Mention It All - The Bravo Surveillance State Ft. Amanda Batula & Ciara Miller

Episode Date: December 15, 2022

As another season of Winter House draws to a close, Dylan is joined in the studio by Amanda and Ciara for a chat about their whirlwind reality TV lives. They dig into the difficulties of being on multiple shows, and Amanda addresses her WWHL-fueled feud with Lindsay. Then, Ciara assesses her and Austen’s dynamic this season, and where to go from here. Later, they chat about this season’s new housemates, and what it’s like being watched 24/7. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With me, Dylan Hafer Hey everyone Welcome back to the mention at all podcast I am Dylan Hafer And today I am joined in the studio By Sierra Miller And Amanda Batula, hello Hi

I'm so happy to have you guys here It is finale day For season two of Winterhouse You've made it We've endeared it all We didn't What's the word? Endured?

Endured. Is that right? Yeah, we've endured it all. We've endured it all. It's time for it to be over. I feel like these last couple of years, you guys have been in a constant state of enduring, either filming or the season's airing or you're doing press or interviews or something. I'm so glad that you like acknowledge that.

Wow, thank you. For our mental health. Yeah, it's been a lot. Yeah. You're either under the stress of filming or under the stress of it airing. Yeah. We're either filming or airing. at least 10 months out of the year with Winterhouse and Summerhouse.

That is wild. It's a lot. Yeah. Has it made, obviously you guys were both doing when Summer House before Winterhouse was a thing. Has it made it kind of harder to just like enjoy the experience or do you feel like it changes it? I think, I mean, when, I think Winter House is a little bit more difficult because Summer House is on the air. Yeah. While we're filming.

So there's a little bit of a crossover of like tension and drama. that you have to try to be like, okay, wait, hold on. We're cool. We have to separate it because coming into this season of Winterhouse, oh my God, we were all on edge. I don't think people realize, like, the first five days, I mean, and there were some, like, fights that didn't make it, thank God. But, like, we were, it was tense because we were, like,

seeing stuff that happened on Winterhouse that we weren't privy to, and then had to come in here. And you really have to separate the two shows. And it's hard because we're friends. but it's also like you said that about me and I know you said that about me and it's a lot.

Yeah, because there's all the interview clips obviously with both of the shows that you guys are on they're filming constantly everywhere in the house. It's not just like, oh, I was speaking to the camera. It's like they're going to catch everything.

All the attitude, the shade. Oh yeah, there's no hide. There's literally nowhere to hide and it's not even like you really want to go outside. Right.

No. To hide either because it's freezing in Vermont. Yeah. You're just stuck in the house. Yeah. And then on top of that, you're going on Watch What Happens Live and getting asked, like, shady questions about everybody else. Yeah. It's constant.

It's a game. It's a hard game to play, but we're still learning. Yeah, we're definitely learning. And when Andy says, truth or drink, just drink. Yeah. Just drink. That's the life lesson here. Just drink.

Just drink. Speaking of Watch What Happens Live, I want to talk Amanda about a little, uh, that you started earlier this season. You may or may not have said that Lindsay was rude to fans sometimes on Watch What Happens Live. And then she responded. Kyle talked about it. She responded more. She's on Katie's podcast.

Like, did you think that that was going to be such a big thing when it came up? No. I would, if I knew it was going to blow up like this, I would have absolutely just never agreed with Andy ever. I just would have kept my mouth shut. To be fair, he did say her name. Yeah, I would have reacted. I just rewatched that clip this morning and I'm like, Andy is such a shitter. Shade.

Yeah, I feel bad that it got her so upset. And truthfully, I thought we were in a place where, like, she wouldn't have thought it was coming from like a malicious place from me or like that I was trying to attack her character. Because that's not my intention at all. I was playing a game. When you're under the pressure also of being on Watch What Happens Live, and it's like you're trying to be funny and entertaining and like witty and just like, you know, try to kind of censor yourself.

It's hard to always say the right thing. Yeah. And I just wish I didn't say anything at all. Yeah. It's tricky because it's not like you're just like sitting on Twitter being like, Lindsay's read to fans. But like you, I mean. Yeah.

Yeah. It was a game. It was part of a game. And I would not have. said anything. I would not have brought her up if I wasn't, you know, it wasn't suggested. Just drink next time. It wasn't an option. It's always an option. I'm just kidding. But yes. Sorry my mouth. I think I did drink. I was taking a sip, trying not to say anything. Yeah. Oh, well. I mean, the pressure, dude. Yeah. It's hard. I feel like we've all been in that

situation. I was in it with Luke at one point. You now Lindsay. Yeah. But again, I thought that we, yeah, her and I, our relationship was in a place where she wouldn't have taken it, like, as an attack. Because I, we talk shit about each other all the time, about my own husband. Like, we're always like, oh, yeah, he's an asshole or like, she's messy or, you know, this one is a shit talker. So I thought it wouldn't have, like, rattled so many feathers. You know when it comes to her that I should have known better. But then when it comes to her, she's the exception to the room.

I should have known better. But anyway. My public apology for the chaos. I would like to go on record. Yes. I'm publicly apologize. We're at the red table. You're going to talk about it.

Here to talk about it. Obviously, a lot has happened since you filmed this season of Winterhouse. You know, lots of stuff happens in the summer. Do you feel like with Lindsay and Carl's dynamic coming into the house in Vermont, does it feel kind of irrelevant now seeing that they are engaged in, like, so serious with each other, like the timeline stuff that was coming up, or does it kind of highlight things that are present in their relationship, you think? That's a interesting question. I don't, I don't know.

I feel like when that was all going down, again, like Summer House was airing and it was all the drama with like Lindsay Austin Sierra. Right. So there was a lot of like stress and tension and like. Even if she would have came in alone without Carl, I don't even. still think I would have cared. Like, I probably would have been the same way. I don't think any of it had to do with, I mean, look, for me personally, we were just not

in a good place. And I was like, if I would have seen her in the street or in the house, I probably would have been like, you know, turn in my head the other way, you know? So I don't even know if I even really think of, you know, them as like a unit. Or if I did at that point in time, it was kind of just like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, the timelines. The timeline was our.

It is irrelevant. No one really cares. But when you talk about it and it's out there and you have to talk about it, you can't pretend it didn't happen because it's going to play out. Right. You know, it's film. Like everything's a topic of conversation. We got to talk about it.

And we, you know, if we're being asked about it, we're going to answer questions about it. And it just, it really doesn't matter because they are very happy and very in love. And I felt that way too with them coming into the house. Kyle and I, like, were really close to them. We had recently gone on a trip with them. but it's just, you know, if people are chirping and you got it,

it's a hard. We're also filming a TV show. So when there's a topic of a conversation, we have to talk about it and bring, like it has to be, not that we're doing anything against our world, but like, okay, if you're coming to my room,

ambient out and telling me this story, honey, you best believe the next morning we're talking about it. I didn't even remember. If someone didn't say something to me, that like, that Austin had like said that,

I blacked out. I like completely forgot that. that he had spilled the beans. Yeah. So me, I wouldn't have said anything if I wasn't reminded. Well, I feel like it almost makes it worse that Austin was telling the story and then was acting like he didn't tell the story or like he told a different version of the story. And it's like, not only were you talking to the same people you're with right now, but it was

filmed. And on the show, there's nothing a Bravo editor loves more than to be like, here's what they said last night. Yeah, to go back and say like, oh, look, you said this. The amount of times they showed that clip too. Yeah. Can we not? That's, yeah, so it's so weird.

I think he forgot to. It was late. I mean, it was late night. I think I'm sitting on the bed, literally wrapping my mic wire around my mic. Because we didn't have our mics on. Like, we were done. So that was late. It was probably like 1 or 2 a.m.

You know. Yeah. Yeah. But like, you know, winter house. It's all a little hazy. You're always on camera. You always. Summer house, winter house.

The surveillance is always on. There's little hidden mics. I actually, I talked to Austin. Craig at the beginning of the season and they were saying that that's for them such a big difference because doing Southern Charm, it's totally not that way where you're, you have just cameras all over the house. Right. They go and film their scenes and they know what they're walking into sometimes.

They know that they can go do it for like an hour, two hours, however many, whatever the allotted time is. And then they go back to home to the comforts of, you know, their home with no cameras. When we're doing it, we've got surveillance. We've got big cameras. Big cameras would go down. So it's like you never really say anything under your breath because. someone's listening. They still pick it up.

There's a control room. Like we, yeah, like we're being watched. Yeah. It even takes a couple weeks after to like not look up when you go into your house and think that there's, and think that there's like a camera in the corner, you know, of a room. Like being watched. Yeah, like when I go to change my clothes, I'm like, oh,

I'm like, who am I turning away from? I'm like, I'm at home. You're like, there's no like producer watching. I'm like going into the bathroom to change. I'm like, I can do that in my room now. I'm safe here. Yeah. I mean, you guys have been doing it.

for such a long time, you must kind of figure out the routines that make it a little more, a little less invasive or a little more like livable. Yeah, closets. Yeah, closets and stuff. A lot of like this summer of me pantries sometimes.

Yeah. Like this summer, I remember I had to tell Paige something I like took my mic off. I was like, I'm like mouthing her to meet me in the closet. And then we hear Amanda coming down the hall or something and she bust open in our door. and sees us hiding in the closet. And she goes, you bitches.

And I was like, I was like, I just had to tell her something really quick. I just needed to be off the record for two seconds. And she's like, and then she would come in. We'd close the door. And then we're like, we're so good at whispering. It's an actual Olympic sport. Yeah, it's not even a whisper anymore. It's like a reading each other's lips.

Yeah. Like a mouthing thing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure the producers are figuring out ways right now. Oh, they try. They try. We can't figure out what you were saying.

we're like, good. Yeah. Or they'll come in and be like, get out of the closet. Yeah. They're like, can you ADR that thing that you didn't say out loud? Right. No. Or we've gotten smarter.

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And do you think your expectations were kind of realistic for the season with him? With Austin. Honestly, yeah. I mean, look, we talked before we went into the house because he called me and he was like contemplating even whether to do winter house or not. And so I was like, obviously we can be cordial and friends and whatnot. And it's obviously not going to be what it was the first round of winter house. And that's great.

And I thought that we could be cordial. I really didn't have any expectations. I just hoped that it wouldn't be another round of what happened, you know, when he came in the summertime. And I just was hoping that he wouldn't be so freaking messy, but he can't really help himself. So, like, I felt like I tried. I really tried. And I, you know, there were so many times where I felt like I had his back. And, like, there were moments where, like, we're telling each other stuff and trying to, like, build a friendship and kind of confide in each other.

But he just, you know, he never missed an opportunity to. to kind of take whatever it was out on me. And I just didn't feel like the way that he was talking to me wasn't even warranted. You know, and it was just weird. And I was, you know, by the end of it, I was like fed up with it. And I was like, you obviously don't give two shits about me. So, you know, goodbye and good riddins. And, you know, whatever.

You live and you learn. I think he gives more than two shits about you. That was the problem. Well, it was like this weird. There's more than, he cares more. than not at all. And that was, I think, the issue. Okay.

Well, then maybe more than he was, like, willing to admit. But it was, it did feel like he wanted to rub this, like, relationship in my face. And, like, and to do it on camera is so just, that's the, that's really, like, it's hard because it's like, yeah, we're filming a show. We are on camera. But there are certain things that you would think that, you know, you would think twice about before doing, especially since we're being recorded. Especially when you have the option and it's not something like in the moment.

Right. Like it's not like you react in the moment. Like if you're thinking about things and processing things and being like, I'm going to invite Olivia. Yeah. Like that you could have thought about more before. A while Summerhouse is airing and I'm seeing everything that, you know, went on between him and Lindsay and that I didn't even see during the summer. So I'm just like it was really hard to separate that. And I just felt like there's like no respect.

Not that. And people are like, he doesn't. anything. He never dated you. He never, I'm like, I don't give a shit if he never dated me or not. If we were ever official, whatever the like, you know, this, I don't need a certificate or anything. Like, just have a little bit like decency because he would have hated if I was hooking up with someone else in the house, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Watching it at least, it's less like, oh, this is how you act around your ex and more just like how you act around somebody that you say you want to have a friendship with that you like should be respecting their emotions and yeah past and past publicly

kind of like disrespected and embarrassed and me and you know I have not done that to you I've passed on almost every opportunity to either talk shit about you or like you know really expose you or something or say what I really wanted to say I've passed on those opportunities but you have like you just don't care. He looks for opportunity. Yeah, it was kind of like you're looking for an opportunity. And so I was more than hurt and annoyed by that. And I just, by the end of it, I was like, okay, whatever.

Now I don't care. Like, I truly don't care. And at this point, I'm saying whatever because I just, I'm over it. And if he wants to act like, you know, he's been so good and that he didn't deserve any of this, that's fine. But I'm done. I also think it's hard just as a viewer to get a handle on whether he actually was ever really in a relationship with Olivia. because watching Southern Charm, it didn't seem like it. On their reunion, it didn't seem like it.

And it's like, okay, so. And even in the house, he wouldn't even call her his girlfriend. He wouldn't call her his girlfriend. Yeah. Or it would sometimes seem like it was absolutely nothing between them and other times. It was like, oh, we're like super serious. Right. I don't think anyone knows.

He wouldn't. I was like, the only reason I can think for you not putting a label on something or really claiming this girl is like so you can keep that door open in case you do do something. because why else not? Not my girlfriend. We weren't dating. We weren't dating.

You were my girlfriend. Like, it's just, I was like, you know what? It's just, it's classic. They grow up eventually. Do they? Do they? Kyle's 40 and he's almost grown up. Almost.

Just takes a little longer. Right. Almost. So just to close the loop on this, how would you respond to us and saying that? until that, what was it, the truth or dare or drink night, that you had been, your dynamic had been a nine or ten out of ten until that point. I think that's like, okay, like unrealistic and inaccurate. Like, I can't believe he gave it a ten out of ten.

Really? The nine felt the nine felt generous. And then he's like, you know what? A tan out of ten. And he said it with like such an accent. He was like, I give it a tan. Yeah, and conviction. I'm like, damn, so when we were really good, I wonder what we were.

Like season one, what were we? If this is, if, okay, season one versus now and this is a 10 out of 10, honey, we ain't got nowhere to go but down because that is just 10 out of 10. Make it make it make sense. Yeah. I would have it like a solid four and a half, you know? Yeah. Like we did have our moments because like we're very much a bantery type of, you know, have a type of relationship for sure. But like, you guys were on the up and up.

And then it just went. Yeah. There were so many. Vermont Mountain. Oh, yeah. But it was bunny hell. Like they didn't go up very high at all. No, no, no, no.

It's just like kind of plateaued. It's hard to keep your expectations high with that one. How do you feel like the new people on this season of Winterhouse sort of fared within the group? Corey, Jess, and Rachel. So well. I mean, I'll say Corey really just, he came right in. I mean, just a better version of Craig. They're crazy, wild, breaking glass and shit.

I think they all fit in and brought. Like, I mean, there's been in the past, not that any, I don't want to say like, duh, that's not the word I'm looking for. But people who have like maybe stayed like more quiet or like aren't as chaotic and crazy as the rest of us are or not as like vocal. And I think, you know, everyone that came to Vermont this year really brought something. Yeah. And like really shined in their own way.

And they were definitely involved. Yeah. And they were definitely always involved, which is kind of intimidating in our group, you know, because we all do know each other sometime. We all know each other and coming into that's intimidating. But no, everyone definitely put themselves in the middle of stuff. Rachel Kelp came out her shell so much by the end of it. Jess.

Jess had some rocky moments. But like overall, I did really feel like I loved Jess by the end of it. Yeah, she was great. She could have went into like a turtle shell and just like called it quick. And it quits, but she just, like, kept coming back. Right. You would think that she would like, she'd be like, okay, I'm not going to talk. But no, she'd just, she'd be like, okay, well, I messed up.

Let's move on. She was still involved. Still, like, such a trooper. And we shared a bathroom. So, like, we were pretty much always, like, having conversation of some sort and talking when she wasn't with the boys and stuff. But, yeah, I think everyone really did a good job of, like, yeah. Integrating themselves into this crazy ass group.

I feel like with Jess, there were definitely some. moments this season where you're kind of like, oh, girl, don't do it. But overall, she gave us a lot to talk about. She stayed engaged the whole time. I feel. And her name is Jess. And listen, I go on like Twitter every once in a while just to see what like the hot topics are.

And the way that people refer to her is like the other Lindsay, crypto Lindsay, Lindsay, like two, like the other whatever, everything that they said, I was just like, this poor girl can't even be her own person. I know. I felt there's a part of me that feels really bad because, like, she was honestly great. And I don't think she deserves the flak that she's gotten on social media and stuff. And that's been something that's been hard for me to even read. I really can't because she's put in an uncomfortable position from the beginning.

So she had a rocky start. She's new. She's new. In a house full of existing friendships and, like, relationships. Right. And she's not this, like, one-dimensional. person that I think that she was kind of, that you kind of see. And it's just, it kind of sucks the image that, you know, she's portrayed as because

honestly she is really sweet girl. Yeah. She's fun. And there's a lot of stuff that she says or does that you know is not intentional. Yeah. And she's like really open and willing to learn. Yeah. One thing that she would say to us all the time in conversation, she would just in the

middle of it be like, you know what, Sierra? I actually do like you. I actually do like you. To all of us. for two weeks straight. And you'd be like, when did you stop? And we had to like tell her that that was offensive. She is so funny.

Now it's like a joke though, because we said it over the summer. Corey looks at us and she was like, did you just say actually? I was like, no, no, no, I'm kidding. After the, after Vermont, she sent me like a TikTok or an Instagram thing about someone saying, like, I actually do. And she laughed about it. She's like, okay, I get it now. But it was cute and it was funny. And now it's a joke, but it's little things like that.

Yeah. There's no malintent behind it. She just like thinks out loud and sometimes you're just kind of like, okay girl, I see what you mean. It could have been shady. But like, not that we're offended. Yeah. She honestly is, she's great. I got dinner with her the other night.

And she's like, I just, she's like, I really do like you guys. I actually do. You don't have to reiterate. I was like, Jess, we know. Yeah. But the actuallys are one of a cameraman had to be like, you know you're using actually in the wrong way. Like, and she was like, oh.

Yeah. Yeah, that's why I think all the mean girl stuff and not feeling included. She was an or the compliment. She kept saying that no one compliments her. I really feel like she was trying to say something else. But that was the only way she could figure out how to like say how she was feeling. And I think she just like didn't feel included was having a hard time like pushing herself to be included the way that Rachel was. And I think that's what it came down to. But it came off as like no one compliments me. They're excluding me. People are mean to me. me and that's, you know, yeah, not what it was in hindsight. Right. It's hard also because you're only there for two weeks, like two and a half weeks. So 17 long days. Just because you're not, just because you don't feel like your best friends with three

specific people in the house doesn't mean that nobody likes you or that you're a total outsider. It's just like, yeah, you're forming different friendships in different ways. So I could see how she might look at Rachel and be like, wow, like Amanda seems closer with her, but it's like, first of all, you already knew her. And also it's just, it's different. Every relationship is different. And like women, women, it's hard for girls.

It's harder for girls and I would say guys. I mean, girls are not that we're like so hard to get along with, but I think any woman coming into the situation, it is intimidating because these relationships are already formed and you want to immerse yourself in the group, but you still don't really know people like that. You don't want to walk an egg show. It's a weird dynamic when I think I feel that way with any any girl group, even around the city, you know. Yeah, and I was in that position, like, in the first, like, or the second season, my first season of the show where there was an existing group of friends.

And I felt very, like, insecure. You wanted to walk that fine line of, like, not being annoyingly, like, inserting yourself and including yourself in, like, these other people's existing friendships. But also not wanting to, like, just not be involved. so much so where you feel like you're being left out or they get the impression that you don't want anything to do with them. And it's like, how do I not be annoying and like still become friends with these people? And some people comes naturally to some people it's more difficult. Yeah.

And I'm sure you guys have had to deal with also sometimes when you meet people after being on a show like this where you're sharing parts of your lives that maybe you meet somebody and they know you from the show, but they don't want to come across as like a fan or like they are like too personal with you. Because there is a thing of like coming in too hot, you know, and that can really kind of ruin the experience. Because yeah, you do, you know us, you know, per the show, but you don't actually know us. You can't come in and act like you already know everything about us and everything because then that just feels really inauthentic. And like these friendships do take time, even though we're only there for two weeks.

It's still a time thing. Like you can come in too hot. Like you got to find the right balance because it is time. I mean, I felt that way my first season coming in. And I had to live with y'all for seven weeks straight. That was great. You loved every second of it. That was crazy.

We were thriving in that. People will say, see, I don't know how you did that. I was like, I don't know either. Seven weeks straight. Yeah, I mean, that season was, that was something else. Yeah. What was it like for you? Because you've done so many seasons of Summer House.

What was that season, the COVID season where you didn't leave the house? I loved it. I loved every second of it. I was like, I don't have to travel back and forth. There's a pool in my backyard. I could just take my laptop outside and work. Like, I can wake up in the morning on my little balcony. I was having the best time.

I was like, do we have to leave? Can we do this every year? Make me live in the Hamptons every summer every year. But, yeah, there is no escape. It would have been nice to be able to drive places and go out to dinner. But I did like staying in the Hamptons all week. But that was a crazy. crazy summer. That was a pressure cooker. That was a pressure cooker. And we always say

winter house is a pressure cooker. Anytime we're living consecutive days, it's a pressure cooker. Because there's no escape. And that was definitely. I mean, I felt at the time, like, of all the shows that had to kind of figure out how to navigate COVID, I think you guys did an amazing job that season. And like, I'm sure like production and all of that, you know, worked their asses off to make that happen. But it was, I mean, it just worked so well for what you guys do. Yeah. It definitely was easier for us, you know, because most everyone was single and you're able just with no responsibilities. So you just throw them in a house together. Yeah.

Someone else is like, we have families. Right. Yeah. No, but it was great. Yeah. We were very fortunate to be able to do that. And, you know, have everyone also give up like their lives completely, not just their weekends for the whole summer to film.

Yeah. Seven weeks, the crew was amazing. It was a tight, tight ship. but it kind of had to be to keep that like quarantine type of style. We were all in it together. We were all in. It was definitely like a group effort the entire summer. Own it all.

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Like, did you feel like you needed to kind of show her the ropes a little bit? Yes and no. I feel like I like to let people go into it blind because I feel like that's how you get the best. Like I don't want to ever persuade someone or tell them too much. Like I want people to have a very authentic experience with it all and be able to be themselves and not be like, oh, well, Amanda said I should have done this or I should do that. But I did. I mean, she's the sweetest, kindest, most hardworking person.

So the fact that I did have an existing relationship really made me, make more of an effort to like make sure I was checking and make sure she was okay, like answer any questions that she had or just like stand up for her or help her out in any way necessary. But, you know, I do, I do like to just let people do their thing and, you know. Yeah, see how you can. I don't, yeah, I don't talk about like preexisting relationships or like what the drama is or the tension or like anything. It's like, you're going into this. You're going to learn about it on your own. Yeah, I was like, you'll figure it out. Figure it out. Right. Like if you want to go do your research and watch the show, that's on.

you, but like I'm not going to give you the sheet. Yeah, because it should be authentic. Like, I don't want it to come off as, you know, it's a reality show. Yeah. Yeah. It's the better for yourself and for the people watching. Yeah. It feels like this has been probably the chillest season for you and Kyle maybe ever.

Like was it, did you feel like you actually got a vacation kind of? Oh my God. Yes. It was wonderful. It was like no stress from wedding planning, which never asked me to plan an event ever again because I hate it. don't like doing it. Kyle was finally able to kind of just like, he was lighter.

Kyle was lighter. So yeah, we were like stress free from not having to do plan anything. Like the business was in a really good place. So we were able to step away from that and just really enjoy ourselves and like have fun without planning anything or thinking about anything or worrying about anything. Like we were just existing in the moment.

Yeah. Day by day. I feel like that's so nice Because obviously you guys are working making the show when you're there But also it's like you're in this great house You're doing all these like cool activities and stuff Like it should be fun Right yeah

Winter should be fun Winter should be chill Yeah I don't like when we're not having fun I know and when Kyle stressed like I get tense and stressed out So I was really able to just enjoy myself And like let go because he was just you know Having fun Like you only had to hide the speakers like maybe

once or twice. Yeah. Yeah. He kept going. Talk about hypocrites. Yeah. If he's sleeping, the noise better be down. But if everyone else is sleeping and he wants to party, everyone else is lame.

I remember one night I was cleaning my room, which no one will probably believe. But it was like three. You're like put that on the record. Yeah, I know, right? It was like two, 30 or something, three. And like Kyle and Amanda were above right above me. And I put on, like I had, I brought my Alexa. I like was like play like slow jams.

I'm like, had, how did it? on so quiet. So quiet. It was quiet. And I'm cleaning the next morning, Kyle goes, what were you doing? I was like, he's like, I heard a little. And I was like, how the fuck did you hear that? He's like, he's the lightest sleeper. And I was like, Kyle, you stay up till four in the morning blasting speakers. And you're concerned about my little Alexa that's on like volume two. I was like, get out of here. Don't talk to me. Yeah. No, he's crazy about it. Someone, there was like a surveillance shot of like all the pillows like lined up really weird and someone's like oh they must have just taken them out off their bed no Kyle was like blocking the light and the

noise from like under the door so that like he could have a good night's sleep like he's crazy that way he's never happy with any room just so we can go on the record he's never happy with any room that no it's not us it's him it's him 100% I've said that so many times we don't need the primary we need a dungeon yeah like yeah you need a dungeon somewhere dark soundproof. But it's in the basement. A good mattress. Lord forbid you give that man a bad mattress.

I don't even have to sleep with him. I know his sleeping habits. Kyle's the biggest diva. Yeah. What does it feel like watching how people on social media will pull out those surveillance shots of the bedrooms? Like you, with your messy room sometimes or like

page will like disappear inside the bed. It is so funny how people pick up on those things. And I feel like it's what makes your show's unique. It's like those little moments are so great. Yeah, I can't live down a messy room. I'm just like, okay, kill me. Kill me.

Yeah. But those are some of the best shots, though, in the best moments because you're really just being yourself, like, there's, like, big cameras up everywhere else. Yeah. Scenes are being filmed and you think you're, like, alone in your room, like, getting ready or doing something. And, like, that's their favorite footage to use when you're just unaware. And it's always the footage where we're rushed.

So, like, my room a lot of times, we're being rushed. They're like, okay, well, we have to leave in 25 minutes. And I'm like, I just rolled out of bed. I'm looking like, who did it to me and why? And they're like, be ready in 25 minutes to go to the mountain. And I'm like, okay, well, I got to eat. I got to figure out what I'm going to wear. Got to figure out what other people are wearing.

What are we doing? What's the activity? What are we going to be home? What's the temperature? Yeah, what's the temperature? We're working on such limited time because they love to keep everything a secret until like the morning of, which is so annoying. Just makes it more entertaining and fun for all of us.

You're like, great. Okay, I'm going ice fishing. No, literally. Yeah. I'm going on a. the, what was it the skating competition? I had no idea we were doing that morning. And I was like, wait, what?

I was like, what am I going to wear for this? Yeah. I think this is the first year ever I was able to actually get out of every single activity that I didn't want to do. Like the ski biking and the ice fishing and the like any, all the outdoors, these stuff. I was like, yeah, no, I'm going to stay in. They're like, Amanda, you want to stay in and drink today? I'm like, yeah.

So I'll be doing the winery. on the bowling night. Yeah. I was just like, I'd rather not leave. You want reality? Get me a TV. I mean, truly, when it's five degrees outside, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine.

I feel like on Summer House before we've actually seen you watching Housewives. Oh, for sure. I just like, listen, I need like to be stimulated why I'm doing things. So I'm almost more productive when there's the TV on and I'm not paying attention to it. Yeah. I get that. I think that's real. Yeah.

So like it's always. Bravo. Any Netflix? Like everything is just always on in the background at my house. And being in the bed. It's real. I think people are like, get out of the bed. I'm like, but I'm also doing this at home too.

I'm not portraying myself to be. Not that I'm lazy because I do get shit done. But you know what else is real? The bed is comfortable. You get stuff done in the bed. I'm productive. You know what else is real? Gossiping with your friends.

In the bed. Gossiping with. Tell me. me one person that doesn't go somewhere or do something and then go home that night or like get alone with their friends and just like gossip right yeah like sorry we we catch so now I guess we're venting now because I'm just saying it's real yeah people are like all they do is sit in the bed and they just gossip and I'm like well what do you do with your friends yeah like you're like a house we're also filming a TV show we got to talk about stuff like hello I know it's everyone

does it. Everyone poops. Everyone talks shit. Let's be honest. Are you going to watch Kyle's new peacock show? Are you excited? I'm so excited. I am so excited to watch the traitors. I had to tell him, like ask him, actually beg him

not to spoil anything for me or tell me anything that's going on. Of course I know more than I want to know, but I think it's going to be so good. I'm actually really excited. I'm excited to see him on a game show. I'm excited to see him. He went Scotland for it, right? For two weeks. It was the best two weeks of my life. I was like, get out of my house. Get out of my hair. Leave me at home with my dogs. Like, I was thriving.

I'm excited to see him live with other people. That's not us. I wonder how they... Yeah. Yeah, it's not as much of a living thing. It's definitely a competition show, but I think it's going to be really good. I'm really, really, really excited. So we're not going to see like Kyle and Reza in bed talking shit. No. Okay. I know. I love Reza. I wasn't... I was the best. Yeah, I don't know what I can share and what I can. I wasn't given any lowdowns on it. I don't want to get you in trouble. Well, even just about like the way that it worked.

Yes. Ooh. I think all like all the episodes are coming out at the same time. So you can like binge it. Yeah. Oh, sweet. Okay. It's going to be a bingeable show.

Okay. Well, we'll all, should we come over? Yeah. Well, we love all the crossovers. Obviously it was fun seeing like Tom and Tom on this. Oh, yeah. It was them coming to the house for two days was like the perfect little like light. Yeah.

Fun distraction. Oh, we needed it. They needed it. They added such a different vibe to the house. So we were like, okay, this is good. This is refreshing. It's fresh. It's new.

So much so that we were waking up every morning being like, oh, this house is disgusting. And then they come in. They're like, oh, what did we miss? What did we miss? This is insane. Yeah. Is there anyone else that you feel like from the Bravo universe should stop by the winter house in the future? I, so I feel like no one wants to come.

We really keep it messy. Look here, we're not going on another trip without a cleaning squad. And I'll go on record and say that. I'll pay for it. I'll pay for it. It's okay. I'll chip in. We're just there too much. We need to get us all out of the house

and we're to have people come in. Right. Yeah. I think, you know what? I would petition for Vanita to come to winter house. Oh yeah. She was on your Instagram story like yesterday. Oh my gosh.

She's staying with me right now. Laying in bed together. Yeah, laying in bed. Doing what real people. I do. I do imagine what we're talking about. Doing a friends do. I love Vinita.

She's going to become one of my closest friends. And like she comes to the city and will stay with me. And she's the best. housemate ever. Not that you guys aren't, but like she cooks for me. We don't do that. It's a treat. Vanita's great.

Amanda, anyone else that would come to the house? In the whole bravovers? I would also say maybe like Raquel. I'll take anyone. Okay. In terms of guys, I'm open. Anyone that wants to like keep Kyle busy and occupied is good by me. Like anyone wants to babysit my house.

He needs someone to play with. Yeah. That's exactly what he means. I do. I'll say I do love Brandy. I think that she brings so much. I would love to help her. Just like fine and chaos and she loves to drink.

Yeah. So I think there's like a lot of entertainment there. And Kyle and her now know each other from. Oh yeah. And traders. So she was, I loved watching her on Ultimate Girls trip. Yeah.

So fun. She's so fun. And that was kind of like Berkshire's Winterhouse. Yeah. Like like adjacent vibes. Yeah. Yeah. I love it.

Well, this season has been so fun. Congratulations, guys. And we're all buckled up for whatever is coming down the pipeline next. We are too. Yeah, we are too. Can we have to find out what that is? You're like, I don't remember what happened, but I'm sure it was fun. Yeah, Summer House, Season 7.

Here we go. I know. Amazing. Well, thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you. Thank you for having us. And thank you, everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show wherever you listen.

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