Mention It All - The Last Pump? (Vanderpump Reunion)

Episode Date: June 18, 2020

Dylan and Bari are back to discuss the RHOA casting news. Eva is leaving, but who else might be losing their peach? Then, it’s all Vanderpump Rules. They discuss some major IRL updates with the cast..., and wonder whether this is the last episode ever. Then they recap part 3 of the reunion, where Jax got called out my Andy, Ariana, and pretty much everyone. Finally, they name their season 8 MVPs, and share some last thoughts about the season. Siesta Key: Siesta Key returns to heat up the summer with new episodes premiering on MTV Tuesday, June 16th at 8p ET/PT. Catch up on the latest season now on MTV.com, the MTV app or On Demand. Home Chef: Home Chef is the #1 customer rated meal kit company. Go to HomeChef.com/mention for $30 off! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 With Dylan Hafer Who gonna check me boo? And Barry Rosenfeld I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey guys Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hayfer
Starting point is 00:00:50 And I'm Barry Rosenfeld And we are back We have the final part of the Vanderprop Rules reunion to get to today Um, that is certainly gonna be fun to talk about. But before that, how's it going? What's up?
Starting point is 00:01:07 What's your- Good. I mean, I took a vacation day yesterday, which was- You did? Yeah, did you not notice I was at the beach yesterday? Oh, did I? Yeah, and so I literally haven't taken a day off since February, which I'm not complaining about, but you really don't
Starting point is 00:01:30 realize how much you needed a day until you take a day. Like I complete and I'm always on my phone like regardless from off or not I'm always on my phone and I like disconnected yesterday. I didn't talk to a soul. I was on the beach at 8.30 in the morning and I was like, you know what? I know I'm just going to go back to work tomorrow. Like it's fine. But I like you you need that. Like everybody I'm I'm telling you you need that mental day. Well it's weird because we've been in this you know, social distancing, stay at home scenario now for over three months. Right. And it feels weird.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I feel like we're not as like workers or whatever. We're not conditioned to take vacation days when there's not like a real true quote unquote reason to. And so I, yeah, I took a day off last month, like around Memorial Day. I took like an extra day off and it was so nice just to have one day where I was like, oh wait like I don't have to wake up and you know check my email right whatever it's and especially like this has been a stressful few months so yeah yeah so that was nice that the housewives take time off and so should yeah like you're excuse me you're giving us you're taking time off and not giving us
Starting point is 00:02:48 that much notice so you know what i'm going to take a day off as well it's funny so right now Beverly Hills is taking three or four weeks off and New York is off for two weeks. And they've said that basically the reason for that is with coronavirus stuff that editing is slowed down and they need to do more of the confessional interviews like they got behind with those. And so they're just taking this time to catch up, I guess. But I saw some people trying to make like conspiracy theory that there was like racist stuff in the episodes coming up and they had to they have to take a break to edit it out because everything's going on right now and I'm like, okay. Want to know why that's not true? Want to know how I know that's not
Starting point is 00:03:32 true? Even though like it's not true anyway. So obviously we talked about Siesta Key last week. I'm a huge Siesta Key fan on MTV and they premiered it the other day and they cut Alex, who was one of the main characters, completely out of the show. And they did it like that day or the day before. and they did it that episode and they did it the rest of the season because of things that he has said in the past. But so they can easily do that for the housewives too if that's the case, which is that's why it's not.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Like I don't, I don't, the housewives haven't said anything. So, no, yes, there's a lot of crazy shit, but I don't think that's why we're taking a little break from housewives. I personally think it's to spread out the episodes also because of we don't know like the schedule and what's going on. That's my conspiracy theory. So speaking of Real Housewives, we have some casting news for Real Housewives of Atlanta. So apparently their contract pick up letters for season 13 went out this week, which is always an interesting time, lots of rumors, whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Eva straight up announced that she's not coming back next season. It's unclear. I mean, we won't know for sure whether she was asked back or not. but either way, she says she's leaving. Oh, you're saying we won't know whether or not it was voluntary or, or. Right. I mean, unless there's some huge controversy, most housewives are given the chance to be like,
Starting point is 00:05:01 yeah, I'm leaving even if they maybe weren't asked back. But I, what are your thoughts on Eva not going back for next season? I was just going to ask you that. I mean, I think that Atlanta also needs like a little bit of a, shift in a recast. Like I kind of I've said this before like I kind of want to see some new people. I like Eva but we've said this in the past too.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It kind of felt like she was like getting a little boring. You know, her storyline was getting a little dragged on and I'm okay with it. I don't have anything against her but I'm okay with like if that's the case of her not I pretty much on the same page. I like Eva.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I think Eva has had Eva's had some really good moments on the show but overall I don't think it's It's a huge loss. And I think hopefully they'll be able to find somebody that's a little more exciting, maybe. Yeah, but. But then the other big rumor, which has not been confirmed, but there is lots of speculation going around, is that Miss Linne Thea Leaks will not be back next season. Which I would be upset about.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I, you know, I know how you feel. Yeah. The thing is, I have loved. I still have, you know, positive feelings toward her sometimes, but I'm not sure if she needs to be on the show anymore. And I can tell you for sure that they pay her a lot of money and I don't know if she's necessarily worth it anymore in terms of looking at the cast as a whole and what direction the show should go. I don't know. In that case, I kind of look at Nini as like the, this might other ones don't get mad at me. But I feel like Nini, I look at her as like the anchor of
Starting point is 00:06:51 the show. Like, it's just Nini. Like, I don't know. I just can't. That's how I feel about it. Her and Cynthia and now, Portia. So kind of all three of them. Those are my new, like, Tracea. For me at this point, I think that, I mean, Nini is obviously iconic and, you know, a legendary housewife, whatever. But in terms of the show at this point, I feel like it's like Porsche and Kenya is a star at this point on the show. And it makes sense to me... A star is born. It makes sense to me after the end of this season
Starting point is 00:07:28 that they would either get rid of Kenya or Nini. And I feel like Kenya seems like she has more kind of left in the tank in terms of bringing it on Housewives. Right. Whereas Nina feels... I know what you're saying. Nini's a little... She's a little played out to me.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Like she's had her drama and she seems kind of over it. whereas Kenya is, Kenya is going to show up and come to play every single time. And I don't think anybody has doubts about that. Right. Whether you like her or not. Someone just DM me and said, you guys are doing a great job on the podcast. Oh my God. I was like, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:08:05 No, because I gave her advice on what to watch next. People come to me for advice, for what show, not life advice. What shows do I watch? Which I can do that. That's my favorite kind of DM. when somebody's, it's like a, it's like a puzzle. I feel like a therapist. When somebody's like, okay, so I've seen, I've seen New Jersey Potomac and Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:08:25 What should I watch next? It's like, you have to, you have to think about what has you seen? What are you missing? Yes. The right questions, ask the right questions. And kind of have them speak to you. But it's, this is actually funny because like I told you, I started Southern Charm. It's actually literally on pause on my TV right now.
Starting point is 00:08:43 last week and I'm hooked on it. I'm literally on season six. Like I've watched the whole thing. Oh, throughout this week. Oh, no. I, yeah, I don't fuck around when I binge.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And this, this girl that DM me about it said, I started Southern Charm, but I don't know what you feel about it. And I said, girl, I said the same thing, but give it another go because I'm upset.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I like love this. Because I feel like it's because I'm so not Southern as you can hear that like it's so different for me, this lifestyle that they live. So I'm like, a little intrigued. Southern Charm is like such a saga and such a journey. And there are parts I like more than others. But it is, it's a ride worth taking, I would say.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah. I don't know going forward what will happen. But what is happening with all these shows? I'm like, guys, hello. It's really scary. Especially now, it was one thing in like March or April when everything was shut down. But now that things are starting to open back up, it's like, Who's filming?
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Starting point is 00:10:36 which is exciting. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, come on. Anyone who's pregnant that is exciting news for them. Like, I'm happy for them. That's very great. However, the timing couldn't be more ironic. Yeah, it's interesting because on, I think it was on Friday, there was a report that Stasi and Kristen had hired a crisis PR team after getting fired
Starting point is 00:11:02 from Vanderpump rules. And then within the next day or two, we had the Us Weekly exclusive that they are expecting a baby, which is truly a miracle of timing. And then later it came out that Stasi is apparently. do in January 2021, which would mean that this is a little early to make a pregnancy announcement, but you do what you have to do. I wish you heard the best, of course, in terms of, you know, health and family and everything. But in interesting news, Jack Taylor is still coming under a lot of fire in terms of whether
Starting point is 00:11:39 he's going to be cut from the show or what's going to happen with all of that. And this week... But we can't see it on his Instagram because we're blocked. So, well, so this week, Lance Bass, who of course
Starting point is 00:11:52 officiated Jackson Brittany's wedding, talked publicly about how he thinks Jacks should and will be fired
Starting point is 00:11:59 and that Jacks is no longer partnering with him on their just ad ex drink line, which it's super
Starting point is 00:12:07 funny to me that it's a drink that's named after Jacks and he's no longer involved in it. This story
Starting point is 00:12:14 was a little confusing to me, but I didn't know if it was because I didn't care that much or because like I can never tell like what's going on with jacks in general but moving on now kidding yeah so I mean basically so this season of vanderpump is over now after this week but I feel like there are still a lot of questions left in terms of what bravo is going to do I mean
Starting point is 00:12:38 Sarah who we work with wrote a great article about why she feels van der pamp rules should just be canceled, which I have mixed feelings about. I totally think there are a lot of things that need to be addressed, but at the same time, there's also a part of me that's like, don't cancel it. Don't take it away. Right. I feel like them, I agree, but this also is a good time and opportunity for them to really rethink what they could do with the show as opposed to canceling it, which I think could be a good idea. And then if that fails, then I think it's time to go. But the show has been on for so long. I mean, they could really think about what the right thing to do is and what direction to go in.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Right. And I think it's a, for me, it's a thing where I don't necessarily think that the whole idea of the show needs to be scrapped. But I do think that they can't just fire four people and then be like, okay, here's the same show, but just because four people gone. That they should use this. I mean, I think a couple more people should be fired first. but then on top of that, they should use this as an opportunity to kind of think critically about how to reshape the show to make it. Right. Not just so not just to get rid of problematic people or whatever, but to actually improve the show.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Because I think it was already in need of some improvement before we were talking about, you know, racism and problematic people. Right. So this last night, last night, two nights ago, I don't know again, what day it is. but I did watch it this morning again. The part three of Vanderpump Reunion, which I do have to say, of all of the virtual zooms, virtual zooms, virtual reunions that we've seen, this third part wasn't the worst.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I don't think it felt dragged to me. I think it was okay. Not that much happened to like discuss, because I feel like when things are, in three parts, they kind of put the, they try to separate the information into three, but like they really just put the most juicy stuff in the beginning and then whatever lingers is at the end,
Starting point is 00:14:54 which is what we saw this week. I, okay, so I agree with you. You know, we basically got through all of the Witches of WeHo stuff last week. So that wasn't really a thing. Honestly, this whole episode, they, I mean, they talked about some other stuff, but it really felt like kind of a,
Starting point is 00:15:13 Jack's reckoning. Like they were, they were talking about... What else is new? So they showed this incredible montage of every single Vanderpump reunion, Jacks Taylor, making some kind of promise about how he's working on himself and he's a terrible person and he's changing and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Every single reunion they had him saying it. And I was like, that was fabulous. And it's the kind of thing where I feel like the people that are on the show with him, can't decide whether it's, can't decide whether to laugh at that or to be kind of disgusted. Because obviously it's, I mean, they've known him
Starting point is 00:15:54 for a long time, they care about him, they want the best for him. But at this point, it's like, you can't watch that clip package and think that he's serious about- Also, yeah, also like your, like, enough, like at your 40, how much more are you gonna change, you know? And it's funny because again, still,
Starting point is 00:16:12 he just sat next to Brittany and repeated everything she said. Like he cannot like think for himself. It's like unbelievable. Well, and I thought it was, I was happy they brought up what he had said at the end of the season about having mental health issues. He was talking about his brain being sprained. He said mental problems, which I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Mental problems. And so they brought up the fact that he should be in therapy if he feels that he has these issues. And Lala said that Randall, both arranged a really great therapist for him. And not only that, but paid for the session. And Jacks just never showed up, which is, that's pretty awful. Because, you know, Lala and Randall, I feel like, have been very supportive of
Starting point is 00:17:02 Jackie Brittany. And so to pull that kind of crap is just like, it's pretty. And you know what? Sometimes I don't know. I truly don't know whether or not I should feel. bad for Brittany or not because do I feel bad in the sense that you have to go through this? Yes. Do I feel bad that you actually chose to marry this person after knowing all this?
Starting point is 00:17:26 And now you really are like facing the wrath of it. It's like, I don't know because there she, she does defend him at times. And other times she's like, you can tell she's like embarrassed or doesn't defend him. And it's like, pick, pick a lane. Like I don't, I don't know where this. is headed. Well, and Stasi brought up the point, which I thought was really interesting that the other people in the group get kind of scared to hold Jacks accountable because they're made to feel like they're hurting Brittany and they're scared. They're scared to hurt Britney because, you know, she takes
Starting point is 00:18:02 things so personally with Jacks and whatnot. And I think that's super valid. And we've seen that in the cast where people who should know better and should be calling Jacks on their shit don't really want to because it's like oh we don't want to make brittany sad and mess things up and you know when you have known somebody for such a long time and they're a grown everyone here is a grown adult can handle should be able to handle you know these situations that you shouldn't make someone feel guilty for holding them accountable and i thought that was an interesting point and i mean with stasi leaving the show and potentially jackson brittany will see we might not not really get to see more of that play out in future seasons, but I was glad that it got brought up
Starting point is 00:18:48 this time. Yeah, and it's funny because Ariana kind of went hard at Jacks. Like, she didn't give a fuck this episode. Like, she was like, I'm over your shit. And just like went after it, but then at the end, kind of like felt bad for Brittany and like said it. She was, she was, she doesn't like to see Britney upset. So it's just a very hard thing to watch. I'm like, oh, when are they going to make the announcement. I also, I thought it was a really, I loved the moment when Jacks, they were like coming back from a break and Jack said to Andy, oh, I feel like you always are gunning for me or calling me out or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And Andy is like, Jacks, that's my job to call people out. And you need to start watching the show because Jacks basically doesn't watch the episodes. And then because he doesn't watch. it, he feels like he has... Doesn't see how it's portrayed, too. He has this excuse to say, oh, I don't remember saying that, oh, I don't think that's how that happened, whatever. When everybody else has watched it back.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And so he's basically gaslighting people being like, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how that happened. And it's like, Jacks, we all saw the episode. You're the only one who didn't watch it. So you can't say that it didn't happen when every single other person saw it. It's almost like you and I, Dylan, recapping an episode. episode for the listeners and us have not really watched it, but we just saw like clips like and read articles about it, but the listeners watched it. So they're like, what kind of recap are you
Starting point is 00:20:23 going to be like, that's a perfect analogy. But it's also, I thought you were going to say something else that Andy said to him when he said, Jax, I do like you. And Jack's like, will you have a funny way of showing it? Jacks, have you not realized that everyone does have a funny way of showing how they like you because they can't trust you? Right. Every, that's the, that's the, that's the thing. Everyone who, even the people on, like, we've seen Stasi come to Jax's defense, you know, many times. And she, but she will still be the first one to call him out when it comes to certain things. And it's obvious that these people that, you know, care about him and have supported him, even those people have to have these mixed feelings and these complicated, you know, dynamics with him because
Starting point is 00:21:07 so much of the time he's just wrong. And I don't know, having a friend like that is, is really exhausting because you just feel like you can't it's almost like you're being held hostage like you can't say anything or call them out on anything because then it just turns into this attack even if it's meant you know in a good way also like let's stop talking about jacks right now because he's not listening to this but i also want to mention that we are still talking about sheena and brett's music video and they replayed it again and I was like, this is very sexual. Like, it was, it was very sexual. And I don't know where I stand because Sheena keeps saying she was joking. She was joking. She was joking. And I get that too. But it's like, I don't know. Because if you want to
Starting point is 00:22:07 joke up with her, like, would they have? I don't know. I believe that Sheena, I don't think Sheena meant anything serious behind it, but that also doesn't mean that there was no way she, you know, like she, I think it was a joke, but also it's like, yeah, she probably would have hooked up with Brett. Right. And I need my ass to do what her ass did in the music video. Like, I need my ass to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I appreciated that Brett kind of corrected himself and said, I, and he basically said that he, he said, previously that he felt violated by Sheena and that that was not really accurate and that he should have just said he felt uncomfortable because the thing is he knew what he was getting into he was fully consenting to do the music video it was just uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:22:58 and of course it was uncomfortable she was like biting his arm and so I appreciate that they were riding each other I was like it was weird like there was seen where they were like having doing the deed but not really
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah, I don't know. We also saw Sheena's new man, Brock, at the very end of the episode. He's so cute. I forgot that he's from New Zealand. Me too. When he started talking, I was like, oh. He's a little short for me. He's a little short for, like, me personally.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But they're cute. I really appreciated when all of the significant others who weren't on the show came on, like Randall and Brock and who else came on. Ken. Ken Todd, duh. I was like, who am I missing? I thought that was really sweet. Randall's the best.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, I mean, I don't know if he's the best, but he's cute. And I like how him and James are like friends. It's really sweet. Mary, fuck, kill, Brock, Ken, and Randall. Okay, I would kill Randall. Oh, wait, Mary, fuck kill. I would fuck Brock, marry, Ken, kill Randall. Like, that was the easiest game.
Starting point is 00:24:15 What would you do? Okay. I would also fuck Brock, but I think I would marry Randall and kill Ken. Okay. Yeah, like that was, yeah, but yeah, that was fun. What a perfect, what a perfect video. Let's do marry fuck kill with the witches of WeHo. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Ugh. This is fun. I think I would marry Katie. Mary Katie, fuck Kristen Killsossey. I don't know. It's weird now and they're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Think about it and come back to us. Let me know what you think about my personal life choices. Oh my gosh. But yeah, it feels, it feels weird that this season is fully over. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Because, okay, I really think because we spent so much time on Brittany and Jacks's wedding that it felt like this season was both super long but also like the actual other stuff that happened felt really short. Yeah, it's funny because years ago, I'd be like, oh my God, oh my God, Vandercombe rules is coming
Starting point is 00:25:25 back like in next month. Like it would be so exciting. And now it's like, oh, God, what are they going to do? I don't know. I know. It's almost, I think it's a good thing that they have had this coronavirus delay and that they'll actually have some time to really, you know, reorganize their shit for. for next season, assuming there's a next season, because I think they have some work to do
Starting point is 00:25:51 and some tough choices to make, but I hope they, you know, are serious about fixing this show. Right. Anything else we missed from the reunion? Oh, I did. There was one moment. So Dana was talking about her mom who passed away several years ago. She was getting really emotional. I was glad they let her kind of talk about that and the psychic situation. But, oh my God, I was laughing out loud because she said that she was 22 when her mom passed away. And James turns to Raquel and whispers, she's 22. And Raquel's like, no, she was 22. I know. I was like, oh, my God. I love that the editors put that in so much because it was one of those moments
Starting point is 00:26:42 where it was such a small little moment but I was just like oh my God and it was innocent but I was like wait this is such a sentimental moment like why are they doing that? Then I was like oh god they had like it was great but um the way James said it was so funny because
Starting point is 00:26:58 it was like she's 22 like I'm interested or she's 22 because she doesn't look 22 I was like I know MTV Ciesta Key returns to heat up the summer with new episodes premiering Tuesday, June 16th at 8 p.m. Eastern Time, Pacific Time.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Binge the latest season now on MTV.com, the MTV app, and on demand before the season premiere this June. This season, the crew believes that keeping secrets and telling lies will maintain peace. However, they quickly discovered that whoever said the truth will set you free has never been to Cesta Key. And when the truth comes out, nothing will ever be the same. It's been a few months since we saw the Cesta Key crew
Starting point is 00:27:40 Barry, catch us up to speed. Okay. So, you know, the king and queen, Juliet and Alex, have been on and off. I think for about two years. Well, Juliet has now been dating Robbie, who we know from The Bachelor. Alex has been dating Alyssa, where we find out they are actually pregnant. And it really affects Juliet and Alex's relationship. So many other things are going on. Julia and Alex hook up in Nashville when they go away for the weekend. These two have always had ties. I think when a baby is involved, now relationships are starting to end because Alex and Alyssa are moving on. And it's so much juicy drama. I love it. Well, it's going to be interesting because with Robbie out of the picture,
Starting point is 00:28:26 Juliet has a new relationship with Sam, who is the attractive. And Alex still has not told Alyssa about his little moment with Juliet. So I have a feeling that's going to come. to the surface, but that is not even the only drama situation that we have to deal with. We have Chloe, who is now not in a great place with Alex because she's been up in his business. And that's a whole thing. Kelsey and Garrett might be getting back together. Trying and trying to work on their relationship, as always. And Madison and Ish. Madison and Ish, that is a whole, I mean, does long distance ever really work?
Starting point is 00:29:08 work? I don't know. That is long distance. Plus there's an age gap. We love Madison. She's a great girl. I would be very interested to know where this relationship goes. I am not in one myself, so I'm very envious of watching other people's
Starting point is 00:29:24 unfold on reality television. So, yeah, I mean, this season, it's safe to say there is going to be much relationship drama, but we also have some career moves happening. Juliet has an extensive. exciting new opportunity with one of the biggest fashion entrepreneurs in Siesta Key, but more interesting than that, Brandon, his rap career has kind of come to a screeching hall. And we are going to see
Starting point is 00:29:51 him maybe a pivoting a little bit to a more traditional career path. And that sounds like it is going to be a site to see. So this season is going to be a very exciting one. And for more Siesta Key, make sure to follow them on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok, and join the conversation using hashtag C-S to Key. We obviously, leaving this season in the rearview mirror, we have to pick our number one from the whole season. It's not even just from this episode. I know, but really quick because Charlie is reminding me of Charlie on the episode,
Starting point is 00:30:25 which was not my bravo-leb. But in Southern Charm, Catherine was talking about eating at Olive Garden in an episode. what I just watched. And I was like, girl, oh my God. But we, okay, so, Bravo Leve for the whole season. Okay, I know mine. Go ahead. Raquel. Oh, Raquel. Raquel is my Bravo Lebb of this Vanderpump Rule season. I've said it once. I've said it a million times. She has come a long way and she has really become a character, like her own character.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And I hate saying that word, actually, because, like, they're real people. Like a figure on the show. Yes, yes. And she, the way they portrayed her in the past really wasn't helping her. And she proved herself and the way she came through her relationship with James, the way she stood up to the other girls, the way she even, like, cracked some jokes, the way now she has a job. Like she's an all around is not involved in drama.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I just appreciate her. This is my appreciation, Raquel, post. Okay. I am going to give Raquel my most improved award, but my season, which I'm making up right now in honor of Raquel, my MVP for the season has to be the one and only Sheena Shea. I think whether or not you like Sheena,
Starting point is 00:31:57 I think it's fine to feel any type of way about her, but she really put in the work this season in a way that a lot of other people didn't and she's one of those people who she knows how to be good at, she's great at reality TV and you can tell she's the kind of person that will do whatever the producers need her to do. She's got the team on her back.
Starting point is 00:32:21 She's totally shameless and she seems so happy with Brock now and it's just nice to see because she's really been dragged through the mud over the years on this show. Oh, for sure. I kind of think they're similar in the sense where they were both Raquel and Sheena, even though she knows a bigger person on the show,
Starting point is 00:32:41 where this season they were both like how to defend themselves. Right. And she got through it. Sheena and Raquel have both been the butt of the joke. I think maybe more than they deserve to be. But, you know, there's... Well, jokes on everyone else now.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah. they are also spent this weekend together partying in with San Diego and it looked great. So basically we want to be friends with you guys. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, just slide in. Don't forget to, thanks for listening, everyone, and don't forget to rate review and subscribe. And don't forget to please donate to our good influence fund for racial justice at betches.com slash donate. Yeah, thanks for listening, guys.
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