Mention It All - The Melissa/Teresa Endgame Is In Sight Ft. Jordana Abraham (RHONJ)

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

Dylan and Jordana are back to recapping RHONJ, and they have lots to discuss as the ladies head to Ireland and fight about all the same things they do at home. Rachel and Danielle’s feud heats up, Jennifer and Margaret still hate each other, and things continue to spiral for Teresa and Melissa. Later, they make some predictions about what will happen after this season. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I'm so excited to be joined in the studio today by Jordana Abraham. Hey, Jordana. Hey, Dylan. So exciting to be here in person with you. We usually do these virtually. In person, I'm back from a couple weeks off. We haven't talked about Jersey.

in way too long. I know. It's been weeks. Well, I did talk about Jersey on Monday with Rachel Fuda, who was in studio. So if you haven't heard that episode, I had a great time chatting with her. She is reunion ready. She has a lot to say. So go check out that episode if you haven't heard it yet.

But Jordana, we haven't talked to our jersey in three weeks. How are we feeling? We're in Ireland. It's definitely heating up. It's heating up. When I was catching up on, so I was on vacation for like 10 days. I didn't watch a single Bravo, a moment of Bravo. So I came back.

I had a to-do list. I was like two episodes of this, two episodes of that. Jersey was a pleasure to catch up on. It was great. I feel like it's really like it's locking into place. Like Melissa and Teresa are still at odds, but not kind of like the only thing happening. Right. There's a few people at odds, but it also feels like they're able to have some fun.

Right. And like the Danielle and Rachel sort of feud is kind of starting to pick up steam. That is exciting to me. Yeah. I'm, I'm liking kind of where this is going. I don't, I think, you know, the end of the season might be kind of a downer, but. Yeah, I like it. I kind of, because it's, it doesn't feel like it's like, so obvious what's going to happen.

Yeah. You know, I mean, you know what's going to happen, but it kind of feels like, it doesn't feel so dramatic yet that you don't believe that these people would be, like, able to be on a vacation together. Right. I did like on this episode when Melissa has that moment where she calls Joe and she's like, for the first time, I'm starting to have an inkling that maybe we shouldn't go to the wedding. And I'm like, bu, boo, boo, boo.

Right. Laying the groundwork there. We're really foreshadowing it because we know there's going to be some big explosion that happens at the very end of the season. But it's like, okay, yeah, like pepper that into the conversation. I mean, I feel like now we kind of, I have a sense for what. what the big thing is. Yeah. And to me, it seems like this rumor.

Yeah. Right? I, it was in one of the last couple episodes where we really get to the crux of what ex-best friend Laura said for the first time. Who is this? Laura, can you get a confessional? Well, according to Rachel and Melissa, Laura has auditioned for the show more than once. That makes sense to me.

I mean, like, I could see her, I could see her eventually maybe getting on it. There's a lot of piranhas circling in the. the North Jersey waters. Yeah. But we really got to the crux of the information that Laura brought, which was in part that somebody opened a car door and saw Melissa make it out with another guy. It was so funny that Jen Aden was like, you know, I would never want to reveal the secret because someone revealed something about me and it really messed everything up for me.

But like, here is the secret. Yeah, she's like, she's like, okay, Danielle, come a little closer. Come a little closer. Is my mic working? Okay. Let me tell you real quiet. No, I would never do this, but I'm about, but I'm going about to do it. It is. It's kind of beautiful in a way. And then, you know, Danielle kind of picks that, picks up that stick and carries it to Ireland. And she's like, well, now I don't want to say anything. Because my friend Melissa would be really hurt by it. And it's like, what? No. You're talking about it on camera right now. It was so not hard for her to get that secret out of Jen, that it was almost like a joke that she was. pretending like she wasn't even going to say it.

Right. And I mean, I thank Jen for her service of being messy as hell. But it's like Jennifer Aiden, like the last few weeks, she's had some moments where it's like she acts like she is really caring about someone or when she's like, Melissa, is it okay with you that me and Dolores are bridesmaids? It's like Jennifer. And that was funny to watch like Melissa react to that on Watch What Happens Live too, where she's like, of course she was. like she is obsessed with Teresa. Yeah. Which felt very true.

I mean, it is, it's interesting to kind of take a step back and look at the cast and be like, Danielle is actually playing a really important role this season because without her, Teresa and Jennifer are kind of on their own. I mean, Dolores, of course, is on good terms with them and his friends with them. But like, she's not involved. Dolores is not a soldier for anyone. And so to kind of have Danielle starting to pick up the slack a little bit and hold her against, you know, team Melissa and Marge, it makes a difference in the overall cast picture.

Right. Well, now it feels like an actual team instead of sort of just two, I mean, crazy people, not to give my opinion to, too freely, but instead of just being like two sort of like, two scrappy ladies. Right. Now it's like, oh, there's like a, there's a block. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And I think, you know, Danielle is sort of trying to tow the line still of like, well, Melissa's, she's helping me with my business and you know margaret did the boogie kids logo again so she i i guess that's nice but then also i've heard i saw that she has an arsenal and like it's i feel like daniel is still trying to kind of play both sides in a way but it's clear like who she actually is leaning toward yeah i think she has a plan and to me like she clearly came in with like a plan

yeah who you know which side she was going to be on i the whole conversation, the whole idea of the word rat being thrown around is so interesting. And I do, it does just make me laugh how like everyone in this cast can agree that like, look, you can call me a bitch. You can call me a motherfucker. But a rat. It's also just so funny because everyone's a rat. Like everyone gets to see the footage. Right. So it's like everyone's talking about everything. Yeah. This was something that I brought up to Rachel that housewife survives on the game of telephone and on carrying the bone from one person to the next and on sharing information within the cast so that the storyline can move forward.

And Danielle has every right to be annoyed with Rachel for how she maybe handled a specific piece of information, but to act like she has committed some, you know, Cardinal sin against her by reporting back to Melissa and Margaret. It's like, that's literally what you guys are hired to do. Exactly. And everyone's going to be able to watch the same thing. Right. And also the, the idea of that all of this is based around Margaret having an arsenal and of information about people. It's like, that's not that big of a secret or a, you know, what is that? Like, okay, anybody could say that. I could say that. And, you know, I like Margaret. Yeah. Sounds like there's like a lot, a lot more that could be said in terms of being a rat.

maybe like secrets about people that you've heard, that seems to be a little bit more of a rat like. Right. Like at some point, we have to imagine this Melissa making out with another dude is going to come to the surface. Like that, I mean, that feels a little bit more salacious than like Margaret has information.

Right. Margaret has a lot of information on people. And again, I think you could say that to Margaret's face and she wouldn't be. Yeah. Maybe she would disagree. But, I mean,

I would say that sounds pretty accurate. I mean, I feel like in certain cases, I have a lot of information on people. I mean, like, anybody can have... It's not necessarily a bad thing. Right. Depends how you use it.

If somebody slides in my DMs with the rumor. Right. Okay. Well, I guess the Teresa Jennifer stance or like they're, the way they're trying to play this is by going against Margaret by saying that she only has any allies because she has dirt on everyone. Yeah, that's always interesting because of course, when you're on housewives with with people that's there's always going to be a calculation a little bit

of a strategy there it is beneficial to long-term status on housewives to have relationships to have friends to have each other's back and alliance if you will but that's not the only thing at play like these these women specifically i think that kind of half of the jersey cast they spend more time together than almost any other off camera, yeah. Bravo Lebrides I can think of. They're constantly at birthdays,

at dinners, at events and stuff. Like they, they seem like real friends. If they only were like banding together on the show for information in some way or for strategy, they wouldn't be at Rachel Futa's birthday dinner last week. Like that's just not how life works.

Yeah, no, I do think they actually do get along, or at least most of them. And I do, the way I would imagine it works, is like you're in this world. You hear a lot of information.

You hear a lot of rumors and secrets because people, you know, every hairdresser probably has their own, you know, story from a time of someone or thing that they heard from someone. So I imagine everyone sort of hears whether they want to or not. Different rumors, different things. And it's sort of like part of the game is what you're choosing to reveal versus what's off limits. I assume anything you hear about someone's kid.

They have a unwritten rule is off limits. Although I don't know if everyone always like keeps. that or you know you kind of decide just how dirty you want to play it by how intensely you're going to reveal the rumor yeah it's it's interesting to see kind of how different people handle different situations so good so good so good everything you want for summer is at nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off stock up and save on the brands you love like vince sam edelman frame and free people join the norty club to unlock Exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first and more.

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You're going to have a lot of endorsements coming your way. Maybe there was a friend who said something. That kind of reveal in Ireland. of that Jennifer had maybe called her the night before and maybe said some things, but who can really say? It was so funny. It was so funny. When she's, well, she basically admits it. She's like, yeah, and then I happened, you know, it was 10 p.m. And then I happened to tell her about, you know, every fight, every part of the fight that we had. So I don't know that the teacup reader might have lost a little credibility.

Yeah. In Ireland. What did you think of Margaret's maybe half apology to Jennifer for calling her a dishevelled drug addict. I mean, I feel like it's as much as she's going to get. What did you think? Yeah, I mean, I think it's hard when you're in the confessional immediately being like, well, am I sorry for saying disheveled?

Of course not. Do I regret it? Of course not. But I mean, drug addict is a little harsh. I don't know if she's a drug addict. What is what? We see, I feel like we're in an era on housewives of people grappling with their opinions of marijuana because it's like.

It's legal. Well, there's a storyline on this season of Ultimate Girls trip where some of them are smoking weed and it's legal in Thailand. And then that becomes a conversation in the finale. And it's like, this isn't interesting. Nobody cares. I mean, for the amount that people get extremely drunk to me, it's like it doesn't really. Right. Like you're on a show where everybody's drinking.

All the time. Every episode, all the time. People are falling down. It's like, if you're... It's like the least of the issue. Right. If you're in a mindset where you think like smoking a joint to relax is like equal or greater value, it's like I don't... Right.

That's purely based on like laws, I guess, but not like the reality of what these drugs or whatever are really doing to you. But I mean, I think some people could probably use like more marijuana than others. Probably help them. I would like to see Jennifer Aiden just getting, you know, blasted. I wonder if she's relaxed, yeah. Right. Like, what's, I think she'd get a little loopy. I could see that.

She might be like a better hang. She could go in the poolhouse with Bill. Is that what he's doing in there? Sort of implied. What's going on in the pool house? What's going on in the pool house? We need like a tour of the pool house. I would love a tour of the pool house.

I mean, I would imagine it's beautiful. It was funny also when Jennifer was like, I don't even care what room I have because I live in a palace every day. The castle in Ireland is pretty nice. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's so funny that they're all, like, so terrified of being haunted. Being haunted. It's like so funny, the juxtaposition of this beautiful Irish castle and, like, these girls from Jersey.

And Melissa's like, I had to take the pictures off the wall. It's very much not the Jersey aesthetic. It is, this trip to me is fun because it feels like they are so out of their comfort zone. Like, they're like, wow. never thought I would be in Ireland. And it's like, it's like the closest place to fly from New Jersey in Europe. They really never have gone anywhere. Have they gone anywhere in Europe? They've gone to Italy, but that's the only. But they're all Italian. So this was like, I feel like that was probably much more comfortable for them. Right. And the trip to Italy was framed as like a pilgrimage home,

basically. Right. And I mean, you know, Joe, Jude Ice is like Italian and all, you know. Yeah. No, this, this trip does feel like kind of a, a big leap for them. Yeah. It's a, a little more like culture than you see it with them usually they're not there was the last trip Jamaica like yeah right like they've been to many a beach right and this is this is different it is yeah it's kind of fun to watch them they're like wow the food's been good and it's like yeah you're in like a big city with restaurants welcome to traveling yeah not the blood sausage maybe the pudding yeah I mean I don't know if everyone's like Irish food is the best food but yeah I'm not gonna I'm not gonna disparage Irish food but I'm sure it's great I'd rather eat Italian food I

I think most people would not to, again, talk shit about the Irish. I did. I absolutely died when Margaret came down to breakfast in a shirt that said endorsed. It was so funny. It just is like, that's like the perfect, like silly little thing. Like this endorsement. It's like, I'm like, yeah, like argue about that. It's fun.

And yeah. And they're all kind of just like always fucking with each other, which is, I think it's fun to watch because, again, they all seem like friends, but they're also extremely real with each other. Yeah, and I think the bus ride conversation where they're talking about infidelity and how they feel about that stuff, that was a moment where it's like, that was a really interesting conversation. And then obviously it kind of went left when, you know, Teresa and Melissa started going out of which we'll talk about. But the infidelity thing is, it's interesting because these women have a lot of varying experiences with that. But I like that they were, it seemed like they were being pretty honest. Right.

You know, they were like not putting on a show like some, the one. who had affairs in the past or anything like that were sort of like pretty open about it. Yeah, the Jen Fessler's story in that sense is really interesting. I was going to, I told him I was going to mediation and I was going to Chile's. Like, I don't know. It's very weird. This casts varying experiences with therapy and couples therapy. It's like that could be a whole show.

I know. But they're talkers. So I would love to hear it. I think it's great. I wonder, do we think Jennifer and Bill are, like, still doing the couples therapy, or was that? I do think they are. I have a feeling they are. Because, like, clearly, Jen still has issues with him.

It wasn't like they were all resolved. And I can't see her letting up on that unless something changed. Right. Like, I hope for her sake that they're sticking with that because I, it seems like she has some very clear action items that she needs from Bill. And I feel like talking to somebody could help, help those along the pipeline. Totally. And what I love about Jennifer and her evolution on this show is she really changed into someone

who was much more real about her family life and her marriage. When she started this show, it was like, I have 17 bathrooms. I'm the perfect husband. He's giving me this, you know, eight-carat ring because we've been together eight years. I don't remember what it was. Like, you know, everything is perfect. My life is perfect. And I do feel like once this infidelity thing happened, she was, now she's not putting

on a show, I think. She's being much more real. Right. And I think, you know, the way that she handles her interpersonal dynamics is maybe a separate thing and maybe not always the most mature. But the marriage, it feels like she is approaching that from a very, like, her eyes are open and she wants to do what she needs to do to make it work. Yeah. She's not like living under a rock or living in the, in the dark, or pushing everything under the rug anymore, to use 15 analogies. Well, Jordana, she's living in a castle in pyramis. Exactly. A beautiful, a separate castle than the Irish. Under a rock in a castle. Instructed probably more recently than the Irish castle from the...

Though, I don't know. Like, when they say they're staying in a castle, I'm like, is this like a castle or is it like a building that was built in like 1980 to look like a castle? I would love to know. And how many pictures of people from the 1700s do you need to put up to make people think that that's when the building was made? I don't know. Like, Dolores said it was for the 1700s and she's done nothing to make me doubters. I don't think any of these ladies are historians. Perhaps not. She was she was like tour guiding a little bit. I appreciate that she's like this place is pretty. It has gardens. This bridge. It's for your, you make the wish. I'm like, this is fun. So Loris, I'm like so happy for her. I feel like she deserves. She seems like so happy.

And the way she describes her relationship with Polly where they like went on the trip and then they came back and then he was like, I don't want you to leave. Just feels like she's been in so many relationships where the people have kept her at arm's distance. Yeah. Even with David and everything like that. And the way she just seems so different in this relationship and so like at peace. Right. It's great.

Right. It feels like it's really working for her and not just like something that can be going on in the background. Right. This isn't just something she's putting up with or dealing with. Yeah. Even when she was describing in the van about when she said to Frank, like if you'll stop cheating.

Right. We can have this fan. and we can like stay married and he was like I can't stop cheating it's like she's always had to kind of like work around what everyone else wants and now it feels like she has something she really wants she's got a groove back I know so happy for her all new drinks are now at McDonald's with refreshers like the strawberry watermelon refresher and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba to crafted sodas like the sprite berry blast with berry flavors and cold foam Who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire?

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Ask about. Your next assignment. I was thinking the exact same thing. I was like, this seems like a little random. We see you've been talking about cheating. We'd like to change the subject. So Rachel asks if the kids are close. And I thought it was, you know, interesting slash likely intentional that this question was posed to Teresa.

Because we already have gotten an inkling of this Sweet 16 situation. And Teresa right away goes for, you know, they were, they used to be close. but then Antonia didn't go to Melania's. She ruined the whole thing. Didn't go to Melania's Sweet 16. Melania's feelings were hurt. And I mean, look, it's tough because I like to see both sides when I can. And Melissa has certainly not made all the right decisions.

But it's like in that moment, it's just like, Teresa went right for the thing that was going to send it that way. You know that that's going to like set her off. But she didn't really even bring. The thing about this season and Melissa and Teresa is it doesn't even like obviously they get like in their fights or their tips, but they both still seem like kind of over. Like even Melissa, when she hears the shit is like, all right. Like yeah, it's all us. Like we're all.

Yeah. Everything is our fault. Like and it's done almost with a sense of like I don't have the energy to like really get into this with you. And Melissa's response. It's not really. It's not an emotional. response. She's not saying, she's not starting to cry and being like, Teresa, how could you bring up my child?

She's like, really? Again, is this bitch serious? That's the, that's the vibe we're getting from Melissa. And, you know, it's very much like we're doing this again. Right. Well, at this point, it's been like, if you think about like how far we've come from season two, it's been like 20 years. They've known each other. And she's probably like, I, like, my expect, I think people get really upset when things are so far off from their expectations. And she's like, I just expect you to say this kind of thing. Yeah. And there was at the conversation, I think on last week's episode maybe when Jennifer said that Melissa was like invited out of obligation. She was like, well, you've been in her life 20 years? And it's like, yeah, but that's not like 20 years of bliss. And then something went wrong.

It's like Melissa and Teresa haven't been like adoring sisters in law ever. Ever. So when this is happening on the bus, it's like, Melissa is pissed off that Teresa's, you know, basically saying that the reason the kids aren't close is Antonia, you know, not prioritizing Melania's Sweet 16 over cheer. Yeah. But like, it's not, she's not heartbroken that Teresa's saying this. Right. It's so funny.

It's true. They've never had like a honeymoon period. Yeah. You know, you see that sometimes when there's like falling out between housewives, you, you like, I think of the classic of like Bethany and Carol. Mm-hmm. where you had a few seasons where they were really close. Right. And then something changed and it was all over like,

you never really had that here. Right. The best we've ever had is like a tenuous period of quote unquote peace. Right. Like a latent tension as opposed to a full on fighting. Yeah. We've had periods of like, things are going good. We're going to the shore together.

It's like, okay. We're just like not going to talk about things. Right. Right, right, right. Like, at any second, it could go back to like, well, at the christening. Yeah, it was never like, and we've been really, like, you know, they've had a close time. They're doing things together. They, I don't think you see many scenes of the two of them together.

Not just like hanging out. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough because it really feels as we're getting toward the end of the season, like, they're going to come to a point where they just agree to not be, or maybe not agree. but like where things are just over between them. And I'm kind of like, okay, let's get there. Let's do it. Yeah.

Let's cut the cancer out from both sides. Yes. Because it's like, you know, I tend to be more agreeing with Melissa than Teresa. But I think for Teresa's sake too. Yeah. They both will be better off when they're not in these situations. Agreed. But I just wonder what that means for the show.

Yeah. That's my big question is like I don't see either of them bowing out of the show or leaving the show. and so they can't really escape each other if they're both continuing to be on the show. Yeah. I think that is really going to be the question leading out of this season. I'm super curious to see at this reunion if there's any kind of more like coffee grounds to read about what's going to happen. Because I mean, this was kind of a story happening at last season's reunion when Melissa and Teresa seemed to be like. parting ways, kind of.

And there was talk of whether Teresa was going to get put on pause, whether she was kind of going to get like spun off for a wedding thing and not do housewives this season. That didn't end up happening for better or for worse. You know, they kept both of them.

But it does feel like this season has a more final aspect to it of like this really can't be the status quo anymore. Yeah. I guess we'll see. Yeah. Do you have like a gut feeling of whether you would keep Teresa or Melissa? It's hard because I like them both.

Yeah. As like housewives. Yeah. As housewives and watching them on TV. I would be fine keeping both of them if they just didn't make this a plot anymore just because it's been done so many years. Yeah. I don't know how they would do that though.

Yeah. It's tricky because there are plenty of housewives when you think of like people who can't really just coexist peacefully. Right. I would even put Margaret and Jennifer kind of in that category. The amount of times where they have just been like at a dinner or on a bus together and then suddenly we're bickering about something that happened two seasons ago, it's not like they're great at just setting aside their differences either. But I don't know. For some reason, the Teresa and Melissa just feels like a larger, like looming presence that would be hard to ignore.

Well, that's just been a major point in almost every season. Yeah. Yeah, I think, I mean, just the way that I sort of see it from a show perspective, it's like, I think it's an easy, it's an easy call that Teresa is more iconic or like a, you know, a more legendary housewife. That's not really up for debate to me. But when you look at like the, the sort of like chess board, I'm like, I think getting rid of Teresa would kind of scramble the game a little bit more and, you know, thinking. about like what would Jennifer's position be? Would she all of a sudden have to kind of be like, make new alliance? Hey, Melissa. Like, how are you doing today?

Like, what's up? Like, it's been a while since we really sat down and talked. Or like, what would that mean for Danielle? Because I think, I do think the, the new women this season are going to stay. I think they're going to be around. And so, you know, depending how the cast shake up might happen, it's like, that's all of a sudden really interesting. and we might not have so much two teams anymore.

I think it will be really interesting. And I also think Melissa, although I agree, most of both of their plotlines are about their struggles with each other, although they have an occasional one-off. You know, since Teresa's been found Louis, I feel like that's been her major. In the words of Teresa, I got divorced on the show. I went to prison on the show. She had her child. She had a child on the show.

But like, now what? But I think the Joe Gorga is his own. unofficial housewife. And I actually do think he's really important to the show. And I think the men's friendship is a really entertaining aspect of the show. And he does seem to sort of spearhead that in a lot of ways. Or he creates the drama with the men's group. Yeah.

I think I think that's kind of what I am thinking of. That it's like, I think Teresa is the more, she's the bigger star. But I think in terms of the glue that holds the show together, I think Melissa and Joe don't necessarily get enough credit for how much revolves around them. Especially the outer circle of the outer group. Yeah. And the family din. I feel like that's all something to consider, especially for Jersey.

I think a lot of the other cities, it's much more about the women. And it feels so much more about like the families and the husbands and the larger friend group. And like you said, it all seems integrated. What if they carton of Teresa had brought back Kathy O'Keeley? Oh, my God. Teresa would not allow that to. happen. We cut out one cancer and brought back another. I would love that. Oh my God. No, please,

if Bravo was listening, that was a joke. As like an April Fool's joke for Teresa. At the reunion, they just spring. They're like, and Kathy's here. Right. I would love to just see, just to see how if Teresa could remain in her zen. Yeah. You know. I mean, it's also interesting, like, it came up on the show that like Dina decided not to go to the wedding. Yeah, what happened there. Like, that's interesting, but also, like, Dina's never coming back to housewives. Caroline, Caroline has said she's not going to come back. Has she been invited back? Well, so she was on the girl's trip that they filmed in Morocco.

And she had a bad experience. The thing happened with Brandy. And I think she said, like, I'm not doing that shit again. I mean, how old is Caroline Manzo? Like, 60-ish. Okay. But also, it's like, like Rachel was born in the 90s. Right.

At a certain point, at a certain point, it's like, I don't think they're going to to like go back in that direction. I think the the age range right now works, but like, I don't think we need. Yeah, we can't go older and younger at the same time. Yeah, I know. It's tough because Caroline's a grandma. And like, like Rachel seems like she's still having kids. Yeah, I mean, she literally had like an infant when they filmed this season. So yeah, I don't know what's going to happen. But I am really, I'm into Rachel and Danielle's. Yeah. Danielle is like, tension. is really trying to make a name for herself on the show.

The Bougy Mama. Yes. I mean, I'm not surprised. It all goes with everything that you kind of feel about Danielle and her really intense quest to be relevant. And, you know, every, I feel like, attention. I, this is not, this is not me being shady because I respect it and I am enjoying Danielle a lot on this season. I feel like every time I open Instagram, the first post that pops up is another post from her about an event that she's doing. And I'm like, I'm just tired.

Just watching this. She's like, come sip and shop with Danielle Cabral in Chicago. I'm like, damn, girl. She's got the energy. Getting booked. Yeah. It is impressive. She's got a new logo.

She's hustling. Thanks to Margaret. Yeah, the bougie mama. The bougie kids pop up at Envy by Melissa Gorga. They sold a lot of the girl stuff. I believe it. I believe it. You should be getting all your, all your, like, baby.

gifts at at bougie kids. But now there's going to be a boogey kids at envy? Well, I think that's just a one-off. A one-off. It was like bringing some racks. I don't know if it goes with the vibe of the rest of Melissa Gorgas clothes. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know so much. I've never been to Envy. That's on my bucket list. Right? I kind of want to get. We should do a field trip. That's field trip. I remember we had an idea to do that like mid-pandemic.

We were like, what if? What if we did? And they were like, you would need like, permits for like COVID because you were like literally not allowed to be in a car together. In hazmat suits. We all go to envy and then where else could we go? The restaurant where the table flip happened is like still in existence. Yes.

So that's, we go there. The brownstone. Topping rows. I have that weekend there. The Hamptons will be a separate day. Yes. Wow. Well, maybe next time.

I would be in. Great. I'll get on the bus. The Betches bus. I'll send like a, you know, like a doodle pole to get a calendar. under date scheduled. Betches, Housewives, Tours could be a whole new business line for us. I'm like seeing a to-do list in front of me. Right. Well, Jordana, thank you so much for being here. This is fun. Thank you for having me. Always a blast. And thank you everyone for listening.

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