Mention It All - The Most Chaotic Reunion Ever? (Southern Charm Reunion, Summer House Premiere)

Episode Date: February 5, 2021

Bari and Dylan still have whiplash from the Southern Charm reunion, but they try their best to make sense of the chaos. Is anyone thirstier than Madison? Has Kathryn actually learned anything? And why DOES Craig care so much? Much to consider. Then, they recap the season premiere of Summer House, which featured two new cast members and a whole lot of Loverboy. Lindsay and Hannah are already getting into it, while Luke’s relationship status is a hot topic in the house. It’s going to be a bumpy ride! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer And go check me boo And Barry Rosenfeld I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld's And I'm excited it's Friday because I'm not doing work for the next I think week now two days is fine. I'm like, did you chug a Red Bull before this? Are you okay?

I woke up not feeling well, but like my normal not feeling well. Like I can't take it waking up sometimes frequently with a headache. I'm like, oh my God, but I have my period. So is it that? I don't know. But now I think I feel fine. Like I think I just needed to like walk it off a little. And I'm clearly back.

I'm back. Okay. Dylan, like doesn't know. He's like, he's like taking him. He's like, oh. A lot of energy. He hates when I'm like. I would say I'm low on energy today because I couldn't fall asleep, but I was up to

three and I ended up ordering. I bought one of Heather Gay's beauty lab and laser t-shirts, the one that she wore in the season finale that says life is short, buy the lips. It's a good shirt. I'm really excited for that. TBD on whether I'm going to get lip fillers to match, but maybe next time I'm in Salt Lake, I'll have Heather do mine. You wear the shirt.

I'll do the pout face, okay, because of my, my, my lips. Okay, fun fact. So I got my lips done one a year ago. Next week will be a year. And I have been getting, as you guys know, so much dental work. And you can't get your lips done when you get dental work because like your lips will literally like move like and lose shape. So I, because I have so many appointments and have coming up like I'm literally counting down the days because like the day after or my last dental appointment. Like I'm getting inject them blown up. I mean, good thing nobody is seeing you right now anyway.

So like, I know. I know. But you might as well wait a little longer so then when the world does open up, like you still have some mileage on your lips. I know. Okay. We are talking about today the Summer House season premiere, but before that we're talking about the Southern Charm reunion.

We missed last week. So we're just going to kind of get into all of it because oh boy wasn't a reunion like oh my first of all thank you it was it was like that is what that was good TV both episodes great TV I can't say that I will I don't want every reunion to be like this because it was very stressful and I think for a lot of shows it would just be too much but for this cast it's like the season was like I didn't think the season was bad I didn't think it was like super boring, but I thought it was like not, it wasn't the strongest. It was very short. COVID kind of got in the way of a lot of stuff. And their reunion was

nothing if not entertaining. I was entertained. Yeah, it was. But the annoying part about it was that no one else had to be there besides Madison, Craig, and Austin. And that's how I felt. I was like, this is a basic, this is like a huge massive therapy session. And, like, Like it's, I don't need this. Like there, I don't need Madison to be the point, the focal point of this. Okay. To me, yeah. I, so it almost felt like there were two distinct reunions happening that it was like the

Madison Craig and Austin dynamic was like this whole just chaotic mess of yelling and flinging accusations and looking at DMs and, you know, all of this different stuff that was being brought up. And then there was. the Catherine part of the reunion, which I think obviously was important this stuff needed to be talked about. There were, I think, as much as I don't think the cast deserves like a ton of credit for making some basic realizations about, you know, racism and all of that. I do think it was, there were some good takeaways. But like, it was almost like Catherine and Leva and, you know,

them talking through that stuff felt so separate from the Madison and Austin and Craig stuff that it was like, that was one episode of TV. Like, I have whiplash. One takeaway was that Pringle did not need to be there because he did not participate in a conversation, including when Andy had them all go around and ask for a final thought. He couldn't even come up with that. Pringle, you had two episodes to fucking like come up with a sentence and he couldn't. Yeah. So they started. So they started. off kind of part two by talking about Pringle once again trying to convince us that he's hot. Some of them throwing shade at him for like leaving his kids in California, which I thought was interesting. But yeah, I mean, you know, some cast members, this is a tough cast, I would say. Like there are, there's a lot of history, a lot of baggage between the cast and he never really, I would say like worked his way into the group. I don't, I don't, I think they like

for the most part, but it's like when it comes to the actual stuff they needed to get through at the reunion, he wasn't really that relevant. Right. Like Cameron, who's not on the show, was more involved in more conversations than than he was because he's been friends. She's been friends with them. Sadly accurate. Yes. Okay, wait. Let's get into it because like we have a lot to unpack about Madison and Austin in both episodes. But the first one started out with Craig. First of all, Craig was not holding back. Craig was like, get that camera on me and I'm going to go all out. And he off the bat started calling Madison Neme saying she flew to Miami, saying all this stuff that in fact

when Andy had a butt in. And when Andy yells at Craig, it's like the funniest thing ever because it's like his child. He's like, calm down. Sit down. Like, relax. Why do you care? Craig's energy at this reunion really stressed me out because he clearly went in with a lot of- Well, yeah, I mean, he went in with a lot of anger, a lot of feelings, and I don't think he was sober when the day started, and he got less and less sober as the day went on. And honestly, by part two, it was a little like, we've seen people be medicated at reunions. Never forget, Vicky's like asleep on the couch reunion. I think Nini maybe had one or two of those. I don't think we've ever seen somebody that was as like fucked up as, as. Craig was at this reunion. Visibly. His hair was a mess. His shirt was unbuttoned.

Like, he was just like letting loose. And I respect it. But at the same time, I'm like, it's a little much. It was. But the thing is he has felt this way, like about Madison

and his best friend for a long time. We even saw it throughout the actual season. So I feel like their relationship, like, affected him. him and he and then things happened obviously off camera that we heard about at the reunion that he went into knowing so he was ready to like spill it and um the thing that obviously is in the news right now he called her out that she was Madison first of all I'm sorry Madison lied throughout the entire reunion the entire reunion she just lied about things so it's very hard allegedly

allegedly but it's very hard to believe anything she says now because she even when she was saying to Craig that she apologized to Natalie, she read the text messages, gave her phone to Andy, and Andy goes, you added two I'm sorrys. Like, they're not written here.

And so that was a blatant lie. Like, that's weird that she did that. I don't think that's like a blatant lie. I think that's like, she added, she added two I'm sorrys while reading it to make her look like she apologized and she didn't.

So I don't know. I know I feel strongly against her, but like it was weird. That specifically is that big of a deal. It's like the texts. She still sent the text. Like, whatever. I don't really care about like how many times she said she's sorry. It's not how many.

It's that she lied. Yeah, but like she still sent and I'm sorry text. She just only said the words I'm sorry once instead. I don't, to be honest, like I'm kind of tired of like nitpicking at like everything. The whole A-Rod thing is just like too much for me to like, fully process. So basically she's admitted that they FaceTimeed with each other, but she says that it was they are just acquaintances and that they, quote, were never physical and she never saw him

in person, which that leaves a lot of, I would say, wiggle room for what specifically went down on the FaceTime. Right. Well, not. But I'm glad that she at least acknowledged that they have. have communicated and are like do know each other because it was it was weird like it felt weirdly like something's missing when she was like no no no that's not true that's not true like I'm glad that she at least is acknowledging some basic context right well not to nitpick but she

said that they had no communication until Austin and Craig were like yes you did you face time face and she was like okay like we FaceTime so like she was still going again I know at that point you're dealing with like a major celebrity scandal. So she probably was like, I don't want to talk about this. But like it happened. And I think that it is good that she has even on social media acknowledged it. But then at the same time,

Arod is acknowledging. He goes, I've never spoken to her. So now I'm like, it's pretty clear to me that Bravo, for whatever reason, legally wasn't, wasn't playing his name on the reunion because they bleeped it out. So like that makes me think that there was some,

somewhere there was something legal involved, whether it was like Madison signed an NDA or A-Rod caught wind of it and was like, you can't do that shit. I'd be so scared. But honestly, to me, the more exciting part, because the A-Rod thing is just like, it's too messy for me. Whereas Jay Kotler is like my sweet spot. I'm very into that. And so I really appreciated and was surprised in part two when Andy Cohen got to read out loud. I couldn't believe that.

Madison's DMs with Jay Kotler. And she was, when she got out her phone to find those DMs, she was swiping, swiping, flinging her finger up the screen. There were a lot of DMs in that chat. Yeah. I took a screenshot. I took a screenshot and her finger was blurry because it was moving so fast. Like they, she, I think she tried to do that quickly, but it's like, it was like, it was

like when Brandy and Denise had those text messages. They're like, no, no, there's a friendship there. Like, there are pages of text. messages. Like, oh my God. Somebody who's like a casual acquaintance, like you don't, it doesn't take you 30 seconds to scroll up the DM chat to the top. No, but

also like Jay Cutler, obviously I don't think was sitting there watching the Southern Charm reunion, but he's obviously heard about what happened. And if I were him, I would be having diarrhea right now because that you're put on blast. Obviously, Austin and Craig are friends with Kristen. We know this. Kristen apparently

slid into Craig's DMs, but he loved saying that. But kind of the question is how did the Madison and Jay thing get initiated? And the boys really want to make it to, they really want us to think that Madison was being thirsty and was going after Jay. And she's like, no, no, no, that's not what happened. And I believe that Jay slid into Madison's DMs. Jay, okay, the thing is like, Jay is more famous than Madison, but he also is like a total shithead. and like a guy who, a horny guy who's getting divorced and like Madison's hot.

And I feel like to me, like they're sort of on the same level. Like, even though I know that he's like more famous in actuality, it's like they're both like thirsty reality stars at this point. Yeah, but they were talking about like restaurants and I did, she did call, she did call him out in the DM and was like, are you asking me this because your ex reached out to my ex. she knew exactly what was happening. But I do have to say that last night, I watched What Happens Live.

Austin said that this week Kristen went on their podcast and like spill, like let them know like everything. And I was like, I feel like that was a plug for Austin's podcast. And I don't think Kristen like went on there and spilled any tea in my opinion. I mean, I'm sure Kristen went on there and like, like air quotes, like spilled the tea. But like I don't think we actually.

are getting any like ground, earth-shattering information. Wait, yeah. Also, my favorite minimal part of the reunion was when Danny leaned over and said, what's XMLB? I like Danny, Danny, like, majorly baseball. I really, I really relate to Danny's energy of just being like a ball of stress the whole time. Like, she just seems very anxious and like very stressed to be there.

I think that's just kind of her personality. But I feel like Danny's a good kind of like grounding presence. because she obviously has, you know, it's not like she doesn't have like thoughts or feelings about this, but she, I feel like kind of stays a little neutral sometimes. She's the Heather Gay of Southern Charm. Oh. Right? I'm making great analogies. Okay.

So before we move on, I do want to talk just about this Catherine stuff. I, okay, I do. The one thing I will say for Catherine is that I believe that this season has been really stressful for her to relive, like all of that stuff. But she just, she just seems fully incapable of like actually explaining and like acknowledging the parts. Because she immediately, she's talking about, Andy asks her about her saying the minority thing in the DM. And she immediately is like, well, it was late at night and I had been drinking. And so when, if I said it like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Craig once again, we know Craig is blasted at this point.

So the fact that even he is like trying. He's like, Catherine, like, this will be so much better for you if you just own it, basically. And like, she just can't quite wrap her mind around the fact that like it would be better for her to just say that was fucked up and I'm sorry than to like try and explain it. Right. I listen, I'm not a fan of Catherine. I've said that in the past, but I think she has come not a long way, but it's a long way. little way. She's come a little way. She has, you said it right, she just doesn't know how to explain. So I was even talking to one of my friends last night and I was like, I want to sometimes look at

Catherine and go spit it out. Like, what do you want to say? And it makes me like uncomfortable watching because I'm always like, and it's not just the reunion. It's always like she she doesn't know what she wants to say. So I do have to say, though, she, when she broke down and said like, can everyone stop like this is hard for like, I understood what she meant. And obviously her, that level was like, hello. Like it's a lot for me too. That's why I want you to understand that. But I got what Catherine was saying because let's say she did make a mistake.

And now the whole world is coming for her. Like that might be a little hard on a person to like gather your thoughts. But Leva at the same time did a really good job at like speaking and educating and like getting through. And just making sure that that person in this case, Catherine, and understood, like, what you were doing as opposed to other people giving up on others. Yeah, it's unfortunate that Leva has kind of had to spend half of the season in this position of, like, being the one explaining things

and being the one who gets it. And if the show comes back, I hope that Leva can have more of, like, a season about her. Yes. It sucks that she's had to spend so much time being like, okay, all I'm trying to do is make this clear. And it's like, yeah, and she shouldn't have to bear that responsibility. But at the same time, I'm thankful that there is at least one person in the cast who can play that role.

But it just sucks that she's had to spend so much time doing it. And I'm. Yeah. And I wish that, well, not I wish. I really, really hope that when this show, if when it comes back, it won't be a pandemic. We can film at Leva's restaurants. Like, we can see her, like, working. We can see them, like, out.

about like that would just be a dream like let's go party at republic when the my one trip that got canceled last like during the pandemic was to charleston and i was i've been like upset about it because that's like i've never been to charleston and never been either and i was like actually really looking forward to it and we're not reschedule like we're not rescheduling it like of course i'm going to eventually go but like that actual trip we're not but sorry i'm being so annoying have to nitpick one more time Madison got her mommy makeover, which like she looks fucking bangin. Like she's amazing.

And she said she didn't sleep with Austin. And Austin said they did. And I was like, dude. Yeah. That was a very strange moment to me just because it's like there are at least like both of you are, it would be one thing if Austin wasn't a cast member on the show and you could just like say that you haven't slept together and nobody's going to pry. But it's like he's sitting right there. If you've slept together and you're lying about it, he knows.

Like. Yes. And Craig, though, is especially when he's drunk, he's like that person at the bar and you're like, okay, you're annoying now like next to me. He kept like he loves bringing up stuff. I've called him a little bitch in the past. I love him, but still. Like he brought up Shepp cheating.

He brought up everything happening. He brought up like that they've slept together. Like Craig, and then at one point, Andy was like, Craig, why do you care? Right. Like Craig is in everybody's business, which is helpful for a reunion, but also like Craig, why do you care? And then Austin said, you don't want me to see your stomachs. You said, just put it in.

I don't like that. That was like not. And Madison just sat there. Because like, have you come back to that? Love is like, Leva and Catherine are like, what the fuck is happening? Shepp is just laughing. He doesn't even know what to think. Oh my God.

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We talked about Southern Charm enough. So season five premiered last night. Obviously, we talked to Carl and Lindsay earlier this week. So if you haven't listened to that, go check it out. They talked about lots of stuff with the new season. I am so excited that Summer House is back because it's just, it's always that like breath of fresh air. Yeah.

It's the middle of the winter. And right away, we're back in the house. We're quarantined in the house this year, which is definitely different. But this cast, like, I don't even feel like that much happened this episode, but it was just a fun time. I'm glad to be back. Yeah, like it was just an introduction, essentially. Like, we see Lindsay and her boyfriend are now living like he's on the show. We see Carl is sober, which is hard.

But at the same time, might be a little easier because they're not partying. They're not having parties. So we spoke to him about that as well. It was a little difficult. We see them working during. during the week at the house. The household also, by the way, is massive. I'm like, oh, my God, what I would do to lay.

It made me feel a little better that when Amanda, Paige and Hannah were just lounging on the lounge chairs, I did notice that this is so, I'm so random, that trees were covering and there was just shadow. So I was like, okay, I don't feel as bad. It doesn't look like that good of a sunny backyard. Well, it's probably just for like one part of the day, like, however the It's really fine. Yeah, I would hate to be at that house because the pool chairs are in the shadows sometimes.

Okay, so the first kind of big drama that we're seeing this season is, of course, between Lindsay and Hannah. They have this kind of ongoing thing from, I love it on this show. It's like they've agreed that anything that happened when they weren't filming is just the winter. And it's so funny, the way they talk about, like, you know, like, we had a tough winter and we weren't really talking. So now that it's summer and it's like, you know, there's four seasons. Right.

Well, Hannah found out that Lindsay had a New Year's Eve party that she wasn't invited to, but she invited Luke to. And at that time, Hannah and Luke were allegedly dating. And then she found out that Lindsay tried to get Danielle and Luke to hook up at the New Year's Eve party. come to find out Lindsay apparently did this because she heard Hannah talking shit about her on a podcast. So it was all like getting back to each other. Yeah, it's very, I would say it's very like he said, she said. And because all of this happened when they weren't filming, I feel like both of them are probably unreliable narrators in this situation.

And we won't necessarily know kind of exactly what happened. personally, I feel like they both have, they both have the right to like have little issues with each other. I think both of them are kind of blowing it out of proportion a little bit, especially because this is stuff when they filmed, this was stuff that had happened like seven months ago. So it's like, okay, like Lindsay didn't really have a reason to give Hannah the cold shoulder. And also Hannah didn't really have a reason to be like so mad at Lindsay. But I know that this is a reality show and that's kind of. Well, speaking of that, reality show, I always say. So they're there the entire day and they're ignoring each other. And then at dinner that night, they bring it up. But I always wonder about these shows. You're telling me you guys haven't spoken and hashed it out since New Year's Eve. Like you waited until the first episode of filming to talk about.

But then I was like, okay, enter production. Duh. Like, maybe. Yeah, I'm curious. Like, I wonder with these shows sometimes, like, obviously they're not supposed to talk to each other for the nine months that they're. not filming. But I do wonder sometimes if there's that thing of like, oh, we're like, we're filming this summer. Like, we should probably save it for then. I don't know. Like,

if they're not friends, friends, they're not hanging out during the winter, then, and then I understand. And it was, you know, it was, it was quarantine. Not everybody was in the city. Like, you weren't seeing people. I do. It is interesting, though, because Lindsay seems like not particularly interested in engaging with Anna. And so it's like, okay, like, you're filming now. You should probably do this. Okay, fun fact, fun fact. Again, I'm watched Happens Live last night with Hannah and Austin. Austin told Hannah last night on live television that Lindsay called him and told him she wasn't inviting Hannah. And it was actually really sad to see Hannah's reaction. Like Austin, Austin was like, yeah, I knew you weren't invited because I think he, they might have, but yeah, it was like a little

sad because you know regardless of who it is it's always not fun to not be invited to something. The thing that I feel like we need more definitive answers for is what the real like relationship status was and is between Luke and Hannah. Yep. Because I feel like they have kind of differing explanations and it seems like to Hannah, Hannah, Hannah thinks that they were more or less in a relationship, whereas that doesn't seem to be Luke's idea of what was happening. And I feel like, you know, obvious,

I believe that Luke was being shady regardless, but there's a big difference between kind of being a dick to a girl that you're seeing and cheating on your girlfriend. So like we need more, we, I want, I'm like kind of not taking a side because I feel like we don't know exactly what the situation was. I believe that Luke is dick. I don't particularly like Luke, but I'm like,

I need to know what the, what the actual context was. Well, I was just going to say that. Like, he's clearly a fuck boy. Like, you know,

and then they haven't had sex. Hannah shouldn't want to date Luke. It's funny because she's finally like, I think I've accepted that he's not going to be my boyfriend. And Paige, and Lindsay, you're like, Amanda.

Duh. Yeah. They, yeah, like Amanda was like, wait, this is still under considerate. Like,

this is still like a conversation. You're thinking about it. But, listen, when feelings become involved in you, and she claims they talk to every single day. Like, I don't know. It's kind of like a mind fuck, but at that point, haven't we all? At that point where you're like literally think you're like going to get engaged the next day

and then they're like on vacation with someone else. That didn't happen to me. I'm just like saying. We find out though that Luke is coming a little later because he has to get additional testing and he's with his friend and they're coming the next day and there having a good time and he will not say she or her name or her or anything. And we find out it's, you know, the new cast member, Sierra, who by the way is the prettiest like human I've ever seen in my life.

It's not like it's like hurtful. She's beautiful. I feel I would love to meet her. This whole kind of plot line felt really convoluted to me because the way that he was like not saying who it was, but they clearly knew who it was. And he's like showing up late, but it's like, you're showing up to film a TV show. Everybody knows, like, clearly they know that Sierra is going to be on the show. It's not just like, oh, yeah, like, my friend is coming over for dinner. It's like, this girl is joining the cast. She's a cast member, yeah.

Yeah, it was weird to me. Like, I get that they, they kind of probably want to build up the tension because there's, you know, like a lot of stuff surrounding Luke. But it's like, just like, just say Luke and Sierra coming late. And it's like they're quarantining together because they're going to go into the house together. Like, right. It's not like they're in a love nest for two weeks like fucking every day. They, well, they have Luke, they arrived to the house and Luke did tell the guys like they have hooked up before. Sierra even said it too. They've slept together. Like obviously, I can't make assumptions, but they've slept together these two weeks. Like they had, there's a history between them. So like that makes things even more complicated, which we will see unfold during the season. But, um,

that night after dinner, like everyone goes to bed, which is so awkward. Everyone's like, all right, time for bed. It's like 9.30 at night because they like have nothing else to do. And then Luke texts both Sierra and Hannah at the same time. And I'm sorry. I don't know. I need to know how you feel about this. He said it in person and then in the text message.

If someone called me Burn Dog, like he's like, what's up, burn dog? I'm like, what? Don't call her that. Yeah. I feel weird about it. nicknames like that. Like to me that is a very like, that is a very like, I don't want to fuck you nickname. But at the same time, like, I know he calls her that.

So like, I don't know. But like, I would not appreciate it. You can tell like while he was hugging her and he's like, what's up? Burn dog? She like, she like, all right. But also it's funny because then like Carl will be like sub hub house and I'm like, you've hooked up. Like I don't know. Oh my God.

I don't know. I mean, they definitely like, they have. their little nicknames for each other, but at the same time, like, I'm not personally a fan. No, I don't like it. I don't like it. I'm excited for this season, though. It was like a fun season premiere. It's nice to have everyone back.

I feel like we just kind of like got our toes wet. It wasn't too crazy, but I, I'm into it. We see, we also see Perry drop off page, which is the last we ever see Perry that to fact, my friends even text me, even before tonight, they're like, I need to know why page and Perry broke up. I was like, same. I don't know, but like... Like, watch the show. Yeah, like, I don't know why, but like, it is sad because, like, look at on the outside,

they look like such a cute, like, adorable little couple. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was interesting when she and Amanda were talking about their respective relationships. And Paige is clearly in a point where she is not sure that this is, like, actually going to last. And I thought it was interesting Amanda talking about, you know, like, obviously she and Kyle have had a lot of issues, but she's never really had doubts about Kyle as her partner, whereas like, it's a lot different to say, like, I'm not sure that I belong with this person versus I know I belong with this person. We just have to like figure it out. And so, you know, we'll see.

We shall see. Yes. But yeah, I'm excited too for this season. It looks fun. It'll definitely. Keep us occupied on Thursday nights. On Thursday nights. And we will be back on Monday with New episode. In the meantime, don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches, and just be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Betches.