Mention It All - The Scandoval Writing Was On The Wall Ft. Samantha Bush (VPR, RHOM Reunion)
Episode Date: March 16, 2023Dylan has a packed agenda for today’s show, and he’s joined by Samantha Bush to help debrief. They cover Ariana’s return to Instagram, and why the Scandoval updates are starting to get stale. Th...en, they get into this week’s Pump Rules, discussing Raquel’s haunting behavior on the girls’ trip. Later, they pivot to the Miami reunion, where Alexia’s logic is getting tough to watch, and Larsa is delusional as ever. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey everyone
Welcome back to the Mentioned At All
podcast
I'm Dylan Hafer
And today we have a lot to get into
There is a Vanderpump Rules episode
That feels almost too good to be true
A Miami reunion episode
That is extremely chaotic
And of course some lingering
Scandival updates
and who better to break it all down with me than Beth's own Samantha Bush.
Hi, Sam. How's it going?
Hi, I'm good. I'm so excited to be here.
I'm excited to have you here.
These Thursdays right now are just kind of like an onslaught of things to get into.
And, you know, get into it. We will.
I'm curious, how have you been handling the scandal of all?
Because I don't think we've talked on Mike about any of it.
Where are you at right now?
Where I'm at right now is I need there to stop being like silly little updates clogging my feed that I don't care about.
Like I want big news to break.
That's what I want.
So to you like a TMZ article that's like a source saying Raquel is considering not attending the reunion.
Like that's not really what you're interested in at this point.
No, like I need confirmation.
Like I want hard facts.
Also, you know, I've seen.
there was a thing where people were going back and forth about Raquel on the application for
the restraining order didn't check this box that said that Sheena couldn't contact her, but then
it turned out that she actually also filed a separate thing, which is in itself a no contact
order.
So like, Sheena's lawyer had already said at this point, Sheena can't contact Raquel or be, you know,
communicate directly with her.
And people are still trying to be like, well, but if she didn't check the box.
And it's like, Sheena's lawyer already did that.
You don't have to waste your time pretending that you know how to read a restraining order.
Well, that's like when I kind of tap out a little bit, like where I'm like, let me know when something actually happens.
And I also have feelings about the Vanderpump Rules cast doing podcasts, making merch, surrounding all of this.
I mean, the reality stars are going to reality star at the end of the day.
So you're saying that you didn't.
love Lala hiring a digital billboard truck to advertise her send it to Daryl hoodie around the
streets of Los Angeles? You know what I didn't. I didn't love it. I didn't love the merch in the first
place because to me that's like when it's not as funny. Like that's like when the joke like falls
flat to me. Like it was funny because it was like off the cuff and then now you're making merch but
I'm like I mean you have the you have oceans two two year old birthday party to pay for so. Right. It's like by the
time everyone involved in Ariana DeBose's rap has acknowledged the rap, it's not, it's not funny anymore.
It's not funny anymore. Right. So we are at the point where I feel like Scandival has sort of reached
critical mass in terms of like the chatter around it. Of course, I was excited. I don't know if excited is
the exact right word to see Ariana is back on Instagram. She posted over the night with just a lovely
photo of herself and high where to begin expressing her gratitude saying devastate is an understatement
but then the last line of the caption is what doesn't kill me better run and that is the energy I want
from Ariana like they have a reunion to film who knows exactly who will be there but I need
Ariana like she can have one segment of the reunion where she is like crying and heartbroken
but then I need a second segment after that to be like the scorched earth like these fuckers
really, really tried to do me like that.
Yeah, I was a little worried that Ariana would maybe take the high road in this.
Like, I was kind of scared because I was like, no, like, I want her to go scorched earth.
Like, I want her to like, come for them.
And to see that that's what's happening, like, I'm delighted.
Yeah, the whole cast, save for Schwartz, I guess, like, everybody else in the situation really does seem to be riding hard.
and like, you know, standing by that.
Like, even James is still very like, you know, high and mighty.
Even fucking Jacks Taylor is like, did you see Jackson Brittney here going and watch what happens live next week?
Yes, Dylan, and I can't wait.
I was, no, I was hoping.
Is Cruz going to be the bartender?
Mama Sherry?
Jacks was, like, teasing this on Instagram in the past couple weeks.
And I was really hoping that he was just kind of bluffing or like maybe he would be the bartender or something.
but like we're getting a Jackson Brittany episode of Watch What Happens Live.
I know, which I don't think they've ever been on together.
Even when they were on the show, I don't think that they have ever been on at the same time.
I'm also, like the reason I'm excited is I feel like Jacks has a lot he can say.
And I'm excited to see what that is, you know?
The interesting thing about Jackson, Brittany, is that they, to me, are like not
they're not close with the cast still in the way that, like, Kristen is or, you know, maybe some, I don't know.
They're very close with Lala.
Are they still close with Lala?
Yeah, they went to Disneyland, I think, yesterday.
Okay, fine.
Well, because, you know, they always, they like live there.
They live there.
They live for Disney.
Also, I, okay, my L.A. geography is not flawless, but Disney, getting to Disneyland in Anaheim from the valley must be a pain in the us.
It's a hike.
You have to like traverse all of Los Angeles.
Yeah.
And they go all the time.
Like constantly.
And we learned that Lala is neighbors with Sheena.
Oh, yeah.
She bought a house next to Sheena because their girls are besties.
That is cute.
Summer moon, honey and ocean.
What I am?
Summer is so cute with the little bangs.
Summer?
I don't like to pit babies against babies.
But she's the.
cutest Vanterpump Rules kid.
She's so fucking cute.
She looks like an American girl doll like baby.
You know what?
You know what?
Summer Moon Honey is giving.
She's giving boo from Monster's sake.
That's what it is.
Dylan, I've been trying.
I've been like racking my brain like last night her eating on the little bench.
I was like, I love her.
She's so cute.
Yeah.
No, I feel like the thing with Vanderpump Rules is that since last season was kind of like a little bit of a slog,
even though I think it was, I think people were unnecessarily.
harsh. I feel like from the time that season ended, I wasn't really paying attention to these people
on social media. Like obviously I knew like, oh, Katie and Schwartz are getting divorced. That's
interesting. Whatever, whatever, whatever. But I wasn't watching like Sheena's Instagram stories.
So I haven't been seeing the kids kind of blossom into these little people. And now I'm like,
oh, this is an adorable almost two year old child. Yeah. Like they're like little like people now.
Little Sheena. Wow. Little Shishu. Little Shishu.
She's just running around.
She's so cute.
Okay, we should get into the actual episode of Vanderpump Rules because there is plenty to talk about.
And Andy made a point of saying before this episode aired to clarify that this has not been touched in the edit at all since the Scandival News that broke in the last couple of weeks.
So this episode was locked, loaded, ready to go, hasn't been re-edited.
They haven't, you know, cut, spliced in any new footage.
and I am glad that he made that point before we watched it,
because watching it with that knowledge and mind, it is wild.
The things that these women are noticing and picking up on about Raquel at this trip in Vegas as they go to Havasu,
it is like Katie's red flags are up, Christina's red flags are up, Lala's red flags are up,
all of these women were right on the money.
It was crazy.
It was like witch-like intuition coming from them.
Like they all kind of could see what was coming,
but I don't think they thought the target in mind was going to be Sandoval.
Right.
That's the thing that watching it,
it's like none of them,
it's clear that none of them know what's going on
or what was about to start going on.
The timeline is tricky.
But they know that that is the type of thing that Raquel seems capable.
of. And that is, that's intense. I mean, Raquel clearly feels like these girls who maybe were going
to be her kind of new group are suddenly like not in the cards as friends for her.
They're not picking up what she's putting down. Six months later, good call. You know, they were all right.
And, you know, for, for Raquel to be saying, oh, I haven't been on many girls trips. It's like, yeah, I can see you
Why? She doesn't strike me as somebody who probably has a lot of long-lasting female friendships.
No, I guess. She definitely doesn't have a long-lasting friendships with girls. Maybe that comes from
like her pageant background. Like she's always kind of had to maybe like fight with the girls.
But, um, wow. Wow. I did. Dylan, I had to tell you, I had to laugh a little bit because like what Andy and
and everybody were like promoting this episode
they were like look closely
you know and I'm like they're like
just coming right out and saying like what they're
thinking like it's pretty blatant
like it was pretty like on the money
I didn't have to look close
you did not have to go through this episode with a fine
tooth comb to draw the parallels between
what's happening right now like I
appreciate it was a great episode
but it is it's not subtle
you know
no Katie was like she wants to fuck men
that are in relationships it's like oh okay
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Also, can we talk about Christina Kelly?
because I was so, it seemed so random to find out that she was going to be like back back this season.
Because really, this is the most she has ever been on the show.
I mean, she was in the margins a lot in the past.
And maybe I don't, I can't even remember if she was ever technically a friend of.
But I don't think she ever had a confessional before this season.
I don't think she ever.
I don't think she was ever going on a.
trip unless it was like for someone's wedding or something like she wasn't really getting she wasn't
going to like cast events no she was just doing like one-on-one lunches with stasi so when i found out that
she was going to be like full friend of had a cast photo this season i was like okay what's that about
like i guess katie just like kind of needs a friend but i am so glad that she was there on this girl's
trip because her insights about rickle and i mean really about everything but specifically rickette
in this instance are like 100% spot on and like also very funny.
Very funny.
I loved that it was her that went into Raquel's room to get the makeup bag or the skincare
bag and walked in and Raquel was like twirling and there was galaxy lights.
You know, it was like the northern lights.
And she was like, you guys, I just went in her room and she was up to something.
She was like, it was crazy.
Right. The fact that she packed that those lights and that's like that's not like one little night light. That's like a whole. It's a whole system. She brought that to Vegas. She's like basically blacked out and still takes the time to plug that in when she gets to her hotel room. It's turning on the music, is dancing around, is living her, you know, Taylor Swift fantasy as Lala, I think probably correctly calls out. And like the fact that they, these three women in the bed just.
They're like the witches in Macbeth.
They cannot resist talking shit.
And Raquel is like Lady Macbeth lurking behind the door except for Lady Macbeth has a spine.
Raquel, meanwhile, is just like eavesdropping.
She's like, I never knew that these girls were going to do this.
I thought they were going to be my friends.
And it's like, girl.
Here's the thing, Dylan.
I have to be honest, for a brief moment last night, I did feel bad for Raquel.
I knew you were going to say that.
For like a second, I was like, this poor girl was brought on this girl's trip.
Because before this, like, none of them knew that she was fucking Sandoval.
None of them knew that she was.
And then, like, I just felt kind of sorry for her.
And then I like quickly remembered.
I'm like, no, no, no, no.
She was part of like a diabolical plan.
I had a moment to in the car.
Oh, my God.
When they were driving from Vegas to Have a Sue.
And Raquel was essentially having a panic attack.
I felt for her in that.
moment because this situation like I don't think you know obviously I don't agree with her larger actions
but in that situation I'm like oh that sucks that you're on this road trip with people that you know
have been talking about you behind your back and you don't know how to address it and then you're
also like I mean having a panic attack it's not like a character flaw so I I did feel for her in
that moment but then it's like the the larger behavior surrounding it's like okay well you're
not making me continue to feel bad for you. Yeah, it was just really crazy because it's like,
if she didn't have this seven month long affair with Tom Sandoval, we all would be like riding for her
right now. Like we would be like, wow, this is a sad broken girl. Like she's, something is going on
with Raquel. Everyone knows this. She's drinking a lot. And there was like this little moment that
really stuck out to me that was really, really sad is that when she was like about to have her
panic attack in the car, she had like in a whole like a skate plan to get away from James.
And I was like, that speaks to a much larger issue. And that's really fucking sad. And then she
started having a panic attack. And I thought the girls were so sweet with her. Like Christina
Kelly was being so nice. I was like Christina Kelly's going to be a great mom. That did make me,
that kind of made me feel good about enjoying the shit talk.
so much that the fact that these girls obviously they're not like besties with
Raquel but in that moment where she actually needed them to be there for her they still were
so so then when they're on the bed the night before and they're laughing about her you know
glowy lights they don't you know they don't wish ill on her in that moment at least they just
are kind of you know she's acting up and they're having thoughts about it and also she just said
something pretty shitty to Lala, which we haven't talked about yet, this comment that was in the
preview of, you know, Lala making the observation that she wouldn't trust her man around Raquel
if she had had a few too many drinks and Raquel being like, well, you don't have a man, Lala.
I know.
Christina Kelly was a gas.
Rekal.
And their barefoot dreams blanket.
Like, just shook.
And Rikov was like eating that chicken.
that Katie told me I can't put boil in the microwave.
Raquel mixing.
Wait, the fact, she didn't ask before taking everyone's leftovers?
No, I don't think.
That is diabolical.
Diabolical and speaks to a much larger problem.
She's not good at sharing.
No, we know that.
But, wow.
It was a moment.
And, you know, Charlie, Charlie made her mark on this episode.
Charlie made her mark.
I kind of forgot that Charlie was on the show this season until she pops up in the kitchen at Havasu.
I like Charlie.
I think she was kind of in a weird position on this trip where like what else was she really there for but to defend Raquel?
I know.
That was tough.
And on Twitter she has addressed that.
Like she feels kind of dumb about some of the decisions she made now.
But in the moment, I do think she was like in the rest.
Right. Yeah. I agree. I think it's one of those things where basically everything about this season from here on out, it's going to be really tough to watch because we have the hindsight now.
Not tough to watch, but it's like hard to keep in mind that these people were operating in a completely different frame of mind than we are watching it. And they're, you know, they're watching these episodes now too being like, wow, well, fuck, I didn't know that.
So it's not like they're trying to be any certain way.
They just like, you can only act on the information that you have at the time, which, yeah, it's tough.
But so I like that Charlie and Raquel's exit plan of Havasu was like partially based on Raquel feeling uncomfortable there, but also partially based on them wanting to hang out with Schwartz and Sheena.
Well, it's like, just go home.
If you want to leave, just go home.
Don't be like, well, there's a guy's night in L.A. tonight.
So I want to go to that.
I mean, the dinner with Lala and Raquel was so fascinating to watch.
Like, to have Raquel, like, literally look at Lala and be like, well, you also, like, were fucking a married guy.
Like, hmm.
I don't know if we can really, like, come for me right now.
Like, what do you think about all of that?
It's really tricky.
I think because the Raquel and Tom stuff is so fresh, there is kind of that gut reaction to just be like, well, fuck, fuck Raquel.
Like everything she says is just like, you know, she's backstabber, whatever.
Yeah.
I do think Lala sometimes could use a little bit of putting in her place.
I think Lala talks an extremely big game.
And there definitely are situations in which she is hypocritical or she has sort of a.
selective memory and certainly Lala has not been an angel with no flaws in her time on this show.
But I do think Rakel is sort of trying to deflect a little bit because she clearly does feel
uncomfortable with the way these girls are sort of viewing her.
And so I think she kind of is like looking for any little stick to throw at Lala.
and, you know, it's kind of neither here nor there to me.
I do think, you know, Lala hooking up with James was six years ago.
Lala getting with Randall while he was married was even, you know, maybe also six years ago.
I don't know the timeline.
But it's one of those things where it's like, let's just focus on what we're talking about right now.
Yeah.
Lala's ego can be a separate issue.
Yeah, Lala's ego, I mean, if, Dylan, I have to tell you, if someone ever talked to me the way that
talks to people sometimes, I would like to start laughing.
Like, it's so cringe to me.
Like, if someone was talking to me like that, I don't know what I would do.
I wouldn't like snap or anything.
I just would be like, you're really fucking embarrassing.
Like, the way that she like gets all, like, she like puffs her chest up and like talks about like my man.
Like, I'm like, can you chill the fuck out?
Let's get it popping daddy.
Like the like gangster Lala persona persona persona.
is objectively really funny in a way that it's like laughing at her, not with her.
Yeah.
Like, did she think like we're all like, yes, girl?
Like, no, it's so cringe.
Like, send it to Daryl.
Yeah, it's funny, but it's funny because it's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
And I mean, Charlie's confessional where she was like, well, I mean, you were in a mansion
and now you're in an apartment.
I was like, oh, my God, Charlie is savage.
No, Charlie, when she said, fuck.
that lip balm girl in her dry ass hair.
I was like, I really screamed.
I literally wrote in a quote in my notes.
I said, all I know about Christina is that she used to work at sir and now she sells
lip balm for a living.
And I believe she also made a comment like who's buying it.
Like, not me.
I have.
You have?
I have purchased the Christina Kelly lip balm.
How is it?
I really liked it.
It was a, I think I've spoken about this on the podcast.
It's a, it was a deep quarantine purchase.
where I was like, what can I do?
I need to feel something.
I need any boost of excitement, any package in the mail.
And I bought like two, I think I bought a couple of her lip bombs.
They were nice.
They're very like natural feelings, I don't know.
I'm like obsessed with her.
Right?
Like I would buy it again.
I know.
I haven't, but I might.
Yeah, I mean, Charlie is one of those people where I think she's on the show just the right amount this season.
I don't need, we don't need to follow.
her, we don't need to follow her
personal life. No, we tried that last year.
trajectory, but I do
think she and Christina are both
like great commentary
givers this season. That's what it is.
Like she gives really great commentary
and I think that she
would be the perfect person to kind of like
humble Lala a little bit if Lala
ever tried to really come at her, you know?
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What do you think about Sheena sort of taking Schwartz under her wing even more so in this episode?
Dylan, it's so fucking weird.
Like, what is, why is she inserting herself in their divorce so much?
I don't understand it.
He is grown.
He doesn't need a stylist to come in.
And when the stylist was trying to maneuver her little rack around all of his boxes and
water drugs. I was like, can we tackle that problem first?
Also, like, Schwartz's whole storyline this season is about how he's going broke over this
restaurant that isn't opening. And it's like, what we don't need right now is a full
closet makeover that you have to pay for. And even he's probably like, what the fuck
am I doing right now? Like, and Sheena's just like, I just don't like how much Sheena's just
making their divorce like her problem. I'm like, we got to get that Schwartz back. We got it,
We got to get it popping daddy.
Yeah.
I'm like Schwartz was like always, he's always going to be barefoot.
He's always going to be in green pants.
You know, he's always going to be kind of a loosey-goosey guy.
He's never going to like be dressed up.
Like that's not his vibe.
Right.
The stylist thing is one thing.
And then the fact that Sheena basically like plans a guy's night that she's going to take him out on.
And it's like, why are you the one?
Why are you doing this?
Schwartz has friends.
I know. And she's like, do you see how many people are here for Schwartz? Not that many people are here for Katie. I was like, what is your fucking problem with Katie?
Yeah. I don't understand. Katie called you a tool. Get over it. She acts like that's like the worst thing anyone could ever. I'm not a clown. I'm not a clown. I'm like, you are. And that's okay. That's why we love you. I'm curious to see at the reunion provided Sheena is able to attend whether this Gandival's situation or, you are. I'm curious to see at the reunion, provided sheena is able to attend. Whether this Gandival's situation or,
maybe something that happens later on this season that we haven't seen yet, whether Sheena and
Katie are in a better place now.
Well, and watch what happens live.
You know, I think they're putting a lot aside to be there for Ariana.
But I don't think Katie will ever really fuck with Sheena.
Like, I just think there will always be something to kind of keep them at a distance and, you know,
to have Sheena cry and say, like, it really hurt my feelings when she said she wanted to watch
my world burn. I have OCD. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, stop. I actually think it is
sort of similar to in Miami, which is a good segue, I guess, how when the Lisa and Lenny stuff broke
earlier this season, everybody kind of dropped what they were worried about and kind of just, you know,
circled up around Lisa. And then that lasted for as long as it lasted. And then, you know, later in by the
end of the season. You have Larsa and Nicole screaming at each other and Adriana and Alexia screaming
at each other. And this reunion is just a lot of yelling. There's a lot of yelling happening.
A lot of yelling. Andy, I thought, was going to combust. Like, he was losing his patience.
When he called Larson, asshole, I kind of was living for that. I was like, okay, Andy. Like,
not very professional. Not very, you know, bot. Like, he's very, very, very. Like, he's very, very
biased clearly on like what he thinks but um i enjoyed it i love miami i remember after um at the vma's when
conier interrupted taylor all those years ago there was like Obama got caught on a hot mic saying
that conya west was a jackass and it was like this whole thing of like that's not very like
presidential of him to be like saying jackass and it's like yeah but he's right yeah like
it was an asshole thing to say for larsa to mention
wedlock, like, about little gray gray.
Well, I also think a big through line in this episode of the reunion for me was just how
Larsa is fundamentally unable to see things in any way other than the very specific reality
that she has crafted in her mind of how things are.
Like, Larsa is somebody who I think 100% believes her own bullshit.
and it's sort of fascinating to watch her just be so closed off to any kind of outside perspective,
even about her relationship with Marcus, where it's like, Andy is bending over backwards to be like,
don't you think that even there's just, it's a little bit wild that your husband had this,
thing with Michael Jordan and like Larsa like the answer to Larsa is no it's not wild that's just
she doesn't care she's like I'm in love I'm happy like please stop and he was like what if Michael Jordan's
ex-wife started dating Scotty Pippin Jr how would you feel she's like I wouldn't care if he's happy
who cares I'm like if my son is happy that's the issue and it's like now I did message you before
we got on and I did say like I'm obsessed with Larson Marie because she's a house
housewife who thoroughly enjoys being a housewife.
And she, like you said, she believes her own bullshit.
There's like a level of delusion with her that I just really enjoy.
And I also just like think she just brings things out of people that I love, like, I love to watch the chaos that she just creates.
Right.
I find it funny.
Nobody else on this show, maybe Marisol a little bit, but like nobody else is getting Nicole heated like that.
No.
Like, no one can make Dr. Nicole get mad like Larsa.
And the thing with Larsa, too, is that she's the type of housewife that is like, we are on a show.
Things are going to come out about you.
Whether how they come out is not, not my issue, even if it's me doing it.
Like, she's just like.
And he's like, well, they're especially likely to come out if you say them on camera.
And she's like.
She's like, I tried to call her.
Julie was like once and then Lars was like yeah but then I saw you so like why wouldn't I just say it then I was like okay I guess digging into like the semantics of everything she says she's like Nicole Nicole Nicole Nicole she's like I didn't say you slept with the doctors at the hospital I said you slept with every doctor at the hospital she said I heard you slept with every doctor at the hospital I heard it a week ago I didn't say it happened a week ago I
heard it a week ago that you made out with a guy and like blah blah blah blah blah like she like in her
mind she has just come to a conclusion of how all of these things are justifiable and so it's like
the the only apology that you're getting is like oh yeah um i guess like i guess i wouldn't have said
this thing about like uh you know like you're she's not the housewife for you if you want
somebody who is really going to, like, grow a lot and learn from their mistakes.
But she is, she's fun to watch.
The most crazy moment, which I posted about and you also did message me about, is when
Nicole accuses Larsa of making a fake account on Instagram to bully her.
And Larsa says, I've never made a fake account.
I have real jobs.
You don't have a real job.
You just put people to sleep.
This woman, if you are somehow unaware,
is a medical doctor, an anesthesiologist, who Julia reveals literally was Martina's anesthesiologist for her cancer surgery.
Yeah.
I mean, at first I thought I was hearing things.
I was like, did she just see Nicole doesn't have a real job?
Like, I feel like there's things you can come at Dr. Nicole about that like, I don't know.
But that is not one of them.
You can't be like, my jewelry line larceny is a real job.
I take pictures of my toes.
That's a real job.
What you do in a hospital that you had to go to school for is just not real.
You put people to sleep.
I'm like, that's like a very serious thing.
Right.
It was crazy.
They're not even like lame doctors.
They're like important doctors.
They're like in the OR making sure nothing goes wrong.
Right.
Like they're the ones like while you're under make sure like you don't wake up.
up will your heart's on the table.
Yeah.
I'm obsessed.
I do love that our two housewives thus far that have been medical doctors have both
been anesthesiologists, Tiffany Moon and Nicole.
Mm-hmm.
I kind of love that.
I do too.
There's a sisterhood.
A sisterhood.
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What did you think about Alexia and Adriana fighting in the back in their rooms?
I think Alexia is not doing herself any favors as we come to the end.
end of this season.
I like Alexia.
Like I going in like last season, I thought she had a really great season.
Obviously she was going through a lot and she got a lot of sympathy from fans.
I think she, you know, probably benefited from that in the, in just in terms of how people
were receptive of her.
But this season, she just kind of has this pattern of really digging in her heels on
things that I think are not that good of a look for her.
And with Adriana, it's a little different because the thing that Adriana said in the Bahamas
about Frankie was so wildly uncalled for.
And I think it was totally understandable that Alexia needed some time and wasn't kind of
just immediately like, okay, you said you're sorry, move on, we're good.
But we're at the reunion.
And Adriana is like, I want to talk.
talk to you and she's like, I'm not ready to hear that. And it's like, Alexia, respectfully,
it's been several months. We're here at the reunion where the whole point is, this is the time to
talk about it. And if you don't want to be friends with Adriana, that is totally okay. But to still
be kind of in this, she's coming from a place of no, absolutely not, before even hearing anything
that Adriana has to say.
And I think it's
it's a strategy
that I wouldn't have recommended
just because I think if she had come
in a little bit more like
I'm willing to hear you out
but I'm not going to promise
that I'll forgive you or that I'll be good
with you. At the very least, they would
have been able to have a quiet moment
of
this is what I want to say to you.
Yeah. And I mean, that's what Julie was
trying to say. Right. Meanwhile, it's
lunch and they're yelling from the rooms next door, calling each other evil.
And, you know, certainly, Adriana is, you know, not innocent in this.
But it's like, damn, we're really, we have backslade even further.
Yeah.
I mean, when they start talking about Herman and all of that, I'm like, oh, my God.
I'm like, this is giving Teresa vibes where Alexia is just digging her heels in and
she's not budging.
And then it gets frustrating to watch.
And I like Alexia a lot.
I find her really fun to watch.
Like, I really enjoy it.
I find all of the women really fun to watch.
This is like such a crazy, amazing cast.
But I'm like, you have to move forward.
That is like the point of these shows.
Like, we can't keep rehashing the same fights.
I would love to put a moratorium on Housewives' arguments about things that happen at funerals.
Because in the last, in the most recent seasons of.
Miami, Salt Lake City, and Potomac.
We have had arguments spread about who attended a funeral, who texted to say they were
sorry or who missed a funeral.
Adriana, nothing even happened at the funeral.
She told Alexia after the fact that somebody said at the memorial.
You know, like these things, to me, it's like so dark.
It never ends well.
It's not something that's worth arguing about on a platform like this.
to me that's just like stupid but also it's like what are we really doing here like we have to be
there has to be some kind of forward momentum and with people like julia gertie even larsa lisa lisa
marisol to an extent like i feel like there is room for that forward momentum and i think
the thing that i'm struggling with about alexia a little bit is that she doesn't seem to be really
participating in a forward moving storyline.
And that is tough and thinking, I mean, I'm assuming that nobody is getting fired going into
next season because God knows they had.
I can't picture that.
Yeah, I mean, they had a great season.
It's a great cast.
But it's like, if we get into next season and Alexia isn't coming with even a little bit of
receptive energy toward Adriana, it's going to start to get tough.
Yeah, it's going to get tough.
I also would love to see more Kiki.
I want to know more about Kiki's life.
What's going on over there?
You know, like she goes to these parties.
She has a daughter.
Like, I'm very, I'm very obsessed with Kiki as well.
Yeah.
I find her so stunning.
Kiki is great.
I do hope we get, you know, this season she was.
I don't need her full time.
She was obviously around more this season than last year, but she still didn't get the kind of
Adriana Marisol friend treatment where they're barely even like not full time.
Right.
So I'm happy she's at the reunion.
Last season she was not at the reunion.
This was the first time she ever met Andy, which I thought was crazy.
I know.
But yeah, I love Kiki.
Talking about the Burger King when she's like, you know, there was a time when all I could afford was a whopper.
And I'm like, see, that's what I want to hear about.
That's what I want to hear.
I need before they were housewives.
Yeah.
About Kiki.
About any of the Miami girls, honestly.
Also, saying that she's been like invited to Lenny and Lisa's Halloween party for years, just because
she was like a model in Miami Beach and you know saying that she dates in Miami but a lot of the guys
she meets her like Lenny it's like she has a lot of thoughts about Lenny which I can't want to hear more
about that she's like yeah he's been cheating on you with models for years right I was like oh I'm curious
in the preview it's tough to tell because of how they've edited it like what energy Lisa is going to
respond to that with I hope that Lisa isn't like mad about that because honestly at this point it's like
the more information you have, the better
stuff you could use against him.
Yeah, 100% in your divorce
with that pig.
Ugh, God.
I can't believe they did a Halloween party together.
That was shocking.
She was like, well, he loves his Halloween parties.
I'm like, so then why are you there?
Like, I was confused by that.
Did you understand what she was saying?
I don't see.
The thing is like, I don't know enough about the, like,
the way to handle separation and divorce
to like give advice on this, obviously.
I was like, you don't.
But in the state of Florida.
But I, it is weird.
Like sometimes Lisa seems like she can't leave the house because Lenny's going to do like a hostile takeover.
But then she can like fly to New York for the reunion and stuff.
I'm not like shaming her for that.
I just don't understand like the, the how the actual dynamics work.
Because her explanation was kind of like, well, you know, like I couldn't tell him no because he's still in the house and, you know, whatever.
And it's like, okay, then like go see him.
movie or something. Like, you don't have to be there. Not a dinner. Yeah, I don't know. It was very weird.
600 people. That is insane. That's crazy. I thought it, I thought it was going to be like 200 and I would
say that's a lot. Right. 600 people. Oh, God. Also, some of the little things, she like still can't quite get.
Because Andy's like, so you rent your house out on the weekends. And she's like, no, well, no. Not every
weekend. And it's like, okay. I know. And he's like, what's wrong with a mortgage?
He's like, do you understand that that's not a bad thing?
Right.
Her kind of backtracking and saying that she never thought it was a bad thing to have a mortgage, it's like, oh, you.
Lisa.
Lisa.
We are all team Lisa in this fight, but it's like, girl, girl.
We all watched the show.
I also thought it was kind of strange and I was surprised that her boyfriend came with her.
Oh, yeah, Jody.
Jody.
Yes.
He's really cute.
Mm-hmm.
Well, I'll see his money.
Yeah, I feel like he's loaded.
I went to the website of his company.
And it's one of those things where it's like, I don't understand what any of the words mean because it's very like, you know, we're, it's a software that gets you more deals and creates whatever.
It's like very back end.
No coupon cabin.
Right.
Like what's my discount?
Right.
It's very like back end company software to like.
make you more money and I just don't know anything about that.
Sounds.
But it seems like,
it seems like he does well for himself and I love that for Lisa.
Me too.
I would rather her be like in the tech space than in the,
uh,
boob job space.
Yeah,
especially because Lenny also did Kim Zolteke Bureman's boobs and
that's a wild,
wild connection.
No comment.
No comment.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I don't think this is a long lasting like love for her.
I think this is a great like rebound.
Okay.
I think Marcus and Larsa, that's like a real relationship.
Well, I don't think Larsa would have let it get to the point that it's at where we're talking about it on the reunion if it wasn't, if she wasn't in love.
Well, she kept saying he was her friend.
He was probably like, can you fucking stop?
Yeah.
Like, I'm not your friend.
Right, like, he's literally like following you around on your like entire press trip.
Yeah.
I've met him. He seems nice.
I will say this is a flashback to last week's reunion.
I did have a good laugh and Adriano was like, it's not the Lebanese butt lift.
It's the Brazilian butt lift.
Basically insinuating that she's cultural appropriationning the buttlifts.
And I had a good laugh about that.
That was so funny.
These women are so fucking funny.
They're so funny.
I mean, Adriana is the kind of person where she,
She is dead wrong about so many things.
Oh, my God.
But the way she delivers her messages is just justice.
Oh, she's on a full, she's on another level of delusion, in my opinion.
Like she operates in a strange way as well, like Larsa.
Yeah.
I think she is a little less, a little less calculated in the sense that, you know,
Larsa, like what comes out of her mouth is very careful.
and like destructive, but in a way that she has, like, chosen.
Whereas I think Adriana's a little more reactive, a little more fly off the handle.
Yeah.
But it still is like, oh, I mean, when she told Marisol, like, your ex-boyfriend told me that he never loved you.
I was like, what?
Like, you think that's going to help her?
It was so crazy.
Right.
It's like that's in the same category of telling Alexia that at Herman's funeral, somebody was like, he died having sex with him.
the man, by the way.
I know. She's like, wait, what?
Oh, it was so good.
I love this.
This is a rare reunion where part two has finished and I'm like, I'm glad we have one more
part.
Me too.
For some reason, I forgot we were getting three parts.
So by the end, when they were wrapping up talking about like, when they were talking
to Kiki, I was like, oh, like, this is how it ends.
And then I realized I was like, oh, we get next week too.
Well, we really, on the couches, they really have not talked about the Adriana and
Alexia stuff yet. That was the big, that's the big thing that I think episode three I'm assuming
is going to be largely focused on. I mean, yeah, it's nice. And I will be, I will be there with
my popcorn ready. I will be seated. Exactly. 7 a.m. Thursday morning. Yeah, exactly. Like on Peacock,
like how early can I get up to watch this? Sam, thank you so much for joining me. Always a pleasure.
Thank you for having me. Tell everyone where they can listen to you, follow you,
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