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Episode Date: April 3, 2024

Dylan sits down to record one last episode before heading off on vacation, and the happy hour vibes are strong as he dishes on Jill Zarin’s nightmare appearance on Below Deck. We need more Bravolebs on boats! Then, he turns his attention to this week’s Vanderpump Rules, where we finally get a Godzilla vs. Kong-style smackdown with Tom and Ariana. Things are predictably bleak on that front, but there’s some progress between Schwartz and Katie, and if all else fails, at least Assistant Anne will hopefully get some job offers out of this cursed season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer And I'm coming to you from a very rainy Tuesday evening in New York City You'll be getting this on Wednesday I'm headed out of town Tomorrow today

What is time On a little getaway So I'm recording this Wednesday episode a little bit early. And of course, that means that we're doing a little bit of evening mention at all, which is not something I do very often. So, you know, it's, it's just you and me and us, all of us friends. And if things, if things go a little sideways, you know, that's just what it is. It's kind of like, it's like a mention at all happy hour. I have not been drinking just to clarify. But, you know, maybe, maybe it'll feel like I have. Wouldn't that be fun? I don't know. Anyway, I'm

I'm literally sitting in my room right now, speaking into a microphone while I think about how I don't want to get my suitcase out of the top of my closet. So anyway, we are here to talk about Vanderpump rules. Thankfully, I was able to watch the episode a little bit early so I can still recap this week's new Vanderpump for you. Not going to get to the valley tonight, to be honest. I think this week's episode might be a wee bit tricky. I haven't watched it yet, but that's the inkling I get. But anyway, we're going to talk Vanderpump Rules, and we also are going to talk a little bit about Below Deck because I quite frankly have not been keeping up on this season of Below Deck, but you know what came across my desk today is the piece of information that one of the current charter guests on Below Deck is none other than Mrs. Jill Zerran. Now, it's always funny when they do Bravo Leopardy,

crossovers on below deck because it's fun to think about like, oh, what if they had this person go on below deck? What if they had that person come on below deck? But a lot of the time I don't think it's actually that planned out. Like Jill Zeran is not somebody that they just have like on speed dial from Bravo right now. She's not even the primary charter guest on this charter, which is maybe a point of contention because I don't think Jill Zeran really has like the ability to not feel like the main character in any given situation. So this is a little different from, I remember a couple years ago

when they did that Below Deck Adventure show in Norway and they had Heather Gay go on the show. Like, that was for them to get press for the new show that they wanted people to watch. That was intentional. I'm sure Heather got that trip for free. I hope she had a great time. I haven't heard much about Below Deck.

adventure since then. Obviously, Captain Kerry, who was on that show, has now been requisitioned to join the flagship franchise. But this is a little different. And what's funny about this is that Bravo's not really promoting that Jill Zarin's going to be on the season. I don't think the, you know, I talked to Fraser earlier in the show. I don't think we really talked about Jill. I don't even know if I knew that Jill was going to be on it. But Jill can't not be Jill, as I was saying, she doesn't have that bone in her body to just be able to kind of fade into the background and enjoy her fucking vacation. So much to my delight, we get a page six headline today. Yacht squawk, quote, absolutely insufferable.

Jill Zeran called out for, quote, rude behavior on below deck. And this article is a like bullet point by bullet point description of all. all of the, quote, insufferable, I'll use their word, things that Jill did on this episode. There's the clip of her asking Fraser why they don't have a bell so she can just like ping him every time she needs something. It is honestly like a work of art. This during the thing, during the trip, one of the things that rub Barbie the wrong way was there demanding to get different shaped ice cubes for her diet coke compared to the rest of the group. Jill said, I don't care about anyone else. My Diet Coke's go into the freezer.

She also made a special request for a makeup mirror before pointing out that she could not find an electrical outlet in the bathroom. She also complained about the fact that the bathrooms weren't stocked with toiletries. This is a direct quote. I want to tell you something else because I've charted a lot of yachts before. Every bathroom is loaded with toothbrushes, tooth base, mouthwash, band-aids, Q-tips. Has anyone ever said that before? I like to complain. I'm sorry.

She requested a bell, she voiced concerns about the food, she suggested that there should be snacks out at all times, and then she told her friend the primary, which, like, who are these women? That's why I have to get involved. I'm a little pushy, but at least you'll be satisfied. She also complained that the food was called, there was no hot sauce readily available. She asked the chef to make her a special meal of chicken pad Thai sushi and crudette.

Why are you requesting chicken pad Thai sushi and crudette. Doesn't crudite seem like a snack starter? Like, you have it out on the table, maybe when you sit down? This is wild. The fact that all of this is from one episode of below deck is sort of shocking. Sort of unbelievable. But at the same time, I wouldn't expect anything else.

And this is why I think we should have more of these kind of like random, like friend of a friend, Bravo Leopardy appearances on below deck. Because they always bring something interesting. I remember a few seasons ago, Alexis Bellino was on below deck with the guy that she was like dating or engaged to like after Jim, but before this weird thing with John Jansen. By the way, speaking of Alexis and John Jansen, did you see that now Shannon said on Jeff Lewis, she suggested that Alexis is sort of behind John suing Shannon for the amount that he paid for her facelift. It's like, I mean, no shit. But also, like, I cannot wait to see this new season of Orange County,

especially now that we are entering this, this sort of strange period of not very much housewives on the air. Orange County, I think, has potential to come back later this year and really sort of, to like snatch the crown in a weird way. Their season last year was so good. And I just think that there's, I think that there's an opportunity there. I think it's going to be good. I think that Orange County is what we need.

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maybe, you know, like all the sailing stuff with Daisy and Gary and Con, like I love that. But it's tough to keep up with. And there are only so many hours in a day. I'm similarly having issues right now deciding what to do about Top Chef this season. I've seen. I've, so enjoyed talking about the last couple seasons of Top Chef and the schedule it's uh it's beating my ass a little bit it's uh it's it's causing problems in my life

I actually would I would love to hear and maybe we'll do a little bit more of a formal like uh you know some like you know a question box on Instagram or something but if you want to leave a five star review and let me know kind of like in this next month or so there's a lot of shifting stuff on the calendar there's some new shows there's some maybe shows that you would consider to be a little bit second tier perhaps or a little bit bubbling under that maybe we'll get a little bit more attention. Maybe we'll have some fun different guests on the show.

This is like a weird, I'm slipping this in halfway through the episode, but let me know if there's stuff that you have a hankering for or something that I've done in the past that you want more of, LMK, respectfully, with a five-star review. Or a DM. I love a DM. We'll chat more. We'll get into it. We'll address this in a more, in a more formal way. But I love to, you know, I'd love to have a two-way street. I'd love to have a conversation. Conversations we will have. But let's talk about Vanderpump rules. This episode in theory is kind of like a crescendo of the season, I think, because we have been through a lot of the, moving the pieces around the board to make sure that the king and the queen, aka Sandoval and Ariana,

not that I'm bestowing a title of honor on Sandoval, but just in terms of the sort of like relative placement within the group, we've spent a lot of time sort of keeping them apart. And people have been on tiptoes and, you know, Ariana and Katie didn't go to Tahoe. And then it's like, okay, if there's this. this, you know, thing happening that Tom's going to be, you know, at hotel, whatever the fuck, Hotel Ziggy.

You know, Tom tries to talk to Ariana for a second. It's crowded. She tells him to fuck off. He goes away. It's been tense. But there hasn't been this kind of like battle royale moment. There hasn't been the Godzilla versus Kong final battle. We've had those little early tussles.

We've had the awkward moments in the house. We've had the texts via Ann. But this was the week that we got Godzilla versus Colin. This was the week that we got, you know, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. I just watched women's basketball last night. That was new for me. I don't know. I have lots of different experiences here.

I'm referencing Godzilla. I'm referencing women's college basketball. This was kind of the big moment that we were, gearing up for a little bit. And it was hard to watch. I know I'm getting ahead of myself in this episode a little bit, but this, at James's house,

this water tasting, seeing Ariana and Sandoval go at it, it's not fun to me. And I don't actually mean that in a way that, like, I think it's something I don't want to see. But it's not like when, say, like Jen Aiden and Margaret are yelling at each other. And it's like, oh, my God, listen to them, yell, like, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Tom and Ariana having this fight about her calling him a dog murderer, and then, you know, going into the specifics of who paid for what. And it's, it feels it's, it's bleak. I don't even know how else to say it. And of course there are moments of lightness. You know, earlier in the episode when Tom is in the gym and Anne shows up in her corporate job interview outfit with a printed out resume,

hoping that she can, you know, working girl her way into a job with Ariana. it's funny, but then also it's like, girl, get out of there. I think it is shocking and upsetting that Anne is not at the reunion this season. We got the reunion looks and off. Wolf. Joe, get thee to Taylor. Get thee to a stylist. Jesus Christ. But I think we need to hear from Anne more than almost to anyone else. Brock, stay home. I want to hear from Anne. If there's only, there's only 11 spots on the couch or whatever, fuck it, Lisa doesn't have to come. I need to hear from Anne. Because we get this whole scene with Ariana and Anne. And Ariana is like, look, I would love to work with you. This all

sounds great. But, you know, maybe, maybe I'm not like right now. And Anne's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, sounds good. then we hear after the fact that then Tom like bitched out Anne because he was upstairs eavesdropping while she was talking to Ariana and like look should Tom be yelling at Anne because she isn't like thrilled to be working for him and like picking up his three day old dirty underwear no and any same person would hate that but I also feel like it's weird this situation. And I just want Anne to like go, go like, find a home. Go, go somewhere where you can thrive. Because I think Anne has potential. And I want to see her meet that potential. And I don't think that potential is going to be reached in this, you know, sad House of Horrors in Valley Village. But anyway, we get a little bit of update on the Schwartz and Katie. situation. You know, Schwartz is telling Sheena and Brock that he thinks that Katie fucking Max is

hypocritical after she was mad that he was, you know, making it with Sheena, being with her friends. And Brock, of course, is like reminding them that Katie hated Sheena a year ago. So now she's like hurt that she made out with Rex. But then it's like, oh my God, I just can't like, I don't like these people talk anymore. Should I care more about the situation with Katie and Max Boyans? I think I've talked about this. last week, but it's just like, I can't care about Max Boyens in 2024. Life is too short. That name barely exists to me anymore. And now we're getting a two-episode arc of Tom having to talk to Katie about it in the backyard while everybody else is, you know,

screaming about dog murdering. They're like, yeah, come on, don't do that. Katie, she's like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it was like an extreme place of fuck it mentality, but like, I mean, I think this show is, I think it's for the best when Katie and Schwartz are okay with each other. I think they're kind of the total opposite of Sandoval and Ariana at this point where like, they should be able to coexist. And if one of them has to apologize for something or they need to like be mad at each other for a little bit, that's fine. but I think that they can have like sort of a neutral place with each other. I think the problem that we're really bumping up against at this point in the season and Lala's water tasting, God bless.

Every time I say that, I feel like my soul dies a little bit because I thought they were going to be tasting like different like flavored waters. And like a trashy piece of shit that I was like, oh, they're going to have like some like LaCroix. They're going to have like some, I don't know, like. sparkling ice or something. Nope, they're just tasting plain soda water that's like aged a thousand years and tastes like come when you shake it up. I don't like it looks like milk. Like what are we doing here? Everybody else, but Lala seems to also agree with me. Then they're just like, okay, it's water. What? When Lala told me that she was a flavored water connoisseur and I told me I'd be like said on the show. I was like, okay, so you're like,

I really like the pompal moose LaCroix because I like grapefruit. Cool. Good enough for me. No, it's literally just water. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, Frame and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more.

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Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope it's time for a little in-person spring treat it's time for a trip to Ross work your magic I guess it's for the best that this is just like a little

you know backyard barbecue situation at James and Alley's like if this was a whole event I would really be side-dying la la la but like whatever we gotta do something but anyway the pizza comes Tom's like chasing down the street after him because he forgets the ranch

it's like get a fucking life She's like, I hope there's ranch. It's like, where's a ranch? Maybe this is a hot take. I'm not like a ranch person. It just doesn't quite do it for me. Like the tanginess is just kind of like, it leaves a bad taste of my mouth in a literal sense.

But also it's like the thing of when people act like ranch is a personality trait. It's a little played out. that's like Joe energy. You know, we don't get any Joe this episode and I kind of miss her. I feel like Joe is that she's like your friend's weird friend that you don't have any interest in being friends with, but you always secretly kind of enjoy it when your friend brings her around because it's like a source of entertainment in sort of a morbid way. And I realize as I'm saying it that that probably makes. we sound like a terrible person, but also, you know what I mean.

She's like the friend that you are like nice to for the most part, but then like in the group chat, you kind of like talk shit about her. Whatever. I hope Joe's well. I hope she's not reading the comments about her interview, about her reunion outfit. But yeah, I mean, this, this Sandoval and Ariana thing, it's just at the point where, I, you know, I don't know, don't, I don't think that there's anything to be gained. And Tom is acting like he wants to get to a better place with her, but then none of his actual behavior when he is with her suggests that he really is serious about that because, like, even if Ariana is not being necessarily like cooperative in moving forward with him, she's

established that it's because she doesn't want to move forward with him. And the problem to me watching it is that Tom cannot or will not just point blank accept that Ariana is not going to move forward with him. I know that there's logistic stuff with the house. I know that there's things they need to figure out. And look, is it a pain in the ass that she won't respond to an email and is saying my lawyer's going to do it? And yeah, it's going to take two months, but they're going to send a thought out response. Is that making Tom's life harder? Yes.

And he's allowed to be annoyed about that. But then he should just be annoyed about that and not also frame it in a thing of like, but why won't you have a conversation with me? It's like, she's set the boundaries and unfortunately, that's where it's going to be. There's the whole thing with the dog. The thing with the dog is just, it's like obviously if

what Ariana is saying is true it's super gross and upsetting but then also it's like I don't need to hear them argue about it because I don't need like Tom's version of events of why the dog got in the room with the chewing up the satay skewers and had to go to the bed

he's like I love that Tom's retelling of it is like yeah so then I don't know the door got left open. It was either me or Anne, I guess. It's like the passive voice of like, the door got left open versus like I left the door open. But then also the, the putting in like, it was either me or Anne. It's like, yeah, I bet it was Anne. I bet it was Anne. Right. Like, of course it was Anne. No. Because if it was Anne, Tom would know it was Anne and he would say it wasn't me. Right? Like that's, that's the like, that's the giveaway to me is like, he's like,

it could have been me or Anne, which means it probably was me, because if he actually thought it might have been Anne, he would blame Anne. And that's why Ann wants to work for Ariana, but that's why Anne really shouldn't work for either of them. Because Anne deserves better. She needs better. Please, somebody offer Anne a job. If this season has been airing and Anne doesn't have like job offers flooding her inbox, get this girl get this girl benefits. I know, I know for, for damn sure that Tom Sanival's not giving her health insurance. And if he is, I'm sorry, allegedly, I don't know anything.

But yeah, the dog thing is tough. I mean, Tom also says that she hasn't emptied her cat's litter box in two years. And then they literally show footage of her doing it a week ago. So it's like, what is the truth? What is the truth? It's just, it's tough. Then she is having a beach day. You know, at the water thing, it's like Tom's,

Storms out. Lala is still telling Ariana she needs to have a productive conversation with Sandoval. The Lala and Shina of it all is a little bit like I don't begrudge what they're doing from a reality TV production standpoint because I think that unfortunately somebody has to do it. But at the same time, it is making them look kind of like assholes. Lala in particular. but Sheena just kind of has her like classic flip-flopper edit. That's like the Sheena-Shay Memorial flip-flopper edit. At this point like it's tough. But then she not, to her credit, she's having the speech day,

she tells Brock that they need to un-invite Tom. Because she's like, after what happened with the pizza, the yelling about the dog, we can't have been both there. But then like something short circuits, it happened really fast where it's like, okay, so Sheena's like, we can't invite him. and then he's still there and then it goes to shit again. It's like, okay, we were doing so good. But yeah, the beach day, the text between Katie and Ariana, quote,

are we going to Sheena's Beach Day or should we just fake our deaths? That is how we feel about like half of the plans that I attempt. We're like, okay, so I could, I could go to this thing that I already bought a ticket for, or I could pretend that I have smallpox. Can I say I have a cold for the third weekend? Like right now we have allergies. Can I not go to, I literally didn't go to something this past week

because my allergies were bothering me. And that was real. Like it was like a theater event. I was like, I don't want to go like sit in a theater when I'm like sniffling. I also can't breathe through my nose. And also it's like kind of gross. You know, people have like COVID anxiety,

which I don't have COVID, like whatever. But it's like, you know, I was going to be on the train. It was going to be take a long of time to get home. It would be late. This is unimportant. There are a lot of reasons to cancel. But to their credit, I guess, nobody cancels. Everybody makes it to the beach day. There's still some residual friction, I would say, between Tom Schwartz and Katie, particularly when Schwartz says that from a

from a statistical standpoint, he was pretty faithful to Katie. And she's like, wait, what? And he's like, well, I mean, if there's 365 days in a year and she's like, no, no, no, we're not doing this. I think that's kind of like the funny part of the dynamic with Schwartz and Katie is that it's like they're like fine. They're fine. But when it comes down to it, Katie's still like, you motherfucker. We're not in a place where we're joking about the exact ratio of times that you cheated on me per year. Shut the fuck up.

Like Katie will always sort of have like that slight kind of like upper hand on him in a way, I think, which is honestly kind of a fun dynamic. But like, Ariana and Sanobal, it's not going to happen. What I am really curious about is what ends up happening with this disagreement, this dispute of what each of them have paid for. We see Ariana with, I think her name is Lucinda, who did a lot of the furniture for their house. I love Lucinda. I feel like that's such a fun name. It's very like, it's like a little bit of like Disney witchy, but like in a fun way. but they're making like an itemized list of everything that was custom for the house and that she paid for most of it.

But then like, so she says that the pets are hers because she paid for the adoption fees. Sanneval's like, okay, well, if that's true, then the house is mine because I handled like the mortgage and stuff. And she's like, yeah, but I paid for all the furniture. Like, this is very messy. And the fact that, I mean, I guess at this point they had been broken up for a few months. but like all of that stuff matters you know who's going to keep the dog is one thing but like if you're saying like I paid for every utility bill so you don't have a right to xyz like y'all got to figure that shit out and I assume they have to a certain extent now that she's

buying the house but like what's going on what's going on there I don't know we get a little to be continued this is actually probably one of the better episodes of the season and I hope that we kind of have like a good a good run here until the end in these last few episodes, but we'll see how it goes. Thanks for hanging in there with me and my congestion this episode. We'll be back tomorrow, Thursday, with another episode that I am extremely excited about. If you follow me on Instagram, you can see I already posted, but we have Nicola Coglin. You know her from Bridgerton, from Dairy Girls, and she is also a huge Bravo fan. It was truly, truly, truly such a pleasure talking to her. So,

So make sure you're following the show, subscribe to whatever they call it. So you don't miss that. If you have thoughts about what you'd like to see in the next month or so, feel free to send me a DM at Dylan Hafer at Bravo by Betches or a five-star review on Apple Podcast Never Hertz with your, you know, positive feedback. But until next time, thanks for listening and be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Dylan Hafer and Shannon Sassone.

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