Mention It All - The Surprise Scandoval Whistleblower Ft. Taylor Jackson (VPR)

Episode Date: April 20, 2023

Dylan is back with Taylor Jackson for another Vanderpump Rules chat, and they start by saluting Scheana’s beautiful wedding look. From there, things go downhill with rants about Sandoval’s immature behavior, Raquel’s ill-fated feelings on cheating, and the misfortune of Schwartz and Sandy’s. But the MVP of the episode is Ally, who comes in hot with some breaking news about the scandal we’ve been waiting for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and oh boy, am I excited to talk about Vanderpump Rules today? I really missed recapping these last few episodes while I was on vacation. So catching up was a pleasure. And, you know, here to talk about it with me today is none other than Taylor Jackson. Taylor, welcome back to the show.

Thank you so much, Dylan. And I couldn't be more honored to be invited for a Vanderpump recap because when I tell you, my jaw has been on the floor for the past, I don't know, four weeks watching this show, it's been on the floor. And in the midst of it all, I have to say, Sheena's wedding was so lovely. It was just a little salute to Ms. Sheena Marie while we're here before we get into all the the drama and the nastiness. She looked so beautiful.

And when she was, when her veil was whipping in the wind and she was like, you know what, take off the veil. It's okay. It's okay. She looked gorgeous. And her hair, like, I'm going to screenshot that for when and if I ever get married. That's the hair do I want. She looked, everything was honestly picture perfect.

I wish I was invited. It looked very fun. Brock and his friends, hot. Okay, so you're trying to get hooked up with one of Brock's friends. With the friend that Raquel walked down the aisle with, unless Raquel has dibs on that. Joey, yeah, he was hot. Just make sure that he has a better credit score than Brock. That's my one request for you.

Because I don't want you to be like, I know. When they were talking, when they were like, actually, we've been married for a year because Brock's visa was whatever. And we just wanted him to be able to get a green card at the same time. time. And I'm like, I understand that logistically, but there also is a world in which knowing what we know about Brock's past that it's like, Sheena, he needed a green card and you facilitated that for him. Exactly. Whatever. I don't want to be too cynical about Sheena and Brock. They seem like they're doing well. And, you know, we've come a long way in that regard. We have. And I've seen some growth amongst the both of them. But I will definitely have the IRS audit, Joey, to make sure that everything is all set.

there for me, as long as the IRS isn't auditing me. You know what I'm saying? You're like, as someone who did my taxes mere days ago. Did you get those done, by the way? Did you do the taxes? I got them on and I got myself a refund, okay? Okay. Okay. I did mine in February, just saying, if anyone here is listening, I might be interested in, I do, my credit score is excellent, and I did do my taxes in February. So check off those boxes, baby. Mm-hmm. Add that to the hinge profile, Bill.

I do think I wonder who on Vanderpump Rules has the best credit score, aside from, like, Lisa. Ooh, let's think. Definitely none of the Tom's. They are in apparently a million dollar deep in debt from this fucking restaurant. Can't be Tom. I would say, honestly, I'm going to give it to Kate. The only thing, though, is that Katie just went through a divorce. And I don't know.

I mean, I've never gotten divorced. And also, I barely know how credit scores work. So I'm not necessarily the, the, like, guru on who would have a good credit score. I feel like maybe, maybe Lala has a good credit score because for the last few years she was. But she wasn't married. And also, the last few years, she didn't have to pay for anything. Right. Right.

I don't know. or James. James could be somehow good with money, a money man. We don't know. I could see it. He's like, actually, I never spent a dime of I'll see you next Tuesday, money. I'm only, you know. Hey, hey, hey, it is 1122 a.m. on April 20th. And right now, James Kennedy is still top of my list. Okay. We have the time sniff it. If you, if you weren't, if you didn't listen to Taylor's last episode of mentioned at all, I made her give a very specific time step of when she said James Kennedy was a good person. And a month or so later, you're doing okay. I know. I mean, hey, he's up there. Hey, he did have his moments in Mexico where he like maybe punched a stranger in the hotel. But hey, we're reeling it back in.

We're back at Sir. We're lightly maybe slouchaming Raquel for flirting with someone at Sir. But he's done worse. He's done worse. It's growth. Amongst the whole cast growth, except for two people, obviously. We'll get to that. I did love, this episode starts off with Katie going to pick up the dogs at Schwartz's apartment.

And her dismissive energy toward Tom is so delicious to me when he's like, oh, man, Katie, I'm so stressed. We don't have a kitchen staff. And we were supposed to open this week. And I just don't know what I'm going to do. And she's like, okay, bye. Dude, it was bone-chilling in the best way. I said, I am marking this down for the next time I need to be like a cold, stone-cold bitch, like in the best way.

She literally goes like this. He's nearly in tears. Number one, Tom needs to get a handle on his emotions. He's nearly in tears. She goes, oh, must be tough. Bye. That sounds awful. And he also, yeah, that sounds awful.

And then Tom's, like, complaining about it as if he doesn't know what he's. he had just done in Mexico. Yeah, the Tom and Raquel fallout from Mexico is interesting, and it kind of reverberates throughout this episode. And I've seen mixed reactions online. There definitely are people who are kind of Team Schwartz in this, just in the sense that they're broken up. Katie was the one who initiated the divorce.

Tom is an adult. Raquel is an adult. Whatever. You know, Katie doesn't get. get to have an opinion on that. And look, do I think that Tom make, Schwartz, Tom Schwartz specifically, making out with Raquel is like the worst most evil thing that anyone's ever done and he deserves to, you know, wrought and hail for that?

No, like, I don't, I don't think it's like a, the worst sin ever committed on this show, certainly. But I also think that Katie is entitled to her feelings and that it's a complicated situation. and not just that, but that she has made it clear to Tom what this would feel like for her and how she, you know, she's made her feelings clear.

He didn't choose to go along with that. And so she's allowed to be mad at him. He's also allowed to be like, well, fuck her, I don't care. Exactly. It's validated. Right. It's validated. And like little do they know.

This is nothing compared to what, everyone else is about to find out. Well, I think little does Katie know. I don't know if it's little does Schwartz know. Oh, Schwartz know the entire time. Sorry, yeah, but Katie, little does she know, whatever. Schwartz, Schwartz is in cahoots. There's something going, you know, he knows something.

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That's Freedom to Be. Use us directed. I was surprised to see. We're not getting a lot of Charlie this season. She's mainly just kind of like Raquel's friend. But I was impressed with Charlie telling Raquel straight to her face that she thinks making out with Schwartz was disrespectful and that she thought Raquel was better than that. And she notes that when they were in Mexico, it was Katie and Schwartz's anniversary weekend.

And Raquel's like, why many of you thinking about their anniversary? They're divorced, which like fair, but also I was like, Charlie, okay. Good. Good for you. I noted the same thing. Dylan because as soon as that scene started when her and Raquel were taking content pictures.

I was like, I was watching the show with a friend and I was like, oh, here's Charlie like just another Raquel. And then I said, you know what? Take what I just said back after she kind of handed it to Raquel being like, look, I'm still your friend, but what you did was fucked up. I had a lot of respect for her there because in the

other episodes you see Charlie like specifically defending Raquel like in front of La Laa saying, you know, all of this stuff. But I really did gain some more respect for Miss Charlie. And it just goes, and Raquel seemed shocked, too, because this was kind of like Raquel's saving grace, I feel like. Charlie was like her little minion that it would always like agree with her.

And now it's like in Raquel's face like, oh shit. Yeah, Rick, at this point, I mean, even before the Scandival stuff is blowing up, obviously that is a game changer. But at this point in the season, the only person that really is like, dedicated to Raquel is Sheena. Like she doesn't have a lot of people on her team. And going into this season, I would have guessed that Raquel would have had a little more of a redemption arc within the season just because people felt like James treated her so poorly.

And so then you would think there would be a little more sympathy. People would kind of be like, oh, we're like circling around Raquel. But like, I mean, Ariana is nice to her. She like, Sheena rides for her. but like I mean it's it's it's hard to even talk about it though like knowing what we know now it's literally so crazy TV has not been this good like knowing what we know now

watching it it's just like insane and the scene when uh when Raquel is working at sir and Tom and Tom are there and they're talking to Lisa and Raquel comes to take their order which like of course is so staged to begin with it's like why why are we even pretending but Sandval like can't leave Raquel alone. He's like Raquel, Raquel, come sit over here.

Like, comes sit on the booth. And it's like, first of all, she's quote unquote at work. But also it's like, why do you want her to sit in this little bench between the two of you? Like it's weird. So he can touch her, so he can feel her electric energy. I don't know. It gave me, it just, that just gave me the chills watching it because it gives me such an ick. I'm like, ooh, you're disgusting.

And I said this in a TikTok I made the other day that Tom Santa, of all literally reminds me, I don't know if this is reaching the right audience, that this even makes sense, of a little creepy rat in a jazz band. Does that make sense? Can't you see that? What a jazz. Jazz would like to be excluded for this narrative, Taylor. Like this, like a rat with like a fedora and he's like, he's like a sleazy jazz guy. He does. He gets this like, I think maybe it's when he's drinking and then when he's feeling a little like horned up

to use a phrase that makes me uncomfortable but it's like he gets this kind of like shit eating grin that it's like when Lisa's like why are you smiling like that you look like a fucking weirdo and he's like her her her her like yeah he's like they should not be calling you a whore

he's like that is just so disrespectful He's fucking her. He's fucking her. When Schwartz is like, when Schwartz is like, oh, yeah, Raquel, it wasn't great. They called you something really bad. They said, they said like, whore. And you could tell Sandball in that moment is like, try it. He's trying to navigate, like, how upset am I allowed to be about this?

Because I can be upset as her friend, but not as her, like, personal defender. Right, right. even though he probably wants to be because there's multiple scenes in this episode of him defending Raquel outwardly. Mm-hmm. Where he didn't, no one was asking for your opinion, honey. Right. Like, Lala doesn't care what Sandoval thinks about Raquel. Lala has made her own conclusions.

She doesn't want to hear it from anybody, especially not Sandoval, who she thinks is like a creeper anyway. A creepy rat. But no. But. Creepy jazz rat. It's like, Sandoval, focus on your shitty little restaurant that doesn't have booths or a kitchen staff or a kitchen manager or a menu that's completed. Focus on getting your little restaurant open with your potato chips and a strip mall. Blue Shark drink because you didn't come up with the names yet.

Like this as much, okay, thinking back to the season when they were working on opening Tom Tom Tom, I remember that feeling like such a saga that was. dragged out that it's like, okay, like, we, we get it. Like, they're opening a restaurant. Somehow, Schwartz and Sandys is, it's more captivating to me because it's more of a disaster. Like, the fact that Tom Tom was Lisa's restaurant that Schwartz and Sandoval were like a little bit invested in made it feel like there was, it was kind of too big to fail. Like Lisa was going to get it done no matter what. Whereas this, it's like, oh, these guys are. clowns their partner is like maybe screwing them over and Lisa is just watching in horror as these guys get their life savings drained over a strip mall bar that's not even open right and then then this

whole like scant scandal ball is obviously not helping business except some people are saying it is which I just don't believe that the thing about that is so I know you've been to like Vanderpump establishments in L.A. I've been to Vanderpump establishments in L.A. Part of the draw of those establishments is that they are all right next to each other. And they're very centrally located. If you're the kind of person who wants to go out in WeHo, they're right there. There's a big, you know, the Venn diagram is a circle.

It's like you're going out in WeHo, you're getting a drink at Tom Tom, because it's funny. Whatever. you're still spending money there, but it's very easy to do. If you look on the map where Schwartz and Sandys is, it's like across town. It's not close to those things. It's not in an area where there's much other stuff happening that you're just going to be out at a different bar and then you're going to pop into Schwartz and Sandy's for a drink and a picture. Like, it's not a slam dunk business in the way that Tom Tom was or even the way that the sandwich shop is because that's a block from Sir. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. It's like now I'm going to have to go drive or take an Uber to Schwartz and Sandy's and that's my night. No. Because I want to go there and troll these two fucking clowns. That's all. Yeah. You really, it would have been one thing if Scandival didn't happen. And it's like, oh yeah. Like I like Tom and Tom. Like maybe I'll run into them. But if you're like your trolling budget can only be so high. Oh my God. Yeah. Is it in my trolling. budget to Uber across town from wherever I am in LA, sit in traffic. It's probably going to take 40 minutes to get there, even though it's like a mile and a half down the road. Right. You're going to pay for whatever overpriced food and drinks they ended up, you know, cobbling together at the last minute.

Like, you're maybe going to see them. I don't even know how. Sanibal probably isn't showing his face there these days. Like, it's not, it's not worth it just to be like. Like, LOL, suck it. I spent money at your restaurant. Like, I don't. Exactly.

Exactly. Like, it's just, exact. So, number one, the draw to actually go there now after the Scannibal is, is very slim because people just, you know, are hating Sandoval right now. And then number two, it's inconvenient to troll. Even if you hate him and you want to go troll him, it's out of the way. Exactly. The trolling budget is so slim.

Like, you drop me off at Sir. I could troll sir, pump, Tom, Tom, and then have my ass a good night. I mean, have my, have a good, whatever, have a good fucking night at the abbey. A good ass night. A good ass night at the abbey right around the block because it's all in walking distance. You know, who also had a good ass night at the abbey. Look at that lead in. Look at that lead in.

So smooth. Sanofal. Sanneval and Raquel. And one Ali Lubber coming through the wicket. the whistleblower, the smoking gun, MVP, caught red-handed. If you had told me at the beginning of this season, okay, so Scandival's going to happen, that's one thing.

And the person on the cast that's going to be the first to really, really like sound the alarm. Yes. Is going to be James's new girlfriend, Ali, who he met at a DJ gig in Agora Hills and who is like, questionably why she's even getting this much screen time this season, I'd be like, no, that doesn't sound right. I would say there's no way.

Ali came through. Ali came through. I think she earned her stripes today. Like I so everyone for context, I'm texting Dylan last night as I'm watching the show. I'm like, my jaw is on the floor. And this was at the part of like literally Tom and, I mean, something with Tom Raquel in the same scene. And he goes, just wait for the James and Allie scene.

And he was right. my jaw even dropped further into the floor. I'm like texting. It was intermission for me at a Broadway show and I'm like, I'm like, just wait, just wait, just wait, making sure like I had like pre-scheduled a post and I'm like, okay, like I don't, this can't go up like too early because then it's going to be ruined and I'm going to get sued. I'm crying.

No, but I mean. I don't know. I'm scared. I don't want to get sued by like big NBC. It would be kind of fun though, infamous, you know? No publicity is bad publicity, right? This is the final episode of Mention It All. They're going to seize the transcripts, all the audio files.

The IRS is going to hear me saying, don't audit me. They're going to audit me. Then I'm out. And then mention it all is out. Right? Just kidding. But yeah. So we'll get back to Allie and James in a little bit because that is certainly an interesting thing.

But there's this shit show that's happening. with Garcel's son Oliver and his current alleged ex but current wife. And Raquel, like, the way that, Raquel is just having such a rough time of it. I know. The fact that she just, like, met this guy in Vegas and, like, they hit it off. And then he's coming to town and they're going to see. And it just happens to be this, like, scandal is just, it's so perfect. It's like chef's kiss.

It is chef's kiss because also it just feels like. this feels something that like production kind of made happen essentially like some sort of storyline because I don't know I feel like if this no one knew about the scan of all like this would have been a more like I would have been more invested in this whatever's happening but it's kind of just like right over my head and in my opinion it's like I'm watching Raquel and she's almost like loving this because she's like okay now like this is the focus of like my drama for the season because no one knows about, you know, me and Tom behind closed doors. Right.

It's, I do wonder, though, so obviously them all meeting Oliver in Vegas was like a setup. They knew that was going to happen. Whatever. But I wonder the stuff with Samantha, his wife, how coordinated that was. Because it does feel like Samantha is kind of a wild card who is sort of like going rogue a little bit. And like Oliver did not think that date with Raquel was going to go that way. No. Because he was like, he was like, hey, yeah.

I don't know if you saw any of that stuff that was happening with my wife. But I do feel like I just kind of want to like whatever. And Raquel's like, yeah. So actually we spoke on the phone about an hour ago. And he's just like, oh, fuck. Fuck. Yeah. Honestly, though, props to him as like, like he's like I like Oliver a lot.

I think he's a good guy. And like the fact that the first thing he said when they sat down is that. And like he addressed that instead of beating around the bush and like pretending like doing a fucking Tom Schwartz would be like, oh, you hooked up with Raquel last night. No, I didn't. Okay. Yeah, I did. Like, no. He just was like straightforward like if I don't know if you've heard type of thing.

And Raquel thinks she's some sort of like savior goddess, da, da, da, da, being like, yeah. And I'm going to be walking out of this day. And she gets up and walks away. I was like losing my mind laughing at that. It's funny to watch the women in this cast go through. through dating again because in the last couple seasons, most of them have been paired up. And so to have Raquel navigating this weird,

maybe kind of fake situation with Garcell's son and Lala's texting the Don who she met in Havasu and like that's apparently going somewhat well. And then Katie's bringing around this younger man satchel to Lala's birthday. It's like this is a, we have not seen this kind of of, you know, relationship dynamic on this show in a long time where people are just kind of like hooking up, seeing what's out there.

Right. Trying to get their tics wet. Yeah. Welcome. Welcome to the world, girls. Okay. Yeah. It's bleak out there.

It's fucking bleak. All right. But, you know, oh yeah, and Katie with her new little boyfriend. I wonder if they're, do you know if they're still together? I don't, I don't think. I don't actually know. but like does 25 year old satchel who looks like he just got groomed at vanderpumped dogs according to sheena like does he give you long-term boyfriend no definitely not he's giving katy the attention she needs right now and i respect that because everyone needs that everyone needs to be showered with a little bit of attention here and there wait also do you remember when katy posted that picture with lucas gauge and for like people are like are they dating oh my god literally no

Literally no. Like he's dating Chris Appleton. They're engaged, I think. I think they're engaged. Chris Appleton is the hair guy. Chris Stapleton is the country music guy, right? Yeah. So, yeah.

Stapleton is country music. I definitely did a Google at one point. And I was like, wait, no. Like, he's dating Lucas King. Like, no way. That would be a plot twist. That would be a plot twist. Maybe we start the rumor.

No, I'm happy for Katie and Satchel. Me too. You laugh. No, because his name is Satchel. Yeah. Katie, his name is Satchel. That is the, yeah, that's the kicker. That's the kicker.

Katie is like, I just, I'm loving her this season. I don't know. Just everything about her. Yeah. I think that Katie is kind of in the best place she's been in a while. I think that her relationship with Tom, Obviously there were good moments. They were together for a super long time.

But it does feel like she is kind of able to be her best self now. And I think we're sort of starting to see that more with Ariana in these last few episodes that like she and Tom don't seem that happy, at least in what we're seeing. And the whole conversation about the egg freezing and, you know, so Ariana had her eggs frozen a while ago. and Tom is like now going to go through this process of you know they're going to fertilize the eggs and have frozen embryos I guess and it's like I mean this is so shitty to watch now because you just know that Tom is like already like one foot out the door right but like it I mean but also watching that conversation you see how many things they don't line up on in terms of they've always felt differently about having kids and that's been a topic that's never gone away. You know, they've always felt differently about getting married. Like, it just, it doesn't feel like they're on the same page about big life things. And especially when it seems like she's not being treated with that much respect.

It's like, honestly, good for her for not getting stuck in that forever. That's true. That's true. Everything happens for a reason, as cliche as it sounds. But it's funny to watch these episodes because you, especially, this one. This is like the first episode I've noticed Tom like slowly in front of the cameras, like having these conversations with Arianna saying like, like, I just feel like you're always like yelling at me. You're always disagreeing with me. And then when he was having a conversation with

Schwartz being like, it's just like Katie. I mean, Ariana's just always on me. Like he's like planting these seeds because I feel like in his twisted brain, this was all part of like the how he wanted this affair to go is like he would leave Ariana, obviously. And I feel like in this episode, he was like proving to be planting these seeds for the cameras, essentially. Totally. Yeah. I would guess that in his mind, the like the breakup was going to happen. And then there would be kind of a soft launch of him with Raquel. Yes. Yes. And obviously that timeline didn't workout. But it's great, it is just kind of crazy to think about because they were filming this in August. And then he and Ariana allegedly broke up on Valentine's Day of this year. And so it's like,

what was happening for those six months? Like if you were so unhappy in August of last year, while you're talking about, you're going to go like donate sperm to whatever. It's not a donation if you're fertilizing your partner, I guess. But like, why are you going through with that or saying that you're going to, if you're already kind of thinking through the steps of this exit strategy, like that makes it worse because it's like if you had just said at the time or even before, like, I don't think this is working out or I think we need to pump the breaks or take a break or take some time apart, whatever.

That would have gotten everybody on the same page. And then there wouldn't have been this seven plus month relationship happening behind the scenes. And it's like that is the key kind of disrespect that it's like even if you wanted to leave then, you should have just done it. Right. Right. It's a key component of like making why this whole entire thing is so, so fucked up. But instead he's, you know, getting his nails done and going to band practice. So good for him.

Like, okay, Mr. Jazz Rat. Yeah. go practice your freaking trot trump your fucking saxophone and go perform in the sewers like the rat you are I really never thought that Tom Schwartz would seem like the more mature Tom on this show that that feels like a new dynamic where Tom is like you need to get you need to stop with like stop overreacting stop freaking out we need to be rational we need to show up we need to do this stuff you need to not miss the menu thing to go get your nails done. And Tom's like, well, I didn't want to have a chipped nail.

And it's like, what are, what do you think is going to happen? And then he's the one, Sandival is the one who's like, we got to open. We're going to lose the place. And it's like, you're the one dropping the ball here more than anyone else. Right. You're right. It does. I am getting the sense that Schwartz is getting is very frustrated with him as a business partner, essentially.

Schwartz is being walked all over, to be honest, by Sanibald. And it probably doesn't help if Sandival is 50% focused on, you know, fucking Rachel, that he's probably taking his eye off the ball a little bit when it comes to the business stuff because he's juggling multiple partners in the romantic sense. And like, if I were Schwartz and I knew maybe what was happening and it seemed like Tom Sandoval was like starting to lose his grip on, you know, the business stuff. It's like I would be resentful of that. They're both, you know, they both got money on the line.

They're both invested in this. And, you know, it's not good. It's not good. It's just not good. What did you think of Lala and Rakell's little conversation at the very end of the episode? Listen, this is why I love Lala because she will tell you how it is. And she obviously has this entire season to Raquel's face. and to me this is Lala being just like,

please leave me the fuck alone, Raquel. Like, why are you pulling you, like, why are you pulling me outside in your little sweater to tell me that you are sorry you called me a mistress? Like, and I see Lala, like, this is like a mature moment for Lala. She, like, didn't really snap. She was just like, almost like killed her with kindness just to get her away.

Like shoe pest. She was like, thank you. Like, I respect that. And like, it's not our fault type of thing. But I mean hindsight bias watching this now. Obviously we keep saying this knowing what we know. It's like Lala probably obviously regrets saying that and she doesn't mean it now. Like present day.

But you know, to me it's just Lala is just like please just leave me alone. Like literally like almost like a stalker girl like a stalker fan. Like love you honey, here's a hug. I'll tell you what you want to hear. I'm not mad at you. Okay, bye. Right. To me, the weirdest thing about this from Raquel's side is like, why are you walking into her birthday dinner and being like, hey, can I pull you outside for a second?

Like, you weren't even here. Call her tomorrow. Go to lunch. Tell, you know, tell the crew, hey, I want to get lunch with Lala. Can you put that on the calendar and make sure she's there? And have that conversation in like a neutral space. why are you showing up to her birthday and being like, we need to do this now. Sheena, can you help facilitate?

Like, it's weird. And it's like, Lala, I think, I think they had a, you know, a nice respectful moment. I feel like they got on the same page about some things. I do think it was valid for Raquel to want to clear the air about the Oliver thing that, you know, because Lala hears from the wife and immediately is like, mistress Raquel, gleefully fucking a married man. And like in that specific instance, that's not what was happening.

Right. But then also it's like watching, watching it and Raquel complaining about how she's getting bashed on social media for seeing a guy who was married. And it's like, oh, sweetie, just do you wait. Look into the crystal ball, babe. Look into the damn crystal ball. That comment section is, uh,

is nothing compared to what you'll be getting in a few short months. Yeah, your comments will be turned off in a few short months. Right. It's like that whole Oliver storyline, it would have, it had potential to be kind of like a like sympathetic moment for Raquel, but then watching it with Scandival in mind. It's like. Exactly. Oh, so you're you're acting on your high horse about this situation when in reality you're doing something much worse beneath the surface. Yep. Yep. And when Sanival like multiple times episodes, like Raquel is such a good girl. She's the sweetest person. She wouldn't. hurt anyone. I'm like, you two are so twisted because you're both in on it hurting someone who you consider not only a partner, but Raquel as a friend. Ugh, I can't. Makes me sick, Dylan, sick. Yeah. It's. But it makes good TV. Let me tell you that. It's a tough. It's a tough look. It's a tough look for them. It's, I mean, and it just makes it when you're thinking about reunion coming up and

the idea of there being some kind of explanation or excuse or justification, these kind of moments are what make that harder to imagine any, anything really making up for. Raquel being on the record saying how she would never get with somebody who's in a relationship or, you know, Sandoval saying that she's the best person ever when we know they were already hooking up. It's like you're digging yourself deeper.

Yep. And that's that. Wait, when's the reunion again? I need to put on my calendar. I think we have a few more episodes of the season. Like maybe, maybe like two or three. I don't know. I've heard conflicting reports of like how much they added to the season after Scandival.

Like, it might just be one episode. So the reunion starts in May, I think. Okay. Okay. Soon enough, it's April 20th. Yeah, exactly. 420, baby. 420, what are you guys doing

And celebrate the Halliblaze I will be I'll be getting in bed nice and early Maybe I'll partake in a little gummy Look, I got my green juice Taylor, are you drinking marijuana juice right now? Uh-huh The cops are really gonna come now

The IRS is gonna come Come get you And they'll bring the DEA Shit, fucking shit Oh my God Well Taylor, thank you so much for joining me today. Always a pleasure. Always a pleasure. Thank you for having me. You know I'm

available whenever you need me, baby. Yeah, okay. Do you sound desperate? You always tell me I'm desperate. I'm not. Okay. Whatever. Thank you, uh, desperate Taylor. And thank you everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. You can follow me at Dylan Hafer. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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