Mention It All - Ugly Leather Pants-Gate (RHOBH, Family Karma)

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

Bari and Dylan kick things off with their non-expert analysis of the latest Erika Jayne legal update. Then, they discuss this week’s RHOBH, and debate whether Sutton’s issues with Crystal have gone too far. And the most important question: who is Hunky Dory? Then, they discuss Family Karma, and give some much-needed relationship advice to Brian. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just go check it out. Batchez.com slash Bravo merch, whether it's for you or for a gift. Okay, we are talking today about Beverly Hills and Family Karma. There was an interesting development in the ongoing Gerardi mess yesterday. where a judge ruled that Erica, Erica's like personal funds can be used for, um, like victim payments,

which is, um, it seems like that is not a great, uh, decision for her. Yeah, it's not. And I know it were not like legal experts and I'm just,

I have questions about this whole thing. But is that what we would call like fair? Like, is that money that she worked for and like, she even coincidentally listed last night on the episode. She's done her collabs. She's done Broadway.

So that's like her money that she did and like had nothing to do with the victims unless she was involved. That's the only thing. Yeah. I don't know specifically like which, like if she has two bank accounts. Right. And one of them is, you know, my housewives money and my Chicago money. And one of them is my money Tom gave me to be a pop star.

and to get glam. Like there might be some division. So like I don't know. I haven't like fully looked into this legal decision like if it affects like all of Erica's funds or just like if there's like one pool of money that can now be dipped into. I don't. I don't know. And you know what's interesting. So last night they showed her house again, which is by the way, very chic and very nice.

But it's $9,500 a month. And it's like when I look for a new apartment, I know we have different budgets, Erica and myself. But like I was like, whoa, that. I feel like you could have saved a little bit more. But maybe at that point she didn't know what was coming to her. Yeah. We know that she, you know, this was before a lot of the sort of like legal stuff had come out publicly. But it definitely seems like she knows she needs to downsize from what she had before.

but she's not like, she's not living in squalor at all. No. You know, there, when she has, um, when she has Lisa and Sutton over to her house,

there, we know, I knew she had a pool and they go in the backyard to this like, cabana area that looks like it could seat 12 people. It's very nice. This is nice. Like, it is not like,

it is not grand on the scale that her, you know, previous house was. But like, she is living in a nice, in a nice, big house. Totally. And she's like aware of that. To be honest, I feel like she is really happy. Like I really do. That's or those are the vibe she's giving off. But she's in no way like crying for help.

But she said and even the girl said it is an adjustment. Well, and like when they're at Kathy Hilton's house and she and Crystal are playing tennis and she's like, oh, this is so night. Blah, blah, blah, like a month ago, like that could have been Erica's house. You know, like she was she wasn't like, oh, look at how nice my friend's house is. Like, now she's in a position where it's like, oh, wow, like, it's so cool that you have a tennis court. Kathy Hilton's house is one of the nicest that I have ever seen. That is grand. And she walks around in her pajamas that matches her kitchen decor and doesn't worry about a thing.

I loved. So she's letting Crystal and Erica use the tennis court. And I love that they come in from playing like a full game of tennis. And Kathy has just woken up is like in her pajamas. And it's so, it's honestly so refreshing on Beverly Hills to see someone who has all of the possible resources, but doesn't actually care that much about being glammed. Like, you know, if this was, if they were at Doreet's house playing tennis and they came inside, Doreet would be in like a full, you know, like Prada, pajama look with like hair that clearly

took three hours to do. And I love that Kathy Hilton is just like, oh yeah, girls, come in. we can have our, you know, our juices after you played tennis. Well, Kathy Hilton is very, um, humble. Like she, she knows what she has and like she's still Kathy Hilton. Like, it doesn't matter. She doesn't, she. Yeah.

Kathy. Kathy definitely gives off that, um, like, what is it? Money talks, like wealth whispers or something like that. Whatever that phrase is that it's like she's rich enough that she doesn't have to show you how rich she is. Correct. I would say, just know. If you have it, you don't talk about it because you just know. But I, I love these

friendships that are forming too, like the fact that Erica is trying to do new things and, like, although she didn't participate much in the tennis game, like Crystal's still there for her. I love when Crystal was like, her game is like a two, but you know, she was really into it. I'll give that like an eight because it is interesting that at this point in the season, it looks like we're about to get into sort of the more Erica drama. But right now, pretty much everyone in the group is on solid terms with her. Like, she hasn't really had any drama with the women yet this season. So it'll be interesting to see once stuff sort of starts coming out, we know Sutton is

going to kind of get in there and ask questions, maybe a little Doret, maybe a little Garcel. Like, it'll be interesting to see kind of how people do react. because right now everybody in the group is very much like you're going through this tough time, let's support you. And like definitely the tables have turned a bit since then. I love this episode. I think we saw more Harry Hamlin than we have in like years on this show. He was like so present.

Yes, but his mind is so focused. Like he didn't give a crap that he was on the show. The cameras were there. Like he was cooking. That's like his passion. He has the garden. It's like he was hosting this bolognaz a luncheon. And honestly, it looked like he's a good host.

He should be one of the housewives as a host of a party because you're like he can throw. He was like doesn't even care that Lisa's in the room or knows that she's in the room. She even got her little detail was that she needed to tell the women not to wear heels and she didn't even do that. Like she just has no idea what's going on. I like how freely he tells the women that Lisa did nothing for this event. He's like, oh, no, no, no. Lisa did zero. He, I liked seeing his, him there.

And when they like, they brought up Amelia's relationship like a few times and he, listen, I feel like dads, it takes dads a few, a little while to get used to any relationship. So for this, it's, it's, yeah. Like when, when Kyle was saying that she's the same age, as when she had Farah, it's like, that's not helping. Please don't. And it makes it harder because when he admit, not admitted, but when he told the story of when he had a child when he was 29 and he was with an older woman who is 44. So like he's familiar with it, but it's different when it's your child and you're watching it.

Yeah, I did think it was very funny that he like stayed and ate with them, which like as he should, he cooked the food. but none of the other husbands were invited. Did it seem like? So it was funny that it was just like all of the housewives with with Harry Hamlin at the head at the table. I don't even eat. I don't eat like meat sauce obviously, but my mouth was like watering. Watch, like watching that. Watching anyone eat like a big plate of pasta is just like the most satisfying thing in the world.

And then, you know, it just made me think of Bucca to Beppo and I just wish that I was, there in the same room. So this episode, we get our first mention of Derreet's new wedding dress venture, which of course, she tells us she was nervous to be designing wedding dresses because it's not experienced that she has. But, you know, she has experience in design with swimwear and also with restaurant design.

So I, when she listed off restaurant design as one of the things that makes her qualified to do wedding dresses, I was like on the floor laughing. It's very different. It's very different. But also, did you notice, Dylan, that when her and Kyle were on their way to Lisa's, she talked the whole time, like, from when they left to when they got there. And she was just like, yeah, and I'm doing this.

And I'm doing this. And they were showing Kyle just like looking at the way. She didn't get a word in edgewise, because Doret was just like, this is what I have to let you know what's going on in my life. And she's very proud. Doreet is very proud. And I'm proud of her. Dereet is absolutely one of those people where you could,

leave the room for 20 minutes when she starts telling a story. And then you come back and she's like, doesn't realize that you were gone. Okay, but she has been, she's still very much there. Like, I feel like in Beverly Hills, everyone is a main character. But she's,

she's very kept to the side in all these arguments and confrontations. And I kind of am like enjoying that where she's like, you know, taking a step back and like just, of course, like making faces and whatever. but she's really not involved in the drama this season. And I kind of want to know if there's like, like, why?

Because maybe P.K. told her to step back or she thought she watched. It was interesting because her little issue with Kyle that I guess like originated on the Tahoe trip. Like it felt like for like one episode, they were trying to make that into a storyline. And then they just kind of decided they didn't need to with the crystal and Sutton stuff. kind of extending and then Erica's divorce, it was like all of a sudden that sort of like petty argument didn't really like warrant screen time anymore. It's interesting because thinking about it last season, Derreet was in a really interesting position last season with the Denise stuff where she was kind of, you know, she was one of the only one sort of pushing back on this like group mentality

of what was happening with, you know, pushing Denise out. And so I feel like Doreet is like underrated as kind of like a, you know, neutral figure, like conflict mediator type of person and who can actually like try and try and get in there and like accomplish something versus just like arguing. And I think it'll be interesting to see how that kind, how that role kind of unfolds as the season goes on with Erica's stuff. because in the preview we see, like, her saying the orphans and widows thing. So clearly, like, it seems like she and Erica are still friends now, but, like, she's, like, down to ask some questions, it seems like.

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Watch only on Prime. Okay, so the ladies are enjoying their meal, and now they're having, like, I guess, a surprise celebration for Garcel, which I thought was a very nice gesture from Renna because they're working on their friendship, and that was really kind. So they showed an interesting flashback because all the women brought like little gifts, nice little gifts for Garcell's birthday. And they showed in last week that Rino was telling the women. And all of them were sitting there including Sutton. Like they were all there to bring a gift.

If you guys want to bring a gift, no problem, whatever. So I want to know if you notice they all kind of chipped in together. Right. So a few of them got her ring. A few of them got her this. Like one of them gave her something else. and Sutton wasn't included. So I wanted to know if that was done on purpose.

Like I don't think it was. I think it was kind of just like an overlook or, you know, they overlooked her. But I don't think they maliciously like didn't include her and getting a gift for Garcell. And that triggered her. I agree. So I at first when it was when we had only seen the gift from Kyle, Kathy and Crystal,

I was like, okay, that makes sense. Like Crystal doesn't know Garcel very well. Kathy probably doesn't know Garcel very well either. It makes sense that Kyle would kind of go in the two of them on this ring. Sure. That seems fine. And then when we saw that Lisa and Erica did a gift together, I was kind of like, that was where I was kind of like, oh, this is a little questionable because earlier in this episode,

we saw Lisa and Erica and Sutton hanging out. And so that would have made. And, like, Doreet then got her own gift for her. But I felt like I'm curious why Lisa and Erica didn't talk to Sutton about a gift. But at the same time, it's like, we know that Sutton does gifts. Like, we know that Sutton is the kind of person who likes to give a gift. Maybe sometimes likes to give a gift a little too much. You know, we all remember those, like, leather glove clutches that she gave everyone that were like $1,500.

of pop. Like, I don't, okay, I wish Sutton would have just said, even privately to Kyle, like, I just feel really weird because I like didn't realize everyone was doing gifts. And that's why I feel weird right now. Because watching it, it was so obvious that that was the trigger. But she never said it to anyone at the table. And so it's like, all of a sudden, it just turned into this like really weird, you know, reaction that none of them could understand

because she wouldn't just say what it was about and then all of a sudden it became something else when she's talking about Crystal and I don't like to be where people don't like me and it's like Crystal's just sitting there enjoying the pasta. Yeah, the fact that that is what made her mad about Crystal

is very, very bizarre and like Crystal and her did not even speak. So when all the, first of all the, first of all, Kyle walked over to her and was treating her like a child because that's what we've said in the past. That's how something like needs to be treated. Like she's like she clearly is not ready, what she admitted,

but that those, what happened and what you're mad about are two different things. So you got to either get it together and or not come. Because if you can't be around someone like that, then don't ruin it for everybody else or like work out your problems, which like we thought happened already. But when all the women walked over, Crystal, like no one had any idea.

And Crystal was like, she literally said, wait, me again, she had no idea because they weren't even fighting. And then Sutton said, yeah, Crystal goes, oh. Right. They, other than the comment, you know, like Kathy had said the peeping, you know, Thomasina, whatever thing, like, which I thought was kind of like Kathy. Come on. Not again.

But it was like that had so not been the focus of the event leading up to that, that I understand if Sutton has some like internal weirdness. about Crystal because they've had this back and forth. But the fact that she is so unable to get it together in a group setting when that is not even what is being discussed. It's like I, you know, like social anxiety, all of that stuff is super real. But it's like, what is the root of this? Because it doesn't feel like Crystal is doing anything at this point.

Yeah. So Garcell actually was like, no. What do you need? She was like handling it like an adult. Like the other like Sutton should have. But Garcel was like, what do you need from Crystal? And she's like, I don't need anything from Crystal. Like she's such a child. I can't.

Garcel was like, no, that's not how you're going to tell tell me what you need. And then someone suggested an apology. And Crystal said no and walked away, which by the way, I would have done the exact same thing. You don't just like get an apology from someone, especially because Crystal didn't do anything wrong. That's how she felt. So then she did the classic. I'm sorry you were upset, but she wasn't doing it in an obnoxious housewife way.

She actually was saying, I'm sorry, you're upset for that, but, and then, like, Sutton went off and Crystal walked away. Like, I give Crystal a lot of credit. I remember, like, last week we were like, you know, they were showing her, like, actually saying, talking, and, like, about the story repeatedly, but whatever. To deal with someone, like, who doesn't like you, and it's, like, clear. And she's just, like, starting problems.

It's, like, exhausting for Crystal. So I, and it's exhausting to watch, to be honest. Like, it's, it's just like, I don't know. It's just repeating a fight that's not going anywhere. And it's like kind of reminding me of New York where it's like with, with Ramona and Ebony, it's kind of reminding it's just not going anywhere. So it's unfortunate, but it's one of those friendships that I feel like just, it's for, it's not going to work.

Yeah, I don't. I don't think they are, they're clearly not on the same wavelength. And I think the issue is that they have done the housewife's thing of not really agreeing, but saying, okay, let's just move on, which can work. That has worked really well for other people in the past. But Sutton clearly is not able to do that in this moment. And so it's like, if you can't just get over it and move on with Crystal, then you need to stop acting like you don't care because clearly you do.

Like if Sutton never wants to speak to Crystal again, that's her choice. But then stop acting like you're not bothered and then losing it at the dinner. You know, like you have to, you sort of have to be honest and like pick how you feel because the idea that you like, you're like, oh, like, I don't want to talk about this again. Like we're not doing Tomasina again, like all this stuff. And then 20 minutes later, you're the one. bringing it up and leaving the table and causing a scene and storming out. Like, it doesn't work.

You can't have it both ways. You can't not want to talk about it and then be the one bringing it up. Sutton does this thing too where she just, she very much reminds me of Ramona in these situations where if it's like not about her, she brings it back to her and she always storms out because that's her way of dealing with things, which is, everyone deals with things differently. But it's like she ran across the backyard and stormed. formed off and like all the women are like hop it like behind like in their heels.

Like I was laughing out loud in last night's episode. I really was. I was like, this is so funny. And she's like jealous of what? Crystal. Like she kept she went up like a step and she turned around and yelled and then she went and then she like turned around every she she,

she blotted her face and through the tissue like four times. I was like, okay. Enough with the dramatics. Jealous of what crystal. Your ugly leather pants. And like Crystal just stood there smiling with her hands in her pocket because she didn't know what to do.

She didn't know if she should like chase after her. come back. And then Kyle was like, oh my God. Oh my God. She said ugly pants. Let's go. And like they looked like all like troops like running after. Kathy was like go, Lisa. It's your house. Go. I was like this is so funny. I can't even like it even Crystal was laughing. It was so funny. I will say I don't really know why Crystal used the word jealous. Like that felt random to me. And that felt like something that she knew, maybe subconsciously, that that is like, that seems like something that would be a trigger because like Sutton clearly has insecurities about, you know, her divorce, moving, like all this stuff. She just seems to be kind of in like a fragile state. And I feel like jealous

wasn't really like, like it didn't really make sense to me in that moment because it's like, you're not fighting about like a man or your clothes or money or anything. Like you're fighting about some specific, this specific incident. So jealous was like a weird word to me, but at the same time, it was like the exact thing that, that Sutton didn't need to hear in that moment. I think Crystal knew what she was doing and she had enough and she was like, fuck it. Like, and she just said, you know, when you just like spit out something to like hurt the person you're talking to, she did that. And I, I don't know what's going to happen. I feel like how many more talks can these women, can these two have to like, you know, hash it out.

But maybe this is what they needed. Maybe this blowout is like what needed to happen. And then it'll be like, fine. But every time it's been fine, they bring up the freaking word again. So I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, no, I have to say, I think it's on Sutton at this point to either decide to not fuck with Crystal or to get over it because I think Crystal has made it clear where she stands, what she feels like she doesn't need to apologize for.

and like, yeah, like, it's the kind of thing where like, sort of like what you were saying with Ramona and Ebony, but in the opposite way, I think Sutton, like Sutton should realize at this point that she's not going to get what she wants from Crystal. Like Ebony might maybe should realize that she's not going to get what she wants from Ramona and you can either decide,

I'm not going to fuck with this person or I'm going to like take, take that knowledge and move forward in the way that, you know, works for me. And so I feel like Sutton needs to do that with Crystal and kind of be like, okay, like maybe I don't really trust this person. Maybe I won't let her, you know, I won't get close to her. But like, Dylan, you just like swayed into the accent and back and back out. Sutton's voice is like, like, it's so easy for me to fall into. But yeah, it's just like at a certain point, why let yourself be miserable

every time you're around someone when you can just like not give a shit and I feel like Sutton needs to get better at not giving a shit. Yeah and you know what? I think she's working like it seems like she's working on it. She made it a little further this episode but something else really funny I wanted to point out this episode is when Garsell was blowing out her candles

and she was making a wish and all she said was I want him hung like a horse and then pan to Kathy Hilton who goes, I didn't know she liked. She liked horseback riding. And I'm like, girl, if she, if she even if she is, even if this is an act, keep it coming. I can't even handle it.

Like it is so she's, if it is an act, she's very good at acting. And I appreciate everything that she says. So I, I want her. We get. We're, we're sticking to our quota of like two to three really great Kathy Hilton. Like, sound bites per episode. Like, she goes, where is my bag? Like, in her interview.

know, where is my bag? I don't, I, it was a big bag. I'm like, oh my God, I can't. This woman is so funny. Of course, of course, Kathy Hilton is like the rich lady with a Mary Poppins purse. Like, that makes so much sense to me. She's like, an extra pair of shoes, a change of clothes. I want to say that I feel like that's the only thing me and Kathy have in common is that I have like a lot.

I always, I have a big bag and I always carry like anything. with it because you never know. You just like never know what you're going to be in. I would say, I would say you and Kathy have in common not always being the best with technology. Oh, we have more than that in common. More than that. All right. Yeah, that's good.

That's good. I would say you and Kathy have in common being able to lighten the mood in a, in a tense situation. Thanks, Dill. Okay, let's talk about family karma. It's Friendsgiving. I love that Beverly Hills and Family Karma are sort of, lining up around Thanksgiving. It's always, like, fun when that happens because you feel, you feel grounded in time.

Yes. And we can watch how everyone celebrates differently. But I love Bali. I think it was very cute how Anish explained her as, like, that cool girl in high school. And that, like, seems so true because she's, like, in between the friend groups. Like, she's not, like, as old as the aunties and uncles, but she's, like, older than, like, the kids. Like, we call them kids. they're in their 30s and grown, but compared to the adults, they're the kids.

But yeah, she hosted the Friendsgiving for the group. And I feel like she just, she is the one that brings everyone together. She is like our auntie. Yeah. And like, I mean, let's be real. She knows how to get involved in the drama too. She can be messy with the best of them. But she kind of like, everyone has like a little bit of a respect level for her that's like a little bit above the average.

like, you know, friend in the group. Right. But I loved that we got to see Nicholas going to see Nani for the first time since Omri came out to her. And, you know, it went really well. She seems like she is, you know, doing her, doing her best. And I would say doing a pretty good job of making them feel, you know, welcomed and supported.

And it was interesting to hear a little bit more about Nicholas. his backstory growing up evangelical and how, you know, his parents have struggled a little bit more with accepting this part of him. And so it was, it was nice to, nice to see that moment with Nani because, you know, we just love, we love to see it. And I love when Nicholas was like a little nervous in the car and he was like, should I kiss her feet? And, and Amri was like, just act normal, whatever. So he gets out of the car. He goes, hi, Nani. He gets down on the floor and like touches her because you could tell he just like didn't know what to do or what the what you know what that felt right to him and that was like a form of respect and I feel like she she even said she keeps saying

like if you're happy I'm happy and I feel like that's kind of just like what they both need to hear and I feel like um they're really cute together nicholas and I mean like very I know it looks like they're going to get engaged next week so I'm well yeah and of course Bali is the one setting She was like, helping. She's like, I'm planning it. She's like, we got a yacht. I'm doing the whole thing top to bottom. Oh, God.

We, at Friendsgiving, it was like very giving me Shaw's vibes with this game they were playing. I was like, wait, just saw this. And it was the exact same thing. They were doing it and like making Brian like uncomfortable, even though I don't know if Brian gets uncomfortable. I don't know with the two of them. With like he and Monica are on this same page, but not. I was like writing this out on my notes.

I was like, I don't know if this makes sense, but they're very much on the same page where they're in love, but he wants, he's not ready for what she's ready for. Does that make sense? Like, totally. I think they are, they are not, they seem compatible with each other. And like they both,

they both are serious about the relationship. They're just differing on like how quickly they want to take certain steps. Right. And I think that's, I mean, that's a difficult thing because obviously they have, you know, like cultural expectations about, you know, how quickly things should be moving. What are the proper steps? And then, you know, he has his personal stuff of, you know, I'm only 29. Like, I don't.

you know, just feeling like it's his first serious relationship. But then on top of that, we find out that he has recently been laid off from his job and hasn't told anyone. It seems like he hasn't even told Monica, which is bad. Like, I don't, I mean, obviously, like, it's a really difficult situation. But, like, if you're talking about, you know, getting married, moving in, getting engaged, you know, timelines. for having kids, all of this stuff. It's like you should be in a place where you can, you know, share all of that stuff with your partner.

And it seems like he is feeling a lot of like shame and like, you know, his self-esteem is not in a great place. And he already felt that way because he's not a doctor and he, you know, doesn't have maybe that like traditional career path. But like now it's double that because he has this insecurity of not having a job, I guess. Right. And we think. I wonder if I feel like he would still feel the same way about the relationship. If he was still working, I just think this added a little bit to it.

It seems like Monica Shaw is like she is the kind of person who she's going to say exactly what she wants. She's going to make her expectations clear. You know, Brian knows that she wants a $100,000 engagement ring, which is crazy. But yeah. That is a lot of money. that is not an average you know type of no

that is situation also okay I want to know like I feel like there's this connotation that like doctors are like so rich and whatever he does

IT consulting is like this slubby job and I feel like that's not really accurate like I think it's more of like a cultural thing of like being a doctor is more prestigious because like I feel like a youngish

doctor is not making like millions of dollars a year. Like, it's a good paying job, but like... They're not. Everyone forgets about that. They have to come out their residence, because they're also doing their residency. So they are paying, they're also paying back,

like their med school, depending on your situation, obviously. But yeah, of course, it's a nice paycheck and something to fall back on. But you're right. It's not like right out of the gate, like, making this money, but also a $100,000 ring for anyone is a lot of money, not just like, and it, oh my God,

wait until she hear. he doesn't have a job. That is just, oaf, she's going to have to wait a really long time for that. I'm nervous for him. When he,

when she suggests that their parents meet each other and he was like, I am definitely not ready for that. I honestly was like very proud of how he, I think I've even said this before about how like vocal he is

about not being on the same page because do you know how many relationships in the real world don't say these things and like they make the wrong choice and like or they just like do it because they think it's easier and they're just like oh whatever he's like taking his time and like he wants to know he's secure and everything's good before his parents get involved and like parents meeting each other is a big step so like I was I thought that was very big of Brian and I feel like he he at times with a relationship is making the right decision so I thought that was that was a great move on

his part. Whether she wanted to hear it or not, because she looked like she was ready for them to have dinner like that night. That's a different story. Yeah, I'm happy to see Brian being honest with himself and not making, you know, really big life decisions just because it's what he knows Monica would want. Like, I feel like, hopefully if it's the right relationship, he can sort of come to the place where he feels like he's ready. But like, you shouldn't get engaged to someone just because you know they are ready. Like, that's not the right answer. And so I'm glad that he seems, you know, like he's, he's listening to him, his heart.

Yes. And if you guys need relationship advice, you can come to us anytime because, like, we're professionals and, or you can go with a niche to the sex store that is the size of, like, Kansas with, with some dildos that are also, can you die that they literally blurred out? the dildo, but you saw it and it was like the size of like a refrigerator. Yeah, I mean, you just got to find yourself in everyday dick. You know, you can't have that. Well, that is going to do it for us today. Thank you guys so much for listening. Don't forget to rate, review and follow the show wherever you listen. We will be back on Monday to talk about the real house

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