Mention It All - We Finally Have VPR Updates, Sort Of (Plus RHOSLC)
Episode Date: October 24, 2024For the last episode of the week, Dylan is back to recap another chaotic but excellent episode of RHOSLC. As Angie celebrates her 25th anniversary, everyone has different bones to pick, and at least o...ne person plans to go the distance on it… whatever that means. Earlier in the episode, there are some interesting developments in the world of Vanderpump Rules, and Dylan also pays tribute to Southern Charm favorite Michael Kelcourse, who sadly passed away this week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast.
We don't say that, but now we said it.
With me, Dylan Hafer.
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.
We are continuing to barrel through four housewives fall.
Lots going on, which means we have Salt Lake City to talk about today, maybe a little bit of New York.
If you haven't caught up, I had Aaron Leachie on the podcast yesterday.
So we talked more in New York stuff.
And to be honest, I don't feel like there's a ton more to get to from this week's episode.
But we will get there in due time.
We have some updates to discuss first.
First of all, on a somber note, I do just want to note the passing, the sad passing of Michael Calcores.
Patricia Alchell's butler that we got to know on Southern Charm, Michael was just the best energy in a show that has historically been quite toxic.
He was always there with a smile on his face with a drink in hand.
And he was just, he was one of those kind of Bravo side characters that always, always just
made you a little bit happier when you saw him on screen.
Michael had had some really major health problems over the last few years and Patricia
has been really, I think really thoughtful about sharing updates on what he's been going
through.
Obviously, you know, we're not entitled to every single detail of anybody's health
situation. But I think Patricia knew and Michael's family knew that he was sort of beloved by a lot of us.
And so she had shared a few weeks ago that Michael had had another stroke and was,
you know, not doing really well, but had let people know that they could send him cards
and encourage them to do so. And Patricia shared a really lovely post yesterday and said,
over the past two weeks, he was deeply touched by the incredible number of cards and well wishes from
fans. I've been told there were hundreds and they brought him immense
joy during his final days. She also said he was more than just a devoted butler. He was a trusted
friend, confidant and member of our family for over 20 years. I think just really lovely kind of to
see everyone coming together over, you know, their shared affection for somebody who we never even
knew that much about. He just had that presence that was made everyone's days a little bit brighter.
So RIP Michael, sending love to Patricia to the whole Southern Charm family, to Michael's family and loved ones.
We lost a good one, and it's a sad day.
But we have other stuff to talk about.
We have some Vanderpump Rules updates, or really, shall I say, non-updates.
Of course, we have been in limbo now for months since season 11 wrapped up over what the future of this show is going to be.
It was renewed by Bravo for another season, but it was made pretty clear that there was going to be some time off between seasons.
Clearly, they're, I don't know, taking a hard look at how this is going to move forward.
And we have gotten some chatter in the last couple weeks that, I'll be honest, does not make me feel great about the direction that this show.
This show doesn't have a direction right now, and I think that's the problem.
So last week, earlier this week, I don't know.
Time is a flat circle.
Lala Kent was on, where else?
Jeff Lewis Live.
Look, I talked about Jeff Lewis with Aaron yesterday.
We got to get the Jeff Lewis Industrial Complex under control.
We can't keep having every single piece of Bravo News run through Jeff Lewis Live.
It just isn't feasible.
It's not practical.
It's not, he doesn't deserve it.
And truly no shade.
Jeff, but like, I don't want to talk about Jeff every week. I don't want to talk about Jeff
every month. I want maybe two to three Jeff Lewis adjacent storylines every year. I think that's
enough. But anyway, Lala was on Jeff Lewis, and she basically said that a reconciliation
between her and Ariana will never happen. That's a quote. She said, let's just say there's no more
story to tell, right? There's only two people to blame for that, and that's Sandoval and Raquel.
Well, Ariana, I will always be a cheerleader for her. She was absolutely fantastic on Broadway. I heard she killed it on Love Island. I've never watched the show and certainly did not start watching because we were not good. She said, I have no ill feelings about anybody on the show. I think that's what feels for the first time like I am at peace. Now, I can't quite put my finger on any words in the English language that would inspire less confidence that you're about to produce a good season of a reality show than I am at peace. I say this with all the love
my heart, but like, if you are at peace, go, go live your life with your two beautiful children.
That's not a reality TV storyline, which is fine. It's been 11 seasons. Maybe, maybe we don't need
that storyline, but it's, it's, it doesn't feel like when Lala is making these comments that she is
gearing up to spend another season on Vanderpump Rules. It feels like she's preparing herself not to.
Sandival said earlier this month, he was asked at the release party for the unofficial
Vanderpump Rules trivia book. Can I get a copy of that? Somebody sent it to me. He said,
he told us weekly, I feel like we still have a lot of story to tell, but it's not up to me.
I'm not the EP. I'm not the network. I'm hopeful it continues on. We're just going to wait and
see what happens. And I think that that quote, more than what Lala says, really just illuminates the
fact that no wheels are turning right now. Nobody's in talks. The network and the production
company might be in talks about what to do internally, but I'm getting the vibe that the
cast has not been reached out to at all. So Us Weekly reported yesterday, this is yesterday,
future of Vanderpumpurals remains uncertain discussions are still ongoing. I really feel like this
means discussions within the network versus I've seen another report. Reality T. Posted,
Vanderpump Rules stars are holding out for more money, unwilling to compromise. I don't think we're
at the stage here where people are getting offers and are negotiating and demanding things.
I think we're at the stage where nobody knows what the fuck is going to happen. And look,
Vanderpump Rules, it's always a show that's filmed in the summer right now. It's about to be the last week
of October. And just like when you actually look at the calendar, the last week of October is
November. November is Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is the holidays. The holidays is the new year.
And the new year really, it's like you're looking at late January, February. I really think it's
unrealistic that we're going to have any kind of meaningful development with Vanderpump
rules until after the new year. And by after the new year, I mean like after January 15th, because
let's be honest.
Like, Andy and Lisa are on vacation probably from like Halloween to Christmas.
Not like vacation vacation, but like that's not when deals are getting done.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm of many different minds, I guess, about what to do with Vanderpump rules because I,
I've loved it for a long time.
And so my instinct is not just to throw it all in the trash.
But at the same time, like I said, hearing Lala, or let's be real, reading what Lala said on Jeff Lewis Live,
It doesn't inspire confidence that there's going to be a great season at the end of this.
I don't know.
I mean, I'll watch whatever they put in front of me.
Like, put the slop in the trough, and I will eat the slop.
But it doesn't feel like we are moving towards something good.
But I would say, in terms of moving away from something bad, Raquel Rachel announced that she's, her podcast, Rachel Goes Rogue is coming to an end.
Wow. Moment of silence. Pause, pause, pause, pause. Congratulations, Rachel. You, um, you, you, you successfully went rogue. I don't know. She put out this statement about how she has felt like this podcast has made her keep one foot in the Vanderpump Rules universe and she wants to take both feet out and she wants to, I don't know, jump feet first and do something head over heels. A lot of figures of speech there, but, um, Rachel says that this is kind of her,
Her moment to fully just like shed all the baggage because I guess doing a podcast for a year about
allegedly about mental health wasn't shedding baggage.
I don't know.
There's a lot of baggage.
What was funny to me about this is that they said basically in the announcement that
Rachel's leaving the podcast, but the podcast isn't ending and that there will be somebody
else going rogue and talking about Vanderpump rules.
And I think the immediate name that jumped to mind for a lot of people was,
is Joe on the line.
Are we getting like Joseph goes rogue?
Because that's even more troubling than Rachel goes rogue.
Like, Joe already feels kind of rogue.
Like the whole thing, the whole, like, idea of Joe is that she's kind of like a kooky, crazy girlie.
I'm concerned.
I have fear.
But it might not be Joe.
I mean, it could be, hey, if Lala leaves the show, Lala already has a podcast. That's the thing.
Most of these people already have podcasts. Joe might have a podcast. If she does, Godspeed.
I hope it's great. I have not, I'm not checking for that. It feels like we are now like,
we're entering, or maybe we have entered another post-scand-of-all phase, where there was like the immediate fallout,
the first few months of so much noise.
And then there was kind of after that, the like post-Skandival economy where it was like,
okay, we're booking jobs, we're starting podcasts, Sandoval's going on tour, we're filming
another season, all of that. And now it's like, okay, it's been a year and a half,
plus a little. Vanderpump Rules is up in the air. It's a question mark. It's not like
it's not like Rachel will never get another check in her life based on her Vanderpump
Roles tenure, but there's no clamoring. Nobody, nobody's like, wait, but what does Raquel have
to say this week? I don't even know, I mean, I listen to that podcast once or twice when it
seemed relevant, but like, there's a difference between somebody having an interesting perspective
on something that's trending and somebody having an interesting perspective one
a week in perpetuity.
Look, I record three episodes a week, and if there's no Bravo shows on, I'm not that
interesting.
I can tell a story here and there, but, like, mostly I'm talking about what these people
give me to work with.
So if Rachel is, is talking about Vanderpump Rules, even though she doesn't want to,
allegedly, and then Vanderpump Rules goes away, what is she going to talk about?
Being a pageant girl and how much James ruined her life and how much Tom Root, like,
it's enough.
at a certain point.
So Rachel, she's no longer going rogue in the corporate sense,
so I suppose she's going rogue in terms of fully just disconnecting from Vanderpump
Rules.
And honestly, congratulations to her.
So good, so good, so good.
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One other thing, before we get into Salt Lake City,
I don't know if anybody else is subscribed to the Bravo email newsletter.
Like they send out these, I don't know if it has a name really,
but they send out these emails.
and a lot of the time it'll just be like, when there's a trailer for a new show or there's a,
you know, some cast update, they'll send out these little things. It's, it's usually stuff you've
already seen if you're really plugged in, but I had to laugh because I got this one yesterday.
And the subject line is major Bravo Lab updates. I'm like, major updates. Did somebody get fired?
Did somebody get divorced? Major updates. I click in. Above the photo, there's just,
The headline, all caps, huge news.
Huge news.
There's huge news.
I need to know the huge news.
Right below that, there's a photo of Kyle Richards.
I've heard of her.
And under the photo, it says,
Kyle made an unfortunate discovery at her home,
quote, I'm not happy.
I'm going to smash the read now button.
What did Kyle find at home?
Is there a dead body under the grass?
Did somebody crash her car?
into the... What's happening? I click.
Kyle Richards showed the frustrating realities of being a dog mom.
On Thursday, October 3rd, the real outside of Beverly Hills cast member took to Instagram
to share an unfortunate incident that occurred inside her Encino home.
Kyle posted a video of showing one of her rugs in total shambles, all crumpled up next to its
shredded grip pad. Although she questioned who was responsible for the annoying mess,
Kyle clearly knew who the culprit was. Her Bernie's Mountain Dog, Georgie. I'm sorry. Huge news.
Major Bravo Lab updates. The dog ate the rug. That's the oldest trick in the book.
Who cares? Kyle has like 42 dogs. Yeah, one of them's going to eat a rug sooner or later.
The other major Bravo Lab news in this email includes Eddie Judge sharing an update of his
heart condition, Aisha from below deck, launching a merch line.
It's, look, do what you got to do to get people to open the email, but I just, I did,
I had to laugh. I had to laugh. I love to laugh. It's fun. Major Bravo Love News.
Kyle's rug will never recover. Maybe Jill Zarin can send her a new rug.
Should we talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? I feel like we have, we have dallied long enough,
and now we've got to get into this episode, where Angie Kay is having her twice.
money fifth anniversary, mob wives themed party, whether Meredith likes it or not.
And this week, we get another cast event on Salt Lake City that every single person attends,
whether or not they love or hate or, you know, have ill will toward the host.
It really feels like this season of Salt Lake, there was some sort of memo sent out that it's like,
look, the bar has been set high for us. We have, we have continued to keep the bar high.
We all need to fucking show up and put in the work this season. So Lisa, you're going to show up
to this anniversary party, even though you just got done talking about how, you know,
Angie called you a shitty mom in Milwaukee. Meredith, you're going to show up even though
Sean said you were never welcome in their house again. Mary, you're going to come to every single event
and you're going to be there with fucking bells on this season.
I am really just, I mean, maybe this should be bare minimum.
Maybe I shouldn't be impressed by this.
But everybody is participating so much.
And this is, I mean, this is something that I wish for all the time on every
house size franchise, but it doesn't always happen.
I mean, in New York, we have multiple people begging Brin to stay at the Sampton's house
for like two nights.
we have just everybody's there.
Everybody's, it feels like we're, we're having an issue and we're talking about it like the next week.
And then, you know, the ball kind of keeps being passed around.
It doesn't feel like anybody's kind of hogging the ball this season and letting their, you know,
internal drama simmer for seven episodes.
There's just a, there's a lot going on in kind of the best way.
But we, we start before this.
anniversary party because we got to do things in order to a certain extent. Meredith is meeting up
with Whitney and it's funny because Whitney and Meredith like the reason they're not getting along
is because of these Alibaba rumors. But all of a sudden because Whitney now suspects that it was Lisa
who spread the Alibaba rumors. Meredith feels like Whitney owes her an apology. And so she says,
I do have reservations about meeting with Whitney
because of her coming after me and attacking me wrongfully.
But I want to give her a chance to acknowledge her wrongdoings.
And if she doesn't, so love you.
Meredith, just a breezy, a breezy queen.
She doesn't give a fuck.
Who cares?
And Whitney, to her credit, apologizes right off the bat.
And this is, I don't know if a producer prepped her really well for this encounter
or if there was some conversation that happened off the screen.
But for Whitney to know that she needed to start that conversation immediately with an apology,
that was smart on her part because Meredith then sort of becomes an accomplice in this Lisa thing
rather than like an aggressor.
Because Whitney's like, after I trip in Milwaukee, I found out that the Alibaba Rivera was likely coming from Lisa.
and Meredith is like, you need to be so sure about this.
Because if you're going to go down this road,
you got to go down the road and you don't want to be wrong.
Meredith, like, the way that she handles information,
she's like, I don't know.
The Alibaba thing is so funny.
It's just like, the funny thing is like,
I feel like nobody, we've moved past whether or not it's true.
And I feel like it's true.
Like Whitney did deny it, but like we saw the photos of the jewelry.
It's not, I mean, that didn't come from nowhere.
I don't know. Bronwyn goes over to Mary's house.
I do feel like we, I think I've complained the last couple weeks about how it feels like
Mary is engaged when she's with the group, but that we're not really getting anything
from her personal life.
And we do kind of, we get a little bit of those layers peeled back this week.
You know, she's talking about how she's kind of struggling a little bit with her relationship
with her son and that he's changed and he he doesn't answer the phone when she calls and all of
this stuff. And there is this like weird aspect though of that he is literally married. We see in
this scene that he's like bringing the wife back to the house and she says, I love you to marry.
But Mary wants to be the person still that her son is calling and is sort of relying on. And it's like,
girl his wife is upstairs i think that's something where like i feel like mary has this weird
not weird but like maybe i mean maybe weird but she has she's having a hard time kind of accepting
that her her son is an adult with his own life but then at the same time it's like he's living
in her house he's not working he's asking her for money so it's like he's he's an adult with a life
but also he is so reliant on Mary for pretty much everything.
So it's a really complicated dynamic.
But Bronwyn comes over.
She and Bronwyn are bonding.
They talk about kind of having these challenging parental relationships.
And, you know, both Mary's son and Bronwyn's daughter have grandparents that they have never met,
which, you know, is interesting.
I don't know that we've ever gotten too much detail about some of Mary's kind of family situation.
But then they pivot to Heather.
You know, she says she keeps hearing things in the group and they're usually coming from Heather.
This is like a trend that Bronwyn is noticing.
And Mary's like, well, I called it from the beginning.
And at the zip line, I called Heather Al for spreading stuff between Lisa and Whitney.
And she said, I don't do two faces.
I need one face at a time.
And I think, I don't know if Mary really deserves a lot of credit here for like clocking that Heather is messy because, you know,
fork found in kitchen. Heather, Heather's been messy from day one. But I do think Bronwyn seems like
somebody with pretty, she's pretty savvy. Like the fact that this is her fifth or sixth episode
and she's kind of picking up on these patterns, I think that that's something that,
I think that will serve her well. It might get her into some trouble too, because I think if she
if she starts to see herself as kind of like a bone collector in a way,
like if she has this encyclopedic knowledge of when everyone has fucked up,
I think you can use that to your benefit,
but then also it can be a liability if you're kind of too aware.
And if you're treating things as like too tit for tat,
it can be,
you can sort of talk yourself into some corners
because then it's like you're keeping score of everything.
And at a certain point, it's like we want people to be strategic and we want people to be, you know, calculated sometimes.
But then you also need to be able to kind of like mute that and just like be a real person too.
So I don't think that Bronwyn is doing anything wrong at this point.
But I do, I want her to sort of work on that balance of like she's not just a sociologist observing this group for her.
research. Like, you have to, you have to be a friend to people, too. And I think she'll get there.
I think that she has a lot of promise, and I'm excited to see her. I really feel like she is kind of
like getting in there in a way that makes me happy.
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Speaking of getting in there.
I don't actually know if that's speaking of getting in there.
Angie's party.
This is, there's so much to talk about.
There's so much to look at.
There's so much to listen to.
We got to start with Brittany.
showing up with a date.
A new date, a man named Aaron.
And this is a man that Heather has made out with in the past, apparently,
which Brittany was not aware of.
But so we just saw Brittany and Jared Osmond having this conversation
about not being on the same page and how he was manipulative
and he can't give her what she wants.
So then at the very next cast event
For her to walk in with this new guy
Who's like kissing her in the middle of the party
She's like giggling like a teenager
I look I
I love love
I'm happy for for anyone who finds love
This is not love
This is
They're like
They're literally like horny teenagers
At like the cast party for the musical
Get it together
What are you doing?
It's one thing to like bring a date
To something that is
I don't know if this 25th anniversary party is really like a bring a date kind of event.
I mean, I guess Angie didn't have an issue with it.
But like, keep it together.
Have a little cooth.
My God.
But Brittany says that when she and Jared break up and remember, they've broken up like 17 times at this point,
she's like, I immediately get back on the dating apps.
And I'm swiping and swiping and talking and matching and chatting.
And this is, it makes me sad because, look, everybody should do what they want.
She's an adult.
But it feels like this relationship with Jared has had her on such a yo-yo.
And when that stops, I would hope that she could kind of take a moment and really like take stock of the situation and what isn't working for her.
And maybe what choices that she's making.
that aren't serving her and kind of make some notes,
look at your life, look at your choices.
And if you're ready, if you want to get back into the dating pool,
be able to approach it with that kind of knowledge in mind.
And it doesn't seem like Brittany is really taking a step back at all.
She's leaning into the point of tipping over.
She's like, well, if I'm not making out with Jared tonight,
it's going to be somebody else.
So who's it going to be?
and like again no shade like i would never slut shame like i i don't think she's a slut at all like
i think she wants to have a guy on her arm at this party which is fine but it's like girl take a
take a week for yourself you've been you've been dragged all around utah by this
dummy guy jared take a week to just like go for a walk breathe in some natural some some some some
share. Take a nap.
Like, it's, it exhausts me to think about how, what it must be like inside of her brain with this
love life situation.
Mary, but I am glad that she brought Aaron, because Mary being so convinced that Aaron is
Jared to the point where she is telling Meredith explicitly, that's Jared Osmond,
go talk to him, that's Jared.
And Marr, it's like, that's the same.
And Mary's like, mm-mm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, it is, it is.
No, that's Jared.
God, Mary is, she's giving us a lot to work with this season.
She's giving us a lot to work with this season.
And later we get her kind of going at it with Heather and Lisa.
And, you know, she's talking about how Heather is always kind of, you know, lying, spreading things.
starting drama and Mary's like, I never do anything to you. So why are you doing all of this to me?
And the look on Heather's face when Mary says that she never does things to them is like
Mary is an alien from outer space with like horns growing out of her face. It is so comical to me.
But the thing is, the thing with Mary is that she believes her bullshit to an intense degree.
if she tells you that she's never done things to you,
good luck getting her to see the light and change her mind
because she believes to her core
that she has never done anything negative to these women.
This is Heather that she, you know,
has said pretty nasty things about in the past.
And even just last week,
she's talking about her body positivity
and how she changed her mind and all of that,
which like if you want to have thoughts about that,
that's one thing, but you said it on TV.
mind you.
It's a lot of confrontations.
It's a lot of confrontations at Angie's party.
We get Bronwyn telling,
Bronwyn telling Angie that Lisa is mad about the parenting comment.
And then that she,
that she made to Heather.
And it's funny because now this parenting comment,
which objectively was not a very nice thing for Angie to say about Lisa.
has now been spun around into,
isn't it fucked up that Heather told Lisa that you said this?
Which it's like, okay, sure.
I know that Bronwyn is very into this anti-heather narrative,
which, you know, to each their own.
And I think that there's a valid,
there's a valid anti-heather narrative,
but it is just kind of funny that like this specific instance,
which started with Angie making a comment about Lisa's parenting,
is like now solely being viewed through the lens of,
isn't Heather messy.
Just
just noticing that kind of trend.
So then Angie confronts Heather
about telling Lisa
about what she said about her.
And Heather's like, well,
you've changed.
You're not a good friend to Lisa anymore.
And I think that Bronwyn's been in your ear.
And so they go to talk to Bronwyn
and Angie's like, well, if
if Bronwyn was in my ear,
then maybe she made me see
that you were you were saying something fucked up and Heather's like you're my dear friend.
And Angie says that if Heather is her dear friend, then she needs to be more fair. And I do think
Heather is, she's caught in the middle of something that Angie and Lisa really just need to talk about.
You know, like it's, it's of course like Heather has sort of done this to herself in a way,
but I also think Angie and Lisa just need to like, you know, put on their big girl panties and
have a talk about it, you know?
But then Jared Osmond, he shows up. So Justin, Whitney's husband Justin, texted Jared, being like, hey, swing by this party, this black tie party that is already in progress, I guess.
Justin allegedly didn't know that this was going to be an issue. I don't know if he didn't see that Brittany had another man on her arm or, you know, God bless Justin, not a thought going through his head.
But when Jared walks in, Brittany's like freaking out.
They have a moment outside and, you know, Britney's emotional.
It's rough.
Jared's like, oh, let me, you know, let's get you out of the cold.
And it's like, no, sir, you were supposed to get her out of the cold two weeks ago
when you had the conversation about whether you could hold her hand in public
around another pretty woman.
I really hope that they're not gearing us up to see like Jared and Brittany going back and forth
for the next 12 weeks because I just can't.
It's enough.
It's enough.
But thankfully, she has Aaron there to console her.
But oh my God.
And then the big kind of piesta resistance of the episode is when Whitney goes to talk to Lisa
about the Alibaba jewelry rumor and Lisa flips the fuck out.
She says, don't bring up another rumor that you're going to.
going to have to apologize for, and she is so adamant.
She barely even, like, Whitney barely even gets out of her mouth what the rumor is before
Lisa is absolutely flipping out.
She asks, who is it that told you this?
Because I'm going to sue them.
She calls Whitney Little Girl in the Confessional.
And then she really, really loses it.
And she says, do it to you.
Shut the fuck up about that.
Shut the fuck up about that because I didn't do it to you.
And she calls her, Sean, her private security in real time.
And Lisa's ability to have law enforcement, legal protection, security staff on speed dial is unmatched.
We know this from Jen Shaw's arrest when she had six lawyers on the phone in the back of this printer van.
She calls Sean in real time.
She says, hi, I need an investigation opened.
I want you to go to the LAPD, the Salt Lake PD.
And I need you.
I want you to go to the district.
on it, the distance.
And this, it feels like, um,
somebody's writing like a legal procedural show who has never spent time in a legal
setting.
And they're just like, yeah, go the distance on it.
That's right.
The distance.
How far do I want you to go?
The distance.
Mm-hmm.
Go the distance.
Like, does that mean something?
Or is it, it feels like Lisa
cosplaying as like Olivia Pope.
She's on the phone, she's like, yeah, that's right.
The distance.
And you know what?
It worked on me.
Chills down my spine.
Chills.
I rewined it.
I stopped it.
I watched it like three times.
And then she gets into this weird extended metaphor about
Whitney just wants to be Whitney Drew connecting the dots,
but she failed geometry because she doesn't know.
So she should not be anywhere near dots
because she is not good at connecting them.
Lisa Barlow just has a way with words that is so captivating
and so utterly bewitching.
She's not good at connecting dots.
You're not good.
Whitney Drew.
This is, it feels like this was a shift in the season
because I feel like from the beginning until now, pretty much all of the drama was operating,
I would say, not above like a six out of ten. You know, we had a lot of arguments. We had
misunderstandings. We had conflict. But even the Milwaukee trip, like there were arguments, but it
didn't feel like anything was really that serious. And all of a sudden, by Lisa calling private security
and wanting to go the distance, it feels like we are now at a 10 out of 10. And I don't know if we're
going to stay there or if there will be ebbs and flows throughout the rest of the season. But the bar
has been raised. And I for one, I'm nervous. But thank you so much for listening. That's all for this
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