Mention It All - We Need Strong Southern Housewives Ft. Heather McMahan

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Dylan is back from vacation, and he’s joined in the studio by Heather McMahan, whose new standup special ‘Breadwinner’ just dropped on Hulu. Heather is tired of talking about herself after a busy run of press, so they stick to Bravo, and she shares which Housewives are strong southern women like her. She and Dylan also discuss the recent developments on RHOSLC, and what planet Mary Cosby is on lately. Later, Heather discusses whether she’d do a reality TV show, which Housewife she trusts the least, and who she’d bring to a deserted island. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to check me, boo Hey everyone, welcome back to the Mention It All podcast I am so excited to be I'm back from vacation And my first recording back Is with a favorite of mine She has a brand new

Stand Up special Now streaming on Hulu Bread winner Please welcome Heather McMahon Hi honey, how are you? I'm so good I'm so glad to house you Thank you. Thank you for also. I came in. I was like, I need a diet Coke. We're back on the crack. I'm doing it. Thank you for letting me refresh. And just do the damn thing today.

It's always diet Coke o'clock. I mean, you're like, Lisa Barlow would have a diet Coke at 8 a.m. If she was here. I, listen, and this is a strong thing to say, but my dad was a diet Coke, and he did die of cancer. So I do think there is a direct link. So I gave them up for 12 years postmortem. But now I'm back on it. Like, I've just realized if I have two iced coffees a day, the anxiety, the body sweats

or like the fact that I'll shit myself occurs. So this is like the perfect amount of little, like a little touch of caffeine, but that it doesn't make you crazy. Well, also it's one thing if you're just like sitting at home all day and it's like if I'm spending an hour on the toilet, it's like whatever. It's TikTok somewhere else. But if you're, you've been out and about. We're out and about. I can't be shooting myself on the Today Show. You know what I mean? That would not be a good look. You can shoot yourself here. Who cares? Honestly, it's betches. Betches are all have IBS. We just got these new like white chairs. They're great. I did say yesterday. I was like, who will be the first housewife to stay in the chair? Can I tell you? I'm worried about it right now because I had to go do the Today show. I have on so much body stuff. And this is. Like who bought white boucle? This was a bad idea. Yeah, but they're so nice. No, but look, I'm lifting my leg up. I already know I stayed it.

I'm sorry. You send me the bill. Okay, I already know that I did that. I'm so sorry. You won't be the first and you won't be the last. Like, you won't be the worst one. Yeah. I think that's fair to say.

I'm at least fair because I do my own spray tans half the time because when I'm on the road, I literally don't have time to get sprayed. So I have it down to a science, but I always make sure I have like three margaritas before I do my own sunless tan. So if it's shitty the next day, I blame it on like being drunk. But I will like be. a full suit when I go to bed so I make sure I don't fuck up like nice hotel sheets. I've never done this off Tanner because I just know that I don't have the like attention

to detail. Right. And so there would be like a whole like side of me that I just didn't even look at in the mirror and then it would be bad. My toes look like they have all been like singed and burned off because I also did the color like extra dark, which is probably like racially not great to do. You know? Like I'm literally.

So my toes are all like weird and funky and it just looks like burn. baby toes. It's weird. Yeah. But I did it myself, so I only have myself to blend. So you are, you're getting toward the tail end of this real big, you know, push that you've been doing for this new special, which is great, by the way. Thank you. So sweet. I'm so excited that we can just talk about housewives and chill out a little bit. Let's bullshit. Can I tell you, this is so refreshing. Because when you do press tours, and especially with stand-up, you're talking about your own stories in your life, right? It's so self-indulgent. At this point, I'm like, watch the special or fucking don't, okay?

It's fantastic. I work years on it, like watch it. But other than that, I don't want to talk about myself. I want to talk about crazy unhinged white women, you know, aka the housewives. Well, it is crazy because when you do, when you have an hour special like that, you've worked and honed and really gotten it down to, you know, exactly what it needs to be.

And so it's like, it's like the special is kind of like the end point. And then you still have to keep talking about it. And it's just you're talking about yourself. Like how many, like what? Everyone's sick of me. I'm sick of me. You're sick of me. Like, I want to talk about other women

who don't have their lives together, aka the housewives, you know? You mentioned something in the special, though, that stuck with me that you are, you feel the need to be a strong Southern woman. I do. You're from Atlanta. I'm from Atlanta.

The thing is in Hollywood when I audition for roles, because I'll, you know, always get a call for like, whoever the Southern Bell is on a TV show. But when I read the material, it's such tropes. It's so terrible. It's all poorly written.

And so for me, when I started coming out on the scene, I'm like, okay, everybody knows him from the South. I wear it with like a badge of honor. But then I would also then judge other Southern women. And then I'm like, when you go to other places in the country, they literally think we're all like deaf, blind and dumb. And I'm like, no, I have to prove to the world that Southern women are smart,

progressive. We know how to read. We know how to write. We know how to vote and like do all that shit. I mean, you know, we'll probably fuck this election up for everybody. Not me, but the rest of these hos. But either way, like, there is sometimes a little bit of pressure because people really love in this business to pigeonhole you.

And they're like, she's from the South. Southern Bell. I'm like, I don't even have a Southern accent. Right. But I am proud to be from the South. So who, when you think about Bravo and you think about Housewives, who are like the strong Southern women of Bravo to you? I miss Kim Zulsiak. She is to me. Kim and Nini's era was perfect television.

Old school Atlanta Housewife is perfect. I wish Dallas would have run a little stronger. Dallas really flailed out for me. But Kim Zolsiak needs to come back because, I mean, people think I'm her or Heather Gay all the time. Everywhere I go, they're like, Heather Gay, I'm like, McMahon, baby. But I really miss those perfect days of Kim and Neen together. It's like if you, if the hair is like a little too big, then it's, it's giving Kim

Zolsiak. Yeah, and Kim and I have the same hair girls in Atlanta. And so, yeah, which is a real honor. And they're like, we also do Kim Zulciak. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, this is iconic. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel like you probably are, you probably like pay, pay better than Kim Zulciak at this point. Well, I don't know. I mean, listen, I know she said, times, but she's still paying her the hair girls. They haven't said anything. Their lips are sealed. So they keep showing up to her house and my house. I mean, God all the nose. It's dark days in the Zolsiac household if the hair girls have to have to go. And I honestly, I would live in a van before I would cut the hair budget. You know what I mean? Glam budget has to happen. That's a non-negotiable. If I can't afford my mortgage, I will live in my Audi Q5 hybrid. You know,

it is what it is. But the hair will be done. The hair will be laid. The lashes will be on. you know, that's a big thing in the South. It does not matter whether you're going to a funeral, you're going to the DMV, or, you know, you're going to get a PAPSmir. You show up suited and booted for everything you do. And that's something that I live by. Do you, when you think about Kim Zolsiak, like, is she somebody that you think would still make sense on a Housewives show now? Or do you think that era is, like, over for her? No, I think she could come back and always stir the pot, you know?

I mean, I'm trying, did the Atlanta just come out? They haven't come out. I think they're done filming. but it hasn't come out yet with like Porsche and Fajar's coming back. Yeah, and I love Fajer. Fajer's my girl. I actually just saw her on a flight. She's doing Dancing with the Stars right now,

and I saw her on a flight from Atlanta to L.A. And I'm like, oh my God, like Fadier and I see each other. She's a riot. She's a riot. And I was like, girl, how's dancing with the stars? She's like, honey, my knee is iced. My feet are burning. My back hurts.

I was like, well, my back, my whole body aches just from doing comedy so I can only imagine how she's surviving Dancing with the Stars. But she's a dream. I think Kim could show up to any franchise. I think she could show up to, honestly any reality show, period. And she knows how to make great television. Same with Nini.

Yeah, there's something about those like old school sort of original crop of housewives that it's like they just like, they have some little special sauce and it's like, I would watch it kind of forever. Like Sonia and like original New York, Sonia and Ramona and Luanne know how to make the best television possible. And I respect the new girls on New York, but I really, for some reason, I just can't get into it. And I know that's like the kiss of death and I don't want everybody to be pissed at me. I love Bryn. Brin is everything. Yeah. But I don't know why I need, you know, remember like the

episode when they were all in Columbia and everyone's shit in the, in the villa? Like, I need that level where everyone's do-doing in the villa. It's hard like in, I mean, you are, you know, on social media. You're in, in the public, you know, like, you know about the kind of like attention as much as anyone else. But like on reality TV, like, part of the bargain is that you're like kind of submitting yourself to everybody watching you. And like now people are so aware of social media and how things are going to be edited and stuff that's, you know, the fourth wall and off camera and things like that. So it is, it's hard like thinking when you have like a new crop of women who just came on.

They know how to play the game in a very protective way, which I don't blame them. But yeah, that's the thing is you need these unhinged women. And I know we went for younger, but I think the older women are so great because, you know, at that age, when you're in your mid-50s and your Ramona and Sonia, you don't care. If you're hungover, you're going to shit on the floor in the villa in Columbia. Like that's, you don't know what I mean? It's a level of, I don't give a fuck. That is so refreshing to me.

When you're in your 30s, you still actually care what people think about you, you know? Sonia posted a photo yesterday. It was like face tuned to hell, but it was like, it was like, lighting my abundance candle, you know, doing my facial and just like, Sonia and your city tour is going great. And I would like a new TV show. Yeah. Honestly, we're talking.

Talk about a manifestation. Talk about affirmations. She believes she could, so she did. I'll tell you what, one of my biggest regrets is that I didn't have just enough money to buy the townhouse. That, you know, whenever closure and I was like, I called my husband. I was like, we got to get this at auction. He's like, are you out of your mind? I was like, I know it's probably a total gut rento, but I want this place so bad.

I watched that auction. Like, I watched it like tick down. Like, it wasn't like in an auction house, but I was on the website where it was like going down and there were like bids coming in and stuff. but then like the bids weren't really coming in and stuff. Like it wasn't, I wanted it to be so exciting. And it like, it sat there for like a week with no new bids. And then like there was some action right at the end. But like it did not sell for I think what the.

What they needed. What they needed or what they projected. Here's the thing. I have met Sonia on the mean streets before. I ran into her down on the Turks and Cacos. And what is great about Sonia Morgan is she is who she is. She is fabulous. Everything about her.

I adore. She had the tags hanging out on her. calf tan and I went up to her. I was like Sonia, honey, you're tagging out. She goes, oh, honey, leave him out. I don't want to get sunscreen on him because I got to return this when I get home. And I was like, she just is who she is. And that is so fucking refreshing. Yeah, it is, she really is like, she's one of those people where it's like there is nobody else in the world that is quite, quite like, Ms. Morgan. Yeah. Who's your favorite? Oh, God, favorite. Favorite is so hard. I do, I, I, I really love, like, the Salt Lake women,

I think have, like, a, it's weird because they are. more recent housewives, so they're very aware of the game, but like they are so themselves in specific ways. Like, I just get such a kick out of like Meredith and Lisa and the way they go through the world. Also, Meredith and Lisa, both their voices are so unique and specific. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Meredith talks in like a fake British accent. Lisa, I don't even, like it's listening to them on television, you can just close your eyes and you know who each character is. Yeah. The way that Meredith like handles her vowels is just. Oh. She doesn't, what do you mean, handles them? She doesn't even say them.

They kind of just, like, slither out. Yeah, they slither out. Yeah. And Lisa Barlow, like, kind of like this, right? Yeah, Bronwyn. Bronwyn. Bronwyn. And she's always yelling.

Bronwyn, no. It's always like, she almost sounds Australian, like, Arn-R! Like, she's insane. It really is, I mean, Salt Lake the last few years has been just like such a wonderful surprise. I want to be read to filth by Mary. Like, that is actually a dream.

I want her just to come over. And because I don't know if you, okay, have you seen that thing on TikTok where people will put their put up just a photo themselves and they're like, tell me what I need to fix. Oh, yes. And that's my worst nightmare. My worst nightmare, right? Because I like live in delusion. I want Mary to read me to filth. I want her to tell me I look inbred.

I want her to tell me I smell like a hospital. That is my dream. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mary has like a true way of like going through the world that is so. It's like baffling to me. She is in the matrix. She is not on the same timeline as us.

she is living in the future, the past. She's not in the presence. I mean, the whole thing, and what's really wild to me is that how she runs a church, but she's the meanest person on the cast. The stuff that she says to people is not godly. And I'm like, what are you talking about? You're a preacher.

It's interesting because she's, so she's back full time this season. And it seemed like she really hated doing the show so much before. Right. So I don't know if she needs the money or what, but like. Yes, the answer is yes. Yes. But she's back this season,

and it feels like we're not really talking about anything. with her. Oh, we're skiing by it. Skating by it. We're not talking about the church. We're not talking about the husband. We're not talking about, you know, is she like scamming,

scamming people? It's like, now I'm just going to like pretend to be friends with Whitney and Angie and I'm just going to be talking about Jeffrey Dahmer. Oh, the Jeffrey Dahmer thing was so insane. But that's, that is why I don't think Mary is on the same timeline as us. Because the girls could be having a completely different conversation

about something else. And she just like pops out with, my dad lived next to Jeffrey Dahmer. And you're like, what are you talking? talking about. I honestly think Mary is somewhere on the spectrum. I think she is in her own dimension. I think she just meets your own drum, which is honestly kind of refreshing. I think that's, people talk a lot about like whether these shows are scripted or whether it's, whether it's,

you know, real, quote unquote. And I think that it's like, it's not, it's not a question of whether or not like all the drama is real. Because of course there's like, you know, they finesse things sometimes. But it's like, nobody can like hand Mary Cosby a script and, and create that. No, she's absolutely out of her fucking mind in the best way possible. I totally agree. Yeah, I'm obsessed with her. I love her more than anything. The last week's episode when they went to the Miller beer caves.

Oh my God. And they're tasting like Miller High Life and like Shandy. And she's like, oh, that's really elegant. That's delicious. And I'm like, you would hate that. She did not realize though because, you know, they call Miller High Life the champagne and beers. So she actually thought that she was drinking.

like a really, really high-end product. I mean, I love Miller, but you know what I mean? Like, she did not even get the, she did not get the joke. Right. And it's like, if somebody compares that to her 2003 Dompernion that killed 5,000 people in the heat wave, she's going to be like, oh, so this is the best beer. When she talks about the Domperion and then she says, everyone died and just keeps cruising, like in the same breath, she's like, you know, it's the best year, but also 5,000 people

died. And you're like, what? She's like, but the grapes, honey, the grapes. But the grapes. Yeah, I love her. I also love Beverly Hills. I think they're so fantastic. I was always team Erica Jane, even when, you know, Tom's car flipped a million times.

And that whole situation, I was like, I really genuinely thought like Erica was still, I just still fucking love her. Well, she's a Georgia girl. She's a Georgia girl, yeah. She and Sutton are. Sutton's nuts. Sutton's absolutely insane. Yeah. You know, they're all crazy.

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And when I first saw that, that word just made me think of the secret lives of Mormon wives. I don't know if you've had a chance to... I have. Because they talk on that show about how most of them are now at the breadwinners because of mom talk. Because of the mom talk. Here's the thing. Okay, I'm going to sound like a really bitter bitch right now. The mom talk to me is insufferable.

And I'll tell you why. Because as somebody who is a creator, all they're doing is getting together and they do the same trend and the same dance. I don't get it. And then, you know, Taylor had to throw everybody under the bus and like, I really don't even think they were swinging. I think it was all bullshit. What do you think?

Well, I, like, wasn't paying attention. attention when the like swinging scandal happened. Yeah, I wasn't really either. So then when the show got announced, I'm like, okay, like I guess, I guess it's going to be like, I don't know, true crime about Mormon swingers. And then the show is just like completely not that. It's them sitting around holding vibrators being like, none of us have ever come before. And I'm like, okay, so like, should we figure this out?

But the TikTok side of it, because I, once I watched the show, of course then the algorithm was like feeding me. It's like, do you want to see Jesse do Michaela's hair for the 42nd time? I'm like, I do. I do, actually. Yeah. But so I followed a bunch of them and like all of their videos now because people know about them and are like, you know, their comments are flooded with like, is this person

getting divorced? Does blah, blah, blah, blah. They do these like clickbait teaser videos where they're like when everybody knows that she's not the one. But they're, they never speak in the videos. It's like there's a sound in the background and they're just like smirking in the camera. That's all it is. It's a smirk and a Mormon curl.

That's all it is. I'm like, how do these gals have a platform? Oh, y'all, like y'all are the first people to ever swing before? Hello, I live in an HOA. People are getting freaky as fuck. And also, too, listen, I watched enough of it. And then everyone was like, Whitney is such a villain? And I'm like, is she?

All of this is so, I just can't get into it. Well, they got renewed. What's your take on it? They got renewed for 20 additional episodes. So I don't know if that's going to be like two seasons or something. 20 additional episodes of what? What are we doing? Well, so people think now that Jen Affleck maybe got divorced.

People think that, I don't know, there's like so many, there's like potential storylines, but I feel like I don't know what's actually going to happen. Snoose Fest, really, truly. This is me. Interesting. I'm like, I'm so over it. Yeah. But I love Hulu.

So Hulu is fantastic. Great. The producers are fantastic. It's one of the best streaming services. No, it is the best streaming service. I just would have. Look at me. I'm like, no.

Love it. Let's take that again. So the real housewives of, no, it's the secret lives of Mormon wives is one of, should win a Peabody Awards. A Peabody. Yeah. I completely agree.

I literally just blacked out. I was like, oh my God, the network's going to call me and be like, what the fuck, bitch. No, but the thing is you might not have loved it, but you watched it. I watched it. That's what matters. They care about those minutes. They care about the minutes.

And that's what we all care about is the fucking minutes. Yeah. Would you ever do a reality show? Because I'm sure, I mean, people love, like your mom, your husband are like a big part of your comedy. Like, Would you, would you, like, put your family through that? So I was asked on Watch What Happens Live.

Would I, I think it was like, would I ever be a housewife or whatever? And I said, no, because I'd never want to get audited by the IRS or get divorced. And Andy got pissed at it. I'm pretty sure that's what I said. This was a while ago. And he was like, what the fuck? I was like, no, come on, Andy. You know that they all end up going to jail for, like, a tax fraud.

No, because I wouldn't want that somebody to fine tooth comb my life that much. Also, I'm a stand-up. So I'm already sharing every dark detail of my life. I don't also then need cameras following me around. I'm already on the Instagrams. I'm doing the TikToks. I'm doing all of it. My entire job is to pick apart every uncomfortable moment in my life and to share it with

the world. So I don't then also need to do a reality show. Would I make great reality television? It would be fucking flawless and fantastic. And like, you know, move over Mormon wives. I would tear it up. But no, I would not do it. I think, yeah.

I'm too tired. I got to be honest with you. I'm way too fucking tired. doing too much. I also think part of being a comedian and doing stand-up is like you are, you're like a storyteller about your life. And then if you have the cameras there

and they're just filming it, it's like, you don't get to be the one kind of like shaping the- narrating the story. It's just like oh, there's Heather sitting on the couch again. And that's a thing. I think if you really showed a real reality show of my life, it is I'm either go, go, go, about to have a panic attack, doing the most, or then

when I do get like a day off at home, there's nothing going on. There's no drama. I literally locked myself in the basement. I sit on a very expensive couch that I bought when I got my first check and then I watch mindless TV

and you have to like check my pulse and I order like chickfilet to the house I don't even go to the drive-thru like it's that lazy it's that disgusting it's not that entertaining it's funny like in New York

obviously going to the drive-thru is not a thing and when I'm like not in New York I'm like I don't want to leave the house Yeah exactly going to the drive-thru feels like effort it feels like effort

and kind of dirty you know what I mean like it feels a lot worse to get paparazzi to drive-thru than like grabbing your DoorDash, right? I also feel like in Atlanta, if you see a Chick-fil-A drive-thru, like, that shit is, like,

wrapped around cars out in the street. But they have it down to a science. I mean, they've always got like four lanes and it's my pleasure. You know what they're doing. I'm a Chick-fil-A die-hard forever. Yeah. My favorite is at Raisin-Kanes. They have like a little, like, rhyme that they do.

Oh, I love Raisin-Ka-W-Things though, too. Great chicken tenders as well. Yeah. That's more Louisiana. I mean, Raising Cain is actually expanding everywhere. But I honestly, I want to go, like, have a party at the Raising Cains in Times Square. I'm like, why are we doing an after party at a nice bar? Let's go to Raising Cainz.

Heather, it is so overwhelming. They have a DJ in there, like, 24-7. So you'll walk in and, like, I'll be listening to, like, a podcast or something. Yeah. And if you walk in, then it's just like, they're blasting, like, Ellie Golding or something. And it's just like, oh, where I am? But that cane sauce is good. It is good.

I don't know what's in it. It could be, like, Crystal Meth, but it is good. What's your guilty, like, when you're hungover? What is your go-to, guilty pleasure? I do love a Keynes. I went to school in Louisiana. Oh, where'd you go? I went to Tulane.

Oh, we love Tulane. Yes. So I, like, I got into Keynes before it was, like, everywhere. But, yeah, like Chipotle, all those hits. Oh, you know what? Again, kind of like the Diet Coke's. I went off Chipotle for like three years. And now I'm back, and Chipotle's hitting harder than it's ever hit.

They had a bad PR moment. I think somebody fucked up the marketing. It went downhill for a minute. But you know what? If you haven't been in Cholet in a minute. It really slaps. The barbacoa is chef's kiss. Did you see there was a thing where people were, there was like, it was going around on

TikTok. There was a mutiny about the portion sizes. The bowls were too light. And then they were like, if they see you filming, they'll make the bowl full. And remember when the CEO of Jopalay came on, he did a TikTok? He thought he was like connecting with the people and he's like, you know, maybe if you give them a little wink and a nudge, they're going to give you an extra scoop of chicken. And people were like, no, fuck that.

Change the portion sizes. What are you talking about? But also only in America would we be like, you know, 16 scoops of chicken is not enough food. I mean, we just like pump the fucking breaks everybody. It's already a giant burrito bowl. I never leave Chiboli, like even if I get it to go without like the beans just sopping wet through the bag. Yeah. It's always a risk.

Yeah, when you leave. Okay. So you're you're wrapping up kind of your big press for the special. What is, what is life going to look like for you when you're done? Are you going, are you just going to go home? chill for a while. No, I thought I was going to. I'm in like a dead sprint right now.

I will go home the next week and finally get like two days just to like turn my brain off. But then I'm going to start writing a new show and, you know, I'm going to announce a tour next week's about a new tour. I was like, I'm going to take a little time off. I've been on the road for four years. But then here's what happens. You produce a special. You put it out and then you can't use that material anymore. Right.

So then you panic because you're like, oh, I've got to start from scratch. So I've already started writing a new hour. I'm like, I got to get the people what they want. I got to get out on these mean streets. Yeah. Well, so this is your second special that just came out. So when did you, like, when did you tape this one? So that material was from the comeback tour, which is what I was doing the last year.

So I wrapped that tour in May. But I shot that special in November in Atlanta, Georgia at the Fox Theater. What was it like shooting it in Atlanta? Because I'm sure that was special. Yeah. I mean, it's my hometown. The Fox Theater is one of those gorgeous iconic theaters in the country. And I love the staff there, the crew, everybody.

And I said, I want to. to do this, particularly this hour, I want to shoot it in Atlanta. And it was just, it was amazing. I mean, the fact that I get to do this for a living, that this is my job, that I get to, you know, make people giggle. And I'm just so grateful. It's really, it's wild. This whole press thing is exhausting and you feel overwhelmed and you're just like, oh, again,

like I told you, it feels self-indulgent. But the fact that this is what I get to do for a living, it's just, it's awesome. Yeah. I'm kind of in this weird, hazy bubble. Like, you're like, everyone's like, oh, I love it or whatever. But I haven't had a moment, and I'm really trying to do this moving forward, to be really present in what I'm doing and to like sit and enjoy it while it's happening. Yeah. Well, I think it's cool.

I mean, the fact that it's your second one already, but then that you're like, you have that momentum that you're like, I'm already working on the next one. It's like, obviously it's great to have, you know, inspiration and to want to keep going. But then also it's like, damn, like, I just, I did this. I just did this. Why can I not just sit in this and enjoy it? Why am I constantly thinking you're in this business, you feel you're only as good as your last gig or you're only good as. your last special, so you constantly feel like you're on a hamster wheel of trying to do more more. But then also as a creative, like, I tried to sit around for the month of August.

I was like, I'm going to take some time off. And my husband was like, you need to go for a walk. Like get a hobby. Go outside. Figure something out or go back on the road because I become like a rabid bitch in the house because I love what I do. Yeah. It's hard when you, like, there is like such a fine line of like what's the right amount of like time off or like days with no plans or something where you're like, no, I'm going to lose it right now. No, I'm actually going to like completely spiral and I feel manic. Does your husband watch Bravo? He does begrudgingly.

But then he got really into New Jersey. And so I'll have it on in the background or whatever. And he's like, these bitches are nuts. But he's from Westchester County, New York. So he knows this lifestyle. And then I'll find him like secretly watching it. And he's like, okay. And he's like dialed into all the relationships.

Yeah. It's funny. Like when you get people kind of like in from the side where it's like they're not, they wouldn't say that they're a fan of it. But it's like everybody. Everyone's a fan. Everyone's a fan. And I don't know what it says.

And I'm trying to work on this in The New Hour. I don't know what it says about us that we love to see other women like battle it out and duke it out. Like why is that relaxing to me? Why is it when I need to turn my brain off? Because I feel overstimulated. I want to watch women fighting on national television. I'm trying to figure out what that the scientific research is behind that. Why is that relaxing to me?

It was so funny. I was on a flight a couple weeks ago. And you know, in the like in flight entertainment, they have like, one episode of all these random TV shows. Yeah. And it was like, oh, one episode of Real Houseways of Beverly Hills is on the, it's on the entertainment. And it was the Amsterdam, like the dinner.

Oh, the Amsterdam. And I had downloaded like 12 things on my iPad that I was going to watch on the flight. And I was like, you know what I want to watch for 42 minutes right now? Yolanda and I miss, I miss Eileen. I miss Yolanda. Yeah. I miss Kim Richards.

Like, that was good television. I love Kyle. Like, that was the good, good, good days. Lisa Rina. Oh, I adore her. I think, I feel like we, we took that for granted a little bit. We sure it is. I still love Beverly Hills and I, like, it's, yeah.

They always are giving a certain level of, of glamour and, you know, whatever. But it's like, the actual, like, messiness of it, I think we took, we took for granted a little bit. Here's what I love. This is why I always loved New York and I loved Beverly Hills. They're actually really wealthy. Like, when you have Kathy Hilton and you are at a level of that wealth, like, this bitch has 25 Birkenbags, but still brings her own box fan. You know what I mean? And thinks Red Bulls are like a sparkling seltzer.

I live for her. That's the other thing is like when you go to, and I love this all like city girls, but you know, you Google a net worth and it's like a million dollars. I'm like, we're all, we've all got a million dollars, okay? I want real rich bitches. So good, so good.

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And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope it's time for a little in-person spring treat it's time for a trip to Ross work your magic when Heather Dubrow was there I love Heather Dubrow

it's like she's there because it like scratches some itch for her to like to do this to feel like a normal gal she's like oh yeah oh yeah Gina we could get a piece of pizza yeah why not sure we can get a piece of pizza

I would love to see your house of course I, DM Heather Dubour all the time. She stayed at this really fabulous place that I always stayed at in Italy. And I stayed there on my honeymoon and it was the number one hotel in the world. But I was only able to afford it because we were like the first people to stay there before it had gotten any notary. Okay. Notary.

Well, my God, I'm stroking out right now. Hold on. Let me get a, this is what happens when we talk for six hours. We've been talking a lot. So before this hotel was famous, I got like a great discounted rate. Well, now it's like 10. grand a night. So I, I, DMed Heather Dubrote.

I was like, girl, love this hotel. Isn't it amazing? I was like, I can't afford to stay there anymore. And she's like, we're here for two weeks. I was like, this rich bitch. I was, I was catching up on Osi, and it was Shannon's 60th birthday. And she did a little tea party. And like, some of them brought gifts.

Like, Emily framed the photo from the boudoir shoot. It was cute. And Heather hands her like an Hermes box. Yeah. And she pulls out a pair of the sandals. And it puts on the screen, it's like $700. And Shannon's like, oh, Heather, this is too. much.

Yeah. It's like $700. $700. It's under $1,000. And it's not too much for Heather. No, not at all. Like Heather didn't bat and how she was like, I just get a pair of sandals. I'm so stressed out that they're selling the house and they're building another one.

Have you heard about this? Yeah. They're like, so they're gut renovating this Beverly Hills mansion. So they're leaving the OC. But who can, who also can afford to then go by the $100 million house on the top of the hill? Well, so what's crazy is so they sold the like the last. house in O.C. They already did. But this season, they bought a penthouse in Century City. Right. As one does. They bought a mansion in Beverly Hills that they're renovating. But then while they were

filming O.C. this season, Heather is like staying at the Balboa Bay Club. She said like, we've taken a place. We've taken a place. Listen, I know. Because it's too far to commute when you're filming. Terry is making so much money. And I kind of want to get my neck done. So I feel like I need to call him and be like, listen. Okay. I know you're so rich. You really don't need to be doing surgery. But Terry, give me like a friends and family discount, you know? I feel like you could work something out. I think I could work something out.

I agree. Yeah, just like tag him on your Instagram story. Sit on his face, whatever he wants. I'll do whatever he wants. I really don't care. Okay, I have a few like quick Bravo questions that I want to just rattle through before we finish up. Okay, first of all, you've shared some great ones, but do you have a favorite Bravo Lab, like interaction or story that you want to share?

I mean, Sonia's pretty great. I met Ramona at a Amfar Gala. and she was just, the chain smokers were like the surprise guess. And it was literally Ramona just by herself, like dancing to the chain smokers. Yeah, but screaming Avery while everyone else is at a seated dinner. And I was just like, Ramona, do your thing. I love that. I haven't met anybody really nasty and rude yet.

But I trust and believe if it happens, I'll let people know. People always ask me, like, what's my worst interaction? And it's, they happen less than you would think. Than you would think. It's more, like, funny than rude usually. Yeah, but I will say any other interview I do, and if there's like a housewife before or after me, they're always like, oh, the girls are going to be six hours late. These women are not punctual. No.

Not at, not at all. A lot of them come in here and I can tell you that. Yeah, your interviews at 11 a.m. and they show up at 5.30. You're like, what are you doing? It's always a fun time. You were very on time this morning. Well, hey, I'm the professional, okay? I get, you put in a lot of work to this.

I get what it's like to run a business. So I show up. I'm suited and booted. I'm ready to go. Okay. Do you, is there a bravoleb that inspires you? A Bravo Lab that inspires me. I mean, definitely Heather Dubrow inspires me.

Erica Jane has gotten really thin and beautiful. I mean, she was already stunning. But I've been on Ozept for two years and no one has ever accused me of being on it. So I just want to get to Erica Jane's level of physical fitness. She is so gorgeous. You're like, I want my comment section to be flooded. No one has accused me. What the fuck?

Okay, which Bravo Lab do you trust to the least? Oh. Oh, hold on. I'm giving you the Marisol Patent question. Can I think on this for just a split second? Of course. I'll tell you, I don't trust Mary. I think she would air your dirty laundry and church in a heartbeat and say that it's a prayer request.

Because that's something we do in the South. We say we don't gossip. We just have prayer requests. I wouldn't trust Mary. A bless her heart kind of thing. A bless her heart. I'm going to tell you exactly what's happening behind closed doors. Yeah.

Who would you not trust? I feel like I... Or Tamara Judge. I would never trust Tamara Judge. Tamara's the tough one because I think she... Yeah, like she, she is a gamer a little too much. You think? Yeah, it's like, I don't, anybody who's been on traitors.

I think it's. No, I wouldn't trust Tamara. It's tough. Okay. What's your comfort franchise? Oh, my comfort franchise. When you're glued to the couch, what are you, what are you, what are you on? I'm glued to the couch.

I mean, again, I want to go back and I want to watch old New York. That really is, that to me just brings me such a level of joy when Durinda is sloshing around, smoking cigarettes, when she's screaming at everybody. That really brings me so much joy. and that is my comfort, Joe. God, a housewife with a cigarette, there's just something. And that's the thing.

If I was ever a housewife, I'd be smoking things all the time. I would like, I'm not, I have a raspy voice and people think I smoke. I don't really. But you bet your ass I'd be ripping menthols all day. There's like some like telescope lens,

grainy photos of Dorit with a cigarette that just like chef's kiss. Of course. We love Dorite. Chef's kiss. Yes. Okay, what moment lives rent-free in your head? Oh, I mean, I hate to be redundant,

but going back to keep your legs closed to married men. And when Sherey and Kim got in the fight outside of the steakhouse in Atlanta and she pulled the wig, that, that. Oh, and also I love Shiree. To me, the best quote that I go over and over again when they're like, so what's happening with Sherey by Sherey? And she's like, September. You know what I mean? Spring summer. Spring summer.

Yeah. Athleisure, joggers. More athletic. More ethleisure. That to me, her fighting for her life, trying to convince us that she by Shiree is actually. happening. That is that is iconic. I did buy a Shiba Shiree hat. How was it? Um, it's, it's fine. I got it at BravoCon a couple years ago. And I kind of blacked out. And they were like, oh, you get you get the Bravo Con discount. And I was like, oh, great. And so the trucker hat was

$35 with the discount. That's insane. It costs $2 today. That, yeah, that was a Alibaba white label. That's the, there you go. The Shibai Shiree hat. Okay. And if you were showing someone real housewives for the first time, what would you choose to start with? What would you sell them? Okay. I'd go back to O.C. When Vicki Gumbelson is going on her vacation to Cabo. And remember her ex-husband when he

shows up and he only got the... You know, she's like, you got a family van! He got a family man! There's ten of us. We have all this luggage. I would... That first season, that's what I would show with Gretchen Rossi and all them. If you were an alien and you landed on this planet, I would show you that episode.

I think that we don't... We don't give enough love to those, like, old OC seasons that really, like, they were still working out some of the kinks of, like, what this was going to be. Yeah. But, like, they really, there are some moments in there that are just incredible. When Tamara through the drink in Gina's face and I think, like, Gina slapped her, like, that to me, now, like you said earlier, they're a little bit more refined. These younger girls know what's happening.

No, back in the day, these women got, like, $20,000 an episode and they were slapping at each other. They were throwing, you know, chairs. They were flipping tables. Also, the Teresa flipping table moment to me is very iconic. Yeah. And, like, social media was barely a thing. Yes. They wrote their little... They lived freely. They wrote their little Bravo TV blogs. Remember the blogs? And then they would go to the confessional or they'd show up at the reunion. And they'd like, well, she wrote in this blog, da, da, da, and they would just, like, eat each other alive. If I could go back in time and be somebody's, like, ghost writer for their Bravo TV blog, I think that's, like, what I would do. All right, you're stranded on a deserted island. You can bring

five housewives with you. Who are you bringing? Oh, God. Um, I think, like, I think Kelly Bensonone would, like, find some stuff. She would. She would be, like, jungle goddess a little bit. Okay. After, like, 30 minutes of being there. Um, I think Fadre would be really entertaining. Probably not very useful, but, like, in a fun way. Um, I don't know. Maybe, like, I don't know. I feel like Robin Dixon could help, like, carry stuff. Oh, yeah. Love Robin. Um, she could, like, you know, put her to work kind of. Uh-huh. Um, I don't know, maybe, maybe like Crystal. I feel like she's resourceful.

Crystal is very, she's very smart. And then Tiffany Moon, you gotta have a doctor. There you go. Bam. A medic. A medic. Have a medic. Smart.

If I need anesthesia, you know. See, you were actually thinking about that logically. I'm like, who if I'm going to die, do I want to go down with? Who do I want to get drunk and die with? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And I'm like, Bethany would be too neurotic. I would go nuts. I think it would be, it would be Vicky, because she'd have life insurance for all of us, right?

It would be Vicky. It would be Kathy Hilton. It would be Sonia, Nini, and I got to choose somebody from Jersey, I feel. And maybe like Caroline Manzo, because she'd have like meatballs in her pocket, you know? Yeah, she's like lunch meat slices. Yeah, that'd be my crew. That'd be fun. That would be fun.

A little chaotic. I don't think you would survive. Oh, no, completely chaotic. But that's the thing is if I'm going to die, I know we're not getting off this island. Yeah. If I'm going to die, I just want to watch it burn. And I want that last moment to just be these five women just tearing at each other. Yeah, like if I'm on the Titanic going down, I want women yelling at each other on the deck.

Thank you. You get it. I don't want violence. I don't want, no, I don't want violence. I want to hear it. Keep your legs closed to married men. Oh, amazing. Thank you, Heather.

Oh, my God. Thanks for having me. Everybody should watch your special. It's on Hulu now. Watch it on Hulu. It's called Breadwinner. It's kind of hard to find. You have to go and literally type it in.

Type in Breadwinner. It's under movies. I don't know what. but go watch it. They put you right below Shogun. Literally. So when you get on there and you're like, hey, I don't see you immediately,

just go type it in. Thanks, love you, mean it. Thanks, everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool.

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