Mention It All - We SURvived Scandoval (VPR Reunion, RHOC Premiere)

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Dylan is back for one final Vanderpump Rules recap, breaking down a reunion episode where the Scandoval finally comes to a head. He’s mostly baffled by Sandoval’s seeming lack of any emotional str...ategy, and Raquel’s seeming lack of any emotion at all. He also shares some quick thoughts on the RHOC premiere, which sets us up for a fun season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:46 Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am Dylan Hafer, and I am coming to you solo today for one of the biggest days that we've had in a long time, because Vanderpump Rules, season 10 has come to a close. Last night I was at the official Bravo reunion watch party screening event. Sheena was there. Brock was there. Brittany and Jax were there. Lala was there until she had to leave to be on watch What Happens Live. Guys, it's all happening. I have now had the pleasure, the distinct pleasure, of seeing Sheena perform Good As Gold Live twice. I saw it at BravoCon when she dropped into a split. I saw it last night when it was a bit more impromptu, but no less thrilling.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Probably the highlight of the night was watching Lala film Sheena performing Good as Gold. The stage mom energy was palpable. It was very, it was very Amy Poehler and Mean Girls with the camp quarter in the aisle. And then, of course, they played the Vanderpumpurles theme song, a great time. And then we got to watch the uncensored, pumped up peacock, whatever version of the episode. And then I rewatched it again this morning because, let's be honest, I didn't retain a lot last night. It was all a blur. So I guess I'm recapping the pumped up edition.
Starting point is 00:02:15 So if there's anything I'm talking about that doesn't sound familiar, head to peacock. It's 67 minutes of reunion. and it felt like every second was vital. So I'm not sure what they cut to get it down to the hour 15 with commercials on TV. But, man, there was a lot to get into. Actually, you know what? I do know what they cut. Or I know what I hope they cut.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And that is Lisa Vanderpump talking about how a Vegas restaurant is doing and how the reunion set is decorated with the Nicolane collaboration. I don't give a fuck. we have so many more important things to talk about. I was even bored by the La La Raquel mistress conversation. There are certain topics where it's like, I know that this is a reunion that is supposed to unpack all of the stuff that happened all season. And I know that the whole season wasn't Scandival.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Obviously, there were other things to discuss, you know, Raquel and Schwartz making out. You know, it was a whole season's worth of, of, of, storylines. But some of these things, it's just like we don't need a whole segment on Oliver. Like, I don't need to hear Lisa Vanderpump talk about how Oliver is an exemplary employee at her restaurant in Vegas and this wife was estranged for however long. And now Lala and him are friends like, I don't care. Okay. So I already have walked back my statement that all 67 minutes were, you know, indisposable. But anyway, it was a great episode. Of course, we start out with Raquel taking the stage as Sheena retreats to her trailer, clutching that Ruby Red Grapefruit White Claw with a death grip.
Starting point is 00:04:04 She can't make a fist with those nails, but she certainly can hold on to that can. And the difference between Sheena's energy in the trailer and Raquel's energy in the trailer is so interesting. I mean, of course, Raquel watched this whole segment with, you know, a certain amount of nervous anticipation that she still had to go out there and perform, whereas Sheena, you know, her day was basically done by the time she was sitting in the trailer. But the emotions, the way Raquel sat there for those first two parts with, you know, barely any emotion on her face. And when she did show emotion, she was smiling. she was, you know, really just seeming calm to the point of like what's going through her system, I don't know, to Sheena being in the trailer. And she is activated.
Starting point is 00:05:04 She is amped the fuck up. Her eyes bulging. Her can gripped within an inch of its life. She's having vocal reactions. she's talking back to the camera. When Brock and Ali show up, they're like squad watching the show. I would give anything to be in that trailer with the three of them
Starting point is 00:05:24 watching the reunion. Ali and Sheena, like, I just love that they have each other. It just was the difference between when they would cut to Raquel in the trailer, and it's like, ugh, what now?
Starting point is 00:05:37 She still looks, you know, she's like looking at Sandoval, talking about her with like a smirk on her face. Whereas Sheena, like, she's feeling every one of the, these emotions. And I just don't, after three parts of this reunion, the thing that is kind of wild to me about Sandoval and Raquel as a pair and individually, is just that it seems like they had such a poor or non-existent strategy for how they were going to come across like
Starting point is 00:06:07 emotionally at the reunion. And it's, it's surprising only because Tom is so calculated, When it comes to stories and lies and explanations of things, you know, obviously we'll get to what happens at the end where Raquel kind of breaks that damn a little bit. But these things are so carefully planned out. But there seems to be no accounting for the fact that Tom is going to come across like the most vile person on the planet because of the way that he's answering. these questions, talking back to everyone on the other side of the couch, you know, it just feels like if you were going through all of this hassle of preparing for how you were going to handle questions at the reunion, why do you not have the mindset of like, I know I really fucked up so I should probably go in there and sort of just like, take it, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:12 take the beatings, take the verbal. abuse, you know, there's a lot coming their way. And, you know, if you need to get emotional, if there's something you need to clarify, that's great. But the defensive, the defensive kind of thing, the anger that's coming from Sandoval to the other people, the, the tendencies to bring up things that have happened in the past as if they excuse his own actions, it is, it's kind of baffling. And when they finish and they go back to the dressing room and Sannevaal saying, Oh, like to Raquel, you did way better than me. You did a great job.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And it's like, I don't know if Raquel did a great job. She certainly was more composed and seemed like less angry. Because the only, it feels like the only things she really pushed back on were James and Lala and, you know, saying, well, James and Lala can't talk because they fucked. And Lala's response to just saying, I wasn't your best friend, ho. you were a no name and then I met you and I fucking hated you. Like that, I mean, yeah, it's not a great situation. Lala's situation with Randall how they met, it wasn't great. All of this stuff that has added up in the past, it just feels like this is not the kind of
Starting point is 00:08:33 situation that is productive to try and go tip for tat for things that have happened in the past. And the fact that Tom and Raquel couldn't fathom that. couldn't realize that this was a situation that was on another level that had, you know, so many layers of betrayal within the group and of lies and of schemes and deceit and all of this stuff, that it's like actually bringing up, you know, whatever James did four seasons ago is not a compelling argument. And it's not only is it not a winning argument, but it is like an active losing argument because it makes it seem like you. don't actually think what you did is that bad because you're just going to throw out this thing that happened three years ago. Like it's, I shouldn't be surprised, I guess, but it is shocking to me. How, how ill prepared they seemed for, for the actual level of wrongdoing that they committed
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Starting point is 00:10:56 And, you know, this season she was focused on pleasing herself and, you know, just doing whatever was going to make her happy. This is, you know, they're talking about the girl's trip to Havasu. The comment she made about not trusting Lala with her, you know, that Lala says she wouldn't trust Raquel with her man and she's like, oh, good thing you don't have a man. Lala, of course, says her comment was spot on and that she wouldn't trust her around her man, case and point, Tom Sandoval. And that's the thing. Raquel, like, I think that the goal of not being a people pleaser is a good goal. That is something where if you, if it is a trait of yourself that you are constantly
Starting point is 00:11:36 doing things that are not in your best interest because you want to make everybody else happy, that is a solid thing to realize about yourself and to work on. But that is not synonymous with fucking your best friend's boyfriend. And, you know, Ariana is going to pick up that bone every time. She says he started pleasing my man. You know, Raquel is very quick to say that she was selfish. Ariana says that doesn't begin to cover it. And, you know, then Sandival just like can't help himself and start sticking up for
Starting point is 00:12:11 Raquel again. This is just, it's not going to work. There is no, there is no like, guys, take it easy. You know, that's not, it's just, it's tough to watch even. I, one of the moments that struck me the most was when Andy brings up this conversation that Raquel had at the finale with Ariana about their intimacy and her relationship with Tom. And Andy says, looking back, it seems diabolical. Andy using that word felt like a major statement because he, you know, Andy is not somebody who never plays favorites. It's not like super difficult to figure out like who Andy is sort of favoring a lot of the time. But for him to use a word like diabolical describing somebody on the cast, like it's a pretty strong statement. He wouldn't say that about just anybody.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But Raquel says, he, Andy asks if Raquel had incurred. Tom to break up with Ariana. And she says, well, I encouraged him to reflect and see if he was happy. And I was doing that as a friend, first and foremost. Of course, this is after they have been having sex. And she says that in the conversation with Ariana, she was coming from a point of genuinely seeing if she wanted to be in the relationship. It's just, you know, Ariana's like, well, first of all, the answer was yes. I did. And at that point, you had already fucked my man. So like, don't act like this is a conversation that we were having on an even level when you were already lying to me about so many things. And this comes back again and again, this idea of, oh, well, you know, we weren't fucking.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We had fuckered one time before then. And Tom Sandvall is very focused on this idea that it wasn't an active thing that was happening. You know, he says later, you know, well, I wasn't doing anything at the time. This is about the night at the Abbey coming out that they were dancing together. He was like, I wasn't worried about being exposed because there was nothing going on. And the problem is he just cannot seem to accept or wrap his mind around the fact that when you're in a relationship and you cheat on your partner with a person, whether it happens one time or a hundred times, that person is now and forever somebody that you have had this inappropriate relationship with. Whether it is a current relationship or something that happened one time,
Starting point is 00:14:52 it is something that happened. And in this case, it was something that was a secret and a lie, you know, a story that they had been constructing. And Ariana's like, first of all, even if it was one time, then the fact that you were carrying on this friendship with her, it's no longer just a friendship. It's somebody that you had sex with and kept it a secret and lied about it. And now are continuing whatever inappropriate relationship, even if it's not currently, you know, as Ariana says, even if your dick wasn't in her crusty vagina at that specific moment, it just is, it's wild to me. And this is the thing where I don't think that Tom doesn't get it.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I think that he won't or can't admit it because he still is clinging to this idea that what they did wasn't as bad as it is. And if he acknowledges the fact, which now we know because of Raquel's admissions at the end of the episode, that in fact they had had sex numerous times by then, he loses his footing. He loses his ability to kind of construct this. worldview where it was a one-time thing or a, you know, a maybe this happened, but it's not happening. It's very Oprah, Megan Markle interview, like, were you silent or silenced? It's like it, you guys had sex. Like, nobody did this to you. They all, they keep saying mistake. It's like, no, it, it wasn't a mistake because you say later in the episode, they both
Starting point is 00:16:33 individually say that. they are in love. In the words of Lisa Rina, own it, baby. If you're in love with each other, if you're carrying on a relationship with each other, calling it a mistake is the opposite of that. If you said, if Tom was, if Tom and Raquel had gotten wasted and hooked up one time and then it never happened again, maybe you can get away with saying that's a mistake. I fucked up. It was a one-time thing. It didn't mean anything. You just said you're in love.
Starting point is 00:17:12 If you're saying you're going to see where your relationship goes, you know, end up a year from now in the poo-poo house, as James says, that's not a mistake. It's a choice that you made. And you can make bad choices and you can regret choices that you've made. But a mistake implies some kind of accident or something going wrong. And the thing that Tom and Raquel can't seem to acknowledge is that there was never a way for this to not go wrong because of the way that it happened so negatively. In her confessional at the end, Raquel says that she had this idea that maybe they could be in a thruple together. Tom shoots this down, but she was like, you know, it didn't seem that far fetched because obviously, like, I loved Sandoval sexually and I love Arianna. like as a person. So like wouldn't that just work out? And the thing is that is like so, it's so dismissive of what the idea of like being in an actual thruple or like polyamorous situation is because you were already having sex with him behind Ariana's back. And so then you think you're
Starting point is 00:18:30 going to break the news to her. Like what? You're just going to be like, oh, I, let's be in a Thruple starting today. Like, no, it still would be built on a foundation of lies or a foundation of betrayal. Like, that's not how that works. People who are in situations like that, that is an open, active, evolving conversation that you have with your partner and then you make decisions based on that. You don't go to your partner and give them, what, an ultimatum and say, well, so I've been fucking your friend and I really like it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And I guess I love her. So either we're going to be in a thruple or this is over. Like that's, Raquel even pretending that that was like a workable scenario is kind of hilarious. Like, in a way, there are certain times when Raquel is speaking. And like, I don't like to call people dumb. Like, I usually I let La Laa do that. But like there are certain times when Raquel is talking.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And it's like, babe. What did you think was going to happen? Like, are you being 100% for real right now? I guess speaking on the Thruple conversation, Andy asks about this open relationship rumor that apparently was going around that Tom and Ariana were, you know, fluid or whatever. And Ariana says that Raquel told her that Tom had said something like this around Coachella last year. So this is months before Guys Night at the Mondrian, before filming, before all of that. Tom says that he never said anything like that.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Ariana says that then Raquel must be lying, making it up. Raquel, of course, denies saying that to Ariana. And the moment where Tom turns to his left and under his breath, looks directly at Raquel, glares at Raquel, and goes, what the fuck? And Raquel's looking at him like, that was very telling to me. Because that is the kind of energy where clearly these two had so many
Starting point is 00:20:53 just like layers of bullshit happening. And whether Tom said something or Raquel misconstruited or, you know, Tom is lying about saying it in the first place or Raquel's lying about telling Ariana, the way he looks at her and is like, what the fuck? That was a little scary to me. And I think I said this on Twitter. To me, when Lala said previously that Sandoval is like a dangerous man in the way that Randall kind of is, that felt like a glimpse of that. Because if you're in a relationship with someone and there's, you know, some kind of disagreement
Starting point is 00:21:32 happening. And it feels like in that moment, it felt like a threatening look over at Raquel in a way. And like obviously this Coachella, whatever open relationship situation is like one small piece of this whole puzzle. But when Raquel sat down for that last confessional interview and was talking about betraying Sandoval and going back on these lies that they had agreed on, I don't want to know what the first conversation was like,
Starting point is 00:22:02 between Tom and Raquel after he saw that she had done that or after she told him, I don't know if she told him or if he saw this, you know, a screener or when he found out about those things that she had disclosed. I can't imagine it went great.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I can't imagine that he was thrilled because it really, it paints him as this disturbed puppet master. You know, like if Jepetto did bath salts.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And it's like, I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with that person. And it kind of seems like Raquel is already starting to question herself. I mean, they say they're in love. James is like, yeah, he's going to cheat on you. Like, okay, great. That's not going to, it's not going to be a happily ever after. I don't know. I can't see it ending.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Can't see it ending well for anybody in the room. Oh, God. But Raquel, you know, she says, you know, she felt seen by Tom. She goes back to her people pleaser explanation. She felt seen by Tom. Nobody had ever made her feel like that. Ariana is like, you know, you didn't feel seen by me, your best friend. You know, I cried in your arms about Charlotte, all of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Like, Raquel's explanations of, you know, needing love and affection and all of this stuff. It's like, I get why you could be seduced by someone, maybe. But then the way that it, you know, snowballed into this relationship, it's really tough. Ariana says, my dog had just died. I cried in your arms and you thought, I should go fuck her boyfriend. And this is my favorite part of the episode. She said, you're a dementor. I know you like Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:23:56 What a dig. I, oh, sick, burnt. I know you like Harry Potter. You're a dementor. I hope Charlotte haunts you. You're a soul-sucking individual. Ooh, ooh. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Ariana really, obviously we all love Ariana. Team Ariana, you know, she's a queen, whatever. She's getting all her endorsements in the words of Jen Aden's psychic. endorsements, endorsements, endorsements. But Ariana, this part of the reunion was so activated in a way that was absolutely thrilling. Her saying that Raquel is rotten on the inside like a fucking moldy piece of fruit. Her grasp of the English language in this episode is so, so vivid, so visceral.
Starting point is 00:25:00 She says that Rekyll should fuck herself with a cheese grater. That's an image. She was kind of giving to me Julia Louis Dreyfus in Vip level of of reeds, you know, just dragging Rekyll and Tom across the room.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You know, just fully grab them by the scalp and drag them across the floor. And that, it was, it was kind of a healing energy, I think. Because we've seen, you know, there's so much hurt. And of course, she's hurt in this episode. You know, she, when Schwartz weirdly asks a question about, he's like, you know, it was, it was kind of funny that while you were humiliated and she's like, first of all, not humiliated,
Starting point is 00:25:42 that's them. But like, while you were going through this hard time, the country was rallying around you. Like, that's kind of funny, huh? And it's like, first of all, like, okay, are you still sad about your Yelp reviews? Yeah, go cry about it. Nobody cares about your fucking Yelp reviews. But anyway, you know, he like weirdly asks this question and she's like, he's like, how did it feel? And that's what, like, Ariana gets so emotional.
Starting point is 00:26:10 She says that having everyone rally around her, her friends, her family, strangers, people watching the show, that that's really what got her through. And then, you know, for that first week and a half, she wasn't eating. she had people staying with her every night. She felt like she needed to be babysat. Having that support, it's so meaningful to her. And you can see how you can see her still working through sort of the stages of grief for this relationship. Because I think it's important to remember that they taped this reunion about three weeks after the Scandival news broke.
Starting point is 00:26:47 So three weeks after Ariana found out, were of course watching it three months. after. So it feels like there's been more distance than there actually was when they taped this. But like, damn, it's a lot. It's a lot. And you know, Tom is mad. It sucks that Tom didn't get some text messages from some people that were mutual friends. It's like, go away. Okay, imagine, imagine your friends with both people in a couple. And you find out, on TMZ. So I guess imagine your friends are famous. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And you find out that one of them was cheating on the other for seven months with the best friend of the other one, all behind the scenes, you know, behind their back, lies, lies, lies, lies, zazazazazazazazazaz. And you're like, okay, obviously I'm going to text or call or, you know, check on Ariana. what would you text Tom in that scenario? The only thing that I can think that you would text Tom would be like, wow, it seems like you're a piece of shit. I thought I knew you. I guess I don't. How could you do that to my friend who I was friends with both of you and I thought you had a relationship that was, you know, on a level? Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I never thought that you would be capable of something this awful. I don't think I want to have someone like you as a friend anymore. Like, does he think he's going to get sympathy texts? Does he think that people who are also friends with Ariana are going to text him and be like, hey, man, hope you're doing okay in all of this? It's like, no. When somebody like, like, no. I truly don't understand.
Starting point is 00:28:51 like, what does he think was going to happen? He's like, oh, it just hurt to see, you know, it hurt to see people going to social media and, like, posting, like, funny memes instead of texting me. It's like, okay, yeah, like, I don't know. If I was, like, close personal friends with Tom, maybe I wouldn't be posting memes about him. But I also wouldn't be like, oh, dude. Seems like you're really going through it. You really screwed the pooch on this one, huh? Like, no.
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Starting point is 00:30:58 He was really hot. Get the fuck out. The way that every single person on the couch is like shocked and appalled in the trailer, Allie clutching her face in her hands, Sheena on 100. Tom Schwartz with his head in his lap. Don't say that. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Don't say that. It's like this man, the audacity of Tom Sandoval, to be in a position like this, you are in a palace of shit, as James Kennedy would say, of your own making. And you think that right then is the time to make a dig at the woman who you say, you have never loved anyone more than her. You're sobbing, sobbing about how much you've hurt her and you feel so bad
Starting point is 00:32:01 and you can't believe you did this and it was a mistake. And you think that like that exact moment is the time to make a dig about her wearing a t-shirt when you had sex like however many months ago. This, like, what do you think is going to happen?
Starting point is 00:32:26 You think that people are going to watch this and be like chill about it? He has been on TV for 10 years. He has been on every single episode of Vanter Pump Rules. I think. I don't know. Check the IMDB. It seems like every single episode.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And you have no concept that you're saying things right now that are going to make you look like a fucking asshole. Like, yeah, okay, yeah, the Yelp reviews aren't going to be good, brother. I don't know. I don't know if I've ever been this heated on an episode before. Wow. I'm really, really, really feeling it. I guess closing loop, you know, we're on, we're on Raquel's final interview.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like I've, like I've mentioned, she feels the need to come clean about some things. The producer, God bless the producer, who is doing this confessional with her. I don't know if it's Jeremiah or somebody else. He says, you did maintain some untruths at the reunion, huh? Some lies? So first of all, she says that they, the second time they had sex was in Mexico, and they actually hooked up multiple times while they were in Mexico for Shino's wedding, which, of course, was while they were still filming and, you know, early in the timeline, she said it, quote, picked up Speed more after they finished filming.
Starting point is 00:33:52 She has met Sandival's mom. She says that happened in L.A. The producer asks if she's been to St. Louis. She first says, I can't recall. Bitch. I can't recall. Okay, plead the fifth. This is not a court of law.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You're fighting for your job on this TV show. Answer the damn question. She then, I love, she says I can't recall. They flash a photo of her and Tom standing in front of the fucking St. Louis, riding the horse statue. I'm from St. Louis. That is like the most, one of the most, one of the most, I could. iconic places in the city. It's at the top of this majestic hill, right in front of the art museum, which is like this beautiful old building. There's this majestic statue of the dude on
Starting point is 00:34:39 the horse. I guess, is that St. Louis? They took a picture there. This is, what, four months before you can't recall. Nice try. She eventually confirms it. She's a horrible liar. She gets this smirk in her eyes and then the you've been on this show for how many seasons you get this smirk in your eyes when you're telling an obvious lie and you think the producer isn't going to be like Raquel babe I can tell you're lying she is so bad at this
Starting point is 00:35:09 it is wild so then you know they ask about jacuzzi night which is you know beach day into jacuzzi night Ariana was out of town for the funeral this is when Tom Zanzvo and Raquel spent the night so she says they did not hook up that night. Again, the obvious lie face. So the producer, you know, it's like, well, you've ripped the
Starting point is 00:35:32 band-aid off. What's one more detail? Spill the tea, Mama. She says, well, he's, he's asked me not to disclose certain things. And, you know, I feel like, Tom is the one person I still do have on my side. So I feel bad about betraying him because I don't want to lose him because then I'll have no one. And it's like, again. Like, yeah, that. that sounds like it sucks. I wonder who caused that situation to occur. If it ain't the consequences of your own actions. But she says that is the one story that they've agreed on getting straight, which first of all is not true.
Starting point is 00:36:11 They've lied about many things and coordinated many lies. And Tom wanted to lie because it's a, quote, a really bad look to like hook up with like your friend's boyfriend, like in your own house. Well, she's out of town for like a funeral. Like, yeah, it's a bad look. And you did it, which like, like, don't speak great things about your character and choices and all of that. But so, in fact, yes, they did hook up that night, which like a fucking course they did. You were, they were actively hooking up at that point. And she spent the night at the house.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Did anybody ever really think that she slept in the guest room? No, we're not dumb. She's dumb. She's the dumb one. I'm sorry. Anyway, that's pretty much all she wrote for Vanderpump Rules. I don't know if the reveal in the last five minutes was like as shocking and explosive as they kind of led us to believe it would be. I do think it was very, it was fascinating from like a personal standpoint, watching Raquel in real time work through decisive.
Starting point is 00:37:30 what lies to uphold. Because even, I don't really believe even after that, that we have the 100% full, unabridged truth of everything that happened. I think there probably are still certain details that are being left out, certain things that are being, you know, edited, coached, whatever. I, I at one point was thinking that the reveal was going to be that they had hooked up prior to Guys Night at the Mondrian, perhaps even when Raquel was still with James. Who knows? We may never know. Maybe they didn't. I don't know anything. But just to see Raquel as kind of a character study of somebody who is so, so lost. And I don't mean this in a way of like, oh, poor her, she's so lost. so lost on a soul and consciousness level of like who what the fuck is going on in there.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's, it's, wow. You know, I've been talking for, what is it, 36 minutes. I really, I have three whole pages of notes on the Orange County premiere. I was going to do like a double recap situation. I had more thoughts than I anticipated about the Vanderpump reunion. Perhaps that was a, perhaps that was a poor planning on my part. The OC premiere, honestly, good episode of TV. A few complaints.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Was it the most explosive premiere we've ever had? No, but maybe that is for the best because obviously there's not a lot of time to talk about it. I will say, I like that they are setting up this Tamara and Shannon thing. for next week. You know, they have their, their reunion at New Jen's yoga retreat for her. Sorry, I can't not talk about. Gen, New Gen, Jen Padranti, has a yoga studio called Devil Rebel, which is just, just perfect. The most, like, white lady Orange County thing to have a yoga studio called Devil Rebel. She met Tamara at Cut Fitness. I guess they knew before.
Starting point is 00:39:51 that. I don't know. But Jen's yoga retreat being the first kind of group event of the season is just chef's kiss. The lady leading the yoga class has very like Whitney Roseface. She's like, okay, so first of all, you're going to exhale and then you're going to inhale. Okay, good. Now, exhale again? I just, I love it. You know, Gina and Heather are feeling distant. Surprise, surprise. Their friendship that they formed last year. season wasn't, you know, the relationship of a lifetime, but we will see where that goes. You know, Tamara has said mean things about Emily, I guess. You know, there's some good stuff cooking, and we will have weeks and weeks and weeks to talk about it. I think it was only right to give
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