Mention It All - We’re All Alone On Scary Island Now (RHONY Rewind)

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

For a special throwback episode, Bari and Dylan do a deep dive into RHONY’s iconic Scary Island trip. But first, they critique the costumes from this week’s RHONJ Halloween party, including Teresa as a cotton candy unicorn. From there, it’s all about candy queen Kelly Bensimon, whose behavior still makes no sense 10 years later. They revisit the debate about whether Bethenny is a cook or a chef, and discuss Jill’s ill-advised decision to surprise the ladies in St. John. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep, we. Hi, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. I just had like an overwhelming urge to do that intro in an Australian accent,

and I did it at the last second. And I was going to surprise you and say, it's Friday, Friday. If you missed last Friday's episode, I was really disappointed that Barry didn't sing to me. But thank you for making it up today. Sean, our producer, is telling me to do the accent. So should I just, should I do the, should I do the holiday episode talking about these? The whole episode is a lot. Okay.

So today we've got a couple of topics to talk about. We're going to do? No, I'm, I, that is enough. We are doing a very special fun throwback moment episode. We're going to talk about the Real House of New York, scary island trip, iconic stuff. If you want to watch along, it's season three episode 12, sun, sand, and psychosis is the one that we're talking about. I had so much fun rewatching this. I, I don't know when the last time was. It's been a, it's been a minute. I don't, I definitely. wasn't having fun. I was having traumatic, like,

it is. It's like, I was like feeling it on a personal level. I was like, I don't know what I would do if I was there, but we will get into it because there's a lot of shit to discuss with Miss Kelly Ben-Simon. Oh my, Kelly Coloren Ben-Simon to you. Oh, what a. KKB.

Before we get into it, last night was the Real House of New Jersey Halloween party, which is, I believe most likely going to be the season finale for their upcoming season. It's been a while since we've seen Halloween on New Jersey. It's fun. One of the only good things about the COVID delays and shutdowns and stuff is that we're seeing some of our housewives film in different seasons than they normally do.

So it's fun. We're going to get a Halloween moment in New Jersey. Yeah. I mean, I remember I'm still on, as you guys recall, I'm on my New Jersey journey right now. like stop because I'm just, I can't say this enough that I'm on the worst season ever made in all franchise history, which is six, the one with the twins and Amber and Dina came back. It's whole season itself should be removed. But they didn't have a Halloween party.

They had like a dress-up party one night and it was a hero, like they dress up as like nurses, doctors, fire men. Okay, I was thinking of that party only because I remembered Amber in that tragic cop costume. And I couldn't remember if it was Halloween or just. like a theme party. It was a really weird theme party, but enough about them. Last night's costumes were,

um... A mixed bag. Yeah, I do have to say my number, you guys, it's on Instagram, Margaret, oh my God, wins. Margaret runs.

Mortish, oh my God. Mortisha and Gomez. Anything Adam's family. Yeah, is just like winning for me because I am Wednesday Adams in another. Margaret looks good with black hair.

I'm into it. You know who doesn't. Jackie has looked back. No, you guys know, I'm a huge fan of Jackie, but this Sunny and Cher was like, Sunny and Cher is like the easiest cost. One of the easiest, but we've seen like icons do it. Like Kim Kardashian is an iconic like share costume.

And just like Jackie and Evan just didn't do it well. I will say like I don't think the costume was like, it wasn't inaccurate. Like I can tell it's a sunny, it's a decent shirt. Sonny and Cher costume, but it looks like when you go to the store and buy the share costume out of the bag. Whereas like people have done like a couture share costume and there are like, you can do so many over the top looks and they did kind of like the cheapest version of it,

which, you know, Evan looked very cute in his little fringy wig. But he looked like Ken from Toy Story. Like he didn't look like sunny. No. Okay. I have to say though, the costume that I think is going to haunt me for right now. is Joe Gorga in his Merman outfit. Guys, what? I have, Jersey, like, brings it. And last night, I literally had to ask Dylan, I go, what are, I didn't know what Joe Gorga was. To myself, I go, was he a shark? Was he like a shark attack victim? Like, what? Then I saw Melissa and I go, and she said she was a mermaid. I was, I go, is that a mermaid costume? What?

It's very, like, I wanted to wear a little crop top and a skirt and, like, I guess it has scales on it. So I'm a mermaid. Yeah. Mira on the wall. I don't think I look like a mermaid at all. Okay, well, mine is different. Who's going to haunt me is our girl Dilo? Because what,

guys, I love them, but I'm like, oh my God, I can't get over these costumes. What was Dolores? I said to Dillon, I think she was a contoured zombie, which is funny if you think about it. But it didn't execute right. Like a plastic surgery car crash victim. I don't like there were like bandages, blood, but also she's, I can't tell if she is in like

just wearing like glam and that's how her face looks or if she like, I don't know. I don't know. But then we're also both indifferent about Teresa's costume who looked so cute. But Dylan claims she is a unicorn cotton candy and my first look I thought she was a lufa. But I think I'm going with you because she's holding cotton candy and she has a horn. I don't know. No, no, no, I don't know. I literally, I thought cotton candy, and then I saw the horn, and I was like, well, she can't not be a unicorn if she has a horn coming out of her head.

But Teresa, I feel like is not really a costume kind of girl. Like, she likes to look, she likes to look glam and dress fun, and she can be over the top. But I feel like a Halloween costume is not really her area of expertise. I can't think of any iconic Teresa costumes. Maybe I'm blanking on that, but. Right. So was some, was like Audriana like, Mom, go is cotton candy. Oh my God. Audriana. I, and then we had new house, new, we think she's a housewife, Michelle in a fun cat costume, I guess. Good for her. Oh, and Jennifer Aiden was Jennifer Lopez in the

jungle dress. She looked good. I didn't see a picture of her. I would recommend it. She looks stunning. So that's going to be fun. I love when we get a good costume party, and I think New Jersey Halloween should be a fun trip. And we will talk about it again when it airs. Well, yeah, like six months for now, we'll be talking about Halloween.

It'll be like, remember when? Oh, God, we'll be gray and old. Girl, winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night.

And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. So let's get into this scary island episode. So we open up there on this yacht that Ramona has gotten them. I forgot that the whole, I forgot that the whole alleged reason for

this trip was celebrating Ramona's 17th wedding anniversary. Of course, without Mario there. It's so funny how most, like, a lot of these housewives trips have these, like, reasons that they go on the trip. And some of them are so far-fetched. It's like, nobody gives a shit about Ramona's 17th anniversary. Also, is that really why you're going if you're not renewing your vows and Mario's not there? Like, no, you're going on a girl's trip.

And it's just another reason for Ramona to be in charge. Like, like, I've never seen someone so excited about showing them a mansion that she picked out. Like, yay. When she was like, it's hard to find something better than the yacht, but I did it. And then she's running around the house. And she, these women, for how much, like, adjacent to rich and fame and whatever, like, they act like they have never been in a nice house before. I know.

Well, I. It's a beautiful house, but. It was beautiful. but I mean, it's so funny seeing Ramona then and now. She does the same shit. She said to one of the people working at the house, like, I love this oatmeal, but when you make it for me tomorrow, can you just not add salt? Like this woman thinks she, like, literally lives in a castle and a faraway land.

But you know what? Some people, when they go on vacation, that's just, you can't separate you two. It's very unfortunate. I also, another thing that I kind of forgot about, sort of. of a minor drama in the grand scheme of things is Kelly's insistence that Bethany is not a chef. She is a cook. And then when Bethany is explaining that she is a chef and she's worked and, you know, whatever, Kelly's like, well, I don't know.

I don't know what you've done. And Bethany's like, why would you, then why would you say that I'm not a chef? She's like, I don't know, Bethany. Like, Bethany, stop. Right off the bat, even before things get like really. off the rails, it's just so clear that Kelly could not have, you know, a real conversation like a normal person. Nothing has been more clear in that episode than Kelly not being able to have a conversation.

It was very weird. The whole thing, I know I always compare Real Housewives to, like, high school, but this episode specifically was like when Kelly is like finally has like the courage to like talk to like the popular girls and then it just like spirals out of control. It's like, no, no, you should have stayed at your lunch table. Like, that's really weird. And, like, she's going off, like, foot and mouth. Like, you're a cook.

You're not a chef. And then when Bethany was like, can you just, this is so typical Bethany. Can you just define both of those for me? And Kelly was like, no, like, I can't, because they're the same thing. They're this. She's like, you know, oh, her reasoning was, Bethany, you don't work in a restaurant. Like, only chefs work in restaurants. That's the final.

Yeah, the whole thing with that is that it's like, at the end of the day, one, it doesn't matter. Bethany's doing whatever she's doing. It doesn't matter what you label her. Two, Kelly doesn't actually know. Like, whatever difference there might actually be, Kelly, A, doesn't know the difference, and B doesn't know what Bethany's actually doing.

Right. And yeah, it was bizarre. But the thing is with Bethany is she doesn't, I think she does have a good heart. And she was cooking for the women. She was chefing for the women. She was doing that. She brought and she, because she likes doing that.

She was doing it, not doing it for praise. She loves doing that. We've seen that throughout season. So another thing Bethany did was she made up skinny girl themed bags for the women with their, with their initials monogram, just like a cute vacation bag. And they only showed Kelly receiving hers. And the reaction was so beyond me that Kelly started crying. She goes, I just don't get this girl. Like, I just don't get her.

It's all skinny girl. It's creepy. Bitch, she was doing a nice gesture. She wasn't trying to sell you a skinny girl fucking margarita. I feel like... He was giving a sunscreen. You and I have both been in positions before where we get, like, a PR package or a, you know, a gift bag or something like that. And it's just not that weird.

And I know, I know for a fact that Kelly would have been in positions like that before. So it's like to act like, it's like she purposely misunderstood. what was going on here. And it's like, no, it's just like a little gift bag of a bunch of like goodies that she put in there. It's not supposed to be, you know, Bethany doesn't think that's like the nicest gift that anyone has ever received.

She just like threw a little bag together. Come on. And the other thing is a part of me is like, is Kelly just like, I should have done something like. Like what is her? Those people like just like really get to me because I'm like, what is the point of your reaction right now? Is there something like, like, why are you?

I'm very confused. Other than the fact that Kelly is on this trip, just thinking in the back of her head that Bethany's there to kill her, that's another. Right. So she's having nightmares that Bethany is stabbing her, like, he, he, he, and then...

I threw up last night. I threw up last night. This is when she calls Jill and says that she's scared. And honestly, this phone call really said a lot of things in motion because if Kelly had not called Jill, Jill would never have had the idea to show up unannounced at the house. And I think some things might be different if that hadn't happened

because we've heard Jill talk over the years about how that was really painful, how she basically got turned away when she showed up to the house. I mean, the whole thing with Kelly is just so ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. And that reminds me, though, of what Jill said this episode, because Kelly kept saying, especially to Jill, I have no one. I'm alone.

Then why did you go on the trip? I'm just like confused by that. That's number one. If you felt that going into the trip also, then we pan to Jill and Lou's dinner date. And Jill was like, I would never go somewhere. I'm not welcome. Well, then clearly you are not on the same piece as the rest of the women because I don't think you are welcome there.

When Jill and Lou have their little meeting, it was. It's rough to watch back. I know hindsight is 2020, but it's like, Luann, you can tell she knows 100%. It's not a good idea for Jill to go to that trip. And she, you know, I think she does a good job of being diplomatic and kind of like, oh, you're, I mean, she's like asking kind of prodding questions, but then obviously Jill wants to go. And, you know, Lou can't tell her not to. And it's just like, oh, God, I can see the train wreck coming from a while away. There was no changing, there was no changing Jill's mind with going.

So Luanne was like kind of acting. She was like, like hand on head. She was like, I don't know if I, I don't know what I would do. And I was like, Luanne, great job. Great job with the dramatic. This was very much in the phase of Luan where she was still like class with the countess. And it's fun to revisit that.

It was like, it was annoying at the time, a lot of the time. But it's like fun to go back and be like, oh, Lou had this like fun, different energy. And she's look at all. It's Victoria's 15th birthday. And I love that she, they. were like laughing about how Victoria's birthday was just an excuse not to go on the trip. Plan B is a backup birth control option that's there for you when things don't go according to plan. It specifically works after unprotected sex and before pregnancy occurs by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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almost like me being like, I fucking love to paint and I've never touched a paintbrush in my life. That is equivalent. So you could say that she's not a photographer. She's a picture taker. Yeah, totally. So she is on the beach and Ramona and Sonia are fucking loving this because when have these women not loved the camera? And they are making it seem like they are on an excursion for Sports Illustrated and

finding the cover model. And Alex is just not. she's not that. Like she, Kelly kept going, give me curbs. Give me more curves. And I was like,

what does that mean, Kelly? Give me curves. She's just walking in the water with the sunglasses and the floppy hat. And then, of course,

the most iconic moment is when Kelly tells Alex to think of Johann, her little son and how, you know, he just has this baby face. And then, so,

Alex is walking on the beach. And Kelly's like, Johan face, Yohan face, Alex. Come on, give me Johan, baby face. And then she's looking at a picture. She goes, that's so hot.

That's so hot. And it's like, wha. But it's so, like, and Kelly was like laid out a blanket. And she's throwing, she's opening a bag. Like, she brought these insane props. And she's throwing blow pops all over the blanket. And I was like, what is your vision for this? It reminds me of like Bugsie doing table decor.

And they're like, wow, it looks so good. And she's just throwing like lollipops on the table. It was so much. But it was so funny because in the background, I don't know if you noticed this. While she was taking pictures of Ramona, there was someone in the water rolling around, like making fun of them,

it seemed like she was rolling around in the water. Then when she was taking pictures of Alex, Sonia and Ramona were having their own photoshoot in the back. And guys, this is before iPhones because their digital camera battery was about to die. And I was like, this is amazing. Me and my girlfriends used to never leave the house without our digital cameras, literally.

It is so funny thinking about that, that you would get like a new one every couple years and like you would have to like plug it into the computer and like upload the photos. Yes. And make a Facebook album. I kind of missed that. I feel like that was a simpler time. I know.

That being said, I like that I can have my phone in my pocket with like 20,000 photos on it. But bring back the digital camera. Can you still buy those? Yes. Of course you can. People like don't, there are photocidal. Other than Kelly Ben-Simone, there are like photographers out there. Well, yeah, but I'm not going to spend like a thousand dollars.

on like a good camera. Like on vacation, they don't use their iPhone. They bring like digital cameras even though there's no difference. But like storage space wise, they have digital cameras. If you're a photography fan, write in and let us know your digital camera recommendations. Because yes, maybe I want to waste a few hundred dollars on one of those. Okay, let's go right back on track to dinner that. Dinner that Bethany cooked again.

And here is something that brought us right back to this past season of New York. Kelly is on her phone in the middle of appetizers and drinks. And Ramona, who was actually pretty pleasant, I have to say, I'm not usually on Ramona's side, said, sweetheart, would you just mind going into the other room? Literally exactly like that. And Kelly, oh my God, you would, I don't know. I don't know what you would think someone told her to do. But she blew up.

And this reminded me of this past episode with Dorinda and the phone, which I don't want to mention because, you know. The weird thing was, it was like, why would you come? She came down and right away was like, I just need to call C. It's like, why wouldn't you do that in the room before you come down? It's not even necessarily like an etiquette thing. It's like, why would you wait until you're downstairs with the group to make your phone call? And again, she's like, it's my daughter.

And no one is questioning your daughter. It's your fucking etiquette. Leave the room. Right. And then come back. Ramona wasn't like, I don't give a shit about your daughter. She's like, just don't make the both all in the room. This whole, I mean, this whole dinner is just a nightmare from start to finish. Like, Bethany is doing her best.

She makes the sauces from scratch and Kelly like doesn't believe it. And then things are just downhill from there. It's really a lot. This is very, I know we have some. Jersey Shore fans listening. And I'm sorry, I can always just compare things to different things. Kelly purposely not eating Bethany's food, whether it be the salsa. She was like, did you make this all by yourself?

All by yourself. No, Bethany had fucking helped chopping like mangoes for the mango salsa. She was, did you make this by yourself? So she didn't eat the salsa and then she didn't eat the crab cake. That totally reminds me of Sammy, sweetheart, purposely not eating J. Wow's dinner. See, I was getting, I was getting below deck chartered. guest vibes from Kelly when she was like when she was like what's in the salsa um i don't i don't like

this like when bethany had to take back the steak and get her a new one it's like it's just not the way you would treat a friend who's cooking dinner for you it's the way you would it's the way an asshole would treat a chef on a charter boat like but again i totally agree but again kelly was giving me jealousy vibes like maybe kelly was jealous like just with the gift bags maybe kelly's like, again, Bethany's now doing this nice gesture cooking dinner and I don't do shit. Well, her gift was her gift was the photo shoot, Barry. Don't sell her short. Oh, you're right.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I mean, the whole thing just go, she's telling people to zip it. And the weird thing, though, is that it's like she will, she'll get involved in the conversation. And then the second somebody else starts to respond or even answer directly to what she said, she just like goes off on her own thing. Like when she's talking to Alex and she is like, she gives her this nice compliment that she's like,

you know, earlier today I saw a side of you that was like really, you know, vulnerable and great. And like it was so nice to see that like whatever. And Alex is being really open about how she was nervous to get in front of Kelly's camera because blah, blah, blah, blah. And all of a sudden Kelly is like just insulting Alex and like ripping Alex and like ripping into her again and telling her to zip it. Yeah, it's very bizarre.

It's, it's, um, she also started going on a tangent about Ramona and Bethany, like, making out. And everyone was like, what are you like, you're making things weird. Like, and then she went off and got jelly beans. So it was like a whole.

Yeah. The Bethany and Ramona moment was weird because it was like, Ramona was actually having a nice moment of apologizing to Bethany for that Brooklyn Bridge fiasco. And Kelly, Kelly is like, she can't even, I don't even think she really, like, knows what's going on at this point. I think she's just kind of in her own little, like, bubble. But she's like, yeah, she's making fun of them. And then, you know, Bethany says, you can't handle the truth.

And then Kelly starts calling her Al Sharpton. And it's like very strange. And then she brings up when Bethany attacked her friend Gwyneth. And she's like, Gwenith. Just who? I nearly fell off my bed. I nearly fell off my bed.

I couldn't. I would love to know Gwyneth Paltrow's thoughts on Bethany versus Kelly. Yeah, but I would die if Gwantith was like, no, we go way back. Kelly is one of my good friends. Well, I believe, I mean, the thing is, like, Kelly probably does know a lot of people because when she was married to Gilles-Benzimon, like, he is. like famous but it's like okay you're not bringing up your friend Gwyneth in this context

I know name dropping and housewives is one of my favorite pastimes yes you know sonia party with John John and Madonna so but then Bethany screams go to sleep which I love it's one of her most iconic Bethany has a lot of iconic lines one being mentioned at all which we love but go to sleep and I thought that was like the perfect, like, dead to a, to an argument because there was nothing else. All the women were like, there's nothing.

There's actually no talking to you, you psycho. Right. And they had gotten to this point where it was clear that Kelly was not just being messy, but like actually something was going on with her. Like she wasn't in a good place or, you know, it's what I don't think we'll ever quite know exactly what happened that night. but it's like at a certain point just yelling at someone is not

you know not gonna work so Sonia was kind of like okay we need to just like get her to go to bed because nothing good is gonna come up this. Yeah I mean I'm upset because all I wanted is see in here I mean it's not the end all be all we could very

much watch the next episode but that next episode when a certain someone arrives and says I feel like we're gonna finish recording and you're going to go watch it right now. I might. I have to finish Gossip Girl. But but anyway,

Dill, from this throwback episode, which are so fun, by the way, who is your Bravo Lab? Oh, I don't know. Actually, I'm going to give it to Ramona because I enjoyed Ramona in this episode.

I think she was, for the most part, thinking clearly she had that nice little apology to Bethany. This is, this is the Ramona I like to see. Okay. I also want to point out that this season in particular had seven housewives, which to me I think is like a lot. I think seven's more on the more side of the housewives.

Yeah. Sometimes there's a fact. Anyway, mine is going to go to Bethany because I just love that she made the gift bags. I loved that she chefed for the girls and I just I just loved that she like shut down the argument. I love to see that.

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