Mention It All - What Base Is Toe Sucking? Ft. West Wilson & Jesse Solomon (Summer House)

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Hot on the heels of this week’s Summer House, Dylan is in the studio with West and Jesse to break down an episode that they’d rather not get into. The guys talk about what they’ve learned since last season, and getting used to navigating life on such a public platform. From there, they get into some specifics of the season, including West’s complicated dynamic with Ciara. Turning the focus to Jesse and Lexi, they debate the seriousness of toe-sucking, and why Craig’s advice about not cheating was maybe not the best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am excited to be joined today by two of our summer house guys.

West and Jesse, welcome to the studio. How's it going? What's so? Thanks for having us. Thanks for being here, bright and early. Well, yeah. Someone got extra sleep today, it sounds like. No, I was in the car at 835.

It was just a lot of traffic. And that's why I'm moving to the city. Nice. Yeah. It's fresh out. It'll never happen again. It's unpredictable. Yeah.

How are we feeling about this season so far? Wait, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm happy to be here with you guys. Talk about the season. You can talk about you. Do you always film episodes this early?

No. Oh, this is new. We're here for you. Oh, fuck, yeah. Thanks. No, we're flexible. You know, we film when when people are out and about. Is this podcast your baby?

What'd you say? I don't know. I mean, I don't have like a human child. I don't have a pet. Yeah. I don't know. Is that bleak? No.

But like I don't feel like this, I don't feel like it's like, I don't, like I wouldn't say that. Okay. But maybe. Hmm. Yeah, but like did you, you're the voice and face? I suppose. I'd say it's your baby. So what, what is your baby?

My original baby, I did, I produced a food show when I first moved to New York called napkins. And we, like, did food events. And, like, interview. That was before man on the street became the worst thing ever. Before you would walk through, like, Madison Square Park and just have people approaching you. Yeah. What's not going to you listening to? I can't wait to YouTube napkins.

I think you like what you see, actually. It was just us. If you have time, do you have time? We, it was myself and my good friend, Dave, who Jesse knows. And we were like, let's do, like, a food show in New York. And, like, do we film it ourselves? Like, how do we do this? And then we were like, let's find a camera guy on Craigslist.

Who's hopefully not that expensive. So we meet up with this one dude who, like, we liked his real. And we were like, what do you do for living? He was like, I'm a trans pornographer, pornographic film director and cinematographer. So he, like, made his money just shooting all types of porn around New York. Yeah, and we locked that guy in for, like, we did like nine episodes. Was napkins like an only fan show?

No, like our content wasn't. Okay But our camera guy Like knew what he was doing And so we just did food And interviewed chefs And people eating So it was cool

Pretty exciting So I mean That was my baby You've been on camera for For ages A little Not like this though Yeah, it's a lot

It's different Times of change It's a little different And I don't have a say Any more Like I used to But it's fun How has it been

Like last year versus this year. Do we feel like we've learned to be lessons, West? Yeah, you're like, you have to learn lessons or this, I would imagine this stuff like, we'll chew you up and spit you out,

kind of, but I think in a weird way, it's like, I'm not comparing this to therapy, but you do like live your life and then, uh, like watch it back and see how other people

perceive you or like what things you did, um, land well. Don't lean well. Just like, I don't know. It's kind of interesting in a way. Like it's not something that any other person would get to like experience. So it's obviously it's horrible in some facets.

But it's also like I think you have to learn a lot or your brain's turned off, you know. Yeah. No, I'm definitely learning lessons about myself. Like words just carry a lot of weight that I'm just like such a jokey guy. Yeah. And I didn't realize that like people take what I say seriously sometimes when I'm just kidding. that's a big one I'm learning right now I'm learning about the way I date

because yeah I learned I mean Carl always says like the show is like a version of you just on steroids so it kind of like boils down your personality and it shows who you really are but it just kind of magnifies it and so yeah you just kind of have to deal with who you are

well I feel like you guys have had sort of like opposite first couple seasons where like last year We watched you and your kind of like relationship journey, whatever. And then this year, you know. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That one moves a little faster.

What has it been like for you watching these episodes? Obviously, like, you know, you're at these parties. People are drinking, whatever. No, but like seeing your, this most recent one is the drunkest I've seen myself and him on camera. tuned up. Watching this episode, I was like, dude, we're both like,

I was kind of slurring my words and Jesse, or Craig was like, Jesse can barely walk. And then we went out. I was like, how did we pull that off? And we did, because we were,

like, determined to have a night with Craig. Craig was like, I'll go out with you guys. That's right. We were like, oh, Craig will come out with us.

I will say, watching this episode, I was like, I feel like this day has lasted three days. Yeah. Well, they're, It's like three or four episodes.

Yeah, I agree. I was like, wait, it's, everybody's still awake. Because that was the thing that was like 2 a.m. and you came on and everybody was just hanging out in the kitchen. Emeralds upstairs. Yeah, like, we had McDonald's twice. Yeah, that was a, that was a marathon of a day. And you kind of like see it happening.

I think when you and I wanted to get like pee in the bushes, we reference it. We were like, is this our third bottle? Yeah, you're like, two Hampton water bottle? I was just drinking it out of the bottle. Yeah, great day. What is, I wanted, I think people, I've seen people kind of talk about, like, the, the schedule. When you're having a party like that, like that shipwrecked party, like, what time are people arriving at the house?

Depends. So there's, like, night parties and there's day parties. Right. I would prefer a night party. I just feel like people, like, lock into rage if it's nighttime. Okay. Yeah, I agree. And things just look cooler, like when you decorate and stuff.

I think, like, yeah, I got to say. Some of that pirate makeup in the bright sunlight. It's like, uh, discopian in the, it's like weird. Kyle, Kyle Cook's looking a little ride right now. Yeah, and the sun looks bad. No, that's a good call out. Yeah, so makeup probably looks better than the night. Yeah.

It's like a three o'clock day party. And then we rarely have a night party, but it's like six. Well, because the night party is when the neighbors are like, what the fuck is happening? I'm sure. But at this point, they've got to know, right? That house has been cooking out parties for four years. Do you, would you guys want to go to a different house next summer? Or do you feel like that house is like your safe space?

I'm open to a new house. I heard rumblings, but. Are you allowed to say? I know, because I haven't heard anything legitimate. I would guess that you're not allowed to say. But also, like, that house still has an owner. Like, they could just, the owner, I feel like, could be like, I'm tired for this

Well the best was like the owner rented it out and then people were taking TikToks like I'm staying at the summer house Right yeah it's like on Airbnb or something I think Yeah Like during the spring and fall Right But a new house would be interesting just because I feel like that's

It would shake up like everyone's vibes kind of It's like a fresh start But the house is like there's things wrong with it It's a great house But like it could use a little touch up The front door is a little... Yeah, the front door. Like, when will they quit showing the front door scenes?

Beautiful backyard, though. Like, I don't think they show... Well, you can kind of see it on, like, the drone shots, but the backyard is, like, engulfed in, like, these huge, huge trees, and it's, like, walled off. Yeah. And I think of the... At least before I really knew what the Hamptons were, I pictured, like, beach houses and shit

like that. Yeah. But it's, like, very in the woods and, like, green. It's, like, really pretty... I think it's a really pretty backyard and I appreciate the Shrewberry yeah yeah if we switch houses well I'm sure we'll complain we'll always find the way Well it's nice that you can like go to the beach but like the beach you're not at the beach all the time It's kind of far yeah the Hamptons is spread out like I yeah again you think of like these beach neighborhoods that you see in like TV shows and like or like the Jersey Shore or whatever

The Hamptons is very like wooded and houses and neighborhoods all like you're in the woods and we're in Sag Harbor too It's like a boat town What was your body of water When you were a child? My body of water Where you know is art guy No

We didn't do like Actually my parents are from Michigan So I we went to like a lake in Michigan What was it called? It's Blue Lake It's not like a big Blue Lake Shout out to the guy

Who came up with that You know what's crazy It's like I have no idea The naming origin of Blue Lake But they probably were like Yeah I don't know Fucking Blue Lake whatever.

Damn. Are you an Ozarks guy? Yeah. What would you think about like a summer house? I would. I would love that. Just like Midwest to you. I feel like we could.

Yeah, I've never been to the Ozarks though. What do you think about the show? The redneck depiction of Ozark I think is like pretty accurate. But that's like what they lean into. There's also like every lake has like the flip side where there's just. just random, the most wealthy people ever. And then there's also, like, there are real rednecks in Ozarks.

They filmed it in George. All the dron, all the B-roll is the Ozarks, but I don't think they. I feel like, like, if they were going to do Summerhouse Ozarks, would it be like... That's so fun. Would it need to be, like, Missouri people or would they, like, fly in... Imagine Paige. Amanda and Paige in the Ozarks would be very funny. Yeah, and, like, going to shitty gators and, like, go into shitty gators and, like,

having to deal with a bunch of bald dudes with the tattoos. That's a good show idea. I think it sounds awesome. Let's pitch it to the network. This is the summer house trip that everyone's been chosen for for years. It's just going to Southern Missouri. I dream of that. And like the food would be different.

The outfits would be different. Maybe like one day would be good. Probably not a whole summer. Just is like, let's not get carried away. The Hamptons is nice. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Prime. obsession is in session. And this summer, Prime Originals have everything you want.

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You know. So last week we saw, you know, you guys are kind of talking through, trying to figure out where you really are standing with Sierra in an ongoing basis. And you kind of volunteer to see what's up to test the waters. Just felt like I was the guy for the job. How do you feel like that went? at the shipwrecked party? I mean, it wasn't the outcome I was hoping for, but the conversations went fine.

I think I was upset to hear that Sierra just thought, like, we could never all be friends again, which is fair. And then I was surprised at West's reaction. Like when I told him, he was immediately just, like, upset. Sad puppy? Yeah. Yeah.

I thought he was going to be like, Classic West, but like that hit him. Yeah, I probably would handle that a little cleaner if I didn't drink for nine hours prior. But yeah, that, that, I was sad. Yeah. I was just, I thought there was a little progress and it kind of like that moment felt sad. But actually watching it back, it was chiller than I think I interpreted it when we talked on the boat. Yeah.

Because you were like hard, like whatever. And then watching the convo, it was pretty like not. that heavy. Yeah, you were like, Jesse probably came in super aggressive, which is like a fair assumption. But I don't think I did. I was pretty.

Well, I think that was, I kind of, I thought that was like a, the energy throughout, it was like there wasn't any big blowup. I mean, like you and,

like, it's not like Sierra was yelling at you. It's not like there was this big, like, knock down, like it, not yet. We're only halfway through the season.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think it was clear coming into the season watching that there was a little bit of a disconnect between where everyone's feelings were and how much time had elapsed.

After the reunion last year, did you feel like you were more in the clear than maybe you actually were, do you think? No, for sure. I just thought, yeah, enough time passed it was going to be chill. But it was all that, fucking article that again I thought was like pretty gentle

um reading it back but um actually watching after the second episode I kind of like it makes more sense why that upset her because I think she came into the house like or I guess not into the house but after the reunion had like a different POV than yeah I did so well it's hard I mean like you're talking about like just being on the show like doing this stuff and having to watch it back is like weird and and hard.

And yeah, it's like when you have a situation like that, it makes sense that then it's going to be like, everybody has their own version of it, but then you have to go like watch, watching each person talk about it. Which can a lot of the time be like not fun and really tough. But then there are also other times where like you find like a lot of grace

and like where people are coming from. And I think that's definitely happened to me where you, you think everything is so dark and like... Yeah. Heavy and then you watch it and it's like kind of... You're like... It feels lighter after you get through an episode, which I think I would have probably never thought, like, a few months ago.

Well, it's hard also because you film it and then it's like seven months later or whatever. And so you have all this time to think about, like, did that go exactly how I thought it went? And is that bad or was it better or was it worse? Or are we even going to see the thing that I'm thinking about? Or is it going to get edited out and nobody's ever going to think about it again? You never know what people are going to react to. Like the things you don't even think about are the things people get upset with you for

and the thing that you were worried about, nobody cares. Yeah. Well, and also it's like when you guys, because you guys, when you're there for the weekend, like everything's being filmed and then it has to be a 43 minute episode. So it's like. Those editors, dude fucking shit. You might be like spiraling about something. But if the episode is mostly going to be about page,

And Kyle, you know, having their rage text off, like, maybe you're kind of off the hook that week. Like, it is kind of like a guessing game a little bit. 100%. Yeah, you don't even know if they're going to show it. Yeah. Or just if, yeah, it's hard to know. I mean, it's hard too, but like try to keep a little distance between yourself and like the actual show. Not even like just haters, but like you got to stay equilibrium or you'll just be tossed.

around. Yeah. I won't be looking at social media this week. Yeah, it's been interesting watching how Lindsay and Carl have handled this season. Because, like, stellar? Honestly. And we've had, I think it's worked out nicely that in the first few weekends, it's like, Carl wasn't there the first night.

Lindsay's not there this weekend of Carl's shipwrecked party. Like, there is a little bit of that balance where they can kind of have their own moments without that like dynamic together, but then also when they're in the house together, it's like, okay, like you're both, you're using your therapy tools and you're focusing on, on yourselves. And it's, it's like kind of working. I, yeah, I was blown away, actually, but how, like, not how mature they both were, but it just, they did a good job. They're like vets, though. Yeah. They can just. Yeah, Lindsay's, Lindsay's a pro. But they get in a fight. So, that'll be fun.

Would it be Summer House if they did it? Yeah. But I also think, I think Lindsay, like, just this summer was so, I don't know if it was being pregnant, but just, like, so, like, content and, like, easy to talk to. Like, she cleaned the house every morning. She got us iced coffees. She would make us food.

It was awesome. Lindsay was here a few weeks ago. That is a dumb. I don't even know she's going to ask me. The dumbest shit ever. If anyone listens to that clip, I was like. like I went out of my way to be like I loved pregnant Lindsay and then I just fucking whatever I could tell I could tell that that you guys have you're you're okay yeah we're fine Lindsay's kind of like back to Jesse being like she's a pro I called her two days later and I was like if you like listen that clip I was not trying to cook you up like I just just talking and we talked for like 30 minutes and we're good did you okay but you posted this picture of Carl from the from the gender reveal?

It seemed like you got in trouble for that. I did. I thought that was funny. Everybody thought it was funny. Well, everybody, but. Also, because I'm just like the, I don't know. I'm like, she's the one who is pregnant as her gender reveal. I don't want to step on toes, but.

Wes was so excited to post that. I was like, I'm glad to my camera roll for eight months. That picture is so good, too. I was so good. I was so stoked to post it. But, whoops. I mean, I just think that's the kind of thing where it's like, we can all take a step back and say that this situation is crazy. Like, yeah.

But again, and if it's not like, I don't know, when the woman whose gender reveal for her child it was is like, why did you post that? And I'm not going to like push back. But objectively, I think that picture might be the funniest picture in my phone. So. Yeah. No. It was such a good sport, too. It's not even weird.

It's like him like being cute. Yeah. No, I think they've both been pretty good sports for the most part. Yeah, no, I totally agree. This summer. I did really have to laugh when Carl walked in the house for the first time and is kind of like spiraling about just like entering the arena. And the first person he sees is you and Lexi in the kitchen.

And you're like, meet the love of my life, Lexi. Yeah, that was a lot. You know, I'm just being silly. Yeah. So how... Once in my sleep, apparently. What is it like to watch back? Because, like, obviously, you're not keeping, like, a notebook of every single thing you said all summer.

So have there been moments where you're like, wait, I said that? Like, I did that? Nothing surprises me about myself anymore. I will say that, like, people like, oh, Jesse love bombed her. and I think people are conflating, like, me telling the guys about it versus, like, what I actually said to Lexi. Like, we were very attracted to each other from the jump, and we were both super into it.

And so I was just being silly a lot, too, and, like, she's silly also. So it was just, like, it was a good vibe. It feels pretty mutual watching the show, to me, at least. I mean, like, in this episode, you are calling her, and she's like, he calls me all the time, and I like it. because I also tell him everything that I'm doing. Yeah, like, when you just start seeing someone, you call them and talk to them.

It was not 50 times a day. That was, she said, I think it's like literally 50 times a day. I'm like, I don't think it's literally 50 times a day. Definitely not. But yeah, we talked. We were hooking up. So what is it? You talking this week's episode, because she's not there,

about the difference, the line, whatever it is, between, like, talking to people, being friendly. what is flirting? I think it's hard also when you're on a TV show and people are coming to these parties. It's like anyone can say, oh, Jesse was flirting with me. And it's like that could mean anything.

Yeah. What was that like for you starting to navigate in these first few weekends? Yeah, I think I was just trying to like take a step back and be a good boy. She had told me she's like a jealous person. So I was like, I don't want to do anything to jeopardize the relationship.

But yeah, we had moved very quickly and I was just like trying to make sure that I was like doing the right thing. But I was in so deep. Yeah, we see toward the end of the episode you do, you step in on Emerald's night and get your toes sucked. Yeah. Where do we feel like toe sucking falls on like the intimacy? Second base. I think we talk about it because we play kickball in a few weeks on the show. And there were like so many easy baseball references to make.

Yeah. Could be wrong. But I think we were all like toes. Like what base is it? Yeah. To me it was just like first base. Drunken shenanigans. I didn't think of it as like a sexual thing.

Right. It was like, oh, that's a funny story. Like some girl sucked my toe. Yeah. Looking back afterwards, I was like, probably shouldn't have been in there, shouldn't have done that. And,

you know, I do apologize, but Togate definitely does not go away. It was so funny because earlier in the episode, when you guys are just like chilling on the couch, I think Paige is like, oh, like,

Jesse should, like, put Sierra's toes in her mouth. And I'm like, wait, that actually happens later. Yeah. Sort of,

different, but. Yeah. Well, because, like, some things you just forget because it was so long ago.

Like, I didn't remember Paige saying that. And I was like, am I about to, eat Sierra's toe. I was like, no, no, I said no. You're like, that's not what Togate was. Yeah.

Yeah, it is, I mean, it's, it is like, everybody has their own kind of boundaries and things that are. I thought Craig said something really, he was giving some advice on this week's episode, and he said, you date the girl that you would want to cheat on your girlfriend with, and until you meet that girl, you don't date anyone. And I'm like, is that, like, really good advice, or is that the bleakest thing I've ever heard? I mean, yeah, I guess I just haven't found the girl I want to cheat on my girl with. You got in trouble for asking that?

I didn't, watching that bag, I didn't think that combo was that bad. I get in trouble for so many things that get twisted through games of telephone. I didn't think that you brought the crazy energy. I just feel like maybe, maybe as a gay person, this makes more sense to me. But I'm like, if you have to do a math equation about whether you're going to cheat on your girlfriend, just like, be in an open relationship. Just like don't... It's not as easy. Don't do monogamy.

Yeah. So many... Summerhouse might not even have made it to nine seasons if everybody was just in an open relationship. Yeah. Well, Lexi was very clear that, you know, she was pursuing me and she wanted me to be pursuing her. I think it was just like I'd known the girl for two and a half weeks.

And I was like, Craig, when do you start like really honing in on the one girl? But yeah. Listen, I'm just the open book. I'm honest. There was a question. Came to mind. Ask Craig. That's a good question.

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It's been interesting as a viewer. We see so much on Southern Charm and Summerhouse of them talking through this kind of phase of their relationship. I'm wondering for you guys just like being there in real time and just like knowing them as people, what was your kind of read going into this summer

on like the energy that Paige was bringing? She didn't really bring any of her qualms with Craig to at least me. I don't know that you. We were not involved. Yeah. Believe it or not, the guy who hit on your girlfriend last summer does not get brought into those

conversations. That's the one thing you didn't get in trouble for, I feel like, this season. Floating the page. Well, like, you're, it, I don't think anybody's like, oh, like, Jesse's the reason that they had issues. Oh, yeah, thank God. Yeah, that's nice. But I, yeah, I don't

watch Southern Charm either, so I, I don't know if there's stuff on there that, like, they discuss that people like care about. It's a lot of the same. I got to be honest. It's been, like, a lot of parallel conversations of, like, yeah, like, page is busy. Yeah. She's doing well. Yeah, and it feels like, yeah.

It's pretty normal. I don't know. But we, yeah, we were like, weren't really involved. Like, when they broke up, I was like, what? Yeah. I was, like, surprised. And then I was like, uh, kind of makes sense. Yeah.

Well, I think it's, yeah, it's been, it's been interesting to watch. I think on, on Summerhouse, we get obviously more of pages perspective. And it, it does seem like, yeah, she's, she's like kind of, I don't know, ready to just, like, do her own thing, probably. I don't know. She's doing it. Yeah. The girls are very. very convincing. Like, when you listen to Sierra Page talk about, like, the way a boy is behaving,

you're like, oh, like, I didn't realize that what Craig was, like, making everything about him or, like, those conversations were kind of, I was like, you got to really be careful. As a listener? Just like when you're in a relationship, the things that you say, like, they were like Craig was making the whole relationship about him. And I don't want to sympathize Craig, because Page is the last person that you want angry at you. He was just like, I just want to make sure our relationship's good. And she's like, what a selfish prick. Yeah.

I mean, it's hard. And that's the thing that people who aren't on a TV show don't ever have this like third party view of that conversation. Right. And they don't have people like weighing in on their relationship. It was clearly two people that were just like not aligned. and happy for them that they're. Does seeing that though and like knowing that people have all those opinions does it make you more hesitant to want to be in a relationship that you would have on that platform?

Yes. It's scary. Yeah. I mean, not that what I tried last summer is anything close to that. But like I'm still fucking talking about it. And it's a year and a half later, you know. Yeah. But I like, yeah.

I just, I try not to do anything on the show that I wouldn't do. in real life, and I try not to let the show change who I am. So, like, if I'm attracted to a girl in the show, I'm going to go for it. But, like, Sierra being, like, I don't date Bravo men. Like, that'll never be me. Oh, yeah. I'll never say that. Like, I'm not going to date anybody on Bravo.

Boring. Well, because, like, life is long. Life is unexpected. You never know. What are we here for? It's true. I think, yeah, it's interesting having Kyle and Amanda as, like, this couple that's been on the show forever and they

but it's like they literally the same questions they have to answer 5,000 times in a row like from peers or like media? Like from people on social media like you know the amount of times when it's like

how many minutes until they're getting divorced and it's like it hasn't happened it's been however long I like everything you're saying right now to be true. It's like I don't think it looks fun it doesn't look fun No, Lindsay, the professional that we referenced earlier, told me if you're talking to someone, it's going to be about when it's going to be your girlfriend.

If she's a girlfriend, when are you getting engaged? Yeah, whatever's the next step. When are you going to have a baby? Like, that's what the conversation is going to be about and you just have to be ready for it. Yeah. I actually think it's really, Lindsay's like relationship situation on this season, I think the way that she's talked about, like, not moving in with him just because she's, pregnant. Like I, that like landed so much with me because I'm like, yeah, like that makes

sense. She's like, she's like, congratulations. She's like, she's like independent. She doesn't need like she's on her own timeline, whatever that is. And yeah, people, people do have a lot of opinions and judgments and questions. It is weird how like it's like at least this show, like, I, like, maybe with like housewives and stuff, it's like a little more niche and complex, but like ours is just like the baseline of human kind of society and interaction or whatever where it's like pregnant moving in dating talking

toesuck like roommates like it just and every person ever will have an opinion because it's just like the most normal stuff ever yeah and it's it makes sense that everyone has an opinion but it's also so fascinating

how like these little things like land or don't land with people. Well, and like, everybody is bringing their own whatever baggage or opinions or life, whatever that they have because there are people who would see like, oh, it's been six months and they're not talking about getting engaged. Something's wrong there. But then there's other people who would watch the same thing and be like, they're just getting

to know each other. I think it's also interesting. Like, we all live in New York City. And I feel like at least, like, a few of the commonalities that we all have is like a house. is that we all live in New York and kind of life is pretty fast-paced. I feel like our age brackets kind of do the same thing. Like, I don't know if I'll be drinking till 4 a. I'm like Kyle when I'm 43, but I still think like we all kind of do the same stuff.

Like there are people who probably watched this who grew up in like, you know, Western Nebraska. Yeah. And like got married and, you know, and like it's just not like they, this just doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah. Also, I mean, obviously there's all the like grow up comments, but I'm like

Yeah No, we're on a show just so people can comment like how they feel about it. Like people think we're literally in the Hamptons right now. Like that's what they see. That's what they think is happening.

Like they don't understand us as people, you know? Yeah, I do feel like compared to some of the other shows like Summerhouse has stayed mostly pretty buttoned up in terms of like you guys aren't breaking the fourth wall left and right, you know, like, Do other shows do that a lot?

It's happened more. It's become a little bit looser, I would say. But I feel like because most of the shows on Bravo, at least, don't have a format like yours where it's like, we go to the house for the weekend in the summer. People know that that's like the show and that you guys are like going there to film for the weekend. But it also is like a real thing that people do not on TV. So it works kind of in its own little structure. The other thing I say too That like I feel like benefits us or at least

Like because we're being filmed We don't have like scenes like we don't like Yeah We're not told like show up and then go home Right It's 48 hours and then some of like The whole The whole time we're there is like being filmed

You let your guard down And so well yeah One you let you let your guard down Because otherwise you'd be exhausted If you were like acting the whole time But two Like shit's gonna like catch on You know when you have

like three days with people under one roof you know and I do watch some of the other shows and I think why people like our show is because we are actually friends and that like comes through like some of these other shows the

you're on the show for so long like you end up hating the people and it feels like a forced thing where ours is like good vibes because we actually get along yeah and I think the the seasons and the episode and whatever of Summer House that people connect with the most

tend to be the ones where the house is generally having a good time and getting along. And yeah, there's going to be one-off kind of drama. Yeah, people liked last year a lot. And obviously, like, Lindsay and Carl had a challenged dynamic at times. But, like, it was a fun season. And it didn't feel like... And I think this season has a lot of that.

I mean, the shipwrecked party looked like fun. There was, like, a lot going on. you take the magnifying glass to it, but... I think the next two are even more fun. Oh, yeah? If I mean, totally honest. Yeah. No?

I don't even remember. You're like, I don't know. Oh, the next party is so not fun. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. That's fine. Speak for yourself.

That's fair. With that party. Going on a different journey. Okay. Well, that's why I guess that's why... That's interesting. It's interesting. But yeah.

last summer was pretty Yeah like if West and I are in a house in the hampsons like we're gonna have fun Yeah, that's the other thing too is like even if things are little like I My biggest problem I feel like this season is because like there's I have a little bit of tension with one person and it like shud it like freaks me out because I love when everyone is like Having fun together So I'm working to like overcome that clearly and at a certain point you kind of gotta like say fuck it but I think no matter what's going on in the house. Like Jesse and I are going to like party.

So hopefully people can appreciate that a little. There's like there's like a baseline of of having a good time, even if you're not always having a great time every minute. I like I'm still blown away that we went out in this last episode. Because we were like just so not in good shape the whole episode. And then we like go out the front door and street close. But shout out. I mean shout out. I thought it was interesting in the the like midseason.

trailer is at the end of this episode. And something that I'm interested to see is Sierra kind of picking an emerald for how many girls he's brought back to the house. It is a it does seem like a lot. Yeah, it was shocking to be there.

Yeah, I didn't really have any interaction with it, so I didn't really get to like be a part of it. I don't, I didn't see one of the women. Yeah, that was the thing. Like face to face. That's why I went in there, I feel like. Because he would bring girls back and we would never see them.

And we're like, is this guy really even bringing them back? He talks a big game. Yeah. It does feel like, though, you know, you're talking about kind of like having a good time, like you two are going to party, whatever. But like, if you're if you're so focused or bringing back that many girls, it's like, are you really like getting to know the house? I think that's what Sierra basically like called him out for.

Right. Because like, I don't know if it was performative or not, but like, yeah, At that point in time, your objectives are like elsewhere. We're like, the girls are like, you're making us look gross. Like, you're bringing random girls back to like our house. We don't, we just met you. Yeah. I mean, it's like, I think the, like, that is part of the summer house DNA.

The like going out, hooking up whatever. That's what else. But it tells me that earlier they were freaks. But then it's like, but I think that it's like, that's not, that's not all it is. and it's, you know, involved in that, like, like I said, it's like people like watching,

like the house have fun together. And that it's like, I don't know, but it's, it's an interesting point because I don't think we've really had somebody who's like getting after it like that in a while maybe.

He's getting after it. Respect the hustle, yeah. Yeah. He wears it, though. Yes. Like he, yeah. He says,

says it how it is. Yeah, I feel like he's not getting like a lot of heat for what he's doing. Like, he's open about it. he's having fun. Yeah.

Like everybody last summer, two summers ago, was coming at me for like dating girls in the city, like a normal guy. Well, I was like bringing home like tons of girls. It was funny to me because I feel like that was treated like it was like you were trying to keep some dark secret or whatever that it's like, oh,

he's like supposedly talking to these girls. And it's like, okay. Yeah, it was like I'm single and dating. I was just like a busy week, one week. And I was like, yeah, we're on three dates. But like, respect the hustle.

Yeah. I'm definitely not doing that anymore. Yeah. That was a crazy time. That's a lot. It's a lot to keep up with. Yeah. For the rest of the season, you said the next couple maybe not so fun for you.

How are we feeling West about watching it back? Yeah. After my drunk little whiny talk with Amanda, I think I'm, I think, I think it'll get, it could not get good, but like, it's all downhill from. I'm kind of chilling for the most part. I, this guy, I'm excited to see what happened. I think it'll be fun.

The trailer looks wild. Yeah. There's a lot that happens still. You know, we're like seven episodes in. Yeah. Yeah. We're like less than halfway. I've said this a few times and you can handle this,

but like I'm excited to sit back a little bit and watch. Jesse have some fun. And you're so excited to be the one in the hot seat. Listen. Everything I've done in this life comes down to this, I suppose. Yeah, listen, it's like, it's not that

serious. Yeah. We had some fun. Nothing is that, like, it's, it's, it's so, juvenile. Yeah. And just, like, when you put a, when you put, like, a, like, an ominous score behind anything,

it, like, seems, like, people are like murdering each other in our house. Yeah. But it actually no one's been murdered. No one's been murdered. Wow. But it feels like it though. There's a trailer and like the music and the pop-p-p-p-we.

We talk about a few people that like as if they're no longer alive. Yeah. Yeah. No, but there are some nice moments throughout the season. It's not like I'm not like acting like Rob Grancowski the whole time just being like a big, goofy idiot. Yeah. A little gronkettage is okay. Yeah.

Yeah. the parties are fun. We played a kickball game. Was it like house, like boys or girls? Yeah, because we had a kickball team last year. This is like coming up.

We had a kickball team last year after the house was over. And we kind of ran it back. Love that. Love an activity. Love a sport. Love. Good time.

Well, thanks, guys. This has been a pleasure. Kind of sad. Yes, those are good questions. Yeah, thanks for having us.

Thank you. Do my best. No, no. Yeah. Everybody watch Summerhouse. Everybody rate. Skip tonight.

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