Mention It All - What Do We Do About Sutton? Ft. @morganptalks

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

On today’s episode, Dylan is joined by Morgan, host of Morgan’s Pop Talks, to unpack a wild week in Bravo news. They react to the viral video of Joe Gorga screaming at his tenant, share how they��re feeling about Southern Charm coming back, and why Denise Richards and Charlie Sheen are bickering in the tabloids once again. Then, they discuss the latest accusation against Sutton, and how RHOBH could get even more messy as the season progresses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and today I am excited to be joined by one of my favorite pop culture, internet personalities. You've probably seen her on TikTok. You might have heard her podcast, Morgan's Pop Talks. Please welcome Morgan. Hey, Morgan.

Hi, Morgan. Dylan. Well, thank you because you are one of my favorite internet pop culture personalities. So I think we're going to get along just great on this episode. Perfect. Well, that's a good way to set the scene. I feel like we have a lot of random stuff to talk about. And you do such a good job in your videos and your podcast, everything, breaking down whatever is happening. The whole TikTok like pop culture scene is so stressful to me. But I feel like you really nail it all the time. It's very stressful to me. me as well. So I definitely fake it till I make it. So thank you. I appreciate the compliment. What is your, I'm curious, in terms of your content when you're doing it, like, is there a topic

that you always love talking about the most? Or is there something where it's like, when you see that it's trending, you're like, oh God, I have to make a video about this, don't I? You know what? It's funny because it changes a lot. I mean, I first got onto the TikTok scene because of housewives. So that's really where like my my core people are, our housewives fans. I will say I do love talking about the Kardashians. I will say that I'm not one of those people that will always, I mean, of course I view them in a positive light. I think they are phenomenal. But also like, if I need to be a little bit shady towards the Kardashians in a moment, I will do so. And they have such a strong fan base that sometimes I get afraid to do that because they will cut you.

But I think it's just all fun and I'm never malicious when I mean anything. But sometimes you've got to be shady. I learn that from housewives. I think that is such a good point. And sometimes I feel like I'll get like a comment or something that it's like, oh, like you're too nice to this person or you're too mean to this person. And it's like, it's hard. It is hard.

Especially when these people are on these TV shows where we're seeing so much. of their lives and so much they're involved in conflict and everything. It's like, I don't agree with almost anyone 100% at the time. Like, I'm not going to love anyone no matter what. I feel that so strongly too. And at the end of the day, I love reality TV. So I love these people that I'm watching on TV. Like, everyone's going to have a bad moment here and there. Like, even though Craig Conover sometimes has really bad moments, I still like Craig Conover, because because I like reality TV. So it's just, it's ebbs and flows.

I will never be the type of person that, like, very, very strictly hates somebody till the end of time. If I had to pick somebody that would come close to it, it would be Lisa Renna. But I still respect Lisa Renna's hustle. I'll put it that way. I feel that. Yeah. I mean, like, she does what she needs to do sometimes.

I feel like there's so much. going on and keep forgetting that Southern Charm comes back next week already. I know. Can you believe it? And I, it's so funny too because, you know, whenever you're watching past seasons in the moment, I hated Madison. We all were like, oh, Madison, what are you doing? But I recently watched, they had that special on Bravo where Craig and Madison sat down

and watched that reunion together. And I thought it was so funny. And I was like, I can't wait to see Madison. I am so excited to see Madison LaCroix back on my TV. So I think it's just funny how things can change even the second time you watch an episode. I am really interested to see how Madison comes off this season now that she's seemingly fully done with Austin once and for all. And she has a new man.

And, you know, I think it'll be kind of refreshing to see her like not toying with Austin the way that she was last season. It's just so funny too, because when you compare, you know, Madison and Austin's dynamic to Sierra in Austin's. It's so totally different and I feel like if Sierra Sierra does have Madison

energy sometimes where I feel like if she really wanted to she could just like whip Austin into place but she is too kind-hearted where Madison just says whatever she feels and I love that about her. So yeah, it's just interesting to see all the different dynamics and of course we know that

Austin is actually with neither of them right now and I'm kind of disappointed that I think Madison is just a friend of role, but I think it's because obviously, you know, she's moving on from Austin. But I'm still so excited for Southern Charm. It's always been one of my favorites. Yeah, it's one of those shows where I feel like even when I hate it or have trouble with a lot of the people, I'm like, I can't quit this. It's like a toxic. It's a toxic habit. I'm not just going to stop watching. It definitely is. Speaking of shows that have had a lot of, I don't know, a lot of black and white response from fans. Real Housewives of New Jersey

was, I think, tough this season to watch with all of the, like, Teresa and Melissa, and, you know, it just gets so toxic online. But this video that came out this week of Joe Gorga, screaming at a man in a parking lot for allegedly not paying rent to him in four years, that is the kind of Jersey mess that I want. Thank God for Joe Gorga. Without Joe Gorga, there would be no real housewives of New Jersey and he's not even technically a housewife. I feel like the real housewives of New Jersey has turned into the Gorgas and everybody

else is just kind of like background noise and not necessarily Melissa because she needs to step it up a little bit, but between Teresa and Joe and everybody else is just bystanders in the circuit. Yes. It's funny to get a glimpse of this side of Joe Gorga, because I feel like we used to see it. We've seen it on the show before, but in the last couple years, I feel like almost Melissa and Joe have positioned themselves as kind of like the more normal ones and like the kind of like, it's like, oh, like this stuff is crazy over there, but we have our perfect

family and like, you know, that we don't want the drama. and then you just see this like two and a half minute video of Joe screaming and like maybe he has a sledgehammer. It's a little unclear. But it's just like, oh yeah, like that, you know, the animal Joe is still under there somewhere. He's back. I know. Everyone was make, I mean, it is a big deal. But I was like, I kind of would expect something like this from from Joe Gorga.

If a tenant didn't pay for four years, which I'm very confused. I'm very, very confused by because everything that I've read said that some of it was COVID-related, but that obviously didn't start four years ago. So like what happened in the two years before he lost his job due to COVID? Yeah. So Joe's lawyer, it sounds like, said that he owes like $50,000 in back back to 2018. And then obviously, you know, there wasn't like a COVID program until 2020. So I don't, I don't know. I'm like, are we going to see this like play out in court on the show? like they have been, the last couple years, they've been keeping Joe's businesses kind of separate from the show, which maybe is, uh, makes them look a little better. But I'm, I do want to know what's

going on here. I mean, I feel like all Housewives franchises are kind of starting to lean into legal drama. So maybe this will be New Jersey's way of leaning into some legal drama. I know. I mean, I, with Joe, it's like there definitely has been stuff. out there in the past and when they brought on what's your name, Michelle, who was like going to be the realtor. There was like a whole thing about Joe not paying. Like it feels like we've danced around this topic a couple of times,

but for whatever reason, it's always kind of like stayed on the sidelines. And, you know, maybe if, maybe if Joey's not nice to Teresa, she'll bring something up on camera. Oh my gosh. I just was not surprised by that video in the slightest. I know a lot of people were,

but I was like, oh, yeah. It's just a Tuesday for Joe Gorga yelling at people about rent. That's like, I feel like I just need to hang out in New Jersey for like a little while and just like wait for something to see something like that go down. It can't, it shouldn't take that long. Oh, trust me. My best friend lives in New Jersey and I went to a Jersey wedding where we were basically, we were essentially like fist pumping the night away.

And it was like midnight by the time something like that happened. So if you're in New Jersey long enough, something like that will definitely happen. But no hate to the New Jerseyans. We have a good time there. Yeah, I don't know if we love it, but it's like I would camp out in the envy parking lot. Yeah, absolutely. So, so good. So good.

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Work your magic. Another thing that's going down on social media is this chaos between Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards, which apparently their tension with each other will just never end. They haven't been married in like 15 years or something. But long story short, their daughter Sammy recently turned 18. and she announced yesterday, or on whatever day it was, that she has joined OnlyFans and she posted a swimsuit pick and told people to go follow her and that she would be private messaging people, which, I mean, I don't care who has an OnlyFans. She's an adult. She can do whatever she wants. And, like, you know, Larsa Pippin taught us that sometimes OnlyFans is just like people... Be-X! Sometimes they're paying you $10,000 just like to say, hey. So I don't know what's happening on Sammy's. only fans, but now there's this like tabloid feud of Charlie basically. He said, uh, this did not,

she's living with her mother. This did not occur under my roof. I do not condone this. Um, and then Denise said Sammy's 18. The decision wasn't based on whose house she lives in. It's like, why are we doing this? Truly, why are we doing this? And like, Charlie Sheen of all people is not going to be like the sound judgment that I'm looking for. Like, you know what I mean? Charlie Sheen has made a lifetime of questionable decisions. So for him to be like, not under my roof, like he's on some high horse. I just was like, really? Charlie Sheen, you of all people who we know we're like bringing to hookers to Thanksgiving dinner.

Like you have no right. Obviously, my dad would probably have the same reaction. But I feel like we've seen a little bit in the press like there was already some tension between Sammy and Denise. Didn't something go down on TikTok? Yeah, it was like in the fall, Sammy posted something about how she, like, hated her mom, basically, or she was, like, trapped living with her. Yeah. And then, since then, she's turned 18. It sounds like she's still living with Denise, which, to me, I'm a little bit like, if you're 18 now and you hate it so much, like, I feel like you could find a way to move out.

I don't know. But Denise has given a couple comments in the last few months about how their relationship is, like, tough, but they're working on it, but whatever. And I'm like, I just, I don't know, this, I feel like this family needs to like, just take a breather from each other. Yeah. And it's like, especially if they're still in the phase of working on their relationship, if Sammy, you know, like you said, she is 18, she can make her own decisions.

If Denise is still in mending mode, it's not going to do her any favors to, you know, be like, I do not want you on only fans, especially when you're living in my house. I mean, maybe that's what Charlie would do. But like I said, if they're trying to mend their relationship, if Denise is trying to do that, then that's just not going to help the situation. So I can understand why she's maybe maybe not being as aggressive about it as maybe some other parents would, like Charlie would, for example. Where do you stand on Denise Richards as a real housewife? Like, do you think that was, did you enjoy her on the show? Would you ever want to see her back?

You're not going to believe me when I say my answer. I'm almost embarrassed to say it. I was obsessed. I loved Denise Richards. I was team Denise all day long. And like I rewatched it in quarantine and I found her to be like a little bit more annoying the second time around, which is like funny what I was telling you how the first time I watched something.

I will absolutely love one person. Then I'll have a complete opinion change. But I just like Denise as a person. I think that she is more laid back than the rest of the girls. like, you know, one of my friends, Samantha Bush, who I know you've had on the podcast before, she even tweeted something today like, I'm sick of the glam squads.

I just want girls to go out to lunch together and, you know, talk about mom stuff or whatever the tweet was. I'm paraphrasing. But I feel like Denise, you know, for as much drama besides the brandy stuff, I feel like she was a real one. I agree.

Like she, I don't think she, when she like got the office, offer to do housewives and was like, yeah, sure, I'll do that. It didn't feel to me like she had necessarily done a lot of research. Well, I think maybe that turned out a little rough for her. It was refreshing because Beverly Hills, more than maybe any other franchise, everything feels so performative in a way that it's like the glam is always going to be over the top. They're clearly trying to show off their wealth. Like, you know, I love there's one girl on TikTok. I can't remember her name, but she goes through all the handbags that you see in every

episode. And it just is like ridiculous. The amount of like, I need to find that TikTok. It's so good. But, but it's like Denise really clearly, either she didn't know that that was kind of the expectation or she just didn't care to keep up. And the first, her first season, early in the season, they went on a trip to the Bahamas, I think. And it was like when LVP was still there. and like the first day they come out, everybody's in their like caftans and like designer looks and whatever. And Denise is wearing like jean shorts and a tank top. And it's just like, that is so good. Yes. I agree. She's like, what? We're at the beach. I agree. I would 100% be in favor of her making a return. It reminded me a little bit of Jackie when she had that party for her kids. And,

on Real House Luzon, New Jersey with, like, the pizza and cake and, like, the Amazon box party favors. And she's like, yeah, it's a kid's party. I'm not going to spend, like, $20,000 on, like, gourmet food. Good for her. Good for her. That's exactly what she should do. Right.

And it almost makes the other women, it, like, exposes their ridiculousness a little bit when they're like, how could you feed the kids pizza and cake? And she's like, because they're six-year-olds. Right. I don't know. I think Denise, I don't know if I ever see her like making some big comeback to Real Housewives, but I appreciate the time that she spent with us. I do too. It was, we cherish those moments with Denise Richards. Where, I'm curious, what would you think about Lisa Vanderpup coming back? Like, where are you in, I feel like that is just always a topic of conversation. And I am curious to

know your thoughts. I feel like it's been enough time. where I wouldn't be annoyed with it. You know, like, the first couple of years after the whole thing happened, I was like, okay, this is never going to happen. But then we got all these reports, you know, a couple weeks ago about Lisa and Teddy, like talking it out at the MTV Movie and TV Awards. And I'm like, you know, if the door is still open for Teddy,

of all people to kind of make amends with Lisa, then I feel like the door would still be open with Kyle. I feel like, you know, if Lisa, which she never will. I don't think she will ever return to the franchise. But I feel like it would just be, it would be good for fans to see them reconnect. You know, it would be something different than, you know,

Erica's drama or, you know, Lisa stirring the pot or whatever. You know, we kind of see a repetition of storylines with some of the cast members. But people were so invested in that friendship. I was so invested in that friendship as a viewer that if there, that if there was a way for them to reconcile on camera, I would be totally there for it.

I also just feel like Lisa loves control. I mean, we all know that. I feel like that's kind of been the downfall of Vanderpump rules in the past couple of years that she doesn't want to let her baby go, even though it's kind of progressed past what we actually like to see on Vanderpump rules. Like I say it all the time. I would love a Tom Tom Spinoff where, you know, the two Toms take the role of LVP and then we follow, you know, their restaurant workers and see what they're doing, kind of like a next gen situation. But I feel like Lisa loves control so much that she would never allow that to happen.

You know, she would never let the Tom's kind of take her role on on a show. So so I don't think she would ever come back. But I feel like I would like to see them reconnect. Yeah, I agree. The Teddy thing was interesting because it's like, obviously Teddy's not on the show anymore. And so it's like, there's no kind of like skin in the game with Lisa. Like her making up with Teddy isn't like opening the door for her to be back on the show necessarily. But also I wish we had like audio of their conversation because the article said that they talked for almost 40 minutes. Yeah, 40 minutes. Because when I first heard that, when I first heard that they made up or whatever, I was like, oh, Teddy probably was just like, let's move on. I love you. I'm sorry, Lisa. And she's like, okay. But if they talked for 40 minutes, it's like, it makes it seem like there was some. Yeah. Which good for Lee. I'm surprised Lisa gave a shit enough to do that with Teddy, honestly. I feel like they all were probably just like at the perfect level of drunk to like allow the heart. to heart to happen where us commoners would normally have that conversation like in the bathroom, but they're just going to have it, you know, after the MTV movie and TV awards.

I did love the mess that like Tamara took a selfie of herself where you could see Teddy and Lisa talking in the background. It's like, God, Tamara, something like, Tamara and Teddy are weirdly this kind of dynamic duo that is like strangely. Captivating. Enjoyable. Yeah. You just can't look away. I don't know. I'm very excited to see Tamara back on Ultimate Girls Trip. What are you, what are you feeling going into this season? I'm excited for this season because unlike last season, and I mean, I guess it just depends on what way you look at it, but, you know, it's the ex-wives club. They don't have anything to lose. You know, they're not still on their respective shows. I don't know, maybe some of them would like to be back on TV full-time. I'm, I don't know, maybe somebody like Brandy, but I just feel like it's going to be such a different atmosphere than the first time around because, you know, those are all people that are still on TV.

It's the first season. But this cast, Brandy, Vicky, Durinda, I mean, we're already see it. They are ready to go balls to the wall, guns blazing. And I am so excited for it. Yeah, Vicky and Derinda have really been going back. and forth over the last week or so, apparently all stemming from some comment that Vicky made about Bluestone Manor being old, which I have to say is just like an objective fact. But, you know, Derinda's coming for her dating history, for her love of dancing on tables in Mexico.

Like, it just feels very like, I love when Durinda has that like edge where it's like, oh, she doesn't give one single fuck. She's down to destroy. Vicki. I love it. It's like whenever I first saw this, and I think it's on the godfather, but obviously I know it because Chloe said this season, like, never go against the family. In Dorinda's case, you never go against Blue Stone Manor. You never go against the berserkers or you get the wrath of Dorinda Metley.

So do I feel like she's maybe going a little far? Doesn't Durinda always go a little far? But I like it. So it's fine. I was surprised, though, because apparently Vicky made this comment. It was reported, like, when they were discussing where to stay for this season. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, that was like a discussion. Like, I assumed the producers were just like, okay, you're going to Massachusetts.

Absolutely. If I was Vicky, I might have been like, well, I'd rather go to the beach. Yeah. But I feel like, I mean, I even just said it. Well, maybe I didn't say it, but I did in my head. I love the Berkshire's episode of New York was like something that I actively looked forward to every single season. I feel like lovers of New York really looked forward to that trip. So of course, I'm going to want them to go.

But if I was Vicky, I too would be like, didn't they go to like someplace very tropical the first time around? Not somewhere out in the middle of nowhere. I don't know. Yeah, Maricio had the hook up with that villa in Turkey coast. Like apparently Peacock was like, yeah, if Mauricio's not paying, you're going to Dorinda's house. As long as they never go to La Quinta for a Real Housewives ultimate girls trip, I will be a happy camper. No, we can't have Kyle like hosting. That would just be too stressful.

Yeah, I'm trying to make a lasagna. Well, the dogs are eating the food like straight out of the oven. Oh my God. I, okay. I didn't grow up with dogs. I don't have dogs now. it is like extremely stressful for me to watch Kyle's dogs who are very cute, just be so like all over the place in the house.

I'm like, please sit. Like Bambi is going to eat absolutely anything. Oh my gosh. You love it. But yeah, Brandy commented on Dorinda and Vicki's feud. And she said that she unsurprisingly had drama with both of them while she was in the house. She said, I like Derinda when she's sober, and I have a newfound love for Vicky, so I don't want to pick a side. I'm like, Brandy, the way she has talked about it, I listened to, she had Fadra on her podcast, she had Derinda on her podcast.

And the way they just describe it is like Brandy was basically either blacked out or fighting with someone or both the whole time. And I'm like, that sounds like, par for the course. That sounds like what I would expect. Yeah, exactly. And that's why, like I said earlier, I'm just ready for it to be chaotic. I feel like the first season, it had moments of chaos, but it wasn't, you know, chaos start to finish. A lot of them ended up friends.

I mean, Teresa's got a couple of them, you know, in her wedding party over her sister-in-law. But I feel like these ladies don't care. They understand the assignment. They know we want the drama. I cannot wait, truly. Yeah, no, I mean, I feel like they're like, oh, yeah, it's like fun. I like some of these girls, but like I'm not trying to, it's not a citizen. Mr. Hood. Right. No, not at all.

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And then last week's episode, Sutton was like saying that she had told this story about her daughter's friends in the jacuzzi. and that crystal was like, yeah, that's what I was referring to. And now there is this TikTok that has gone sort of viral in the like Bravo sphere. And it is this girl saying that she is what is the friend that Sutton referred to as like that Chinese girl in the hot tub. And she says it's like a sound, a TikTok sound that's like that's funny, like weird. And she says, me when I caught off my high school BFF of five years because her mom was racist to me. and now she's a real housewife getting called out for being racist.

And her response is my white daughter had a Chinese friend on TV. I have been a Sutton fan since she's been on the show, basically. I've always thought that she was just like delightfully weird and off-putting to watch. But this, it feels like she has painted herself into a really unfortunate corner with this situation. Yeah, I agree. And it's, it's just a snowball effect, you know, like, like, like the conversations that we didn't see between Crystal and Sutton. It's like, okay, well, it could have been left there and we would have never known about it.

But then Crystal brings it up. And now we are assuming the worst, you know, like they said, we fill in the blanks. But Crystal also is being very vague about it. So, you know, the snowball is starting to roll down the hill. And we're like, okay, what's coming next? What's coming next? And then this TikTok is what comes next, which by the way, I have not been able to find. I think she deleted it.

I looked, so the, the girl who posted it originally is private on TikTok. So I've only seen, I've seen screenshots. And then I saw one Twitter account like repost the whole video. But I think on TikTok, you can't really find it because she's private. Yeah. I could not find it. So I was just, I was just very confused. I don't think we ever will know the truth about what was said, which on one hand,

I'm like, I want to know. And then on the other hand, I'm like, I agree with the rest of the cast where I don't feel like Crystal should have brought it up if she's not going to divulge all the information because we are only getting half the story, which is frustrating as a viewer. Right. It's tough because it's like, obviously, I agree that if Sutton is out here saying problematic things, I think she should be held accountable for that. And, you know, Garcel wants to know what she said.

Obviously, it affects her as Sutton's friend and a woman of color. But then it's like it really has created this super awkward dynamic within the whole group. And then us watching it as viewers, not having all the information. It's just like really hard to know how you're supposed to feel about any of it or process it or like. Form an opinion. Right. It's, I don't know. It's strange.

And I feel like Sutton, I felt like with the Erica stuff last year, Sutton, was really like the people's champions sort of. Yeah. Like everybody, she was asking the questions. Yeah, she was asking the questions that everybody wanted her to ask. And like this season,

it's kind of like, oh, like not like that. Like, it's looking a little rough. Well, I remember like before this season even started. I was,

you know, I'm always reading stuff online. I'm sure you are too. But, you know, I forget who the interview was with, but somebody asked like, who has the most drama this season.

And the answer was everyone with Sutton for different reasons. So it's like we are starting to see that, whether it be, you know, the first couple of episodes with Kyle, Sutton with Doreet, now Sutton with Crystal, you know, whether or not Garcel is going to figure out what she said and that's going to cause an issue with Sutton and Garcel. So I think it's just easy. And we know Diana, the new housewife is going to end up having a problem with Sutton. And so a rough one. And I almost feel like I don't know. I also can't form an opinion on Sutton because I can't figure out if she is playing it up. You know, because so many people love the fact that she called Erica out so much last season

that she kind of came into this season thinking, I'm going to do the same thing and I'm going to make a bigger name for myself. Or if she just really is as what did Diana, what did Diana call her? Oh, clumsy. Climsy. Yeah. Yeah. Or if that's just really her, like on a day to day. I know.

And there was a clip from this week's episode that I saw going around where she's like, you know, last week she said that thing where she was like, oh, I love Crystal. As much as I hate her, I still love her. Right. And then at the next dinner, she's like, oh, well, I never said I hated Crystal. And it's like, you got to get your, you know, roll footage. It's not necessarily that what she said was so horrible, but it's like if you're going to, if you're going to speak in such like absolute terms, like you have to actually remember what you said. And that's why I think I would be a bad housewife because I would be like, people would be like, you totally said this.

And I'm like, no, that doesn't sound like something I would say. Yeah. What did, um, didn't Eric, who said fake amnesia? Did somebody say it to Erica or did Erica say to somebody? It was, I think Teddy said that to Erica. pretend amnesia. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Pretend amnesia.

That's what Sutton has, for sure. Yes. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't know. We're still only like five weeks into this season of Beverly Hills. And we still haven't even seen Kathy at all. I'm like nervously awaiting Kathy joining the season. It's, there's a lot.

I'm also wondering, you know, if, because we all know something is going to go down in Aspen. I don't know the specifics of it, but apparently it's pretty bad with Kathy and all the cast kind of turns against her. I'm trying to figure out because there's two different ways that this could have played out. Either something really bad did go down in Aspen and Bravo and the production company is kind of bracing themselves. And that's why we haven't seen much of Kathy because, you know, that's going to be the only time that we really see her to, you know, cut back on screen time. or we do know that she was in contract negotiations forever because people loved her so much last season and she was like really holding out to get a lot of money.

So I feel like, man, if she put them through the ringer through negotiations and something really, really problematic goes down in absent, absent, Aspen, she is going to look like such a jerk. I know. Like, that's the thing. I think that's why we haven't seen her so far. because I remember, like, reading, that was all getting reported on at the time of filming. And I feel like they were like probably a month into filming or something like that before Kathy had like officially said yes to doing the season. And yeah, I'm curious once she shows up how much we're actually going to get of her.

Because, you know, depending on if there's like legal threats being made or, you know, it sounds like it could be getting pretty messy. Like they might not want Kathy Hilton to be. on the show so much this season. And I did hear that, you know, whatever did go down in Aspen, that was really bad, wasn't caught on camera, but that there was like a group of housewives there. So I don't know if that will make any difference. I think it'll be interesting to see how they navigate it because it does have such big implications with the rest of the cast, but it wasn't caught, you know, on camera.

I'm also just really curious to know the fight that goes down between Kyle and Kathy. You know, because we get another Lisa Renna intervention. I feel like that is going to be her job this year just to give everybody different interventions. And she's like, you know, you say really bad things about Kyle. And right before I jump on this podcast, I saw a post that Kathy had written in somebody's Instagram comments that they were talking about Kim Richards coming back. And Kathy was like, Kim and I. never fight. We've had maybe like two fights in 10 years and we don't stay mad at each other.

And then she also said, Kyle and I have only fought about one thing in 10 years, which to me is like, really? Like, because I feel like every other week they're fighting. And surely it can't be about the same thing. Well, we know their, I mean, their big kind of family rift was over Kyle's show, American woman because they thought she wasn't, you know, being respectful about their mom. But yeah, I feel like we've moved past that. And if Kathy hasn't, then maybe, maybe that's a Kathy problem at this point. I mean, I can't keep up with these people, honestly. I know. I'm curious to see where the season goes. And I'm excited to watch it all. And I'm sure, I'm sure you'll have lots of great content about all of it, too. I mean, I got to say, I do just love Beverly Hill.

No matter what, like I always look forward to Wednesday night at 8 o'clock when I am going to sit down with ice cream and watch the Real Housewives Beverly Hills. It's just so enjoyable to me. I don't know if it's because I'm so invested in the characters or they truly understand the assignment. But it's just top tier. I love it. I really do. I agree. And I think the last couple seasons especially, it's felt like it kind of like clicked back into a place that maybe it was.

Yeah. It had fallen a little bit maybe for a couple seasons. But the last couple of years have been a lot of fun to watch, a lot of fun to talk about. And I'm so glad that you were able to come and talk about it with me today. I'm so excited. This is like a bucket list podcast to be on. So thank you, Dylan. And anytime you want to come online, you're more than welcome.

Amazing. I would love to tell everyone where they can listen to you, follow you, all of that good stuff. So my podcast is Morgan's Pop Talks. We talk about all things reality TV and pop culture. And then you can follow me on TikTok and Instagram at Morgan P. Talks. Amazing. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you everyone for listening.

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