Mention It All - What Was Filming This Season Of RHOBH Really Like? Ft. Crystal Kung Minkoff

Episode Date: August 26, 2021

Bari and Dylan are joined by Crystal Kung Minkoff, and they ask all their burning questions about this season of RHOBH. Crystal talks about joining Housewives during such an intense season, and who in the cast was different than she expected. She shares some new details on her relationship with Sutton, gives her honest opinion of RHONY this season, then gives a full play-by-play of her unique first date with Rob. Earlier in the episode, Dylan and Bari recap this week’s RHOBH, where Dorit and Garcelle clashed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, though? And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep week. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer.

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. Sweathing. Because it is another goddamn heat. Heat storm, heat, heat wave. Heat storm? A heat wave. Made that up. Let me tell you.

So last night, I went to Ms. Sonia Morgan's preview performance for her, Sonia in your city tour. And it was really, it was an experience. Yes, still. And we realize that you went to the pre, whatever, pre-rehearsal. but I'm going probably to the actual one, like the show. Remember I asked you the other day? I was like, what is this?

Okay. You totally should. It was a very entertaining time. You know, Sonia was, I would say, feeling loose and having a good time. And, you know, I enjoyed it. It was a fun night. I mean, what could not be fun about that, you know? But I'm intrigued.

Yeah, it was funny because it was funny because I feel like everyone at the event had absolutely no idea what to expect. Yeah. And so beforehand, we're kind of like, okay, like, is this like a, it says like comedy show, but like is it like a musical thing? Like, is she doing stand up? And it was it was hard to describe, but a great time nonetheless. Good. Are you allowed to answer? Was there any guests?

Were there any guests there? Like, were there any surprises? there were there were other performers there were not like Bravo guests so I don't know but I think there's going to be so she I think she's doing one in New York one in Philly one in D like there's like a bunch of cities and I think the guests might be different at each one like I like they might have like a different like drag queen at each show I don't know but it's given Lou Anne or run for her money I know it's a very different like if you've

seen, if you've seen Luann's show, it's like very, it's very, like, well put together. Like, it's like a well-oiled machine, but it's not like, it doesn't feel like chaotic, which is fine. Right. It's a, you know, it's clearly like a well-produced show. But I would say this was a little more, like, pure entertainment because it was like kind of messy in like a fun way that you want, son, that you like, you expect from Sonia. So. Let's, okay, before we, before we prattle on any further, let's get into Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills. Of course, we have our interview with Crystal Kong Minkoff later in the episode. So we're just going to chat through some of the top moments from last night's episode.

And then we have a really great interview. So, you know, just keep your ears. I was going to say keep your eyes peeled, but that's not how that works. It's a podcast. So like, don't stop listening. Um, okay, so last night's episode, definitely like the, the centerpiece was the Rina beauty party, which we'll talk about. Quickly, I do want to mention, um, we see Lisa Rina with both of her daughters.

My first note. My first note. They're trying on some of her old dresses. And we see Ayal who, oh, he's so hot. He's so hot. They're so cute together. Like, they're such a. cute couple, him and Delilah.

And we obviously see how Lisa feels about her relationship as opposed to Amelia, little Amelia Gray and Scott. It's like awkward. I mean, I guess this was still probably like six or seven months ago when they filmed this. But now that Amelia and Scott have been together for like almost a year, it's like, do we still feel the same way about it? because it's going to be awkward if they're together for like a long time. And Lisa's like on record as being like, this is cringy.

I know. And it's funny because the first time they talked about it, like when they, she like, not the word admitted, but when she like first addressed it on the show. Right. It's way, she's way more open about not liking it now. Like she was, eh, you could tell she wasn't happy. But now she's like, no. Yeah.

It was actually weird because the first time she was. brought up, she was like, oh, you know, it's fun. And now, like, it's been a few months. And she's kind of like, oh, you know, like, why does it have to be him? Like, she's, you know, it's, it's, it's interesting. And we know Harry Hamlin has feelings, even though he'll never talk about it on camera. No. And it's just sad because, like, the whole world obviously agrees with Lisa. I shouldn't say the whole world, a lot of the world. But like, you never know. It could be one of those couples that absolutely surprises the shit out of everyone and

lasts a lifetime. And I wish them well. It could be. So we have, I feel like we have another event. So we had Dereat hosted the meeting that Sutton called. And now Crystal is hosting Lisa's Rina Beauty launch, which is, it's so interesting to hear. that Crystal just loves using her home to host things. And she says that in like normal non-pandemic times,

she's hosting two to three parties a week for like random, not like random people, but like she just offers up her house, which is so crazy. Like I, the thought of hosting like, of like having three friends over for like a movie night stresses me out. So like the idea that she's just like regularly hosting these like large,

produced events is wild. Because your house is so gorgeous and so beautiful and she's so like humble. She's like, I just like to do it because it goes to my personality. Like I love planning. She's so great. And let me tell you, this Rina Beauty event looks gorgeous. It does. Outdoor setup.

They're only, you know, because of pandemic reasons, it's only like the eight of them at this thing. Even poor Cheryl, the business partner has to be. to leave before they sit down to eat. Okay, part of me feels like she said, okay, I'm going now is because like there was, there was no one else there besides the cast. So there was no reason for her to be there. Like, right.

Well, it's weird because like obviously the whole party was lip themed. You know, like they, there were touches there. But like when it's really just the cast hanging out again, it's like there wasn't, they didn't like talk about the lipstick and stuff that much. Like it very much was like, okay, this is the party theme, but like the actual party is just like the eight of us eating lunch. Yeah.

And I honestly felt bad because it was a big deal for Rina. And I just have to point out her outfit that she wore to that event was one of my favorite looks she's ever worn. Oh. I thought everybody looked really nice. And the way they, you know, the lighting, the different shots that they had, like, everybody just looked gorgeous at this lunch. like Doreet's little top knot ponytail. Kyle looked great. Garcel in her oversized sunglasses,

Sutton in her like red power suit. Like I was, I was into everything. Like I just thought this was, something about Crystal's backyard. It's very cinematic. Well, that makes sense. So, yeah, there's like Lion King memorabilia in the background.

But so we go into this lunch and we know the big issue already is going to be that Dorrit wants to bring up this issue that she feels Garcel has with her. And I think it's interesting that we're framing this, or that Derrit is framing this as I feel like Garcel has an issue with me. So I'm going to like ask her what her issue is, not like I have an issue with Garcel and I'm going to confront her about something. Because I feel like Derreet's putting herself in like a defensive position when you can tell that Garcel is kind of like, I mean, I don't really feel like I'm doing anything to you,

but I'll tell you that I think you're kind of annoying. I completely agree that Doreet went into it with the wrong, like, attitude. She was very defensive. And she, along with everyone else that I noticed and they even had like mentioned it, is they all feel that way about Doree. Like she just doesn't land the plane. Like I was laughing out loud when Kyle was like, you asked Doreet, what time it is? and she tells you how to build the clock.

Like she just can never give a straight answer. She talks for so long. And like watching that conversation was a bit exhausting because like Garcel was being very like mature as she is obviously and like genuine. And she's like, yeah, let's talk about it. Okay. That's what I did. Whatever. And Durit kept going.

Like she kept going and going and going and going. And even Garcell's like, wait, we're going around again in circles. Like I don't understand. We came to the conclusion. And Garcel, I feel like Garcel doesn't actually have a reason to dislike Derrete. So she's trying to be as diplomatic as possible because she doesn't want to hurt her feelings or be rude. But then Derreet is like, okay, so you're saying if I've done that. But you really mean when I've done that.

And it's like, I mean, yeah, there's a, she wouldn't have said it if you've never done that before. But at the same time, it's like, she's. trying to be as polite as possible while also telling you what her issue is. And I think it's, it's like, Doreet kind of wants to start shit, but at the same time, she doesn't want, she wants Garcel to like her. And so I think she's kind of like frustrated because she feels like Garcel has an issue with her. And like, when she's like, you know, at the end, when she's like, I would hate to be accused of belaboring a point. It's like, Doreen, just like, You talk a lot.

It's not like a character flaw. You're just like, you're just like long winded. I don't know. I love what she's already been called. With London on Shaz when everybody's like, the girl talks too much. It's like some people just,

some people just are that way. I love that though and Durit was like, really? And she like did the head nod. But like it was, I like tell Garcel, because she did bring up what Garcel said or did in, in La Quinta and Garcel got really upset and was like,

fuck you, fuck you. And I like the fact that the girls were like, Garcel sit down. Come on. Like, don't, don't let this get to you. Because Garcel had a point. She's like,

that Erica's not even mad at me. That has nothing to do with you. Like, why? And that goes to your point. Like, I want to know what Durit wanted out of this guy. Like, did you want to move forward or do you want to pick? and pick and pick, like what, what was the, what, what was the motive? I'm not sure. I'm still not sure, but I'm glad that it kind of like sizzled, fizzled. That was, fizzled. That was definitely,

that sizzled. That was a weirdly messy moment from Doreet because I feel like she normally isn't the kind of person. I mean, she'll like have her little thing that she wants to bring up, like with Garcell, but then to bring back up the Erica thing. you know, what you did in Palm Springs, Garcel. It just was, it felt unnecessary. And clearly nobody else in the group really was interested in rehashing that, including Erica, like you said. And, but then it was, it was weird because then Sutton,

I felt like everybody at the table was kind of like throwing in their two cents here and there. Like, oh, like, how does everyone feel about Derreet? How, how does everyone feel about Garcel? et cetera, et cetera. But then Sutton says like one thing. And Erica is ready to jump down her fucking throat because I would have done the exact same thing if I was Erica.

Like I was waiting for that to happen. I actually 100% for like I'm obviously like am a fan of Erica and like obviously the situation is like, you know, whatever. But what Erica did at Sutton could have been extreme. It was a little. But I for one, I feel like I would have reacted that way too because it just hit. after she went home with that information that she got last week and Sutton has no, like, why would you, shut up? You're shut up.

What do you have to do with this? I think it's, yeah, it's, the thing with Sutton is that I feel like she, we still are like digging through the layers of what's going on with Erica. And Sutton clearly still is going to have more to say. like next week we see in the preview they're talking about the idea of the divorce being a sham and Sutton is the one who's kind of like, I don't know if I buy it. But I just feel like Erica,

for the most part in this group can feel kind of like it's a safe space and Sutton is the one person who's sort of preventing that. Like even with Garcel, I think Garcel Garcel maybe has asked more questions, but on the whole, I feel like Erica generally feels like supported by Garcel, whereas with Sutton, she really feels like there's this like,

she's trying to get to the bottom of something. She might not want, she kind of doesn't want me to succeed type of thing. And I think Sutton, I think, I don't think Sutton sees it that way. I think Sutton truly is like, I have questions. I can't help the fact that I have questions. And so like, and I think I understand why Erica is like pissed off. about it, but I still don't think Sutton is like trying to make an enemy out of Erica. I think she genuinely wants answers, but because of the situation Erica's in, having somebody like Sutton asking questions all the time is not a good thing. Asking questions is absolutely one thing.

And everyone there has done it. Like, we even have questions, duh. But getting legal advice and worrying about your reputation. and hanging out with this person is a whole other thing. And I think that's where Erica's looking at it. And it's like, funny you say that that she feels comfortable because I actually thought that too earlier in the episode when Erica had Kyle and Rina over.

I actually feel like Erica was completely herself comfortable and like open to talking to Kyle and Rina and didn't seem like she was on eggshells in my. opinion. It seemed like she was totally different. I don't think she would have any reason to be on eggshells around Kyle and Rina. With cameras, I'm saying. Like, I feel like she was different. Kyle and Rina are the two in the cast that are basically, have basically chosen their side

that they don't, they don't seem to care to find out any details. You know, Kyle couldn't even read the article. It was too long. and so I feel like I mean obviously the cameras are you know some element you know she knows I feel like Erica knows what she is and isn't going to say on camera and so you know when she's having Rinna and Kyle over it is a safe space because it's like these two aren't

trying to get to the bottom of anything whether whether Erica is guilty of stuff or not it's not fun to be around somebody who is like investigating you. And I think Sutton kind of is in that role now of like the investigator. And so she feels... She feels very comfortable with Rina and Kyle to be like, I stole this champagne from Tom's wine cellar, cheers bitches. Whereas like, if she did that with Sutton, Sutton would probably be like, well, who's money paid for the champagne? She's like, I can't drink the champagne.

Which is a real question. I'm sitting there watching it being like, this champagne was purchased just with like some orphans settlement money. Like literally every single, every possession that Erica has looking at it, it's like a price tag that somebody didn't get that they were owed. Uh, yeah. So looking at it like that, it's very uncountable.

Imagine, yeah. So it's a little weird to be like, cheers, you took this from the house because it's like, you know, okay, cheers. It's probably expensive.

Yeah, I would imagine. But it's so, like I don't know if we're going to find out. All of a sudden this week, though, we found out in real time that now his firm owes like over a hundred million dollars to people. And I gas when I read that. I was like,

that is? It feels shocking. But at the same time, it's like, well, they've spent a lot of money over the years. So I don't think if Tom was making millions of dollars at one point legitimately, then he wouldn't have had a reason to start, you know, doing shady stuff if he was making all that money in a legit way. So I don't know. I feel like it's just there's probably a bottomless pit of bad stuff.

Oh, totally. But the part also, though, I found interesting was when the fact that Erica kind of backtracked a little and the whole cheating, she found out he was cheating. And so she kept, you know, she said this before where she's like, what am I supposed to just leave and go where? So that's when she started working on her so she can stand on her own two feet in order to leave him. But she's been working for years already. And maybe I don't know if she had like a cat where she was like, okay, I have enough money now.

I'm going to leave. Like, I don't know. Yeah, the timeline is a little strange because then, you know, they're asking about when she knew about the infidelity. and she links it back to when she was with Yolanda, I think this was when Yolanda was going through her split with David. And basically she's saying that Yolanda had told her basically like don't trust men essentially. And so then Erica like that night went home and looked through Tom's phone.

And it's like that story feels it feels like, I don't want to say, it feels like fake, but it just, it's like almost a little too perfect. It's like, you've been married to this guy for 20 years. You've been on this show for like five years. And like the moment you knew your marriage wasn't perfect was because your co-star on the show like said something about her public divorce. So then like that night you found out your husband was cheating, but you like didn't say anything until now. I, it feels like if you were like writing, if you were writing like a soap opera, I feel like that's the storyline you would write, which it definitely could be true.

But also I'm like, oh, damn, we're going back to Yolanda. Okay. Listen, it could be true. But I feel like that that story was probably not, it could not be like perfect, but everything she's saying is true, but just not that correct timeline and just made it sound better.

I don't know. But it does seem like it makes sense, just like not going home is at night coincidentally. Yeah, it's like, It's very, it feels like when they, when they like adapt a true story into a movie and they kind of like move the pieces around to make it into like a compelling narrative. I feel like she's telling us like the movie. She's telling she's telling us like the movie version. Yeah, let's talk about American woman.

Because this last scene between Kyle and Kathy. Did you like that segue? That was a great segue. Thank you, Barry. I've loved to this scene between Kyle and Kathy because we've gotten a lot of fun moments from Kathy. this season, but we haven't gotten too much of like a deeper look into her as a person. And seeing her get emotional when the producer asked about those 10 years when she and Kyle were talking less, it is like so, it's so fascinating to see the like Hilton, Richard's

sister's dynamic through the years. And we've never, we've never gotten a close look at the Kathy side of things. And I love that they're giving that to us a little bit, even though she's not a full-time cast member. Yeah, I didn't realize that they weren't not talking or not in the best terms for that long. I didn't realize it was that amount of time. 10 years is like a really long time.

I was a little surprised. Yeah, I mean, it's basically the whole time that Kyle was on the show. Which I think we, I mean, I think maybe we knew for part of that time that, like, they weren't necessarily super close. But the fact that they were like not really on good terms was something I don't think we always knew about. And that Kyle, like, wasn't getting invited to family Christmases and stuff. Like, that's like, that's a really hard, hard thing. And clearly they both still have their little, like, niggles about that.

the fact that Kathy still clearly is a little annoyed about the American woman stuff. And Kyle really, I don't think Kyle ever saw it. They've never like seen eye to eye on that. And I think Kyle still feels like it was sort of misunderstood. I think Kathy's very old school in that sense. Yes. She's like, she's like, it doesn't matter if what was in the show was like a little bit fictional.

It's like the fact that people were talking about it at all. Yep. was like hard was like not cool to me and i think it's it's it's to hear them talk about kim the fact that you know they say kim feels you know isolated lonely whatever it's it's interesting that they're having this conversation and about not wanting kim to feel isolated and yet we're not seeing kim at all on the show this season i know it's like you know that's a whole separate issue of whether she's filming. But like,

it would just be like so nice to see all three of them together. Yes. But you know, my favorite part of this conversation was when Kathy, they were talking about the lunch the day prior and Kathy was like, well, who said fuck you? And I was like, wait, are you? Kathy?

So then they did the flashback. Thank God for like these cameras. Kathy was literally either picking food out of her teeth or putting her lipstick on. And like it literally didn't know the argument was happening. There was six of them, seven of at the table. I love the way they edited this together. The way that they didn't, when we were in the scene, they were just showing us the action.

You know, we really were just seeing Garcel Dorete close up. And then the next day they show us this wider angle where it's Garcel cursing out Doree. And in the background, you just see Kathy with her little compact mirror. You weren't in a loud restaurant. You her had to. How can you zone that is amazing. That is an amazing talent that she had.

But she literally is just unbothered. Like she just cannot just have time for these people. But like there's only, it's a big table, but like you're not that far away. Yeah. She's amazing. But I hope that we see or Doreet kind of brings down her. wall a little bit. That's what I am hopeful for in the next

coming episodes or in real life. Because I kind of really want Dorit to do better. Like she's not bringing a lot for me this season and I love Doree. This has been a little bit of an underwhelming season for Doree and I feel like, you know, for a lot of the first half of

the season, she was kind of just on the sidelines. And I I respect that I think this episode she tried to It does never go as well But it didn't it didn't quite work And I think the bullying accusation is all is Usually Illadvised on Housewives because that word

Just has so much baggage along with it That whether or not you're using it accurately Which I don't really think Doreet was I just think it rarely ever lands because people are always going to be like, that's a big word. That's a, bully is a big word.

I don't know if you don't use, don't throw that word around. And I feel like it was kind of like. At a lot feel. A little bit of a reach. Yeah. Yeah. But I just feel like we've seen this before

where you're not having that strong of a season and then you just start a fight with someone who is in their newer season. It's just not, it doesn't end well for that. We'll see what happens. next week with the wedding dresses and with everything else that's going on. Stick around because our interview with Crystal is coming up next and it's a great one.

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One of our new favorites, Crystal Kang Minkoff. Crystal, welcome to the podcast. Thank you. How are you? I'm good. I'm excited to meet you guys. I'm such fans. Yay.

We are also such fans. We like everyone. have been loving this season of Beverly Hills. And I'm excited to chat with you and kind of debrief a little bit on what we have been seeing unfold the last few weeks because there's been a lot going on. When Dylan and I recap every week, we're like, we take like a breath before. We're like, oh, my God. So I can only imagine you.

I know. Even like when I watch, because we get it a few days before, Rob and I will watch together. and we watch it like I wasn't there. We're like, oh my gosh. And then he looks and he's like, I can't believe you were there. Oh, like, trust. I don't know.

It's wild to watch it, yeah. That's fun, though. I'm curious to know, like, this is obviously a very tumultuous season to kind of step into for your first season. Yeah. Was there a moment when you were filming that you were kind of like,

oh, this is going to be like a really big deal. Like, this is going to be a mess when it's airing. I don't know if I ever had that thought because I don't, you know, when you do it, it's the minute you step on to filming, it feels and looks very different than the show. Like, so I just, the whole time it was like, because I had always watched the show, but sort of as a generic viewer, I didn't really dive deep like you guys do. I was like in the backhouse. Oh, it doesn't consume your life.

It did it. I was on my phone, you know, it's kind of background noise. So, like, being on it was like, whoa, it doesn't, it doesn't, I've never been on that side of camera. So I just remember thinking all the time, like, should I leave? Like, this was a lot going on. I was felt like, like, should I really be here? But then I was like, this is, yeah, I'm like, are they going to show this?

Like, it just seems so big. And every season I'd seen before wasn't that intense. Yeah. I was like, oh, maybe this stuff happens and then they cut it out. Wait, I'm laughing at your response was that it wasn't one moment. It was every moment you're like, should I leave? Every moment, yeah, every day. So tell us how you ended up on housewives and what ultimately made your decision to do it. My first call was from Teddy and just was like, it was a text. Like, are you interested in? doing this show and I said no I just wrote back no and she's like well we're interested I was like well you know that's so nice but no and then she's like come on just take a phone call and it COVID had

we just got in lockdown so Rob was like you have like take a call what are you going to do the rest of the year you know nothing so I'm like okay and then it just sort of kept going on and I was like I don't know I feel bad talking to them so I don't want to you know do it and that dating kind of It's like dating and I'm not interested and I'm catfishing and it was the whole thing. Yeah. And then I got a call from Kathy closer and she's like, you want to do it? I was like, uh, and then she really committed. She's like, let's just go in together.

Let's, you know, let's just do it. And I was like, you know what? The world is like imploding. Everyone is losing so much in their life, so many opportunities. And I was like, maybe the universe is telling me to like take an opportunity that I I would have probably said no to any other year. So that's what happens. So then I said yes.

And then every time I was there, I was like, what am I doing there? I know you said that when you were, when you show up to film, it doesn't, it feels and looks different than it is, you know, watching it on TV. How has your experience of sort of being a housewife been compared to what you kind of had in your mind? Well, I think the nature of our season, it's like it's so consequential what's happening right now, right? Where it's like I thought we were going to be fighting about dogs or clothes or something like that where I'm like, it's so petty that I was like, okay, whatever. And then while this was happening, it took me a minute because again, I was like, oh, maybe this is all not going to be a part of it.

I literally thought that. You know, so I was like, I sort of was watching. it and then thinking, okay, when are we going to start fighting up? Like, pet, I don't know. It was, I had no idea what to expect. But like anything, like, you know, if you go watch like, you know, like a TV show, you know, like one of those like American Idol things I've been, it looks so big on camera, you know, but it's actually a very small stage.

So that's, but it felt opposite where it's like when you watch a show, everything's like close up shots. But then I walk in and it's like so. big. And I was like, whoa, you know, it just, I was just a little bit of a deer in headlights the whole time. I guess that's kind of good, though, that it wasn't what you were expecting. And it's like still surprising to you. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think that's why my reactions are so, I mean, I'm just, you know, like a regular person in sort of a weirdly irregular world, I guess. But yeah, I mean, all my reactions are totally authentic and just constantly shocked.

I don't know what to say. I think sometimes people have this idea of how like storylines work on these shows where it's like, oh, like they decide that for these two episodes, you guys are going to argue about this and then it moves on to the next thing. And like I feel like this season is a really good illustration of how it's like, you guys didn't have any clue, you know, what was going to be happening.

And you can see that, you know, when the LA Times article comes out and you're, you know, coming downstairs in the Lakeinta house. that it's like, oh, this is happening in real time and you're like processing it. Yeah. Someone said to me, it's so funny when you read like, oh, she just wants a storyline. And I was talking to someone who's a producer, he was like, no one wants a storyline on the show.

Yeah. Let me be clear. I'm not excited. Like, when you have a storyline, it's very intense on their show. So, because it's not scripted. So, you know. And then all the focus goes to whoever storyline is. Yeah, you don't want it.

Like, I wish. it was almost scripted. Like these two episodes, because then you could sort of mentally check out of the experience because you're like, oh, it's supposed to be doing this. But it's nothing like that. It's just actual reality of what's happening.

Yeah. And yeah, it's real. You know what? We obviously die hard. How many times do you have to repeat? We love Bravo so much. We love all these reality shows. And it's funny.

It's like, oh, it's scripted. And we already knew in our mindset that it wasn't. But we have talked to so many housewives and other Bravo liberties who have like actually told us. It's not like this is our lives. Like it's not scripted. It's actually like you just said you kind of wish it was, which I think is funny. It would be easier, truly.

Yeah. But yeah, it's like I said, when I watch it, I really watch it like it's a soap opera. Right. And that's like, look at Rob and it's like, I cannot believe I was there. But it's real and it's, but it reads a soap opera. But it's pretty wild. Yeah. Does Rob kind of have fun, watch.

you in this world because obviously he's, you know, been in the entertainment industry forever, but on a very different side of things. Is it kind of just amusing to him to see all this go down? Totally. I mean, he was like, I think he's like the classic husband that like, oh, God, you're watching that show and like, you know? And then now that I'm on it, his reactions are hysterical because he's like, this is so dramatic. And, you know, he draws like furry animals.

Like his experience of entertainment. is very soft and, like, happy and, like, oh, should we hurt the mom? Like, is you going to, you know, the story of the death? You know, like, that's his life. Like, this is like, oh, my God, what's happening. But while I'm watching it in bed crying, he's like, oh, that was a great episode. He just, like, goes away. Like, he is, it's so he understands what's going on.

Right. I take it on so much. And, but he's totally enjoying it. I remember Garcell told this story about how when she went back to film the coming to America sequel. It was like 30 years later and everybody on the set just wanted to hear about what it was like to be on Housewives. It's like Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall and they're like, so what's what's Housewives like?

That is so funny. Oh my God. When you say that, so Rob directed Honda Mansion with Eddie. Yes. And Eddie would call Rob the white Arsenio Hall. I don't know if that story is Irvin said before, but he's like, he always said the White Arsenio Hall. So that's from that movie.

I didn't even know that's funny. Yeah. So Rob says a lot. He goes into meetings and they're like, so can we talk about Crystal? Oh my gosh. That is hilarious. It really is. Okay.

So who in the Bravo world has been most welcoming to you? I guess we could say besides Kathy because we've seen that. I started to get, which I kind of freaked me out because then I realized like I was now a housewife, but I would start to get like messages from housewives on other branches. You know, just like welcome to the club here for support. It was really nice. I remember Derinda messaged me and I'm like, I'm such a Durinda fan. I was like, I was texting my friend Steve and I was like, oh my God, Durinda's texting me. And then because Ebony and Tiffany and I were like our first year kind of doing what we were doing, we have sort of this connect.

like what's your experience, how's it been going? Yeah. It's been really nice. But the girls, like all on my show have been welcoming at different stages, but all in their own ways, for sure. And I think that, you know, they remember what it's like to be their first time. Right. And so, yeah, it's been, yeah, everyone's been quite welcoming.

Was there anyone that you, in your cast, that you kind of had a preconceived notion about that turned out not to be true or maybe that you thought you would click with and you didn't right away? I thought Erica would be like really cold because that's like her sort of personality on the show.

And then I was, she was immediately very warm. But then I remember Reno was like you're getting a different Erica. And this is before it started. It should already softened, I guess. So I didn't I just sort of watch a show and then went into this person who was like always like kind of fixing my clothes and like she's like help like sit up straight and like because I've never been on camera. So that was like I was like oh okay.

And then so that's why I think I was just always like leaning in with empathy with her because I'm like oh she was so nice to me and helpful. And I expected sort of like the you know Disney villain character to me. But she wasn't. And I thought Doreet would be aloof, but she was super warm. Like, I know, I just thought she was like going to be kind of flighty around me. And she was like, I love your family. And like, you know, you should bring the kids over immediately like that with me. Oh, good.

And Garcel. Garcel, right when I walked in was like, you're Rob's wife. Like, she like screamed it out. And I was like, I know. Like, I was so excited to see you because I hadn't seen her for a long time. I love your friendship with Garcel on the show. Like when you guys were in La Quinta at the hotel together, it felt like you were kind of like a little dynamic duo.

Bill and the T. Actually, we have a lot of moments like that. You know, there's only so much that they can air. Right. But we have a lot of just sort of the two of us hanging out. And yeah, when we're, I noticed that I'm better filming one-on-one. And I don't say that like with the girls. I just filming the sort of experience of it when I watch myself.

Like, I relax more when I'm with the... just one person, I can sort of forget the cameras. Right. The whole cast, because it's a bigger, it's like all big. I sort of notice it more so I can really sort of open up when I'm with a smaller group. And so I got to film a lot with Garcel alone, which is nice. Well, I hope those are things we wish we can see more of. But speaking of certain friendships, it seems like you and Sutton have actually come a long way in just a few short episodes.

But did anything happen or were there any, anything that was resolved after everything went down with Erica? Was like, was there something specific that happened between you two? Which part? Sorry, which part? You mean after Lekinta? So like after ugly leather pants? Yeah.

It kind of felt like. Yeah. So that's why they don't. Yeah. By the way, I refer it to ugly leather pants. So like when I'm just like casually talking to like my friend like, oh yeah, they're like, oh, yeah. So after a leg or pants, it's kind of a watershed moment.

Like, Tyler, before. It's all it. It's how I reference everything. So it's like, like, BC, but now it's like B-LB, right? Harry's Bollinez lunch slash ugly leather pants. Yeah. So that was obviously a big blowout. And then that night, we found out about the COVID situation.

And then we all had to go home and quarantine and start. Sutton called me and I was sitting in this chair and I was like, what does she want? And I closed the door when we talked it out and it was like no more. And I was like, I have not wanted it since it happened. Right. I don't know if she's like, that's not true. And I'm like, I, like, I swear. Like, I really haven't. I don't want to ever talk about it again. And we're like, I said, but when you say we're not talking about it again, you do not talk about it again. it's a commitment real and she's like I'm committed I said okay then we're going to move forward and so we had that space and it's not aired so that's why when we're suddenly like oh then we're in

lakinta then it's like we're cool and we're still working on it's not like because I had never met her before so my only experience was up until then so it was like starting fresh so when you see us it's starting to build the friendship and getting to know each other and that was my thing was like, I'm going to try to start fresh, even though I still had, like, wounds. And I'm sure she did too. That was our commitment. And we both did it. So it was, yeah, we're.

Yeah. You should have been like, I'm fully committed. But like, do you actually think my pants are ugly? Or are you just saying that? I don't need her validation of those amazing pants. I agree. I feel like Sutton has a lot of style, but it's very particular to her. So, like, her, her,

idea of what might be ugly is not necessarily universal. I'm not going to disagree. You're not getting anything, but I won't disagree with your opinion, Dylan. Okay. I do feel like it's hard when you're on, obviously there's a whole season. You're filming for, you know, four months or something. When there's kind of an ongoing conflict, it makes sense from a personal standpoint that it's like you can't just move right past it, but then you don't necessarily want to spend the whole season, you know, going back and forth. So it's kind of, I feel like it's been nice as a viewer that it's like, okay, I'm sure they still have their kind of tension or moments or whatever, but it's not like still being rehashed for half the episode. So it's, it's kind of nice that you guys were

able to sort of set it aside and not reopen that box every time you're together. That's a great observation because I remember when I was talking about. I called him in Tahoe. Obviously, I was so distraught. I don't know. I'm like, this is my fourth day of shooting, you know, and this is going on. He's like, you need to resolve it. Like, I'll get out. I was like, I don't be talking about. He's like, that's how it works. Like, you have to do that. And I said, that's inauthentic to me. And the thing is that you have to keep filming and filming and filming, and I have no space to resolve it for myself. And so that's, I think, why that time was so good for me between pants and Lakeinta, because I really genuinely

needed it. And I would be super fake on the show if I just hugged it out because I would have internally held. And I already had so much internal struggle with it opening up and saying, I can't deal with this yet. So it would have been. inauthentic to me. So that's why it took a while. But because we both put it aside, I was actually genuinely able to start. And it takes time, but it was genuine. So that's what I want for myself. I don't want to like pretend to be your friend. Like that's, you know, that's hard. Yeah. And we can, I feel like the viewers can tell when it's like really just kind of fake, you know, like when you're really just doing it to do it. But it's nice when you can feel like there's

been a little bit of space and it's like, okay, we're, we're actually moving forward, not just pretending not to care. Yeah. And I actually really like that. Like hearing that, that's how you did it and how you felt and that we went through the motions and now you're in a good place. Well, I think. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And we're still getting to know each other. We only had, you know, that was already halfway through the season and it's not that much time left because obviously there's so much else going on. And, you know, You know, they're not going to film us constantly doing kumbaya and like holding hands and, you know, healing circles and crap. So, you know, you have to deal with so much turmoil while

sort of on the underbelly of it trying to get to know each other. Right. But, you know, we do. And it's a, it takes time, but that's how real friendships develop. So how are you feeling heading into your first reunion and has anyone given you any advice? I wasn't nervous last week. Maybe I'm getting a little more. I don't know what to expect. But I just know I'm just going to tell the truth. And that's what sets me free.

And what's interesting about the show is you can tell the truth. And half the people can still dig your lying. And I've never had it in my life before. Because I've always been extremely, like my integrity is very important to me, whether I'm right or wrong. Like, I always try to be right in terms of being right as a good person. And even that can get you in trouble. It's bizarre.

But I have to go to bed with myself. So that's my thing. I'm just going to be honest. And but with an open mind and what I've learned and the things I, you know, that I'm going to stick with. And that's it. And hopefully it won't be that horrible. It's also, I mean, you were talking about how, you know, in your life, you know, know, people aren't questioning whether you're telling the truth.

And the reunion is kind of an unnatural thing because, you know, like, if you and Sutton agree to move on, you know, when you sit down in the reunion chair, Andy's going to be there with his note card and be like, so, Chris and Sutton. So, like, you kind of have to. Just like, I need to listen to her experience because everyone has their own. And her experience is real. You know what I mean? Like, that's everyone's even two people can be right at the same time. and something wrong happens and vice versa. So like I'm just going to do my best and listen.

And that's across the board, even if I don't have any issues with people, just sort of what they were going through. Because no one knows what I was going through. I was struggling the whole season really deeply. It was hard. The show was hard for me. And I just kind of clanned up a lot, you know.

And then I've had a lot of time. Obviously, we stopped to really process it. And so I think I'm in a better place with it. But yeah, of course, you know, I know the concept of the reunion. It's going to be. Right. Interesting.

I don't know. Maybe print out the definition of violated. I know what that means. I'm very good with linguistics. So I'm not worried about that. I'm excited, number one, to see your reunion look because I'm just confident that you'll be one of the best stress. But and also for your like one-liners.

I love, I remember in like the beginning when you. you like first met when we first saw you on the show, I was like, she's so good at like shutting something down, like really quick. Like you're either like, yeah or okay. And I'm like, I love that. It's so good. I don't need to. I know I feel. So, you know, you can try to move me. And if I'm open to movement, I'll tell you if I'm not, there's no more discussion. Can't wait. Okay, real quick. So I feel like you must have just a ton of amazing stories, you and Rob both. You posted the other day on your Instagram story that your first date with Rob was at the premiere of finding Nemo. Yeah.

I like can't stop thinking about that because it's just, it sounds so crazy. But what was it like when you first started seeing Rob kind of being like brought into this world where that's just a random date activity? I mean, I would be lying if I wasn't like, oh my God, like freaking out so excited. Because I grew up in L.A. and you have friends who are actors, you see them sort of leave for two weeks and stuff like that to film. But like, unless you're like in it, you don't know it. It's just, you know, it's universal studios. It's like, it's not real. And so, yeah, so I met him in this big studio.

He was directing movie. It was haunted mansion. It was like fabulous. And, you know, he's big offices. And then, but I was 20, you know. I was like, oh, just totally enamored with the whole thing. And then he called me the next day and was like, oh, do you want to go on a date next week? And then I was like, okay, so I found out that week it was the premiere and like the car picks me up.

Like, I don't even have ever been in car service. Like, it was a big deal. And then when we got there, he was just like, you can't walk the carpet with me. I was like, I don't want to walk the carpet. Oh, no. You can't take a picture with this like random person, you know? Right. Okay.

So that's why there's no Getty images because I was the whole. I think I have some like home photos and I'm sure I think I know I do. But like I remember like not wanting to. So his handler like walked me behind the carpet and so like that. And all I remember was like you walk into it was at the El Capitan and then you go across to Kodak and it's massive party after and all the tabletops. I remember so to stick like it was such a big deal. were like coral reefs the center of and they had all these stuffed animals of like nemo and stuff

and dory and i was like stealing them chryryl can i just tell you that finding nemo is is like one so i'm like living through this date right now because finding nemo i saw finding nemo on ice i had finding nemo bed sheets at sleepwick yeah like no you don't under like it's my was my favorite So I'm laughing, thinking about, imagine he's like, well, we can go to a movie tomorrow or I have this movie premiere tonight. Like, whatever you want. No, it was definitely like, and I do remember at the end during the credits, we like hold, we're holding hands. I was like, oh my gosh, it's like such a big deal. And then I got to like steal stuffed animals.

And so it was like a perfect night. It was really amazing. I'm obsessed with that story. Okay. So we're going to finish up with a quick game that we play with all our housewife guests. Okay. It's called, who would you choose? And for each question, you're going to pick somebody from your Beverly Hills cast for the answer.

It's not too shady, so don't, you're not going to ruffle any feathers with this. Okay. So first of all, who would you take motherhood advice from? Kyle. Okay. I feel like, yeah, we've heard that before. Come on. She's like the mom.

Whose closet would you read? Erica's same maybe she I mean she has like two at least two closets yeah she's the shoe pounds I haven't seen like she's I think she's the only closet I've seen in person okay I filmed that so I think that's why automatically I've Erica because I haven't I've only seen the girls on TV if I've seen them but I saw we know Lisa Rina is keeping all her old dresses in the garage so I have a garage full of junk all right I don't need to go with someone's garage.

Okay. Who would you want to plan your next vacation? So they're making all the arrangements. I'm going to say Doreet, because she's been traveling very well lately, like lots of private planes. I mean, it looks good. So I'm going to jump on that one. I'm not going to pay for it.

No, no, no, no. You're not putting the bill. We don't pay over here. I'm a really good free guest. Same. That's the way to be. Who would you want to cook you dinner? Kyle.

Kyle. She knows, she knows her way around a kitchen and she doesn't want Kathy to help. No. I don't know if I would want Kathy to cook me anything. Love her, but. Okay. Who would you take relationship advice from?

Kathy. The marriage, I mean, her marriage is just. I had dinner with Rick and Kathy the other day and they're so in love. Like, it's great. I mean, I have a great marriage, too, but it's like at that level, like, yeah. long together raising such successful kids going through so much turmoil like kathy knows what's up yeah i actually randomly was watching the simple life the other day and it was the first episode and it was so old school now that i think about it came out so long ago but that you saw kathy and rick and they

were it was like so many years ago but it's very cute i'm going to continue watching they're very um yeah who would you let decorate your house um kathy i want to see more of the inside of her house. We only saw her kitchen when you guys were playing tennis. So I don't really have like a lot of house. Oh, you'll see it. She has a dinner. Okay.

Okay. There's a lot more. Yes, I would imagine. I think that's what it is. There's so many brooms that you're like, it's a lot of house. Okay. And the last one, who, which housewife from another city would you want to join the Beverly Hills cast? Oh, I know this sounds crazy.

Okay, well, I'm going to say, I'm just going to throw up Ebony and Tiffany because I love them, but I also would love Bethany. Okay. Well, we know Bethany and Kyle have a little bit of history. And I like knew for some reason that you were going to say Tiffany and I was hoping that would because she can like, when you, when we were talking about closets before, her closet is one of like our favorites. That's what I thought of. So I was like, her closet can give these women a run for their money. I would love to see that. She, yes, she has a crazy closet.

Yeah, it's crazy. Every time she sees me in a picture or something, she's like, oh, I have that in like seven colors. Oh, my God. What did you think of the reaction on social media to your very limited edition, Birkin, that you showed on the show? Oh, it's so funny because I

always put my stuff down on my kitchen table to leave. And then there was that whole scene which I was like, oh, God, you know. It's hysterical. I mean, like, it looks like a gingerbread house. Like, I totally understand. Which I think Tiffany has that bag as well. She does.

She has it in blue. Yeah. I was with a, I was, I'm like, it's like a person. I was with a blue one the other day wondering if it was worth, you know, taking her home. But it was, it's funny, you know. And I think that I get it. Like, it's such an absurd sort of thing to. buy, but I buy investments. Like people buy watches, people buy houses. It's a very small thing that I

could put away. And like, it's a good investment. So that's how I look at it. Just it's Bitcoin in a person. I agree. People that don't understand the investment value of something like an remas bag. It's like they just can't wrap their mind around it. But it, I know what you mean. It makes sense. I don't buy things. I don't have that much stuff because it becomes worthless. So the things I do have, like I don't, yeah, I don't collect a lot of stuff. I'm not like, I don't have hundreds of bags. It's not my style. But if I do, I want to be able to sell it.

I have to. I want to. So that's my thing. So people don't get it and it's okay. And you never know. I mean, someday you might need to. You might remind me to say that. Okay, but I still do.

You want to see your closet as many, as little things you say. I would like to see it still. I'm going to bust out some stuff. I get a little nervous at showing everything in my house. Yeah, no, I agree. I don't know why people want to do that, but I, you know, I'll bring out little, little fun things out. Dylan, that's what we should do instead of like when we go, when COVID's over.

If when, hopefully we should do closet tours of housewives. people would love that we would love that i'm not sure the housewives would love that and i feel like i feel like my i can like feel my fingers getting a little sticky i know i get it i get it i feel that way when i my friends who have closets that are bananas and it's like i'm like wow you know and i envy it but i just i just don't like a lot of stuff so this seems like too much to deal with but I can totally appreciate it, you know? Yeah.

And for the record, I said that I would want to see you in New York. Oh. Okay. I don't know who I said that to. Maybe it was one of our episodes because I was just like talking to my friend. No, I was like, she's so chic. Like, I can see you in New York as well. I think I've always been such a fan in New York.

It's a little messy. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I don't mean this season. You are not, you are not joining this season. I won't allow it. Why is it so messy this? Oh my gosh.

Like it's just cringy, cringy every episode. I know. Well, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is not cringy every episode. It's riveting. And we are enjoying it so much

and we're loving your first season. And we're so happy that you could stop by and chat with us. I'm so happy to. Thank you for having me. Of course. Thank you. And hopefully we can talk soon.

Next time you're in New York, come hang out. We'll have fun. I will be in. York a lot soon. Perfect. Crystal, thank you so much. Have a great day. And we will talk to you soon. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. Hope you enjoyed that interview with Crystal. If you did, make sure to rate, review, follow the show, wherever you listen. We will be back on Monday with another episode. In the meantime, just be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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