Mention It All - Which Housewives Are Chronically Online? Ft. Samantha Bush

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

For this week’s Monday catchup, Dylan is joined by Betches’ own Samantha Bush, the mind behind the new pop culture account, Always On. They chat through all the biggest trending topics, like the details of Jax and Brittany’s separation, and Leah McSweeney’s bait-and-switch maneuver with her lawsuit. Later, they talk about their chronically online Bravo theories, and speculate on which Bravolebs have the highest screen time. @alwayson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents Ha ha ha laugh funny Mention It All A Bravo by Betches podcast We don't say that But now we said it With me, Dylan Hafer Heyver

Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer And I am happy to kick off This week with a returning guest Of course, you know her Betch's very own

Samantha Bush Hello Sam How's it going? Hi I'm so glad to be back I'm so glad to have you back And today I mean I would have you

back anytime, but today is a little bit special because we have a fun, exciting new project that you've been working on that's now, you know, live and in the world. Tell me a little bit about the Betches account that you are, you know, the face, the hands behind the keyboard, always on. Yes. So, has it just been such a long time coming. You know what I mean? Like, is it No idea. Are you not familiar? So yeah, it was the Bachelor Instagram account and now it's just been rebranded into something that we've been like slowly transitioning to for the last year.

And now it's always on, which is going to be like your go-to place for pop culture. Basically like anything chronically online, like you'll be able to find your people there. And of course we're still going to be talking about Bachelor over there too, but we're just like adding some more. Totally. I feel like if you, so if you're a follower of that account, it's always a little hit or miss like what comes up on people's like algorithm. So it's like you'll be following an account and then there will be like a change and you're like, what are you talking about? And it's like, no, that's actually you if you notice. So like over the last, you've been running this account for a little over a year now. And I feel like there was a point last spring or summer, I don't know, what is time where it was like what if we posted about something that's not like. a dating TV show and we were like, I don't know, people might freak out. And then all of a sudden you're posting about like Gilmore Girls and stuff. And it's like popping off on the explore page and everybody's like more. Yeah. You know, we thought it would just be kind of more

of like a reality TV place. And then it has slowly turned into like where we're talking Oscars, Golden Globes. Like it's been really, really fun. Like I can't wait for the Met Gala. We're talking about where is Kate Middleton. We're talking about, you know, who, who is, I don't know, what else is happening in the walls? Timothy Chalime dressed like Bernard from the rescuers. Like, there's a lot going on. There's a lot happening. Yeah, it's one of my favorite accounts to follow when it was The Bachelor and even more now that it's always on.

So if you are not already following, go check out. It's out always on on Instagram. And of course, The Bachelor podcast is still going strong. Of course. We have, what is it, Women Tell All tonight? Women Tell All is Tonight. Wow. I haven't watched it.

I haven't watched an episode of The Bachelor in years, but this season, it's, it's entering my consciousness in a way that it hasn't in a while. This season, I think Golden Bachelor and then going into Joey's season was like the perfect kind of like, like, follow up. Yeah. Because Golden Bachelor really revived the franchise. Like this franchise was in the, it was down bad for a while. Because like it was so popular.

Like women would leave this show. They'd be fifth runner up. They'd leave the show. and they'd have a million Instagram followers. Yes. Yes. It was, there was a golden,

there was a golden age of like, we all sort of understood that the women were going on there to be influencers, but it didn't feel so, like, it didn't, it hadn't, like, They hadn't pretended they weren't.

Right. It hadn't gone past this tipping point where it felt so cynical. And also, like, now there are just, there are, there has been too much market saturation of, like,

bachelor, girly influencers that it's like we can't be giving all of these women a million followers and a million brand deals. There's just not space. There's not. There's just not space. I'm like, I can only remember so many Hanas. Hannah G. Hanna B. You know, like there's a lot.

Hannah Ann. Hannah Ann. Who's coming to Detroit? Bring her home to me. Oh my. Oh my God. We can't get back in the pilot Pete Woods. I can't do that right now.

You know what Woods? are getting back into, though, the woods of Brittany and Jacks' relationship. This episode is going to be a little bit all over the place because there are simply a lot of things happening that we need to talk about. But Sam, you and I have not really talked on mic or honestly off very much about what is going on with Brittany and Jacks these last couple weeks. Brittany, of course, revealed on their podcast that they have together, but he wasn't on the episode when she revealed that they were spending some time apart. And then since then we have gotten some more info They had the premiere for the Valley the other day

And this was so wild to me Because they were both at this event Both on the same red carpet at the same time Doing press separately So there are all of these videos of them Speaking to different news outlets Like ET was there, people was there And they're essentially

Spilling the tea about each other Near meters away And so we're like watching Brittany speak to a People magazine correspondent. And she's like, well, you know, there's only so much a woman can take. And I just kind of reach bright point. So, you know, we're going to have to see if Jack's can make some changes. And so I did move into an Airbnb, which when she said that, I was like, I'm sorry.

Whatever has gone down has gone down. And Brittany is the one packing a suitcase and going to an Airbnb. I know. Jack? In the month of women's rights? Women's history month, like you're doing this to us. He is such a, listen. Okay, we're to begin with these two.

I think it all really started to go down hill, I mean, pretty early on in their relationship. But I think the song that they danced at their wedding, the Shania Twain song, was really kind of like, like, you. You're still the one. Still the one. Even though you cheated on me next to an old woman, you know, listen. You're still the one I love. Do you think they're doing this for their show? Okay.

So this is the conversation that I've been saying. Also, there was just a, there was a headline that, like, the reason they split was because he wasn't interested in sex and that was another red flag because it's like, Jacks Taylor famously is a little too interested in sex. You know, the streets are talking of they have this show premiering on Bravo, two Tomorrow Night, The Valley. And when the first teaser, and honestly, the first real trailer came out for the show, across the board universally, the only response I was seeing was who asked for this?

Why would anyone watch this? This looks terrible. No thank you. And then the news of Jackson Britney separation comes out. They release another trailer for the season that is much different and much more intriguing. and all of a sudden the show is premiering this week and I feel like there's a fever pitch of anticipation of getting to the bottom of what's going on with Jackson Brittany

in a way that there just was not when this show was announced mere weeks, months ago. And so either way, I mean, I believe that they are in a real rough patch of their relationship. I don't think Britney would like literally lie about the fact that she's staying in an Airbnb be right now because that's bleak. But I do think that the timing of the information that we are getting cannot be a coincidence. Correct. And I also think like the first trailer we got in the way

that this was kind of marketed to us in the beginning was like, we're families and like we're grown up and like look at our lives. Like we're not like the other people. But then like you said, people were responding like, no one wanted this. No one cares. And now it's like, Jackson, Brittany, are on the rocks, which, like, I feel like those two are all, were never great. You know what I mean? Like, this is it? Yeah. They sort of live on the rocks.

They kind of live on the rocks. It's like a pebbly beach. It's a pebbly beach where they live, where they reside. A gravel road. Yeah, like a dirt road. That is where they live. And so I'm really intrigued. The thing that really got me is when Katie brought it up on Vanderpump rule.

And then Lala said, oh, you guys don't even know what's going on in that house. And I'm like, I need to know immediately. Like, Jacks is in the streets, like, slinging his dirty dog dick to whoever will, you know, there is clearly. Yeah. There is clearly some information swarling. And I don't know. I mean. And I feel bad for baby cruise couchy.

Like, I hope he's doing it. Yeah. Protect all the cruises. The thing with this show is that I am not. now, like, they have my attention. And I'm going to watch the show. I'm going to be, you know, sifting through the clues, whatever. But the problem is, I, I, I, I, I, I, we can't forget about the fact that there are

12 people in the cast of this show, nine of whom we don't know or give a fuck about. And what's happening with Brittany and Jacks is interesting. But at the end of the day, this is. an ensemble show with an ensemble cast of total randos, aside from these three Vanderpumperul's cast-offs. And so I, I, like, am, I'm reminding myself with every fiber of my being that it's like, you're going to be disappointed, you're going to be annoyed, you're going to be watching filler scenes of what's her name and what's his name, you know, going grocery shopping or whatever, and that's what this show is still.

And there's another couple on the cast who I think just filed for divorce. horse. Look, look, they're doing their best. They're trying. Right. Like, when the trailer came out, I literally did a rundown of all the names of the people in the cast. I don't remember a single one. I think there's a Jesse maybe.

There's a J name. We're really crushing it with this investigative reporting. But I think, to me, the valley is a big old, like, TBD, put a pin in it. I, you know, we'll watch the premiere. We'll circle back later. And, like, I'm not letting them. I'm not letting them make me forget that this is a show about a bunch of people I don't know. I'm not letting them bamboozle me.

This is going to be no Porsche family matters. I mean, is that the gold standard? Yes. Okay. That was like the most incredible spin-off. Like when Porsche wielded a boom mic at an elderly woman, I was like, why aren't there four more seasons of this? Speaking of Porsche, did you see over the weekend that Nini Leaks posted a photo with one Simon Guobadia? Of course I did.

And I'm like, what is happening? Is that NeNe's way of like trying to get back on the show? This is like start a feud with Portia? The thing with Nini, like, the era that Nini is in right now is so confusing to me. And I feel like it's very like queen without a like kingdom to rule. You know, like she kind of is this like ever present. She's this ever-present, like, looming figure. But unfortunately, and we've seen this with other kind of people in a similar position,

if you aren't on a show and aren't going to be on a show and you're like, you're known as a reality star at a certain point, like, it's really, really difficult bordering on impossible to kind of retain your status and your relevance. And I think it feels like for the last year, too. Nini has been in this phase of like, I don't know what's next, but I'm going to kind of like do these stunts and throw things at the wall a little bit. And I mean, like, people really did care when, when Greg passed away, when her son was really sick. Like, people still care about Nini, but in, in the sense of having these dramas and posting with these people, it's like,

I don't, there isn't. She, to me, is like a mythological creature. Like, at this point. Like, we remember her fondly. Like, I love Nini. She did so much for the show. But she's always just kind of been her own worst enemy and she's always been the one to kind of get in her own way. Like, she can't, like, it's almost like she sabotages herself.

And I wish that she would stop doing that because I would love to have her back on, like, the day that she gets back on Watcher What Happens Lides and sits in that seat next to Andy Cohen, like, all crap. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, frame, and free people. Join the Nordi Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free.

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And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. I hate to put Nini and Vicky in the same sentence because, like, they're not the same. But I think that Vicky, in terms of her relationship to housewives, is entering a similar era where it's been a few years since she left full time. And she obviously had one season as a friend and then went away and then came back again last season as a guest.

But then she got invited on one of the trips. So she, you know, she was around more. And then after last season, she made this public ultimatum of that she was never going to come back to the show again as anything other than a full-time housewife. And by all accounts, Bravo and Evolution's response to that was essentially like, okay, thank you for your time. Here's the Housewives Achievement Award. The wife time. But so then it's like, okay, so is Vicky's choices either to, stick to her guns and never be on TV again, at least not in, you know, the capacity of a housewife.

Or she's going to go back in a year or two with her tail between her legs and be like, yeah, I'll show up to Shannon's party. That's the thing. Like, Vicky and Neney just represent this like older era of Bravo stars, you know, where it's like, it's hard for us to let go. But we also don't really want the new version of what they think we want to. So it's kind of confused. It's almost like too much time has passed. Like I think with Tamara, the reintroduction of Tamara was perfect. Like she, I think had like one or two seasons off and then just came back full full time.

Yeah. And I think when you start to go into that territory of like, you're a friend, you're a guest, you're going to come, you're going to go. It's like it's kind of hard to like care again. For sure. I mean, it's the same. It's the same reason people like Brandy and Camille were never going to get diamond. back on Beverly Hills, because if you'll show up, if you'll show up and get miced up with no contract, you're not giving them incentive to offer you a contract.

Right. They might invite you around a little bit more. They might even agree to pay you, but you're not going to be that kind of like hard to get, you know, person. Oh, you can come back for this dinner to stir things up and we don't have to like pay you full time. Okay. Right. It's the same. Like Denise is now, I think, in that territory on Beverly Hills.

Hill's a little bit where it's like she shows up two or three times a season and that's all they that's all they really care for and I think that's going to be interesting you know there have been the rumors that New York is going to have like some mix of the new and old I think that is like a weird that would be crazy yeah like I it just doesn't sound right but I think yeah with NeNe and Vicky it's like I don't actually think that it would be in the best interest to go back there even if I wish there was a way that it would make sense no like Porsche coming back full time. I welcome that. Because there was such a, like, she didn't do any of the shows. She's not like, I don't know, it just felt, it felt almost like a Tamara. Like, she just kind of took a

little chunk of time off. And then also she's coming back with a great storyline. So I'm thrilled. Yeah. I think that that is really interesting. And we just got a confirmation the other day that Sonia is not returning, which is like the least surprising thing in the world. But I thought it was interesting that Andy just kind of casually confirmed it on his radio show. Like we didn't even get like a real announcement. Like, I mean, obviously Atlanta is in a big rebuilding phase. And I don't think anybody really thought that Sanya was going to be returning. But it is like, I don't know.

It's interesting. We need some new faces appearing, not disappearing, I think, in Atlanta right now. Yeah. Someone asked me the other day, like, what franchise city would you like to see? And I was like, no new ones. I want them to nurture the ones that they have. Like I want us to like rebuild. Well, I think that's, I think that's a great point because, I mean, we were, we were like maybe going to talk about Potomac today and then we just like other stuff came up.

But I think Potomac is right now kind of in that phase where it's like it's not like there's nothing good about it. But it just, it has lost that spark that it had for such a long time. And I mean, there were years where I feel like you and I were both on the train where it was like shouting from the rooftops that everybody needs to watch Potomac. And it's kind of like the hidden gem of Bravo. And I think that they, you know, in the last few seasons, they really did sort of like arrive as, you know, a tier one Bravo show. And, you know, like every show, they go through their growing pains. And this is a season that needs some reworking. But I think, I hope that they are invested enough to put in the work.

I hope so, too. Because that's a thing with Potomac. It's not unwatchable. You know what I mean? Like, it's unremarkable. It's just like, not. nothing really to write home about. I told you this morning, I was like, the only person that's working on that show is

Mia. Yeah. And half of what she says is lies. Right, right. Mia's working because she kind of goes whichever way the wind blows in a way. I love that. And that's, I think Potomac right now has too many sort of like stuck in the mud feuds. And Mia kind of can like float wherever.

But she's not somebody that's going to lead a cast. No. And I always look at the old New York girls as. like such an example of how maybe housewives need to start to act on these shows is like these women were in Bluestone Manor hurling insults at each other, calling each other hoars and sluts and, you know, telling Loua and not to marry Tom and doing this and that and they woke up the next morning like nothing happened. Like they were able to move on and that's what like Potomac I think needs to realize is like

Yeah. You, this isn't, I understand this, you're filming your real life, but also this isn't that. You have to do things for the show. Yeah, I think that actually is something, it makes me think of Salt Lake, too, because it's like those women, in the course of just four seasons, the amount of, like, huge friendship breaks and, like, fights and drama and scandal and whatever, that the kind of core four of them have ultimately sort of just. like flowed through. Is it, does it feel realistic as like a real life friend group? Perhaps not.

But I think we can all agree that that show would have been unwatchable for most of the last few seasons if like Meredith and Lisa really decided to never speak to each other again. Or if Whitney and Lisa really just hated each other so much that they couldn't coexist. It's like, no, we need that kind of like constant

motion a little bit. And that's why Tamara Drudge is the perfect housewife. is because she really does forgive and forget. Like, she's, like, the way that she's able to just get over things and just move on is really fantastic. And I, I can't wait for Orange County. And then also Jersey's coming back. And I love Jersey. Love.

Yeah. I'm excited for Jersey this season. We got-discourse online. Yeah. We just got the trailer last week and, or maybe two. I don't know what is time again. But it's, it's interesting to see a season of Jersey that both Teresa, and Melissa are on, but in the season preview, there's essentially no interaction between them.

Their relationship with each other is seemingly not really going to be a focus this season because they have kind of consciously uncoupled, as I think they sort of have needed to do for a while. And so all of a sudden, it's like, wait, if we've cleared the chess board, that gives us so much room for other things. And I don't know if it's going to be an amazing season. It might be. It might not be. But I'm really excited by the, just like the possibility of it. The possibility. It's endless. Well, and also, Jersey for a few years had really struggled to find anyone new that would sort of stick. And I feel like last season with Jen Fessler, with Rachel Fuda, with Danielle, we finally got like a really promising freshman class from New Jersey.

And so them being able to like drop some more roots to like shuffle things up a little bit. Like that I think is really what that show has needed. And I'm ready to see my boozy mama again. Like I love her. That is Danielle Cabral if you're not. Yeah. You're not familiar. If you're not chronically online, as we might say.

Yeah. My bougie mama. Also I'm excited to see Rachel Fuda versus Jenner. Fessler because I just recently rewatched that last season. And they like had a real connection these two. Like they were really like Rachel loved Jen. And so to see Jen and her fight also Jackie being. Yeah, I can't.

I can't. I'm so disappointed. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. Yeah. I can't with that. To be honest, like I like Jackie a lot. I've, you know, she's been on the show multiple times.

I'm interested to see how it sort of goes down on the season. But from what I've, from what I've intuited and heard and seen, I'm just like, I feel like it's going to be a little bit of a tough watch. Yeah, it's going to be, because the thing is it's, it's just so transparent. Yeah. And that's what, I mean, I've, I've literally talked to Margaret and Melissa about it. And like, yeah, it kind of is like, what other way is there to even look at it? Even if you're not team Melissa and Margaret, like even if you're team Teresa, you should be able to kind of see through that.

Yeah, 100%. And then also this Louis Teresa stuff, I mean. Well, that's like, to me, that's where I go full like galaxy brain. Like that's where, like we're getting lawsuits. We're getting accusations. We're getting financial issues. Like, that's like the, like for us Bravo fans, it's like that's like, that's. That's where we thrive. Yeah, that's where we thrive. Let's talk about the husband. The sixth housewife in Orange County is Jesus,

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Own the dream. Before we get into, we have like a fun and a little, not like a game, but like some like always on sort of themed topics to get into. But I do just want to talk about the ongoing lawsuit situation with Leah McSweeney against Bravo and Ched and Andy. And so Leah, you know, she followed this lawsuit a couple weeks ago. And there's sort of, there were like two main prongs of it. And there's the stuff about her experience on Bravo, which basically is about, you know, she had this negative experience. They were, you know, conspiring to get her to drink and whatever.

And then there was this other sort of seemingly weirdly separate thing of accusing Andy of doing cocaine with his, like, favorite housewives. And Andy denied this. A laundry list of Bravo Lebrides past and present come out in defense of Andy and say, I say I never, I never have done cocaine with Andy Cohen. I've never seen him. I've never. Never in my life would I imagine such a thing, which, you know, you can take those however you, however you, however you want. However you want.

But Leah's camp responded to all of this defense that Andy's been getting. And it feels like they've done a little bit of a 180, because this is a quote. This is a quote. Leah has never claimed to speak for anyone else. She filed this lawsuit based on her own lived experiences. The claims in Leah's lawsuit are about Leah's experiences at Bravo and Leah's experiences only. She's not attempting to tell anyone else's truth, but she won't let anyone deny her truth either. So, okay.

Okay. I am 100% of the mindset that whatever Leah is claiming about her personal, experience and her, you know, she has these substance abuse issues that people knew about. I don't really want to talk about that. To me, like, that is, they can handle that. A lot of it was not really new information in the lawsuit, but yes, she should do what she needs to do, to heal to whatever. But when you're saying this is about her experiences and her experiences only, you are the one who said that Andy was out here. doing coke with housewives.

And Leah isn't saying that that was her experience. She's saying, I know that that happened with other people. So it to me feels like a complete 180 to say, oh, my God, no, no, no, no. We're only talking about us. So whatever you're saying, that's about you. It just feels like they put this thing about Andy in the lawsuit to get it more attention. And then now when they're getting the heat from it, they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Not that.

Yeah. I agree. What are we doing here? What are we doing here? Well, because also, I don't know what's going on with this reality reckoning. Like, it's, they keep trying to do this in different ways. Like, there's the, there was that documentary on Hulu about it. There was the article with Ebony and Leah and Bethany.

You know what I mean? Like, there's just been all of these. things that they've tried to do to, like, get this more attention. And, like, no one seems to care. Yeah. Because it's just like, this is reality television. This is kind of like the, and it, I don't know. It's, it just feels like a nothing burger.

And it just feels like a way for her to get press. If I'm being completely honest, and I don't like saying that. No, I think that, I think that's, the thing is that if people have legitimate issues and negative experiences that they have experienced on these shows, people should pursue whatever they need to pursue to like feel like whole at the end of the day. But that these little like extra nuggets of juicy gossip that are getting attached to it. It just feels like hurtful. Yeah. It's spiteful or something. It feels like an attention play. I've said this already about Leah and Brandy's kind of like side allegations

about Andy. Like it just feels like they know that they need something a little bit like clickier. And I don't know. I mean, I think it's a little bit laughable to be like, well, this was only about her experience when you, that's just not what it was. And so I, at the end of the day, it's like, I don't, I don't have an issue with Leah. I just have an issue with this idea that it's like, oh, what do you mean you thought that we were making accusations? And it's like, because you were. Because you were. And Andy's lawyers responded and are going to sue the fuck out of her.

Right. Like they knew that part wouldn't hold up in court. So now they're kind of retracting it right away when the actual issue was always, did people like force her to drink on set, which isn't an Andy problem. No. That is not an Andy problem. Okay. Well, I think we're on the same page.

We are. Definitely. We'll see what Bethany comes up with next to try and defeat the Bravo monster. Oh, coming from Bethany. Okay, so we're going to switch gears a little bit and have a little bit of fun. So we're always on here. We're in the trenches. We're in the gutters, one might say, of the Bravo sphere.

I wanted to talk about which Bravo Lebrides you think are in the gutter with you. And I don't mean that in a derogatory way, of course. I mean, who on Bravo do you feel like is the most chronically online when it comes to just paying attention to everything, boots on the ground in the trenches? In the Bravo world? Yeah, like who's on Reddit? Who's reading everything? Who's liking tweets? Who's commenting?

Who do you feel like is the most? Who would be the mascot? Okay. I have like three mascots. Okay. I have a couple too. I wonder. Pallone.

Oh. She openly says that she loves Reddit and reads everything on Reddit. Okay. So I think Katie Maloney, Sheena Shea, because she's always responding to haters on Twitter. Yes. Like constantly. And then I want to kind of say Lindsay Hubbard. Yeah.

I think she's very aware of like what people are saying. I think Lindsay is the kind of person who like never has unread DMs. Like they're always. They're always open. They're always open. She's always in there. Sheena, I put down, so like separately, I wanted to talk about who we think has the highest screen time on Bravo. Oh, yeah. And She was one of the ones that I had for that.

Because I feel like she just, like, she, you know, she has like the biggest size iPhone. A terabyte. A terabyte of data. The, like, huge-ass screen that, like, looks stupid in her hands. Like, a case that makes it even bigger. And you know that those big, long nails are just like clack, clack, clack. clacking on that screen like 12 hours a day. And she has a phone charm.

You know what I mean? Like she, her phone is, it's her phone, summer moon, honey Davies, and then Brock. Right. She's busy like blocking people from her daughter's Instagram account many hours of the day. I also, for someone who has the most screen time, I did say Ashley Darby just because she's like the only one watching her TikToks. That's true. That's true.

Like, when you're thinking about which housewives are like spending time on the talk, it's Ashley. Ashley loves a TikTok dance. Like, loves. And I love it for her. I love it for her. I do. I feel like she's fallen off of her TikTok game a little bit, but who can relate? Well, she's busy with GNA.

We won't, we won't get into GNA for now. I don't feel like being mean. But I think the most chronically online Bravo Liberty might be Candice. because Candice is very chronically Every time I open up Twitter There is something fresh from Candice Up at the top of the timeline

And it's not just her Talking about her own show Or responding to a hater It's like some like She wants to know where Kate is She wants to know where Kate is She like didn't like a movie That everybody's talking about

Yeah She's like She's talking about Summerhouse Or like some other Bravo show but she's like a few weeks behind. I think that she is online in the most like normie, relatable way because her whole Twitter feed is like just whatever's happening. She's following the conversation.

She's like, y'all, Michelle Obama looks good. She just will have the most random tweets. And I feel like half the time, if I see a tweet of hers, I don't know what it's about. Like, and that's what I love. a public figure that uses Twitter as a diary. Yeah. Like, she really uses it for what it's for. We don't have enough of them anymore.

Like, we don't have enough celebrities or, I mean, like, Celebrity or, I mean, like, Celebrity, who are, like, out here just, like, posting a status. She's tweeting. She's, like, I'm watching Dune 2. That's what I love. If you go back, if you, like, look up, like, old Bravo Lab tweets from, like, 2010, 2011, it's really fun because you can see people like, Needy League. people like Jacks Taylor, everyone who are just like on Twitter like normal ass people.

And they're like, just ate a sandwich. Or it would be like, I hate having to pump gas. And it's just like, what? Like we will never get back those days of the internet, but sometimes I wish we would. I also, my other housewife that I said has the highest green time is Lisa Hawkestein because I really think she's putting in those hours on Face Tune. The way that she Face Tunes, it's so, it's giving Kate Middle. I'm an amateur photographer experimenting with Photoshop.

Like she... But she would never apologize. Never. She would never admit to FaceTune. Are you kidding? She's like, this is how I look. This is how Jody looks. And I love her for it.

Did you see the photo that Danny Pellegrino posted with Fadra from that direct TV Oscars party where he's like, his eye got like fully warped in Fadra's face tune? Yes. And it's like just one black eye. Yeah. There's one, like, bionic-looking robot eye that just got, like, sucked in a little bit to the, to whatever Fager was doing to herself. Yeah. I love it. I can't get enough.

So the last thing I want to talk about is our own chronically online habits. And specifically around Bravo, I feel like there is a special lane of conspiracy theories, of questions, of deep dives that you really have to be in the trenches a certain amount. to care about or even maybe to know about. And the one that popped to mind for me instantly was the months, nay, years-long saga of Kim Zolsiak's marriage and finances and housing situation. Because I feel like on this podcast over the last like year plus, there have been so many times where I find myself talking about whatever the fuck is going on with Kim. And as it's coming out of my mouth, I'm like, does anybody care? Why am I talking about this?

I shouldn't be talking about this. But, Your Honor, the woman is selling a, like, beat up Chanel handbag on her Instagram story for, like, $10,000. I know. I'm so... That really had me... Had me going for a long time. It's just knowing or wanting to know, like, how they finance their life and their 82 kids. Like, and also, I was...

The thing about Kim is, like, I'm also just fascinated by her and... and her wigs and Croix. Like, it's just such a, they're a fascinating family. She, yeah, she is one of those, like, relics from that early age of housewives, like we were talking about with Nini and Vicky. But her path diverged so long ago that she's kind of, like, we're watching her exist on a different plane than anyone. I mean, I know she's made, like, little appearances on Housewives more recently, but, like,

she has not been on the, like, correct path for, like, a decade. And it's kind of fascinating Like how you sort of Sustain a lifestyle In this economy when like There's no chance that Kim is ever gonna like go get a real job Or not like a real job like You know all jobs are real

But like she's never gonna go like She's never gonna go like Turn in an application at an office. Yes Yeah like that's just not gonna happen Kim could be such a good bank teller Could you imagine her in those nails Counting your money?

The cash like Honestly ASMR on TikTok She could do it and make millions. She'd be like, hey, big papa, let me get your hundreds out of the vault. Counting the coin with her nails. Like, I would watch that. Yeah.

Live stream. Okay. What's your like, what's your chronically online housewives or Bravo like happy place? Oh, this is going to be really random. But I really love to think about the alternate universe that could have been if Rob and Sheena stayed together. Like just the thought of Amber Valletta being the mother of Madison Marie Parks Veletta or the aunt to Madison Marie Parks Valletta. Like I think about that a lot.

That's your Roman Empire. That is like my Roman Empire. Like the thought of Amber Valletta like talking to Sheena is crazy. Like I just think about Sheena and Rob a lot. Like Rob hangs at TV in seven minutes. Like I think about this relationship constantly. It is. And I don't know why.

Sheena had a lot of like false start. in between Shea and Brock, and any of those would have been really interesting to see kind of like play out over a longer period of time. And there's also a chronically online take. It's not my take per se, but it's something I see online all the time. And people when they say it think that they're the first people to ever think this. And it drives me nuts. And it's Jules should have had a second season.

Oh. I think that. People love to think they're being original when it's like X should have had a second season. And it's like anybody that's ever been a single season person on Bravo, we've already had that conversation. Yeah. Like Claudia Jordan. We know. We got it.

We've been there. Like Carlton Jebia. Yes. We would have loved to see her like, hex Kyle again. What I would give to watch Larva pop up on that Mac screensaver again? Like that is something where I feel like the conversation about. one single season housewives who deserved more. It's like there just aren't that many of them to keep having the conversation.

And I need people to realize, like, go back and watch that season with Jules. Guys, she would have been terrible. Yeah. It's kind of like Katie Ross vibes where it was like, we saw her after that and it wasn't great. And I think that I think that Jules was on a similar maybe life trajectory. And I don't think it would have been, I mean, you can Google. But I don't think it would have been like a fun ride necessarily, even if there was like drama happening. It's like not all drama is good drama.

And that's coming from me. Right. There are moments where the camera where we don't need Andy in a camera. No, I don't want, I don't even want an iPhone recording. I don't want any, a ring camera. Like paranormal activity. Yeah. No, thank you.

Oh, my God. Well, Sam, I could talk to you about this stuff for hours. We probably will later But I think this is a good place to leave it for now Thank you so much for coming And I'm so happy that Always On is out there in the world now Everybody should go follow Go throw it some love on the gram

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