Mention It All - Who’s Craving A Sandwich? (RHOD, Summer House)

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

Bari and Dylan begin by recapping the first part of RHOD’s trip to Austin, where Tiffany’s standing in the group rises as D’Andra’s hits the floor. They discuss the true meaning of “bullying,” and why no one can talk shit quietly. Then, they discuss this week’s episode of Summer House, where the love triangle debacle has devolved even further. And while Kyle and Amanda’s relationship seems to have hit its stride, Lindsay’s seems to be in serious trouble. Dylan and Bari also react to the Real Housewives of Miami announcement and rumors that a Winter House spinoff is in the works. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer Who go and check me boo And Barry Rosenfeld I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld's And we made it to Friday Finally it's been a whole week actually know it was a short week. We didn't have work on it. It's still coming down. Literally, I kid you not. At like 10 a.m., I was sitting in my bed working because it's very cold in my apartment this morning.

I look out the window and when I saw it was snowing, I gasped. We like act surprised even though like we know it's going to snow. Like they tell us ahead of time. The thing is though, because we're working from home, I'm not really going anywhere. I don't check the weather that much. I like, yeah, I get my little weather app notification sometimes. It's not like I never check the weather, but I don't feel like I have to be as prepared for it as before when you're commuting and being out and about in the city. So I feel like when it finished snowing all day yesterday, I was like, oh, it's probably just like done.

And then it's supposed to snow into like next week too. But it's always funny. You always want what you can't have regardless of the situation. So in the summer, we're like, oh, I can't wait. Like, I love, like, the winter and the snow. It's so pretty. And then, like, right now we're like, when is this going to fucking end? I can't wait to go to the beach.

Like, ugh. Well, I hear the rooms at the Ritz Carlton and Cancun are not that expensive right now. So maybe we should take a little trip. I'd imagine so. But no, thank you. Okay. We are talking about today, Real House, News of Dallas and Summer House. If you miss our episode yesterday, we talked about the Jersey premiere and the Salt Lake

any reunion. So go check that out. But we moved our Dallas recap to today, just so our episodes would stay a little more balanced. There's just so much going on these days. We got to, we got to tinker with the schedule sometimes. And also, speaking of summer house, so all of this news broke yesterday about Winterhouse, like, but we haven't like found out anything yet. And then like last night, I'm watched up in live, Andy, like kind of dropped like an Easter egg, the kids like to call it, where he asked Amanda and Kyle, who would you want to? to join, like, who would you want to join, like, Summerhouse? And he said, like, Austin and Craig. And it was just like, huh? Because those are rumored to be on the show. Like, what's happening? I don't know how to feel about Winterhouse. I, to be honest, I kind of wish it was like another summer house situation where they cast random people. Me too. I don't know if I'm super excited to see like Kyle and Amanda and Austin and all of these people in a house together. Like that seems a little. unnecessary to me, but I don't know. I mean, I'm not going to pretend I won't watch it. I know,

right? I'm curious if this is like a peacock type of thing or if they're really like intuitive. It's just kind of like a one and done. Speaking of, I don't think yesterday we actually mentioned the exciting news that Real House is of Miami is officially coming back. I know, but like I'm, I knew this already. So I'm not like excited. We knew, but now we know. We knew, but now we know. Like now it's just like a fact that it's happening. It's coming to Peacock, which I think is an interesting move. I think that actually makes a lot of sense because NBC, which owns Bravo, like they've been putting a lot of resources into Peacock. But so far there hasn't really been any big like reality shows that they've debuted on there.

So it makes sense that if they're trying to get their audience excited about it, that Real House is like probably going to be a big. hit for them, I would imagine. Right. They said that Marisol and Lisa, like, might be coming back. I thought it was going to be an entire new cast, but it might not be. And now they're like, Larsa Pippin might be on the show. And I'm like, she was on season one and she was not fun. Okay. I believe I've, I believe I've confessed before that I have not in the past watched all

the seasons of real house size of Miami. I've seen here and there. I, so obviously I will definitely be going back and catching up. I definitely think it's going to be a mix of the cast, but also, even if there was a zero percent chance to Larsa was going to be on the show, I fully believe that she would have her little tabloid friends out there spreading the rumor because no one, like, like fish, fish don't love water as much as Larsa Pippin loves a tabloid moment. Oh, you loved that analogy. I could tell. I can tell. Whitney, we've been talking about analogies a lot this week.

So just analogies on the brain. Let's jump into Dallas. Yeah. Are headed to Lake Austin. Bunch of rock stars. Head into Lake. The I, they just can't not do a theme. Like I feel like.

It cringes. I can't. More than any other show on Bravo. Dallas goes with themes when it's just fully unnecessary. Like you don't need a theme for the bus ride. You're just sitting on a bus. Them, I'm sorry. Them, the bus not being able to go down to the drive.

was karma for them making a theme because they were all wearing like 12 inch lubitons like they couldn't walk and I carry's little lupaton booties that she was wearing were ridiculous. And I just tell you that I had this thought right away when I saw that. There was zero percent chance I would be walking down that driveway because you know when you're like hot and bothered and like in a bad mood and carrying all this stuff and just want to get to your destination and wearing heels, I would take my shoes off or I would have a golf cart of some sort come get me and bring me to the place. It looked very far. They said it was half a mile, which like when you're wearing spike heels, like that's far. That's awful. Yeah, it was one of those

moments where it's like, it's obnoxious to listen to Carrie complain, but also I understand why she was complaining. Yes. She sounded a little bit Ramona-esque when she was like, where are the butlers? But I got it. Like, guys, you're on a house like on a lake in Texas. Like, please don't ask for butlers. Like that's a bit much. I mean, there was staff. Like, It's not like, I agree though. I would have just taken off my shoes. I don't think there were like shards of glass on that private driveway. So this is an interesting trip because we obviously have had some drama between Tiffany and some of the other ladies.

But they seem to all pretty be to be pretty chill with Tiffany. Carrie gives her a nice apology. But the real kind of problem area is Carrie and DeAndra. And we see before they even. before they even get on the buses, Deandra is really having a lot of angst about how things are going to go with Carrie on the trip. I love seeing Jeremy kind of give her some encouragement. First of all, I think Jeremy looks the best he's ever looked. I was kind of like, ooh, like, Papa looks good.

Like, I don't know. I think Jeremy and Deandra both look great this season, actually. Yeah. But I love, I feel like he's a very supportive partner and is like listening to her and, you know, not making her feel dumb for having these issues. I don't know. I like their relationship. Yeah, I do appreciate him. And also, how he's so he reminds me of like a coach. You know what I mean? Like she always calls and he like gives like like pep talks and advice. But he's always just like there in the corner. But he's like a happy energy. That's the word I'm

looking for. He's a happy energy. But we we see the girls like dispersed to their rooms, which I don't understand. I know, Dylan, you really enjoy this house. It's like massive and beautiful. And I wish we got a bigger tour, like more of a tour.

I stocked the house. I found it on Google Maps. And I went to the website of the property. Sadly, no prices are listed. Like, you have to inquire about booking it, which makes,

I mean, it's like a whole estate. No, it's like rude. It's a beautiful home. Well, not like a home, but it's like a beautiful property.

I, yeah, so I think it's interesting they get there, they go out by the water, Carrie is kind of giving this speech about how she's happy everyone is there. And she makes kind of a big deal out of apologizing to Tiffany and kind of clearing the air, which I think was great. I think that was kind of necessary. I think Tiffany actually has a really excellent attitude on this episode because she knows that she's kind of made some missteps. She knows that the pizza party didn't go well.

and we see her talking about how she feels like she's never really had a group of girlfriends, and this is kind of her opportunity for that, and she feels like she's blowing it. And that may be sad because I think Tiffany has a lot of really great qualities, and I think the women overall, like, want to enjoy her, and they just have kind of gotten off on the wrong foot in some of these cases. But I think they're trying to move past that. But even before DeAndra said anything, I was like, oh, this is going to be a problem. that Carrie was saying all this stuff about Tiffany, but not a peep about DeAndra.

Yeah. And the thing is between these two relationship, these, I can't, these two's relationship between Carrie and Deandra. The twos of them. The twos, the two's, the used twos.

Use twos. The Deandra has been vocal about how she feels, obviously. But the fact that the two of them have never sat down and had an actual talk that we've seen recently, it's always just like an arguing match at the dinner table. Carrie's not going to go ahead and apologize to Deandra the way she just did to Tiffany. But the issue is so typical Carrie, she knew what she was doing. She knew she wasn't apologizing to Deandra on the dock.

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So Tiffany and Deandra kind of retire to their room and everybody's getting ready for dinner. They're talking about this situation. And to be honest, I think everything that Deandra was saying to Tiffany was super fair. I think she was speaking from. the heart. I think she really was more expressing her frustrations than shit talking Carrie. But of course, Carrie and Cameron over here, and it becomes this thing

of like, oh, like, you were talking about us in the room and you were talking all this shit about Carrie and oh, we heard you and it's going to be a whole thing. And I just no one whisper in their rooms or close the door. Oh, my God. I know. In any show.

This house is, because this house is so big. But I thought it was a little weird that then Carrie and Cam went to Brandy and Stephanie, and Carrie is actually crying about hearing Deandra say stuff about her. And it's like, DeAndra's not saying anything about how you're like this terrible, awful person who is the scum of the earth. Like, she is frustrated. And I think these two are just like fundamentally not on the same page about their relationship.

And I think that becomes even more clear later in the episode. but it's like Carrie is turning it into this thing of like Deandra's being like this evil woman to me. And it's like you guys just have these issues you need to work through. Nobody is like trying to ruin anybody else's life. Right. Well, this happens with any relationship up until they have a conversation. It's going to keep escalating. So if they had had a conversation prior, Deandra wouldn't have had that conversation.

However, while Deandra was quote unquote talking shit about Carrie, Tiffany was. being a good friend and like to carry because she didn't want to take sides. And the funny thing is that she had no idea that Carrie and Cam were listening on the other side. So even Cam whispered to Carrie. She's like, she's defending you. And like, she was kind of just playing devil's advocate to Deandra. She was like, well, maybe you should like give her a chance. Like hear her out. I was happy in that moment because I think Tiffany sort of unknowingly scored some points with the other women. And I, I mean, I don't need everyone to get along all the time. Certainly that's not how housewives works, but I don't, I don't want Tiffany to kind of have this like lower position in the group just because of some misunderstandings that I think could be pretty easily cleared up. Um, so yeah, then we get to the dinner table and after they play their little game of chicken shit bingo, which I didn't really do anything for me. Um, pretty much immediately we launch into, uh, Carrie versus Deandra and it really, it goes, downhill quickly. Very quick. I, like, I'm sorry to have this. I wouldn't mess with Deandra.

Like, she, she's like, definitely more mature than Carrie, I think. And in this situation, like, oh, now we hear it say situation all the time when we talk about Dallas. Now in this situation. In this situation, I don't want to pick a team, but if I had to, I was team Deandra. Oh, I agree. I, I would. Should she have left? No. but we see this happen all the time. There's no stopping a housewife from leaving the dinner table or walking away. She definitely should have stayed, but I understand her reasoning for getting up and leaving.

Like she kind of like put it right in front of Carrie. And Carrie was just like... The thing... I didn't like the carry did that in front of everyone. That's my biggest thing that I've said about any time we talk about this on any episode. I say, don't like when it happens in front of the whole group. So should there be conversations with witnesses? Yes.

there should absolutely be people. I know witnesses, but like should the conversation have happened at the dinner table? Yes. Should Carrie have been standing and saying like talking about it almost like she's giving a speech in front of everyone? No. Like that's just distasteful. I, okay. I agree with you.

I agree with everything you're saying. I'm mostly on team Deandra more than team Carrie. Carrie, I appreciate that she's bringing it this season. I just don't really enjoy her. I do think that Deandra I'm not I'm rarely a fan of the word bullying being used on Real Housewives

because I think that even when these women try to pick apart what is bullying and what is not they are rarely actually using an accurate definition and I believe that Carrie has done things that are not nice to Deandra

I believe Carrie has done things that maybe like picking on Deandra, but I just think at this point in Housewives, you know, legend, the bullying thing is just so, it's such a loaded term and people react so strongly to it because they think it has this connotation of like being a bad person or whatever. And it's like, just say you weren't nice to me. Say you did stuff to me that I didn't like because then immediately Carrie's like, well, you bullied me. And it's like, okay.

Yeah, we love a comeback of the same. Either of you were like really bullying each other. And even if you were, it's like, I just think that word has so much kind of layered meaning to it that it's not really a productive thing to say because. And no matter like how shitty of a person you are, if somebody says that you were a bully, you're always going to be like, how dare you? Like, I would never be a bully. Like, I'm not a bully. Like maybe you couldn't handle what I said to you, but I'm not a bully. And I think it's just there are because of the way that word kind of.

is received. I think it's rarely the right thing to say in a conversation with someone. I agree that we talked about this yesterday too with the word like attack. Like you can't just throw around the word. However, when Deandra said that, they did use multiple flashback clips

of times that Carrie really was, I would say, picking on her in front of the group. So like she did not throw that word out of, left field. Like it, it kind of like was it, I agree, like we can't just call everyone a bully. But in that case, like she had, there were plenty of examples. So I don't think it was like the worst word to use. But again, you can't just use it. Right. Carrie's going to be like you were bullied. No, DeAndre didn't bully you. So you can't just go back and say that because that's how you felt. You want to know what just occurred to me. I almost feel like Carrie is reminding me a little

bit of Lisa Barlow right now, where it seems like she feels like she is the queen B of the group in a way, and she is kind of on a level above Deandra. But watching the show, it's like, I actually like Deandra more than I like you. And it kind of reminds me of how I feel like in the, in the eyes of the Salt Lake City cast, Lisa is on a level above Heather. And it's like, okay, but like I actually, I mean, I think Lisa is good on the show, but I don't like her more than I like Heather. I don't think she's like a better, cooler person than Heather is. Right. And it's weird that women of this, these ages are actually like fighting for like a queen like title. It's bizarre.

Yeah. And this season, because Carrie is closer, I guess, with Cameron and Brandy and Stephanie, it's almost like she feels like she is kind of in the like top tier of the show. but I think from the sense that I get from most people online, they don't actually like Carrie on the show very much. So it's like, I guess good for her that in terms of her friendships in the cast, she is in a good place. But like that doesn't mean,

I feel like it's kind of like a teddy situation where it's like, okay, just because you're Kyle's best friend doesn't mean that you're like, you know, the head bitch in charge. Ooh,

this is a fun question. Would you rather have, get along and have the whole cast like you and be friends or the whole audience love you and not really get along with the cast. You know, I think that's really tricky because obviously, you know, conflict is good. And in terms of staying on the show, it's good to have like, you know, interesting tension with people. I think in terms of like being in the group, I'd rather be liked by the audience and at least disliked by part of the cast because I think a lot of the time some of the people on these shows are kind of. of like shitty people in certain ways. And so it's like I would rather be confident in what I'm doing. And I feel like that's like what Heather has done so well is she's been so herself. She's been so authentic. She's kept it real. And people are really connecting with that. Whereas like I think Lisa is a great real housewife. But like I would rather hang out with Heather. Also the audience is a lot larger than your cast. I mean, filming might not be super fun. But it's not like have. Like, like, like, like, it's like, like, it. Like,

like somebody like Heather, DeAndre has no friends on the show. Right, exactly. I'm curious to see how the rest of this trip goes. I can't really tell if Deandra like fully left the trip. I guess we'll see. It kind of seems like she did. Yeah, because they ended with her talking to Jeremy again, the coach and telling him what happened. And I think that Stephanie or someone ran after her, but we didn't talk about, hello, we have to talk about once she left.

Tiffany starts crying and comparing this scene to her parents fighting. And I loved one all the women. They went to all the women's confessionals. And they were like, no, sweetie. Like this isn't, this isn't the same. Like it's, it's, you're not involved in this. And it shouldn't be affecting you that way. It's one thing that like, okay, I hate seeing my friends fight.

But for you to get that emotional, it was kind of in front of all the girls. Like, it was very weird. I'm curious if Tiffany was like really drunk or something and kind of just like, because Some of us just let those emotions flow. It was a little dramatic. Carrie bugged out and was like, if you fucking think I'm going and apologizing a danger, like, you're wrong. Like finger in her face like bugging out because I get it.

Carrie doesn't want to be told what to do. And like when she feels a certain way, she'll go talk. But like, whoa, Tiffany's like never had anyone like yell at her like that before. To me, Carrie is just like doing too much. Like like I said, I appreciate that she is, you know, clearly putting in a lot of effort in her second season because on her first season it was kind of like oh she gave us nothing because she's a much larger presence this season which is you know cool for her but I a lot of the time the way she directs her energy I'm kind of like yikes like chill

like please let's segue into our dear friends at summer house because our dear friends at summer house a triangle of love that we I don't think are ever going to get to the bottom of. It's like literally I picture a triangle and people just like running in it. That's what I, that's what I envision. Like, it's so awkward. And I've been dying to say this. Like I really have after watching last night's episode, Dylan, I need to know where you stand.

Like, I'm like more leaning towards team Luke. Okay. I am. I'll tell you why. I think it's, I think there are like, nuances to this because it's not just like two girls are fighting over a guy because like there's this really interesting back and forth with Hannah and Luke obviously and then also Sierra I think is doing a good job of kind of trying to get to the bottom of what really happened with Hannah and

Luke and holding Luke accountable for the fact that he was kind of playing both sides and I actually think in this first scene where Sierra takes Luke outside I think she's doing she's being a really good I mean, they still just met, but she's really sticking up for Hannah and basically being like, look, like, if you were tech, like, what was happening last summer? Like, I don't think that was fair to like either of us. Like, it's not just, I think from the first episode, it kind of felt like it was going to be like Hannah versus Sierra fighting for Luke. And I think it's actually a lot more complicated than that. Yes, I, it's hard because Hannah, is a female with feelings. Duh, we've all been there. And I get that. I get it. But we don't know

what happened during the winter. Like Luke has kept his cool, obviously until the end, Luke has kept his cool and like had conversation and called her out and was like, Hannah, we were on the same page. Like, we were friends. And I feel like, I don't know if I thought he was leading, if I think he was leading her on or if they were just actually talking as friends. Do I have guy friends like that that I talk to every single day? No, because if you're not like sleeping with them, it's kind of like a, I don't know, I know some people have guy friends, but I talk to my girlfriends more about everyday stuff as opposed to the way Hannah and Luke talk, which is, I think is why Hannah looked at it as if they were dating. And yeah, I mean, it's very

difficult. Like she keeps bringing up that she gave him head, which I'm like, Hannah, stop bringing that up. Like, it's, it's a lot. But I don't, I feel like, he, he ejaculated in her mouth. Twice. Like, I feel bad because, like, you can't, you can't sometimes control your feelings or emotions, but I do feel that Luke was like being, like, saying whatever, he was like not lying. He was, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I think what you're saying about the fact that we're never going to to the bottom of it is exactly right because clearly they were not on the same, you know, whatever, whatever happened happened. But looking back on it now, however many months later, clearly they have different

versions of events, specifically this conversation that they had when Hannah was in Minnesota. He basically says that he friends owned her and that that was that. And that's kind of his idea of what happened. And she sees it more as like, I mean, we said, we weren't going to like label anything, but that doesn't mean like we're never going to hook up or have feelings or whatever. And I just think it's like, yeah, we're never going to get a more, there's not going to be a more concise answer than that. Like maybe one of them is correct and

one of them is wrong. But also I think it's just as if not more likely that a mix of those two things happened. And especially when it's a complicated relationship situation with a lot of feelings and a lot of emotions. Like people, people take away from a conversation what they want to and what they need to in that moment. And the thing is, they,

I think it was 10 months, they said, the two of them were not, are not and were not virgins. So the fact that for 10 months, you actually did label it and called your, and said you were dating and didn't sleep together. I'm sorry.

That to me is just like a pen pal or a long. a long distance relationship because I would be out. There is no way that got like you're telling me neither of them slept with anyone that entire time. And if they did, they're not dating. I'm barely dating someone for 10 hours before I sleep with them. I mean,

come on. You got to take it for a. I mean, to be, to be honest, I'm sleeping with someone before I'm dating them. Yeah, but also it's weird because they did other things.

So it's not like they judge. were really celibate and like didn't do like at like it's just I don't know we got it we got to we got to talk about this anymore um but yeah I I do the overall Sierra did a good job of kind of um not trying to to really like a good job at everything like just laying the situation worse laying there we got to talk about Lindsay and Stephen aka Stravi uh because oh my god so this this night that we pick up on it's like 10 p.m. And he goes back down to the room to work. And Lindsay goes in and I got to say, I thought this might be the first murder we ever

witnessed on a Bravo show because she wouldn't do it on camera. I got, yeah, she would put a blanket over the camera. So it wouldn't be a snuff film. But she, we get the iconic quote that was teased in the season trailer of how many sandwiches have you made for me and. Which is like. not like wasn't like good for me because we already saw this on vanderpump rule so it like wasn't like to be honest like I wasn't like I didn't like that because it wasn't like oh my god that's so

funny we saw it already with Jackson Brittany like the exact same conversation if you remember yeah I mean I think it's it's it's different a little bit because in this come in this context like he came to the house like it's a it's not just their everyday life and I think when they have their conversation later in the episode. I think it's really interesting to hear Lindsay say how, you know, you know my love language is quality time. And like other than when we're in bed at night, like, you haven't made any effort to spend that quality time with me. And that, you know, that's what I need out of this relationship. And you're not giving it to me. So if what you need out of this relationship is sandwiches and me bringing you a drink, like, why am I

giving that to you if you're not giving me what I need. Totally. But the way they're editing this maybe is is showing a little bit of a different side because like it's happening during the day and like he's working, which is totally understandable. The 10 p.m. part was was the, was the, kicker there because it's one, that's really showing that you don't want to be there. It's one thing to go and like, I'm going to lay down. I want to watch a movie. But like you went to go back on your computer to work like at. 10 p.m. That's like, count, that's him saying, like, count me out of this.

Like, I don't want anything to do with this. And then, I mean, he says, like, I came to this house to support you and, like, to be, I mean, I think without saying it directly, he's saying, like, I did the show because it was best for you to have me here on the show. Yeah. And, I mean, that's a little bit cringe in terms of, like, a long-term relationship context. but I think it's interesting that Danielle is, who is, I mean, she's the closest one with Lindsay in the house for sure. She is really not on board with this relationship. And as she hears them

yelling at each other, she's like, Lindsay like wants to move in with this man. And if she does that, like, she's going to marry him and have kids. And like, Danielle clearly sees from a mile away that this is not headed anywhere good. And I, I think it's interesting to see that she's really like worried for her friend to make a long-term mistake. Totally. I, you can tell. I think Paige was the one that said it too. Like, we don't want to say Lindsay's settling in this situation, but like she want,

because she wants that end goal of engagement babies, whatever, she wants Steven to be it. And she doesn't want to start over again to, to, if they break up. But like, you have to if it's not going to work out. And also from more than a mile away, like from my couch,

I can see that this isn't working either. because he has like, I'm sorry, no offense to Stephen, but like he has like no personality. So it's like, there was like nothing there. I'm like, hello. It's interesting. Like, I know it's only been a few episodes. I know it's only been a few episodes and we've spent a lot of time with the Luke situation. Like I'm not saying we, you know, that he is just like a piece of cardboard, but we really

haven't gotten any, any kind of like fun content of him yet. And I don't think it's coming. either. I know it can take a minute whatever, but yeah, it is interesting that they haven't really made any effort if that footage exists to show it to us. And the girls like, we're counting. They're like, how long do you think like it takes? It'll take. And I'm like how long until he's out of the house. And I'm like, oh, that's never a good luck for people to do that behind your back, like about your relationship. Like, it's awkward, but it's true. And it was, it was kind of amazing when Amanda was like, damn, I'm glad nobody was ever taking bets on my relationship. And they're like,

oh, girl, please. Allegedly. I love that Kyle and Amanda actually seem like they're in a really good place this summer. Them on Watchtrapins Live last night was I had a smile on my feet. It was like, yeah, I loved watching them. I think they've come a really long way. I do. I mean, I think we have to be real about the fact that when you're starting a business with your partner, that is like super stressful. It can be a make or break thing for a lot of couples. And now that lover boy, it seems to be doing great, I, it, they probably have less stress and anxiety and more time to actually like enjoy each other's company. I think that probably makes a huge difference. I've still never tried lover boy. I've tried the, the classic flavors. I haven't tried the sprits,

like, cocktail ones. The classic ones are good. They're like, it's a, it's a hard tea. Like, there's an Arnold Palmer flavor one, like, I think like a peach, hibiscus. They're good. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's kind of like a, it's like a similar drinking experience to a white claw, but like more of like a flavored. More fun. Like a juice kind of, yeah.

Yeah. That's my official. Dylan is taking Carl's role as sales for a lover boy. Carilito. Speaking of Carl, the one, the funniest, moment of this episode was when they got like delivery Mexican food and Lindsay and Stravi are are outside having their big argument and Carl just like peeks his head over the balcony and it's like hey guys uh hi like just so you know like your food is getting cold and Lindsay's like thanks Carlito

and Carl goes back inside and it's like Lindsay's smiling I think it's going well okay but that right there for them for Lindsay to have that smile in her face when she sees Carl and then goes back and is miserable and talking like that's a sign right there it's like no no no get up and go eat your food uh the one other thing i i just want to point out is that page um is clearly more and more miserable by the day in her relationship with perry first of all um have to point out that they call each other puppy on the phone which is just just not good bad news and he wants to go to miami for six months together and she is like terrified, which is just red flag.

We know now that Perry is in Miami and pages in New York. And we know they're not dating anyway. But sorry, we keep going on one another thing. Raise your hand if Sierra's room gives you anxiety to the max. Why is her bed full of everything she owns at all times? And then she goes to sleep on it. I need to go back because I missed that. And then somebody, oh my God, no.

Somebody DM'd me like, doesn't Sierra? bed stress you out and I like ignored it. You didn't notice? No, I, okay, to be honest, like, I watched, I did like a, I did like a two hour clubhouse room last night and then I was watching Summer House kind of late because I had to eat. So like, I was watching enough where I could take notes on what was happening. But I wasn't like, I wasn't like really like focusing. I also have OCD.

So of course I would notice that. But you'll notice it. That would stress me out too. Now when you go back. I don't even like having stuff on my bed like during the day. Like sometimes I have like. If I have like my iPad and my water bottle and stuff, it like stresses me out. It's a lot.

There's a lot. There's a lot. I'll go back. Somebody was like, somebody was like, why haven't you made a meme of Sierra's bed? I thought you were too, to be honest.

I'm like, it's 11 p.m. Leave me alone. No, if, if you guys follow, uh, probably batches on Instagram,

which you totally should. Um, I love getting DMs and stuff from you guys. It's fun to interact. And also, um, you guys always like see stuff and point things out. sometimes there's just truly too much going on.

The amount of DMs I've gotten about Lisa Barlow's spray tan hands. I know. I know. I haven't done questions in a while. Maybe I'll do questions next week and pop on so people can see my face too because it's great. Fun times. Fun times. In the meantime, don't forget to rate, review, subscribe.

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