Mention It All - Who’s Flopping Hardest At Their Reunion? (RHOBH, RHOM)

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

Double reunion day is upon us, and Dylan has lots of thoughts, but first he shares the latest legal news on the Erika Jayne front—will we finally be getting courtroom couture? Then, he reacts to RHOBH, where Kyle’s insistence on keeping things private is starting to creep further into the show. Later, on the Miami front, Larsa has main character energy, but is that always a good thing? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. It's Thursday. You already know what it is. We're back. Got lots to talk about. Double reunions. Real hostas of Beverly Hills.

Real hostos of Miami. There's a lot going on. There's outfits. There's drama. There's yelling. There's crying. There's so much and more. First, though, there is an interesting update in the continued legal saga of Erica Jane.

Much as she would like us all to think that her legal situation is over and done with, and she has been declared victorious. Things are still working their way through the court system, and she was actually dealt up a pretty interesting setback this week because the lawsuit that has been filed against her and others by Chris Pesila, who if you, if you have followed this at all or not, whatever, Chris Pesila is one of the guys who runs Marco Marco, the design designer that had made a lot of Erica's costumes and things. And basically there was this lawsuit alleging that Erica and American Express had accused him of

stealing this money and overcharging her for things. and he ended up in jail for a while. It's a whole thing. I got into this a lot more a couple weeks ago on the pop crime podcast with my good friend Kiki, Monique, when the Housewife and the Hustler documentary Part 2 came out. So if you want more background on that story, go listen to that podcast episode. It's a little more of a deep dive. Kiki is truly just like the, she knows everything about everything when it comes to this kind of stuff.

But what happened this week is that there was a ruling. in a federal court where Erica's motion to dismiss the lawsuit was denied. So basically, there's the thing called anti-SLAP and it's strategic lawsuits against public participants. Basically, if you're a public figure and people are filing frivolous lawsuits against you, you can basically contest that and try to have them dismissed. So that's what Erica tried to do. and the court ruled this week that this is not one of those lawsuits and that there are grounds for this case. So that means that this is going to trial.

We're getting a trial. We've had a lot of hearings. We've had a lot of motions. We've had a lot of filings. We have not seen Ms. Erica Jane takes the stand. It's about to be Chicago the musical for real. I don't know if we're going to get to see this on next season of Braille House of Beverly Hills, because Erica seems pretty committed to the housewives reality of her having won all of her legal battles.

But this is not over for her. And this is something that is pretty separate from the issues that have gone on with Tom in terms of bankruptcy and, you know, the fraud and the victims and all of that. This is kind of a little bit of a different lane. And so I think it's very interesting that this is going to go to trial. and we will keep an eye on that because I don't know if we're going to get like courtroom looks or maybe like a courtroom sketch. Are there going to be, is there going to be a sketch artist doing like portraits of Erica Jane in court? That would be one of the best days on the internet if we get like a courtroom artist doing.

Do you remember when there was that trial a couple of years ago where it was black China and the Kardashians suing each other? and we were getting these exquisite courtroom artwork pieces of Black China and Chris Jenner and Kim Kardashian, like just looking like cartoon villains in the courtroom. That we need, we need Erica Jane in like full reunion glam hitting up the trial and we need sketches of it or something. I don't know, but can there be cameras? Actually, no. I don't want sketches because I want there to be cameras.

We can have both. I don't know how that works. But let's talk about the Beverly Hills reunion because it did sort of, you know, it ties in nicely to what's going on with Erica. Even though Erica's legal battle, not really a topic of conversation with reunion. She's feeling the best she's felt in a few years. She gives Andy a little bit of a hard time for his skewering of her in the past, you know, his words, putting her on the rotisserie and holding her up to the flame.

I mean, look. Andy's job is to create an entertaining television show and, you know, maybe he crosses a line every now and then maybe he allegedly does a little cocaine with some of the housewives. But that's not what we're here to talk about today. This reunion starts before we even get out to the stage, there is this drama happening over a text that Kyle has sent to Dorete the day before the reunion taping, basically saying, hey girl, I know that things have been a little bit weird between us. I'm paraphrasing. But nobody else knows that. So why do they need to know that?

So maybe we could just not bring it up at the reunion. And then we can, I would love to meet with you after the reunion. And, you know, just hash everything out and get back to a good place. But maybe we could just like keep it on the back burner for tomorrow. Nobody needs to know. Marie Richards. I don't know her middle name. Kyle.

I'm sorry. Okay. So there has been now a whole conversation, a whole debate. People are weighing in about whether it was fucked up of Doreet to share this text with production and on the show and she's showing it to Erica. And it comes up out on the stage. I care a lot less about Doreet passing along a text to production, which happens all the time on these shows. I care a lot less about that than the fact that Kyle clearly didn't want this to be on the show. I get that there are some personal things that are fine to be kept off the show.

You know, if you're dealing with a health issue that you don't feel ready to share, or you're going through something legally that it's not wise for you to talk about, I get it. That happens all the time. you're saying that your friendship with Dorit is essentially only existing on the show. Kyle is out here talking about how many times have we gone to lunch when there's not a camera. Count on one hand. We've only gone on one trip together.

It was blown out of proportion. X, Y, Z. So if this friendship only really exists in the context of the show, according to you, then what grounds do you have for not sharing the issue in that friendship on the show? if you don't want to talk about it on the show and you aren't in a good place with her, then just don't be friends anymore. But the idea that Kyle was so concerned that this would come up and make her look bad, I don't even think it really does make Kyle look bad.

And that's the weird thing with this, is that I think this first part of the Beverly Hills reunion, Doreet kind of looks terrible. She's not handling her situation with Garcell well. She's not handling her, the thing. she said about Crystal. Like there are numerous situations where she kind of comes across like somebody who can't own up to things that she said, can't just apologize and keep it moving, can't keep her mouth shut when it would behoove her to.

But the situation with Kyle, I'm like, I don't have an issue with Derich sharing that text. I opened up TikTok the other day. Bethany's on there saying that it's like unethical of production to show up a private text between two cast members. I'm like, Bethany, put a sock in it. Be for real. If you want to talk about production conditions on these shows and that people aren't being safe and that mental health isn't being taken into account, fine.

That is, I think, is a noble cause. I don't know if I don't know if I agree with the way she's going about it. But that's like a real thing, a real problem to solve. Doreet sharing a text from Kyle when they've both been on this show for years, they both know how this works. We can't be up in arms about this. We just find something better to care about. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now.

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years since she's been off the show. And she says that Doreet sharing this text from Kyle feels like a Hail Mary for her to secure her spot on the show for another season, basically that it's thirsty, it's desperate, it's, you know, transparent, X, Y, Z. And first of all, our friend Gibson-John's pointed out on Twitter, who on Housewives isn't trying to secure their spot for next season? That's kind of the whole game. There are some years where you might have to work a little harder.

There are some years where you might have to get a little more creative to pull a trick out up the sleeve to, you know, do something new. But every, I mean, every season, everybody is working to maintain their role in the group. So, first of all, let's not shade people for showing up and trying to do their jobs. But second of all, it's not a desperate thing to share that you have been going through something with another cast member when we come to the reunion to talk through what we've been going through with the other cast members. And also, Kyle's like nobody knows this is happening. Whereas in the season finale,

last week in their little title cards at the end, they told us that Doreet and Kyle haven't spoken in weeks, if not months. We already knew that things weren't great between them. We watched the show this season. Nobody was under the impression that Kyle and Doret had this like hunky dory ho-hum friendship that was just chugging right along with no kind of bumps in the road. So I think that it, I think that with Kyle, we're already not getting everything that we want to get about her situation with Maricio or, quite frankly, her situation with Morgan. We, you know, Andy jokes with her that Maricio is going to be at the reunion and she flips out before he says he's getting. To be honest, why isn't Maricio there? I would like to hear from him.

I certainly don't feel like I got answers to all my questions during the season. and honestly bring Morgan Wade to the reunion. You're bringing her to watch what happens live and like grabbing her ass backstage and then pretending that nothing is happening. Like, bring her out. I would have been fine with Kyle having more or less a whole segment of the reunion

to focus on, okay, let's get to the bottom. I wish sometimes that these producers would be, we need like a Mori Jerry Springer mindset sometimes. And maybe that's not truly what we need when we're talking about, like, toxicity and a healthy environment on these shows. I don't know what happened backstage at Jerry Springer for all those years, but I imagine it could get a little chaotic. But I kind of would love, I know we're getting the Kathy surprise. I hope that that's going to be something. But I would kind of live if they were like, okay, we have another.

segment, let's bring out Maricio and Morgan. Like, would you die? I would die. And I think Kyle would die in a different way. But like, why are we giving, why are we giving this like soft kid gloves treatment to something that I, I feel like the fans are missing out? And the fact that Kyle then, not only did she, does she not really want to talk about what's happening from Maricio and with Morgan, but she also doesn't want to talk about what's happening with Doreet? It's like, what do you think you're here for? Just because you're the OG and you've been on the show all 13 seasons doesn't mean that you get to just like pick and choose your favorite two topics to cover at the reunion and that, okay, I'll chime in a little bit here and a little bit there,

but I don't want to talk about this, this, this. It's not your show. And, I mean, respectfully, if Kyle doesn't want to talk about any of this stuff and she's going to sort of reveal, I mean, it feels kind of like a fourth wall break to be like, well, Doreet and I only ever get lunch on camera. If you don't want to pretend to be invested in these friendships, then like, why are you still on the show? because watching the reunion, I felt like we got performances from Crystal especially, but also from Erica, from Garcel, from Sutton. I feel like everybody else in the group besides maybe Derreet and Kyle, and I mean, I'm not living for Anna Marie, let's just say. There are people that are fully bought into the reality of the show,

at least enough to feel like you're not actively questioning kind of what's real and what's not when they're talking. And that's the thing. I felt like this reunion, Crystal in particular, did a really great job of sort of stepping up, holding her ground, and really kind of holding people's feet to the fire. I mean, her stuff with Anna Marie, her stuff with Doreet, like that, it felt like she was kind of ascending to a more prominent place in the ground. group that she, for a long time, obviously people have wanted a little bit more from her, both within the group people have wanted more from her, watching the show, people have wanted more from her. And I think that this season was a step in the right direction. And I think that this reunion,

it really feels like she is kind of coming into her own as a standalone presence on this show. And I think that if you're looking at the cast for next season, I think this is a, really weak performance from Doreet, like I've just been talking about. I think Kyle is really picking and choosing what she wants to share in a way that is frustrating. I think Anna Marie, I guess I appreciate she's trying. I think, really, I mean, I know I've been super negative on her over the course of the season, but she's giving us, she's not giving us nothing. And I I appreciate that. I don't know that it's quite enough. And you know what? The interesting thing with Anna Marie, at the beginning of this reunion, Andy acknowledged that she recently lost her mother. She had lung cancer and Anna Marie got very emotional talking about this. Erica brought up that she was dealing with this while filming for the show. I think her mom got sick last year. And that Anna Marie said she, you know, chose not to share. and wanted to compartmentalize. And I get that. I think that that is a valid choice to make. I mean,

when I'm talking about things that you do and don't decide to share on the show, I think if you're just joining us for the first time and your mom is potentially dying, I get that that feels like something that you want to keep private. But I couldn't help but have the feeling that I think if we had had a little bit more of a 360 picture of Anna Marie's life, over the course of the season, I think the reception to her would have been different. And it felt like she came in so hot coming for Sutton and talking about her esophagus over and over again with kind of no back end of who she was as a person. And I'm not saying she would have been a fan favorite necessarily if we knew that she,

that her mom was sick because, I mean, first of all, that's a little bit gross. but just I think it would have allowed us to feel like she was a fully formed presence within the show rather than just this kind of filling this role within the group that I don't know if it really needed to be filled. So yeah, I mean, honestly, I think Anna Marie had not the worst performance on this part of the reunion, but at the same time, I think that she is, she does a really bad job at, communicating what she means. And maybe she doesn't know what she means. Maybe she kind of has lost the plot to a point where there is no right way to explain it.

But when she and Crystal are going back and forth about the difference between an anesthesiologist and a nurse anesthetist, and she tries to take us back to the civil war when she's like, actually, if you go back to the 1860s, Nurse anesthetists were the first ones to do the field of anesthesia. And so, you know, there's a lot of whatever. It's like, you have misunderstood the issue here because at the end of the day. She keeps bringing up the politics between anesthesiologist and nurse the anesthetist and, you know, there's a different thing. And it's always been this way and blah, blah, blah, blah. That's not why this became an issue.

And when she gives Sutton an apology for talking about her esophagus and X, Y, Soutten's like, thanks for the apology, but that's not why I was upset. I was upset because you were talking about me behind my back. She was basically calling her a liar when it came to her health situation. After she had, you know, established that this wasn't a, you know, good conversation to be having, she kept bringing it up. And the thing with Crystal saying that Sutton has an eating disorder, she never really is able to fully just own what she said.

Even months later at the reunion when we've all seen it play out on TV, she kind of, she flips it a little bit and says to Sutton, like, I don't think you have an eating disorder. Crystal doesn't think you have an eating disorder. Nobody does. I promise. It's like, okay, cool. That's great that you are saying that,

it's not true, but that's different from apologizing for saying it before. And it feels like Anna Marie kind of has this like warped view of like, if I sort of correct to the record of something I said before, then that's enough and we just move on. Whereas like the way that Housewives kind of works is like even if something feels like it's been beat to death and you are sick of talking about it, you have to apologize for it to then be able to move on and argue about the next thing and then apologize for that and so on and so forth until the end of time. We're always in a cycle of arguing and then apologizing.

And I think Anna Marie, if she stays for another season, which like, she's going to have to get a little bit better at the like, I hear you. You're right. I'm sorry. let's move on next week. I'll do something else. And then we'll fight about that. Which, like, speaking of, Doreet, good God.

She, I... Dereet just feels like she is so self-serious at this reunion and just kind of humorless in a way that makes it really hard to palette the way that she has dealt with some of these situations in the group. And the way that she says things and doesn't kind of... to think about them. And I understand, you know, she falls back on the like, oh, well, that wasn't my intention. You know that I don't blah, blah, blah. And it's like, right. But we're at the reunion. People are explaining to you the issues with what you're saying. And you've got to just like, like Andy tells her in these situations, sometimes you just have to say less and move on. And Doree just, she can't really do that. And, you know, the whole child.

bride conversation with Crystal, the education thing. There's no real, like, there's no way for Doreet to really, like, be correct in that situation. So, you know, I know that there are people who are like, oh, we're making everything about race and Crystal and Garcel and need to do whatever. And it's like, but that's not the issue. The issue is that when something is pointed out to Doreet like that, she's incapable of just accepting it, apologizing, and moving on. And, you know, if that's, if that's kind of the, the log line from this reunion, then yeah, maybe, maybe it's time for Doree to be moving on to something else. Maybe she can go to London with Pekke, because he's been there for like six months, but I don't know about that. Good sleep is everything. That's why Ali's science

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Larsa's tequila. And it didn't show up in time. And I just thought that was real interesting. Because a couple weeks ago, I can't remember if I talked about this on the podcast or if I just posted about it on Instagram and Twitter. I did a little deep dive when they were in Mexico at the tequila tasting and Larsa has given out those diamond necklaces of her ugly-ass tequila logo. This tequila brand does not exist. There's no photos of a bottle anywhere online. There's no place to purchase. Larsa doesn't post about it on her social medias.

There's no Instagram for the company. There's like one of the investors has a page for it on his website that like doesn't link out to anywhere. This tequila as far as I can figure out has never been like released. And so when Andy's like, we were planning to drink the tequila this morning, but the tequila has not arrived. I'm like, yeah, it hasn't arrived because it doesn't exist. And Larsa's like, it'll be here in a minute. Of course, we never hear about that again. They go to lunch, they come back. There's no tequila. This is my, this is my conspiracy theory. This is my, this is my, where is Kate

Middleton? Where is Larsa Pippin's tequila? If we don't see a bottle of this tequila by the end of the reunion, it's over. It's over. Aluho. Aluha. Is that? I think that's what it's called. No, it's not happening. We're not getting the tequila. Baby, there's no plane. But they've been looking at diamonds. You know, she's really excited.

She's going to stop talking about her sex life because it makes her family uncomfortable. It's like, okay, great. I did really laugh at when Lisa starts, like, piping up to defend Larsa's sex life or whatever. And Gertie's just over on the other couch being like, okay, mascot. go off mascot. Uh-huh, mascot. Calling Lisa mascot when she's defending Larsa is so funny to me. Because it's just, you know that it is going to get under Lisa's skin like nothing else.

And we haven't even really gotten into this part. We don't get very much Lisa at all. Clearly that's being saved for a little bit later in the reunion. But I have a feeling that when we get there, it's not going to be the easiest. time for Lisa. I think she's going to have some feelings by the end of this reunion. But we got a lot of Larsa in this part. Larsa, I do feel like she kind of has the main character energy of this cast in a way. There's a lot of people, a lot of big personalities, but so many of the disagreements and the issues and the conflicts and the conversations sort of hinge on

Larsa, whether it's her issues with Kiki and her saying she was hurt by seeing Kiki's confessionals and that she was a horrible friend and, you know, Kiki of course, says that Larsa was a horrible friend and, you know, they're talking about that. And then Gertie kind of pops in to say that the real issue with Larsa is that she has a hard face, but she's very sensitive and that She plays checkers and every little thing has a consequence and she can dish it out but she can't take it, which I think Marisol points out that pretty much everyone in this group falls under the category of can dish it out but can't take it. But then it comes back to, you know, there's stuff with Larsa and Julia because, you know, Marcus has a comparison. And then, you know, Adriana has stuff.

And then Alexia and Larsa are fighting at the end. There's a lot of Larsa. And I think that Larsa is somebody who, I don't know if this is sort of on accident or if she is kind of a low-key genius. But she's really good at keeping the conversation on her, whether it's sort of like directly about her or she's involved somehow or I don't know. It's kind of fascinating to watch. Kiki and Larsa are able to sort of, I think they get to a. an okay point. Kiki apologizes for saying some mean things. Larsa says that their problem is surfacy and not real issues. So I think they're going to move forward. That's maybe the only real

resolution we get in this part of the reunion. I also just had to laugh when the Michael Jordan video comes up. And first of all, Julia compares it to her dating Chris Everett's son, which I just L.O.L. And Larsa, Larsa, Larsa's whole explanation for why her dating Michael Jordan's son isn't weird, is her just being like, well, you know, the basketball world is really small, Andy. Like, you know, I, you know, my kids play basketball and I'm spending time around, you know, coaches and players and managers. And so, you know, it's, it's just like a small world. It's like, I mean, yeah. Okay. Like, basketball, I feel like is a small world in the sense that, There aren't that many basketball players when you compare to, like, the global population.

But it's not a small world in the sense that, like, the only person I could end up dating is my ex-husband's former co-worker's son. Like, be for real. Also, you don't have to date somebody who plays basketball or played basketball or, I don't know. But they're selling their condo. You know, they need a bigger house because Marcus has a lot of Jordans. and she has a lot of clothes, and I wish them all the best. The Todd and Alexia stuff is, it's a little weird, though, because I feel like the Todd and Alexia storyline on this season was a little bit of a false start

because the season started out. The first group event of the season was Alexia's New Horizons party that Todd chose not to go to, allegedly because Adriana was going to be there, but then really because people were going to be talking about this apology video, and he just like, I don't know, he like didn't want to go. And it felt like at the beginning of the season, it really seemed like there was something that we were going to uncover in a way about Alexia and Todd's relationship.

Adriana was digging. He said that Todd made a comment about how they've got, you know, marital issues or whatever. There was this finance stuff that seemed to be peeking to the surface when Anna came to the Mother's Day fiasco brunch. But then toward the end of the season, we kind of stopped talking about Alexia's marriage. There wasn't really ever any big reveal.

There was the whole thing with them moving, like the idea that maybe something was weird with that. Alexia brings her lease to the reunion to, I don't know, proof that she pays her rent every month. Like, I don't know really what's going on there. But all that to say that now we're talking. talking about Todd and Alexia at the reunion, and it still really feels like I don't know what exactly we're talking about. Like, Adriana just wants to talk about Todd and Alexia

because she wants to talk about Todd and Alexia, but it doesn't really feel like we're going to arrive anywhere. You know, they're still talking about why he didn't come to this party at the beginning of the season and why Adriana was invited. And she's like, well, I was invited because it's your job to invite everyone to the party. The humerus. the hubris, the hubris, the hubris. I love it. I do love Adriana, but I think at a reunion, she just, she's at a 12 out of 10 the entire time and standing up and delivering that poem about being stars, it's like, it's a little much. And he's like, what's going on? He's like, that was a lovely poem. Why? Like the letter for the letter last season,

from Marisol's liver asking for help. Look, that was stunty, but it was also pretty funny. The poem, I'm just like, girl, we have other stuff to cover. There are nine of you. All nine of them are out there the whole time. I did love that detail, by the way. All the friends of are out there from the beginning. We don't get like a weird, like, okay, now Kiki's here.

They're all there, which I love. But that means that we don't have time for this poem. And then there's this whole conversation about who's a liar and everybody's a liar. And, you know, Larsa kind of gets pinned as the liar. Gertie says that Larsa lied about her, you know, not knowing that she wasn't supposed to share the information about her cancer, which I think is pretty cut and dry, that Larsa did in fact lie about that, even if she wants to say that it was, you know, a misunderstanding or something. But then there's this weird story that Nicole brings up that she says Larsa called Alexi. after her wedding and threatened that if Alexia wasn't a good friend, it didn't have her back in her fight with Lisa, that she would share some story or there was some story bubbling around about people doing drugs at Alexia's wedding.

And this feels like it comes so out of left field. I don't know if this was in the tabloids or something that I missed, but I was like, wait, wait, sorry, what? Like we're talking about Alexia's wedding from like two years ago that people were like Maybe I don't I don't know like were people doing coke in your bath like what are we talking about? Also like not to be like yay everybody do drugs on the podcast this week but similar to what I was talking about with Andy Cohen. It's like kind of who cares? I just I don't know. It's very weird and you know Larsa and Alexia don't seem to really want to get.

that far into it, but then they go backstage during lunch and they're talking again and they start rehashing it. And it's just this whole thing. And I guess I'm curious to see kind of like where it goes next episode because to me, it's one of these things where I'm like, okay, first of all, this came out of left field. Second of all, I don't really, I guess Larsa's mad at the allegation that she threatens people and that she, you know, makes these demands of her friends. But it's just like, okay, I guess. I mean, I think they all are, everybody's like a little bit shady. You're on Housewives.

And this is not a House. This is not a Housewives franchise where people are just kind of there to be glamorous and not really going to throw punches. Like, it's real Housewives of Miami. Everybody, everybody's got their hands in the pot. everybody's working hard. And I'm so thankful, but also I'm like, what are we doing?

I have a lot of unresolved questions. I mean, I guess part two is like literally tonight. I can't be track. We got Summer House. We've got traitors. So much happening. Andy and Candice and Wendy are on the Kelly Clarkson show today, which I went to the taping for last week.

So that's fun if you're, if you somehow don't have enough stuff to watch. But I don't know. There's a lot. There's a lot happening. But we'll be back next week to talk about more of it. And until then, thank you for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen.

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