Mention It All - Why Does Jen Shah Still Have A Job? Ft. @bestofbravo

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

For today’s Bravo news catchup, Dylan is joined by Maggie Kelley, creator of @bestofbravo. They discuss James Kennedy’s perplexing Instagram post, the new season of Top Chef, and a Bravo exec’s concerning comments about Jen Shah’s employment status. Then, they turn to the current seasons of RHOSLC and RHOM, and Maggie spills some tea about Sonja and Luann’s upcoming spin-off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents Ha ha, laugh, funny Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, boo. Hey, everyone.

Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and today I am excited to be joined by a new guest on the show. A friend of mine, we have, you know, run in the same circles at Bravo events and, you know, had a little cocktail together. And now I'm excited to have a little sit down on Mike. Please welcome the creator of Best of Bravo, Maggie Kelly. Hi. Hi. Thanks for having me. I'm so

excited. I'm excited to have you here. We have a fun little, I feel like grab bag of topics to talk about today. There's a lot of different stuff going on. Before we get into it, I want to just hear a little bit of your background with Bravo. Of course, you have this Instagram account with tons of followers. We're always, you know, connecting on the gram. But how did you get into this whole, world. Yeah. So, I mean, I started watching Bravo. My first show I ever watched was Rehaustis of New Jersey.

So that's why I feel very, very connected to the Jersey girls. Like, I'm very invested in their lives. And then one day I just kind of decided, you know, after years of watching Bravo, you know, I started, you know, Vanderpump Rules, Southern Charm and all the other housewives. I just kind of just started, decided to start an account. And that was almost five years ago. So I was just, I stay up really late and I get bored at night. So I was like, okay, let's start this.

I'll probably quit after a few weeks. And then here we are. So kind of random. Five years. Damn. That is, I did not realize you've been at it that long. It's, it is one of those things where watching Bravo, it's like, obviously we enjoy the shows so much and there is so much fun stuff that comes out of it.

But sometimes it puts you through the ringer, man. It's a lot. Dylan, it's been, it's been a journey. I feel like these last few weeks, especially, there's been so much going on. And I'm like, I'm like, holy shit. Like, it's nonstop. How are you feeling about this new season of Jersey coming up? Obviously, there's, there's going to be some tough times. It's always, it's always tough out there for a Teresa Judice fan. I'll say it. I always get, I always, it's like my most, um, probably controversial, like, opinion. I know it's not really, but anytime I say anything on my account about, like, in support of Teresa, people come out to, like, play. Like, they, they get so annoyed. They're like, how can you support her?

And I mean, it happens every time. So I'm always on the defense, I think, going into a season. It's the only, it's the only franchise where I feel that way. So, I don't know. I'm ready to write a dog. I'll say that. It is it's tough sometimes because you're like I don't even care that much. I just said my opinion and suddenly people are like, oh, so you're stupid and you're wrong and you're a horrible person.

It's like, no, I'm not like out here like putting my life on the line for anything. I just like said. I just like tweeted. I don't know. Like, sue me. Like it's, I don't know. Yeah. It is funny that you say that because it's our opinions.

I don't know. Sometimes I feel. like I have a lot of unpopular opinions. And that's kind of, that's kind of on me, I guess. But people don't take kindly to them. So I'm just going to, I'm doing me. So I think if people, obviously there are certain things that are easier, you know, like less polarizing than others. But I think if everybody had the same opinions about everything, this Bravo fan community wouldn't be nearly as, you know, built up as it is. Like I think having so much to debate. and talk about and work through kind of makes it interesting.

Yeah, I mean, it's so true. It's like anything, right? I feel like if we all had the same exact opinions about everything, like, it would be so boring. And it makes it fun. So I'm here for it. But it's just funny because I know how Jersey gets. And I mean, I even said, I'm one of those crazy people. I recognize that.

And it's like a disease. It's like a problem. But I, here we go again. Yeah, so hot on the heels of Jersey premiering. We also have a new season of Vanderpump Rules coming out. One of the things I'm most curious to see this season is James's new relationship and how that goes. And right before we started recording, James posted on Instagram two photos with his girlfriend, Ali, from Walt Disney World. And I just want to read you the caption because I'm like, is he getting paid to say this? He said, words can't really

describe how magical this experience has been. Disney's Animal Kingdom is so cool. And being able to spend it with the one I love made it that much more special. Thank you for making my birthday a wish come true at Alley Louber. We will definitely be back to visit. Hashtag best birthday ever. And it's just two photos of them in Disney World. Actually, funny, neither of the photos are in Animal Kingdom. One of them has like the Epcot sphere in the background and the other one is in front of the castle and Magic Kingdom. So I don't know if he's just like a little confused, but what does your read on James' like whole deal right now? I don't even know. I'm, first of all, I pulled a post up too, and it's pretty funny.

And I love James. Once again, I love James Kennedy. So I know that's another one that's a little unpopular. Um, I like him for the show. But yeah, I'm confused about the Animal Kingdom thing. I think his new relationship, well, they started dating pretty soon after him and Raquel, you get things, right? And she's actually, so I live in Nashville and she went to a school here and like just moved out to L.A. kind of recently. She went to Belmont, which is like a big music school here.

Interesting. Kind of interesting. I've had people message me like, oh my gosh, I know her. And like, well, tell me more. But they don't, they don't really know her. You know, they just had class with her or something. So pretty interesting. Yeah. The whole Vanderpump, there's kind of a trend of people just moving to L.A. and then dating somebody, you know, we all remember. Brittany and Jackson. Even Raquel was kind of that way. She was like still in school and would come down to L.A. when she was on break and it was this weird kind of half long distance. It, it seems on brand for James to date somebody who is just freshly in L.A. and potentially looking for some, you know, I don't know, some kind of set up. But it's like they've been together for probably like a year now. Yeah, it probably has been a year. Because I saw, I I actually was in L.A. last April, and I saw James and his girlfriend from afar walking in the parking lot at the grove.

And it was like the most random thing. I wasn't like close enough to like say anything or even to get like a good picture. But it was it was just like, oh, yeah, the new girl. And now she's like fully on the show this season. So yeah. She's like a full time cast member, right? It's a little unclear to me. She has a photo. But so does Christina Kelly. And near as I can tell Christina Kelly is like friend of status. So TBD, it's always weird on Vanderpump Rules how they decide to like promote people. Yeah, it is because I saw the same picture.

And Christina Kelly, I was like, wow, she's full time. And then I was like, no, she's not. She's not. So maybe this girl's her name, Ali, maybe she is not full time. But I feel like with Raquel, there's going to be a lot of drama this year. I'm excited for Vanderpump Rules for the first time in a lot of. long time. Like, I'm really excited. Yeah, I've never been as pessimistic about it as some people. Like, the last couple of seasons definitely weren't great, but there were still kind of moments that I

enjoyed. And I think last season, the whole Sheena and Brock charade really, like, pulled me in in a way. But at the same time, like, overall, the season was not that strong. So I'm, I feel like this season, again, we've been wrong before. But like there's just, there's, feels like there's more potential for like a really solid whole show. No, I think so too. And I'm kind of with you. Like I've invested in these people's lives. So even though like the last couple seasons haven't been as strong, I've still watched. I've still, you know, enjoyed it for the most part. But this season, yeah, I feel like it's, I feel like shit's going to go down. I'm excited. Also, while we're recording this, the new trailer for the new season of Top Chef just came out in the last hour. I don't know if you're a big Top Chef fan, but this season is World All-Stars. So they're in London and Paris, and it's featuring contestants that were finalists and winners from like a dozen different Top Chef franchises around the world.

And it looks really good. Are you a big Top Chef guy? I didn't used to be. And then a couple years ago, kind of like for work purposes, I was like, okay, y'all watch Top Chef and I have been sucked in. Okay, that's kind of, I was like, there's a few bravo shows. Like, I've never really watched Million Dollar Listing either. Yeah. And so I started to watch Top Chef last year and I got sucked right in.

But then everyone's saying I was watching the wrong season. So I guess I don't know what, I can't remember what season it was. I watched a couple in a row. But maybe I'll just start with this season because I feel like you don't have to watch. I know it would be good to watch every season, but I don't know. I won't be able to watch them all before this one. There are some things, okay, being somebody who is like a Bravo connoisseur, obviously I try to watch as much as possible, but there's some things that it's like, I don't need to watch all 17 seasons of Top Chef to like get it. You know, of course, maybe if I someday just have like oodles and oodles of free time, I'll sit down in a fantasy land.

But it's like, no, if I'm going to catch up on an old show, I'm going to prioritize something that has like continuing storylines. Okay, that's a good point. I mean, because I've, I love cooking shows, so I don't actually know why I've never gotten into a Top Chef. I said, I tried, I did last year and then there's just so much going on, but I did really like it. Yeah. You know the people that love it, they love it. And it's obviously, it's a great show. I mean, it's nominated for awards all the time.

So I feel like I should. Have you, speaking of new shows, have you kept up with Southern Hospitality this season? I have. Are you caught up? Okay. I'm like probably five or six episodes. episodes behind, but I feel like the last week or so, it's kind of been popping off on social media. So I'm like, fuck, I need to get back into this. I need to catch up because I feel like

they're going to get renewed for a second season with the amount of like talk that's being generated. I think so too. I, so I was behind at first, but I caught up a couple weeks ago. And the last few episodes are really good. And then they went on Watch What Happens live this week. And that was wild. I mean, I was dying laughing because, you know, it was so messy. It was just really good. They were like accusing each other of all these things. The after show was also very chaotic.

It was really good. So I'm like, they're putting in overtime to get that second season for sure. Yeah, I posted that after show clip of Grace Lilly and Mia going back and forth. And I feel like Grace Lily, I actually, I had her on the show. her and mackel we did an interview together and it's like she was fun to talk to but then when you watch her on TV it's like she fully lives in an alternate reality fully and that's funny you say that because i went to charleston last year and i briefly met her and she was like so nice like she was so nice and so chill and that's not really how she's coming across the show so i always think that's

interesting yeah there's a i feel like there's a fine line where when there's a new show like this, obviously you want to have people who are into it enough to show up and really give us what needs to be gave. But like you can kind of tip a little too far in the direction of being like hungry for the camera. And I think with grace, it almost feels a little bit like she obviously has that natural like it factor personality that makes her watchable. But then when you see like a moment like that after show on Watch What Happens Live, it's like, oh, you could, you're at like a 12 and you could give us a nine and that would be perfectly fine. God. And she just kept at it with Mia. I'm like, girl, like, don't call.

Stop calling her a slut. Stop. I want to just scream like, stop calling her that. Like, don't call other girls that. Like that's not. And even Andy was like, I mean, I'll take you out after me. Mia. I died. I was like, okay. It's like, sure I'll go out with Andy Cohen. Right. And like, Mia wasn't matching Grace's energy level. So it just made Grace look so over the top aggressive where she's like, yes, she is a slut. And all the, the, the, uh, pedicap drivers, they, her nickname is her address. Because she brings home multiple guys every weekend. She's banging guys, banging guys, banging guys. And it's like, everybody else is just like very chill.

And he just sat there and took it. And I, I was like, wow. I don't know what I would do in that situation, but she handled herself very well. I know. Okay. I'm going to catch up on Southern Hospitality, and then we can reconnect for season two because I'm sure it's coming. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, frame, and free people.

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Let's talk about the Housewives shows that we have on the air right now. I know you are a big Miami fan. We'll get into Miami in a minute, but first I want to get Salt Lake City out of the way. We're recording this on Wednesday. Tonight is the first part of the reunion. We had a week off last week

that I think we all enjoyed. We all. But before the reunion, the Hollywood reporter published an interview this week where they talked to a few different

execs that work in unscripted television and one of the people they talked to was the Bravo senior vice president of current programming, Noah Sampton, and they asked him

about Jen Shaw's whole situation and he said some stuff about, you know, it's unfortunate, whatever. But then he was asked specifically about Jen Shaw's, status on the show right now moving forward. Obviously, she didn't go to the reunion. She isn't doing

the sit down with Andy. And this is what he said, quote, we really have not made decisions. And we're discussing it all the time and trying to figure out what the best course of action is moving forward. We always reevaluate. There are people we stop filming with and then start filming with again. It's not math. It's not a simple equation. We try to take into account as many different aspects of what's going on as we can. So this feels to me like sort of a I'm not really going to give you an answer one way or the other, but no, we're not filming with her right now because they're not filming with anyone right now. The season is over.

But like, what would be the benefit of them not just saying, yeah, she's not on the show anymore. She's going to prison. Why are they not just saying that? So obviously she hasn't been fired. Well, it's a little weird because there's always the idea of housewives being fired. But really, the way it works in actuality, in the way it works in actuality. is the season ends and then you either get a contract for the next season or you don't.

And in between, there's no real, none of these people are employed by Bravo. So right now, when they're not filming anything, none of these women are technically employed by the network. So I don't really understand to me why they wouldn't just say, whatever we do with the show in the future, if there's another season, whenever we start filming X, Y, Z, Z, Jen won't be in the cast. Just say that. Say it. I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me.

She's going to be gone for six years. Like even if you're not closing the door to her like ever coming back again in any way, it's like if you're filming any time in the next few years, she's just not going to be there. I mean, she is like at minimum going to be in prison for like at least five years, right? obviously I'm no lawyer. I'm not in the criminal system, but I read that she has to serve 75% of her time. Did you read that? Is that true? It could be making a black. For the federal, yeah, there's a difference with the federal sentences. There's less of an opportunity to get time off for like good behavior and stuff like that. I'm curious, aside from Jen, with this reunion that we are going to sit through, is there anything that you're actually like interested to hear more about? Or are you kind of? of just like, okay, let's get this over with? Not really because, I mean, obviously Heather's not going to tell us about the black eye,

which I'm fully over. It's like, it's giving puppy gate to me. I'm like, I just, I feel, I feel like she's not going to give us anything with that. So at this point, it's like, I don't really need to hear Heather continue to say, I know what happened. Other people know what happened, but I'm not going to say, you know? Yeah. You know, like, it's tough.

Yeah. It's tough because when there's only the four of them, aside from our friends of, which like, whatever, I'm sure they'll try to have their moments and I hope something sticks for their sake and for ours. But like you have Meredith and Lisa who hate each other. It doesn't seem like they're going to work on their relationship anytime soon. You have Whitney and Heather who, you know, from everything we've seen and heard, it doesn't seem like they're on the road to recovery in their relationship. So it does kind of feel like what is the goal of the four of them sitting down at a reunion? Because like I don't see any areas for things to kind of shift or change or move forward in a way that I think the best reunions actually do contain some kind of reconciliation or two people working through their issues or two people, you know, maybe just. Like putting aside there, she's like, those kinds of moments make for the best, most compelling

reunions. And it's like, if it's just people being miserable on the couch for two hours, I don't know. It's not fun. I, I'm with you. Like, I feel like they're going to go into the reunion and they're going to leave the exact same. I feel like there's going to be no resolutions. I hopefully were wrong. But, like, I just, I don't know.

I don't see a lot being resolved. Yeah. I think the one like silver lining for me is that the second this reunion is done. I feel like this franchise is going to be on pause for a second. They're going to get some time to breathe. And then hopefully they can, you know, come up with a good solution moving forward, maybe like later this year to film with a new group. But I'm even thinking, I keep forgetting now that Girls Trip 4 is currently filming in Morocco,

I keep forgetting about Girls Trip 3 that we still haven't. scene that Whitney and Heather are on it. It feels so random that it's like, oh, yeah. Like, we're going to get a whole other show of them fighting. I know. And no one's even talking about Girls Trip 3. I haven't even, I don't think they've announced when it's coming out or anything. I mean, now I'm focused on a Girl's Trip 4.

I'm excited. Yeah. I feel like they need to put out a premiere date and a trailer to get people kind of like thinking about it again because, yeah, I mean, we, like, everybody watched the traders. Everybody's watching Miami. It's like we're all we're all on peacock. So like let us know what to look forward to. Seriously. Oh my God. I off topic, but I love the traders. I loved the traders. I knew I would. It's right at my alley with like competition shows. But I watched it in one sitting like legit straight through ordered food, barely left the couch like such a lazy

bum. And it was so good. It is. good. I feel like everybody I've had on the show in the last like two weeks has been like, can we talk about the traitors? And I'm like, yeah. You said traitors. I'm like, yeah, I think a lot of people that were maybe skeptical about it when it was first announced or if it's not the type of show you would usually watch, a lot of people probably, you know, gave it a try because it has Bravo people or it has other, you know, people they like or it's just like on peacock and it's like, oh yeah, that's actually really good. So good. And Kate was just so funny. I mean, I never want her to leave my screen.

She's such a queen. I love it. We got to find something for Kate to do. permanently. She seriously is reality TV gold. I mean, her and Kyle, they were all good on it, but Kate is back. Kate was cracking me up. Yeah.

So we have the Salt Lake City reunion tonight, but I think the Miami reunion is filming tomorrow, maybe. Yeah. We still have like several episodes left. this season. I think the total episode count was 16 last I heard. I know you're loving Miami this season. You and I got to hang out at the premiere party. Since then, like, what has your biggest takeaway about Miami been this season? I think this season, I don't know. First of all, I think Peacock does something really great, which is, of course, the editing and everything. And Bravo editors are amazing too. But it just feels a little different. I think on Peacock, and it feels like they put it out a little faster than some other shows. So this Lenny and Lisa thing feels more like real time, even though it happened a few months ago, because they're still going through it, right? So when I'm watching it, I feel like, even though this

happened a few months ago, for some reason, I feel like it didn't necessarily. And I think with Miami, Lenny and Lisa, like the whole world hates Lenny, right? And I think that we, it's nice in the Bravo community when we can come together and either like collectively love or hate somebody. It just brings everybody closer. And so I love the Lisa and Lenny storyline because it's so real, it's so raw. It's been a while, especially with like, I don't know, just some of the other stuff going on. I feel like this is like an actual real life, like problem that Lisa is dealing with.

And it just, I don't know. It's nice to see, too, the girls, like, they were all fighting. And then as soon as they heard about Lenny being like a piece of shit, you know, they all rallied around Lisa. And that was like, I think they've done a good job. We obviously when this was all happening in, you know, spring, summer last year, we were seeing a lot of the headlines. And, you know, page six would say this. TMZ would say that. Maybe there was somebody, a cell phone photo of Lenny out with the mistress or whatever.

but they've done such a good job on the show of giving us kind of a peek behind the curtain of like we're lining up the dots of like this is what's happening in the news and this is how it's affecting Lisa and what we didn't see and you know Lenny's in the house with the mistress or he's like saying she needs to find some place to take the kids like those kind of moments where they're really doing a good job of giving us the behind the scenes of what we already saw play out in the tabloids. And I think there are some stories that have happened on Housewives in the last few years where it's like, okay, that was pretty much we knew what we were going to see. And, you know, it's not like it was horrible, but it just, it didn't really feel like

it had that extra layer of intensity. And every episode this season of Miami, it feels, there's like a sense of urgency that's really exciting. I know. And I genuinely am excited for Thursdays. like every Thursday you know I'm supposed to be working my like real job and I turn on Miami and like I don't always watch TV during the day but every Thursday I do I'm like I'm so ready for Miami every week it's really good yeah and there's you know they're just they're all funny their relationships with each other are interesting and have a lot of highs and lows and I I know a lot of people have been loving Larsa this season and then now she's been getting into it with Nicole and that kind of kind of feels like a new, like, exciting, you know, like Battle of the Titans or whatever. How are you feeling about that relationship? So I like both. I like the whole cast. But I do, I mean, obviously, I think Larsa, like, hit below the belt.

Like, I mean, for sure. But I really like Larsa. Like, I really like Larsa. I'm kind of a Stan. So I don't know. I think she's a great, I think she's a great housewife. But I also think Dr. Nicole is a good housewife, too. But I obviously, I think she had pulled a belt.

And I would be furious if someone said that about me, especially because Dr. Nicole has, like, a legitimate, like, career. Like, you can't just say that. You can't just say that about a doctor. Like, they could investigate her. I don't know. Right. It's not, yeah, it's a lot different than just like, oh, I have the dog collar thing and the

jewelry and the only thing. fans in the swimsuits. It's like, you know, like an office I have to show up to every day. Yeah, but it's like, you know, she's like, I mean, she's, she's actually helping and like saving people's eyes. I could never do what she does ever. No one would want me to, but, you know, I, yeah, Larson, I pulled the belt, but I, I, do I love Larsa? Yeah. It's wild to me seeing people on these shows that have real ass jobs. Like, I know. Obviously, people like Nicole, people like, you know, Tiffany Moon, like working in a hospital, but even somebody like Danielle doing Summerhouse, like she's had a real job the entire time she's been on the show or like, um,

Brian from Family Karma, he came in the Betches office to do the podcast and he was like, we finished the recording and he had like Microsoft Teams messages to respond to from his like actual job. And I'm like, that is wild because I feel like I, I have like two meetings on my calendar for a day and I'm like oh my god this is a lot to keep track of I know I don't know how they do it I actually don't know how they have the time how they have the time right seriously I never but I it is kind of fun to have people like that in a cast because it makes it a little more like grounded in the real world sometimes that it's like okay like not all of us are just like going to lunch 24 seven right going to lunch and like

well, I don't really work out, but going to work out. I imagine people do that. I always hear about that. Like, that's how people go in the days. I don't know. I don't know what I would be doing. I mean, probably the same thing. Yeah, it's like, well, we have lunch and then the goat yoga class and then a pedicure in the afternoon. It's like, no, some of these people have to go. Some of these people have to go to work. Yeah. No, and it is, that is cool. Because, I mean, I really like Dr. Nicole.

And I like Larsa. And I actually, I like the whole cast. Like, I don't see a reason to make a change. I just feel like it feels very natural. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I've talked about this with other people that they did a great job of keeping the right people from the OG seasons of Miami and then adding new people.

And like they found a really good balance of kind of making the group feel fresh. but like there's history there. And also in terms of housewives, you have some kind of like old school type of people. And then you have like Nicole and Gertie who feel kind of like a different wavelength in a way that's really exciting. Like there's just a lot of there's a lot of variety in the cast that I think works really well. Yeah. No, definitely. And with all this with all this like Lenny stuff, it does.

I don't know why because I know what happened a long time ago. I don't know why it doesn't feel like it did. I don't know. No. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's exciting every week to see something else kind of develop and no, not really know where it's going, I guess. Totally.

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Do you have people that you would like to see on a future season of girls trip or on some other kind of spin-off from Miami or from other shows? What would you, what do you want to happen next in the wide world of Bravo? That's such a good question because I was literally thrilled with the cast from this ultimate girl's trip four.

I literally about passed out when I said Alex McCord's name on there. I mean, we haven't seen her forever. And I don't know who I'd want. Who hasn't been on it that maybe should? Well, I don't know. I mean, they've only like from Beverly Hills, the first season, Kyle was the only person that did it. And so, you know, like, lover, hater, Lisa Rina is definitely like an all-star type of personality. I think it's interesting, like, the fourth season having repeat people from the second season sort of changed the way we're thinking about the casting because it's like, oh, okay.

So if having done a trip already doesn't immediately disqualify you from the next one, then all of a sudden it gets even more. interesting because like I know people have mixed feelings about the repeat people, but it's like, I have no doubt that Vicky and Brandy are going to get in there and be entertaining no matter who they're paired with. Yeah, I know. I was excited. And I saw a lot of people that were upset by that, but I love the entire cast. And I thought, I think it'll be a really good cast and very interesting dynamic. So I do think Lisa Renna would be, would be good. She seems like a natural person to include. I mean, I feel like she knows a lot of people, too.

She'd get messy. You know, I don't know who else. I mean, of course, I think Larsa add her in there. Alexia did, she's on three, right? Alexia and Marisol are on three. Okay. I'm forgetting who was on that since I haven't even heard about it. Right.

It's like, who else from Miami would be good? Gosh. Lisa. I mean, throw her in there, at least like, I just feel, I feel like they, I feel like all the Miami girls would be good. But if they're filming, I know that makes it tough too. Because I know that I feel like some people with this ultimate girl's strip four, like they couldn't maybe get because of filming and all of that. So I don't know. I'm excited.

I would love to see like Carol on there. I don't know if you'd ever do it. But I would love to see Carol. I know. Yeah. What I feel like there could be something to like, single ladies type of vibe like Ashley Darby

Lisa Carol I don't know if Carol's single technically I don't know she's up to actually at all now that after I said her name I was like that's random I had looked her up and forever she like she responds to a tweet every now and then and just kind of like

lives in her own world I don't know maybe she's writing another book maybe she's on her leopard print couch with those dangerous stairs my friends and I was talking about that last week We were like, we were drinking and we're like, imagine having to climb up Carol Radzool Stairs. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I would die.

These things were treacherous. But yeah, I like her. I wonder why Carol's name doesn't really get brought up for Roney Legacy. Because I feel like nobody, there's kind of like, probably like seven or eight names that kind of get, like, thrown around for Legacy. Obviously, Ramona has said she's not going to do it. Yeah. But it's like, other than.

that it's kind of the same people all the time it's like derinda luann sonia jill maybe like tinsley is kind of like a wild card that people throw out there sometimes but it's like nobody's really talking about carol uh nobody's really talking about oh i guess kelly yeah people talk about kelly yeah i could see kelly i could see kelly i could see kelly being on legacy actually yeah i kind of i'm i'm down for that i'm down for it i mean i i I love the OG New York. So that's like my, that was my favorite forever. So anybody who's on New York,

throw them in. Yeah. At this point, I'm like, if Roney Legacy is happening, question mark, let's get that off the ground. I don't really care who's on it.

Just like find a camera because it's been long enough. Yeah, I know. I keep thinking it's going to be announced. And I don't think that they, like, finalized casting at all.

So I don't know. the win it's going to be announced or anything. Yeah. Are you excited for Sonia and Luann's Illinois? I'm so excited because it's kind of in like my neck of the woods, so to speak. I know. You're an Illinois girl. I am. I'm an Illinois girlie and like a southern Illinois girly. So it's bitten is like like an hour from my hometown. So I didn't go there often, but they were in like our high school conference. So we would travel there for. like I played tennis. You traveled there for like sports and things like that.

But when I found out they were going to Bitten, I about I literally about died because I couldn't have thought I'm more random place in the world than Bint, Illinois. And yeah, it's like it. It is so random. Even just the fact that that show happened and they filmed it and it there's been very little talk about it. I think they sort of teased it at BravoCon, but we haven't heard anything since then. But it's like when you think about all the different housework,

five spin-offs that have happened. It's usually very cut and dry. It's like LVP's restaurant, Candy's Restaurant, Candy's family, Kim Zolsiak's family, Leva's restaurant. So for it to be just like, we can send Sonia and Luann somewhere in Illinois and they're going to do like a theater camp or something. It's like, oh, okay. I think it's going to be so funny because I, well, I love them, of course, but I,

my sister-in-law and my aunt and uncle went to a couple events there because I didn't I didn't go back which is kind of disappointing. I should have, but I didn't. It's not even that far for me. It's like maybe three to four hours. So I could have gone. But my aunt and uncle went to the like talent show competition and they said it was awesome. They loved it. And she's a big housefice fan, my aunt.

So she was like really excited to meet them and they did like the meet and greet and everything. And it's pretty funny. and then my sister-in-law went to this public event there and brought my nephew and Luann held him. Luan, Luan was like, you mind if I hold your baby? My sister's like,

take him. Please. Like, I would love for you to hold him. I'm like if Archie is on the next, like on that season, even in the background, I'll notice him.

I will be so excited. Yeah. But I heard they were very nice and everybody, everybody there had nothing of a good thing to say so I'm excited but Luann is like the Pope she's out here like kissing babies shaking hands bestowing blessings I would be like go ahead take take the kid and run like that's that's my dream and that's like my sister-in-law wanted like she went there she Luan's like her favorite housewife so she went there like hoping that that would happen and so when Luan actually asked she was like please take him and they signed

waivers and stuff and he was like playing with the boom mic and he was like less than one. So yeah, pretty funny though. I was dying when she called and told me that because like, oh my God, you got to meet he he got to meet Lou Anne. He's like zero years old. Oh my gosh. Well, this is that was actually a good informational background about this show because I feel like we know pretty much nothing about it other than seeing like random pictures of them,

you know, like in a field. So we need a trailer for that. I'm waiting on an OC trailer. That has to be coming soon. I don't know. There's like a lot of news we're waiting on, even though it feels like there is a lot already happening. Yeah, I know.

We are waiting on Potomac reunion. Oh, yeah. Right? Like maybe like their outfits. I think that's so much going on. There's so much going on. It's literally, there's every day. There's something.

There's some. Bravo news. The daily, the daily drama is so much to keep track of. But of course, you always do such a good job keeping track of it. And that's why we love you. Oh, so do you. You're, you're one of the first people that comes up on my, my stories. I always love seeing your stuff. Bless the algorithm. Am I right? Thank you so much, Maggie, for joining me today. This is so fun. Gosh, thank you. I'll have to come visit soon. Yeah, and make sure you follow Maggie at Best of Bravo. If you like following Bravo by Betches on Instagram, you're also going to love following Best of Bravo. Perfect.

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