Mention It All - Why Real Housewives of Nashville Wouldn’t Work Ft. Mickey Guyton

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

On today’s episode, Dylan is joined by Grammy-nominated country star Mickey Guyton, who also happens to be a huge Bravo fan. Mickey shares stories from her long journey in the music industry, from auditioning for American Idol to working with Scheana in pre-Vanderpump Rules days. Mickey weighs in on long-gestating rumors of a Nashville Housewives franchise, and shares how she’s feeling about the cast shakeups in New Jersey and Potomac. They also discuss her new album, House on Fire, and how she channels her feelings into everything from music to watching reality TV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am so excited to be joined today by a country music star, a four-time Grammy Award nominee. She has a brand new album out called House on Fire that I have had on repeat all weekend. She's currently on her first headlining tour, and for our purposes here, she is a big Bravo fan. Oh, yeah. Please welcome Mickey Guyton.

Hello. I'm so honored to be talking with you today, truly. I'm honored to have you here today. Thank you. I've known about you for a few years. I didn't even know that. I didn't know that you were a big Bravo fan though until more recently. And so that was a fun little discovery.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm a big Bravo fan. People don't even know this, but I used to work with Sheena from Vanderfamphorls. So you were on Watch What Happens Live last month. with Julianne Huff, which was a fun episode. But they had this old picture of you with Sheena. And you shared that you guys worked together at a cigar bar.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were the days. What, like, what year approximately are we talking here? That might have been like 2007, 2000. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. A long time ago.

Back in the weeds. Back in the day when we still wore weaves. Yes. Wait, so I said weeds. Oh, and weeds. Yep, that too. Yep. We've progressed to lace front weights now. Okay, your hair looks great.

Thank you. Thank you. So that was, if I'm not mistaken, that was around the time that you auditioned for American Idol? Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. American Idol. So talk to me about kind of the last 17, I don't know. A thousand years. A thousand years.

From cigar bar with Gina and Beverly Hills to headlining tour or second album out. Oh, man. It's a journey. It is a journey. Like, it is not an overnight success story like people like to think. But, yeah, I auditioned for American Idol at that time. I got all the way to the top 50. I did not make it on the show.

So that was pretty, you know, disappointing. But, I mean, everything happens the way it's supposed to happen. But I'd befriended this woman after American Idol named Jessica Bendinger who wrote, Bring It on and Stick It. And I'd been singing, I love Stick It. Love it. But I was singing some demos for her because she was writing a book. And when I was singing these demos for her, she was like, Mickey, like, do you sing country?

And I was like, well, why don't you do that professionally? And I was like, well, why don't I? And at that point, I was at such a crossroads in my career. Like, music wasn't working for me. It's going through a really bad breakup. And I sat there with her, like, crying one day. And she was like, well, if this is what you want to do, like, sing. country music. And I was like, okay. And what she didn't realize, like, I've loved country music since

I was a little girl. Like, Leanne Rhymes was the reason why I wanted to be a country singer because I heard her sing the national anthem before she was even Leanne Rhymes at a Texas Rangers baseball game. And it was something that I loved so much. And the next thing I know, I befriended this hip-hop DJ who knew somebody else and somebody else knew somebody else. And the next thing I know, I am singing country music and out in Nashville. And it was like it chose me. It really did. Yeah.

I think it's so interesting because you grew up in Texas, right? And then you have spent time in L.A. You live in Nashville. Like having all of those kind of different influences that it's like being a country musician doesn't necessarily mean, oh, I've only ever liked country or listened to country or even saying country. Just like every other genre of every other, like of every other musician. We all listen to everything.

we all pull from so many different influences. When I was listening to your new album, I feel like I was getting a little bit of Kelly Clarkson vibes. Oh, I love Kelly Clarkson. In some of the vocals specifically, which I mean, she's a beast. But, like, yeah, I feel like you both from Texas. You both have that kind of thing where it's like, it can slide right into country, but then also it's not like only in that box.

Yeah, or like Beyonce. Yes. Yes. I mean, I love her so much. Thank you. There's a little bit of a Beyonce vibe on the new album, because your son has a little interlude. Yes.

That was so cute. Oh, man. That was so funny. Like, that was when he was little. He's three and a half years old now. Okay. But, yeah, it was an intro to my song, Scary Love, which I wrote about my son who almost died in 2021.

Oh, my gosh. Yes, that was really, really scary. He was really sick with a stomach bug that then turned into sepsis. And it was probably one of the most scariest moments of my life watching my son. slip away from me like that. And so that song and that intro means so much more than anybody could ever know. Wow. That is, that is one of my favorite songs from the album. So it's, it makes sense that there is that like deeper meaning behind it because you can kind of feel it when you're listening to it, that it has that kind of like power behind it. Yeah, becoming a mom,

man, like you just, it really makes you understand why your mom is so crazy over you. And it definitely makes you treat people, or at least me. I don't know about everybody else, but I'm a extreme empath. And so now that I'm a mom, like, I look at everybody, like, you're somebody's child. So I, like, really try to handle people with care in that sense. How do you think, I'm curious, I want to talk about sort of your first reality TV kind of that you got into, but watching Housewives and shows like that, knowing that you kind of feel what people are feeling. Oh, yeah. Sometimes is it hard if there's something like really intense going on? I guess secondhand embarrassment.

Like, I have to walk away sometimes when it gets really, really awkward. It's too much. But I, listen, like, life be life in. And sometimes watching Housewives, like, takes me out of my own problems. Yeah. It makes me be like, thank God, this is not my drama. But I'll watch it. Eat my popcorn the whole thing.

I feel like right now especially, it's like you're so locked in with, like, album and touring and all of that. It's like, okay, let me go escape for 45 minutes. Yes. Like at night or. on the weekends, especially. Well, I haven't been able to watch anything lately because I've been so busy. But when I'm at home and can just sit there for a second and I put my son to bed, my husband and I both. Okay. Like, my husband was secretly watching Housewives Atlanta without even letting me know.

And then all of a sudden I'm like watching and he knows all their names and everything. I'm like, how the hell do you know all their names? And he was secretly watching them. That's a green flag in my book. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like it's now my husband like we have this whole thing when we're watching any of the housewives. Like he'll go to the kitchen and be making his snack talking so much crap about.

You know what? Cynthia did blah, blah, blah. And I didn't think that was right. And then come sit back down. It's so funny. It's so good. What do you think about, um, Porsche and Fadre coming back for the next season? Oh, thank God.

It is time. Like, it is time. I knew Fajer was cooking up something when she was on married medicine. I was like, what did like? Like she's coming back to something. Fadra has had the craziest year. Yeah. Because it was like married to medicine.

Then she was on traitors. Traders. Yeah. And she's dancing with the stars now. She's busy. Like we've needed Fadra. You know, she needed to take a little break, you know, handle some stuff with the family.

And now she's back. And it's really cool to see like the world really falling in love with her again. Yeah. So take me back. What was your, I don't know if Bravo was your kind of first reality TV fixation. kind of how did you, what was your first kind of taste of that and how did you get into it? Well, I think my first reality obsession was probably like MTV, like real world.

Yeah. But I really got introduced to the Real Housewives on the OC, the OG OC. Okay. And that's kind of where it started for me. And then I started watching Jersey. That was the next one I got really into. And it has just, no, like, I wasn't a Dallas or Miami one, but everyone else, I was just like, Salt Lake City has me in a chokehold right now.

That one has snuck up on me for sure. Well, I remember when they first announced that they were doing Salt Lake City as a franchise, people were like, huh? That was my thought too. Just like hanging out in the mountains? Yeah. What's going on there? You know, like, where's the drama with Mormons?

But now we know there is a lot of drama. And then some. I was going to ask if you would ever watch Dallas as a Texas girl. I feel like, I feel like some people are like, that's not Texas. It was definitely, it's definitely, it's definitely, definitely Texas. But that was a type of Texas that I can't relate to. Like, I can't even say it on, on air. But it was definitely not my type of Texas for sure.

I feel like they need to, they could try again someday with like a different flavor of Texas. diverse beliefs and thoughts. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. It's so interesting on Bravo kind of how the different shows have totally different vibes. Yeah.

That it's like, okay, like this is a group that I could rock with. Ronnie was definitely one of mine. I really hope they bring Durenda back. She was somebody that I just loved so much. Or maybe she has her own spinoff show. But yeah. She's, I feel she's busy doing something. She's up there in that house.

Living her best life. And that freaking amazing estate. Yeah. So good. It's so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, Frame, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more.

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I heard that too. And I was like, come on, Andy. But Nashville is such a tight-lipped community. I don't know, you know, how that'll pan out. They're very, you know, in their own. I was interested to get your perspective on that because I feel like they, if they were going to do that show, they would be looking for people kind of like in the country music world.

And it's very tight-lipped there. I'm not sure what. what wife of what musician would be like let me let it all air out. Well, because I feel like it's so easy to be like, oh, this will be fun. We'll plug our little business. And then it's like something goes wrong. Yeah, I don't think they, that's the one thing I'm wondering. Like, would they really air out the dirty laundry?

I don't know. I don't know. So you, I mean, had a little experience with American Idol back in the day. And then I know that last year you did a singing competition show as a judge for Apple. Yes. Did that feel like a full circle moment being like, now I'm on the other side of the table? I am, like, again, I'm such an empath that it was like I was so sensitive to the contestants because I know how hard it is. And so often it feels like in singing competition shows, you know, they're there to produce a show, which you have to understand.

Like, everybody is as a cast, they have a very specific purpose for the show. And I understand that. But I wanted these artists to know that I would support them even past the show. And I do. I still keep up and keep up with them. I've seen a couple of the people that were on my season out and about, even here in New York. So it was very full circle moment for sure. Yeah. Well, and I think that's something where, you know, especially back in those days of American Idol, it was like, you win this show and you're going to be, you know, on a billboard and number one songs and everything. And like that you can understand that being on a show like that, even if you don't win, even if you don't get the huge contract right away. Like you can make connections and kind of. of lay groundwork that can serve you in the future. It can definitely give you all the connections that you need. But it also, I don't think people really understand how hard the music industry is, period. That even if you are the contestant that wins that year, like, that's just laying the groundwork.

Like, it is so hard to make it in the music industry. And I don't think they tell a lot of the contestants that, like, you think, oh, man, I win this. I'm going to make it. And it's not always like that. Right. I'm going to, they're going to give me a makeover. And I'm going to have a single. Like, you think you see someone with a music video on.

You're like, oh, they've made it. But it's not like that. Yeah. Yeah. So your second album is the one that just came out. And it's been like three years since your first album. Yeah. So what was it like kind of getting the gears back in motion and like coming back to do it again?

Man, you know, that album back in 2021. Wow. Yeah. That came at such a really tough place. I think in life for me and I think for all, everybody in the world. You know, we were coming off of a, we were in the middle of a really bad pandemic. And there was all of this racial tension in our country and still is sometimes. And so I was pretty traumatized and went through a lot.

So the last three years, I have been healing. I've been working a lot, but I have had to like really put my mental health first. And like, you know, my anxiety was almost crippling at a certain point. And so I was really having to to take care of that and to get my gears back into this. I'm definitely in a much, much healthier space as of today. Yeah. I think that's, that's like so important that you're able to like get the work back to the place you want in terms of like putting out new music. It's a very tangible thing. Like the song has to be done. But also if you're putting it out and you don't feel like you're in the right place personally, then it's kind of like, you're not going to be able to kind of

give it what it deserves. No, you can't. Like, it's so important, you know, that mental health, we've got to get that on lock because life be life in y'all. And so I'm in my love era. Yeah. I am. Yeah, I think definitely like one of the first times that I became aware of you was in 2020 when you put out your song Black Like Me, which is super powerful. And you put it out right in the kind of height of the Black Lives Matter movement and after the George Floyd protests and everything. And I think that's, I think it's so inspiring to see someone in an industry that isn't necessarily paying attention to those things, really speaking up and speaking out. But then it's tough because if you're the face of something that not everybody is on board with, then you're the person who they're going to

kind of come after. Yeah. Let me tell you, you know, being a trailblazer comes with a price. And And definitely my mental health was affected tremendously by that. It was, you know, all I wanted to do was all I want is equality for all underserved communities in country music. Like it doesn't matter who you are black and the LBGTQA Plus community, everything. Like the Latino community, there's so many people that love country music that would just want the chance. And so I was like, well, you know what? I'm your Huckleberry. I will say what needs to be said, or at least what I thought needed to be said to get people to be more open.

And it is starting to happen slowly, but surely. And it's been really, really great. Yeah. I think that's, yeah, it is, it's something that it's like, it's never going to happen overnight. Even from Brothers Osborne, like T.J. Osborne felt the courage to come out. And that was such a beautiful, much needed, I believe, step forward in the country music industry. Yeah. I just saw, I saw Marin Morris over the weekend.

And like, she's somebody too who I'm like, that's my girl. Yeah. Marin is my girl. And she put on a good show too. It was a fun time. She is someone like she carried me. We carried each other through a lot of the pandemic. Like she is just salt of this of God's green earth.

And I think everybody needs to continuously support her. Like she is like the one. I don't know, no two or three. She's out one. No, I love that. When you have people in that community that you feel like you can kind of have that deeper connection with. That's that's so important. Because it is like you said, it's a hard industry.

Even without all that extra bullshit. I mean in the industry period, like even in your industry, it's hard. It really is. Yeah. You also performed over the summer at the DNC, which was what was that? I can't imagine that experience. That was a spiritual experience for me. You know, we've been going through.

so much in our country and so many people have accused certain sides of not being patriotic and that has been a tough pill to swallow especially from people like me or people like you where like this is our country too and being there it was just you saw everything you saw the America that I see on an everyday basis and everybody was waving their flags and everybody was so proud to be an American and everybody was together, all colors, race, creed, everything. It was just, just beautiful. And it just made me so proud to be there. How did that, like, how did that opportunity even come to you? I don't even know. All I know is I got to woke up in Chicago.

And they were like, and we want you to sing your song All American. And I was like, I am your Huckleberry. I will do it. I would love to be there to support. I think that's so cool, though, because it shows that they really are. They're like looking for inclusion. Inclusion and bringing together, you know, country music and you have different, you know, Pink was performing. It's like everybody, there's something for everybody. I cried. Yeah.

I cried when Pink performed. I did. Yeah. When her daughter performed, it took me out. Took me out. That was cool. When you finally find your thing, you want the whole world to know about that thing. So you use a thing called Canva to make it an even bigger and better thing.

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I am. It's your first headlining tour. I know. It's an abomination. I know. It's my first headlining tour ever. So in the past, I mean, you've toured. Yes, I've been an opening ass. I know you opened for Shania Twain, which is like just... She's another one that just...

She's a badass bitch. Like, this woman was not afraid to be sexy. And a lot of times, you know, country music is so conservative. And she was like, I will have my ass out. I do not care. And I just respect that so much because she's just so comfortable with being a woman. And I just think that that's so cool. Yeah.

And she's been able to have such longevity. too. Because, I mean, you think back like early 2000s, she was it. Like, she was so massive. And like, it takes a lot to sort of sustain that and be able to sort of weather. Because, you know, like, people are going to come for you. Yeah. You know, there's going to be like personal struggles and all of that.

But it's cool to see somebody who's been able to kind of stay at that level for such a long time and still be out here, like, putting on a great show. Exactly. Because she has an amazing fan base. Like her fan base, like when I opened for her, it was, again, everything. Like every, I think the whole point in why she is so important is she makes everybody feel like they're welcome. And that to me is a true testament of a superstar badass country artist is that she makes her fan base feel like they're all accepted. And you saw everything there. And that was awesome.

Yeah. So this tour that you're on right now, what feels different about it being able to kind of, have it be like all, it's like, it's your show that you're putting together from start to finish. Like, how has that experience been? It's been so great, like hearing people sing your songs back or my songs back. And I just don't feel like I am like fighting for approval. Like, these people love me. So it doesn't feel like I'm trying to impress anybody.

And it just feels really freeing. It's really uplifting. Again, seeing like such a diverse group of people at my shows has been really, really special. and it makes me feel like I'm walking the right path and making people feel like they're accepted and that's really, really cool. Yeah, I feel like that must make some of the hard times feel like they're paying off.

100%. As hard as it is, is knowing that a man can bring his husband to my country show and know that I love them both and would never judge them, that's why I do it. That's why I do it. Yeah, I think, that's so great. It's, it's cool to see, like, that you're kind of doing this in your own way and, and, like, and really, like, making it happen and all of that. I've got a really good team sitting

over there. You got to have a good team. Yeah, you got to have a good team. It's like, I mean, not to, not to make it all about housewives, but it's like one person can't be a housewives. No, no, no, no, no, no. You need a team of people. It takes a village. You need the ensemble. Exactly. I want to talk about, I know you're a real housewives of Potomac fan and they're coming back. Praise God. I was really sad that Candace. I was going to ask because I feel like you would be like a Candace.

She and I like we're friends. Oh yeah, because she's in the music game. Yeah. She is such a kind person. Okay. Like I, she is so great for TV. First of all, she's so intelligent. And her comebacks and the shade she throws takes me out every time.

But outside of housewives, like she is like salt of the earth. Homegrown, good person. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like she's one of those people, though, where when she said she was leaving the show, she's having a baby. Like she felt like, okay, like you take this time. Yes.

Maybe you'll be back. Please come back for this. If you're listening, if you're watching, come back, please. It's hard when you've watched people on TV for such a long time. And then they leave for whatever reason. Sometimes it's their choice. sometimes it's not. I was sad about Robin.

Yeah. She's going and who else isn't coming back? It's just Robin in Kansas. It's just the two of them. We still got Giselle. We still got Ashley. Yeah. I was sad about Robin, but I understand.

I think it's tough when you've had for such, I mean, it's like what, nine seasons or something that they've had. Pretty much all of them there. It's like you sometimes have to shake it up a little bit to get there. You really, really do. I think a lot of the housewives could be shaken up a little bit. It's time. It's time. I do miss Ronnie, though.

I miss that cast. Like, I do. Like Sonia and I do. You mentioned Jersey. I know you're into Jersey as well. So that is one where everybody's like, obviously we need something's going to happen with this cast. It was really hard.

I did have time to watch the season finale. That was really, really hard to watch. It was hard to watch. And then the- It was uncomfortable. They like didn't do that reunion. Yeah. So like what, where do you.

fall on the on the jersey dilemma like what would you do if you were in the control room oh man i don't even know like that's so hard when it's like actual family and and teresa and melissa have had this feud for so long it's been so long and there's there's actual emotions involved and i think you know i think it's right to give them a little bit of a break maybe they can figure this out because at a certain point, it's just, it's just, I think we're all like, it's, it's uncomfortable at this point. At first, it was like entertainment, like, get your popcorn. Right. Now it's like, all right. Like, these people have grown kids. Like, this is just, it hits different. Yeah. And it's tough what it feels like, sort of year after year, you're finding yourself back in the same hole again. And it's like, we said we were

going to, we said we were going to work on this. We said we were going to keep our peace or whatever. It's like, it sucks to see. when it feels like people just kind of can't keep it together a little bit like that. And sometimes I wonder like maybe if the cameras were off, they would be able to like, your emotions get heightened, you know? That's the tough thing that it's like, we need the show. Yeah. And you need the entertainment, but you also need a family, you know? So I don't know.

I think it's great. I don't know how any you can top that cast. But, you know, I think Andy's got it under control. He'll figure it out. Do you, would you, do you think you would ever do? a reality show that was like not a competition like about your life? Absolutely. Absolutely.

If I had creative control. If I had creative control. Got it. Okay. Because tequila Mickey, when tequila Mickey comes out, you know, you never know what you're going to get. Okay. It's always positive though. Always positive.

Like, come on. Of course. Obviously. Yes. You're like country music is a little buttoned up. Yeah. And then just tequila Mickey comes out. Lord Almighty.

So now that the album is done, is tequila mickey like is is tequila mickey like allowed to come out when the work is done? When the work is done yes sometimes before the work is done if I get my manager Karen out

especially a frozen margarita okay there's a place in Nashville called El Fuego and it's this little you know small little restaurant and they make these frozen margaritas and you're only allowed to will put you out

I'm not kidding. Only two. I'm going to take you. You're going to have to come to Nashville. Betches needs to come to Nashville. Betches does need to come to Nashville. You do. Yes. We'll make it happen. We need to make it happen. You know, so I went to college in New Orleans. And there's a restaurant in New Orleans that does a lunch on Fridays where there's 25 cent martinis. This is when you know. And it's three per customer. That's when you know. But it's like, okay, so I left lunch and I had three martinis. Like, that's the end of the day.

That is the end of the day. That is the end of the day. that is the start and the finish. Like, it's time to go home to go to bed. That's what those margaritas do to you. Okay. Don't they, Karen. Don't think. We got a no comment.

I got her on that one. Yeah. Okay. Don't come out with me. Like, you're going to have a good time for sure. I can sense it. Yes. I can sense it.

I feel like Mickey's a good time. I have a great time. I am a great time. You still got a little bit of that like 2007, L.A. energy. Oh, yeah. Farrell Energy. for sure. It is crazy to think that like that seeing that photo, I was like alternate timeline.

Yeah. You could be on Vanderpump rules. I could have. I could have no album. With nothing. Nothing. No Grammy nomination. Nothing.

No, Sheena has that coverage. She's doing real good over there. That, I mean, they, that's an empire. It's an empire. Like, it's so crazy that, you know, when that show first came out, it had me in a choke hole too. It really did. Have you ever gone to any of the?

the Vanderpump places in LA. I was thinking about going to the something about her I pretty good. Sandwich shop. Yeah. It looks really good. I know, I have friends who have gone and they're like,

it's actually a pretty good sandwich. It looks really cute. You know, who doesn't like a good sandwich? Yeah. Yeah. Next time you're in L.A. Maybe.

Next. So Betches is coming to L.A. and Nashville. I'm coming on tour. Here we go. I've got some good places for you in Nashville too. Okay. Yeah.

I, that sounds like a plan to me. But until that, I'll just keep listening to the album. Let's go. Hopefully everybody else will too. Yes, please. I think it's, I think sometimes people get scared about like country music.

Yeah. Because you feel like if you're not a huge country fan. Yeah, it's only going to be like, darn, durn, darn, darn. That's not my thing. No, it's not. But I think this, a lot of things. I think this album is like a really, it's a really great, like, balance of, it's a little bit country.

It's a little bit of that, like, pop, soul, everything. Like it, it has a lot going on in a good way. Thank you. Congratulations. on everything. Thank you. Thanks for being here. I'm so glad I got to talk with you. It's really been an honor. Me too. And thank you everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. Stream Mickey's new album. House on Fire. Wherever you get your music. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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