Mention It All - Will We Ever See Another “Legacy” Show?

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Now that RHONJ has come to an end, Dylan spends this week’s Monday episode sharing a host of Bravo news items and answering some listener questions. He recaps his experience at Andy Cohen’s wax figure unveiling, plus Bethenny and Gina’s latest social media self-deprecation. Next, he unpacks the unfortunate news about Ariana Madix’s brother Jeremy, and a few more reactions to Dance Moms: A New Era. Later, he gives some recommendations for those who have finished binging Housewives (including a tantalizing new show) and spills the tea on his worst Bravoleb interaction. Finally, he ponders whether another franchise besides RHONY could be in line for the Legacy treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to check me both Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast We are kicking off another week With lots of stuff to get into I took some of your listener questions From Instagram

Some from last time That we didn't get to There's a good mix of stuff We're going to talk about And also we just have some updates from around the Bravo world. So this is a little bit of a random Monday. You know, we're waiting for Real Housewives of Salt Lake City trailer to drop. It hasn't dropped yet.

But hopefully I'll have that to talk about next time I record. You know, Jersey is over. It was, I hate to say it. It was a little bit nice not to have a Real Housewives of New Jersey episode to watch like Sunday night, Monday morning. Not because I don't. we did the whole season. You know, I love Real Housewives of New Jersey, but just like the vibes weren't the best.

And so, you know, yes, I did have to figure out what I was going to talk about today. But, you know, I didn't have to talk about Teresa and Melissa. And I have not put a single question about the Real House of Ice of New Jersey on my little list of things to get to because let's be honest,

there's nothing to talk about at this point. They're not going to start filming until next year. Nobody knows what's happening. Nobody's made any decisions. you know, Andy is still getting asked in every possible interview what's happening with Real Housewives of New Jersey. And you know the funny thing, the first thing I want to touch on is that last week I had the pleasure of seeing Andy. Actually, two Andes because I went to Madame D'Sodes in Times Square for the reveal of his wax figure. First of all, I hadn't been to

Madame Tussauds since I was 15 years old. The first time I ever was in New York City, I was here for a week-long theater camp. Yes, that's where I come from. If you have questions about why I'm like this, it's because the first time I was in New York City was when I was 15 for theater camp, and you know, you can extrapolate from there. But we went to Madame Tussauds. And so I had, I have like the bad digital camera selfies of me with every wax figure. in Madame Tussauds from when I was 15. And when I got invited to go back last week, I expected to just, like,

not give a shit about the whole wax figure, wax museum part of it, because I'm like, okay, like, who cares? I'm going here because it's like a work thing. It's for Bravo. Andy's going to be there. Cool.

We'll take some pictures. It is what it is. But when we went up in the elevators, they dropped us off in the, like, Met Gala themed room of Madam Tussauds. And right when you get off the elevator, it just is so, it's such a bizarre experience to just look around and out of the corner of your eye, you see like Jennifer Hudson waving at you.

You see Tom Cruise looking a little bit younger than he currently looks. You see Kate Winslet and Leo DiCaprio, like they're kind of paired together because why not? It's Titanic. And then there's like this fountain in the middle and you just, your eye line just goes up a little bit. And there is Katie Perry dangling from the ceiling in that chandelier dress she wore to the Met Gala, the camp here, spinning around in slow circles, just in perpetuity, Katie Perry, above, above it all. But it's just like all of a sudden, I'm there with people that you know from being on the podcast, I'm there with Jared Alexander and Abby Bonadies and Gibson Johns was there.

And we all are, it's like we're kids in a candy story. We're just automatically taking selfies. Selfies with Chris Jenner, selfies with Tom Cruise. You can't stop yourself when you're in that environment. Are these pictures good? No, they are not. I think I posted one picture of Chris Jenner that I took. And Chris Jenner's wax figure, I don't know. I don't know what she paid Madame Tisodes under the table.

I'm sure they don't do that. I'm sure they don't. But Chris Jenner's wax figure looks fucking good. Like some of them are, it is kind of crazy because some of them with Madame Tisodes, some of them are so good and so eerily lifelike that it's like you can get up up close and personal and you can just walk up and take a photo with them you can hug them you can there's nobody that's like stand behind the line but some of them are like so not as good and I was nervous going to Andy's wax figure reveal I'm like okay what if he has a bad one what if it's bad

he's going to walk in the room and have to pretend to be impressed by it and take a bunch of photos and you know the whole time he's like, oh, they got my fucking hair wrong. That, it would be uncomfortable for everybody. And let me tell you, the Andy Cohen wax figure, so from the Met Gallo room, we walked through this like back passageway by the bathrooms to cut over to the TV personality rooms

because, you know, everybody has to be separate. And so Andy is in a replica of the Watch What Happens Live Clubhouse, and they did an amazing job. replicating the clubhouse. The, um, the, the, like, publicist or whoever from Madame Tussauds that was there was telling us that it's the most they have ever spent on one single display. And I was going to say enclosure, but like, it's not a zoo. But they painstakingly recreated stuff. They said they were buying, uh, memorabilia and things that are in the actual clubhouse. They were buying versions of them on eBay, on, uh, you know, on Etsy. They were buying.

things all over the internet. Sourcing, there's like an Andy Cohen, St. Louis Cardinals, limited edition, Bobblehead. There's the exact set of encyclopedias that they have. They made two of those light, bright artwork displays that they have in the clubhouse. They made two of those custom that are like New York themed, you know, piece by piece, all by hand. It is, it's really crazy. And that's before you even see the wax figure that it looks so good. It is, he got a good one. And like I was saying, some of them are not good. And Andy Cohen is right next to Jimmy Fallon, like the Tonight Show set.

And Jimmy Fallon looks fucking freaky. Jimmy Fallon, I don't know if he went to his wax figure reveal. I should look and see if there's like old Getty images. Jimmy Fallon got the short end of the stick. And Andy's looks great. I was so relieved just because then you know that you're going to get like a genuine, like, positive reaction because he's not going to be like, I don't look like that. And when Andy walked in, it really was, I know we're talking about wax figures. And like Madam D'Sodes is kind of like, L.O.L. It's like a, you know,

tourist attraction. I probably wouldn't, I don't know how much it costs to go there. I don't, you should pay to go there for sure. But like, it doesn't like speak to me. I walk past there a lot. It's, it's right in time square. But being there, seeing Andy see his wax figure for the first time. I'm like, this is a cool moment. This is fun. This is good. I like this. But I digress.

So, of course, Andy's looking at, he's looking at the hair, the watch, the whatever. They got it just right. They, you know, it's his old, he gave them a pair of shoes and a suit from his closet to put on the wax figure. They look great. But then there were, there were, like, correspondence there from, I think it was entertainment tonight and extra. You know, two of those shows.

And they had little interview segments with Andy. And both of them have to do the, oh, you're so excited to get the way. Max figure. Tell us about this. How, you know, you sat for the modeling thing. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, and while we have you, what's up with New Jersey? Both of them did it. And I don't regard to them at all. This is the job. Everybody would be, it would be bad journalism not to ask. But the thing is, and this is why I didn't want to talk about it, it's so boring right now because there's no news. There's no update. It's over. It's on the shelf right now. They have New York coming out. They have Salt Lake City coming

They have got other stuff to worry about. And Jersey back burner. So Andy didn't have anything, didn't have anything interesting to say. I don't have anything interesting to say. So let's just keep it moving. And let's talk about Bethany. I love that I'm like, I'm bored of talking about New Jersey, but let me talk about Bethany's like 55th TikTok drama of the year.

She's apparently, she's moved on from being mad at Chanel. Actually, I'm sure she hasn't. But she is now, she's mad at Round Swamp Farm, which is. this like Hampton's bougie marketplace. It's like there's the barefoot Contessa, there's Aeroon, there's Roundswamp Farm. It's a Hampton's thing. And Bethany is claiming

that she was responsible for making them go viral because of their like $40 chicken salad that they sell in like a prepackaged plastic container. First of all, I'm not a Hamptons person, but even I for years have known about Roundswap Farm. Like it's

It's a thing. It's a place that people go. It is, I am sure, very popular, very successful because rich people spend time in the Hamptons and they spend money on whatever the fuck they want. And whatever the fuck they want is $40 chicken salad little plastic containers. But Bethany is, you know, proclaiming to be the reason for the season at Round Swamp Farm. And so she posted this video where she is walking into Round Swamp Farm, talking about how, oh, my God, when I walk in, they're going to be so, They're going to be so happy to see me. They're going to flap out because I was the one that made the chicken salad go viral and they're going to lose it. And so Bethany is filming on her iPhone.

But that's not the video. We're seeing a video that somebody else has filmed of her filming while she walks into Round Swamp Farm. And when she walks in, you could hear a fucking pin drop because you know how many people are losing their minds and excited to see her? Nobody. Zero. She walks in that gleam in her eyes where she's like, this is going to be a moment. She goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And he's just like, hi, hi, ma'am. Welcome in.

Just like the normal ass greeting you would expect when you see an employee in a grocery store. And Bethany is like incredulous. She can't believe that this has happened to her. And the fact that she still posted this is so wild. me because first of all, you are not the reason that this store is in business. You're not the reason that this store is making money. Second of all, you're filming like random employees and people shopping in the store, which I always think is just such a weird look. Like, we have become too comfortable on the internet with just like filming people going about their lives.

And like, you know, as somebody who I've worked retail in the past, if somebody walked in just like filming me, I would be like, I would not like that, but you feel like you're in a position where you can't say anything because the customer is always right. But then, like, the added layer of it's not just Bethany filming. It's somebody filming, Bethany filming. It's like, what do you think this is for? Do you think you're going to get, like, a Netflix documentary? And then we're going to need the behind-the-scenes footage of you going to Round Swamp Farm.

Bethany just continues to make herself look absolutely unhinged online. And it really is, it's a sight to behold. Speaking of things online, Gina, Gina Kirsten Heider responded to people dragging one of her confessional looks from this season, which I think I have spoken about. It's the one where she is, her hair is sort of like a swoopy, like grayish blonde bob, and there's a lot of volume that has been put into this hair. It's kind of like sideswept, like a side part. And it's just like, it's big, it's tall. It's, I'm looking at it right now and I still just don't, I can't quite put my finger on

what makes it look so strange. And then she's wearing like 55 gold. necklaces and this silvery, metallicy tank top, corset top type of thing with like blue stitching on the seams. And Gina has heard that we don't love this confessional look. She's heard. And she, you know what? She agrees.

She posted this minute long video where she is like, okay, guys, so I know you don't like this look. And I can agree. It's not my best. actually I do really like the outfit. I think it looks really good. But, you know, the hair is not great. It's not on point.

But, you know, you can't land every plane. And people point it out in the comments that actually you kind of are supposed to land every plane. Like, landing a plane is something where, like, if you're shooting for 75% of the time, that means 25% of the time the plane crashes and people, die. So like, really, you're shooting for 100% of the time. And even if you mess it up one time, you probably are not really going to have the opportunity to land very many more planes. I don't know that it was the best metaphor. But Gina, I appreciate that she is willing to kind of own her look, maybe not being the best. And she does say that she will do better next time,

but also maybe she won't. Because as we've seen in the past, Gina, putting together a confessional look is not always going to be a recipe for success. And you know what? I have a, think that makes her more lovable as a housewife, more relatable as a housewife. I think that Gina is not always, she's not always perfect in her looks. She's also not always perfect in the way she goes about things on the show. But if we have somebody that's perfect and boring and looks pretty all the time and never does anything to make us mad, you're probably not going to be on housewives for six seasons. So, Gina, I think you are doing a great job. And by that, I mean that sometimes you're doing a great job and sometimes you're doing a bad job, but that I appreciate them both,

and I think that both are necessary. But I wish more housewives would kind of like comment on the commentary about them in a way that doesn't feel just like, well, you're fucking haters and poor people. And so, you know, what do you have to say about me? I don't think most people could pull off this tone that Gina is doing in this post. And I think it's a good look on her. Maybe a better look than the big, um, like bouffant. Bob, so good for Gina. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off.

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This next thing that I want to talk about, it's a little bit of a strange story that I wish we didn't have to talk about, but I feel like it would be weird not to mention it. And this is that over the weekend, news came out that Ariana Maddox's brother, Jeremy, was arrested. And the details are pretty strange. So on February 16th, and this was first reported by TMZ, it's coming from court documents. This stuff is, you know, this is the facts of what we have that, you know, is reported to have happened. So on February 16th, Jeremy and his friend were stopped in the Orlando airport. They were traveling to Frankfurt. Their suitcases were searched.

And in their suitcases between the two of them were found vacuum sealed bags containing over 100 pounds of cannabis. 100 pounds. That is, that's a lot of cannabis. You're usually buying cannabis in like what, like an eighth, a quarter of an ounce? You're buying small amounts. So 100 pounds is serious amounts of drugs. So there was a warrant put out for his arrest. And this happened in February, but then he wasn't actually arrested until July 10th at his home in California.

He was extradited to Florida because these are state charges. And not only that, but in Florida, the charge that he was hit with, which is trafficking in cannabis, more than 25 pounds or 300 plants. It carries a minimum sentence of three years in prison and a fine of $25,000. We don't know that that is kind of the latest update we have, that he was arrested. They were requesting certain things with his bail situation and that he would be able to go back to California because he has a job and a fiancee and, you know, a life in California. But this is, it's not great. If this charge, because, you know, drug charges usually are the type of thing where it's like the more of it, that you have, the more severe it is. And I think probably at this point, I don't know how

Florida laws work, but getting caught with like a small amount of cannabis is not that big of a deal. But if you have 100 pounds in your suitcase, that is, it makes things a little different. So I don't know what's going to happen there. I think it's interesting to note in March, Jeremy was on a podcast where he said that he hadn't heard from Ariana in months and that they hadn't really been speaking lately. So I don't know if they have been in touch at all since then if Ariana's really like involving herself in this situation at all. I don't think any of them have commented on it publicly. But just like weird, unfortunate stuff.

Jeremy has always been somebody who kind of flies under the radar. And, you know, I want to say, I hope there's more to this or that he, you know, is going to be get off or something. But it's just having 100 pounds of anything in your suitcases. I mean, it's a lot of drugs. But also it's cannabis. Like, I don't know. Who among us? I mean, 100 pounds.

I have not. I have never traveled with 100 pounds of cannabis in my suitcase, if anybody at the DEA is listening. But, okay, before we get to the listener questions, I promise they're coming. I just want to check back in quickly one more time with Dance Mom's A New Era, because I did talk about it last week. And I said I probably wouldn't talk about it again. But I had some people respond and be like, no, please talk about it again. And I did go and watch the second half of the season. So I'm just going to close the loop a little bit on Dance Mom's A New Era

Because this season, it really held my attention the whole time. It's a pretty crazy 10 episodes of television. And I just want to I want to rattle off. Before we get into any specifics, I made a list of some of the dances that they did this season because the themes and the motifs and the props that are being used really are just, they sort of have to be seen to be believed, so you can watch it if you want. But there's, let's see, there's a dance called Baby Jessica, which is a solo, of course, about baby Jessica who fell down a well.

But in this version, the dancer has to, she's responsible for pulling herself up out of the well. There's a dance called Here Kitty Kitty that is inspired by the musical Cats. Of course, they can't use copyrighted music for any of this. So it's all like vague music that kind of sounds like it could be from Cats. There is a dance called The Menu, inspired by the movie The Menu, that is, they all play waiters, and it ends with a cloche being lifted, and one girl's head is being served up on a platter, just normal things for 10-year-olds to be dancing about. There's a dance called Priscilla where somebody plays Priscilla Presley, and it's, you know, about meeting Elvis when she was 14, as the girl says when she learns this story, you. The dance called Medium, I think I talked about last week in honor of Miss Glow's Stillborn Son, that was an emotional walk. There is a dance called Cinema Paradiso where a little girl plays a Hollywood starlet who, of course, dies.

There's a Jean-Beney Ramsey dance, need I say more, with big pageant hair. There's a dance called Heart Stopper where it's inspired by the Netflix show, Heart Stopper, about two girls who fall in love and everyone else plays the bullies. There's a dance called Explosions in the Sky, which is about living through war. There are explosion sounds happening throughout the dance and the girls have to look horrified. And then I think somebody dies at the end of that one, too. There's a solo called Seeing Red, which is inspired by Lorena Bobbitt, famously who cut off her husband's penis. That's a normal thing for a 12-year-old to be doing a dance about.

And then in the finale, the season finale, the big group number is called body bags. And you're like, oh, wow, that sounds intense, creepy, maybe even. It starts with a body bag. There's like a fake body in the middle of the stage. And this dance is about what else, Ms. Glow tells us, fentanyl poisoning. It's a dance, it's a group dance. I don't even want to, okay, so I'm laughing because it seems so ridiculous. And also because my producer bell is laughing.

But this episode, this is the season finale, episode 10, if you're watching the show, I mean, it's a spoiler, but also, again, it's dance moms. The entire episode becomes this like emotional ordeal because they're talking about, drug overdoses and the opioid epidemic, and one of the girls in the dance immediately starts crying because she has a cousin that she says died from an overdose. And so the stakes are just incredibly high here because they're these, one thing about dance moms and specifically about this group of girls is that everybody is crying pretty much all the time, whether it's scared crying, whether it's sad crying, whether it's just like nervous crying. But Ashlyn, the main girl, starts crying, and then immediately everybody else is crying because

Ashlyn's crying. And then it's like a big group hug and it's a whole thing. And they're talking about fentanyl poisoning. And then Ms. Glow, the teacher, brings in a mother-daughter who I guess were on the original dance moms. They're not like the original original dance moms. But like apparently they're known. The girls were really excited to see them. And they had, this girl had a brother who died from fentanyl poisoning. Like he took a pill that he thought was a sleeping pill and it was a fentanyl pill. So everybody's crying about that. But then in the dance, back to the dance, there are these like body bags on stage that have like fake bodies already in them throughout the dance.

But then what happens throughout the group number is that one by one, these girls are like, I guess, overdosing and have to lay down on empty body bags and zip themselves up into the body bags. So by the end of the dance, this girl, Ashlyn, is the only one left on stage. And she's the one whose cousin died of an overdose. And so the dance ends in silence with her just like full body heaving sobs because she is so emotionally overcome from doing this dance about fentanyl. I was kind of speechless because I'm like, okay, this is ridiculous. But also, So I'm like kind of in a state of emotional shock because it really came together into this like, it really hits you over the head, but then you're like, oh, damn, this is intense.

And they're talking about how if they can even change, save one person's life from doing this dance. It doesn't matter if we win. I mean, of course it matters if they wouldn't because they would all get screamed out if they did it. But man, this season, it is a lot. It feels like the moms kind of know, the moms know what they need to be doing to be making good TV. and sometimes it feels a little bit ridiculous. But at the same time, it's 10 episodes that I got through in less than a week. And I have a lot of thoughts.

But then the season ends. They've been teasing that, you know, depending how they all dance at nationals, not everybody might be invited back to Ms. Glow's elite competition team next season. And it ends. They're in the like, you know, get ready room after they win their national team first place. And she goes, you know what? I think it's only fair. that I tell you guys right now

who's going to be asked back next season. So everybody get in a line and when I call your name, please step forward. Cut to black. To be continued. To be continued. It's the season finale. This show, to the best of my Googling ability,

has not yet been picked up for a season two. To be continued, if Hulu feels like it, maybe in a year, a year and a half, because these dance competitions that they filmed in season one, I'm pretty sure they were all happening this past spring because it starts when it's like snowing in Virginia and then it ends.

They're in Miami. They're in Fort Lauderdale for nationals. I don't think they've filmed any more of this show because the competition season usually isn't really happening over the summer. I don't know why I know that. But like the soonest they're going to make more episodes, I would think would be this fall when things kind of start to pick back up.

up again. So we're probably not seeing another season until mid-20205 a year from now. And they hit us with a to-be-continued on the season finale. And this is something I, one of the listener questions I want to talk about is people asking, somebody asked, if they've watched every Housewives franchise, they can't get enough, are there other shows and things that they can watch to give them sort of a similar vibe? So I'm going to share a couple of recommendations. But with this, we're not. We, we're talk about Bravo overusing the to be continued. And I think sometimes they do. You know, not every, not every dinner party needs to have a to be continued in the middle of it. Not every argument is worthy of being finished up next week. But I don't think Bravo has ever done

a to be continued on a finale. People would riot. People would riot in the streets. And so Dance Mom's a new era. I mean, I guess I applaud your bravery, but also, who's making the team? I'm going to have to be that person who's in like Reddit threads and dance competition blogs in the fall being like, okay, is the studio blue elite competition team at any competitions right now? And if so, who's on stage? Because I need to know who made the team. Also, apparently the studio that this season was set out went out of business. And so now Glow is like launching her own thing. Wild stuff.

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Married to Medicine is always one of those shows where I don't always get to talk about it on the podcast just because of the schedule of how things are happening and, and frankly, what most people are keeping up with. But it is always one of my recommendations because some of the drama they have had on there, some of the, the arguments, some of the feuds are truly up there, if not above, a lot of the stuff that has happened on Housewives. Like, you, until you have watched it, you really just can't fathom some of the stuff that's happening on there. And then Ladies of London is, I think, a little bit of like a mid-tier recommendation for me. I think if you've kind of checked all the other Bravo boxes, it's not a bad thing to watch. I watched it like early pandemic. Of course, it's where Caroline Stanbury kind of got her start on Bravo. But also, there's a lot of interest.

personalities. There's, there's some like weirdos in the cast, quite frankly. They only have three seasons and there are, you know, some people that just kind of are a little bit irrelevant. They don't do reunions. It takes a little bit to get into it. I think season one is like a little rough, if I recall correctly. But it's a fun watch. It's a, it's a good binge and it's a group of, you know, rich women doing rich women things. So if that is what you're looking for, definitely ladies of London. I think it, I think it's streaming on Peacock. My other recommendation, it's a scripted show, but if you haven't seen Desperate Housewives, you've got to get on that. It's, I think, eight seasons, lots of episodes, lots of crazy things

happening. And it really was kind of the one of the original sort of inspirations for the Real Housewives franchise. So if you haven't seen it, or if you've seen it, but it's been a long time, Desperate Housewives really holds up. It's so funny. There's like kind of a bigger mystery going on every season. There's lots of like, you know, relationship drama. It gets. a little steamy, just a good time. And if you haven't seen it, I think it's one of those shows that everybody should binge sooner or later. But then the other thing I want to talk about, and this is a new show that I have not had a chance to check out yet, but I definitely will. It's coming to Hulu on September 6th, and this is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And this trailer came out last week,

and I feel like it kind of took the internet by storm a little bit. It is, I would say that this is closer. When they first announced that they were doing Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, I feel like this is what people thought it was going to be like. Because people assume that it's like, okay, so it's going to be like Mormons. And, you know, Lisa Barlow, Mormon 2.0, you know, give her her due. But this feels like a little bit more steeped in that community. And like everybody in the cast kind of comes from a similar background. And I was not a super big person. And when it came to that Mormon mom talk, the swinger community, this was like a thing that people were talking about earlier this year, last year, I don't know, that there was this group of moms that were like influencers that were all, you know, Mormon women in Utah. And then it was reported, rumored, I don't know, that they were swingers with each other, that these like four sets of couples were mixing and matching to their hearts.

content. And I don't know all the details of that, but they, even in the trailer, it is looking spicy. And so this is a show, I could see it being like a total flop, but I could also see it being like really wild television. It looks like somebody gets arrested, like maybe a DUI in the trailer. And I almost, I almost now don't want to go back and look at all the, you know, articles and stuff about these women so I can just like let the show wash over me. But that's going to be one that's on my radar coming out September 6th. So I think if it's good, I might end up talking about it a little bit. But we shall see. Moving down the list, this is a question somebody asked last time, and I didn't have time to get to it, but somebody asked, who is the rudest Bravo Lab I've met?

And also just like what I've noticed from spending time around Bravo, liberties, housewives, etc., etc. I have less horror stories than you might expect. I think something that people don't necessarily think about is that most of the time when I am meeting or spending time with people on Bravo shows, it's either in a press capacity where they're coming to the studio to do an interview or they're at an event that is something that is kind of like officially arranged. And more often than not, somebody's going to relatively be on their best behavior. You know, they might have like somebody from the network with them. They know that they're being, you know, watched and recorded and whatever. The rudest bravo lab I've met, I maybe have talked about this before.

It was at BravoCon last year, and I just, I didn't get a good vibe from Josh Flagg. It was just like, it was in the press room. They were bringing him on the carpet. He just obviously didn't want to be there. And it was not like, I didn't get berated. You know, it's not the worst celebrity interaction I've ever had. That's worse. Sally Field was very rude to me.

That's the tea. But Josh Flagg, just not my favorite. But honestly, the thing, spending time with Bravo Lebrities, a lot of, them are very similar to what you see on the show, but oftentimes even a little more down to earth. Like, I think there is an air of like when the cameras are there. They know they have to perform a little bit. And I don't necessarily mean that as like they're being fake on camera, but just that you're, you know, you're creating a television show. And you know that kind of you understand the assignment of that's what you're there to do. And I think a lot of them, when you meet them in person, they're like pretty nice, pretty normal.

pretty chill a lot of the time. Some of them higher maintenance than others. But overall, I don't have a lot of like really wild stories or like crazy moments or anything because it's just like they're real people. It is what it is. Okay. I said I wasn't going to talk about Real Housewives of New Jersey. But I guess that is technically included in this question. But somebody asked, who would you cast on a Real Housewives of Orange County legacy show? What about New Jersey? Do you think doing more legacy or girls' trips, spinoffs would be a good, alternative to reboots and franchises that need some casting shakeups. So this is like a, there's a lot of stuff kind of nestled in this question about Orange County, legacy shows, girls trips, spinoffs, reboots, et cetera. And I think every franchise is a little different when it comes to that. Like with Roney, obviously they went for the full reboot. They were planning to do something with legacy that didn't end up quite panning out. We got the girls trip. We got Crappy Lake. It seems like that's kind of all we're getting at this point, except Luann is going on that Love Hotel dating show.

Orange County, I think, is a little bit of a tricky one because when I think of an Orange County legacy, certainly they have the depth of seasons. You know, it's been on since 2006, 18 seasons. There are a lot of women that have been on Orange County, and there are some that I think are no-brainers if they were to do some kind of. of legacy show. I think Gina Keo bringing her back would be a total no-brainer for any kind of legacy thing. I love how much she is really like out of the Bravo game at this point. And so I think sort of similar to like an Alex McCord, which we're never going to get to see on the Morocco

season of girls trip, it's fun sometimes to check back in with somebody that you really haven't spent time with in a long time. Similar to that, I think Gretchen would obviously be on any kind of legacy show they would do with Orange County. She was also on the Morocco trip. As was Vicky, I think Vicky, again, no-brainer. She's the OG of the OC. And she's not a current housewife. We see her on the show sometimes, but she's not like an orange holder who is still kind of in 2024 officially a piece of the puzzle.

And that is where I think it gets tricky on Orange County. Because the thing that I feel like for legacy, you kind of have to have is like a separation from the current franchise. and with New York, they accomplished that by pulling the plug on the original cast and doing the reboot. Whereas OC right now, they're having the best season they've had in years. And people that I think would be sort of likely or even necessary pieces of an Orange County legacy are all still on the main show. And it's working with them or because of them or in spite of them maybe. But people like Tamara, Shannon, Heather, even Alexis.

Bolino, I think three years ago, if you had said we're doing OC Legacy, who should be on, Alexis would have seemed like a fun sort of like out of left field kind of choice. Tamara wasn't on the show for a few seasons. Heather hadn't come back. I think all of them would have been kind of in the mix. But now that's half the cast of current OC. So it's kind of like what does legacy even mean? Like what I definitely wouldn't want you to fire Tamara, Shannon, and Heather from OC proper so they could go do a legacy girls trip that maybe isn't even going to be that good. Now the question with that is could somebody do both? If it was a girls trip, I think maybe. If it was really in between seasons and it didn't feel like there was an expectation of the legacy girls trip to be something bigger, that could work.

I don't know. It doesn't seem like they're leaning into planning more of these kind of one-off girls trips at this point. So I don't think it's super likely to happen. But then there are also, there are other people like wild cards like Lizzie Rosveck or Peggy Tannos that I think could be fun to see one more time. But those are not like the stars. Those are not people you're going to sell a show around. You know, that's like your Kristen Takeman on Roney Legacy. Like if they need one if they need one more person to fill out the dinner table, perhaps.

Jersey, I think, is just tough because there are so many deep-seated issues, like one-on-one within the original, original and even kind of like old-timey cast. Like, Caroline and Teresa can't be in the same room together. Caroline and Dina can't be in the same room together. Danielle doesn't get along with anyone. Jacqueline and Teresa, it's like, who would, what would the group be? With Roney, whether or not you like seeing Ramona on your TV, Ramona, Sonia, Sonia, Luann, all of them still get along together.

They see each other. They hang out. Jersey is just, it's just too toxic. And for the same reason that the current cast isn't really working out anymore, the OG cast wouldn't work out any better. It's not like you can just bring back, you know, run back the playbook to 2009 and send the, the Jersey OGs on a trip together. Like, they would rip each other apart.

I mean, likewise, Melissa can't be in the same room with Teresa. So even her as a legacy person would be tricky. Kathy Wickely, maybe she can bring the family together. That's my only idea. But I don't think that these shows are likely to happen. I think maybe in five or ten years, if they're still kind of like, you know, fan hankering for those types of things.

But I don't think that this is something that Bravo is looking at seriously as like a next step for these franchises. I just don't think they want to put in the effort. And then this question, I thought this is funny. Somebody said, why are there no gay people on Summerhouse? Girl, if that isn't the question of the century, it's been, you know, season after season, it's like, oh, maybe there's, no, it's never happened. Stephen, Stephen from the first two seasons, he obviously was, you know, are gay people on Summerhouse, and he was not, he wasn't the best fit. It didn't work out.

But I think since then, I know that they've, I know that they've talked to, Queer people in the casting process. I know that that's something they've looked at. I don't know. I don't know why they've never done it. I think that Summerhouse and Vanderpump rules both kind of suffer from a similar idea that sort of a big focus of the show has always been who is hooking up with who, who, you know, if you're bringing a new guy into the house, is he single? And if he's single, then who is he going to, who is his sort of like, you know, romantic interest going to. be in the house and, you know, vice versa.

If there's a new woman, who is she going to, who is she going to have a crush on? Who's she going to talk to? Who's she going to make out with? And I do, I don't know if this is like a conscious choice or just something that kind of always creeps up in the casting process that if you cast like one, you know, gay guy or one gay woman that they're going to kind of be like the odd person out when it comes to that dynamic, which I think is a bad reason not to do it. I'll be clear that like just because, you know, if you cast a gay guy on Summerhouse,

just because he doesn't have the potential to make out with Sierra, which I mean, honestly, Sierra would probably make out with a gay guy. Who among us wouldn't? I would make out with Sierra? I don't know. Professionally, professionally. No, I wouldn't. But I just think that it's like they probably are viewing the cast as this kind of like a

of who matches up with who. And unfortunately, I think unless you're doing some sort of bigger shuffle where you're bringing in kind of this like queer group to the cast, it's always going to feel like, oh, there's the gay guy. Like, there's the lesbian. And like, I don't think that that's a great recipe for success either. I would love to see it. I would love to see just like a little bit more effort there.

I think Summerhouse, Martha's Vineyard, did a little bit of a better job of that. like, you know, it didn't feel like, it didn't feel like there was just like a gay person there to check a box. Like, it actually felt authentic to the friend group. And that being said, I mean, Stephen really is friends with like Danielle and Lindsay to this day. So I don't know. But maybe in 2026, we'll have a gay person on Summerhouse. But until then, you have a gay person on this podcast. And hopefully that's enough. But thank you so much everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you. listen. We'll be back later this week, but until next time, be cool. Don't be all like

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