Mention It All - Your Honor, She’s Broke (RHONY, RHOA Finale)
Episode Date: August 28, 2023This week, Kim Zolciak and her tragic finances are back in the news after a pair of back-to-back legal filings. Dylan breaks down the updates, and inaugurates the first Broke B*tch of the Week. Then, ...he discusses the breakdown of Drew and Ralph’s marriage on the RHOA finale, before pivoting to RHONY for an analysis of whether Erin can really be thaaaaat mad at Brynn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast.
It's another week.
We've got Roney.
We've got Atlanta season finale.
And most importantly, we have fresh news about Kim Zolsiak Bierman and Kroy and the never-ending saga that is their life.
I would get into it in just a minute.
I hope everyone had a great weekend. You know, personally, I really intended yesterday to watch
The Pass, which is Drew, Drew's acting exercise that she did with Candy and Todd that we saw on the show.
You know, all of those sex scenes and, you know, all of those days and days of, I think, 11 days of filming that they did for this movie.
You know, unfortunately, I was just not in the mood yesterday to watch The Pass.
It's now streaming on Peacock.
So TBD this week, if I find time in my busy schedule to watch this movie,
you know, perhaps I will, but I'm not making any promises.
But if you feel strongly that you do want me to watch The Pass,
I suppose let me know in a five-star review.
And perhaps I will.
This movie, I will say, it's an hour and 40 minutes long.
I like that it's short.
Drew said on the show that she wouldn't do anything below lifetime.
And I think, I would say, okay, I would say Peacock Original is a higher caliber than lifetime,
except for the fact that I don't think, I think this movie is only on Peacock because of the housewives tie-in.
I think, you know, I'll have to watch it and, you know, God, fuck, now I have to watch this movie.
I had talked to myself kind of out of watching it, and then I feel like I just talked myself back into needing to watch it.
But I guess what I mean is that I don't think that the peacock streaming home is necessarily indicative of the quality,
but rather just the brand synergy that NBC Universal likes to build.
You know, it's like when Kyle Richards is in the Peacock original Christmas movie or they like to do these things. So TBD on watching The Pass. But maybe on Wednesday or Thursday's episode, I will have changed my mind. But back to Kim and Croy. So you may have seen the news last Thursday. Kroy filed for divorce from Kim once again. We are so back. We are. We are. We. We.
We are back in Divorce Land with Kim and Croy. If you recall, they originally both filed for divorce
against each other in May of this year and then withdrew those divorce petitions in July.
So, you know, there had been a lot of reports and rumors and sources and whatnot in between those times.
But since July, things have been pretty quiet for the most part with the Zolsiak Biermans.
But last Thursday, Croy filed once.
again, and this is according to TMZ.
Quote, sources close to the estranged couple tell us
Kim and Croix had been arguing for several weeks about money
before Thursday's filing, and things had gotten, quote, nasty.
As for specifics, we're told each has been on the other's case
about not paying various bills.
They blame each other for their serious financial mess.
As one source said, they've gotten ridiculously petty over who hasn't paid bills.
They're counting down to pennies.
Oh my God, the way that
The way that these sources talk about Kim and Kroy's money issues, I feel like we're watching
like Oliver Twist, like Little Orphan Annie.
They're counting down to pennies.
They're like rubbing dimes together for heat.
God, it's bleak.
But so according to this article on Thursday morning of last week, they had gotten in another fight,
and Kroy threatened to file for divorce, and Kim dared him to do it.
And then he did.
So that's, you know, I would say just any time you're in a relationship, if you're getting to the point of an ultimatum or of daring the other person to do something, chances are the relationship is not in the healthiest place.
That's just kind of my overall impression of relationships. I've watched a lot of housewives.
but not only, not only did Croix file for divorce on Thursday, but also on Thursday, and this
maybe you haven't heard, Kim Solciak Bierman got sued by Saks and Capital One over unpaid credit
card fees. Oh boy, the money situation. It's, you know, she wants to tell us her house isn't
in foreclosure. She wants to tell us she's, you know, on a,
her rich bitch energy, whatever.
People on their rich bitch energy don't get sued over unpaid credit card bills.
Kimberly, come on.
So this is from page six.
She reportedly hadn't made payments on the bill since September 2020 when she paid $4,179.
However, since then, charges and fees have racked up to a total outstanding balance of
$156,080.
And 64 cents plus now all court costs.
That's what she's being sued for.
Oh, boy, this isn't good.
This is not good.
I'm assuming this is a SACS store credit card because it's, she was sued by Saks
in Capital One.
And I would just generally say, first of all, I've been told, I've heard, I, I'm not a
financial wizard.
by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm not sure getting the store credit card.
If you are somebody who is perhaps in a precarious financial position,
I'm not sure it's wise to have the SAC Fifth Avenue credit card.
Because, sure, maybe you get cash back at Sacks,
or maybe you get points or something.
Again, I don't know.
I've never looked into it.
But unless you are making, I would say millions of dollars,
you should not be spending $156,080 at Sacks in one year.
I just, because Sacks is not, you're not buying groceries at Sacks.
You're not getting school supplies for the kids.
You're not getting toilet paper at Saks Fifth Avenue.
If this is really an amount that she has spent at Sacks,
that is solely like shoes, bags,
clothes, perhaps a candle or an accessory, or skin care, perfume. You know, it's a department store.
They've got different, perhaps even like household items. Is sacks like a,
is sacks like a department store where you can get like kitchen wares or a bedding, perhaps?
Okay, so the $156,000, she could have outfitted, you know, much of her home, her not being foreclosed upon home.
She could, but the thing is Kimberly, $156,000, she's spending more money on this credit card than most people make in a year.
And like I said, you're not getting your toilet paper at sacks.
You're not getting your groceries.
These are all purchases that,
probably didn't need to be made.
Because anything that you're buying at Sacks, if you're actually like a broke bitch,
you could buy it a T.J. Max Mama. You could go to Walmart. You could go to Target.
Any discount retailer.
Kim has six kids. Go to Costco. Go to Sam's Club. Get that card. Work those discounts.
Do the wholesale. I don't think Kim Zosioch Beerman is in a position to be shopping at
Sacks Fifth Avenue. And to be clear, neither am I for the most part. You know, I've dabbled.
I love an overpriced candle every now and then. But, you know, I'm not at Sacks enough to think,
oh, maybe the credit card would be a good idea. I don't think she should be either. This has been the
money corner. What if I did a recurring segment where I just analyzed a different Bravo Lebs finances
every week.
I would probably get sued for libel?
Or would that be defamation?
No, I think libel.
If I was like allegedly, here's who's broke this week,
let me tell you, I don't think I would run out of material very quickly, but, you know,
I guess the broke pitch of the week is Skim Zolsiak-Beerman.
I am stressed out on her behalf to now potentially be dealing with a divorce and a credit card
lawsuit filed on the same day. That is bleak. But overall, this Kim and Kroy stuff, I need them to
shit or get off the pot. If you're getting divorced, get a divorce. If you're not, don't. But leave us
out of it. Look, was this season of Real House of Atlanta a slam dunk? No, not really. We've been over it.
But I also don't think Kim is coming back. I just don't see that being the answer. And, you know,
they're not getting another spin-off.
unless they go to like, I don't know, Zeus or Wii TV or something.
So this Kim and Croix stuff, as much as I clearly can ramble on about it for ages,
I don't really know if there's any there there.
And also the kids.
They still have little kids.
Figure it out for the kids, will you?
And leave us out of it.
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I guess I'll just talk about Real House Days of Atlanta a tiny bit now.
So they had their finale last night.
the really interesting stuff, I got to say, it's just Drew and Ralph, this scene of them going to
therapy with Dr. Ken.
So Drew's issue is that Ralph has moved out of their shared bedroom.
He didn't say anything before.
It wasn't a conversation.
It wasn't a decision they made together.
He just moved the fuck out.
Dr. Ken asks how that makes them feel.
Drew says, alone.
Ralph says liberated.
that seems, you know, the writing's on the wall, really, with this couple.
And it has been.
But, like, to see now, it's like, Drew, Drew is so deep in her mindset of, like,
wanting to make this work, or at least so she says.
And Ralph is, like, not even caring to pretend to want to think about trying.
the scene where they're at home with her sister there and Ralph is talking to or Drew's talking
to Ralph about the stuff with Courtney and calling her a bitch and XYZ and Drew's like well so we
have a problem he's like well what did she say about me and she's like babe the problem is that
I don't fuck with her because she said something about me and therefore like you also then
don't get to fuck with her and Drew is doing her job here in terms of a reality TV
narrative where it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
We need to talk about this on camera because it's a storyline on the show.
And Ralph has been on this show long enough.
And I mean, Ralph is a fucking drama queen.
Ralph eats this shit up.
When they're the thing with Dr. Ken, he's like grinning about the fact that he moved out
of the bedroom because Drew likes to keep the heat too warm.
Like, shut the fuck up.
You're a prince, like, total drama queen.
But then he acts like.
he doesn't understand the narrative that's happening with Courtney.
And then he goes down into the kitchen.
And Drew's sister is telling him that it basically doesn't matter what Courtney said,
whether or not she said bitch or banana or...
That's the example she gave on.
She could call her banana.
The problem is she doesn't like it.
Which she's right.
But also it's like, banana.
Okay.
Where's that coming from?
overall, clearly Drew and Ralph, there's nothing to do here.
There's nothing to be won or gained or anything.
But it's like, it's still tough to watch.
And in the reunion preview that came out last week, which was on the episode last night,
Ralph is there.
He comes out.
They have this little segment.
I'm not sure if Drew knew that Ralph was going to be at the reunion.
I mean, she must have, she must have, it must have occurred to her
that this might happen. She's been on the show for three seasons. But Andy asks if they still want to
try and make their relationship work. And he's like, well, of course I do, Andy. I love, I love my wife.
And she's like, you just told me you were getting blow jobs around the world. Blow jobs around the world.
I mean, sounds fun. Doesn't sound like what you should be doing if you want to focus on getting your
marriage back on track.
It just occurred to me that blowjobs around the world.
It's really reminiscent of this SNL sketch from several years ago now.
It was a music video that was like 80 Bryant and Cecily Strong.
And the song is called So Stupid if you haven't seen it.
The song is called Dongs All Over the World.
Oh, God.
Pause the episode.
Go to YouTube.
Come back in three minutes.
Dongs all over the world.
That might be a deep cut,
but I guess Ralph can relate.
Wow, what to do about these two?
I don't know.
I'm excited to see the reunion, actually.
It's only a two-parter,
which I think feels appropriate for this season.
And I'm always hopeful that when a long-running show,
gets a two-part reunion,
it can mean one of two things.
Sometimes it means that it was boring and nothing happened.
And sometimes it means that they could have gone with three parts,
but they went with the like snappier, quicker version of the edit,
and therefore there's going to be less filler.
And I'm hoping that with this season of Atlanta,
was it the best season ever?
Obviously not.
Were there things that felt like missed opportunities?
Yeah.
But I'm hoping that there was enough going on that a two-part,
a two-part reunion will actually feel appropriate and like a good, a good pace on it.
We'll see.
Remains to be seen.
Sonia, notably, doesn't utter a single word in the reunion trailer,
which seems like a bad sign for her.
Overall, I've liked seeing Sonia on the show these couple of seasons.
I think she's been really open about her family stuff.
I think that's been interesting.
She's had some good moments with the ladies, but it does feel like after her second season,
she still feels kind of like the new girl in the group in a way, which, I mean, on paper she is,
but you shouldn't be thinking about it after two seasons.
and I do wonder, you know, we talked about after this season if they feel, if they'll feel like
they need to do a little bit more of a switchup. And I feel like it's not a great sign for Sonia
if she's sort of still struggling to get in a word at the reunion on her second season. And we'll see. I mean,
she's, she is pregnant again. She's going to have another kid. So that could be something interesting.
but also that could be a reason why she maybe takes a step back.
It could go both ways.
And also, she still stays busy with her commentating work for NBC for track and field.
The track and field world championships just ended yesterday, I think.
And if you watch any of the clips, if you listen to anything, she's on there.
She's calling these races.
She's doing a great job.
So, you know, if she's having this baby and she feels like she needs time, it almost might be.
a good thing for her to take a step back or even she could be a friend of she could be a guest i don't i don't
dislike having her around but i do you just kind of have to wonder is there enough space to
keep everyone but then to also do something new and i i don't necessarily know that anybody else in
the cast really makes sense to get rid of at this point so it's a tricky it's a tricky equation
but I, we'll see after the reunion.
We'll see, we'll see. Time will tell.
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I suppose we should talk about Rony.
We got the mid-season trailer the other day.
It looks great.
I'm so excited to see these women go on a proper trip to Anguilla.
That I think is going to be fun.
We're seeing Sai and Bryn fighting in the trailer.
We're seeing Aaron and Uba fighting in the trailer.
We're seeing, you know, more.
of Jessel just not giving a fuck, doing whatever she wants.
We're seeing, I mean, Jenna being Jenna.
This was a good Jenna episode.
I liked seeing her love scene, casting, explaining that her real birth name is Judith.
Judith Agar Lyons.
It makes a lot of sense.
You know, it's like I would never look at her.
her and go, I bet her name is Judith. But once you know it, it's like, yeah, yeah, that makes
sense. Judith, it kind of, it kind of clicks. But her, the fact that Jenna came from her brother
teasing her and calling her Jenna, Jenna, Jenna Talia. Oh my God. That's a, that is a, that is a, that
changes the way you look at someone.
When you find out that the name that they have always, you know, been known by is
genitalia.
That's not what I would have expected.
We are, of course, in the wake of Aaron and Abe's anniversary party where the women
were, you know, wildly inappropriate talking during the speeches.
Seeing them at home.
And Aaron's like, oh, yeah.
You know, I've been getting texts from everyone.
My phone's been blowing up.
People saying how fun the party was, how good the food was, sigh.
I don't know if I believe that Aaron's phone was blowing up with texts about how good the food was at this party.
I just think if somebody had a good party, you know, it was a beautiful event.
Maybe there was more food there than sigh led us to believe.
But still, the most it was, it was hors d'oeuvres, past plates.
Looking at that event, I don't think anybody would text about the food.
You would say the venue was gorgeous.
The decor was stunning.
Aaron looked beautiful.
The speeches were lovely.
The vows were so nice.
The food.
Maybe, I mean, maybe somebody,
mentioned the food. I don't think her phone was blowing up with texts about the food. That sounds
unrealistic. But, you know, the bigger issue is the lady's behavior. Of course, Aaron's sister Kelly
snitched about them talking during the vows. We'll come back to Kelly later. Abe is telling
her about the joke that Bryn made about getting out of the marriage and how they're not, you know,
if she gets divorced. And Abe is laughing about it. Aaron is so disgusted. She says she doesn't know how she'll
in the same room as her. It's, it's a little bit, I do feel, I saw it, I think it was Alex
a Bad Santos tweeted how Aaron is like such a good housewife. Like, she clearly is so prepared for
this and really did her homework and knows kind of what to do on housewives, but that she can't,
the thing that she seems to be lacking is the ability to kind of laugh at herself and not take
things too seriously. And I feel like this situation with Bryn is kind of showcasing that,
that she doesn't have that kind of innate sense of letting things roll off her back,
that it's like, is this something that's worth bringing up? Sure. We need storylines. We need
conflict. I'm here for it. But is this something that's worth like screaming at Bryn about and
then storming out of her wreath decorating thing and then calling your sister on the street and
you know commiserating about how brin is such a bitch i don't i don't think it's that deep
i think i mean i think it was totally in the realm of whatever to be like hey i don't really
think it was cool uh you know that event was really special for us we we can laugh and make jokes
but, you know, talking about divorce at my vow, not vow renewal, it's not a vow renewal.
I guess they just said vows at an anniversary party.
Like, it was a little too far.
And Bryn is kind of, I think Bryn gets that.
Brin's not like horrified that Aaron said anything.
I think it's that Aaron feels like she's at a 10.
And Bryn is just like, babe, it's not that deep.
And this is a, you know, I think it's something that on Housewives, you kind of have to figure out the calculation of,
how he did to get about individual scenarios where it's like, okay, this is something that is worth
arguing about, it's worth whatever, but for Aaron to come into this wreath decorating thing and
say, I want to return the favor and ruin Brin's party. Brin didn't ruin your party.
You wouldn't have even known about anything that was happening with Brin at that party unless
your snitch sister and your snitch husband told you about it.
more more more more more more more more more more more than this niche sister i don't think abe did anything wrong
except laughing at her jokes
the fact that everyone who's like oh no abe thought it was funny
and erin's like well don't fucking care i don't fucking care if my husband thought it was funny
i didn't think it was funny and it's like you didn't know oh people are so dramatic it's like
your event was not ruined you had a perfectly lovely evening when she's talking about going
Dominican with her cousins. And Aaron's like, well, actually, you would have met the cousin if you
stayed. Or if you shut the fuck up when they were giving a speech. It's like, oh, my God. The speeches
were a lot. If somebody went up there with multiple typed pages for a speech, like, no. No.
Nobody even wants that at the wedding, let alone at the 10-year anniversary party. I don't know.
Aaron's also mad at sigh for leaving early and, you know, not saying goodbye. She says she has bad manners
and that she's like obsessed with being hungry, which it's not not true.
I don't know.
I feel like that's another thing where Sai feels like it's kind of like her like schick,
her thing to be the one who's like constantly talking about food.
And it's like, right.
Like we like housewives that eat.
We like kind of like a running bit.
But also it's like Brin's wreath decorating thing was in the middle of the day.
And she had food there.
And you're complaining because she doesn't have oatmeal.
and she's like, who wants to eat fried food for breakfast?
It's like, well, well, me.
I love like a chicken and waffle, a hash brown,
even like a breakfast sandwich or breakfast pizza.
Like, the fact that she has food from Bubbies, which is good,
like it's good brunch food.
And Cy acts like it's this like tragedy that it's not exactly what she would have chosen
to eat for herself.
It's like that is kind of like, you know, grow up a little bit.
But talking about the Aaron's thing when she's like, well, maybe you should have eaten before.
It's like, babe, you said everyone who is texting you about the food.
Like, clearly the food was part of the event or was supposed to be.
Suffice it to say, I thought this was a good episode, even if I seemed to be annoyed at all the conflicts that are happening.
My favorite part of the episode, though, was probably the scenes with Jessel.
First, we see her dinner with Pavit.
when they're walking to this restaurant, they're at Kiva in Hudson Yards, which is like, God, why?
But he's like, it's a really cool little area.
And Jessa goes, this area?
She's so fucking funny.
I can't get enough of her.
You know, she's complaining that she thought while her mom was staying with them that she would be helping more.
But instead, she's sleeping into like 8 a.m.
What the fuck is that?
And we get the footage of her reminding her to wipe the fingerprints off the counter.
It's like, oh, my God.
she is so, so entertaining to me.
But she feels like she's wearing 100 hats now with the babies and going back to work and having to, you know, look gorgeous on all her Zoom calls, which I totally understand.
You know, I also put a lot of effort into my appearance for all of my Zoom calls.
So, yeah, I get it when you're, when you're, you know, spending hours in a glam chair just so on a 30-minute touch base, you're, you know, I can't even say this with this.
straight face. I'm like, no, I've never once like,
tried to look nice. You know what was rough?
Earlier in the pandemic, when we would have housewives and Bravo
Lebrides on this podcast and everything was over Zoom.
And I was just trying not to look like a sweaty mess on Zoom because I would
have to turn off my air conditioning because it was too loud for the microphone.
And I'm, you know, situating my computer just.
so in my apartment so it doesn't look like nasty in the background. Not that nasty, but like
messy. And then you get on Zoom with like Doreet Kemsley who's in her like air-conditioned
paradise of a shoe closet looking perfect, full glam. And like that is humbling. So maybe that's
what Jusel, you know, is dealing with every day. I get it. It's tough. But she really wants to
have this third baby and Pavit does not seem to be on board. I have a feeling this will change.
I think this is one of those storylines where it's like, it's a good storyline. If they want to
have another kid, they'll have another kid and that's fine either way. But the really tough thing is
that she never told her parents that she did IVF. And, you know, it's partly a cultural thing that
people, you know, gossip and it's frowned upon when you can't have a baby and all of this stuff.
And, you know, he wants her to tell her mom and she says that she will, but, you know, he wants her to tell her mom.
and she says that she will, but she has to figure out her PR spin.
It's like, yeah.
But the scene with her and her mom ends up being really, really lovely
because obviously it's emotional for her mom to realize
that she's been carrying this burden and didn't feel like it was something that she could
talk to her about sooner.
But also it's like she understands.
And I think that was what made it so.
lovely is that her mom was, she was upset that she hadn't been there for her, but then also she was,
you know, happy to be more involved in getting this information. And it feels like this is the
kind of thing that's actually going to make Jessel feel more supported and more comfortable with
these types of things moving forward. And I think that's what she needs. In terms of the kids and
the fertility stuff, it just feels like she needs a little more support. And I'm, I'm happy now that
if she's choosing to go through this journey again, that her mom will be able to be more of an
active participant. I think that's lovely. But anyway, that's all I have for today. Until next time,
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