MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - Bring Back Mediocrity w/ Zack Fox

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

In this spontaneous, hilariously chaotic episode, Sydnee and Marie drag people who can't walk on sidewalks, debate the merits of Drake's abs, and roast public figures. Special guest Zack Fox joins the fun, opining on plastic surgery and riffing about New York's need to start over. Don’t forget to write in your messy stories at [e-mail], or call in at [phone] to have your MESSages read live on air! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

you listening to mess okay okay we we are in the building we are in the stew the stew are not on a not on a regular day but we have to do an emergency episode emergency session yes immediately it was like hey this person is in town i don't care what you're doing we're gonna make it happen i'm gonna put on my reshades i canceled several doctor's appointments go ahead okay let's just bring him in he's great we love him you're gonna love him and you already know who it is you're in for a cute little treat it's zach fox hey zachariah hello zachariah fox arena how you doing i feel great my brother in christ yes yes now we start every episode we talk about something that was messy that happened in our lives this week um so we just gonna start and

if you have thoughts and opinions about it obviously you know okay sydney do you have mess for us this week bring it in um i'm i'm tired of people walking on the sidewalk they don't know how to do it they just walking on the sidewalk it's like hey if you want a diddy did no not did you want a dilly dally okay go to the park the sidewalk we are transportation we have point a to point b we got places to go people who are on their phone like this walking on the left on the right you have to get in the street you gotta get hit by a car i'm literally trying to get to the pod you think they people that just have not experienced getting hit by a car so they don't appreciate what they got i never said that now how do you feel about bikes on the sidewalk oh they

gotta go too right but they're moving they're moving they're moving no they're in the way you first of all you're on a city bike also mess this city bike they are so doofy they're so they're big as this yeah and they look like vcrs and they're they're they're the reason why there's so many accidents in the city i think uh you know if you're gonna walk slow on the sidewalk that's it's your decision but i do think as a penalty someone should be able to walk up behind you grab the back of your head and say michael jordan real loud i don't know about that yeah just to keep the ecosystem moving there's got to be some type of something that might creep up behind you yes they're not scared of anything i i don't i don't mind slow walkers i don't like

the girls or the people who walk abreast is that the word they walk with paper dolls they like paper dolls they're holding hands i don't like that especially if you come in toward me and you see me i'm not stepping off the sidewalk for you yeah you gotta get you gotta follow the leader babe i shoulder checked the lady yesterday single file line and if you and a couple and y'all holding hands y'all taking up the whole sidewalk i'm karate chopping your hands apart get out of here like you just yeah karate chopping through your love red rover um right we were a rover also what's also messed this happened um on the plane the couples the families that they didn't get their seats together hey babe you're gonna have to see them when you get there yeah you'll

see them in paris you you live with them you see them every day so now you got to sit with them So now I have to get up from my upgraded seat because now you want your son to sit next to you. I don't know him. Get off his dick. Right. Let him live. That's weird.

Literally get off his dick. Get off his dick. Let him be on his phone. Let him chill. Why do he need to be up on you? Get off y'all kids' dicks. Well, there was a lady.

They gonna be all right. There was a lady that, um, her video went viral recently. She, uh, wouldn't give her window seat up to some crying child. And,

um, she paid for the seat. and somebody video recorded her the video took off she sued the airline and the person who videotaped her good yeah whoa yeah y'all saw that fight on the on the plane which one was the spirit it was a i don't know what it was it probably was it might have been frontier united getting lit now i think you should be able to fight on planes and then if you win you fly for free absolutely you get miles if you lose you get you get miles fight club in the air no man i think you get the fight on a it's like international like how it looks like international waters right so it's in

the air it don't count what were they fighting about i don't even know it was funny though who was it uh it was a black dude beating up some dude and i'm just gonna be on his side yes because i'm yeah i'm biased and negative rooting for everybody black yeah absolutely but i was like man that dude he needs some you know i think you should be able to skip the line but the thing is is that people fight dirty so that's why I don't want it in the air I feel like dirty fighting

is for the ground in the air I mean you have to you gotta look like Taekwondo what's fighting dirty sis brass knuckles like what is fighting dirty

to you fighting dirty we open it up to the emergency door ain't nobody got no gun ain't nobody got no box cutter right so that's where you should

get out your aggression is on the plane cause you know they not box cutter well I mean y'all in New York that's

I'm just it's not box cutter it's razors yeah I'm just saying But I'm saying that's that's that's what they're looking for in the shoes now, because that's what Buddy had when he flew into y'all shit. Also, I heard. Thank you for bringing that back. Never forget. But they said that I think starting next month, we don't have to take our shoes off when we fly anymore.

Whoa. So what the fuck do I have a pre-check for? Well, so you can skip the people who are poor. It was always classism, Sydney. You knew it was. It was always classism, but that's why I got pre-checked. Yeah. And now we're all just keeping our shoes on. That's what I thought. Yeah.

I was elevated. And everybody can get in the Soho house. This is true. There's a correlation. There's a correlation from keeping your shoes on the airport to the Soho house. The country's collapsing. It's going to be one flat line. Yeah.

But there's mad members only clubs besides Soho house. Like what? The Ned, Bond Street. She got money. You don't know? I'm not in none of those. She got money. That's great.

I've never heard of none of those. Those are in New York. I don't know what L.A. members-only situations are, but I'm sure there's... Bohemian Grove. Okay. That's the only one I can think of. I don't know. Chateau Marmont.

The Illuminati. Yes, that is. The Illuminati. Scientology Center. Yep. Hollywood. I haven't seen a Scientology Center here at all. There's one on, like, in Times Square.

Oh, I don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, but there's one right over there. Well, they got a fight with the black Israelites for control here. Can we bring them back? That's honestly why L.A. got such a strong Scientology stronghold is because there was not black Israelites there to disagree with them. I love the black Israelites because let me tell you, they have time. They're unemployed.

Fits are always trash, but they can talk. They do not stop. So I have not walked past a black Israel not speaking. They're talking and they know how to do their good host. Good, good lung control. Good diaphragm. Yeah. Breath work is impeccable.

Yeah. Oh, you a woman with pants on? So who going to be the man? Whoa. You know what? You're right, sir. Let me get my skirt on. I have it in my purse right now.

Yeah, you're not winning an argument with that guy. Nah. Yeah. Yeah. Marie, what was your mess this week? I don't think. I just want to. Deodorant.

Okay, my mess is my friend did not wear deodorant to the pod. Good. That's what my mess is. She was too busy filling up that. That jug. That cousin-sized water bottle. I'm still at it, guys. 38 days later.

Have you named this thing yet? That's my son. Yeah, but he should have a name. I don't have a name for him. Skeeter. Untitled. Skeeter and Sid. No, Untitled Project.

That's his name. Cousin Skeeter, babe. I just want to update everybody on what's happening with my building. Because, you know, famously, my landlord is trying to raise my neighbor's rent 70%. And so I guess my mess is that I joined the board for the Tenants Association for my building. You're part of the problem. How am I part of the problem? Well, because then you tell me who's all on the board.

it's all white people yeah but that's who lives in my building so she's part of the problem for getting them in the building okay you know the chicken or the egg right all the white people who live in my building that's dei you know i um all my people who live in brooklyn now dei okay unless you're a russian or a hasidic jewish person because everybody else you was a diversity hire exactly yeah yeah so um you know they they sent a letter to her and she retained an attorney who turns out to be you know, we talked about it on the Patreon but she

I was talking to Carolina and Sydney and they were like, well, why did you sign the letter Marie? Like maybe she wasn't going to raise your rent. She never reached out to you Marie and I asked you, I said, have you heard from her? Have you heard from Sydney? The mess here is that you did not, while all this was happening I was keeping you abreast. Yes.

And never once were you like, hey sis sit this one out. Back it down. Never once. The letter was signed sealed, delivered. Now she's like, oh well No, no, no, Marie, that's not fair. I said, well, did she reach out to you? She said, she's never reached out to me yet. She's only reached out to me.

And then what was your response? Was it, don't sign the letter? Well, you had already signed the letter. But the next time I spoke to you, like, hey, they already put it. That's how crazy the people in her building are. The way it takes me and Marie to even form an email. By the time I spoke to her, they already had a board together. They already wrote.

They picked a logo for it. I'm like, you showed me the logo. I said, who are these people? Mind you, the logo, Black Fist. No way. No, no, no. Black Fist. You're lying.

You're lying. Show me this right now. Black Fist. I'll show you right now. Do they have interns? How did they all do this? I guess they work from home. They got standing desks.

I told Marie before you got here, if there's one thing white people are going to be good at, it's declaring independence from other white people and roping you into it. Which is crazy. They declare their independence from the whites, but they control all the blacks and browns. wait so is the implication that she was she might not have been raising specifically your rent because she is a fan of your comedy well allegedly she had originally raised your neighbor's rent she raised the people downstairs and the people upstairs and the people next door and he asked you how much and you were like oh but my but my lease she did bring my rent up my rent went up

this year oh for how much sydney it went up she didn't bring it up 70 but it went up it's more than what i how much money you got i think it was like 50 dollars no sydney you asking me how much it was more than 50 okay okay but it it's up yeah i've been there for five years my lease is up in october so she was gonna let me know she was gonna bring it up you know within 90 days of me leaving but anyway so i live there now and i saw her in the lobby the other day and she did not speak to me i said hey girl and she fully paid me dust whoa so she mad at me she feels betrayed that you joined the the black fist white union isn't she haitian too marie no she's trinidadian she's a trinny landlord she's a trinny lady and the other mess is i'm super confused now

oh why is that because you thought it was a white person i did it's a black lady so she really not you know she more your kin than mine okay okay so she okay i get it now what did you get please break it down to us yeah so she like i was gonna raise all these white folks rent and all you had to do was be quiet and i was gonna keep yours at an agreeable level i haven't said anything but you joined the brotherhood of the black you judas she doesn't like me anyway why you're so likable marie i don't know one person that doesn't like you you don't have any evidence that she don't like me no you don't i'll show you some besides besides her being a caribbean and naturally mean oh now and you can be and then

you can get in there you can get in there overall yeah that is your ilk yeah she just um so she didn't speak to me and um then had people painting our fire escapes for some reason and didn't notify anybody in the building i don't have um a curtain in my bedroom so i just woke up it was just some man on the fire escape looking at my titties i said whoa now i definitely need a rent you decrease because what is this it's only fans and he need to pay girl he's not even painting he's just looking okay wow well what position were you in i sleep on my back so it's You know the meme of Marge Simpson and her boobs? She's on the couch and she's drooling.

That was me. That was Marge Simpson, Faustine. Okay, now we get into your mess, Zach. I mean, we tried to figure out what you wanted to do, but I think it's going to be a compilation. So start off first with your mess while you're here. Yeah, tell us what you think is messy. What's messed to you?

Just in the world in general right now, i think it's a mess that folks is making fun of drake abs bro i think y'all need to leave it alone whoa i think we need to back you attacking me personally i'm not but i mean hey hit dogs you know i didn't even know that you had a negative opinion on this video about it i did a whole reel about his abs well okay what was the bullet point it looks like um the arms weren't included because it just the abs were done not even the obliques just all right look i can agree on some level that it does look like he swallowed six google homes but other than that i think we gotta lay up off man getting the plastic surgery and then us making fun of it that that's got to

be neutral territory hold on hold your body done got to be neutral hold on work is bad we should be able to judge it no no no no if we if the work is bad no if you went to mexico and you used the groupon to get your plastic surgery done we should be allowed to be like hey the nose is given whoville if if we can't talk about bbl smell then everybody gotta they do but the thing is as somebody who's a part of the plastic surgery community community right i think if anything we should be dragging the doctors the doctors did a bad job okay i came in i said hey i'm a canvas do what you do lay your hands on me and if you are a bad painter that shouldn't be on me that's fair right and but not the person who went in and got and bought a service now drake has enough money to get a good

they are canvas drake is worth 250 million dollars you telling me you couldn't get top of the top shelf delete plastic surgery work we've been getting berated for so long for this type of work that the technology hasn't even caught up to what your net worth can be no no i think the doctors are hairline hairline technology just got where it is you know what i'm saying like yesterday yeah but that's because men didn't want to wear lace fronts we've been had that technology no no but they're doing lace fronts too they're doing the gluing on the lace they're peeling it back but like pull up to the scene with a ceiling listen the way that they in my opinion what drake has done to his body with his net worth is conservative i agree i agree and i had that

kind of money i'm going buck wild on my shit you're turning yourself into what incredible hulk the thing from fantastic johnny bravo i might pull up with eight dicks on y'all i might pull up i might pull up with you an octopus extra dicks eight dicks but how many knees i might look like a new york subway turnstile when i pull up and you know what just you do that just because you do that because that's the money i got the money why shouldn't he be able to go let's talk but wow let's please let's break this down eight dicks what's the what's the materials what's the what's the fabric i'm gonna have a teflon one a corduroy one i'm gonna have uh one that's made of pure obsidian volcanic rock oh yeah okay yeah i'm going crazy i love that you know all these

different materials yeah corduroy i mean if you don't name eight materials as a man you should deserve to get eight dicks that's what i'm saying let's see if between the two of us we can name eight materials um okay so sequins silk that that's a that's a it's a thing okay okay okay but i said silk you said silk that we're going real periodic table with this material okay we got to i need some mineral a fabric a textile a textile a textile they could think of stuff that people used to go to war for okay cement okay all right and this this this brings me to my next breath wait wait wait wait asphalt wait almost yeah yeah i think that's come on i think that's a material that's a material asphalt yeah yeah cement probably too somebody gonna correct

you said go to war for and sydney screams cement what was going on okay you go to work for oil but you don't want dick as an oil i mean oil is a dick oily dick you don't know me you don't know if i'm drake i might get a i might get a petroleum penis you don't know you don't know we got vaseline we do we do you have that wait i wanted to say this okay so drake's abs is a sign of trying it's progress it's progress because before we we would be upset about men looking like an empty pillowcase right on these on these yachts right and on these you know going on these trips with these girls looking like a blobfish and then now they're making the progress to get there and it's still met with right now i do understand that there are many shades of misogyny that come with

this yes it is homophobia women were the first victims of all this but i think if we're gonna get to that neutral ground i think we need to do a 365 day pause on making fun of men for getting a plastic surgery done just we are gonna still make you men you lost me you can make for our actions for our stupidity for your for tearing apart for your face existence but yeah for the default for the default man you can make fun but right anything above that any upgrades that they get any attachments any downloadable content that they get you gotta you gotta leave it alone if anything because we want the freedom of women to be able to get the play i'm from atlanta you're not really even from atlanta if you ain't bought nobody a bbl homegrown you're not

from atlanta if you didn't buy nobody a bbl absolutely that's you heard it here first that's merch we putting that on tote bags i want i i do i need to move to la now i mean not la atlanta if you would like a a bbl as a as a hello as a hello that's what we're doing in atlanta yeah as just as just a hey i would like to continue speaking to you zach how many bbls have you paid for zero i'm not so you're not really from atlanta this is a christian you're You're from right outside. Yeah, I'm from, yeah. Savannah.

Yeah, I'm from Gwinnett County. I'm from Gwinnett County, yeah. Okay, so wait. Do you know any guys have gotten any plastic surgery that you were like, I know some fellas who got some stuff done. What did they get done? And I'm not going to say. Oh, come on.

It sounds like they flew to Turkey. I know some hairline people, okay? I know some hairline people. But the lengths that they had to go to hide the hairline healing process is very indicative of the climate, the hostile climate around what would have done if you just, look, man, I think you should be able to go get your hairline, show up, just blood on the head, red carpet, bloody head. Sorry, if it looks like you have dots of pencil dots all over and blood is dripping down your forehead, no. Now dab me up now. Dab you up? Dab me up.

Don't have me dripping. You know what that means? Bring back the handkerchief. Yeah. Bring back that little thing that you, we need a pocket square. Pocket square. The T.D. Jakes preacher towel and you just dab up a little bit of blood. The Def Jam comedy rag.

Yeah, all of this shame around it. Heal in public. But I also will say this. The male hairline hair surgery thing, that's the new BBL. For the men. Because they really, they doing that now. Good for them. They showing up bald and then coming back with the little spots.

And then, you know, for the summer they have bangs. So I'm really not mad at that. And I got my own preferences around that and the whole conversation. But I do think everybody should be able to just go do it and then not be met with the shame in the actual idea of doing it. Now, if it looks bad, call up Turkey, okay? Hit up Turkey. Get that guy out of the bank. I think if someone has a bad surgery, if we have an issue with the way it looks, we all need to chip in.

Chip in? In this economy? And help them. Yeah. Because look at it. Hold on. Men's mental health. Wait.

Oh, no. Come on, man. You lost me. Now y'all don't care. So now y'all don't care. we're eight days into after men's mental health month

we don't even get our own month we gotta we gotta share it with Pride y'all are the cause of everybody's mental health issues we know that though

okay so what you need a month for just a cool little 30 days it's the toxicity you guys have to work on your toxicity and maybe

you would need men's mental health month I do think that I do think that men need to stop being misogynist stop being homophobic so that we

can focus on how homophobic and misogynist all the other groups of people are also what are these other groups everybody in the world has changes but we but men i don't mean me specific but my brethren my brothers right are so bad with that stuff that it's like okay well you gotta stop first like men gotta stop first yeah but then we could talk about how uh women in atlanta are also homophobic and biphobic but we can't get to that but we can't get to that they've been through some things the women in atlanta though fair enough well yes one didn't you guys say there was a list of like a list of like if you do this as a man this is gay isn't there like a trending there's a massive

there's a list that women have crafted and there's a list of things that men have said to women that they've dated that's also what's on what's some of the things on the list um wiping your ass is gay from the men's side from the men the men have said and then on the women's side uh using the umbrella in the rain is gay is gay is well i mean if the umbrella is one of them like if it's the umbrella that sits on your head you know what i'm talking about if it's that it's a little bit gay what color is the umbrella is it clear yeah is it one of them like u-shaped umbrellas that like kind of drip on your butt a little bit it's a little bit gay no you're right okay what else is on the list i mean i mean the list is massive uh laughing too hard at another

man's jokes was on the on the women's one that was that was that was some of the jokes don't be that funny fair enough fair enough and we're seeing the we're seeing that little dangly thing in the back of your throat yeah come on the uvula craig is not that funny okay yeah okay there's a lot of things on the list that people think are gay or they've dated think are gay but i don't know i think do what you want to do and um i think caring what a man thinks more than what your girl thinks is more that is the only gay thing that's gay that's the only thing yeah having butt sex with a man and also caring more about what men think than what you i think is hold on i think that's the only thing having sex with a man as a man is the only gay i don't you know it's straight

dudes that have butt sex and that's why i think it's not gay why are you guys looking at each Like, this is crazy. Because I'm 20. I'm just doing math right now. I'm just telling you what I've heard. I think if, like, they don't identify as gay. That's fair. But they do it.

I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to stay in solidarity. Yeah. Because women do have a lot of free reign to experiment sexually and then not, and then be like, actually, no, I'm not that though. Can we talk about sex? Is that fair enough? Can we talk about sex though? I think that's fair. I think if you do it one time, that doesn't make you gay.

I think if you do it three times in a row, that might make it kind of gay. On either side, lesbian or... What if it's three times, but it's once a year? Is that gay? That's tough. I'll say this. I think if you smoke crack one time, you are not a crackhead. You are not a crackhead.

If you smoke crack three times in all of 2025, but it wasn't back to back, you're not a crackhead. I agree. I agree. Because I didn't become a coke head until I was constantly doing coke. Come on. And the drug dealers was like, no more. No more. They didn't even want my money.

Yes. They didn't want your money? Oh, yeah. The reason why I got fired at Riff Raffs is because the drug dealer didn't come. When I told him, it was midnight. I was like, bro, I need you back. I think it's the same thing. He did not show up.

I think if you were our dude and you fucking up dudes, they're like, hey, dude. Hey, you're cut off. Hey, you've been at it since this fucking day. Get away from us. Somebody doing exorcism on this guy. But I just feel like we should talk about sex real quick since we here while I have y'all. what you do with somebody else doesn't like you don't have to involve other people in it like why do people care so much who you're sleeping with where you putting it what you doing with it how

long you sat on it like you know how many times how many times did you bounce on unless you put it on how many fans like no one is gonna see that you did it unless they really care if they're getting involved with you and that's the thing when you were talking about the women in atlanta it's like the homophobia is is a sandwich of other things of like hey you can be gay right but you have to let the person know that you're dating hey i'm also sleeping with men if you're lying about it then you're confused then you're starting their shame and then the woman is like well let me I don't know

is he looking at me is he looking at her is he looking at him that's why I would completely agree that the homophobia or the biphobia coming from women

who have experienced that it's reactionary that doesn't make it right it doesn't make it right but it is reactionary but there's a reason why they're acting like that yeah

but then it would be the same thing as if you got robbed by a black person one time oh okay come on okay

come on one time one time is that valid for you to be like well now I'm scared of black people just period but if you got robbed three times and everybody was black same week come on three times

in the same i would hate i hate niggas too you know i think about that i hate them too god damn i hate you no i hate you jody i hate you oh my god i think about that sometimes i think about that sometimes because like there'll be like a baby on the train or like walking slow in front of me and i'd be like if i yell at this kid or i michael jordan the back of their head that will ruin black people for this child for the rest of their life yeah yeah i could be the one the one yeah so i usually just kind of slide them out of the way with my foot but i don't i don't kick them yeah it does it does because you sometimes we are the example of your you know whatever group you're in sure but i think in order for people to figure themselves out they got to make these

mistakes in private and in public and that should determine on something yeah everybody yeah i mean like when i'm on stage and i talk my shit they're like oh you know but that other black gay women might follow you or look up to i'm like then that's on their own accord i still gotta be me yeah i still what you be saying about black gay women sis oh no no i don't say anything about them but you know i've told stories about me you know kissing my cousin and you know doing drugs and stealing and I think that's just I think I think respectability in general has to be dealt with that's mess and that is mess and just we gotta get rid of that idea entirely excellence for anybody's community like aspiring to excellence is corny it is corny I think it's

corny and it's mess mediocrity we should media negativity I want that well I mean not necessarily negativity just being bad orlando orlando brown oh i knew you were gonna go there i knew you were gonna go there same same i knew you were gonna go there now same now why i feel like denzel could do the disney channel could orlando brown do flight do john q he could do flight hit you john q absolutely absolutely i honestly think orlando brown could do othello too he could do othello he could do fences man I go down Orlando Brown

in Training Day y'all watch y'all motherfucking mind y'all don't think that's a good movie in Training Day he's crazy unfortunately

he didn't come and his jaw's moving the whole time ain't got nothing what line oh no no no he be like no no no

I got it I got it I got it he wouldn't even say line he be like no no no I got it Orlando Brown in flight

as a drunk pilot yeah I mean I can see that please come on that's actually easy i actually was on his side during baddies like what happened with him on bad he was on baddies he was on the news network that's how he with rasby is that they put him with a coven of gay men oh that's what you're saying what that all those guys were gay they were not he was with the i'm not gay no more guy who was still gay okay he was with rasby who is

not gay. Oh, okay. Well, never mind. He was abused. Oh, okay. Sorry, I didn't know. He's not gay. Okay.

He didn't come out as gay. Okay. Sidney is our gay judge. I am the gay delegate. But you see how I'm still battling with my, because a nigga named Raspberry,

to me, I'm like, that do feel, that feel a little how you doing. But that's homophobia. That's not, that is, that's ascribing

certain things to be a feminine thing I'm like oh he's raspberry now how do you feel about Omarion's body his natural body he's taking his shirt off

and people saying he has B-cups on stage they're saying he needs a brassiere how you feel about that they're saying this about Omarion bro

they said touch a shirt man okay I'm gonna backtrack to something yes excellence and respectability

we got to get rid of that but we gotta as black folks bro we are so mean to our legends dog we legend you say we or marion is a legend okay maybe not even legend but let's let's let's put put it side by side with somebody else in the white community bro mick jagger picture okay look like a lobster with no shell on it soft shell lobster my boy has been melting for decades and white people don't say nothing yeah he's an open face lobster my boy got the worst build of all time like my boy got an elden ring monster build like a dungeon character like gravity is doing he is whooping his ass please whoever's editing this please include a photo of mick Mick Jagger, like, today.

My boy Mick Jagger looked like the devil yanking the skin down, trying to get him to come to hell, but he can only grab the skin. So the skin coming off, but his body. Mick Jagger's so talented that he's standing strong, but the skin is being ripped down. You're saying Mick Jagger and Omarion are on the same level? No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

You said legend. I'm saying even the people that are 2000s legends our 90s ones Genuine Bro we Genuine Genuine We be treating these people

like dirt No we don't Sometimes you gotta wrap it up Sometimes you gotta end on a high note Genuine can't wrap it up cause if Genuine

wrap it up can't nobody else sing right now That's not Who is singing? Are you on drugs right now? Who is singing right now?

Are you on drugs right now? Name me a new male singer that y'all fuck with I gotta scroll down through my You can't even say one You can't even say one

Gibby on. Gibby on. Yeah. Gibby on. Stuck on you? What's the guy? I need a dollar, dollar. Is he from today?

I feel like from the 1800s. That is 2000s Urban Outfitters music. You know it. He's not? He's not a singer. That's a commercial song. Okay, let me go through my Spotify. Hold on one second.

Y'all can't name a man singer that y'all like after 9-11. She just named one. I just named one. She don't even know his name. Gibby on. Gibby on. okay hold on wait wait everybody i have some hold on i have some saved so larry larry june he's a rapper that's a rapper so sans okay sans you being a gay woman

odell is good you getting cracked odell yes sans you being sans you being or gay or whatever you getting cracked to that you getting cracked to give me on yes absolutely wait hold on hold on duran bernard don toliver y'all can't take don toliver y'all can't take duran man why can't we have him don toliver that's a rapper who sings sometimes he sings he's a rapper y'all gonna sit here and put i love fuck with don toliver bro i love that but y'all gonna put don toliver in the same category as genuine and omarion this why chris brown this That's why our community.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's canceled. You don't censor that. Usher, Raymond. They're going to bleep that. Redacted. Yeah, no, I don't want that. I'm not standing by her on that.

Sir. Sir is really good. Sir is fire. Sir is fire, yeah. That's the one, that's the only person you were like, yeah. All I'm trying to illustrate is that we had a pantheon. We had a whole slew of very talented male singers in the 90s and the 2000s. CeeLo Green.

Duran for NAR. I said that. She already said that. Duran Bernard is the best. I literally just said that. Did you whisper it? Y'all recycling names. I said it into the mic?

You're recycling names. We have names. It doesn't matter. What point were you trying to prove? That we don't have no singers? That if we, our generation, if the younger generation see us disrespecting our, maybe not legends, but our powerhouses, then we have no base to stand on culturally. It is a lot of women in here.

I got so many women. I just feel like a lot of these white folks, they let their singers look like absolute dogs. Well, we let Genuine fall through a stage. Yeah, we did. They still paying money to see him live. For sure. Yeah, people are pulling up to see him. But we got to have a little bit of just decorum around.

White people let Meatloaf be famous in the 80s, right? You see a picture of Meatloaf? It was in the 80s. He was at an all-time high in the 80s. That man looked like Peter Griffin. And they said. Doesn't he have long hair? Meatloaf?

Yeah. I think he had short hair At one point Leon Thomas Girl I Great guy You didn't say his name Great singer

I read it though I read it really loud In my head Leon Thomas is really good He's really good There is R&B They're just Not mainstream yet

But they're out there Yeah But Genuine has to Take the vest off No He's gotta Put the The suits up

Y'all want Genuine To come out dressed The leather sets Put them away I think he should be allowed To wear whatever he wants Y'all want Genuine Y'all want these old head 90s R&B singers who was used to wearing suits and silk shirts to come out just like Boss Man D-Lo.

And I'm not going for it. Y'all want him to come out in the big ass Balenciaga sneakers with Amiri jeans on. I want the mischief boots. He needs to come out dressed like. I want them all to look like Gunna. We're going to be holding a purse. Yeah. Like Gunna.

That's what's wrong. I want him to wear the Rick Owens up to they knees in the lorts. And I want to fit it real low We need the leather vest I'm not saying that they need that And you're saying that white people That they're legends age blah blah blah That's what happens to them when they get old

Not when they get old when they're 23 That's them getting old When they're 23 they come out looking like Steve Buscemi So it's like what are you going to do I think that something about Being a rock star To white culture Comes with a certain

agreed with level of just looking kind of like whatever sounds like you're talking sounds like you're talking about Post Malone

let's give him post is he rock? yeah he came out he was doing rapping R&B and now he's fully a country singer and he gets to

that man stood up on stage with some Crocs on he drank a beer out of his vans he poured a beer or something into it

he be eating cigarettes doing all type of wild stuff but white people see that and they're like that's a rock star that's what a rock star is supposed to do

is be messy and be flawed and have fucked up hair or scar on your ear but we aren't because it's not the same though no but we have black artists like that

who? we got Uzi he put a thing in his forehead he implanted a gem on his like that's rock star stuff yeah Tezzo Touchdown

but I'm saying for Tezzo Touchdown he's good too for us to get that same level of agreed upon flawed you know uh imagery you got to be a rapper and uh specifically specifically a male rapper and

specifically an alt male rapper you can't you can't be a woman and be doing that we don't allow our we don't allow our women to be a rico nasty yeah these are people who kind of do even doji was doing like y'all just named three of the most perfect like beautiful women of all time they're beautiful but they get edgy and they've done so many quirky weird things yes curated edgy is one thing but I'm talking about showing up looking like

okay is this a 5150 situation and then having people go oh yeah that's just so and so yeah what about those girls the Lululemon girls

Pluto and the other chick I've seen them on stage rappers and they're from Atlanta so they what about I'm about to sin again what about them girls

the running hello Christ I'm about to sin again oh yeah they wear the elf ears they are adorable right yeah but they were doing

they get to do quirky weird Dungeons and Dragons behavior I'm talking about give us a real example I'm talking about TMZ

uh huh so and so was caught so and so was caught wearing uh San Antonio Spurs jersey yes and nothing else

oh Wendy Williams a Glock some Fila slides and her wig was sitting T.I. hat angle and she was just leaving Dave and Buster's

and then we don't go it's that we just go oh well you know that's just she's a rock star we don't get to do that first of all

this is 2025 they did that in the early 2000s that era is gone because people are too aware of what they look like and everybody's

got their phone out Lindsay Lohan was falling out of Lamborghini and her went no panties on hopping clapping

and everybody was like yes what next movie is she up what song I am the realest daughter and Janet Jackson her titty pulled out yes and was demonized until now now yeah you know what i'm saying like we

don't we don't give ourselves america does it and we don't give ourselves that that energy to be like man just be a piece of shit well because black people famously in this country are not allowed to be crappy right even like and i don't mean to get political but i'm about to barack obama had to be first in his class at blah blah blah yeah top shelf this and eloquently spoken and blah blah blah and the and the nigga we got now yeah can literally be post like eat cigarettes and curse in press conferences i don't even know trump be doing stuff that i didn't even know politicians could like he just do stuff and you'd be like oh i didn't even know we were allowed to yeah talk like that or or be that when he threw the the the toilet paper or the paper towels

when he was like kobe i was like oh obama obama had had to be a bad bitch the entire time yeah he came in office looking like zendaya and stayed that way the entire time remember when he threw that little tan suit on and they melted they were like the beige suit yeah how dare he yeah He couldn't wear a beige suit? Girl. I don't remember. He wore a tan suit and they lost their mind. Tan is out?

They just were like, it's not navy or black or gray tan. And we stand, I'm not saying we're not standing on the shoulders of giants with this. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, we got Nina Simone and Whitney Houston. I think I would put in that category of somebody that- Whitney Houston was a rock star who kind of let her wig shift. Yes, absolutely. And you can't be a rock star without your wig shifting.

And we need to put that on. But the wig shift needs to be built into our expectation of what a rock star is going to do and become. I agree. The wig shift got to be, we should be waiting for the wig shift because the wig shift is when, oh, you're like, okay, this, they're going super saiyan now. We might get like the best artwork that they ever made out of this. Sidebar, I think we need to stop talking about women's hair, regardless of natural or fake, because they say, oh, lace wear. Oh, I see the lace. It's waving at me.

OK, it's lace. It's a material. Oh, I would like I would like a dick made of lace. Hair lace. How about that? That's a material. That's a material. That's a material.

I'm writing that down. And right now the girls are on Love Island and they're like, they ain't got nobody to do the hair. They're in Fiji. Yeah. It's humid. It's hot. The girls are on TV. In a weird experiment.

who's behind the scenes are anglo-saxon they're not fixing those girls braids let them be you know shabby looking at towards the end now what would you do with your hair if you were on love island if i was on love island yeah what's the how many units you bring in like how many how many hats yeah like what you're doing with your hair well the thing is is that you can get wigs that have the band and you snap the band and then it stays you're saying they don't have that they don't have that they don't have that because the girls want to melt down the lace you gotta make sure it's okay if your hair looks like a wig it's a wig it's too hot it's too hot to have a wig on in fiji i'm sorry if i'm on love island and i have a wig on it's hot i'm peeling it back just a little

bit so that my so my brain just the ventilation okay okay well i'm literally i'm wearing the wig like this fiji is so hot that you actually should be bald if i could go on love island i'm going straight you buzzing it now how many bombshells how many of the dudes you think want a bald baddie and then you need to get into that what the fuck first of all i'm so tired of love island love island is mess because everybody's conventionally attractive what is the what's the stakes yeah stakes is they're gonna get off the show they're still gonna get fucked they're still gonna get more they're gonna be crushing they're gonna be so what they don't have riz and they don't have conversation or they're kind of dumb that's not enough i need

somebody on the show with hot breath i need somebody on the show missing a pinky toe i need somebody on there with no hands and taking everybody man now that is the show now if you have no hands how you doing the challenges um and how you making me breakfast if you ain't got no hands you know and how you squeezing titties with no hands well you you have the ones that but you can't squeeze if you don't have no hands i think titties still enjoyable with a With a nub I'm gonna go ahead and say But you date somebody

Who had two nubs If you tied my hands Behind my back And tied And hog tied me And put two titties in the room I'll figure out How to enjoy it

But I'm saying Could you date somebody If they had just nubs Yes Oh god Yeah Yes you can I'm from Atlanta

What are you talking about We'll buy that bitch Some new hands Yeah What are you talking about Hands don't make a person I'll tell you that much Hands make a fist

We will put some grill tongs On each nub and call it a day. I'm not doing this with y'all. When I tell you I... I'm sorry to the nub community, but I'm not sure, like, new. Like, I can't date a new nub person.

Like, if I'm with you for a while and then you become... Nub's got character. If I'm with you for a while and then you become a nub, that's different. I disagree. I think I'd have to...

You'd have to come nubbed to me. Pre-nubbed. Nubbed to nub. Pre-nubbed. Pre-nubbed. I don't want to fall in love with... You know what I'm saying? With new nubs.

Yeah, nah. I just want to keep it 1,000. I've met so many able-bodied people that just was not cutting it. So if I met somebody who was disabled or, you know, on the spectrum and I was vibing with them and everything was cool. Well, it's like their devil. You take away somebody's eyesight, their hearing going to get way better. You take them hands away, you don't know what you might get. Nah, I need you to be somebody.

Okay, you know what? I take it back. I take it back. Okay. Because if you were born with the nubs, then you know how to use your feet well. if you newly nubbed you know did daredevil become

blind or was he born blind I'm not going to walk out I'm literally I'm saying though there could be a daredevil situation with nubs that we are not factoring in

I think daredevil lost his can we fact check this he was born blind he lost so he Ray Charles Ray Charles

and you have to keep that in mind because what if god forbid knock on wood where is the wood You might be fucking with the best soccer player of all eternity. I wasn't going to say that.

I was going to say, what if that happens to us? I wouldn't want to be out the game because I'm missing edges. Should I not be loved? Should I not? Oh, no, no, no. Listen. Everybody needs love. The edgeless queens deserve love.

I mean, everybody deserves love, obviously. Maybe that's the new show, Nub Love. Okay. Nub Love. I actually love that. Write that down. We have to bring this mess in before we get out of here. You had a lot to say about New York last night.

And you said New York is a mess. So I want you to say what you said to us. I think this is a start over. What that mean? Just start over. Like bulldoze the buildings? However y'all want to interpret it, I think they should just start New York over. Just hit the restart button.

Why? Because the versions of people now is not what made New York great the many, many years ago. Yeah, the New York that you see before you, this is like Midwest. It's not really New York. But that's, in my opinion, what New York has always been. No, New York has always been like a melting pot of people from all over the world. Yes. But the people were cooler.

Now it feels like rich people or people whose parents pay for everything who come here and now they're the face of the West Village. And it's like, that's not what I saw. But when was it? When was it not that, though? The 90s, the early 2000s. When was it? So you're telling me back then it wasn't the same type of people coming here, planting their flag. This is what New York is.

Harlem was Harlem. Flatbush was Flatbush. There was different areas. The white people in New York City used to stay uptown. yep they never even came down here they did not they down here now and they making things real you know unseasoned real like anytime i watch like games in new york i'm like harlem oh so it was just always listen the planet's worst descending on this place excuse me this is what it always was it was just everybody they gathered their worst niggas and they said we're

gonna put y'all on the boat we're gonna send y'all to this place that doesn't belong to you yeah called staten island but that is very for sure on that i mean sure jersey right new jersey tomato tomato it's like you're talking about new york the greatest city the harlem renaissance the 80s and 90s it was like there was enough of them here where we're like okay we could justify calling this like the global center of capital now right but it's always been just boatloads and boatloads the worst niggas globally and they just you just ship them here and ship them in their pile on Cameron

Jim Jones Dipset well that's not a good example Drag on DMX those are the worst niggas literally Cameron

those are literally the best no Cindy that's literally the worst Orson Karens names 10 homophobic niggas back to back no no I love Cam

but I'm like you just name like 10 people who hate gay people Juelz got caught with a gun at the airport when he was going through security and he left his stuff and left the airport

and it's like We know you. No, that is the epitome of rock star. That was rock star. And in New York. Yes. I think when that song came out, that's when y'all should have. That's what ruined New York.

That's when it went down. Yeah. I actually kind of agree with you a little bit. That's when it took it down. Biggie. New York always been surviving something. Like, I think that's what. That's what happens here.

This shit been sick the whole time it's been alive. They said if you could make it here, you could make it anywhere. They done had to incubate this shit the whole time. Great Depression. And multiple diseases The Great Depression was everywhere The pictures you always see The pictures are here

Y'all always take They were eating bread in Atlanta During the Great Depression as well We still do that They still do that in Atlanta You're so rude The worst niggas That's what you're saying?

I'm just saying man If you gave birth to an organism And it needed to be incubated The entire time What about him? Malcolm X Okay Great dudes

Sydney's just saying names You're just saying guys. Duran Bernard. Sir. Don Tolliver. Don Cornelius. Don King. Mike Tyson.

Yes. I'm not saying get rid of it. I'm not saying, I just think we need the next little restart. Which New Yorkers have? Who's your first draft pick for New Yorkers? First draft pick? Yeah, for New Yorkers. Who should move here?

Who should move here? When we start over. Top five. Top five. Start it over with, like, Jacksonville people. No. Yeah. No.

What? Yeah, switch it up. You want to put Florida people in New York? That's worse than the people who are in New York right now. You need to even it out. Let me tell you one thing about First 48. The Jacksonville crimes never get solved. The people are bad there.

They're burning cars in broad daylight. For sure. We never figure out the murders. We will not be getting no Jacksonville. Well, the cops in Jacksonville are all crocodiles, so there's that. Absolutely. I'm just saying who's gonna fight NYPD

if it's not Jacksonville people New York needs a you might sip water on that New York needs a standing army of Florida niggas how about we get the nation of Islam

the black Israelites they had their chance the black Israelites they had their chance need to fight the cops I feel like everywhere needs a reset it's not just New York

America needs a no not America the world needs a reset we need to restore it to factory settings yeah we need to take the phones away take the phones away

no phones it's crappy everywhere stop the podcast oh get away TikToks TikTok gotta go and then we'll be we have to start over

and what we gonna do read? yeah what you want us to do yeah chop wood carry water that's what we gotta do that's one thing

she know how to do that's one thing she gonna do get back to the basics baby she gonna carry that water one thing about Sid she gonna carry that water Sid do anything

she gonna carry that water I ain't seen her chop no wood but not once i'm working through the process i've never even seen sydney knock on wood i'm in transition and that's what it's about i'm learning right now to be sustainable i'm not on instagram now because i'm working on myself and i don't want to put what chapter you are listen i'm down okay page 21 so you're saying we delete the whole world economy right now as it is delete it delete all

money start back from scratch now if we're deleting everything are we deleting the music are we deleting the art anything that's not a physical thing can go because the internet out of here but everything is nothing is physical really anymore money's not even physical that's what i'm saying the car yeah that's it so we just gotta start over you go back to bartering you know so you want to bring it back to like i am legend kind of you go to the strip club you paying for a lap dance with tiny oranges a bag of nectarines i'm not showing hole for fruits not no citrus I'm not

not now you not not in 2025 but hey not right now but if I delete if I delete the word economy and you ain't got

no electrolytes you gonna do something strange I'm not bartering I'm not bartering whole for any fruits and veggies not right now

you not now what about water what if we ran out of water would you show whole for one of these I think I would

okay yeah because you can only go about three days without water I need my water now that I'm in this world Wait, okay, so we have Messer Just Living.

Messer Just Living. Somebody gives you a gift card. It's only $40 on it. Messer Just Living. What store is it? You know. Where do you shop? Yeah.

Where do you shop? As a woman, Sephora. Okay. $40 gift card. As a man, I'm going to lie and I'm going to say REI. You got tents at the crib? You buying canoes and kayaks? I said I'm a liar.

Well, $40 is not going to buy you nothing at R.E.O.N., maybe some socks. I said I'm a liar because I didn't want my answer to be the same as Sid's. It was going to be support. Gift card, only $40 on it, mess or just living? I think that's just life. That's just life. I think it's right now. Right now.

The economy gets a little bit better. We need to fight. I feel like a gift card need to have $25, $50, $75, $100. weird okay 40 is a weird amount it's a weird it is yeah it is but 40 kind of lets me know you had to decide between this gift or rent so do i want to really right okay make a stand here with my friend who picked a weird number on the gift card yeah when i know 50 was right there literally it's i see the 10 steps away but it's crazy if like you go to you didn't even figure out how much money was on the card you had to spot you know you putting things in a basket you get to the

register yeah and then they're like yeah um this is your balance and i said 40 yeah 40 that's embarrassing but it's not embarrassing but it's just a little bit messy to start shopping before you know what's on the gift card that is crazy that is crazy that is something that only um really good looking people are gonna get away with so i i applaud you for living your whole life never ever having knowing the balance yeah knowing the balance that's crazy you never i'm like what that's the first thing i would do i'm a man i don't live in abundance it seems like y'all don't get good gifts because i am a man hold on hold on it seemed like you don't get good gifts you got a 40 gift card i'm just saying give cards and don't check what's on

I just go in there and I be like. That is bad bitch sociopath behavior. For the most part, it's been $100 gift cards. Whenever I get it. I've never even got a gift card, bro. Stop laughing. You are the gift. Bro, I'm a nigga, bro.

Like, nobody giving us a gift card. Our butt stank. Like, we not getting none of that. You never got a gift card. When is your birthday? December 6th. Okay, we'll circle back with a gift card on the 6th. We'll gift you on behalf of us.

Probably from my auntie. My auntie got me a gift card. That's not because, that's because she loved me. If your birthday is December 6th, there will be. See, getting gift cards just all being bad. There will be $6 on the gift card. And I was thankful. I was actually thankful.

It's going to be a $6 visa. You live a different life. She get gift cards and she just run around like supermarket sweet. Yeah. She just throwing shit in the car. You know she was. Oh, ow. Damn.

All right. I can't wait to fight you after this. That's just crazy to me. All right. We have a question. We have a listener message. Yep. Okay.

Hi, Sydney and Marie. I'm 42. already miss okay i'm 42 divorced in 2017 after 11 years of marriage i was a proverbial good girl all my life 2018 to 23 i dated my married best friend on and off what okay we've been besties since 16 and he's been in love with me since i recently had a brief friends with benefits situation with my child's godfather who happens to be one my ex-husband's best friend he's also my besties friend and business partner this insatiable sex drive i've had since my late 30s which just keeps getting worse has me going through a hoe phase in my 40s is this mess or

is this just living no go crazy yes i'd like to remain anonymous from south africa oh international is it really anonymous you're in south africa yeah well i mean there's only one person in south africa do you feel like the listeners know who we're talking about what's your thoughts i don't think there was nothing she didn't say nothing wrong to me that's just living let that coochie breathe let that coochie breathe and take a take a break take a beat or not so it's a lot of besties here and a lot of marriages happening here um it sounds pretty crazy i do but hey that's she said she says what 42 yeah 42 hey something wake up in y'all when y'all hit that late don't 30s women hit their sexual peak in their 30s y'all turning the ancient ancient sex demons yeah

i can't relate i'm on ssirs ssris you knew what i meant okay you are you are a maya papaya She's so horny, she's switching the letters around S-S-I-R-E You know what I meant She on SIRS She think about SIRS still You're being ableist I clearly am working through something

Your tongue, you working through your tongue And I'm a lesbian, so there's that Yeah, that don't change nothing, no, you still You still a little bit dyslexic You still going through your sexual Awakening, but it's like One of them commercials where they cut open a tank of water and then they put the tape on it to show you how strong the tape is

you just you just holding it all in with the ss with the sirs okay no you're right but it's still there it's still a deluge just i think deluge word word of the day word of the day i think mess is dating people you know there's so many strangers out there no that's scary going back strangers no keep going back it's also kind of messed up cycles see it it's kind of messed to date strangers I think as well strangers be killing folks they literally kill you know the most people who um most likely to kill you are people who know you that's also true people you know do kill you yeah and the people most likely to um fuck the best people you know and on that note Zach Zach Zachariah Zachariah Fox Arena look I think she need to go crazy go crazy South Africa

Yeah. I salute you. You didn't include your race in here. If you're black, if you're white, South African, hook yourself up to Acme Dynamite and get up out of here. Get up out of my face. I don't care what you do. 100%. I agree. Your great-grandparents, I know what they did. But now the name feels bleak. Actually... You don't know the name? Is she Afrikaans? Afrikaans? Yeah, she said anonymous, please.

If you're a white South African, go ahead and... We will be saying her name on the Patreon. Go ahead and get up out of our face. Thank you so much for coming in. Would you like to leave the listeners with anything? You know, ask them a question about maybe something that they think is messy

or share whatever really whatever it's the floor is yours ask them a question for your next episode nice like a messy prompt messy you know what yeah that could be the clip yeah that is the clip messy prompt i'm gonna say um what's the messiest thing that y'all did that y'all got away with okay messiest thing that you got away with okay

just in life I love that you made it you made a clean break and you can go crazy with it robbed a bank killed yes

don't please don't if the statute of limitations has expired all I'm saying is if you want to admit to murder that's on you baby I'm a refaulting

in Sydney, Washington we are going to be accessories to the crime I don't how am I an accessory yeah you're an accessory I watch Law and Order SVU they know about something

they keep packing the meat or packing the truck They don't even look at the detective in the face. Yeah. So as a podcaster, if you want to admit to something that you did that's illegal. I'm saying here at iHeartRadio, come admit to your murder. Come admit to the bank robbery. You tried to set it off.

You tried to set it off, and then something went wrong. You had to kill one of your allies in the operation. Listen, if you a doctor who does bad, botched plastic surgeries, your answer should be that. Yeah. See, that's the messiest thing I did ever. Yeah. In the next episode of I Did It, I did it wrong. I did it wrong.

I did it wrong. come through I did it wrong on iHeartRadio actually goes crazy yes coming this fall Zach where can

people catch you where can they follow you what you got going on what you got going on follow me Zach Fox on Twitter and Instagram

I'm playing at Portola Festival this year no way I'm playing at Three Points Festival this year I'll be back in New York

to do a takeover at Elsewhere in Brooklyn this year yes Marie and Sid will be there we on the list

Throwing ass, doing all of that. Now, Zach, for somebody who doesn't like New York, you sure as hell be here. I be here quite a bit, I do. I give myself 48 hours to be here and get out. And catch him on foot. He stay walking. I do, I do be walking.

I secretly love it here. I just had to, I gotta hate. And just like that, we wrapping you up. Yeah, you're on mess. Please keep leaving your messages and your messy ass reviews on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. We love you much. And if I'm going to be honest with you, I know we keep saying like we're wrapping up, but please keep banging your friend's best friend or whatever, whoever you go off.

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