MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - Friends in Tribeca w/ Crissle West
Episode Date: February 12, 2026This week Sydnee and Marie sit down with black podcast ROYALTY -- Crissle West! The three talk pregnancy MESS, dating MESS, queer MESS, and more. See Mess LIVE at OnairFest! Thursday, Feb 26 at ...5:30pm at The Wythe Hotel, get 30 percent off tickets when you use code: w3lcom3-ihearthttps://www.onairpresents.com/onairfestbrooklyn2026 Don't forget to check out this episode and more on our NEW YOUTUBE! https://www.youtube.com/@oohmess And as always, write in your messy stories at messthepodcast@gmail.com, or call in at (763) 280-6588 to have your MESSages read live on air! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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i would have never said that shit welcome to mess
we've already started and i love this this is this is immaculate i'm so we got podcast royalty
in the building we really do let's really just i know people do this when they come to your pod
and you go to other people but it's like you were one of the first podcasts i was listening to you
bought the first mic yeah it's me that got all you niggas buying short today you're an influencer
for real yeah sure hold on now it's sure it's usually sure it's usually sure yeah we really
started uh the way for a lot of people what does it feel like to um be the person who invented
podcasts well i think it's pretty freeing because i don't have all the pressure that it seems
everybody else has like all of these expectations they have for themselves and their numbers and all
this because we were the first to like really be popular like that especially in like black spaces
it's like when you when you set the wave you don't really pay attention to because everybody else is
trying to do what you've done she's an innovator first black podcast yes it is that's a bit much
but you know how hard it is to impress black people oh yeah that many yeah yeah there is that
i mean it really did start you know it birthed a lot of great shows um she said all you bitches
This is her sons, daughters and sons.
And you're all very welcome.
I mean, because when we started, the podcast app did not even come on your phone.
You had to go to the app store and search podcasts and download it.
You had to do the work.
Yeah.
You had to do the work.
You had to really want to listen to a podcast.
There was no clips.
Yeah.
I think, no, what?
Because it was a podcast, an audio show.
Yeah.
And so the read still is audio only.
It is a podcast.
It is not.
It doesn't do video at all.
It is not a YouTube channel like everybody else's show.
No, come on now.
You're dragging us on a YouTube.
I'm talking about me, too.
Crystal Couch is on video.
You were just on my show, Sydney.
Okay, now she...
Use your inside voice while you're here.
I'm yelling at you.
Use your outside voice inside.
That's right.
Thank you.
Mess.
So, but yeah, it's been...
That show is 13 years old now.
13 years.
It's a child.
The read is 13, yeah.
It's a teenager.
sometimes people be like
oh I started listening
to y'all in middle school
and now I just
finished grad school
and I'm like
what the fuck
are you talking about
you've been a part
of so many people's lives
like they can pinpoint
what was going on
in their life
and during certain episodes
and that's beautiful
it is
it really is
it's an honor
I feel
when I really think
about the success
of the show
I get kind of overwhelmed
so I don't really
spend a lot of time
thinking about
just how huge
and impactful
it has been
yeah but thank you i receive all that mama tina invited you to like for christmas
you know that's my amy yes so wait tina invited you to the house well now you know i've signed
certain documents so i can't say too much i can't say too much but too much it's a yes or no sis
what did you i know she put her fingers in your scalp no not to no she i have not been invited
to her home no okay okay so we're the same i haven't been invited to the home we're the same
She did your hair, too?
Yeah.
Okay.
Manifestation.
So what I'm saying is...
Your drops have touched the scalp.
Oh, nice, nice, nice.
Same thing.
Not directly, but she did do my hair, kind of, if you squint.
Dwayne had, like, the sacred packet, and I took a little bit that was at the end that
he didn't take, and I hid it.
So, Mamatina also touched your scalp as well.
We're the same.
The three of us have all done the same thing.
Look at us, Destiny's children.
Destiny's children.
destiny's teenagers oh yeah girl that's us wow and the way y'all just immediately locked in
y'all knew y'all was gonna do that good well i screamed girl at least three times and it really
is effective yeah i guess um because i mean we we were talking about you know the new life that
you have oh well sure podcasts do do that yeah and I have had that opportunity to just sort of
grow up on the show and change the way we do things adjust the way we do things and then now
with this new project Crystal's Couch having it just be something that is completely mine an
independent venture that I really get to shape however I want and do what feels right and not
necessarily be stuck in you know pop culture specifically so yeah it definitely gives you
the freedom and flexibility to do that and i've been very fortunate to be so successful
sound like you're trying to break us up yeah that's what i was like don't be getting no ideas
what's your venture about to be miss mama uh late night with marie foster
why are you single no i mean our show is still going the read is still
that is like my main thing that is my career that crystal's couch is more of like my passion
project yes okay yes i almost said play thing but i take it more seriously than that the way i came
up you had your turtleneck on and you was ready with your questions and you had the glasses on
like this oh no no no you set yourself up for a lot of that though you really did what you did
because give us the cliff notes well sydney came on the show first of all she brought you into it
now why am i saying it you and amina because apparently y'all had an intervention for her
where somebody made shrimp scampi and then y'all fucked up her scampi experience before she could
even get to eat it y'all was like bitch you're doing too much you're running around you're not
drinking water oh we're taking care of you okay look at sydney now look at sydney now and now
She's doing great.
My sister's wet.
Look at this.
Whop, whop, whop.
And it's water in there.
Look at her big ass.
I didn't want to say that earlier, but that is huge.
That's a child.
Oh, my God.
She claimed this on her toddler.
Yes, I need it.
She was right.
I was doing too much.
Yeah.
I was too dry.
So she came on my show.
I think she, because she knows I have this degree.
And I did have on a turtleneck, to be fair.
Yeah.
And so I think she wasn't really expecting some mental health interventions.
But I also didn't really try to do that.
It was just, you know, Sydney kind of assumes the worst and stuff like that.
So she did that several times throughout our interview.
And I was like, why do you keep jumping to the worst possible conclusion?
Like, yeah, I'm going to get you to therapy.
My sister's a pessimist, babe.
That's a reason.
You have never said that to me.
Sydney, you always assume the worst.
even we were in here talking about which character of sex in the city we were she was like i'm a
miranda why would you say that justice for miranda why is she the worst because the late in life
lesbian is that why you're a miranda no oh i just i feel like she's not she's damn she's not a
miranda i mean i agree i just one was wondering what your justification was like why would you
say that to yourself because she she's like she wants to have fun but inside she's like rigid and
you know by the books she works hard she don't like men like i'm like that's me you know sometimes
the the outfits and the haircut like you know what she's making efforts you think you're rigid
i am marie you always tell me we could go viral if i would stop holding back and stopping y'all
from saying yes but i think that part of that is fear and we were talking we were having this sort
a conversation is here let me get my notes so i can my notepad so i can write yeah and i don't
know you know i'm not her therapist so i don't know what exactly it is she's afraid of but a lot
of people are afraid of the way they're perceived for sure and sydney admitted that on the show
right sydney is that she's like i do not you know people criticizing me or having something to say
about like my life talking shit about me or whatever like that would be devastating i'm like
you do have to get to a point where other people's opinions can't have that
much of an effect on you.
Write that down.
If you listen,
you have to write this down.
I don't like the couch.
Can I sit on that solo chair?
I think y'all should actually wait.
Did you come on the podcast?
Are you trying to,
you trying to take my friend?
You know,
I'm trying to link up now.
Remember how we just said five minutes ago,
you'd be jumping to the weirdest,
worst possible.
This would actually not be worse because it's like big hair,
big personalities.
these i don't give a fuck like it would actually you don't think you have a big personality because
that's how you do the worm sober in a dress we saw you we saw you face down ass up at karaoke
on the ground the only sober person in the room
you were just drinking mocktails at your birthday party you got edible you didn't have no soju soju
don't count no i didn't have soju i did have an edible the edible yes girl the edibles i'll be
but i wasn't on the floor yeah california sober yeah yeah that's so easy to me california sober
like that is the easiest thing to do it's much harder to give up weed than alcohol really sure
yes sure truly yes because every dry january i've ever done i've smoked oh yeah yeah oh yeah
yeah and i'm not smoking right now but i'm eating edibles like skittles yeah i'm saying
I quit smoking
A few years
Well
COVID really changed
A lot of things for me
Sharing blunts
The fact that I ever
Used to do that
You ever get a blunt
Back from somebody
And the end is so wet
That you
Oh my god
Bitches with a lip gloss
I'm not
I'm sorry
That's why I was never
Really involved with that
Like I don't understand that
And cigarettes
No the secret is
You gotta put your fingers
On the joint
And then you gotta
Put your lips
On your feet
See I'm not doing all that
I'm simply not
The man with big lips
Taught me that
and i was like he didn't want one of them cute little holders i love them little pinchy holders
those are so cute i feel so classy like i would have gotten a lifeboat on a titanic
you know what i mean right and it's just so people with nails can smoke roaches but
they are great regardless people are so germ like germaphobes and i just don't understand
because like i mean people would have their bags of cocaine and we're putting keys inside of that
and then they're putting up their nose and then they're putting it dipping them back in and then
we all using it it's like the cocaine is gonna clean everything dirty the cocaine is gonna clean
everything if you if you if you ready to do cocaine then you ready to take a lot of risks
well now back in the day there was nothing in it it was just pure i didn't even mean that
oh really i didn't know you met fentanyl yeah you're doing coke i feel like you you open to
a lot of experiences other people's germs coming into your nasal passageway that don't even faze
you man i saw a video of this lady she was like look she was it was like a um a reel of how coke
destroyed her nose girl her nose went from like this oh yeah literally like the hole was so big
it was a big hole yeah yeah oh no i don't know oh yeah it's bad i had a physical once and the
doctor you know examining me asked about drugs cocaine and all that and i said i didn't do and
he was like yeah i can tell you don't and i was like excuse me he was like you know it's his toy
whatever membrane or septum it's some cartilage or something something that coke users it
deteriorates yeah and if you don't know it's full-on collapse like fully like wow it's something
in there i was like damn so you asked that question just to see if people will lie
Imagine you were like, yeah, I do coke.
He'd be like, no, you didn't do that.
You did coke.
Once.
He said, was it organic?
You did not do cocaine, baby.
That was Johnson & Johnson.
Damn, I wonder if they can check my nose and see.
Like, does it grow back?
I don't think so, but I really wouldn't know.
Well, because it feels stronger now.
Like, back then, it was thin.
It was like paper, paper thin.
Ooh, wow.
It felt like there was...
Yeah, so maybe it does grow back.
Maybe it does grow back.
Oh, good.
Because I had to rebuild, you know?
The fact that you can feel the difference.
Yeah, you've been doing your nose kegels?
I love that season.
Marie.
Yo, and I would tell you, my nose senses was like...
You could be cooking something in another building and I could smell it.
I was like, is that chicken teriyaki?
Yes.
Oh.
Wow.
Your nose was see-through.
That is really crazy.
Your shit was just there.
It was waxy as fuck.
Your nose was see-through.
Casper the Friendly Nose.
That's what it was, yeah.
When we were young.
When we were young.
I don't know.
Coke has always seemed like such a scary thing for me.
Yeah.
I did it once, and that was enough for me to know I never, ever wanted to do it again.
I was, I was, we were drunk as hell.
I mean, we had been drinking, smoking weed, of course.
We was at a strip club in Atlanta, so we was doing all that.
If you're not doing bumps in Atlanta, where are you doing that?
And so my friend was like, you want to try Coke for the first time?
We went to the after party spot.
She was like, you want to try Coke for the first time?
I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do it with you.
This is my homegirl.
Nothing wrong with the Coke or anything.
The problem was that within like five minutes, I felt completely sober.
Like I had not been drinking, smoking, nothing all night long.
I was like, oh, this is a miracle drug.
Like, what do you mean?
Like, this medicine.
How can it be that I'm completely?
Right.
Crystal, so you like liquor.
that much you're that much of a drinker that you're like i don't want to do coke because that
takes away from the feeling of drunk now how did you get there
well i'm not even done telling you what happened but i wasn't you know what the ears was open
brain was closed that's what it was happy yeah okay so it made me feel no i was like this is
incredible but you know then the next day i was like throwing up outside and felt terrible really
sick because i had kept drinking and stuff thinking that because because i felt sober
because of the coke so i really ended up doing way too much that night it could have ended very badly
i'm very very grateful it did not but it was one of those situations where i was like i don't need
to take anything that lies to me about how inebriated i am i need to know exactly how
fucked up i am yeah so that's why i was like i don't know if coke does that to everybody but
i am super cool on coke and this is part of the dare community like i feel like this is an ad for
dare right there that's just yeah that really pulls it in the kids need to know that that could
happen to you so i think the kids know and don't care they don't give a oh yeah no no they're this
generation is ready to die girl well actually a lot you're also drinking less than previous
generation oh yeah the gen x is not drinking but that's because they vaping every fucking thing
girl and drinks are expensive i mean you go in there for 20 23 dollars yeah is this as strong
as a long island iced tea it is not right so why are we spending 23 dollars yeah and your
little cartridges will last way longer than that but yeah they're not rationing out like the
cartridges to drink this is yeah no this is a recession and i mean and that's i'm sorry it's
honestly great that they're not drinking it's pretty terrible for you well they're also
microdosing ketamine so they're doing drugs yeah they're not sober sober right you know what i'm
saying they're just not drinking alcohol like previous generations i'm sure they're way higher
than me and my people were at that in like our early 20s or whatever yeah the weed is stronger
because alcohol was way more accessible and i was you know in my 20s most of my 20s i was in
oklahoma so how is that you can easily mess oklahoma i went i went back for my homegirls
wedding eight or nine years ago took everybody out bought drinks for everybody it was like 45
dollars for everybody to have i said oh wow wait you bought a round of drinks from multiple rounds
of drinks for like eight or nine people 45 and it was 45 tab you're telling a lie i'm not i'm not
i'm not lying to you was it a cow either somebody was really looking out or them drinks they probably
knew you one or two you oh no you said the podcast 13 years old nine years ago you got a key to the
city i think i'm less famous than you think i am in oklahoma everywhere i don't believe that i
really because what you think it was some black bartender no we were at some bar in oklahoma
white people do not know who i am and they would be deeply ashamed if they did
they don't want me claiming oklahoma i'm the antithesis of what oklahoma stands for
because i don't know if they know that word over there
yeah we're doing bad as far as education that's why your tab was $45 they can't count
can't read they said we're gonna use just the fingers we have and that's that they said you
had this many yeah i said wow the cost of living difference is really profound because two drinks
you might get two drinks in new york for 45 dollars no and that really depends on where you
at no way because at the soho house yeah jumbo house right girl 28 for right yeah and they're
adding the tip because they're like yeah we're not playing these games and they expect you to
tip on top of that too because they don't that's why they don't tell you they just be like i was
out the other day and the service was bad but we went to pay and my friend was like what's the
total and then like in little tiny yeah font it says gratuity is already included and it's like
oh okay i don't mind like i actually love tipping but you do you're really good at it i i do i feel
you know it's one of those things i was really raised to do that is worth keeping it's one of
those lessons that i'm glad was taught to me um and but new york be doing a lot like what you mean
it's 27 for one cocktail like this is rude is the tip not already in that it feels like you already
feels like it is let's take you gotta pay tax yeah yeah that's 27 is baseline well how bad do
you want this this mixed cocktail yeah not that bad not that bad how bad do you want you know
this old-fashioned right and so i mean especially i'm not opposed to it if we going out to a
steakhouse or something you know let's celebrate have drinks whatever i'm not gonna be like oh no
i'm not buying that but most of the time i'm taking a couple edibles before i leave the house
anyway so i'm floating anyway baby i'm fucking chilling anyway what's your edible brand what's
your strand love caminos love lost farms um what else do i hate the caminos container and i swore
Oh, the Camino's container is a pain.
It is a problem.
Remember when we were in New Mexico and you were like, it took about three people to get it open.
We went to a restaurant.
Oh, yeah.
It's a pain in the ass.
They were stabbing it with a knife.
Everybody in the chef was trying to ratatouille and fillet the container.
I said, once I get this open, I will never get this brand again.
Yeah.
If you close it wrong even just one time.
If it's off the track?
Yes.
If it's off the track, you could beat the hell out of that thing and the lid might not pop off.
You could run it over with a car.
at the same time
I'm like
this is good
because children
shouldn't be able
to get into these
so I'm glad
it's a challenge
then I'm a child
yeah
we all are
but then when you're
trying to get it open
you seem like
you got a bad habit
a problem
yeah
I'm just giving
heart
you feel like a fiend
when you're like
I'm like
I just need to get
I've been working
on this for an hour
I need my pineapple
habanero gummy
that sounds good
oh it's the best
that is their best
flavor combination
they also did one for pride that's like a passion fruit oh well you heard so you have a little promo
with them they're legit my favorite but i you know i go and and try different ones all the time um
i like pro taps which are not gummy or candy at all it's just literally a little pill those are
great i like the droppers oh really you like pink shirts and stuff i like heirloom they have a good
one that i like um i like wild wild has good edibles well it's okay and something farms
lost farms lost farm yeah little little copper um so there's those and then there's some that
are like starbursts lost farms kiva that brand kiva has the yeah it's even i think kiva owns
lost farms or maybe it's the other way around but one so y'all making me want to get into the
edible game like what's going on y'all promoting this i have to remind myself whether you do we
like i'm always like is sydney sober sober or do she still smoke like i was never a smoker like
that um and so i was always doing the hard stuff this is for what y'all talking about is for
yeah like so i don't i remember doing edibles with sydney 10 years ago or however many years
ago that was we was in that bodega okay busting down bacon egg and cheeses oh yeah that's another
reason why i can't have edibles because i'm gonna eat and then it's like bacon egg and cheese we've
ever had sydney had to get another one i got another one for an hour and a half yeah yeah
we were laughing we're just you stayed in the bodega we stayed there to eat yeah we pulled
they had a little countertops never in my 14 years of living in this city have i ever eaten
in a boat in a bodega we had a time down bodega we had a so then it's what kind of bodega is this
for real it was it was definitely the meat was blessed it wasn't lincoln market the meat was
blessed for sure the eggs was blessed it was halal okay yeah okay definitely halal wow yeah
so you was zooted then if y'all ate it we were zooted inshallah
You think it was all about the planet?
I think there was a surge.
We were waiting for the surge.
We were waiting for the surge.
Oh, like a realty.
Because wasn't it Halloween?
Uber surge.
Yeah.
It was a crazy surge.
It's starting to come together now.
It is.
It's making sense because, yeah, them Uber and Lyft prices in the city on holidays.
Especially now.
Yeah.
Oh, it's bad.
Now with these snow mountains all over the place.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I will jump on the train so quick.
I'm proud of you for that.
I love the train.
Me too.
I'm trying to work on it.
I'm not going to take it that far.
I don't love the train, but I do enjoy the convenience of the train.
I love the train.
I do.
I think the train is, the MTA is, I mean, and of course we bitch about it, and rightfully so.
But coming from a place that does not have anything near this efficient, I am just blown away that you can get anywhere in the city for $3.
Say it out loud.
I'm going to tell you what, it's not efficient.
Okay.
If you go, I mean, I'm sure you've traveled.
It's efficient compared to public transportation in any other city in this country.
Well, London is pretty good.
In this country.
In this country.
But you have to leave America to find better public transportation.
London, Paris.
Much better.
I was in Tokyo.
First of all, they line up.
Oh, yeah.
No.
They order leave.
They about they shit.
And the trains come on time.
So you're trying to move?
What's up?
And they don't eat.
They don't do all that.
They have cars just for women and children.
love that they say hey get your nasty testosterone out of here i need to go to asia it's the
i'm not that's a continent i've not been to i want to go to japan real bad but yes
the public transportation in london and paris both way better especially because well last i
don't know if it was the last time i went but when the air quality is bad in paris the train is free
i don't know they might have ended that but when i went the air quality was bad like four out of
five days. And so the train was free.
And I remember when the sky was
orange in New York City.
Yes!
I think they doubled.
They doubled the pay.
When the fires were so bad that you legit
couldn't go outside without a mask.
And the sky was fucking orange.
I think the train was a hundred
dollars.
They needed more money to be underground.
sydney do you have some message you wanted to share yeah uh somebody that i know was talking
to a friend and the friend was like yeah i have this crush on this girl um this is not my mess
this is overheard mess but basically they were like oh I like this girl on tiktok they're very
beautiful like I'm very into that this is a lesbian and I'm like we've been going back and
forth in dms and I'm trying to figure out what like how am I going to ask her out on a date
and so this person was finally was like well let me let me see this girl sends the page
and immediately he was like this person is not real it's ai first of all the the girl was just
too beautiful like it didn't look it didn't seem like a real person also the person that they were
like oh i'm gonna slide in her dms it's like i don't think this you would be her type no shade
the ai type no yeah you wouldn't be ai's type oh that's devastating and then but ai was writing
back so it was like well obviously i'm their type but then it gets worse in the bio it said um ai so
it says ai in the bio okay friend missed it or didn't want to see it because sometimes it'd be
a little bit of both perhaps that is mess now when you say the page is ai the person had video
videos yeah i'm sure but if it's labeled ai like it's ai in the bio there's really no excuse
artificial okay i intelligence da da da da so the person didn't didn't know that they were
falling in love with ai or they did we are booked as a society because if you know you have a crush
on ai i'm gonna have to ask you to call a therapist immediately like do that right now how do you feel
about ai therapy chat gpt it is a problem it is don't say it's a problem say people should not
do it we have to be against it i i i am against it okay but i don't like to say what people
should or shouldn't do in a therapy context because most people reaching out to chat gpt
for therapy don't have real therapy accessible to them for whatever reason financial or whatever else
may be the case so and some people don't realize they're using chat gbt as a therapist
what you mean like they there's no friend they're not really right they're not cognizant of like
i'm using this to help me to try to improve my life and and help me feel better they talk about
it like it's a friend it's like you're actually using this because you want guidance so the only
chat gbt that i ever use is on my laptop in the little box i don't sign in i don't pay for it i
just ask a question a little free one a little free yeah you know a little amuse-bouche chat gpt
um but you can get it to talk to you on an app yeah there are so many different apps
you there are so many different they are they are making it more and more complex but a lot
of people use just the regular chat gpt to ask mental health related questions and stuff like
that but i feel like so many people just like so many people and you know apart from you know
we're not gonna have no water here in the next 30 years or whatever like the ai is not set up to
help you with your mental health it's set up to it has enable you in its head right enable you
and usually it will just reaffirm the problem is that therapists will challenge your fucked up
beliefs chat gpt usually will not or you can keep talking to it however you want it to to train it
how to talk to you human beings don't do that so the last time i used chat gbt was last week
and i got an email from this person who was trying to schedule some time to talk to me
and the like literally 20 minutes before we were supposed to talk i got an email hey
i can't meet with you let me know if you do this week later on in the week this is now the third
or fourth time this person has done this to me wow oh no so okay i responded yeah hey this is
now the third or fourth time the truth this has come up right so it seems like you got a lot going
on over there let's you know figure all that out and then let's talk end of February or sometime
in the near future I sent it off but after I sent it I was like well let me just check with chat
and see if this is the right message I should have sent so I put in what she wrote and then
I put in what I wrote and chat GPT said yeah don't send that why don't send that like because
because it sounded like
I was being
what's the word
combative
and I said
well I already sent it
and ChatGPT said
LOL you're good
literally
LOL
you're good
yeah
they told me not to
I said I did
they were like
it's okay
express yourself
Marie
this is what I was
I was trying to say
like we gotta
I'm against it
I am against it too
I am not in favor
it's funny if you're like
where can I find my man
hilarious
but like
where the men's be at i think that's funny but asking it real questions is like people use it
to post things on social media people do yeah people use it to write their captions do it
before people use it to literally text their yeah that's what i heard about that some people are
using chat gbt to flirt i'm like oh no y'all gotta start reading books again this can't be
they refuse girl they're using it to write to write papers to write cover letters oh yeah and
Those papers are terrible, too.
As somebody who actually can write, I can spot that bullshit every time.
It's so bad.
Damn.
If you think ChatGPT is good at writing, you are not good at writing.
Girl, people write.
But if you're not good at writing, I might as well let ChatGPT do it.
This is what I'm saying.
You think what ChatGPT is doing is good.
But I feel like the students that are using it to write papers and stuff, their professors
are putting their papers through a thing that tells them it's AI.
I just finished my degree last year and we had the every time we uploaded something and you had to check a little box that acknowledged that somebody was going to use AI to an AI detector to see how much of this, if any of it was, you know, suspected to be AI.
And it frequently would say, you know, 20, 30 percent, something like that.
I think just based off, I mean, it's grad school.
I'm writing in a very professional way.
So I think there's a certain threshold where professors are like, that's just, you know, you wrote that nicely.
Yeah.
But once it gets up to like the 70s, 80s or something, then it's like, you're using a few too many em dashes.
I know what you are.
Is it em dash?
It's an em dash.
Hey, Siri, what's an em dash?
Oh, my God.
I was like, Marie, somebody tell us what an em dash is.
What's an em dash?
Help us.
Oh, not y'all like to look at me.
Yeah, help us.
You know, it is what I thought.
I didn't know
That's what that was called
No but
Chat GPT
Do love a long dash
What is this
M dash
I do dot dot dot
I don't think I use
M dash
I love doing the
M dot dot
I mean not the M dash
I just
M dot dot
It's the ellipsis
It's dot dot dot
Yeah
Yeah
Ellipsis yeah
That means
Isn't it like
I'm thinking
You're trailing off
Yeah
Yes
Yes
I'll hit a comma
Every sentence
I'm taking a breath
Right here
Yeah
But a dash
M dash
So, yeah, we, all of our assignments were checked for AI and plagiarism, like, constantly.
So, I'm familiar with that.
But, again, it has to be, like, a high percentage of, like, girl, it, before my professors were, like.
Okay, but what's worse, plagiarizing or using chat GBT to write your paper?
I think they're equally bad.
Well, I'm glad plagiarism hasn't gone anywhere.
Because either way, you didn't write it.
Copy and paste.
Either way, you didn't write it.
And you know I've done that before, baby.
So, yeah.
Wee.
Yeah.
Some of the kids are still copying and pasting directly from Wikipedia, but they don't know how to format it to match the other text.
So, you're just turning in stuff that's all these different fonts and shit.
Girl, I know you didn't write this because why is it in five different fonts?
When I used to write papers for school, we used to make, you know how you can search the whole doc?
Search the doc and then make all the periods bigger.
To take up space?
Yeah.
And that would make the paper a little bit longer every time.
I mean, you're not printing these out.
No.
Oh, because your professor would be able to tell if it was a digital copy.
They probably weren't looking that hard.
I wasn't looking at my periods.
Mine was.
I mean, I told y'all the story about me in college, but yeah, it was just, I was, I was
in a bind, Nate.
And I literally, the first, my first hit for the paper I needed to write, I Googled like
how to write a paper about and then they found a paper my first the first search you didn't even
go to like third page i was under emotional mental duress and i said i just need to get
this motherfucking paper in and i i had maybe an hour and a half to spare what for 30 pages
30
30 pages
a 30 page paper
girl you was working
on your thesis
Sydney
it was for a final
and I was in
and I was in the
untreated ADHD
is really a bitch
yes I was in my
senior year
girl
and I turned it in
my professor was like
I don't know like
67 or something like that
I was like it's old ass
I don't know what the fuck
I'm saying
you don't know what the
internet is
yeah and I moved
a couple words around
and changed a couple
things in the beginning
Sydney that man has
probably seen that paper
so many times
he did he said that
he said that but I
thought that when I
went to his room
like because he was like meet me in my office at 8 p.m that's kind of late that's kind of late
yeah i was like oh he want this yeah you know you want this and so i went there thinking he was
gonna touch me and he oh it was a different type of touch yeah it was a touch to grab me and throw
me out of school gonna touch me is the craziest so then how did this end girl what do you mean
how does this i've never heard the story oh they they dj'd jazzy jeff me out of the school they
said you have you have 24 hours to get out yeah yeah this is for your final no mercy yeah well
i was your senior year senior year so you i was so close i was so close to not graduating and so
i was so close to not graduating anyway yeah they were like maybe if i maybe if they had more hope
for me to graduate they probably could have fixed something but they did not damn now we can't see
ourselves on this uh tv is that okay yes there's no signal okay okay great okay great that's good
that's a tough lesson to learn damn was it well i mean you got kicked out of school wasn't it but
i'm here but right you are here and you got a graduate degree you did and i was right here
literally same same yeah so what did grad school really do for me is the question what did my
bachelors do for me that's a great title of the episode i want that as the title of episode ruin
my credit uh so chrysal yeah you know you're here for for your mess what is it yes so what's your
mess today so i didn't know if we were chilling because your people were working on the television
or no they're fine it's still rolling okay well so my mess is not actually my mess it's secrets
that i am holding that belong to friends of mine but now that this happened to more than one person
i can talk about it publicly because right you know when it's just one person they're like damn
bitch not you're telling my business but i have multiple friends who have chosen to terminate
their pregnancies without telling their husbands that they were ever pregnant oh yeah now why why
are they not telling the husbands well because the husbands would love to have more kids but
since they're the mothers they have to do all the real work and so they don't want no more kids
but if they told the husband they were pregnant it wouldn't you know it would not be a like a
let's have a conversation about whether to keep this it would very much be like
now why are they telling you because i'm just saying like well you hear a mess well she don't
saying no names i'm right i'm not saying no name this is multiple friends who have done this oh
tons i'm sure tons of this feels like why did i get married i feel like a lot of married women
do this and they simply don't tell nobody because you're going to be greeted with a lot of judgment
and shame but i don't see nothing wrong with it i don't see anything wrong with it if you know
that man is going to try to pressure you into keeping a pregnancy anyway and you are you know
for a fact you don't want to have another baby this is after having multiple children already
This is after having multiple children.
So, why don't you just get, like, have them go in there, yank it out, and just take the whole thing out.
Throw the uterus away?
Yeah, just yank it out.
Like, I mean.
Get the uterus out.
Kobe, like, that's what I'm doing.
Well, the girls might not want to go into early menopause, you know, in their 30s.
Do you want to go early menopause, or do you want to have another, be pressured gun to head, so you having my baby again and again and again and again?
Well, they don't know.
so that's the thing
even if you did want
to have a hysterectomy
who's to say your husband
would be on board with it
like
I don't know
my body my choice
now you got
recovery from a hysterectomy
is gonna be a little
not me thinking
you're gonna take it out
and then be like
going to the club
right
you gotta expect me
and the next thing
you like
I'm looking for a hose
like that
no
it's seven people
on Friday
it's nine to five degrees
you laying down for a while
right
I ain't got no uterus
said no uterus ain't got me you know like no i ain't got no uterus and no uterus ain't got me
well i really think it ends up being a bigger conversation of like what kind of men do we have
in this society where so many wives feel like they can't tell the truth about you know their
sexual autonomy reproductive choices let's talk about it right i mean because on tiktok okay and
on on x and on instagram it's a lot of women who are married and have children and they talking
about their single moms in the marriage yes and it's like yeah i saw something the other day
an article i read the headline it said um let me see i think i screenshot it well while she's
saying that i think that first of all it's it's so much mess in it because it's like
why are you coming to the internet of like gloating about your your man who don't do nothing
and then so are you telling us because you just want to say something or do you want us to engage
because now we're going to engage drag him yeah now you got to stand up for this person that you
gave to the wolves yeah the drag right and you're going to still be in the same situation this is a
lot it's a lot of mess yeah it's too much mess it is a problem if you're going to complain about
this man and then get mad at us when we say wow this is shit behavior like yeah and you should
leave him but a lot of women expect that they'll be able to complain about their men and then the
other one will just say oh yeah girl mine too he this this this this this like you expect that
other women will also just commiserate and then you'll all go back to your miserable lies like
miserable lies my mother was definitely one of those women who you know is married and husband
is right there in the home yet you are a single parent effectively because the actual work of
raising these kids that nigga was very checked out and it i mean you could even have like the
most supportive best husband or male partner in the world and still as the person who has to grow
and give birth to this baby it's not gonna be equal like it's not gonna be 50 50 especially
when they're very small you by default you're gonna end up doing so much work it's a huge
sacrifice for you so i'm all for you as the person who has to be pregnant making that decision
my i don't so i'm it's not like a judgment of the women it's more of a judgment of the men
because why does she feel like she can't talk to you about this but it's also a judgment on her
because it's like why are you with somebody that you can't communicate that's a good question like
transparency. Did y'all see the game
clip? The game and Evelyn
and Evelyn's daughter? Oh my god. Jesus, it's a fire.
That actually, that was
really depressing. For a backstory,
they were on a
podcast together? No, they have a
podcast. Evelyn Lozada
and her daughter Shanice Lozada.
It's their podcast. That's messing
itself.
They had the game on and he has a baby
with the daughter.
And he said, I told you before
we got together that I don't change diapers.
and he was like
and he was like
gloating that he's
never changed a diaper
in the baby's life
but didn't Nelly
say that too
no Nelly said that
to Ashanti
and they're together
and they're married
and she gave him a baby
yeah
and he straight up
asked Shanice
he was like
what you thought
my mind was gonna change
when the baby got here
and she was like
yeah I guess I did
and Evelyn is cackling
and Evelyn's cackling
in the corner
just cackling
damn you were set up
to fail
because yikes
and when Lizard
is your mother
it wasn't gonna end
well for you
but
but imagine you date a you you you date a man i mean a lot of the comments are crazy too they
were like this lady this girl waited until she was in her 30s to have a baby and this is who
she had a baby with yeah like it's not like she was super young and naive she was grown at night
right people expect you to know better but just because you get older doesn't mean you grow up
it doesn't mean you mature and so you very much can be you know 33 35 years old and still out
here making decisions that some 18 or 21 year old would make and i just want to say right everybody's
gonna make some dumb ass or not dumb but just choices that you're like i wouldn't do that right
cool but then you set up the cameras and get a microphone and then you put it you put it on
vid and audio and then you press post you do that's when i was like oh this this is where i'm
frustrated with it's like i would have rather not i wish i didn't come across my for you page i wish
i wouldn't have known nothing about this i haven't seen anything that i would remotely want to hear
anything that the game has to say right i haven't even played i mean his name is the game yeah he's
gonna be playing games right it's not gonna be worth your time haven't heard a game the game
song in years years off the top of your head a game song this is how we do right no that might
be 50 i don't think it hated i love it that's 50 cent yeah but i think game might be on that
okay yeah yeah right oh he's on that yes but i don't know what game song his own actual song
right so yeah like and i feel that way usually when i see a man in front of a microphone i'm
like this isn't worth me pressing play oh this is not worth me listening to oh i didn't watch
the clip i just read the comments oh no i'm going straight to the comments i was i felt sick for
that girl because like wow you really not only is he bragging about how he was not going to be a
good dad like he's talking to you like you a dumb bitch for actually listening to him like it like
like you shouldn't have never gave him a baby like he's talking to you like damn what was you
Because didn't he say, doesn't he say when he saw her, he knew he wanted to put a baby in her or something?
Yuck.
Yes, yuck.
Didn't he used to want her mama?
He might have had a mom.
That might be why the mom was laughing so hard.
And that is why I say, when you, with all the bad things that you do or things that you have, you regret, fine.
But when you put up them cameras, you plug up that microphone, and you go on your garage band,
And you're like, ooh, this is going to be the episode.
Let's do a part two.
That's when I'm like, see, you had the power and you let that post hit you where you're like, oh, I feel like everybody else should know.
That's when I'm like.
Well, they want the numbers.
You know, they want to go viral.
They want more people to listen.
They want the attention of that.
But also everybody doesn't realize that they are fucking clowns.
Everybody doesn't realize that they're immature as shit.
Yeah.
Because he probably left that thinking, feeling great, feeling great about himself.
It's me.
Feeling like he's that nigga.
He went like this when he walked out.
Literally.
Literally.
He has no idea he sounds like a clown.
Yeah.
Nigga, you fucking 50 talking about you don't change diapers.
Be for real.
Grow the fuck up.
Is he 50?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm assuming he's at least 45.
Right.
The game.
The game.
Period.
Rounding it up.
Right.
Rounding it up.
So you say 46 is 50?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Well, it's closer to 50 than 40.
100%.
I don't like the math that's happening on mass, but yeah, sure.
You round up.
This is the regular math.
Yeah.
You round down if it's under.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's bring it back to friends, right?
How, like, your friends telling you this.
Where does that, I mean, where does that stand with your friends?
And then, like, you, like, being the person that's holding something that I, for me,
as a friend obviously as you get older you like you gotta let your friends rock they gonna do
whatever they want blah blah blah but then there comes a moment where it's like yeah why are you
why are you with somebody well i understand why because they're straight and as far as men go
these are pretty good men now what not define pretty good men meaning they don't beat them
not not right no abuse and that includes you know verbal emotional abuse stuff like that um
employed and if not completely faithful at least he's not fucking up you don't know nothing about
it okay i can't say these men are faithful but they seem to be appear to be they appear to be
faithful um and they're decent dads like they they're hands-on with their kids they changing
diapers they doing hair you know like you could do a lot worse as far as men are concerned so
when the bar is hell it is the bar for straight women is legit employed yeah yeah what you should
be like you shouldn't be doing nice guy men that i don't like all of my friends husbands and male
partners i like being around them i like talking to them yeah that's rare for straight men i usually
do not like having conversations with straight men so they legit are better than the average but
they are still men and so for some of them it really is this like we straight men y'all got
to get better pr who is doing the pr for straight it's not pr in 2026 the problem is that this is
how they are so they need to change the way they act but it starts in the home i know i blame girl
i blame boy moms for boys being the way that they are i blame society sure i blame the women
why are you still dating
I say
it's the same thing as the friends who are
complaining about something and you're like
where's the change going to happen
the solution would be when people
like that are in your life
you let them go
you don't
bend you be like I'm all
good I'm all set you're not making
excuses and you're not like
well I'm going to give this person a chance
you're going to be like absolutely fucking not
yeah that's your hard line
And every guy that has, you're like, how could he do this?
He didn't done it before.
Somebody was like, it's okay.
That guy that I went to his house and he was using somebody else's electricity and he brought me there all the way to New Jersey and whatnot.
And it was giving, you know, a blank man set up in his house.
I told him, I said, you should be ashamed.
I've been on Abbott before.
You knew I was coming here.
You invited me here.
How could you live like this and think this is acceptable for me?
and you invited me to this
I've been on ABC
and you know what he said to me
he's like I knew you were gonna act like this
and then you fucking still brought me here
you still brought me here
and then you said you know what
if you're going back to the city
let me try to you know
resolve my night
maybe I'll drive you back
I said you need to resolve your life
you're not driving me back bro
I'm not doing that
oh absolutely not
I wouldn't have gotten in a car with that nigga
I don't think you would have made it back, honestly.
I told you, bitch.
I said, girl, do you know what the fuck is going on right now?
I'm in the tunnel going back to Brooklyn.
I agree with Sydney.
I mean, I stand by my statement, but I agree with you.
We do need to bring back shaming these men.
Or maybe not bring it back.
We need to bring it out.
Because I feel like a lot of women don't talk to men a certain way,
the way that we really want to, the way we feel.
Because we don't think we're going to be on the line.
Violence.
Right.
So it's like easier to just be like, this how you live?
Okay.
well i gotta go i gotta go it's easier to like slink out and sneak out that way than be like
because you don't know how because you don't know how they'll react right where you want to live
exactly these are also women who have been with these men for years and years and so it's not as
easy as just leave yeah ultimately they could leave but you own property together you have
children together you're you're you've been married for several years it is not quite that
simple and when you look at what's out here you might say hmm a nigga who would pressure me into
keeping a pregnancy when I really don't want to that's probably all of them that's I'm probably
not gonna find a man who wouldn't do that and I like all these other things about him so I think
that's where they end up with you know it's just easier for me to go get this done and I can tell
you know a few trusted friends about it kind of get it off my chest and then and this is why i
say the women should be marrying their friends just marry your friend you're so if you want
they're straight they don't want that but you could still date them but you won't rely on them
you know what i mean you rely on your friends right you you support we could be relying on
each other have sex with the men use them right yeah but then have the person who's really there
for you and really have an actual you know connection with mentally emotionally obviously
not physically you and your girl living she wants that to be real so bad and it's just not
so you want your you Sydney it's not realistic even even jumping in the car with y'all on after
your birthday I was like damn I shouldn't even be in this car with Sydney and her girl wait why
it just felt like damn I'm it's like when uh a couple gets married and they jump in the car
just married i felt like i was in the just married car no no no she was in the back but
she was sitting right next to me right right right right right right but i'm saying
i understand that but i'm saying it still felt like y'all have y'all thing as a couple and then
your single straight friend should be doing their own stuff i was like i don't want you to do that
yes because you want me to be y'all third no oh side third you know what the things that people
say to me you literally just said that's why i think you should be with your friends that's not
oh my god realistically that's not oh wow girl i'm i'm talking about sisterhood wow no and i i
you know and now people just think that i would just want to touch my friends and that's not true
i touch my body
so these women are very professional very successful they don't rely on men for anything
they are but and they still want to be partnered with a man they want to live in a house with a
man nobody wants to live with a man nobody you're not straight sydney becca do you want to really
live with a man she lives with a man i do live with a man and how many years how long have y'all
lived together see she wants that she just wants you know she wants it like that you want separate
wings do you like living with a man it's not bad if you had the perfect home setup how would it
be like yeah what would it look like what would a perfect setup but i would have my own room but
he still has to sleep with me yes i get to choose if i don't want to sleep with him but he has to
sleep with me see yeah i don't like him choosing to sleep without me i should be able to choose
if he doesn't it sounds like you gotta have a lot of rooms bitch that's what that sounds like
you really just need two we're in a two we're moving to a two bed great we got a two bed
ideally i would just like a getting ready room and then yes we sleep together same i don't need
to sleep away from him i just want my own space for my makeup and my shit right this is what i'm
trying to tell sydney straight women want to share their lives with men and she's stunned but i mean
i'm cool with him being across the street you know i'm saying we were talking about abbott earlier
you know cheryl lee ralph has oh yeah they're different yeah because that's what works for
them but most straight women that's great cheryl i'm so i'm so happy for you you live in a real
dream even if they're down with the whole like commune thing they do still you know they they
want a man around they know you know what i think that you're disappointed in them for that
i think it upsets me it frustrates me too but not only i'm jealous yeah i'm not i'm not jealous
It's just like, girl, I could give you the world.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah.
The girls wish they were not straight.
Now I sound like a mouse.
She sound like a nigga, yeah.
You sound like the gang.
Yeah.
I can't use diapers, though.
The girls wish they were not straight.
They wish it desperately.
Do you date men or women?
I date everybody.
Okay, great.
I love that.
I date, but I am queer.
You said queer like it was in italics.
Yeah.
I am queer.
but the queer felt like a question mark because i well because i don't want to be i don't want
to be confused for bisexual see because it's not equal see what's the overwhelmingly date women
overwhelmingly date women well because you see the materials because i see them but because i
have the same standards for men and women and women are far more likely to meet them
so it does feel like an italics b though because you know the b is slanted
so the b is leaning more towards the lesbian which it i tell like b if you really move with
the direction of it it's kind of giving an l no i feel like queer to me feels more what gay than
bi yes i agree because if somebody says they're queer to me i'm like okay you date everybody but
you date one more yes i feel i mean i'm sure a lot of bi people are like girl don't speak for
us and like i'm not trying to i'm not trying to have like a caleb moment where the bi people still
will not leave him alone yeah but i know and you really cannot piss off that community and i think
a lot of them would say oh it's not 50 50 for me either but it's whatever you want to be fine like
i'm letting y'all have that sure it's just i have identified as queer for such a long time
it was lesbian for a while yeah i thought you was lesbian yeah no no no well when i started dating
gender non-conforming people and trans men yeah my one of my boyfriends was like it actually
i would like for you to really think about calling yourself a lesbian
before because you're in a relationship with me with a man and that makes me feel
and i was like damn how many boyfriends you got this oh at the same time you know just you poly
no well no no i just believe in dating no i believe in dating we're we're going out
but you said boyfriends so one of my boyfriends well yes i've had more than one boyfriend
yes one of my boyfriends we're in 2026 people have boyfriends so i'm like you're gonna have to
yeah yeah yeah no for sure and i'm not against that but no i don't think the poly lifestyle is
for me it's I don't even think it's about sharing I think it's just it's more like a why like why do
we especially if you if you coming into the situation like as the third I feel like that's
so that would for me that would be so awkward right it's like you like her better than me
you want to be over here more like I just yeah like I don't know I just feel like that's not
that's not gonna work I know better than to even try some shit like that yeah but dating around
and not being exclusive
with one person,
dating multiple people,
I,
that's...
But I think that's what
dating is all about.
It's what it's supposed to be.
You get to know
a bunch of people
until it's exclusive
or until you have
the time to show people.
The WLW community
lock in way too fast.
Way too fast.
Oh, my God.
One and a half dates
and the girls be like,
I love her.
You're my wife.
It's like,
no.
I'm actually going out
with somebody else tomorrow.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Are you doing it fast?
no no no let's let's let's let's really move into it right okay it's not w l w it's w because women
actually would love to do that with a man but the men are like no bitch i'm not moving in with you
quick i'm not i don't like you yet no but i i do like you but i'm gonna act like i like you but i
don't want to be with you like that so if it wasn't so confusing for heterosexual people because they
date men okay who are not so open i think they would fall with a man just as much as yeah
definitely absolutely i don't know maybe it depends on the woman if you look at it the way
that women date women the way that women date men and the way that men hook up with men it's very
it's it's a gradient right yeah because the women are like very intense about like coupling up and
and growing together and i'm not saying all of them are that and and i'm not saying all gay men
are this
but they look at each other
at the gym
they make
oh baby
that's it
it's that simple
the stories I've heard
about that sauna
girl
girl
the gays
that's a whole nother conversation
I know
I have a friend
he was at the sauna
and it was a
I think he was like
one of the only straight people
in the sauna
and one of the gay guys
leaned over and said
you gay
you need to get out
he said you gay
and he was like no
and he said
well then you need to leave
he had to pick up his dick
and his towel.
He said,
because we do things in here
you're not ready for.
And he said,
because we're about to pop off in here.
We finna.
That's why you have to know
which gyms are the gay gyms.
If you are a man,
you have to know
where the...
Aren't all the gyms
a little bit gay?
A little bit.
If you really care about
your body as a man,
that's gay.
Now, Sydney...
It is,
because those are the ones
who have the abs
and they look good
and they scrub
and they got...
And they're doing legs
and arms.
Yeah,
their whole body is together.
You care about yourself.
Yeah.
Straight dudes
work out from the waist up let's be looking yeah i went on a date with a dude he didn't do legs he
was like peppa pig when he said oh my god damn damn ninja turtle what the hell whatever this
muscle is right here that connects the neck to the shoulder y'all need to stop working this out
put some of that energy into the cab get on them leg machines using your legs
is gay. So that's what
that's about. I think it's because
What do you look like as a straight man
putting your leg down to
lift something up and then pick it up?
That is homosexual.
Homosexual.
It's a homosexual.
Okay.
Is it gay to do legs?
I'm not even doing this for her.
Man. You see this?
This is lift up.
I think it's simpler than that.
You're joking.
I think it's so much
Men
When they look in the mirror
All they see is this
Yes
So that's all they work out
They don't know about
The full body mirror
You go to a man's place
They don't know what you're talking about
It stops here
Guys
Right
They want to see the belt
They got to have the belt
Wear it
What my belt look like
And then you
The pants never ironed
So it's just right here
Ironed
Or steamed
They don't even know
What you're talking about
Girl
The pants
Yeah
And then
They're like in the shoe store
And they have a smaller mirror
Down because they just
Want to see the shoes
So they don't need to see
how the whole thing looks just want to make sure the shoes look right in your life get him a floor
length yeah for a length mirror i think y'all need to do that for valentine's day if you're
dating a man get him a full length mirror amazon got some deals i could actually make a list of
really good full length mirrors we got to move on y'all to click her affiliate link yeah her l tk
i'm sorry that's where the economy is yeah if you're not pushing something yeah you gotta
Let's sell something.
You got to sell it.
I'm trying to move away from Amazon.
Same.
Bring back going to the store to pick it up.
Yes.
Especially here in this fucking city.
I'm like, I should be able to find it in New York fucking city.
We have it here.
I'm trying to move away from that.
It's here somewhere.
So you want to get away from Amazon, but you still like ChatGPT.
It's okay.
I'll ask a couple questions.
Oh, yeah.
She is talking to you.
That's okay.
That's all right.
I'm not putting no more money in Jeffrey Bezos' pocket.
so you don't want to give him money but you want to take away the water that you you love water
yeah sure water's great but i'm not the only person using chat gpt i'm not the only person
using ai me not using it is not making a big enough impact on the world at this day you could
say the same thing about amazon oh yeah but i'm it's not i'm not adding to his his pockets we all
kind of moving away from amazon the people with sense well everybody the people with sense well
i mean chat gpt is probably hosted by an amazon server so in that way you are putting money in
i'm like girl what i i use it for free though
i don't even have an account yeah they don't even really know me like that listen
that little farrah fossa curl you got you're like girl it i mean you're like i i do think
we need to bring back going to the store i agree i want to go to the store i want to get the i want
to get the little shopping bag and swing it all the way home the boxes with the packing yeah it
is a lot yeah it's like that i feel like to me worse yes because you're a physical person and
you want to move around you want to get your steps in so i get it that makes you know i like
to see the product before i pay for it i want to smell it i want to put it on my wrist i want to
i just want to spend my money in the city i don't want to give it to jeff bezos if at all possible
right i would rather but i still subscribe to you know prime video or whatever there's still
yeah it's things where it's like you know i'm gonna do the things that really matter to me
when i can but i'm also not gonna beat myself up too much for existing in this society that
i didn't shape like i didn't ask for there to be billionaires so nobody did i'm just gonna do my
best girl you shaped the society a little bit you've been doing the podcast for 15 years i mean
uh you know my own little culture way yeah we don't have no crystal west mics and whatnot don't
we want we don't have no podcast set up for y'all oh just saying i mean i guess because nobody's
ever thought of that you know who's supposed to then we gotta you because you big business oh
even think it's small you gotta be think big you right you right because i wasn't even i've never
once considered having my own line of microphone yo the way people are buying them that that was
a genius idea i feel like i'm also like constantly trying to get people to not buy them oh well
they're gonna their people are still gonna buy and it's really men don't let all men who want
to have a podcast should have to audition for me first oh and then i will tell you whether you're
now is it gonna be like the voice your chair
yes if i like what i hear then i'll mash the button
first of all that's a show come on
the voice that will change society okay it's the voice but meets the masked singer because
they're also wearing oh lord so you don't get to see they're in a costume they're in a costume
no because we do judge people based on what they look like we do yeah and the great thing about
podcasts well they used to be audio now half these podcasts or if not more have some sort
video component i guess because you know the children need something to keep their attention
while they while they scroll while they scroll yeah they need 15 seconds of your podcast
on their for you page and then i'm very fortunate that more people listen than watch my show um but
yeah the there's enough straight men out here talking we really need to just shut all that down
And then everybody reapply through me.
Yeah.
I like this show.
But also, my question for your mess, I want to know, like, what's your type when you date?
Like, what you looking for?
What do you mean?
You mean, like, physically or, like, character?
Whatever.
What you like.
What you like.
What you like.
A whole lot of.
What I need.
What you like.
Um, so I'm very, I'm attracted to masculine presenting people.
Um, you don't have to.
All right, so we're out.
Yes, y'all.
Put my jacket back on.
Y'all are, y'all are safe.
You like this?
You attracted to this?
This is very masculine.
Back on the manly water bottle.
There's a carabiner on here.
You know, there is a carabiner on it.
Marie, what you know about the carabiner?
What you mean?
She's heard enough lesbian jokes.
I took a gym class before.
You know what a carabiner means in queer community.
It's just like this.
Yeah.
That's why you put it on there?
Yeah.
To identify as a lesbianist?
No.
No.
This is just for me to, like, hook on if I had.
Your keys?
Girl, you.
No, it isn't.
No, for when I'm at the gym.
You take that to the gym?
Where else should she take this?
I mean, I thought it was strictly like, you know
This is not my outside jug
This is all perfect
Where do you put that?
This is for the keys
She strapped this to the back of her body
No, I mean this water bottle
You put it like
On the weights
On the floor
She puts it on the weights
Don't deflect, girl
What is your type?
What do you want?
First of all, you bitches
Y'all
No, it's you bitches
Yes, because y'all were like
You bitches
During Black History Month
You talk to black women bitches
You invented podcasts
and you're going to tell us
up-and-comers.
Bitches.
Up-and-comers.
Yeah, we're beginner podcasts.
Yeah, I mean,
we're just starting out.
No, this is our first episode ever.
You hoes were at Apple Pot.
Y'all were at the fucking
holiday party.
So I don't want to hear it.
I wasn't at the holiday party.
Right, so shut the hell up.
She texted me, she's like,
girl, I'm eating everything.
Everybody's trying to ask
like they don't want nothing to eat.
She was.
Nobody else was eating.
Marie was like,
so they're not going to eat?
Here's me.
Just put in.
I said, girl,
you know these white people
came here to sip something and chit chat we did that last year last year we were eating the skewers
we're beginners but see y'all did this where you asked me a question then you immediately took over
and started doing something else so i never got the chance to answer the question and then you
brought it up and then you did it again let me apologize no it's fine it's fine i don't even
want to answer the question what you need to do they might be listening you know we got a lot
That's what I'm saying.
They are in the DMs.
They are emailing.
Emailing.
That's your mess.
Why don't you tell us about the DMs?
What's in the DMs?
Dykes is in the DMs.
Girl, why do you just say, why do you say that?
Why you don't like the word Dykes?
I don't like it.
Is that problematic?
You don't like it?
No.
The people I date call themselves Dykes.
Yes, Sydney.
So they're older.
You're going to erase their-
So they were doing, so they was in Stonewall.
I'm in my 40s, Sydney.
There was in Stonewall.
I don't date 20-year-olds.
What do you call them, masked?
No, I don't.
I don't say that.
But young people love saying math.
I don't say math.
So, Sydney, what you call them?
I don't call them that.
I just feel like it's so aggressive.
It feels like it was...
Well, you like stud.
I don't even like stud.
My girlfriend doesn't consider herself a stud.
Okay.
She's like, don't call me that.
I don't conform to that.
Okay.
So, she doesn't use any masculine terms?
She just is lesbian?
Yeah.
She was like, I wouldn't mind if somebody called me a tomboy.
but like but not even she's like i just i don't wear dresses like that but i feel like i i have
feminine parts of me that i you're like i'm a woman i just don't dress you know what how a femme
yeah i mean there it really is a spectrum of gender identity even within the queer community
because there are so many just because you know she's a girl in boys clothes doesn't mean she
identifies as a stud or you know how do you tell her about to use that word is what she don't like
did but okay i mean that you know what you're the people you talking to want to hear that but
i mean when somebody called me that i'm like that's i'm not that i would never call you a
dog you're a film now what is a date let me look at it i dare you i dare you to get
i don't use chat gbt on my phone oh that's right only on the laptop when you get home
when you get home you don't want me to use it for research you see this
i just asked siri i type it in so i when the people
girl she's trying to answer the damn question okay okay yeah they're they're masculine
not just masculine presenting but also more masculine of center
um lesbian so it's not necessarily just i prefer boy clothes but you have a more masculine identity
oh it's it was it originated as a derogatory slur yes that's what i was trying to say you can but
it's been reclaimed to signify pride and strength well and so that's the white people so dyke is a
lesbian nigga yes whoa yes whoa correct well this won't be the clip because that's a lot of bleeping
out keep the bleeps in there that's a lot of yeah that's the clip yes that is what i mean when i say
when i'm talking about dykes i'm talking about little niggas but girls but niggas so that i
would never call you a dyke i don't use it the way white people do okay white people use dyke
as like interchangeable for lesbian i don't do that okay but i also i don't call anybody like
i would have never called your girlfriend a stud if she didn't call herself that first because
i understand the identity the identity thing is so personal yeah so that's why you can't just go
off of what somebody looks like um tell them tell them but yeah you really cannot you i'm not sure
that anybody would like why do y'all even think you can but yeah the but they do the the variant
amongst us it's just you know we we come in all kinds it takes all kinds so
because you're queer uh yeah because i'm queer and i date you know all over the gender
spectrum, but usually
it sounds like somebody is up
there jogging. Girl, they heard
Dyke too many times. They said, what's going on
down there now?
They tell something.
They said, what is going on? Are the kids out of
school? Yes, I think so.
Because what?
Stop and wrap this shit up.
I don't even know how long
we've been here. I didn't know we
started. I feel like y'all supposed to tell the person
when you start.
well you know oh i spent nine million dollars a month on rent i mean you were you were one of the
you were making more money than joe rogan ever thought of joe rogan yeah are you sure well i
mean wait what you was talking big shit before um uh i'm not sure i'm not sure what you mean
like the amount of money you was spending i was like off a podcast oh yeah i mean the read is
very very successful you heard that the reason like nini leaks i'm rich bitch well i would
never say that what's going on with nini she's coming back to atlanta i love that you're asking
like i would have no i'd never watch that oh i mean i haven't watched real housewives of atlanta
since and she left since she had uh since since kim zosiak had that little black girl sweetie
that she treated like a man.
I have not watched Fin Fin,
so I don't know what's going on.
Happy Black History Month.
I love that.
But only to sweetie.
I hope she's somewhere doing well.
Not answering to white women.
Okay, now that,
I know we've got to wrap up,
but I just want to-
I have no idea
whether we have to wrap up.
I have no idea what we should probably do.
I don't even know what time it is.
But I've had fun.
This has been a delight.
So now you're wrapping me up
on my own pie.
Oh my God, Sammy.
that's 15 years right there you see that you see the pivot sydney i've had a good time
so it was really nice talking to you okay okay you have got to have you found somebody yet on
that website i sent you when i tell you to give me the name you haven't gave me a name yet ho
sydney i gave you a direct link where you could put in your insurance and everything else that's
like a lot of stuff yeah that's how you don't want me to really get a therapist marie said hey
here's this woman's name
here's her number
she didn't even do that
you also said
don't send me nobody
where I gotta pay
$100 a session
I did not say
$100 a session
now stop doing that now
you don't need to
lie like that now
she said $90
I said $300
that's what I said
okay well
so if you talk about
private pay
you are gonna be
talking about
probably at least
$150, $175
out of pocket
that's why I sent you
the link to put in
your insurance
so you can find
somebody who takes that
and pay a decent
regular normal
amount of money. My insurance tells me
to go on the train and talk to the person next
to me.
Then you really
need to talk to somebody. So if you're not going to
use insurance, then
go ahead and get yourself used to the idea
of spending, you know, a couple hundred
a week on therapy.
You got that.
I can tell you got that. I can tell by the hat.
You can tell by the hair too. The bundles?
You can tell by the bundles, right.
My question is,
it is Black History
and this is this is a tough one for me it's like i know that we do say everything is about race
right but is there a moment where we just walk into the you know walk outside and you're like
i'm not thinking about race at all is there a moment because i was telling marie when i used
to hang out with or maybe it was somebody else when i used to body waitress and i was you know
one of the few uh black people there were so many moments where i i wasn't thinking about race
we were just thinking about drugs and partying and having a good time the dance floor is a
universal space they weren't being like look at this black bitch now did they be like oh you know
that's Coco they would call me you know they would have like nickname like you know I like I
well the person who I'm now I would not like somebody who doesn't know me to call me Coco
yeah but also at that time on Facebook my name was Sydney Coco Loco Washington oh well I can't
be mad at people who know me calling me coco yeah and i caught myself that they might have legit
thought that was your middle name yeah and that you just threw the loco in there to be cute yeah
coco loco so what was drugs they weren't stupid okay so then okay right so we we got a great set
like is there is there a moment where is there times where you walk outside and you're like
not thinking about race no i hear the fatigue in your voice yeah no you know i born and raised in
america and i just don't think i am ever not aware of how race is impacting life and i know you know
sometimes i go to islands or whatever where it's majority black people and them niggas are always
like i was never really aware of race until i went to america and then it was like damn this
shit is everywhere because when you come from someplace where you're the default yeah it's not
you know that's what we mean by race being a social construct and everything because
how you're perceived or how you perceive yourself racially very much depends on where you are but
no i think as a black woman in america who's always been in america i think i'm always aware
of it and i have not made enough money to wear class trump's race you have to be really rich for
that i don't but that's the thing it's like even when you get to that status which i've seen it's
like oprah was denied in in switzerland hermes like she had i mean they didn't know it was her
because she didn't have, you know, that light around her.
But, I mean...
That Oprah light.
That Oprah light.
The Oprah light.
It was the Oprah light.
But there's people who have tons of money
who, like, they still get treated.
Like, oh, yeah, you got that money,
but that's because of asterisks.
It's not because, like, you have money.
You just have it.
So I just feel like...
Yeah.
I think sometimes the shackles of just thinking about...
Shackles.
Yeah, no, go ahead.
Marie, why?
the shackles
of thinking about
the shackles
of the
Hermes
Switzerland store
yeah
well you see how
that story
is such an anomaly
that it's like
the one we know
this is
it's multiple stories
that's just the one
we know
no more questions
I don't even know
honestly I thought
I had something
yeah
and
it's the souffle
when I laugh
at shackles
Marie came in
slamming the door
sinking your souffle
the souffle
Pay me and stomp on the well.
I didn't mean to stomp on the shackles.
She's ruining her.
She had a thought.
She was almost done with her thought.
And then here you go.
Girl, I said.
Girl, I know.
She asked the question.
I said, is this AI?
She too easily distracted.
She's too easily distracted.
Girl, you need to call the lady when you get to the house.
She don't want to use her insurance and she don't want to pay.
Like, okay, girl.
It's going to have to be one.
One or the other.
It's one or the other for real.
A little bit of one, a little bit of the other.
For real.
A little insurance, a little under the table.
A little something.
Hey, listeners, if y'all really think, if y'all want to be taught, you know, really add to a small black business during this month, I think Vimo, your friend who is of color, who doesn't have therapy and just send them, you know, money for a session.
Not is of color, black.
Is of color, black.
This is not POC history.
It's A-A-I-D.
These hoes never happy.
You understand?
No, bro.
It's Black History Month.
Correct.
We get 28 days.
But there's some people
who identify as,
you know,
Afro...
Afro what?
They get a different month.
They get Black History Month
and Latino History Month.
They get both
because they both.
They both.
But the POC
don't be claiming us.
Nope.
They exclude us
as soon as they can.
They're like,
don't put me over there
with them.
Remember what they did
with the college admissions?
Yeah.
Shot themselves in the foot.
Y'all letting all
niggas in like no they said it's too black okay fine and now it's now it's not now and now y'all
not in there now it's real beige in there and you know what happy black history month yeah
how the potato salad tastes y'all y'all ain't even got that y'all got both salad pasta
we gotta go oh wait tell me say bye yeah no no i'm just saying this is chaotic
we've been doing this for two years
please let the people listening know
where they can find you
so this is the end of the show
you would have never known by listening
the godmother of podcasts
these niggas just ramble
you can find me
let's cut the mic
they know where to find you
They heard your voice before
They've been hearing it
For 15 years
They know where you're at
You can find me
Oh yeah
You can find me
At Beyonce's house
You can find me
Every week on The Read
And on Crystal's couch
And yeah
Crystal.com
For all of my links
And details and more
Thank you all for having me
I'm such a huge fan
Of you both
And yes
Love this show
It's such a delight
And so yeah
Thank you for
And if I see y'all
With a side podcast
I'll give that love
I'm going to bless
I'm going to bless y'all
oh
I'm just going to come
take your friend from you
oh
and then do I
hey somebody tried
to do it before
who tried
now we got to cut the camera
yeah
yes
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