MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - Hiding Nothing From NOBODY w/ Rob HaZe
Episode Date: March 27, 2025This week Sydnee and Marie have on THE Rob HaZe to chat burner account MESS! We find out Rob's online boxing lore and the three do Mess or Just Living! Don’t forget to write in your ...messy stories at messthepodcast@gmail.com, or call in at (763) 280-6588 to have your MESSages read live on air! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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listening to miss girl do you want to tell the people what you're going through i talked about
it last episode you know okay you gotta go yeah it's like i'm trying to get adjusted i'm trying
to get my life in order it's like why are we doing this let's all just be on drugs no unwell
it's so much it's so much is there's so much pressure to be like okay i am this age
It's time to get things in order.
It's like, what is in order?
Somebody lay it out for me.
What's the age you feel like you should have it all figured out?
Because I know plenty of adults with gray hair, salt and pepper beards, who still ain't got it figured out.
I am not them.
And I don't want to, they are not my leaders, okay?
I'm trying to shift, you know?
I'm trying to pivot.
Change the narrative.
Capital P.
Pivot.
Pivot.
Pivot.
I'm trying to pivot.
And it's so hard.
It's so stupid.
Like, I saw something.
I was like, oh, I got to pay this.
I don't want to pay it.
Oh, let me tell you how I check my mail.
I open the mailbox.
If there's bills in there and tax papers, I leave the envelopes in there and I close the mailbox.
Yeah.
Is that adulting?
I can't.
The guests look shocked.
I can't.
Sounds like a crime.
Well, it's a crime to open somebody else's mail.
It's not a crime to not open my mail.
Well, if it's in, the thing is if you receive the mail and you open it,
but then, like, you know, if you just say, I never received that, you know,
even though there's proof that it probably was,
but somebody could have went in my mail.
I could have a person come to my house, lose my mail.
How do you know?
Mail is hard.
When I was a kid, it was like, ooh, I got a letter.
It was exciting to get mail.
It was usually a chain letter or something stupid like that
that i was like oh i have to i'm gonna die seven years bad luck if i don't send remember chain
letters yes um but now as an adult my mailbox is full of stuff that literally bills that i don't
want to pay and i forget to pay my bills every month not one bit i just i'm like what are we
doing and then and then what's also crazy is that the stuff that i want to pay for i'm like why is
it this amount i don't want talking about just sephora hall no sephora is not even that's not
even at the top of my list anymore it's just like because i have in my i have my apartment and i'm
like there's just so much that i need yeah and i want i want to be like you know an art person
i want to have art everywhere well we're going to a show in a couple of weeks we are we are so
we are doing maybe we'll buy some art there is it on the calendar yeah that's another thing
that's another thing
I just
I honestly
I walk outside
and like today
I thought that
the guest
we has a show
and I thought that
the show was today
it is not today
it's two days from now
wow
and then I thought
I had another
I thought I had another show
after his show
I said wow
this day is packed
you thought the show was today
I thought two shows
was today
nothing
I just have this
can you believe it
great
crazy
my sis is unbooked tonight
I just want to say that
if you're listening
to this go ahead and slide in her wow that's so rude um should we just should we bring him in and
then do our mess or what do you want it's mess we could do whatever we want to do yeah yeah he's a
friend of the pod he's been on the pod i mean i don't know i you're probably one of the first
guests we had in our like first iteration of unofficial experts so yeah were you at anthony's
house i was like losing some like we work or some offices oh yo we used to pay for a we work
because we thought we were gonna do video but we didn't do it like we didn't do it like this and
look at you now yeah video give it up for rob hayes come on y'all like on this big secret i'm
in the description i know i know it's a bit boo it's a bit i got you rob hayes you got a podcast
called The Inconsistent Podcast.
The Inconsistent Podcast with Rob Hayes.
What's inconsistent?
When it comes out.
Oh, I love that.
What we talk about.
Everything about it.
You've done it.
You did one of the first episodes.
I thought there was a theme.
But there was a theme.
You gave me a homework assignment.
No, there was no homework.
You gave me a quiz.
There was absolutely a test.
The only thing was,
there's one rule that the guest doesn't know.
Okay.
I do remember that.
Yeah.
But no, it hasn't evolved.
But the clips are good.
I see them on TikTok.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm TikTok-ing them.
Maybe, you know, randomly stuff happens.
It's a good time.
Randomly.
Randomly.
Randomly, like our mess.
Marie, what's your mess this week?
Well, I talked about my interior designer quitting.
Yeah, we did.
We did that already.
Unbelievable.
Unreal.
real now is it is it mess if i take all the stuff that we put on pinterest and i decorate my
apartment without her no yeah okay did you pay her i paid her the first payment okay and then
when she hit me for the second one i was like what have you done for me lately you know so i mean i
guess that's messy but that's not what i wanted to talk about today i don't remember what it was
mess. Marie, every time
we get on the pod, you're like
all coy and, oh, I don't know
what my mess is.
And then I fucking bare my soul
and you're like, you know what? That's because you come
prepared to the pod. I lost a pen
at my house and then I spent two hours
looking for my pen. I said, no, bitch, you need
to come. Love is first. Oh, here.
Here is the mess. Okay.
I had therapy yesterday. Okay.
And my therapist was like, just so
you know, I'm leaving this
practice and I'm opening my
own thing and i'm not gonna be able to take your insurance and i said oh i guess i guess we're done
here and she was like well i mean um she was like if you would like to continue working together
we can work together as like i could be your like a life coach and you it could be like you venmo me
and i was like it sounded like you need a life coach because what are you talking about right
I see her every other week
I don't actually even
Really need her
She's just somebody
That I talk to
Twice a month
What do you mean
You don't need her
I don't have
I don't have
Depression
Or general anxiety disorder
It's not something
That I need to be
Paying out of pocket for
My insurance is paying
Which is why I keep doing it
Yeah
And I honestly
Use my therapist
To work on bits
Like I'm testing
Marie
I'm working on the
She's gotta be here
Marie that is mess
It's mess
That I use my therapist
for jokes. Marie, you don't think there's
anything to work on?
No. I don't even need her.
I just talk to her.
I just be here for, you know,
an hour every other week
to chat with my good sis.
And when she laughs, I be like, I'ma write that down.
Marie. She's taking notes, I'm
taking notes.
I have, I mean, I have insurance
because of her. I have a credit card because of her. But
you know, I'm not about to be paying her
like $150 an
hour or whatever. Marie said
i just want y'all to know on the pot she said she doesn't need a therapist she good she don't have
anxiety depression all that shit that we got i have anxiety but not to the point that i need
somebody to like calm me down i'm not medicated yet um but i just i don't know i just i feel like
she'd be going on vacation i didn't even know therapists could take vacations yeah she'd be
traveling with her family and
talking to me about her birthday party
and showing me videos of what she wore.
Girl, okay, now that's why you don't want to pay her.
I'm not paying you. She's unprofessional.
Yeah, that's a little unprofessional
to be like, look.
That is wild.
Hey, girl, if you're listening to
the pod, uh-uh, you might have to
hand in that certificate. No, I love me
some of her, though. Not enough
to come out of my own pocket.
We are friends. She be texting
me articles about dating shows and i'd be like what i need to incorporate hey girl no that's not
that's not how you do it i'm sorry wow that's should we have her on on the pod that's great
rob what do you think about that i mean it's it's the vimmo you know it's it's a lot going on it's
a lot going on she's just like you know in two months uh i'm not gonna be here no more they're
gonna reach out to you to to link you with a new therapist here and i was like i gotta start all
over again i gotta i gotta start from scratch with another therapist yeah i'm healthy i'm healed
all right i'm delivered all right i i do think that your therapist taking a vacation is probably
healthy yes for her or for me for everybody because you you see somebody having you know a
healthy relationship with work where they take a break and then also they you know you might be a
fun visit but other people be going through it be unloading be having problems and they got to take
all that in they can't discuss it with anybody you know give them some time to go to the beach
now if i was a therapist if you was a therapist you wouldn't discuss nothing with your with your
partner you wouldn't be like babe you wouldn't believe what my client said today not directly
yeah yeah it would be very coded you know but yeah they probably come out in an argument you
don't know what i'm going through my clients out here on the streets you know what i'm saying
you worried about the garbage yeah that's me as a therapist that marie she be texting you
that's wild yeah she don't text me like you know hey what you doing today but like if she reads
an article or she specifically dating shows happening either live or on tv she'll message
me stuff like that like articles for me to read but you'll be doing dating content it's probably
like she knows she knows about that yeah so she's you'll be in the home depot and stuff yeah she's
like my assistant no wow okay that oh it's a lot this is all mess i would love to hear what the
people have to say about this because this is just that i this is new to me it's more than me losing
a pen sis i lost i lost you're right you're a therapist and a friend fully fully uh my mess
for friend it's like you know hiring friends like not hiring friends but like having a friend do
something like working with friends I think is mess because there's just like the boundary the
expectation like I have a friend he's you know he's very cool he's helped me move um you know
he helped me put my couch together he made my um Halloween costume now all these things on paper
thank you so much but like there's things in between that you're like yo if i just hired
someone then there would be no back and forth or like like yesterday like yesterday he came to put
my vanity together and i was like oh i'll just pay you what i would pay you know a task rabbit or
whatever right but like you know he didn't finish so i was like oh you gotta come back but if it was
a task rabbit i was like you need to finish this today okay how long was he there for he was there
for some time and he was
doing his job. A couple hours? We weren't
really talking so
I just feel like a
task rat. I don't know. Maybe
they move faster but no he was actually doing his job.
I don't know. It's just like if it's my friend
and I'm looking at your face I want to say
something to you like hey
but you're my friend so I wouldn't.
But if it's a task rat I was like so how
long do you think it's going to take you?
You can't say that to your friend. So how long do you think
you're going to be here friend? He said I gotta
leave at 10. I said what?
I thought I had you for the evening.
10 a.m. or 10 p.m.?
10 p.m.
Yeah, I would want to leave at 10 p.m. too.
Girl, what time was his call time?
I think he got there at like 7.
So three hours.
Three hours.
And the vanity is still not assembled.
It's still not done.
Yeah.
And then, but when he like stepped in or whatever, he's like, so what are we eating?
I was like.
But this your friend.
But he's asking what are we eating because you have fed him before.
Yeah.
Plus, if I'm thinking nighttime, I'm working, you got to eat.
I got to eat.
You might as well eat together.
You're right, Rob.
I'm your friend.
I done painted you green on Halloween.
I done did all this stuff.
I painted you green.
You know what I'm saying?
It was actually, he made me doja, so you're wrong.
I painted myself green, and it was bad.
But when you said, what are we eating, did you assume he thought you was going to pay for him to eat?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what did y'all eat?
we went to the
Forma Pasta thing
that was so good
I want to order it
again today
I love Forma Pasta
it's so good
the best
it's affordable too
I mean after you do
Uber Eats
you're like
I should have just
took the train there
but it was fine
it was great
so you did feed him
I did feed him
you didn't Venmo
request the $15
no but I think
what it is
is like when you
host people
there's like a
like an expectation
when somebody comes over
or you ask them
to come over
like people don't
know how to host
no more
and that's what it is
it's like when you
host make sure there's beverages make sure there's snacks and you know we're gonna have to eat so
it's just like now it's host but you hired this person you paying them for a service but now you
also hanging out with them but it's a friend when i was a mover people would give me beer
people would give me pizza well they obviously didn't want the job done right because why are
you giving at the end at the end at the end nothing broken hey we got some beers over here
You know
I don't even drink beer
But after a move
We'd be like
Alright, get it
Crack open a cold one
I'll take a Quarrel's light
You got PBRs
Right
Yeah, but I think
So how many movers
Would typically move with you?
It'd be like
Three of us
Yeah
Three people
A pizza
A case of beer
That's probably cheaper
Than what you spend
For two people to eat
Forma
True
That's the thing
I think
You should've been ready for this
and have pre-ready
your cheap food option.
You know what I'm saying?
Because beggars can't be choosers.
So it's like,
we eating cheese pizza.
That's what we eating.
You know what I'm saying?
I got Elios.
Cheese pizza is a mess.
I'm done.
We got to stop bringing pizza.
Like, that can't be the go-to.
Oh, we getting pizza?
It's easy.
You don't like pizza?
You from New York
and you don't like pizza?
It be all kind of times on set.
They be like,
you know you're not supposed
to eat pizza on set.
But we getting the pizza.
Why you can't eat pizza on set?
Because it's messy
It's not a croissant
Or a Nutri-Grain
Yeah
Those are the messiest
Right
That's messy
Pizza is like
But I'm saying like
Okay if people got on
Wardrobe and stuff
They shouldn't have
Like you know
The risk of pizza sauce
So what the hell
Can you eat on set?
A bagel?
You supposed to
Well first of all
Food's supposed to be
Separated from the set
Oh okay
You know what I'm saying?
Talk to us like
We ain't never been on set
Tell them
You asking?
it no no that's me because we ain't never we ain't never worked before unbooked oh wow
y'all worked all kind of stuff four things away from an egot
come on cynthia
no doesn't she have a tony i think so and something else i think she i think she got
like three of the things yeah i think she is very close yeah very close thank you for seeing me as
cynthia though i do racist um black roberto you're here for your mess what what did we figure out
what it yeah rob what's your mess what you want to talk to us about my mess is um i have a burner
account and you'd be like liking butt pics what you'd be liking i don't be liking butt pics on
the burner he's a married man i'm a married man love butts that's neither here nor there
there and he's from atlanta he's not that kind of atlanta it's for uh you know arguing with people
i can't with your chest now what do you do with your burner account okay my regular account right
i'm an enthusiast of information you sometimes people don't have all the information i'll be
wanting to give them the information okay people online don't like facts they like to argue so then
there's somebody that comes along they want to negate the information they want to insult me
they want to use the fact that i'm a comedian to insult me and then it becomes a whole back and
forth now i got people i look up to that follow me i got all kind of people that follow me they
don't need to see that who follows you just give us something to tell us the people you know my
heroes i don't want them to unfollow me because i don't know who your heroes
you check on and see if they say yep they still follow me okay yeah shout out to rihanna
hey yeah i'll be like let me just see yeah dl ukeley was following me i don't know if he still
is but he did yeah yeah that would be dope that would be dope yeah so we're gonna check uh rob's
followers yeah we will and we'll post it in the dump yeah we'll put it in the dump uh i mean like
one time uh susan sarandon commented on one of my jokes that was really cool you know i don't want
her to see me arguing with somebody about the shamar moore years of soul train you know i'm
saying i don't want her to see me be like actually uh it was not communicated how don cornelius was
doing at that time like they don't need to see that okay susan sarandon yeah yeah she made sure
me and um in a high school that me and my class was able to go to cuba oh wow she she sent some
black kids to cuba yeah she did well it wasn't just it wasn't even allowed in cuba at that time
but susan sarandon made it happen you hear that susan sarandon is the original passport bro
I'm not saying that
She don't follow me
And she said
Send me to Cuba
Wait did you go?
Yes
You went to Cuba?
I went to Cuba
With my
I actually won
I won to get in
Like you couldn't
You had to like
It was a contest?
It was a contest to get in
With my class
And I was
I was one of the
You know like
It was like 12 of us
What did you have to do?
I can't remember
But
I got in there
I got in that bitch
Doesn't matter
She did it
We was in Havana and whatnot, and my host family didn't want me because I was dark-skinned.
They said, they, I, somebody translated for me and whispered, they were like, oh, they
didn't want the, they kept calling you negra, because, I mean, I guess I am negra, but they
were like, ew, the negra.
Not like, yes, I am, girl, you know you negra.
I guess.
But shout out to Susie.
Oh, that's sad.
Yeah.
Did you get a new host family?
Yeah, yeah.
They wouldn't let me back in.
I went out late and I didn't come back in time.
And so I was just buzzing, buzzing, buzzing.
They wouldn't let me back in.
They said la negra late.
Yeah.
Almost said they say late in Espanol.
But I was like, y'all black, y'all know we all late.
What are you talking about?
Girl, let's give Latinos for Trump.
No, no.
Okay, so Rob, you're a troll.
Is that what you're saying?
I'm not a troll.
But it does make me think, who else am I talking to?
who else is doing this yeah you know because like the most vicious people online be the people
that like you try to respond and be like this person doesn't accept like their name being added
you know and then you look in their account no following private account but then they going
through all your stuff talking about you like oh if you so anti-capitalism why are you selling
your special for money you know and it's like all right are you selling your special for money
Yeah, what else am I selling for?
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Hugs from Susan Sarandon.
And I, yo, I have not made, you know, like, I don't know if I broke even.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, it was, yeah, it's for the love of the game, putting a special out, you know?
We'll make sure to share it also.
Yes.
We'll put that in the dump.
Right.
No, I don't want sympathy from you.
I'm just saying.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's why I go over to the money.
We're here supporting a small black business.
What are you talking about?
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
Saying you don't want sympathy.
You sound like my therapist when she was like, you can vent on me.
You can vent on me.
I will never get over this.
We might have to revisit this.
My girl.
Yeah.
Yeah.
okay so when you so then i go over to the other side yeah and then now it's time now
now i'm yourself now you like this you like this no no yeah no picture no nothing now we can go
yeah and then they don't be wanting to smoke they don't be wanting to smoke with the burner
uh but now why make a burner why not just block all of these people from your
life because i want them to know that they wrong i want them to like is it you know i'm saying it's
not that they got to me that's one thing if i block them then they're like i got to him
But then if some stranger comes
And like
But it's not even a stranger it's you brother
They don't know that
It could be anybody
It could be Obama's burner
But you don't think that
You think you blocking them makes them go
I got him
You don't think you hitting them up on a burner
Makes them think
I definitely got him
Nah
I think they think like
Oh the world is against me
So do you do you do you have because it was because for me, right, if I'm in the if I'm
in the comments getting eaten up because that's what they say, you get what they eat you up
in the comments, right?
I'm getting cooked, right?
How many people like how many people are going at this person?
Because if one person is going at me, that's nothing.
But if it's like, you know, 20 plus people, then I'm like, oh, shoot, I really I really
might have said something wrong.
I mean, like, honestly, the way things work, you just need one person to get something started, and then other people will feel empowered to, like, piggyback.
Hop on a bandwagon.
So if I say something good enough, now I got people who agree with me on my side.
Now we rolling.
So are you on the burner account in the comments of your main account?
Yes.
It's mainly the shade room, but yeah.
Why would you waste your time there, friend?
You on the shade room
That's where I be
That's where I be
I be in the shade room
Now we're going to go to the shade room
We're going to try to look for your burner
No, no, no
Don't do that
Everybody
Everybody listening
We have to go to the shade room
And figure out
No, I be having comments
Go platinum on the shade room
Instead of Rob Hayes
It's Hob Rays
That's what we looking for in the shade room
I have to find out
Yo, this is the where's Waldo, because we are going to find you on this burger.
But that's the thing.
If you say something, people get personal real quick online now.
Oh, they go to your page, they scroll back 17 weeks,
and they be like, that's why your grandma passed.
And you be like, whoa, what?
That has nothing to do with this.
Right, we talking about OJ Simpson.
But if you said, that's why your mama dead, I'd be like, well, that is a fact.
And you said people don't like facts online.
And I'd be like, well, factually, you're not wrong
They do hate facts online
I'm trying to see all the people I blocked
I saw the Shade Room
Posting
It's your, you're the problem
Why are you, we are not looking at
What the Shade Room is saying
Just block the Shade Room
He can't, he's never even thought of that
How am I going to get my news?
From the news
Rob
Okay, what did the Shade Room post say?
Okay, okay
Gene Hackman and his wife died
And the dog
And I was surprised that I found out
They found them all dead today
This is the first time I ever
Seen
I found out about it on
Baller Alert
I've never seen Gene Hackman on Baller Alert
Who's Gene Hackman? An actor
He was Lex Luthor in Superman
He was in Hoosiers
He was a coach
Crimson Tide
Was he the villain in Speed?
Was that Gene Hackman
The one that was
Missing a finger
I don't know
Speed was a good ass movie
Speed was
Let me look
He was in
He's been in a bunch of stuff
Let me look him up
Okay so
Old school though
Like
Gene Hackman
Okay
So
Wow no way
Yeah
Look at Sidney
No
Yeah
Wait
Hold on
At first it's AP News
But you got it from
Shade Room
No Baller Alert
I got it from Baller Alert
And so then I was like
Yo this
rob it's you you are the problem i know but that's why i was like oh this is serious because
i'm finding this out from like black media right so then the shade room posted and all i said was
wow the shade room knows about gene hackman okay this person responded on your on your burner
or no on your actual this person responded to me oh only your family knows about you
oh maybe that's maybe that's gene hackman's ghost family member that's the ghost burner
yeah that maybe that's the burner but i wasn't saying i wasn't saying that gene hackman wasn't
famous i wasn't saying it i was just saying that you were calling him white famous you
weren't calling him black famous i was saying the shade room don't already doesn't post about him
but then this person then this person responded to me and was like well okay so then in response
of that i said i'm trying to figure out the puzzle that this sentence is this is a puzzle
everything that you're saying to us right now they responded and they said your trans doctor
could figure out how to put your humpty dumpty face together and then that's what i was like i
am talking to a crazy person yeah this was a time for the burner i was gonna say sans the trans
doctor part the Humpty Dumpty part 8
I was like oh that's pretty good
you think Rob looks like Humpty Dumpty
I don't look like Humpty Dumpty
I ain't an egg
you calling him Humpty Dumpty
you said if he fell right now
that analogy I like that analogy
if he fell right now
that hat I have on right now is Humpty Hump
ish
not Humpty Dumpty
do me baby
it's kind of also given coming to America
but it's not Humpty Dumpty
okay but i just i like sydney is the troll no sydney was on baller alert earlier
i don't have a i don't i don't have a burner account i have a fence okay you think you're
better than me okay yeah because i would not waste my time like this but this is good thank
you for coming on the pod but also gene hackman is white famous because when i saw his picture
i was like oh snap same way cindy reacted right if i just heard the name i'd be like yeah hackman
is that is that with a j is that with a g i'm like who is she who's jean jean damn marie jean
because jean is it is like is that a haitian name no that's jean jean okay
i was just trying to relate to you sis lol okay so you said you shouldn't have responded with
your actual page you should have done it with the burner account why not why not jump in with the
burner after that i should have but i you know if i have some free time maybe i will i don't be
wasting my time don't circle back now do you ever use the burner account to get at people you
actually know what you mean get at like you know when you're sometimes your friends and because
like i i it's there's like it teeters it teeters sometimes you'll post something right like a joke
and then since we all have friends with comedians people be in the comments trying to tag your shit
or try to be funnier yeah and it's like no that's not what this is about just say ha ha that that
was funny you know what i mean oh no no if i if i thought of a tag or something i'm gonna send it
to you direct i'm not gonna i'm not gonna put it for the world to see that that defeats the purpose
but if a friend did that,
would you come with your burner and then be like,
nah.
Okay.
So this is really more for like petty purposes.
That's petty.
No.
Like,
okay.
If there's somebody that I don't rock with.
Yeah.
And they like,
they getting cooked.
I might go like it from the burner.
Oh,
cause like,
you get back to me on the main,
you know?
So I'm a,
I'm a like it from the engagement of them.
Getting cooked.
What?
On the burner.
What I want to know is how long the burner been active.
Yes.
This is important.
Honestly, I regret not always having it.
I regret not, like, already building up followers and, like, different stuff from the old days.
And then that way they'd be like, this is a real person.
So it's from 20—you started it in 2025?
I won't say when I started it, but—
Because then you could go back and see when it started.
It has helped.
It has helped me from, you know, tarnishing the brand by just being out here all willy-nilly with my own account.
So, Rob, you are psychotic.
I thought that's what this show was.
Oh, this is mad.
My bad.
I thought it was psychotic.
My bad.
You're listening to psychotic.
Ooh, you're listening to psychotic.
Oh, God.
Wait.
So you don't have any followers on this?
I don't have any followers.
And there's no profile?
But also, I'm private.
Okay.
So, I'm hiding nothing from nobody.
Nothing from nobody.
Hiding nothing from nobody is the title of this.
I just want you to know.
So, you don't have, like, a fake photo posted?
It's just zero followers, zero posts, zero likes.
No, it's a photo, but it's like a stock photo.
It ain't no, like, yeah, it's nothing real.
Rob might not be alone.
I just, if you, if you are resonating with anything that Rob is saying today, I need you.
We won't know.
I want you.
We won't know.
I want you to put a little palm tree in the comments.
Because I, I have never felt compelled like this, but maybe somebody else has.
People have fake, people have legit whole fake pages.
Right.
And it's, I feel like a lot of times it's kids or it's people who live in other countries.
Right.
And they want to argue and then you go to their thing to block them or to drag them or to, you know, make fun of their hairline or whatever.
And you're like, oh, there's nothing here.
This is a ghost.
I didn't know I knew people, though.
That did it?
Yeah, I just thought that was, you were the first.
Do you look at Rob differently now?
A little bit?
I just know that Rob is very busy.
Right.
He has lots of gigs.
He's always, you know.
He's always employed.
you know working in an award show or you know a show period in a writer's room so i
you do this when you want like when you sit on the squatty potty i mean they make it real easy
to just like you know jump in and out so yes i'll be jumping in and jump out so whenever i text you
and you don't write back in enough time i'm like so what you on your burner account no you've been
You busy on the burner
Busy on your burner
I'm not
I'm not busy on the burner
It's just
You know
It is what it is
What would you
I'm wondering right
Cause like
Maybe I need to start
A burner account
Girl
Because I just don't
Did you say girl
Yeah
I said girl
You've been judging him
This whole time
And now you're like
Maybe I need one
What you gonna do on it
Well
Tell the people
Look into the camera
The thing is
In my heart
I don't want no problems
Like, when people say stuff to me on my page or whatever, or in my DMs, I just, okay, thumbs up.
But there's a part of me that's like, no, right back, bitch.
Stand up.
Get at them.
So now, if I get a burner account, but even if I get a burner account, I just feel like I'm not, I'm better in real life, like, talking shit.
I don't think typing it out.
I just, as soon as I start typing, I'm like, this is, why am I doing this?
I almost posted a clip
from my burner.
That was crazy.
What?
A clip?
Yeah, like a stand-up clip.
From your burner.
You got confused.
You got confused about which page.
Ew.
Oh, my God.
I would be so mad
if it did better than my page.
Well, you know what?
Okay, I will say this
because I be in the Reddits.
Well, I haven't been in there a while,
but I've been there.
Yeah, I don't even have a real Reddit.
I checked it, but I don't.
I'm only fake on Reddit.
No.
I was in Reddit.
This is when I was really rock bottom.
And I used to be in Reddit.
And there's, like, comedy pages, right?
Yeah.
And they say, like, if you are in these pages, like, you can't post your own stand-up.
Like, somebody else has to.
So, what it, I was like, there was a moment where I was like, should I make a burner account?
Post one of my, because that's how a lot of people are getting followers.
They're posting in the Reddit
And then it's going viral there
And then it's spreading
What if I start a Reddit
I post you
You start a Reddit
You post me
Actually we don't have to go like this
Everybody post the person to their list
I was in some thing where it was like
You put in
You like pay a service
You put your Instagram in
And then everybody else
like they got a
like and like
comment on like 10 people
and then. It sounds like the thing
that my mom does with all the Haitian aunties
where everybody gets money. Oh the susu.
It sounds like a susu but. Is this a comedy
susu? For social media. It was a comedy
so it would be. A solo. I was
the only comedian in there. It was
other people just trying to go viral
and so yeah I would put comments
on people's stuff and they would like get mad
if you didn't put a comment and so
they'll check in. It'd be like yeah it'd be
motivational speakers and i'd be like yeah man changed my life you know so what i'm hearing is
everybody has too much time yeah truly social media really has changed the world right right
it's crazy do you think we'll ever be able to go back to a time before this i don't think we'll
be able to go back and i think it's also affecting everything i think i think so many of people's like
apathy uh towards what's going on in the world is because they're just bombarded with it so much and
we're seeing the effects of that now i feel like um you know the way we consume music the way we
listen to music the way we you know our relationship with art is all affected by social media even the
news right i watch i'll read an article or like you know skim an article and i go right to the
comments i've been like what they saying yeah yeah the comments is truly sometimes what makes a
a story or a post more interesting people are doing amazing work in the comments i like i just
want to say the things that people are i can't say for you what you mean no rob hayes at rob hayes
you see a comment of mine in the shade room platinum platinum
4,000 likes
If you're listening
To this guys
We don't normally
Promote Shade Room
But we gotta go
Go to the comments
And see if we see
Whatever
Just like it
Just like it
My wix takes
Uh
Zero one or whatever
Wherever
Yeah
If I see it
Okay so
What celebrities
You think got burner accounts
Um
Or who need them
Like Azalea Banks
Says stuff
Okay
Loud with her chest
And she's been banned
On
multiple platforms
multiple times. So we know Drake
got a Finsta and we know
Summer Walker got a Finsta.
How do we know that?
Because we've like
they've kind of basically been exposed.
Oh, I didn't know about this.
I didn't see Drake Finsta.
Plot twist.
It's like a bunch of T's or whatever.
I'm screaming.
What happened with Summer Walker?
It's just her like
it's like Galactica
or something. It's like space and
stuff. But yeah, but then they
turned out to be Summer Walker.
I think Beyonce got a finster.
But Beyonce's definitely got a finster. She always
knows what's going on. But I think that
because she has people on the
internet for her telling her. I think
she's... Nah, because she always has her phone
in her hand. She's
doing something. I've never seen her with her phone in her
hand. Are you serious? She be
having her phone in her hand. Show me a picture.
examples of drake's fence i think that i think jay-z's got a finster i think jay-z's got a uh
a burner effects i think he got a uh what's that like a fake x i don't know i just made oh oh
old old twitter okay yeah yeah but i think he's got i think he knows what's going on on twitter
spaces i think you know i just i'm i'm like i love everybody having freedom of speech but we
they gotta stop it's it people are saying too much and to the point where they fear nothing
and that's that's the problem i think with you know these burner accounts these trolls these
anybody it's like this is stuff you would never say to anybody's face ever the only time i've
seen somebody really come out and say something in somebody's is in new york city in the subway
that's when people are really popping off yeah and giving it yes suck my fucking that people are
really you know i got into it with this woman on the like the other day i almost got into a fight
on the train with this crazy tell us tell us what happened how is this not your mess yeah
the train thing was like two days
but it was it was rush hour i'm trying you know it's a lot of people on the platform my train
pulls up i'm like excuse me excuse me excuse me i'm pushing through the crowd my bag hits this
lady's bag and she's like oh hell no now i gotta follow you and so but i hear her say you were like
i'm every easy
the train is packed so i'm i'm standing right in the doorway she's like you could have said sorry
i'm like i said excuse me several times she's like but you could have said sorry she's yelling
everybody on the train is looking they all you know it's embarrassing i'm too cute for this
so obviously she was not cute so she you know because pretty girls don't have time to fight
so she's yelling and but i'm like i got my glasses on she wearing glasses i'm not about to fight you
you're not about to hit me but i'm not saying that i gotta keep cool right and this is one of
those times where the door is not closed in the train just sitting in the station and um she's
like bitch you lucky i had a good day today and i feel the bitch wash over my whole body but i'm
like i'm still not about to do this she clearly has nothing to lose right so on a good day on
right this is this is you on a good day i said and i hope you continue to have a good day and
she was like no you have a good fucking day and you have a good fucking day and that also could
be the title of that episode that's right and then she walked away and everyone on the train
is just like you know they're like looking over the pole there's a dog in a backpack sticking his
head up the people on the platform looking at me like this and then the doors closed and this old
dude behind me was like you handled that really well you did i did and everybody on the train was
like yeah they were like glad nothing popped up because we really have somewhere to go
we really have somewhere to be i had a rice crispy treat waiting for me at the house i was busy i
have plans but that like the way she was talking it was like i think she's used to people either
not backing down from her or she's just somebody who's unhinged and bored but yeah people people
are crazier now than ever i think the pandemic made people more ticky ticky boom um and social
media has made people bolder than they would have been if you saw them in real life yeah not in new
york though i'm not threatening people yeah i'm not i'm not on there just like yeah i'm not on
there being a different person i'm just on there being anonymous that's all being anonymous but
giving information but giving information you are informative do you read no i don't really
do you read
nah I don't really read
wow
you think you know somebody
you think you see somebody smart
and then you hear them say something like
nah I don't really read
I can't believe
the work that we do here at MET
I thought that you read too Rob
you thought I was going to be insulted
you thought I was going to be like
how dare you ask me if I read
you got a carpet on and you don't read
what's the last time you read a book
yeah
I read
The Catcher in the Rye
The coldest winter ever
I got a bunch of books
I got books that I take with me
and stuff, I just don't be dragging them
You just hold them
Are you a bring a book on a plane because you're like
I'm going to read on this flight
Last flight I was on, the book was in my hand
and I just went to sleep
I think that's a kind of
But the book was like right there
It wasn't even cracked, it was just like
It was on the table
yeah so wait how do you get your how do you get your facts baller alert baller like no social
media but then i watch a lot of docs documentary docs i read a lot of uh of stuff online um
i guess i guess i i guess i do read i don't read as many just per se books and they say like novels
helps your brain and your imagination so i'm trying to read more fiction but i gotta get back
I used to read a lot as a kid, but as an adult, I'd be trying to read, and my eyes are like, what?
And my brain is like, what did I just read?
And I got to go back to the top of the page.
It's hard.
What about an audio book?
Can we do audio books?
Oh, yeah.
No, I'm good with audio books.
The only thing, I can't drive and listen to an audio book.
I get too into it.
You'd be crashing?
I don't be crashing, but I'd be like, I don't remember the last couple miles.
The last couple?
How does the book be that good?
I'm picturing the book instead of like where I'm going on the road, you know
The thing about like being on the internet or Instagram or whatever like sometimes I want to repost
post things that people are posting right but that means i have to fact check everything like
either the information could be right but it could be coming from um a bad page or a page from a
person i'm like but you're problematic right this is good so that's why i'm like i don't even repost
stuff anymore even if this could be helpful i'd rather do my own work and then we like just post
the information you doing your own research yeah because infographics or the things that i just i
It's just too much.
A lot of that was happening during Black Lives Matter
and then the pandemic,
this with COVID.
And then you take something,
you repost it,
then two hours later,
oh, I got to take that shit down.
I was having to take down stuff so much.
But it's like,
the information that we're getting,
how real is it?
Or how right is it?
Yeah, I was going to repost this thing.
I don't even remember what it was about.
But then I saw
What page it was
It was like
It was like
Israel forever
Or something like that
And I was like
Oh
Let me see
Let me
Yeah
I said
It was about the California fires
And I was like
I'm just not going
You know
I tried to find the original
Where the original post came from
The source
Also
I only share stuff in my story
So you got 24 hours
To cancel me
You know what I'm saying
yeah i ain't putting nothing in my feed but you know stuff that i created i made i own or you know
could highlight the person who did you know like but yeah so in my story that's where like i repost
other people's stuff i repost you know different stuff that i see and then i feel like people's
relationships with social media should be like oh yeah i i should you know if i'm really gonna
like take this uses i should fact check it on my own like it's my you know i'm not trying to
spread misinformation but at the same time at the same time if i'm spreading it that means you
misinformed too you trusted me too much i don't read you did say that but you watch but you watch
documentaries documentaries are books for people who can't read yeah yeah tell us the last
documentary you uh watched the last documentary i watched uh i watched a lot of the snl stuff
i watched uh i saw the luther doc in the theaters twice twice yeah never too much
i didn't know you were a big luther fan what did you gather from a huge luther fan i'm a big
quiet storm you know on the way home from a gig turning on the oldies yeah so uh make you fall
asleep it was no so you could listen to an audiobook and get distracted but listening
to quiet storm don't make you like miss smiles i'd literally be in the car like who's no i'm
not going to sleep i'd rather have
Dance with my father
Those are not Quiet Storm songs
This is my father again
It's not Quiet Storm
No
Name some of the
Quiet Storm
Quiet Storm is like
You know like
First of all
The DJ's always got
A deep voice
They're always like
And now it's evening time
Yeah
And that was
Dance with my father
No
They playing
They playing like
You know
SWV week
I get so weak
They might be playing weak
They playing the like
You know the slow body roll songs
You know what I'm saying
They playing the like
They playing you're contagious
Oh the Isley Brothers yes
They playing that
Yeah but they might play
Make me say it again girl by the Isley Brothers
They might play you know what I'm saying
They might play
Yeah they playing stuff from before we born
But yeah, they're playing Luther
They're probably playing
A house is not a home
My endless love
They might play that
They might play endless love
Okay, Marie, so you do know the song
My endless love
They're playing like wedding songs
They're playing like
Yeah, the slowest songs
But on the radio
And that doesn't make you want to go to sleep?
That's what I'm saying
Or it doesn't make you feel
Love music
It doesn't make you feel
I'm just being
I'm just driving
Let me lick you up and down
Do you say stuff
Maybe
They might hit them with a little
Cause tonight baby
I wanna get a reek in with you
Yeah
They playing silk for sure
They playing silk
Should we listen to the choir story
No
I don't have a car
I'm telling the Uber driver to turn off
I think we need to
First of all, we set the tone
With the Uber driver
Hello, how are you?
Do you mind?
Is it FM or AM?
FM
Quiet Storm is black people Delilah
Yes
Delilah is white people
Slow songs from back in the day
yeah yeah the more you know here yeah i didn't i didn't know he was i didn't know he was so
well versed you never been in the car at nighttime with your parents oh no well you know i lived with
my great aunt uncles and they weren't in the car no after after 7 p.m no they was not on the road
they shouldn't have been on the road yeah we was we was back at the house we was watching jeopardy
Yes, Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, all that good stuff.
See, my mom would pick me up from debate practice Wednesday nights.
And this is why you got a burner, because you was in debate club.
Now we get the Orde of Fortune story.
Captain, this is your show, Rob.
How you turned into a troll as a kid.
You did debate, and now that's why you're fighting people on the internet.
Every Wednesday, 7 o'clock, they play Fire and Desire.
We sing Fire and Desire.
Talk to us about what happens at debate practice, please.
The people want to know.
Okay, so I did policy debate, which is like basically it's two-on-two.
And there's the first speaker and the second speaker.
The first speaker presents, you know, something.
the next first speaker um negates that presents like an alternative the next speaker the second
speaker that's that was normally me responds to that so i'm normally like i would be making fun
of you know their their arguments i would be saying how they didn't answer some things that
we said or whatever and then they have a second speaker that responds to me and also we did
cross-examination so we ask each other questions and it's like being a lawyer it was it was some
pre-law like a lot of people that go into law and stuff so i mean you were just like baby
johnny cochran a little bit in school i had a big tub of files
you said that i was gonna say you were like akilah and the beat yeah
yeah so uh in school i had a big tub and it was like all my different debate files all my
different folders and stuff i went to debate camp and like were you a nerd do you even have the ass
you don't have because the thing is is that you you got the swag show the shoes you got to show
the shoes show the people show the people the shoes where do i show we got to cam here at
i think you're the first i think you're the first to show your shoes get it like nobody a nerd is
not wearing those i mean i'm a nerd i think i'm i'm into things that aren't you know i'm not like
i don't watch anime and i don't you know i'm not like you just but yeah but i get real nerdy about
the things i like like i like hip-hop i get real nerdy about hip-hop i like sneakers i get real
nerdy you know i'm gonna be a nerd you're talking about the history of these things and like dates
and like yeah if i no matter what i did i was gonna be a nerd if i was in a gang i'd be like
You know, the Crips started in 1968.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that was just going to be me.
Did they start in 1968?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Don't fact check me.
Don't fact bang on me, please.
They're going to run up on you.
It was actually 1966.
Yeah.
I think it's messed, just the word nerd, because it has, like, this negative connotation behind it.
Like, oh, you're, like, a loser, which you're not.
You just have a lot of information.
Some nerds are losers though
Some nerds are losers
I feel like nerds is not loser
Dork is loser
Some nerds are dorks
Like the people who are like
Air Pierre can't be the Green Lantern
He's too light skinned
It's like alright
Do y'all know what we've been through
You know what I'm saying
That's a racist
Is he Green Lantern
Yeah he's gonna be Green Lantern
Well he got them green eyes so
He booking
Yeah
That is somebody who's
They got contact
It's Mufasa
Yeah
You think if I had green eyes
My career would be farther
I could see you being
Like a little
Like a
I think so
DeWanda Wise
DeWanda Wise has green eyes
DeWanda Wise
Green eyes
I could see that for you
Rob don't think so
But I think if I had green eyes
I don't think that your eyes
Would stop you from anything
I think
Yeah I think it's my eyes
Marie you're already so far
Yeah but I could be further
Further
Okay
If I had
The Mufasa eyes
I got bummed out today
because I saw that they said LeBron left the heat.
I'm already, I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm in it still.
One second.
Because they took his cookies away.
His cookies.
And I was like, LeBron was eating cookies?
Like, I've been blaming me not being in the NBA
on, like, not having cookies.
And, I mean, by eating cookies since I was a little kid,
it was like, maybe if I did.
Like, real cookies?
Not the cookies, like, the cookies, like,
when you, like, on your computer.
This is, like, real cookies.
No, like chocolate chip cookies.
Like the cookie monster.
So LeBron left the heat because they took his cookies?
Yeah, they took his cookies off the plane, and he was like, I ain't coming back.
I'm taking my talents to...
Did you get this from the shade room?
I got this from Dwayne Wade on a podcast, on Instagram, on a clip.
Okay, that's a reputable source.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
rob you take us through so many hoops and loops that i just can't even i've been blaming the
cookies on me not being like athletic like oh because i ate too many cookies i could be in the
nba it's because you a nerd are there nerd basketball players i'm nerdy about basketball
for sure but are there nerds that play professionally yeah i think so who's the
nerdiest basketball player you think of
like all time? The nerdiest
basketball player. Can you be an athlete and a
nerd? Yeah.
I think Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown.
NASA wanted him to work for
them. He went to Berkeley. He's a
good man. He's a great
man. Jalen Brown.
He's the one that won the Super Bowl?
He won the NBA
championship. He was the
finals MVP. He is. You know what?
I'm gay, but I'm not blind.
He's a beautiful man. He treats
his fiance good.
Oh yeah, you think about
Jalen Hurts.
Oh no.
Sidney wet
for Jalen Hurts.
You
confusing Jalen Hurts
for Jalen Brown actually hurts.
Y'all
Jalen Hurts
has been wearing berets
and y'all clowned me
for trying to wear that beret to
SNL.
We did not clown you.
What color was the beret?
I remember you.
It was black.
I don't know.
Because you looked like Judy from Doug.
I was clowning you.
I said, who is this Langston Hughes?
And you were like, yeah, listen, SNL's been around for 50 years.
I mean, you know, black people are going to clown you for anything.
Right, right.
You could read a book and people would be like, this nigga reads.
It doesn't matter what you do.
I do have a show tonight.
That's crazy.
Sydney.
Jalen Hurts
Give me your hand
Not with me
Wait okay so
We have to do
Mess versus living
We're thinking it on the top of the dome
Mess versus living
I got it okay so if your friend
Is getting cooked
In the comments
Is it mess
To just be like this is on you bro
Or do you think it's important for you
to get in and help your friend
while they're getting jumped?
Do I agree with my friend
or do I agree with the comment?
Do you go in and, like, you know,
fight some of these people who are saying stuff about
your friend? I'm going to fight on
behalf of my friend
unless I agree with the
cooking. Like, if somebody's
cooking you and I'm like, hmm, I kind of felt
like that, too. I ain't going to, I'm not going to
interact with it, but I ain't going to jump
in. I'm going to jump in if I agree with you.
Or if, you know,
off the strength i'll jump in for sure okay here's my mess so that's mess met so you being like i'm
not getting in it that's living okay that's living for you yeah no you're not getting involved i'm
even though you have a whole burner i'm going to hell i'm not living you yeah you got a burner
here i have a question for you is it mess or just living because the definition of a burner account
is a temporary social media profile
created to maintain anonymity.
How long you think
you're going to keep this burner for?
Is it mess to have it for years?
It is mess to have it for years.
And, you know,
temporary is in the eye of the beholder.
No.
Temporary feels like maybe,
you know, six to eight months.
You know, maybe.
Maybe, who knows?
You're not letting it go.
I've been on IG since 2011.
so you know it's like in the scope of that a lot of things is more temporary than you know 14 years
2011 it's 2025 now you haven't burned it since 2011 no i didn't i wish i did i wish i did it now
no is is it mess that duane wade was on the podcast talking about um lebron james cookies
because it's been speculated for a while it's been a rumor so i think he was like clearing the air
like nah I don't already got a statue you can't take it down I'm gonna tell the truth he took that
man cookies LeBron left do you really believe that I it sounds like it sounds so silly I think it was
a power thing I think it was a like you know I make all this money I am like the best player on
the team and this is like my like release I like on a plane to like eat my cookies or whatever
And instead of having a conversation about, you know, hey, we don't think you should eat the cookies, blah, blah, blah.
We have research, blah, blah, blah.
It's just like, oh, you just took them like I'm a kid.
And so I think that's when it was like, if I go to Cleveland, they'll give me all the cookies I want.
I don't understand.
Was it chocolate chip steroid cookies?
Why?
He's a professional athlete.
Right.
They won a championship together.
Yeah.
So it's not like LeBron James was showing up
and he was like, he had crumbs on his jersey
and he was just like, I need to sit down.
Like, take me out.
Like, why take his cookies?
That's this.
That's like, yeah, but that's the thing.
It's like, I'm the boss.
You might make more money than me,
but I could take your cookies.
I could take your cookies is also an amazing title.
Oh, is it mess?
to like if you know your friend does this occupation like if your friend is a mover
is it mess for you to like hire other movers or is it living it depends if you know if you know
that your friend does the job can do the job you know then yeah that's mess you know like like
when i was a mover i wouldn't have felt no type of way if you didn't hire me because you know i
was struggling you know i was out there you know i'm saying getting bruised up out there you know
like yeah weaseling out of stuff trying to trying to not trying to not work you know i'm saying rob
you're so tall and you got muscles what i mean but yeah i guess because everybody got them but i
don't i don't be everybody's not having them i'll tell you that much i mean like i'm saying the
human body okay you know you take the skin off i think it's muscles there you know i'm saying
you are a mess and i and i think that um we learned a lot about burner accounts and but
also i learned a lot about you so much about you okay i hope i hope i hope i don't regret
no don't this is phenomenal i hope no i hope the clip is not do you read
do you read what we're gonna do we're gonna start up top people like people don't want
facts and then i'll ask you do you read you're like no no no and i'm gonna be and it's gonna be
let's get some reaction shots right here you don't read what can you read can you read you
don't read i can't read i read i read i know you read i mean you're in a writer's room well you
could write but just because you could write don't mean you could read just because you could write
doesn't mean you could read another title damn we are really 100 100 for 100
Tell the people listening where they can catch you
Yes please
If you want to catch me
In real life
Rob Hayes
On everything
On Instagram
On TikTok
Drop the burner
It's going to change every day
The day is going to keep changing
It's a lot of twist with a lot of juice
Anyway thanks Rob
Thank you
Thank you for having me.
It's so much fun.
But you're living too.
Yeah.
You're a living mess.
I'm a living mess.
Thank you so much.
Mess with Sidney Washington and Marie Faustin is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcast.
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