MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - Hot, Loud, & Wrong

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

Another solo episode this week where Sydnee, Marie and Andrew discuss hot billionaires, what makes a diva and why ghosting is never okay. Enjoy!----Listen to The Unofficial Expert Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus:https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus----BUY UNOFFICIAL EXPERT MERCH:https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-unofficial-expert-podcast----FOLLOW THE UNOFFICIAL EXPERT:https://www.instagram.com/UnofficialExpertFOLLOW SYDNEE:https://www.instagram.com/JustSYDbwhttps://twitter.com/justsydnycFOLLOW MARIE:https://www.instagram.com/Reeezyhttps://twitter.com/MsReeezyFOLLOW ANDREW:https://www.instagram.com/mcgui_guySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

forever dog grand risings beloved yeah um so you know we we obviously spoke before the pod and uh we're gonna be coming in a little hot uh which is fine are we coming in hot or you coming in hot yeah andrew don't speak for the heat coming off my body i mean like you're like this is like a blanket term that you're throwing over all of us right and it's just you i'm fine right andrew i'm fine i'm fine i'm not pressed about anything i'm not pressed about anything you gotta move back from the microphone sis sorry i'm i'm all the way back i'm holding it look how far it is yeah girl i mean i turned my volume down and it's still loud in my ears that's that's what i'm saying well maybe because you're using the iphone headphones there's a little different

No, Sidney, don't do that. Miss, I'm coming in hot. You coming in hot, loud, and wrong, sis. Hot, loud, and wrong, that's a great title. Like a Little Caesars pizza. That's a great title. I'm Fine, that's a good title. There was another one that we missed.

Sidney, it's been a minute. We're 60 seconds into the podcast, sis. Okay, all right. We'll catch another episode title, I promise. You're right, you're right. uh so obviously I I was saying something before the podcast and they let me know that I need to I need to speak up more when I have an issue I need to say how I feel instead of complaining to my counterparts and they're right they're definitely right but it's hard it's definitely

hard when somebody writes you or they say something to you and you're like and then you wait on it and you're like damn i should have said x y and z well that's why it's important to like like i'll draft a text or draft a message sometimes and then i'll be like you know what i gotta come back to this and i leave and come back and then sometimes you feel differently after you've had some time to think about it but other times it's like this is what i mean and this is what i'm sending and i think that's nice too do you ever have someone look at your texts like to like review it um not really i mean i've done that before i think just like is this is this okay yeah because it's usually when i'm trying not to hurt somebody's feelings i'm like oh yes

yes you definitely been like what you think about this because right i'm the kind person and then you meet somewhere in the middle because you know that i'm too kind right usually i have to you know what i mean because like when you're trying to spare somebody's feelings or when i'm trying to spare somebody's feelings it makes the whole conversation a little bit harder because when you don't have to think about it you just say what you mean and you mean what you say andrew oh yeah i totally agree i had like a situation a few months ago where uh it was a comedian that said something to me that was like very messed up and they thought that it was a joke and they thought it was like very funny and i was like wait i can't have a

relationship with you anymore oh what was what whoa what was said you don't you don't know this comedian i'm sure we don't the uh the comedians we would know would never speak to you like that and well we don't even know what they said i know that's not true there are people that we all know um uh but they made they made some jokes um that were in very bad taste uh like we're trying to get the tea what happened what did they say it's about it was about like children and i didn't like it and i was like i need to lose ties like like like a bad like pedophilia joke yeah it was like i don't like that joke at all like that's like weird that your your mind even produced that yeah we're not affiliating with

comics that talk about pedophilia no and so not really like i yeah yeah i drafted an email and i like went off and i was like this was disgusting i hated that sent it to a friend and the friend was like you can't say any of that because that might come back and like bite you is like oh you were aware of this and so i was like oh what do you mean you were aware of what of them being a creep of this person being a creep and then like if i was like aware of it then it was like okay then andrew why didn't you intervene when it was just like okay andrew but just like just step away but you you sending that message is you intervening yeah no that's calling them on it yeah that no because i just lied and i was just like no i can't

work with you anymore it's just not oh you oh you didn't want to even work with them no i was like I can't work with it because they they crossed like a few boundaries before and they were like who do you masturbate to and stuff like that and it was like wait sir are y'all cool like that like that he thought that we were and I was like no no no and the first few times I was like maybe this is like I don't know what this is trying to justify it but it was just you know but then is this a straight man no okay oh wow what weird flirting is this yeah who do you masturbate to is it me yeah very weird that's a that's a good title i don't know yeah i mean you know the thing is about like comedy and friendship and working

especially comedy the lines are very much blurred they're so blurred you're like oh i i feel like we're mad cool but it's like but we actually work together because i mean that this happens with me and andrew you know from time to time and i i like when you you know put me in my place tell me actually as me putting you in your place i'm just like voicing right concern for the record yeah okay i don't know because i don't want people like clear my name yeah i do not want it to seem like okay when we end the recording andrew is like sydney go back to your corner Clear my name, clear my name I love that for you

Clear my name, another beautiful title Y'all are on fire today Not us, you just You, it's It's not us It's not us as you Well you know what Is that another title?

Maybe Yes, honestly, it could be Today is my four year anniversary Of being sober Yay Clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap thank you and I'm feeling a little wonky today I'm a little I feel like displaced or all over the place I don't know but mentally emotionally mentally

emotionally I think you know I'm leaving tomorrow to go to San Francisco or whatever so I have to do all that stuff but I think like I am I am proud I am proud of where I am right now but I'm also I feel I definitely feel all over the place I it's hard to articulate but I I don't want you guys to be worried don't be alarmed I'm not gonna go like get a drink but I definitely just I I don't know how to describe this this moment well i mean it's this is the longest you've ever been sober yes so that is an accomplishment in itself but also like something to like sit and reflect on because i mean we talked about this yesterday you you relapsed once before and you know this is something it's it's in my phone it's it's in my phone it repeats every year and I think

that you know sometimes maybe that's the wrong word that I want to use I just think that it's something that obviously it changed your life forever and this is something that is is not easy for some people I mean you see what just happened with Keisha Cole's mom yeah um R.I.P Frankie right some people get sober and they you know they they can't stay clean for whatever reason um but addiction is addiction is something that like being friends with you i've learned more about than i've ever thought that i would know um because i don't really have any addicts in my family um but it's it's very common i think especially in the black community yeah so yeah It's a big deal.

Yeah, I mean, I remember when I relapsed and we were in Starbucks and I was crying and you shed one thug tear for me over the empanadas. And I was like, okay, Marie. Empanadas. We were eating empanadas at Starbucks. At Starbucks? There was like a little empanada truck on that corner. And we brought it into Starbucks.

And this is why. That sounds like us. That sounds like us, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, my God. i was so i was so disheveled in a mess and i didn't have no weave in i had my my hair natural and shaved on the sides and i was just like crying looking i remember that hair moment sydney with the natural hair for like a month yeah no it was a couple of months but yeah you were definitely

affected and you were like what are we gonna do well because it's like as somebody who is very nudist but also somebody who's trying to be a good friend this is this goes back to making sure that i say the right thing so that i don't hurt somebody's feelings i also feel like for me like i'm not trying to be selfish but i have to be selfish sometimes you know what i mean like if we're trying to create something together we're trying to work together and you can't you for whatever reason can't can't be where you need to be that affects me as well yeah you know and it's like I want to be there for my friend I want her to win I want her to feel good about herself and I want her to like make smart decisions but I can't make those decisions for you you know and

so like somebody left a review the other day on on iTunes and they were like Marie and Andrew need to be nicer to sydney whenever sydney says something they attack her sydney did you write that review look at your face no they're like my good sis can't even get her words out without them shutting her down and it's like when it comes to somebody when it comes to addiction or when it comes to things that are like serious like that i don't want to say the wrong thing and then be the reason why somebody relapses or be the reason why somebody has a bad day and then they like take it out on themselves because of something that i said so you know empanadas in a starbucks with thug tears uh yeah i remember that day too and i remember exactly where we were sitting but

like that was that was kind of a rough day yeah you know we were trying to take pictures we're trying to change outfits it was like I was like why are we even taking photos I don't know we love that was the same day it was it was the same day we had we had a photo shoot that day and you didn't have hair no I didn't have hair I have the pictures that guy Sean that guy Sean Sean Priestley that's where we know him from yeah you I want you guys to know that if Marie looks at you like she doesn't know you it's it's not because i don't it's no i don't my i i will forget your face and your name and then people will come up to me actually i bumped into him on the street once and he's like marie hey and i was like hello and yeah we were we were at

old to babble and he was truly trying to have a conversation with you and you were your eyes were cross-eyed you were like who is this you were like why is he talking to me like he knows me and i and i had to whisper like pictures photos he took photos of us and i was like photos photo you're still trying to think about it it was it was so many years ago though to be honest it to be fair it was like five years ago so i know but also like can we be honest about this if you bump into me in the streets and i'm giving you the who that is face just give me some context cues clues give me some context clues so i can be like all right fire island 1969 or whatever like give me some well you know what it is it's like people it's also ego because it's kind of like

so wait you don't know me like we've we had that moment but like the moment you thought we had that was your moment that wasn't our moment right that was your moment uh sweetie uh wasn't a moment for me um did something memorable happen the last time we hung out if if it did then maybe i'll it'll be easier for me to remember but if like we just met once and had a conversation you know while sneaking food into a starbucks then i don't know if i'm gonna remember you it's a it's a tough one it's a tough one but because like people want to feel known and important especially from you my friend so like nobody wants to be like uh you know that comedy show they want to be in the street because it's also kind of embarrassing like when you're in public and you're like hey

and the person is like uh they're not giving you the same energy back because they're just trying to figure out who the fuck are you yeah but we've all seen somebody waving and wave back like do i know this person yeah and then you look behind you and you're like oh they wasn't even that wasn't even for me for you yeah that hurts too that definitely hurts i i am not here for that it's like if you meant to wave to somebody else still wave at me still wave wave back at me right i I mean, Sidney, if you wave at somebody, they should be honored that you're waving back. So that. But also, like, I mean, it's embarrassing, but it's kind of funny, too.

We've all been there. And you're like, who, me? I thought you meant me. I don't know. Maybe you'll meet the love of your life that way. Whoever, somebody who's listening. Okay. Sounds like a rom-com, Marie.

That's what I'm saying. It's like Made in Manhattan, except someone's waving at you. And you're like, yes. And they're not looking at you. but now they are there's a conflict somewhere you get married j-lo's in that movie i i think it's coming out uh in the fall yeah j-lo j-lo j-lo i i'm like when is she gonna wrap this up with ben i'm i'm tired of seeing the photos do you think the sex between them is cute like do you think they're having good sex i can't say i can't say he looks miserable in every photo

and every photo with her he looks like damn dude why why do we gotta be out with this why can't we just be hiding in like another country doing why do we have to be in LA he doesn't look he doesn't look comfortable I watched um the Justice League movie and he looked like he didn't want to be there either he was like a sloppy sloven batman I said that's Bruce Wayne what Ben didn't do not a sit-up not a push-up not one arm curl he just showed up to set and he was like i don't need makeup i'm gonna do a little bb cream and i'm ready for the cameras it was he he looked disheveled he said y'all know my brand what's good sloppy dad sloppy single dad yeah but i'm saying they're having good sex though i feel like she's like

glowing in every like picture she's upset that's facetune um no but this is paparazzi come on i think that like they are obsessed with one another how can they not be happy i think j-lo is obsessed with herself and i think image is very important to a woman like that and she knows where the cameras are at all times because she may be calling them um or not but i don't think that her looking good look yeah he look he looks stressed at least he has on a clean cream sweater they look fashionable that looks like the painting of like the the two farmers with the pitchfork yeah because j-lo except j-lo has a track sewn in yeah yeah but j-lo makes these dudes wear fucking color coordinated similar outfits it's like she'd be low-key emasculating them

sometimes like i could tell that they i think so that they do stuff because she wants it that way i want it that way you are ain't nothing but a heartbreak wasn't that song number one on trl for like 10 years or something it was like a year um yeah i don't know i've never wanted to match with a man that i was dating um yeah it's not necessary maybe i've never been in love but i've never wanted you were that and i'll wear this um i mean if we both show up somewhere and we kind of accidentally match then that's funny to me but i mean the thing is is that i think if you have really good chemistry and

you guys hang out a lot, you'll just randomly start wearing similar outfits. Well, it's not even about the chemistry. If they can dress cute, I'm wearing that sweater. This jacket is mine today. Oh my God, did I accidentally... Right, I'm taking

your stuff. I mean, I have stuff from... What's his face that I wear still? What's his face? I love that. We don't even know his name. But what's his face, sis? what is his face what is his face great title what is his face wait speaking of what's his face um so i was at an event the other day uh it was like a weed infused dinner and i went with carolina because you know i was like people were like oh i want to come i want to be high with you

and i was like well there's a list uh but carolina was the first person that i thought of so she's the one who got the invite and so we're at this thing and you could tell there's money in the room First of all, a ticket to get to the event was like $200. So I'm already coming into it like, if you have an extra $200 during a pandemic, then I want to hang out with you, right? So we get there. I had on this sheer dress thing with the side boobs out.

She looks fantastic. Fully waiting for the Janet Jackson nip slip. I was turned on. Wow. Wow. Okay. I was. so sydney when are you not wet let's talk about it who do you masturbate to

so uh i could tell there was like art people in there and it was like startup money in there looked like money at one point i walked by this table and this old old like don imus type man was like you are wearing that dress and i was like and he asked me to sit at his table and i was like no i'm you know carolina's right over there he's like well this guy's getting ready to leave you can sit there when he leaves and somebody at the table was like this the table you should be at right i could tell this guy was rich just based on how hard they were laughing at his jokes at the table right like i was like he must have paid for everybody's ticket at this table because they had to right like you know when someone's like not really that funny but you're

like it was that it was that um they do on the bachelor all the time yeah they're losing it that's what they do right because you want them to think that you love them or that they're great i don't know anyway i don't know found out later that this man was a billionaire um like what there were two billionaires at that event and he was one of the richest people in the room and i said i sensed that and i should have sat my ass down and um it's just actually kind of devastating for me because i really they said they said he gives women ten thousand dollars in cash just for fun i said i i like fun and i like cash so and you just and you were so concerned with getting back to carolina for what like i was confused carolina literally never given me money in my life and not

one bit not a day not a 20 not even 20 yeah they said she's and my source said he has a broken hip so he can't have sex work i said this is my type of sugar daddy broken hip and billionaire and generous and then and didn't he just buy a hotel he just bought a hotel downtown lord have mercy jesus christ we could have we we could have been at a pool this summer marie i mean we could still be at a pool this summer sis but yeah i'm uh i really fumbled the bag on that one and uh the next event i'm not bringing carolina i'm gonna bring a young hot single friend that is more desperate than me maybe desperate is the wrong word but a young hot single friend that just wants to do everybody in the room so that like we can all mingle and then reconvene and compare notes

after the event you know what i mean oh i was like i mean i am i'm like i'm your hot friend that likes to mingle but you don't smoke weed sis no no you're right and it's a dinner for wheat like everything had wheat in it it was all infused it was really good but what you said you're gonna bring a brown bag lunch we're gonna be eating duck breast and you're gonna be eating what uh no a beef patty with swiss cheese i love a beef patty with swiss cheese it really be rocking my world honey swiss cheese swiss cheese swiss swiss swiss cheese wait marie was this guy hot i feel like no described okay no okay it was not andrew i think most most did you hear me say don imus wasn't he like melted candle wax he looked like the candle from beauty and the beast

that one went over my head yeah yeah and how many how many billionaires do you know that are hot oh i mean we've talked before i think that bill gates isn't terrible looking i know i wouldn't say that he's hot i just i'm googling hot billionaires yeah let's let's see who comes up truly truly worried about you that you said bill gates is not terrible now i want to i want to check your glasses oh how about kylie jenner i mean are we including can you can you bleep that out can you bleep that name out so people you know we don't talk about those people here okay that's new that's new money i'm talking about billionaires that have been billionaires you're right okay been billionaires been billionaires that's a good title thank you

been been been billionaires okay there's this norwegian guy named gustav magnar witzo he looked like he might be your type andrew does he oh he's cute 1.6 billion marie it's all white dudes marie the air to h&m marie t what if you just start liking these dudes um instagrams see if they see if they you don't think other people are liking their instagrams no i don't i don't think you don't think that they have like a small skinny blonde girl with big titties attached to them at all times i don't i truly don't i'm sorry i'm sorry that i'm like i don't have any hope i'm like who is like i'm like please go to their instagram and see what they're even posting i feel like

their last post is from like 2019 right people who are like really really rich and busy business owners are they don't really care about social media why would they yeah they're not posting to their own account no way right yeah they definitely have a finsta okay this guy that started snapchat four billion dollars what did he look damn sydney let's let's start an app he looks like a puffy bruno mars he looks like the guy from insecure that was dating um molly don't believe me just watch he does wow you are you're good with these descriptions that was good and then this is the oldest billionaire on the list let's look let's travis kalanick 6.3 billion dollars he's not even old well he was born in 1976 i don't know how old this photo is oh okay

because it looked like he ain't got no top teeth though oh he ain't got no top teeth or top or top lip top lip yeah top top lip gone front teeth gone okay but now let's talk about it sydney yeah so if you were single yes and you were at it was you in that situation and the man said actually andrew this question goes to you as well okay um and this man who clearly had money i felt it i felt it in my haitian poor ass bones not poor middle class bones i was like this man owns a franchise or something the energy coming off of his old ass was like i was like this this person has money but a lot of it so somebody like that says to you you should come sit at my table what do you do how are you playing it differently than how I played it I mean girl I told you about the

time that I uh went on a date with one of the biggest art dealers in the world and I was looking at him like oh he looked regular degular to me but then I ended up going going to dinner with him going to lunch and then back at his townhouse and then i and then i finally googled and i was like oh bitch i definitely fumbled back but he wanted to like hook up and i just couldn't but i definitely would have hung out we went we were out in the sun the sun was on people could see they could see both of you guys yeah it was you know how much older was he oh girl at least 30 30 35 years older than me oh i was like he was 30 no 35 years old wait andrew i'm gonna i'm gonna show you a picture of the guy because i have it in my phone i was 24 25

i'm gonna say he was close to 55 okay i mean but 55 a black 55 no it was not different than a white 55 it was not a it was not a white fit it was not a beige 55 is different it was not a black 55 at all it was not even an asian 55 oh yeah but look at the girl see that look at the girl sitting next to him i see yeah look at her look at her like she's look at his face like she's in the she's in the photo but it's it's vacant behind the eyes listen i would let that man give me ten thousand dollars in cash and i might even let him like you know play with him a little bit you know what did you even talk to this man about what were the conversations like don't do that i'm just saying that's what i would be concerned about that question what were y'all talking about

i mean i talked to him about he well he was an art dealer so i i told him it's so funny he was laughing at me he thought i was so funny but he was laughing for the wrong reasons but i was like yeah i used to work at the whitney museum and he's like oh did you what did you do i was like he said he said a curator and he was like so sweet yeah no no no he was i i'm thinking like i'm doing something like i'm flexing he was like oh really so what did you do at the whitney museum and i was like i was like i was a youth insight he's like on i was like a docent i was like a young docent and i would do tours for like kids and senior citizens and he's like oh my god that's incredible but at the time i thought that he was like pleased with that but he was totally shading

me the whole time he was talking to you like as if like you were a child yeah he was kicking he was kicking at me i was like i was i was like oh my god i loved ellsworth kelly you know andy Warhol like I'm shooting off names I don't know who Ellsworth is so it sounds like you know art to me yeah but he's like that's he's like that's like basic like he's he's an art dealer

like so he knows the names before like everybody before they're in the Whitney Museum like he knew about Damien Hirst before Damien Hirst blew up Sydney honestly and truly this is kind of hot that you know all these artists I don't know none of these

Damien Hirst I'm writing it down so when i do speak to a billionaire i could say yes at the house yeah right damien you know damien and i what do i know him from well if we ever went to um what is that in miami they they like art basel art basel if you go there we'll learn about all this stuff we'll like learn about the cutting edge artists that are now like selling their pieces for a million dollars or whatever should we start doing art because i would like to sell a million dollar thing how does an artist become like how does an artist blow up in 2021 i i think it's like for some reason from what i've seen some of it has been chance some of it has been connects

some of it's like you know the right person you you like somebody has an eye for art sees it and then boom everybody's jumping on that bandwagon it doesn't even have to be good it doesn't even have to be that good but Damien Hirst was doing something that was like he was taking butterflies like obviously actual butterflies actual butterflies that are not alive and, like, putting it to, like, a painting, but then drawing the rest of the butterflies, like, with paint. So some of the butterflies are real,

but you don't know, you can't really tell. Like, the painting looked so close to the real butterflies that it was incredible. So he was murdering butterflies. I'm pretty much. Oh, they used to have his art at your old job. Yeah, girl. I remember the dots.

Yep. the dots oh yeah million dollars for dots just dots well that's the thing right is people are sheep it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what it is if other people tell you something is hot yes there are people who just believe it a lot of people don't have taste they got money but they don't have no taste money with no taste that's a great title thank you that's not even no taste that's not us though that's not us we have taste well we don't have any no money but taste no money but taste actually that's a better title i like that oh right but like because like cardi b has money but no taste you don't think

she has taste sis those birkin first of all birkin bags to me have always been ugly they look like very ugly briefcases and i understand that it's a status symbol i don't understand why it's foolish it's a waste of money yeah literally thousands like a forty thousand dollar briefcase girl if you don't take your ass to the tj maxx it's just like no but it's also like a briefcase but also bowling ball bag like yeah it it it doesn't look like like fashion no but if you I mean if you're gonna say something doesn't look like fashion Anna Wintour is like the most well-known person in fashion and nothing about her is fashionable to me I don't know the the bang the shortcut the bang and sunglasses feels like fashion to me it's iconic but to me it's like she's not she never

invented any like hot you know what I mean like she she wears what she wears it's always like a tweed suit moment it's always a cord she just I don't know I don't get it she said I am not the body

for the fashion that I have the eye for but I'm going to be the curator of the fashion which is fine you could do that I think you can have a good eye for something and you're like but I'm still gonna have my own look that's that's okay i don't know if i would say that she has a good eye sis i mean you've seen these vogue usa covers they are of all the vogue covers in the world usually the weakest okay come through wow i usually i didn't kiss i didn't know now this is kind of

hot that you're telling me about these vogue covers look at look at what vogue india is doing look at what vogue arabia is doing look at what vogue even like japan like their covers are just better than the american than the american covers they're better they're better magazines you heard that you heard it here first people you heard also remember andre leontali he was showing up in a hefty hefty hefty bag and he was like this is kato and it was like sir sis please y'all are the tops of the american fashion world and this is how you showing up yeah but i think in a Snuggie? Hold on. Hold on, Marie. But I think that

is the tea. Like, the people who had the most money, the most influential people in the room usually don't look it. They don't look it. Whenever I would work at a Rose Bar, the people who were the most well known or the most important

was just wearing like a regular black top, black pants, black shoes. That's different. That's business. This is fashion this is fashion you showing up to it like i understand like the people who are the richest you know the mark zuckerberg's the what's his name the one that died the iphone dude oh with the sweaters steve jobs steve jobs they're wearing the same thing they don't have time they got money on their mind they're not worried about what they're wearing they're just gonna wear this

it's gonna be the same little simple outfit but it's gonna be an expensive i don't know merrell or ked or designer white sneaker that we're like ew it's gonna be all that stuff they're wearing is expensive it's real simple but they don't work in fashion anna winter andre leontali worked in fashion and you and his book came out he said he had no money so i don't know he wasn't the richest person in the room but he was like anna left him hanging she didn't look out for him and it was like but you were up under her for years but why would you think that a person who's wearing sunglasses like in inside of buildings all the time is gonna look out for you oh i i just don't see it she don't see it that's why she got the shades on that's why she got the

shades on honey she don't see you but i'm saying like the movie the devil wears prada was based on was supposed to be based on anna wintour merrill was serving looks in that movie the hair was doing something cool like anna wintour is giving kate spade is giving white woman from nantucket pearl necklace it's not giving high fashion to me yeah it's not giving edgy it's just like like who who rich auntie is that like she looked like a widow she looks like she came into some money because her third fourth husband died and she just wears Tiffany's and eats at you know Barney's restaurants or whatever like it's not it's not giving fashion I love Marie talking her shit you know what what is fashion for me like I'm always looking at the

price tag like I'll look at the things that I like I like at the things that I want and then the things that I like you know maybe a couple of degrees away but you know you can't you can't follow the trends you you have in order to be a trendsetter you have to look at something and see that it's like

it Marie showing pictures of Anna Wintour dragging her she looks like a college professor Marie dragging yeah but these are what is this but these are the people bang these are the people that we give the power to who is we we can't give no power to her

anna winter has been alive anna winter been at vogue longer than we've been alive really how long i don't know i'm like how long how old is she is at the met gala i mean this truly probably the most the best that i've seen on her um how old is anna wintour let's guess how old do you think she is i think she's uh 60 oh she's english i didn't know that i don't know if i've ever heard her speak she's 71 whoa and she's a dame dame anna wintour and she's been at vogue she's been editor-in-chief at vogue since 1988 i was right damn talk about talk about job security girl you know you know how many people she low-key had to murder you don't just you don't

stay at a job that long because you do a good job okay you are you are fucking over people left and right sis we we saw the devil wears broad i remember miranda had a little list yeah she said if you fire me this is a list of photographers designers um people that will never work for your magazine and it's like yeah anna know where all the bodies are buried anna yeah she's been stepping on people and over people to stay where she's at and i don't know she she's still doing it sis yeah like honestly to to be that committed it's kind of hot the commitment of being like the bad guy is it's it's it's cute i like it for her commitment to being the bad guy i couldn't i couldn't see her being nice like if she was nice i'm like does she have dementia what's going on

what's she going through well certain people you don't expect them to be nice no like i don't expect mariah carey to be nice i think she's guarded i think you you have to be guarded you have like you were trying to explain that to me last week uh a la you know sydney's sydney's doing too much everybody don't need to be your friend and it's true like you you have to protect yourself especially in the public these people like you said they think they know you they think you owe them something because you they support you she doesn't i don't know how nice i'm gonna be if i blow up you're still gonna be nice girl don't do that um you're still gonna be like oh my god take my number down like you're still gonna do that don't don't do that sydney you're

you're not gonna change into a mean disney villain um but i'm saying like certain celebrities you see them and they seem nice they seem chill yeah mariah carey has earned her diva status guarded or not i don't think any like i don't i don't think that if i met her she would be a friendly person you know what i mean like people were in the comments last week talking about like miley cyrus and i was like i feel like miley seemed like she would be you know she probably won't even have on shoes when you meet her she seems like she would be chill there's like different there are some people who are just not

nice yeah you said that like at a certain level you earn the right to be diva and like rude to other people no no no no no no I don't think am I saying that you said something about like she's earned

like this diva status and by she's earned the diva status okay but like by diva status are you saying that like diva in like a good diva like or bad way where it's like demanding the m&ms being rude to interns whatever i don't know about demand i just think look mariah carey has had a really long career yeah right she's been out probably the same amount of time anna been editor-in-chief yeah um but she you know she's got the the record she's got the you know she has she's proved herself to be

one of the top to ever do it so yeah i feel like the the diva thing is like the cockiness that comes with like knowing that you're the best yeah at what you're doing and no one else can do it like you so yeah i'm gonna be a little bit of an asshole like you work for me or i don't need to know you but you know you know what i mean like i just that's what i mean when i say i feel like she's earned the title of diva okay she's earned that level of whatever it is that she's doing um but also let me tell you another thing i don't like these labels about like diva intimidating not nice these are these are ways to describe a woman that you deem as powerful and you're upset about that like because just because you don't feel like

you can speak up oh that person is intimidating and it's mean it's just like no that person is not kissing your ass and all up on you that doesn't make them intimidating yeah but diva's not a bad word diva's not a bad word the definition of diva is a famous female singer of popular music or a self-important person who is temperamental and difficult to please yes that that's the one that people are using diva for it's usually well yeah but i think you have to earn you got to be you have to be popular famous before you can be a diva you can't be a diva if you haven't accomplished anything no i agree yeah you can't be a diva if you haven't accomplished anything and if you're difficult to please it's like you've been good at what you've

done for so long that you have a certain level like you set a certain standard for everybody around you okay all right like if if like i want this done this way that's what it's gonna be if you don't want to do that then you can get another job somewhere else but like or Naomi Campbell will throw a cell phone at you but like but like if you're trying to work for somebody that's in any of these industries you have to know that that might be part of your job you have to deal with a temperamental person yeah a lot of these people are dealing with like high pressure situations they can make or break something so like yeah they're not going to be as calm as somebody who's working a regular degular

nine to five but also it's like you got to compete with the people who come after you you got to compete with the people who are coming up behind you doing the thing that you did so well for so many years yeah and i think a lot of people a lot of celebrities a lot of those people can't you already know they can't handle getting older that's why people are like getting filler and botox and like you know trying to keep up with what the kids are doing but it's like if you like if these people were like more graceful about it then it wouldn't i don't know i don't know what i'm trying to say but like some people don't know how to age gracefully um because i guess they don't know what they would do after they got replaced i don't know it's scary getting

older marie it's scary like it like you know you don't feel in you don't feel current everybody wants to feel relevant and you know now that i'm seeing what is it gen z x y elemental p whatever i'm i feel like damn i'm out of the loop stuff that they're talking about i'm like none of this shit matters it's not good you know i like i remember when music videos were the thing you would go you're like oh i'm running home i want to see this music video it's gonna it's gonna have a storyline there's gonna be cameos there's like presentation there's no music videos anymore like that because nobody cares yeah so or the videos are very much the same it's a lot like i mean if cardi b is featured on it mute the video mute the video and it's basically the same video every time

like i mean did you we all i mean everybody saw normani's new i have not seen the video but i heard the song and you're and you're you don't you're not featuring it it's one of those songs where you got to watch the video to enjoy it i think the video was very good i right the visual yeah right the song yeah it's one of those the cardi the cardi b feature was unnecessary i think oh unnecessary why i think like i thought it brought the song down i think it was just like weird and it was just like cardi was like hey i have this feature do you want this i don't know it just felt weird and out of place hmm yeah but i like how she says mu mu glare i love cardi i have no problem with her i like her music but i just like some of her features

are a little weird well she's the hot she's the hot thing the hot new thing yeah if you can get a cardi feature or a meg meg the stallion feature or like there's like very specific people if you can get them on your song and it's like it's a hit because the kids gonna like it yeah people are going to listen to it because cardi's on it to see what she's talking about to see what she's wearing she's fun she's fun she's she doesn't take herself too seriously and that's what that's what we need people who don't take themselves too yeah this is like come on now we need to listen to the fucking old like older songs people are just like either talking about how amazing they are or how they're um lovesick or heartbroken that's that used to be all the songs i mean

isa ray just put out a tweet that was so funny it went viral um and everybody was talking about it because um she was talking about uh like old r&b music videos yes yeah um she said let's see let's see where it is it's like it's not the same anymore and then someone quote tweeted it and was like it's because you're not like women today aren't worth fighting for something right yeah and then she and then she was like your son she was making reference to that person who responded their header where they're drinking a bottle of water that said black women on it and she was like yeah she wrote the the tweet is listening to mint conditions breaking my heart and realizing that a lot of music niggas today aren't dramatic and desperate enough for me and another man wrote

because y'all ain't worth it yeah y'all ain't worth it what yeah anthony hamilton was the last one begging for his woman he was so distraught he couldn't take a bath he can't take a bath oh my god they said lyrics aren't dramatic music videos aren't dramatic jodeci was in the damn desert crying because shorty was gone for an hour an hour in the desert crying get out he said you could take my money my house my cars the song cry for you i mean it's true i mean that that was i mean imagine this was like kind of like an error a little bit like before us but yeah those guys really knew how to be like i i want you back come back please i'm begging i'm begging begging begging wait prince prince said it's been seven hours and 15 days since you took your love away

um yeah i just i think though that like when people used to make music they made music they were writing music one a lot of people artists now not writing their own music people write the songs they sing them so like when you write your own song I feel like it it means something I think that's why people connect with Adele so much yeah because you know she was heartbroken you know what I mean and everyone has been heartbroken or like somebody who did them dirty in some way um Sam or had a relationship end yeah Sam Smith these are people who write their own music from a place that like is real to them like we feel that and that's more i mean that's that's pop music though yeah yeah but r&b i mean dudes really ah i'm i'm gonna say something problematic but then like

all these guys were like begging and please come back and then we're like oh you're thirsty like get a grip get off me you yeah but are we are we saying that now or where no i don't think that i don't agree with that sydney i if a guy was like i miss you so much i love you i i'm gonna die without you i'd be like ew but in the back of my mind i'd be like look at how much you should be obsessed with me you know what i mean like we we want people to be obsessed with us not in like a you know Beyonce obsessed that's my man way but like that's the that to me is like oh that person actually cares about me if you say you love me and then I leave and you don't try to fight for me a little bit I'm like oh because you because you know I'm walking away but I'm a walk

slow so you can like catch up but like if you just let me go then that means this was this real did it mean something to you if you're not in shambles when i leave you but also it feels kind of good like even if okay so this is this is uh again i'm i'm a mess um when somebody doesn't give you the energy that you want you want them more when they're pressed you're like you know no i i mean in certain instances yes you want people to be persistent you want them to come find you and there's something there's something about the human mind that makes people who aren't like people who ignore us kind of more mysterious and hotter to us sometimes yes but i'm saying if we work together i'm talking about the the in the the songs that these guys

are singing for these women that they don't want to leave if we were together and we had a relationship and then it ends and you it we just both agree that it should be over even if it should be over you're not gonna fight a little bit you're not gonna shed a tear for me you you're not gonna call my mom like you're not gonna text my friend and be like hey I know you probably don't want to talk to me like you're not none of that you're not gonna show up at my job and wait across the street marie you know what and actually that's what you deserve and the fact that i have not gotten one dm like what can i do to make this better crazy that's why he's what's his name what's his face what's his i don't know i don't know his fucking name

well literally there's nothing that he can do to make it better but i'm except change everything but i'm saying like throw the whole body away and come back somebody else that's how you can yeah yeah yeah he need to be reincarnated as someone else to come back but i'm saying like there you we want that even if you're done with the person i maybe it's maybe it's partial you want to see them in pain maybe it's partial you want like it's like a pride thing but i need to see you distressed in a desert crying counting the days it's been seven hours and 15 days i need you to know what time it was when I left you. What moon was in the sky?

Was it a red moon? I don't know. But also, like, you know, it's kind of crazy. I mean, truly. I don't even know what I could do to make a song. I'm like, I'm tired. I don't have it in me. What's the last time you had your heart broken?

We could workshop the song right now. I wouldn't say heartbroken, but I was definitely like, oh, man, you know, like I was doing too much. And the person was like, yeah, I'm not ready for this. And I was like, por que? Yeah, but you were really, you were sad, sis. You were like, it took a couple, I want to say a couple days, but it might have been more than days. But like you were sad about it. i i i think that it was also uh uh you know pandemic happening so right sis but that's the

song this situation is what you would write the song about okay all right so girl it's a pandemic it's a pandemic girl girl it's girl we've been stuck in the house for months months on months on months i thought our facetimes meant something you threw it are you rapping no should i even be writing this um wait wait wait wait here here's the line here's the line you could use this okay uh it's a pandemic we're locked in the house but i'm locked out of your heart oh wow wow oh no write this down but yeah i just think that like instead of being cool which is what all music feels like now yes be cool yeah you gotta like you gotta be vulnerable you know i hate that word oh you marie hates vulnerability it's just not it like it makes you be like ew

ew yuck it really does yeah the word is yucky to me but that's the difference like those songs those guys are like pleading for their women to come back to them anthony hamilton yeah please come home charlene and it's like charlene charlene is gone baby yeah she's already on um she's got a layover in charleston and she's she's headed somewhere else she's she's unavailable right charlene is on the road babe uh marie when's the last time you got your heart broken what would your song be what would my song be yeah um i i don't know what my song would be sis um it would be probably something about wasting my time it'd be a song about it'd be a song about time yeah wow yeah i do you really think that people are wasting your time though like i it's

everything that you go through is it's meant to learn something you've learned a lot yeah like not to let people waste my time um but but yes i do think that sometimes people waste people's time because you enter into a relationship with somebody and if they're clear about what it is that they want from you and you know you don't want that or you don't want to give that then you are wasting that person's time because it's like you could just let me you could just be honest about what it is that you want or you could just leave me alone like what you on my line for i think that that yeah it there was some time wasting happening andrew for sure what do you think about heartbreak no about what somebody wasting your time somebody wasting my time uh

it's annoying because like there are people that are like they know that they're doing it and it's just like a fuckboy sort of thing where it's like they're just going around person to person they're just like they're not laying down anywhere but they do it so well and they know exactly the thing to make you think like oh this person actually gives a shit about me but then right and then when they go on a little hiatus it's like you're thinking about them the entire time like what was that even you know and then they'll hop back in yeah right so andrew have you ever been heartbroken had got your heart broken i mean when you were talking sydney about like uh like pandem like heartbreak and like that sort of being uh emphasized by that because like last

year like one of my close friends from college just completely dipped and i was just like i don't know what's going on with you like I'm not hearing from you and then you know I sent text messages every so often I was like hello like what's going on reached out to people I was like have you heard from this person and then

one day just blocked on everything and I'm like they blocked you on everything fuck and I was just like are you kidding like you've been over to my house we've gone on trips together gave me no reason as to like why like they just dip and i'm just like that sucks and i'm just like so you don't so we don't know about you don't know

what you did to be blocked on all these this sounds like that message that we got from that girl the other the other day the one that went on the date with the girl and the girl like oh yeah yeah why why what the fuck is wrong with people it's crazy yeah what the fuck is wrong like just say why like give somebody at least one just give me one good reason and so then like like two months ago two months ago like my friend group from college we were all in uh student government together and they were like all hanging out and doing something and one of my friends who it was invited to this this outing noticed that i wasn't part of it and was like hey can andrew come and then they got a uh private dm saying like hey this person doesn't like andrew anymore but won't

tell them and i'm like why not why not tell me have you oh well and you can't reach out to them because you're black i can't reach out to them i have no clue and it's like you don't have their number i well i have their number but nobody go through but nobody infiltrated to find out why right they don't like you i mean like i think that if if it was like if my friend amanda was like hey why does this person not like Andrew then they wouldn't tell because they would know that Amanda would come back to me and be like this is the reason no

no I need you I need you to use your words and tell me why like tell me why Amanda Amanda just should have been like doesn't like Andrew what happened yeah what happened um it's so dumb and if this person if your friend is asking if you can come then they already

know that they're gonna tell like she's gonna tell you what they say it is so stupid i don't know i think i i think that that is just like that's just a weird way to live your life on one hand i understand you you something no longer aligns with how you feel or the person that you are cut them out move on right life goes on but then on the other hand it's like we're adults if i did something to offend you or i did something to upset you tell me yeah so i can rectify it and know

that like oh my god I didn't even realize I was doing this I'm never gonna do it again yeah because I think like if it was like a romantic relationship I think it's like a little bit more okay to do that like ghost I don't think ghosting is usually

okay but I think like with a friendship I think it's like very ghosting a friend I don't understand like how does it get to the point where you're like i don't even want to i don't even want to talk to them i don't even want to talk to them like you didn't sexually assault your friend you didn't like did you steal money no nothing the last time i saw them like they just got their their green card and i was like let's throw like

let's i'm gonna help you plan a party that was the last time i saw them did you plan the party i'll plan the party was it a good party it was a good party yeah and i bought drinks for their friends too and i was like why did i even do that if i was just gonna get ghosted later on dumb yeah i don't fucking understand this is weird this is strange and i i wish we had some spies to find out because now i'm interested now i'm invested at this point i'm like i don't care like i think when i get sad like i go to that place and i'm like why did this person ghost yeah because it sucks um but like but that's their problem and they're missing out on you because you're a good friend it's so true sydney and you're fun thank you and you planned a party

and they and you're buying drinks for friends listen i'm drawing the line there i plan the party but i'm buying drinks for your friends did they get their green cards too are they my friends did you say something maybe you left a bad tip and they saw it like i don't know and truth i don't know about yeah okay wait let's let's let's um let's um let's not do that no more let's not ghost our friends let's not if you can ghost your friend then was that your friend in the first place yeah right if you have an issue with somebody just fucking be an adult hey you hurt me when you xyz i felt blah blah blah when you da da da da like what how use your words what you can't communicate this is strange it's getting weird yeah it's getting weird i i see y'all write

all these fucking captions these dissertations on facebook but then you can't tell somebody hey you hurt me when blah blah blah you made me uncomfortable da da da da i don't fuck with you because i don't fuck with you but but then but it brings me back to what i was saying about people fighting for me after a relationship ends if you're not fighting for the friendship or you're not trying to like mend something then were we friends like i thought we were friends i planned you a a green car party yep marie would you fight for me would i fight for you you're like would you fight for our friendship uh i think that i would i mean sis i shed a tear at a starbucks into an empanada for you once that was me fighting that one tear was me fighting for you

shed a tear into an empanada that's my title that's it that's it that's my title right there yes yes yes yes okay um andrew can you run through the titles for us or should we read this message that we got from this guy uh yeah i think the the email that i sent you yesterday i thought was very interesting yeah i want to read it read it okay we got a message from a listeners the title of the email is asexual and still a hoe hey my name is bj and i listened to the recent episode where sydney and i were talking about asexuals and i wanted to let y'all know i'm asexual i'm a black pansexual genderqueer asexual pansexual genderqueer asexual i had to google all of those and what does that mean um well pansexual is attracted to all types of people

everything used by this as well well it said i think pots and pans i think pots are cute too and then gender queer to me feels redundant but you know it it is what it is right and asexual so i'm a black but also black so black pansexual genderqueer asexual who has had sex and still has sex sporadically most people assume i'm a hoe because of my instagram but i typically only have sex three times a year usually only to please a partner right i'm driving an email right now so i can just upload my pics and my insta is cream filling please feel free to ask me questions or anything i'd like to share i'm down to share and then they sent us some photos you know a little mirror selfie with a booty in a crop top you see that this this album cover moment

can you see it and then these like sit first of all the turtleneck is just sleeves i love it please send me sure tell me what yeah tell me what it is so that yeah please send us the link to your turtleneck uh sleeve shawl thing so we can get one for sydney yes um yeah so and you thought the email was interesting why did you think it was interesting i well i guess i i was under the assumption that pansexual and asexual were sort of at odds with another and that they wouldn't really work together so i do have a question in that regard um but i guess they're listening to this episode so maybe they'll send a follow-up explaining well yeah because we were talking about asexual um sydney wanted an asexual expert on the podcast

i did i did ask for that yeah andrew i agree with you pansexual and asexual to me do seem like they're on opposite ends of yeah right because a pansexual is attracted to the spectrum of everything right and asexual in my mind i thought meant didn't really need anything from anybody we are we are confusion confusion confusion yeah i am confusion right now yeah i mean i think that but that's the thing like there's something for everybody and everybody should be allowed to live their lives how they want to live their lives that's i think that's what the this new generation what is it disease the x's that's what they got on us is like it's easier to be what you want to be now than it was before generation lmnop qrs

um any follow-up questions for our our friend bj um anything you guys feel like we need to we left out that we need to hit any tips on how to get a billionaire with anything that we talked about today let's let's wrap it up in a neat little bow I mean you never know you got to give people a chance like I was on my Instagram stories I was like yes I understand that you have a type blah blah blah blah but you got to just be a little bit more open I think if like you're saying this person is not my type but that is your type not a billionaire like i don't know like it just doesn't it's like come on like have fun yeah somebody hip don't work that my hips don't lie let's go like let's let's have a blast you never know that person doesn't need their hip to work

for y'all to be in rome for a week okay listen the next event i'm gonna find him and this and this is this is on me okay the next event i'm gonna i'm gonna find him and i'll just go over and introduce myself that's where i messed up i didn't introduce myself if i had done that and i shook his little you know spider vein hand it might have changed the game for me a little bit you know what i mean hi i'm marie nice to meet you and you are and they would have said his name and i would be like oh then i would have went back to the table googled him came right back hey so i see the chair is not available anymore can i sit on your lap you know like you know you live and you learn sis you live and you learn um i'm looking

at the thread of that isa ray posted on twitter it's actually really funny i'm gonna spend the rest of my day watching those they're they're really good videos people were not playing around yeah um as always thank you to the the hot listeners that send us messages and photos we love we love when y'all keep sending them photographic proof uh we love uh a pansexual genderqueer asexual audience like we love that everybody's listening and everybody gets something out of this pod um please send us lyrics for your heartbreak song oh my god do you hear the thunder Yeah, it's going to be raining all day, babe. It's about to be a

go fight fight. Yo, the weather in New York State sucks now. This summer has been absolute doo doo. The weather is not here for us and that's fine. That's fine. I'm out of here.

If you haven't gotten a ticket for my San Francisco shows at Cobb's Comedy Club, Yeah, go get them. It's Friday. You missed Thursday. So get them tonight.

Get them tonight. Get them for tomorrow. I have two shows. It's going to be a blast. And it's not going to be pouring in San Francisco. Hopefully not. Nope. All right.

Well, I'll have the info in my stories. Sydney has it on her page. And hopefully she'll see you there. I'll be there. Yeah, but you know what? I'll FaceTime you, Marie. How about I FaceTime you while I'm on stage? At the end of the show.

Okay, what time is the show? Because I need to see. I need to make sure I have on a shirt. Okay. I'll text you. I'll text you in advance. Okay. All right.

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