MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - "The Confession Expert" with Mary Beth Barone

Episode Date: December 18, 2020

If you don't listen to this *spicy* episode of The Unofficial Expert, you're being sent straight to confession! Mary Beth Barone makes her triumphant return to the pod as our Confession Expert. Mary Beth reveals what shows and movies she's been watching in quarantine, what actual confession is like, and comes clean about being a klepto! Plus, Marie tells us about her cuckoo dreams and Sydnee realizes she's been saying "yes" far too much lately.----Listen to The Unofficial Expert Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus:https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus----BUY UNOFFICIAL EXPERT MERCH:https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-unofficial-expert-podcast----FOLLOW THE UNOFFICIAL EXPERT:https://www.instagram.com/UnofficialExpertFOLLOW SYDNEE:https://www.instagram.com/JustSYDbwhttps://twitter.com/justsydnycFOLLOW MARIE:https://www.instagram.com/Reeezyhttps://twitter.com/MsReeezyFOLLOW ANDREW:https://www.instagram.com/mcgui_guySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, Sydney, I think I think we should start up top with, you know, we had a really heated. Wait, hold on. Somebody's knocking on my door. I'm sorry. Welcome to New York. Keep this in. It's an important way to make the audience feel like they're in the room. Sorry. So I'm back. What did I miss? Nothing. nothing nothing we anyway okay okay hi guys hello hello hello uh you know we're rounding we're rounding out this this year with a with a bang and i just wanted to say up top

i hated everything about this year but i'm so happy that we were still able to do this podcast wow i thought you were gonna say i hated everything about marie this year a lie which would have been a lie um yeah friend and it was interesting because we had a little period of time where we were like do we want to do the podcast today and it was like no and then every day it was like no but yeah you know it's almost over yeah question mark we do still have two more episodes after this one so andrew so annoying really two more episodes in the year after this yeah oh i think maybe one of them actually comes out on new year's day it's either i think it's christmas and new year's day they come out they're both on fridays

they're both on fridays yeah all right well merry christmas and happy holidays to y'all because merry kwanzaa babies that's your gift from the unofficial expert that's all we have that's all we have but um i i wanted to get my expertise out the way and it was going to be i say yes too much i say yes too much in a year that has canceled everything i still managed to fucking say yes what's wrong with me i have to stop it it's just it's getting out of hand and then i beat myself up while i'm doing it or after the fact is there something specific that you want to get off your chest friend because we don't like vague here we we don't like vague no i i just think that sometimes people

get friendship fucked up like yes we're friends but we still are a business and so when you ask me to do something and um it requires my time what is the money like i'm leaving my house for a pandemic what is the deal more than anything you should be paying black queer people even more than what you were paying them for the raggy ass 2019 we had okay i'm not being specific but i'm i'm just know that people feel the need to ask me and marie to do things and i'm like how did you feel that this makes sense because in my bank account it doesn't make sense and that's where the sense matters the most the sense yes if it don't make dollars then it don't make sense thank you sydney for those bars this morning

so your expertise is if we're gonna wrap it up a nice little bow what what would we what would we say it was playing myself oh okay myself because nobody can do anything to you that you don't allow so if I say yes to something I can't be mad I did it and now I just have to know that that can't happen again yeah but you know what Sydney the cool thing about saying yes to something is you can change your mind after you've said yes you know what my favorite word is no period that's my favorite sentence no period not an explanation because no is a complete sentence sometimes and I think that as women a lot of times we feel like we have to be liked and we have to be like you know proper or whatever the hell women think that they have to do but

that's it's 2020 and that's not what it is at all anymore so even after you say yes to something you can say no no and you can say no up until you've started doing the thing you could be in the middle of doing the thing that you agreed to do and be like actually no so that's something to take into the new year friend i think yeah we we did something yesterday and i after i see after i was seeing everything that was going down and the time had already it was done and they were trying to overextend it and i was like okay i've had enough we gotta go we gotta go we gotta go we gotta go you can't overextend right and we we gotta go i have to leave whatever amount you thought you were gonna give us i want you to times it by five how about that oh no no no i did the

math yesterday and i did i did the math on the phone with sydney yesterday and if you want me to do something with you my rate is 250 an hour that's where i'm starting hey i like that okay yeah so you can multiply that by however many hours you think you need me and then i'm still gonna ask you for more money so that's where i'm at um and that's what it is that's the rate for 2020 so in 2021 it's gonna go up yeah i think asking a black woman for a favor right now is just problematic and you should reconsider you should be doing us favors if you want to take me on a date you gotta venmo me 500 and then you gotta take me on the date and i'm not bringing my bag to the date so i'm you know i'm just i don't want to waste anybody's time because

i don't want you to waste mine okay i love that for us yes yes yes yes um i didn't i didn't really preparing expertise for this today because I thought I think I'm an expert this week of like having very vivid dreams um like stuff that I think is happening and then I wake up and my heart is beating and I'm like and I can't breathe and um so I uh I don't necessarily think that's an expertise per se but I woke up and I had business on my mind and I sent my landlord a very very very stern email today and that's why she just knocked on the door right before this episode started

she pulled up she said let me go get in my Chevrolet and come on over here she said let me jump in my my dollar van and show up to the house but I think that when it comes to tenant laws in New York State or New York

City it's most rent laws are on our side so sis do the work or I'm calling 311 on you so yes that's it i'm not going back and forth you don't have to come to my house just 3-1-1 hi i'd like to report this this and this um her name is this don't know what her last name is but this is what i write all my checks and um you know please send a unit or whatever 3-1-1 does so right now friend girl yeah i love you know we have to just keep this energy going because

Wow. Yeah. Anyway, I'm very excited about this episode. Sydney and I did spend the day together yesterday. But here we are on the podcast. First thing in the morning. Again, it's noon. Wow. Wow. Wow. Oh, hold on. In California. Yeah. 9am. Yeah, we are on West Coast time. All around the world, babe. We're all around the world. anyway Sydney do you want to introduce our guest for the episode today yes yes yes yes we brought her back it's been a long long time um she was our flirting expert she's on our live shows when we were able to do them gorgeous um she's a crowd favorite and she's coming back to uh talk about confessions yes give it up for marybeth barone yeah god it feels good to be back ladies it feels so good last time we recorded this you remember we were in i think marie's apartment we were really yes were the days i didn't even know you both that well at that point but i knew it was good vibes good energy and i opened my home to you let me into your home you welcomed me with

open arms and it was like magic we made magic that day yeah one arm was open but yes they're both open now they're open i've earned the second arm it's great to be back gals i think you know your expertise for the week are both very inspiring i think it's a lot about just like getting shit done getting what's yours not settling for less something we could all do more of keep going girl keep going um is there anything that you feel like you could do more or less of just you know just just whatever it is you know i could probably watch less movies but at this point it's kind of all i have to talk about my friends call like i'm watching movies to so i can continue to be

interesting at this point and i'm watching shows you know you know i watched industry because sydney um came over and said put this show on right now and i said all right i listened to what i listened to what sydney tells me did you like industry i have such an interesting um feeling about it it was definitely entertaining i think it was a world that we don't really have a lot of access to i think it was like well done do i think it was you know euphoria but about the banks yeah um a lot of ketamine i kind of i didn't realize so many people are out there doing ket but apparently that's what the kids are doing these days that's what all the kids are doing it's i am terrified of ketamine the word is scary to me yes it's a horse tranquilizer so but don't tell

sometimes it's cat tranquilizer geez no babe they might use it to tranquilize a cat but it's definitely for horses that's a big cat they use it to tranquilize lions maybe they use it to tranquilize jam not like that um well i mean the way that sydney rides hard for industry you would think it was 20 seasons 20 seasons long it's eight episodes i'm like how are you i know you done you going back to re-watch every night the fuck the show was not that good uh is is what i'm gonna say about it um but i also didn't finish it so maybe maybe that's just me two episodes in well they did an interesting thing because i feel like they released three episodes and then they released the rest so it was kind of like you're waiting each week for the

new one and then it's like oh i have now i can watch five at a time and so i watched it in like two days um which is concerning but shut up i enjoyed it i think i i i appreciate sydney's dedication to getting people to watch it because i think for me when people post about things that they actually care about that they're not being paid to post about it makes me feel a lot more compelled for some reason you know what i'm like i find that that's that's what i find trouble with with like sponsored content because it's so necessary and like we got to make that coin of course but i sometimes i'm like i wish i could just recommend things that i actually just like well you can honey but also please um add sponsorships we we love it here unofficial

expert marybeth barone we we we truly we we would die to you know have a a sponsorship with hbo max you know i just think hbl max should be paying you is what i'm saying oh absolutely absolutely i wouldn't be surprised if they are paying her sydney has been working this year there's like 150 clicks on that story right now mind you andrew we used to roast people who had tiny dashes in their stories i went on sydney's stories yesterday and i almost unfriended her i said wow who is this who is industry industry is tearing families apart when i tell you the dms are like sis put the phone down oh people are all people are saying that to you okay no no no the like fans fans who are like fans they're like loving it people who

are my friends are like sydney if you just had this much energy towards a show that you need to write oh okay well i mean sometimes that's what you need is a little bit of shade and a little bit of a nudge towards you know growing yourself um but marybeth i think it's okay to be watching stuff right now what what are the other alternatives to be outside in the cold like i guess reading i don't know people make it seem like the the devil on your shoulder is watching movies and the angels reading books and i just think i mean what's the difference really some of the most fucked up movies i've ever seen are based on books i watched a terror i'm trying to get through all the really bad rom-coms and i put that in quotes of the of the 90s so i watched chasing amy and this movie

called beautiful girls on they're both on hbo max basically i mean i know sydney's plugging industry specifically but almost every single day i bring up hbo max at least once okay like i don't know what is going on come on sis liminal message that ad sponsorship do it it's weird i can't stop talking about it but also hbo max hbo max has good stuff on it i know yeah but what's the difference between hbo max and hbo hbo is like i don't i don't understand the the like business decision to split them but i guess just like hbo max has more shit on it but you need to have hbo to have hbo max maybe i don't i really don't know but it's definitely they've got me hooked i'm on that i'm on that website every night netflix is like just you know a thing of the past really for

me right now it's dead netflix can't come to the phone right now they're they're um i think they're doing a lot of like children geared toward children programming and then murder mystery stuff which is not true crime is not my bread and butter when i'm alone i'm watching something so it's been yeah a lot of rom-coms and i i can't tell you i mean i think chasing amy is probably one of the worst movies i've ever seen who's in it i've never even heard of this movie ben affleck i think well yeah me neither there you go and maybe jane silent bob but i don't yeah it's what you would expect but amy's gay and so he's trying to like turn her oh and this is a movie that came out in the 90s so i'm sure it's problematic it is actually so it's it's like worse than you can

think uh in whatever you're imagining it's worse okay so i wouldn't recommend and beautiful girls as equally as troubling there's like a 13 year old neighbor and the guy kind of has a crush on her but he's like no no no no it's very weird it's very weird i yeah but i had to finish it it's called what chasing amy what chasing amy is the one about the lesbian um beautiful girls it is the one about the reunion and um this is terrible let me write the title she's like writing yeah um you know it it's good to see where we've come like how far we've come well now we have that um kristen stewart holiday rom-com that uh did you like it i did but i know a lot of people had people whose opinions i respect had problems with it i've heard from

both sides of the aisle on this film you're the first person that i've heard say yeah i thought it was entertaining and like rom-coms have a formula so always in a rom-com one of them is a dumbass yes and so if you're gonna make a movie about lesbians and it's a rom-com then one of the lesbians is gonna be a dumbass and unfortunately bad though she was really fucked up i thought they almost made her like unforgivably bad but i just feel like i could see execs like giving feedback on the script being like we need to make her worse we actually unfortunately we need to make her worse wait who's bad the the girl who's in the closet or kristen stewart the girl i thought it was one of kristen stewart's best performances and i've seen a weirdly large number of her movies

yeah um the girl in the closet was just but then i'm like you know people struggle with sexuality and they i don't know i mean i thought the family i didn't love the ending thought they could have tweaked it but a lot of like hard work went into the movie and a lot of like queer voices were being heard and i don't know for me it was a good movie but i know a lot of people felt differently okay that was a real diplomatic answer right there it was i see you i see you're on the fence mary beth i see that you have a friend who wrote on the movie or something i just love love so that's my official statement and i thought dan levy was great as well have either of you seen the movie no i heard it was bad but you're the first person that i've

heard say that they liked it so now i'm like it's structurally sound for rom-com they hit every point there were so many characters there was like never like a dull moment i thought for happiest fun yeah yeah interesting okay well i will uh i'll get into i'll watch marie why don't we watch it together i'll add it to the docket mariah's christmas special did not watch that either where's that available it was that's that's on apple tv oh we don't have that that's something that i don't have yeah i have that online if you get a new laptop you can you get it for free just a hot tip for the listeners and that's when when when do you get a laptop because i just got this laptop in uh february february is not just got i don't know if they you can

probably find out but i see apple tv on here yeah you probably have a free year oh yeah but that's where you can watch ted lasso i mean basically at this point i'm just going through a list of tv shows and movies i've watched in quarantine but ted lasso is definitely a highlight for me okay write that down too and that's a show about soccer so you know it must be good if i'm recommending it you know what somebody on there what do you want to fuck somebody on there because i know that's another reason for somebody to watch a show well no but i you know i think i knew it yeah i have a friend that wrote on the show so i said i'll give it a chance and then what do you know it's good um i don't like the name ted lasso for a show that sounds like a man that i wouldn't

like so also i never clicked on the apple tv thing on my laptop i just clicked it and now i know where apple tv is wow look at us thank you mary you are really um each one teach one right here and i that's that's all i aim to do every day when i wake up is i hope i can just you know help someone today there's so much stuff on here wow yeah it's a lot of original programming and i would say that marketing's not great because nobody knows it exists um like at all but morning show is particularly good if you are looking for a show okay that's about the me too movement yep oh okay murray we've got jennifer hanniston we've got reese witherspoon in a wig we've got steve carell i mean it's just non-stop action from start to finish and my parents liked it as well

okay well i'm gonna write that in pencil i'm not writing i watched the morning show on the on a flight and um you did yeah it was good but it are you are you judging because i was on a flight no i'm like that's so weird they would have apple tv shows on a flight the morning show yeah now i'm thinking about the contracts those contracts i'm just thinking about the paperwork sydney sydney what did you think of the morning show on the flight um I'm biased because the obsession with white actresses and actors is just anything they do is like oh it's so good we have to watch it it is amazing and it's like not that I'm mad about

them exposing the me too moment but it's also like y'all gotta get other like perspectives this is the only perspective that matters so and it's obviously pushed something happens to a white woman we all have to be on board and understand and tear that person down

I'm not watching The Undoing in solidarity with Sydney just so everyone knows I thought Sydney already watched The Undoing I did now it's net zero since I'm not watching it wait i want to i want to uh uh switch gears i really want to get into these confessions like usher that's because we caught you lying about the undoing i hear you sis yeah

thank you um anyway yes marybeth we are talking about confessions and keeping it real and being honest and keeping it true to you yes i would say that's an accurate assessment yeah for me i'm a big communication i'm really into communication i think it's very important for all types of relationships um but being raised catholic i definitely had a lot of guilt and shame instilled in me from a young age so they kind of teach you that if you confess something it it will make it less bad so while i think that's the religion is especially catholicism is extremely toxic it did teach me to be a better communicator so in some ways it's a good thing do wow sydney's on the move um do sydney is running

do you like i'm not catholic so i've never had to go to confessional or anything like that do you remember like a confession that you had to make that was like bad is it snowing yes no that's what i'm hearing is that it's snowing i am in a closet so there's no windows but you know since it's 20 it's 2020 come on out the closet i know well i know but i want it's for sound reasons because i just want to give the best quality sound for the listeners well that's why i moved because the music the calypso is going off next uh yeah anyway so is there like a memorable confession that you had to make i i remember my first confession because you have to do that before you get um the eucharist so it's all part of the seven sacraments

but then you have to go to confession you know quite frequently especially at catholic school because we you know they just gave us a lot of opportunities to talk about all the bad things that we've ever done i definitely confess to like because one of this one of the ten commandments is that you have to like respect your father and mother um so i definitely had like said to the priest that i've like not i've been mean to them before and using the lord's name in vain you have to confess to that as well i never killed anyone that i know of i never killed anyone so i didn't confess imagine if i was like wait i did imagine this is what you learned here that's what i confess is on the podcast and you you have to confess i guess i never yeah i never really did

it in high school so it was like confessing as a seven-year-old it's like what do you even have to say right exactly i remember that because i remember like it was like ccd did you have to do that or were you at a catholic school already i was at a catholic school but i did my communion at a separate church so i had to go to also go to class yeah no i went to ccd like every like tuesday after school and then like yeah i remember that day they were like okay everyone needs to go to confession and i remember like i was like i can't even like think about a single bad thing that i've done and so like i was like the last person i was like i don't know and i went and there was like i guess i get in an argument sometimes with my sister and they're like okay

cool get out of here or like say six tail marys well it's like when you're seven you barely have object permanence i'm like i don't remember every bad thing i've ever done are you crazy exactly it is that actually like psychotic thing to ask of like a seven-year-old because they say that seven is the age of reason they say that that's when you know right from wrong at seven what i was a thief at seven i was stealing oh wait oh my god that actually that reminds me of something Oh, you are klepto too? I stole a snow globe from this girl's cubby when I was in pre-K. And I came home and lied.

And I told my mom that I won it at like something in PE. And then it fell on the floor and shattered and broke. And I was like, that was God smiting me. And I shouldn't have done that. And then I'm pretty sure I confessed. I also once lied about chewing gum in school because I was chewing it. And I said I wasn't. Did you swallow it?

And we weren't allowed. I ended up spitting it out. but I felt pretty bad that she figured out that I was I mean obviously she knew I was like four and I had a big piece of gum in my mouth that I had stolen from my sister's bedroom so once again I was taught that that is bad because you will get you know something bad will come of it if you steal I hate watching little kids chew gum well you know what I mean does that happen but you know what I mean they're just like well not really anymore but like I'd be on I used to be on the train and i'd see them like like the sticking the tongue out and just like it will fall out

and they'll like put it back in it's nasty and they put it on their finger and yeah yes they're like it's not a toy the thing is is that there are a lot of um kids that have a lot of issues and so sometimes you can't find out how messed up they are until you know confession and that's why I think sometimes the priests that are fucked up take advantage of these little boys. Yeah. Because you see them as like, they can't do anything wrong.

You know, right. Right. Wow. Luckily I was, well, our priest actually, so I went to Greenwich Catholic school.

If anyone on, if anyone's listening who went to Greenwich Catholic school, shout out to GCS. But our priest was like, not, he was like so obsessed with like aesthetics. he drove a red convertible and he built a mansion on on the school's campus and had like golden retrievers and it was all very strange and then after I graduated it came out that he was gay

was embezzling church money to pay for his like partner to have an apartment in New York City and he had this like whole lavish lifestyle that was not in line with the teachings of the church oh you had a cool priest wow I would like is he in jail now or like what's the deal the parishioners were like it's okay actually yeah literally the same thing happened at my high school he was like on campus mansion he would like be at the shore constantly yeah it was just like disgusting the same thing came out and he's fine he's not in trouble or anything also i think he must just have a lot of shit on the people who confessed to him that has to be it they were like we can't have any of this any of our dirty laundry coming out so we'll just say

It's fine. And that is, you know, he should have just confessed. He was forced to. He didn't come clean about it. And then there was an article in the New York Times. Well, how did they find him? How did they catch him? I don't know.

It must have been something on the accounting side with like the diocese of Bridgeport or something. But they always like to cover it up. I have a yearbook right here. Yes. Because I'm in the closet. Let's see, Mary. 2003 vibes. 2003.

Show us your picture in the yearbook. i'll find it i don't even know what grade i was in in 2003 if there is a quote you know go ahead and well i remember the quote i used um okay tell us i think it was lucille ball quote and it was like i'd rather regret the things i have done than the things i haven't it's like okay it's a bit deep for eighth grade but yeah go off go off this is my grade i don't know if i was in the class you know what i think i missed the class picture this year work wow because i was because i was going to florida to visit my best friend oh you had a you had a friend across state lines yeah she moved it was like so tragic yeah well that's that's how you know you're doing well

oh wait no no this is my year okay show us hurry i know i'm sorry i'm sorry this is so annoying for the listeners i'll post a picture of it when no you know what i'm not even in it the listeners are like well show us they will yeah they will ask for it these listeners are aggressive and they're over there they're keyed in they're engaged well just imagine me but like a little a little bit smaller i look the exact same your hair was the same length you didn't have bangs i had long hair yeah back then and i would get side sweat bangs because i was obsessed with elizabeth hurley and austin powers and i thought she was just the picture of beauty um and i thought if i get side sweat bangs i'll probably look like her

and then i did for years cindy has a little side side situation she's doing a side part and i i'm here for it i have to say um but this is uh aaliyah thank you elizabeth hurley who uh this is we don't know her this is reminiscent of uh baby girl okay it needs more uh it needs to cover your eye more yeah there we go nailed it um okay so mary as a as an adult i feel like you've had a lot going on especially when you came on for flirting i feel like you you confessed a lot because you've hooked up with an egot emmy grammy oscar and a teen choice award i mean yes but not all the same person it was all different people which we love oh wait how come i thought it was one person because you weren't paying attention

when we recorded that episode two years ago that's a fucking lie i want you to be sorry it was so long ago i don't blame you um yeah i've had a lot to confess for over the years i mean i think i confess a lot of stuff in stand-up like that's what's been really hard for me not being able to perform i think because usually when i do something that i think is bad my reflex is to tell a bunch of people because then it kind of diffuses it it turns from this big thing that only i know into this like smaller thing that a bunch of people know so that's my strategy to feel less guilty about things which doesn't always work but i think it's been hard without doing stand-up because i don't really have anywhere to like you know air air it out like air my dirty laundry

and that's not all my stand-up was but yeah i just kind of facetime with sydney and then start crying that's what i've been doing i can attest that's true that is and it works guys you just need one kind of person you can dump things on and then you'll feel better but i i definitely yeah i got an i was just always a confessor i remember i watched i watched a rated r movie on vh1 and i wrote my parents a letter and i left it outside their room and i was like i am so sorry i did this Mary Beth because I was young I was like maybe 12 and I just thought okay so hell now so you have an older sister I have five siblings so I have two older sisters and three older brothers so are you you're the baby I'm the baby no wonder you're spoiled yes no it's no one's surprise when

I say I'm the youngest but I definitely always felt like just get just riddled with guilt all the time i don't know did you guys not feel that as kids no no i never felt good i burned down my fucking house i kept it moving like i didn't start talking about it until now as adult like there was just years of years of me like yeah i didn't even remember that i did it i'm obsessed with that what i'm obsessed with that no no it's bad because it's like i like i've i've i've like kissed a cousin i've kind of like humped a god brother i'm like i was you know i've done like wild thing the god brother that you went to prom with yes my god you humped him but he wouldn't take a picture with you at prom

yes when you say choked on my water so i'm sorry um when do you kiss a cousin um when i was like 11 12 is that how old you were friend interesting no maybe maybe younger than that i was definitely younger but no like first of all i think people shouldn't be so hard on kids hooking up with each other well not hooking up but you know like no sydney no the episode with all right i think people should not be so hard on kids period right if you don't have your if you don't let your kid hang out with other kids they're gonna like get wild with their cousins i'm just saying this just if that's all that's available sydney i had very strict parents growing up i wasn't allowed to hang out with other kids i've never kissed any of my cousins what are your

I've never, I've never humped. Wait, we shouldn't shame, we shouldn't shame. Sydney's confessing right now. And that is one thing, one reason people now confess to me. They always come to me about things. They tell me things sometimes I wish I didn't know. But it's because I'm not going to judge them. Oh, I'm only judging them.

Oh, hey, this is why people don't call me. But you know why I'm judging Sydney? It's because I know the whole story about the cousin kissing thing. And she's leaving out a lot of stuff. So that's why I'm going, oh, okay. this story sounded like the remix of what I heard but okay um it is what it is so Sydney what was the point that you were trying to make about kissing family members what why did we why did you bring that up it's not that bad that's not that bad I hate it I I think that we should judge

kids kids are not um immune from judgment but I also think that you know when we're kids think about it like we were alive for seven years or eight years or however many years total and it's like you don't know anything when you're 10 you don't even know anything when you're 24 so I agree you know you start knowing things when you're 29 how old I am that's when you start knowing things so i think that we have to keep that in mind when you you think about who knows and who's doing stupid things or smart things you know i just can't imagine being a kid and not feeling guilty about literally everything um i mean i felt guilty about stuff but i also had like an older brother and i mean i would feel bad sometimes about the stuff that i stole but i

would feel bad that what are we talking about stealing wise like are we talking like a bracelet it from like a department store i used to steal cars i used to steal everything and i'm not no not grand theft you know but you know uh definitely like larceny like petite is there is there is that what a form of larceny petite larceny petty whatever the small cars small stuff no but when i was little i used to steal um from the school store i would steal from i would steal snacks out of people's backpacks because my parents always gave us really healthy snacks so i'd be like well I want chips today, and I want Dunkaroos and Gushers. So I would steal people's food, and then I would lie about it.

And then I started stealing from, you know, stores. And then I went to college and started stealing stuff when I was in college. Wow. Yeah, it was a really— Have you ever stolen from a friend, Marie? Stolen from a friend? No. Yeah.

If I'm friends with you, I'm not stealing from you. But if you leave something at my house and we're friends and we're the same size, it belongs to me now. i agree with that yeah i have a few items of clothing that fall into that that's not theft that's just um what is it something nine-tenths of the law i don't know i'm absorbing what you left here it belongs to me now exactly so that exactly possession is nine-tenths of the law so then you become the owner thank you because nine-tenths that's 90 percent nine-tenths i don't like this um this math it doesn't check out well have you marie when did you stop stealing

uh when i was in college i stopped stealing last year yeah i was like marie what you talking about no what are you talking about sydney i do not steal anymore what's the last time you saw me to you you can say this is a safe space exactly because i've never seen you steal because you're good at it exactly because i'm oceans eight about it well not oceans eight oceans 12 oceans 12 that was a big one exactly i already took it by the time you see it's missing i've already taken it um and then i you know my memory is not good so i'll take it and then forget where i took it from and be like i don't remember where i got this i think it was a gift classic do you think do you think um if you find something and you don't turn it in is that

a form of stealing depends where i mean if you find it on the sidewalk it's a bit tough right but maybe i guess presumably the person could come back for it but i think if you find something at school and you don't like one time i lost i used to work in an office and i had a picture of me as a kid at my birthday party where barney came so it was obviously very near and dear to my heart i scanned the picture then it fell out of my notebook and then someone found it and just never gave it to me which i find so weird what they do it away mary that's how that was they do it away just clearly it's like a memory i mean luckily i have this scan of it but it always was weird to me that no one like turned it in right and it's very it's very obviously you in the photo yeah oh damn maybe

was somebody at the office that didn't like you a hater maybe it was a small small office so i'll never forget that but i think if you don't turn something in and it's like an office situation then that is bad yeah yes maybe sometimes it depends on the stealing technically it's not stealing i don't think so um okay so you say people people confess to you they trust you they're like they open up to you yeah do you like listening to people's problems or do you like holding people's secrets or do you share them with other people i don't like so here's the thing and i've learned this about certain people too if you tell me not to tell anyone i won't like no no wait hold on what let's be honest what if somebody tells you don't tell anybody you're not going

to tell your best friend well i saw a tweet once that i thought was really smart when i say i'm not going to tell anyone i mean i'm not going to tell anyone you know that was the tweet exactly and i think so if basically there's a difference like if sydney if you told me something you said not to tell anyone and then i ran into like george severus and i told him that is different than me telling a friend i went to high school with because it's a good story and not saying your name you know what i mean so it's just it really is circumstantial but if someone comes there are things that I've never told anyone if someone comes to me in confidence they say this you you know this is a secret of mine and you can't tell anyone I will respect the code and I won't say

anything yeah Marie what you do that what's the question do you when someone tells you don't tell anyone I don't have anybody to tell Sydney I feel like you're trying to set me up for something but I don't have anybody to tell anything if you tell me not to tell nobody I'm whispering it to my plants honestly the only person i'm telling anything to is my mom and she don't care about none of y'all right she's like who what that's a good outlet also sometimes these stories get so convoluted there's so many characters it's like even if i wanted to like explain the backstory here and tell someone it's just too much effort so a lot of times yeah i mean there's definitely people that i've said things to that i'm like oh that's a person that i need to tell them not to

tell anyone because they just will and it's not malicious but they'll just regurgitate what you say and because it's something to talk about and then i've been burned before with that and i've definitely i've definitely told people things i sometimes i like to get involved when i know somebody likes someone else and that has gotten me in trouble before yeah i've done that too because i feel like i can help and people don't trust me to be subtle and then i'll just kind of take matters into my own hands but i don't really do that anymore because i don't want to get in trouble but also sometimes people tell you not to tell anybody and then they tell you their secret and you're like girl i don't even want to know this about that this tea is cold this tea is

it's a tiny cup and it's cold i don't nobody cares it's a shot of tea right it's a thimble it's a thimble of lipton okay it's not even like a good tea so that um i mean for me i will i will say on the record i talk to a lot of people so you do sydney has more friends than than anybody in the world uh people people tell me business and then because my memory is so short i only remember bits and pieces of stuff so if i do like per se mention something to marie maria's always upset with me because she's like well sis you none of this makes sense where's the rest of the information that matters yes sydney will give you pieces of the tea and you're like she will who where were they wait who are we talking why i always have follow-up questions i never remember

names i don't know like what agency it was at i'm bad but also what happened to the girl and she's like i don't know haven't heard from her yes but also sydney will start a story in the middle and then go to the end and you're like wait what happened you gotta tell me the full thing and she's like oh okay well did you say always always you do it here you tell stories on the podcast and it's like wait you just said the ending but what happened before that and you're like yeah you're like oh so it's very christopher nolan-esque yeah it's m night it's m night shamalan we have to it's non-linear storytelling say me and that could make you rich one day what you say what non-linear storytelling that can make you rich one day

people love that shit they go to see it drag me in my secret spilling fuck no i'm just grateful to know because sometimes sydney will text me i have t i i facetime her immediately and it's never disappointed not once you've never been like oh okay it's never been something you already knew no i have i've been like you knew say right now yeah say right now this is a safe space that was a test um i don't remember but sometimes you know sometimes when someone tells you a secret and then they say don't tell anyone and then the other person involved also tells you so you have to pretend that you don't know fake shot good at that oh i'm good at being like what oh my god tell me more okay wait have you no way have you ever forgotten who told you

something and then you tell them their thing back to them yes that has never thank god i don't think that has ever happened i do forget though especially lately who i forget who i've had conversations with but i have never repeated someone's secret back to them i think that would be detrimental to my reputation as a steel vault of information marie does it all the time that i don't know about all the time but sometimes i'll repeat stuff to people like i mean i'll do it with sydney but i'll be like i don't know who told me this but somebody was saying that they're brazilian but live you know what i mean and sydney's like i told you that story and i'm like oh are you sure we weren't there together no you know sydney so mary how do you feel about people

who um gossip well you know there's not much to do these days and i think gossip is one thing we will always have no matter what no matter how long we're locked indoors there's always gonna be people doing things that we want to talk about i think i would rather be talked about than talking about other people that's that's a goal it's a career goal you know you want people to be like what's she up to but i do i do gossip and i talk shit and i don't always feel great about it but it is a cathartic kind of release why why why do we feel so good about talking shit and gossiping i don't know it's just nice to just be like i'm in a situation with someone i trust and i'm gonna just go all the way off and then you do and then you hang up what i hate is when

you want to talk shit and the person's like i don't know i kind of like them oh that shit is no it's then i say click i shut the computer because that's not fun for anyone don't don't take the high road yeah especially if i'm talking to you and i know you don't actually truly like that person that we're talking about you're just trying to act like you're like above the conversation and it's like marie marie's favorite line when she talks to me she's like yeah i know that's your girl but um that's your friend so i do say that that's really good that's a good way of just um addressing that you kind of drag them and be like but that's your friend so well it's it's a whole other layer too with comedy because there's you can be friends with

people you don't think are funny yes and then I that's a whole other thing sorry but I can't really be friends with people that I don't think are funny not really I wrote a Facebook post about that years ago and there were so many comedians in my in my messages like so like one who are you talking about and two like do you think I'm not funny and it's like what what well what did the post say the post said listen i have so many friends outside of comedy who aren't funny those are those are regular people if you're in comedy and you're supposed to be funny why the fuck would i hang out with you if i don't think you have anything to offer comedically that's and then people were writing in the messages but what if that person is a good person i was like

then they should just stop doing comedy and just be a good person right a good person doesn't make a good comedian actually sometimes the worst person you are the better comedian you are so unfortunately yeah you know as we've seen time and time again i think i'm gonna look for that uh post repost it please do and send me a screenshot because i that was probably before maybe before we knew each other or we were facebook friends but i would love to read it yeah it's a good take you're not wrong yes well it well for me it's just like one I don't want to oh I wrote in a post I was like I don't want to have a show and you're my friend and I cannot put you on my show yeah that hurts because then I gotta tell you about the lineup and be like yeah so uh it's so

true it's gonna be here but you again another week not on the show yeah but that was the cool thing about the knitting factory is it was three hosts and anytime somebody like asked a couple times and and we didn't think that they were the right fit for the show i would say well tell them marie said they don't want them on the show like i i'll take the blame for that say marie said no yeah and then if you want if you see if you got the gall to come approach me and talk about it i'm gonna say i've never seen you do well so or i don't think you're funny or you know but now we don't have that anymore so it's like who is funny you know what i mean well what's weird about everything happening with no shows is like i figured there'd be less comedians

as a result but i feel like they're just more and more yeah and they're just tweeting is that a confession uh mary you're low-key drag they're like no everyone's everyone's gotta make money i just i'm i'm when i hear it mary i'm upset with myself that I'm not compelled to tweet more because I do feel like people get jobs from it it's just not my medium I want to do stand-up and that's how I feel you're good on Twitter though your tweets are funny I just don't tweet I hate the website I well the way I've really like come I've had to come to terms with this in my in my brain when a tweet does bad I feel bad when a tweet does well I feel nothing so it's truly like what am I gaining from it viral tweets

viral tweets are so annoying you're literally drowning in mentions all day for two days and then things calm down and you're like what am i left with nothing okay nothing so you sometimes you have to be honest with yourself and say is what am i what is this bringing me what joy nothing okay i should stop doing it so i'll go off of it for a bit here and there i just really want to just be successful enough where i can just never ever tweet again okay i mean our good friend Mateo was very popular on Twitter and he deleted his account he does see that is wild to me he was like yeah I don't this is it's bringing me stress I don't think I could delete it that's my that's my issue I can't I deleted my Facebook and that felt amazing I didn't deactivated it I straight

up deleted it yep but I just can't I feel like Twitter has like things that I want to keep um yeah I mean I guess every once in a while I'll delete the app from my phone yeah and um you know because i feel like i waste time on it but i don't tweet that often and when i do it's sometimes it's literally something that my high brain is curious about that i could google but i don't want to um and then other times it's me just reacting to something that i just read so you know twitter is useless for me but people are getting jobs from it and blah blah blah blah and and it's like but i don't want to be a writer so there's also that you know there's that i mean this is i'll say this and this will be the end of my social media rant i think that comedy really

is suggest suggested subjective subjective and there's a lot of times where you'll see people blow up or things blow up and you're like i don't get it i i don't understand it Sure. And I feel compelled to hate on this person. And it's like, no, I need to focus on myself. Why am I why do I want to drag this person down? Yeah, because it's right. It's the right thing to do. And until you feel nothing anymore, and then you move forward. Sometimes, most of the time, I think that I don't think you should publicly drag people. I think that's tacky. I think you go in your your group chats and you go off and you get it off and then you move on. I think if you're a comedian and you're and you're publicly saying someone is not funny, who's another comedian?

I don't I think it's it's weird. It's like that. We're all in the same field. Well, that's what that's what our friend groups are for. That's what the group chat is for. It's a safe space to be like, did you see such and such on such on Netflix? did you really them you know what i mean and and it feels good to talk to people who feel how you feel because sometimes i feel like like like an alien or something no because i'm taking crazy pills right because i'm like this this is what the people are buying this is what the people are reposting or whatever whatever whatever and it is what it is but um it feels good to talk to somebody about another person and you're both on the same page in a lot of ways you're just

confessing having bad thoughts when you do that and in that way you're releasing them and that's good full circle love how you the full circle on that bitch damn we love circles i have i have said this i do i think millennials are too empowered we can justify anything so am i talking shit we can put a spin on that i mean you can just rebrand anything and make it positive rebranding yes Okay, but how do you feel about, this happens with feminism, women publicly dragging other women on open forums? i don't i i mean it's so circumstantial obviously if you're dragging like a white supremacist that's one thing but i think if you're just i think it's very strange and i do see a lot of people who claim to be feminists openly shitting on other women i mean i think publicly talking shit is so

weird to me because especially if you're a comedian like if you're talking shit about a celebrity for example like what if you get cast in a movie with them one day it's so awkward that you have tweets like shitting on their entire existence or you have a podcast where you talk shit about everybody and you know what is it going to be like when you are like at a table read with them and you know you said all this really bad stuff i think i just find it very strange so i just i'm from toxic stan culture so i will just talk about people that i like that's what i try to do toxic stan culture hmm toxic right people who like follow celebrities or famous people that they don't actually like and they like hate watch or they hate people do that i don't that's not

toxic it's toxic stand culture for me is like i'm obsessed with very us like a tier of celebrity like there is a group of celebrities i am fully obsessed with and i will defend them like i'm an apologist um and i just want to like help them not hurt them there are people who hate follow celebrities i find that to be the most bizarre use of energy because what is the point i mean for years i didn't follow anybody famous like any celebrities because i was like this is just gonna make me feel bad about what i have or what i don't have um so i just wouldn't follow them not to say i wouldn't end up on their pages because you know the explore page is the devil oh my god yeah but um yeah i don't like i don't log on to social media every time i pick my phone

up i'm not supposed to feel bad okay otherwise i'm gonna stop i mean i'm not gonna stop picking on my phone but um otherwise like why am i logging into this app to feel worse about what well that's what twitter does to me sometimes so that's why i just try to limit limit the exposure yeah that's a valid thing um oh you know this is this is another weird thing that i want to confess sometimes i will be friends with people that i'm like you're a little peculiar i don't really get you just to just to get just to see the the hype the buzz and then real i realized oh this person is cool though they're just like not what i traditionally think is funny but i get why people rock with them okay i don't think that is my confession

that's you i mean i think that sounds very positive yeah no no because i i will say like you too everybody on this call or this this podcast i think are funny for real like i know that i can read something on your instagram it's going to be funny i'm gonna talk to you on the phone you're gonna make me laugh but there's some people that it's like i do not see any of it nothing but you're probably just a cool person in general and i'm i'm comedy comedy subjective as you said from right from your own words and it's it's okay to appreciate it's okay to appreciate what someone does but not find them funny i'm contradicting myself yes i know andrew come drag me yeah what i've always observed about

you sydney is that you i mean like you referred earlier to like sort of like casting like a very broad net and you have a lot of friends almost like too much friends and your your ratio on instagram does like keep me up at night whereas like marie's does relax me um marie is following a lot less people than you are i think that you're you're following too many people you're trusting wow i'm looking this up right now andrew you have said this before it's your ratio is out of control i think 3200 people but what should i do make some cuts that's more than some some countries friend what what what how do i do that what what should you go to the you go to the list the people you follow and you unfollow them yes so hard it's not hard i think like marie's like

following how many are you following marie like only like a couple hundred hundred something yeah you gotta get it down there wait a minute wait one second now so andrew you're saying i'm keeping you up at night and marie is calming you yeah i'm i'm asmr that is andrew's confession that is my confession yeah sydney you're not going to drag me for that sydney you know what you could do friend you go to your followers okay and then you can see the ones that you least interact with and just unfollow those people if you never see them all because you're not even seeing 3200 people on your feed that that's not what the algorithm is not possible no your feed stresses me out it must be insane my feed stresses you out but you don't read my feed

i'm just looking at the number yeah the simply the concept yes but andrew if you've never seen sydney on instagram she swipes and likes every single thing that she sees like that's how sydney instagrams she's not like you know like i'll swipe i'll be like what's that oh that's weird and then i won't double tap right when i get a like from marie it means a lot more than a like from sydney i'm just gonna say sydney what they're saying is you've diluted your your brand on instagram by following too many people and being too um frivolous with likes which i don't think it's a bad thing you're creating positivity in the community sure i think you can take this confession that andrew is opening up on the podcast and you can either say i don't care i

like my life and i'm going to continue living it as i happen or you can say okay i'm gonna take this feedback and put it into action oh my god you're my lawyer literally sustained um so my likes don't matter that's that i just want to make sure i i'm not saying that your likes don't matter i'm just saying that marie's me in a little bit more because there i know that there are it's it's thoughtful when when it's a like i mean it when i like something but sydney like there's more i know it's more thought it's more i just think i just think he's not liking that i mean i mean marybeth also knows as well like you're going through like we all know you're going through your feed and you're just you're you're tapping away i'm telling you i've

seen it firsthand i'm just like oh is that how i'm supposed to be using instagram i'm supposed to like everything that i see even the ads it's just it's wild even the ads that's funny that's really funny just anyway sydney i think go see the ones that you least interact with the ones that you haven't seen probably since you followed them and go ahead and let some of them go i love i love this confession for y'all this all right cool we've had this conversation with her on the pod before she's she's just gonna follow a thousand more with this information it's fine you know it's okay it's fine it's fine marybeth how many people are you following i'm following under i try to keep it i've always been under a thousand which

is becoming harder and harder to keep because you just meet people and it's like i feel bad if i don't follow back a lot of the time right now i'm following 984 right i think under a thousand it feels good to me as well it's just getting really hard to maintain and i feel like once you break a thousand it's like okay well i guess i'll keep it under two thousand but then it's like i'm gonna be following so many people i hardly know how many people does beyonce follow she follows none zero that's weird to me though not not because it's her but like anybody who has an instagram and is following nobody it's like well what does your feed look like the feed is simply just her post yeah i think it's weird like what about your family right yeah well i mean like um tina knolls

has gone on instagram live and has talked about beyonce's this is just a conspiracy theory that i am obsessed with laughing tina knolls has gone on instagram live and she's talked about um like the interviewer was like uh do your daughters cook um and then she said beyonce posts a lot of what she cooks on her instagram you go through beyonce's instagram there's nothing that she's prepared beyonce don't cook right so she has a private instagram which is what we're getting at you know the beyonce instagram the app beyonce is not her yeah that makes sense that's her work a lot of celebrities do that i mean well it's the whole finsta of it all but i can't i can't manage two accounts i have drag his ass in my own and that keeps me plenty busy so did people go

through tina noel's followers to find the beyonce real account people people including me yeah i've attempted finding it well obviously it's obviously it's private yeah i mean like there's you can't really tell but there are like a few contenders um that could potentially be beyonce's account luckily probably got they probably got inundated with requests yes luckily tina noel's only follows 223 people so we could do we could go through that in an afternoon exactly we could do we could do some real quick process of elimination probably but i do i think that that's cool that she has a page where her actual personality is on it you know for the fam or whatever so you know that's cute for her but i have my instagram and the

unofficial expert instagram and you see what i do with both of those it's right it's hard so you know it's very hard i think i i'm it's getting hard for me to think of things to post because i don't do anything but your posts are always good you always have like good photos good captions like once a month because i get i get crippled with anxiety about it it's stressful you have followers that follow you and they're obsessed and it doesn't matter you don't have to post all the time marie doesn't have to post all the time you guys are great i i just like maintenance and upkeeping and that's why i have a hundred notches so yeah the hundred notches for your account it's your account and you should use it however you want the hundred notches are for maintenance

and upkeep i'm sorry what make it make sense babe it's one notch per follower what are you oh my god essentially at this point um well you guys have really just confessed a lot about how you feel towards me but i think we should end with a a real confession um to just kick us off or take us off properly um okay I guess I will start I can't I will confess that I'm very anxious and nervous about my show that I'm doing from my bathtub on December 19th and that's not even me trying to plug it in a cute way I'm genuinely very nervous because I used to do the show on Instagram live weekly I haven't done it in months and it's on a new platform and I'm just like are people gonna

understand um so I'm that's what my confession is that I as you've seen me put on a brave face but i am nervous so please buy tickets come it's gonna be fun um tell everybody the day after the day after this episode comes out yes benito skinner will be on it um jovin will be on it iowa debory and of course alistair green from the uk will be calling in um so it'll be a lot of fun and i just hope people um will watch it i mean the art for it the visuals stunning big thank you yeah i saw it and i i didn't even have to think about tapping it i said absolutely this is she said and i commented i said this is i don't remember what i said but i really really liked a comment from marie is huge honestly

that takes effort it's not even that it takes effort i just like when i feel compelled to actually write something under somebody's post it's like it's i don't know it's because i it brought me some type of joy that's or it's so shocking that i'm like why would you put this up you know what i mean but yes i know i know what you mean but i i really like the post and i hope that the show goes well it's on well what's the date again december 19th december 19th the day after saturday this episode drops all right next confession confession andrew you go for it i don't know if i have a confession yes you do i i i confess that i i'm sorry for leading this charge against you um i think that uh

i think it was an important conversation to be had going into a new year um but yeah i i do feel I feel bad I saw I saw like your face sort of like go slack during that um that you're really affected by us calling you out so I'm sorry no I mean maybe the problem is Sydney do you feel bad when you unfollow people I don't think she does have you ever done it have you ever pressed an unfollow button yeah wow is that your it feels good have you ever muted somebody because that's a that's a different kind of high no girl you've never muted somebody no oh wow sis you ain't living right no we're falling back into it now it's okay sydney i mean it's fine but i'm just saying that you you missing out sis i think maybe you would squirt more if you unfollowed more people

or if you ruin your life sydney marie confess my confession okay um does it have to be i guess it'll be social media related since that's what we're talking about now um my confession is i never like i don't have a script for the videos that i upload i kind of just talk um but i shoot numerous versions of the video until i think it's perfect and then i post it if i don't think that the video is hilarious i'm not posting it um and when i first post the video i'll watch it over and over and over again until i make myself sick and i can never watch the video ever again like i'll hit a point where like i'll watch it i don't know 50 times however many times and be like i am a genius and then a switch will go off and then i can't like i can't watch it anymore so

that's my confession about social media it's hard and it's weird but and it does give me anxiety but i'm still gonna post stuff if i like it you know yeah yeah dropping a bomb right here uh i confess that sometimes i am jealous of marie because like oh wow people love you so much and you're so cool and so funny and i feel like i'm the nerd next to you and city you sound like a crazy person right no i don't i don't i'm like marie is so cool that's why we became friends because you were cool and i was like i'm obsessed with how cool she is and pretty i thought we became friends because you thought i was pretty but okay cool if works too um that's really interesting friend but not jealous in a not jealous in a way that like i don't want any good to happen to this

bitch fuck her i'm gonna single white female you like not just i'm it's like jealous in a sisterly way like oh man she's just like every time you post something or sometimes i see you in real life and i'm like wow i can't believe we're friends she's so like perfect oh wow well Sydney if it makes you feel any better sometimes I'm jealous of you too in a very sisterly way yeah I'm like look at this sexy bitch with the big booty who don't work out look look how likable she is so if that makes you feel any better and I hope it does because I see your face you're I can see all of your teeth uh I feel like that too so and you have more followers than me so don't worry about people liking me more than you there's more of them in your if you don't you should see

my dms they're like i just wanted to say that um i enjoy marie's videos so much they're in your dm saying that's psychopathic people love you people are weirdos don't have friends that i used to work with that are like wow marie is really funny she's she's taking off on social media that's hilarious. I'm like, yeah, I know. I wrote some of her jokes. Love that. Absolutely. Yes, yes, yes. That was a very nice exercise. Mary, can you tell people where to find you on social media? And again, where you can where they can find this show that you're going to be on? Yes, you can find me on social media at Mary Beth Barone on Twitter and Instagram. And then cadenza.tv is where you can get tickets to the show but also you could just go to my instagram

and then it's in the bio obviously and my twitter as well i love this and marybeth is an ally she is one of the um many but few white women that i'm like she does do the work and um please make sure you go on her comments and support her so mary i know we trash the beige people but um mary is one of us well no but she is a part of the fam well if you're beige and you're listening to this then she's one of y'all because well no because the beige listeners that listen you know they're allies to us you know they'll slide in my dms and be like i'm a beige listener and i love you guys and i i love when y'all do that um so nice yes so marybeth before we go just real light um if you could get anything in the world for christmas what would that be oh gosh well trump already

got covid so that was kind of like an early christmas present but maybe a plane a plane like a like a big ass plane yeah just like a boeing 747 oh my god i just want a big plane so you can go to seven different countries like rihanna did for seven weeks yep yep i just want to be able to travel and be not worried you know about being safe i hope somebody gets you that for christmas thank you me too find out in a couple weeks um i'm so glad that you came back this was so cute thank you for having me it's always a pleasure gals and i i hope gals is obviously gender neutral because gender is a construct but um thank you so much and i hope everyone has a very lovely holiday season

um i just one more time i really do love you guys so much and this year i've cried more than any other year but talking to you guys on the phone and facetiming and annoying you guys seven times a day has really been my therapy and i'm very lucky to have such wonderful people in my life Sydney happy Kwanzaa day anyway thank you so much guys bye forever dog this has been a forever dog production the unofficial expert is executive produced by Brett Boehm Joe Cilio and Alex Ramsey senior producer Tracy Soren produced by Andrew McGuire cover art by Sandy Honig. To listen to this podcast ad-free, sign up for Forever Dog Plus at foreverdogpodcasts.com slash plus. Check out video clips of our podcasts on

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