MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - "The Cool Mom Expert" with Sandi Marx
Episode Date: October 5, 2018Pour yourself a Negroni and get comfortable because the Cool Mom Expert, Sandi Marx, is here!She joins Sydnee & Marie to discuss what they like in men, messy joint bank accounts, SnapBack uteruses..., how to be the coolest mom at your kids' school, and so much more!Plus, Marie reveals how to scam your way into a free mattress topper!----Listen to The Unofficial Expert Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus:https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus----BONUS EPISODES AVAILABLE NOW ON PATREON:www.patreon.com/TheUnofficialExpertBUY UNOFFICIAL EXPERT MERCH:https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-unofficial-expert-podcastFOLLOW THE UNOFFICIAL EXPERT:https://www.instagram.com/UnofficialExpertFOLLOW SYDNEE:https://www.instagram.com/JustSYDbwhttps://twitter.com/justsydnycFOLLOW MARIE:https://www.instagram.com/Reeezyhttps://twitter.com/MsReeezyFOLLOW ANDREW:https://www.instagram.com/mcgui_guyTHE UNOFFICIAL EXPERT IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttps://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/the-unofficial-expertSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Forever Dog.
Ah.
Ooh, look at us.
Ah, we're here.
We have not been kicked out of the studio yet.
Look at us.
We have not.
We haven't gotten any hate mail yet.
I mean, we, I'm, no.
I don't know why we would get that.
No, no, no death threats.
People know better.
But have you checked your spam folder?
We don't have a spam folder.
Also, we didn't intro you yet.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Shh, shh, shh, shh.
she's just excited to be here she's enthusiastic yeah i love it i love it that's why i love it i'm
here for it hello marie how are you doing uh i'm doing really well sydney how are you doing
haven't seen you in a while uh when was the last time i saw you last week the podcast has oh
good to see you look great yeah uh listeners i don't know me and marie we used to see each other
like every day every day all day literally every day remember how much my ex-boyfriend
hated you okay first of all that was like four years ago bitch but that's when we would see
each other every day no i saw you a lot last year did you yes and even even this year it's just as
of late we haven't been seeing each other because you've been getting some dick i didn't get any
between actually that exactly you know when uh when my friend is getting uh her back i'm not
having sex every day you've been traveling that's what you should that's what you should have
we haven't seen each other
because you've been
booked busy and blessed
no Marie's been
going to brunch
falling down stairs
I did fall down stairs
getting her back blown out
I fell down the stairs
butt naked
on my birthday
no way
I was like
because my phone was ringing
you know people love me
and I was like
and I was like
and I bounced
and rolled
and then I
falling in public
in front of people
is the most embarrassing
thing to me
so I popped up real fast
in private
and he was like
oh my god
I thought you fell down the stairs
and I was like
I did
but I'm smooth
yes
I knocked a bunch
of plants down
I would have paid
money to see that
me falling down
the stairs butt naked
yes
I'm actually
good money
$25 to be back
that's not enough money
we ought to spend
on the run
ticket money
to see me
bust my ass
literally bust
my bare ass
Marie
you're a fool
thank you so much
Sidney bought me
an edible today
and it's tiny
it looks like
the head of a gummy bear
so I know that
if I take this
I'm gonna die
what is this
is this meth
it's called on the edge
dude that means
I'm gonna be on the edge
of a bridge later
I'm gonna save this
I'm gonna save
I'm gonna take it
as soon as the episode
is done
and then just be high
for several hours today
oh my god
it's supposed to be
like 10 milligrams
or something
that's not a lot
yeah
I gotta have three of these
okay let me sit this down
put it over there
Sydney what were you
an expert in this week
man
just so much
I guess traveling
I've been traveling
I went to
passport
traveling yeah nah very local i've been using my passport though because you don't have id yeah
and and the person on amtrak was like you could just get a regular id and i was like actually no
i like my passport that's your you you are living on the edge if you lose your passport it's like
110 to replace it oh really oh you didn't know this no i didn't even think about that yeah i
know you replace it replace it who's replacing when i lose my passport that's it when does it
expire um 2023 damn cindy you old shut up damn you old 2023 that's the year that has never even
crossed my mind i started writing 2013 on things recently because i i for some reason my fingers
can't do the eight i'm like is it 13 no this bitch just be lying she's really 57 years old
she's gonna lie and i look amazing yeah i actually just turned 58 thank you so much i'm proud of you
thank you you're great uh yeah so i've been traveling and it's good getting out of new
york city because new york city ain't shit you know people are rude uh they don't get up for
pregnant women on the train who has time you know nobody smiles nobody says hello i got stuff in my
teeth nobody has manners so when you get out you see people who are just fucking happy to be around
that's not true people in new york have manners i've seen people say thank you when somebody
doesn't hold the door for them it's like no that's that's not how i want to be treated excuse me i
want like gazebo energy i want people who have fucking addicts and backyards and pantries okay
that's a closet just for snacks people with addicts are serial killers yes they are but they
say good morning and good afternoon i feel like ted bundy said it to everybody that he killed and
listen before you kill me if you tell me a good morning that what a what a gentleman how about
you let me live and don't talk to me okay okay how about that anyway so i went to atlanta this
weekend for a festival it was cool you know did you go to waffle house i did not go to waffle
house but i went to this place called homegrown and they had these comfy chicken biscuits fucking
bomb comfy comfy like comfortable chicken yes like like you just fucked and y'all you got this
You still got the cum on your chest type.
Oh, no.
No, Sydney.
That's what got it.
My mom is here.
That's what got it.
You got the cum.
It's just, and you just lay there, you know.
You're like, I'll get it.
I'll get it off tomorrow.
Sydney is wet spot.
You wake up just crunchy, like a frosted flake.
And you're like, ooh, this is an exfoliant now.
No.
This is a pumice stone.
No.
Jizz on your chest is not a pumice stone.
That's disgusting.
So you're the expert on things that are gross?
Shut up, bitch.
Anyway, so I had a run-in with somebody on my show.
I was last, a.k.a. the headliner.
A.k.a. you got there late.
Actually, I was first.
Anyway, this guy, I'm like on stage, living my best life, doing my jokes, having a good time.
And he interrupts me because I was talking about these strippers that were at this lounge I had went to the night before.
And he's like, I don't like those.
I don't like those titties.
there and i was like what i was like sir you're wearing flip-flops nobody cares what you want
or you can't have a preference your whole toes is out like nobody cares and so he starts mumbling
he's like well i want to see your titties and i was like oh oh oh oh this was a grown-ass man
this is a grown-ass man in a football jersey i was like are you retired
are you just upset you you didn't get your you didn't get your money this month
talk about it raymond you what's up tell him why are you mad because he was just like he would not
stop like interrupting me and then eventually you know i'm going back and forth you know i'm
roasting him it's great but he's getting mad so he's like just be funny i was like that's what
i've been doing dude and get the fuck just be funny it's like y'all dudes don't know what y'all
want do you want to see some titties or you want to see some comedy you're not gonna get both no
I mean
not for free
if Sidney has the right
outfit on
you're gonna see both
Sidney will throw
a sheer blouse on
a turtleneck
with a cutout
on the cleavage
anyway they threw him out
later and I was just like
later
but you were the last
to comment
yeah I was like
why am I doing comedy
but you know
I made it through
it was good
I'm proud of you
yeah
and they were gonna
fight him after
who's gonna fight him
the ghosts
the ghosts
the ghosts of Harriet Tubman
anyway Marie
what were you an expert
in this week
oh my goodness
Yes, everything that I'm saying is going to be alleged.
Y'all not going to be able to press no charges.
Just pretend that, no, don't pretend, just allegedly.
So I got a bed in a box a few weeks ago, but that's a fact.
Yes, yes, yes, that is a fact.
Allegedly.
And, you know, it's like a Casper, but, you know, like, not that.
Casper was like $1,500 for a queen-size mattress.
And so I ordered this mattress on Amazon.
I went to the website, the mattress company's website,
and then I went on Amazon
because they also delivered it
it was going to be
available faster
but in the review
somebody was like
look
the bed didn't work for me
I called this number
Amazon gave me a refund
and I didn't have to
send the bed back
and I was like
wait they put that
in their reviews
that's what somebody said
or was that a friend
no no no no
that was one of the reviews
a friend of mine
did get a mattress
allegedly
allegedly
allegedly
a friend that I know
got a mattress
he said it wasn't
working for him
he called them
they were like
what if we give you
50% refund and he was like no just
come get the bed and they were like what if we give
you all your money back and you just keep the bed
and he was like okay
and so he kept the bed and he got
his money back so I
said I'm gonna do the same thing so I
went allegedly and so
I went on but I
ordered a different bed but when I was reading
the reviews for it somebody was like it wasn't working for us
that Amazon will not
come pick up a bed that you slept in
it cost them less
money to just give you a refund and let you keep the bed right and i was like okay well i could do
that allegedly so i called them on monday and and the bed has been bothering my back i put my old
mattress protector on it because i have a bad back and my body's been bothering me your body's been
back since you've been anyway so i've been falling down the stairs after that dick well i fell on my
butt not my back anyway so i called them amazon was like all right well we'll give you a free
a full refund and you have to dispose of the mattress yourself and i was like who who's gonna
pick up the bed allegedly and they were like you got it you can go donate it to a church or a
goodwill and i was like but when do i get my money and they were like where you'll have it now right
so i was like great thanks amazon then i went on the website of the company because i'm like well
if i'm keeping this mattress i should get you know a mattress protected at works and i called them
And I was like, hey, yeah, the bed is hurting my back.
And they're like, if you send us a screenshot of your order receipt, we can send you a free
mattress topper for your bed.
And I was like, all right.
Oh, my God.
Let me do that right now.
The scam continues.
Allegedly.
So I'm getting the mattress topper on Monday.
I was like, you know what I should do with this money that I got back?
I should get like some new, like really nice, like linens, like some cute sheets.
Right.
And I went, they were like $250.
For some linens?
For some linens.
I'm like you know what
I'ma just go to
TJ Maxx
Yeah
Or Macy's
Macy's
They got good sales actually
Bed Bath & Beyond
Also has really good sheets
Yes
And coupons
Check the coupons
Allegedly
Anyway
So that's what I was
An expert in this week
Is just getting like
A good night's sleep
On a free ass bed
Allegedly
The scam man
So if anybody wants
The number to call
Slide in my DMs
I'ma tell you
Who to call
But sis
You can't tell everybody
Because then
Everybody's gonna be doing it
And they're like
I wonder what
they're not gonna tie that back to me allegedly
anyway i've been sleeping like a baby okay but marie when you got it you were like i know how
this is gonna end well my friend who said that he got a full refund and got to keep the mattress
everyone that he told that story to it didn't work for them really it didn't they they couldn't
they either came to pick up the mattress or they just wouldn't give them their money back
interesting i know i was like why would you doubt me like you're so fucking blessed bitch thank you
so much here i am people telling me just sleeping on a spring mattress yeah sleeping on a spring
spring mattress people telling me that they want to see my tits and i'm like damn if i just had a
free mattress i mean honestly it'll change your life better i'm having a great week
phenomenal speaking of phenomenal our guest today phenomenal woman is she phenomenally
phenomenally is she uh this guest our guest today is one of our favorite performers here in new york
and we say that
every time we have a guest
but we only book people
that we like
true
I mean
I mean
with a fact
with hard facts
a capital dot
real news
she is a funny storyteller
that performs
literally everywhere
you guys are gonna love her
she's our cool mom expert
and this is
these are
I mean that's why
Sydney was talking
so crassly before
she don't respect my mom
she cool though
yeah yeah yeah yeah
it's the very funny
the very lovely
it's Sandy Marks
you just wanted to shock me
and see if I would really react
no Sandy I've heard
to your crusty chest
Sandy
I know
listen I know you
I know how you get down
you're kind of the cool mom
that you could also call you
by your first name
Sandy
Trash Mom
not Trash Mom
you have two
Cartier bracelets on
yes
okay
the forever bracelet
yes
you're a great mom
when I go through the airport
it takes a long time
because you have to like
They basically do a body cavity search.
No, they put me through the x-ray, that machine.
The one that gives you cancer.
Yeah, they're doing it.
And it's like the wand everywhere.
And I always make the same stupid joke.
I always say, you have to buy me a cocktail first or some bullshit.
And they always look at me like, you're the 200th person who said that to me today.
The TSA.
The TSA people are like, all right.
They don't give a shit.
Do they check your hair?
Well, they couldn't get.
There's like a meatloaf in here.
I have so much hair.
No, you don't.
The Lindbergh babies is good.
It's bad.
A lot of hair.
Sandy, let's talk about who you are and where you're from.
Like, first of all, I met you a couple years ago.
You were on, we were doing a show together.
That's correct.
We were doing a show together and I saw you and I thought, I'm madly in love.
I want to take you home and tuck you in somewhere and then give you like porridge in the morning.
Porridge?
That sounds poor.
Like mother, this is not a porridge.
That's what poor people think.
Granola.
A bowl of granola.
Sandy is so.
Mac and cheese.
mac and cheese
in the morning
how do you make it
how do you make
your mac and cheese
I make it
I buy
everything is
gluten free
in my house
oh
no
no
Sandy
you're not a cool mom
no it works
you're a mean mom
yeah
no when I was
raising my kids
I gave them
a Kraft
26 cent box
of Kraft mac and cheese
26 cents
that's what it used to cost
26 cents
when my kids were little
I'm old
my kids are old
so now
I feel like your kids
are the same age as us
well my twins
are going to be 30 this year.
They're a little older than us.
For me.
And my son's 25.
I met your son.
Yes, he's cute.
Sandy had a show in Brooklyn
and your husband and your son
were both there.
And your husband is like
super supportive of you.
He was so supportive.
I was there at that show too.
The stuff that Sandy,
as Sandy talks about,
I was like,
your son is here.
Yeah.
You talk about this
with your son?
He grew.
He's 25 years old.
He's 25.
I did a show last week
and my daughter was in the audience.
This was in L.A.
And it was all about how I left her father.
Nice.
It was real classy.
Origin story.
Super classy.
And I kept referring to her in the audience saying,
Lindsay, I'm sorry, but it's true.
And everybody started laughing
because I was being so horrifying.
But Lindsay's used to it.
I'm her mother.
She knows.
She's proud of that.
Yeah, she likes it.
Well, is the story embarrassing?
How you left her dad's story?
It doesn't make him look great.
And you're not supposed to do that in front of your kids.
no he's a man
but she's a grown ass woman
he knows that they're terrible
okay
yeah it's alright
you know it's like
she's a grown up woman now
she can hear about her dad
a woman in her 30s
knows if she has
crappy parents
that's true
yeah
and knows if she has
good parents
yeah she doesn't need you
to tell
no
tell her how bad he is
or whatever
but he was
I mean her dad is amazing
as a dad
he was just a shitty husband
so I kept saying
get you a man
who can do both
that's right
be a bad husband
and a good dad
yeah right
that's
that's my dad
so how long
were you guys together
I think I know
the story
so my first husband
I was with for like
14 years
and my second husband
I'm now with
for almost 20 years
so I've been
basically
you got that
two lifetimes
that long term
coochie yo
long term
put tenure in it
commitment cooch
yeah I've been
you know doing
hospital corners
with another dude
in the house
for like 35
40 years
hospital corners
what is that
You've been cheating for 30 years?
Are you like tucking after everybody leaves in the morning?
For 40 years, I've been making a bed for somebody.
Is what I'm saying.
Oh, okay.
Just think about it.
40 years.
Okay, so you're married and you every morning make the bed?
I make the bed because my husband leaves for work.
You can't just throw the duvet over the bed?
No, it's old school.
Well, I'm home.
What am I doing?
I'm watching.
Sandy, you got to do what the kids are doing.
Just leave the bed the way it is.
I'm going to get into this 12 hours from now.
I don't have to make the bed
I don't put no duvet
or nothing over
I make the bed
I watch The Price is Right
and I make the bed
oh wow
love The Price is Right
but not Drew Carey
The Price is Right
I like Bob Barker
The Price is Right
yes
creepy old man
yeah
Cheryl
look like he's
touching everybody
touching people's elbows
and like the smell
of their back
that's The Price is Right
that I like
well wasn't there a rumor
that he was stooping
one of the models
probably
what did you just say
he was stooping
stooping
is that a cool mom term
yeah
he was yeah
Getting down with one of the models.
Stopping.
Well, him and Hugh Hefner were really good friends.
So a lot of those girls were like playmates.
The Price is Right girls?
Yeah.
They were playmates.
Oh, so he got those.
He got us.
Yeah.
Sandy, what size bed do you sleep on?
A queen for a queen.
Sandy, I went to your house and-
What?
I went.
She had a comedy show there.
You were out of town.
Did you steal anything?
It took everything for me not to take something.
I was like, she just had everything out.
And I was like, wait, you have all these people in your place, and you're not locking shit up?
Girl, you didn't take like an Orkut.
I went into her bathroom.
She has every wonderful beauty product ever.
And I still look like this.
No.
Sandy, you look incredible for your age, and you're killing it.
Stop it.
Oh, you're sweet.
Yeah, you always have like a designer.
Like, I saw her at a show.
She had a Chanel boot on.
I said, Sandy, I know that those boots were like $3,500.
of those. And honestly, I wanted to
take everything in your place, but I didn't.
And you could've, you could've. No, no, no.
See, cool mom. Cause you probably have insurance on shit.
That's what it is. That's why she says,
come in and taste it. Yeah, we have cameras everywhere.
Word? I didn't even know.
Just teasing. I was rubbing
my butt on everything. Oh, good, good.
That's nasty. Like a dog.
Like a dog that needed to wipe his butt.
It was marking my spot,
you know, my territory. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, but Cindy,
you live in, like, Westchester. Like, I made it.
The Ritz-Carlton, bitch.
yeah
yeah I'm like Eloise
old Eloise
living at the hotel
but it's a condo
it's not a hotel
but it's nice
I have to admit
I like it
I do
I really like it
I'm proud that I get to live there
you got art
like real art
yeah I have real art
like fun art
yes
you have fun art
at your place
that's how I know
that you are cool
she's lived
yeah
no I've lived
I've got the track marks
so let's talk about it
let's talk about
how you got to be so cool
like were you a cool kid
in school
no I was such a loser
I mean everybody
total loser
oh I was a loser
I had like
I was really ugly
and I had a lazy eye
no
yeah I did
you had a lazy eye
I had one eye that roved
Sandy
I'm kind of low key
I have a
wandering eye as well
you wandered
I had to work with these prisms
for like six months
and they retrained my eye
it looked like Superman shit
like up there
so
so it's not a surgery
you have to like
train your eyes to like
no I retrained
Dr. Lochterman
made me retrain my eye
and I also had a horrible
like buck teeth
face mouth
because I sucked my thumb
so I was a hot mess
I really was
not until I got to high school
and then I only became
more like
acceptable
because I was in
all the school plays
oh you were a theater kid
I was the class clown
oh so you had talent
you were talented
well I wasn't necessarily talented
I was just loud
I mean that's
I mean I've been told
that's my ministry also
if you just
shout shit
people think you're funny
if you're louder than everybody
loud
so then things kind of
worked out after that
and then I fixed everything
your teeth
so like I don't remember
what color my hair was
word bitch
you don't even know
what color your eyes are
my teeth
you know braces
that I got fixed
fixed my nose
I believe in that Sandy
you fixed your nose
oh yeah
oh yeah I had
yeah it wasn't good
what did your nose
used to look like
it's cute now
well yeah cause it
it was Dr. Klein
or whatever his name was
fixed it
but no it was a mess
I was a mess
you had like a little
like a little toucan sale
I had a little bit of a bump
I wasn't too canny
but it wasn't
it wasn't pretty
nothing was pretty
but I believe in that though Sandy
I believe in
you gotta have your
you gotta be ugly as a kid
so you don't
like the predators
don't want you
and then you get
beautiful when you get older
I also have a theory
that children
that are really
exceptionally good looking
when they're really little
turn out to be cows
when they grow up
yeah
it's so true
everybody in high school
that was banging
oh my god
trash
they look like
pillowcases
and they all have like
four kids
and it's like
sis we just graduated
what I like to say
is they look
road hard
put away wet
that's my expression
wait
road hard
rode hard
put away wet
so that they dried
it's like a horse
you ride them hard
and then you put them
away wet
see Sandy's talking
about horses
we've never had a guest
talk about horses
everybody that's done
the podcast has been poor
oh my god
well I don't have a horse
actually I'm afraid of horses
because I'm sure
I've told you this
my sweet husband
he lost his first wife
in a horseback riding accident
she fell off
if that ain't the richest
way to die
that's Julia Roberts
murder right there
yeah she fell off a horse
and she died
Was she an equestrian?
Yes.
She was a jumper.
She was a professional horse rider
and she died at work.
And then I tell the story
where we go to Mohonk Mountain Resort
and they had like horses there
and he's telling me
to get up on a fucking horse.
Oh, he's trying to kill you.
He's trying to get that life policy.
Did you see the staircase?
Really?
He killed his first wife.
Unbelievable.
Anyway, but he would never.
No.
It was an accident.
You said he would never.
But he has.
In 1988.
Actually, I think that was the year.
I was there.
It's a good year.
It's a good year.
So you were not a cool kid.
I wasn't a cool kid.
But you were in theater.
Yes.
So then I became,
and when I found out that I could use comedy
as a way to save myself was when I was in high school,
there were these really awful, mean, bitchy girls.
They were in the bathroom smoking and I was in the stall
and they were like bruising to like cut somebody, okay?
Like cut somebody for you?
Cut somebody.
and I came out of the stall
and I could see
there was somebody
who was going to hurt me
because I had already
once been beaten up in school
and so one of them
like pulled on my sweater
like to wallop me
and then the other one said,
oh no,
she was that funny bird
in Sing,
the school show,
leave her alone.
And I thought,
okay,
I'm not going to get killed.
That's your street cred?
That was my street cred.
Sing?
She's funny.
She's funny?
Well, you know,
that's the same.
I was a Gleek.
I used to like run around
singing The Hills Are Alive,
you know,
that's kind of similar
to Tiffany Hatterson's story
she was in like
foster care
and these kids
were going to beat her up
and she just kept
telling them jokes
and that's why
she is who she is now
if you can
and I find that
if you use comedy now
in the most mundane
situations like
if you're arguing
with American Express
I'm sorry
okay MasterCard
if it makes you feel
like I'm less elite
if you're
arguing with JetBlue
anybody
no I just want to tell you
you're funny
if you do American Express
they always give
the customer
so nice
they're always
the customer's always
right with Americans
like I get some money
they are
but if you make
the person on the phone
the customer service person
laugh
you'd be shocked
at all the things
they'll do more
the extra stuff
I'm not laughing
when I'm a representative
I'm leaning on the zero
I'm a supervisor
let me speak to your supervisor
but as soon as you can
disarm them
and make them laugh
they'll give you
whatever you want
it's true
they'll be like
I don't usually do this
and you'll be like
wow
my first
my mood is angry
when I'm on the phone
with them
except for when I got
this free mattress
allegedly
so Sandy
you didn't get beat up
because you're funny
and then
what happened
did you go to school
to be an actor
yeah I went to
I was at
first I went to
University of South Florida
Party City
Party City
which I did not like
because when I was there
this was a long time ago
I was there like a month
and one of the dudes
in one of my classes
I swear he asked
if he could see my horns
because he said
are you a Jew
oh my gosh
and I said yeah
he goes can I see your horns
he wasn't kidding
he thought I had horns
so I transferred out
and I went to NYJU
it was a much better school
NYJU
it was much more appropriate
and I was in their
drama department
but I had to drop out
because I couldn't afford
to stay
I had no money
how much was the tuition
back in
it was so cheap
it was $125 of credit
that's all it was
but how many credits
did you need
you need like 12
you need like 12
every semester
that's a lot
yeah I couldn't afford it
I had no money
I wouldn't have been there at all
I feel like
there's not a lot of money
nothing
also I might add
that back in the early 80s
anyone
And if you could breathe, you could get into NYU.
Because I wasn't very smart.
But, you know, they just, if they wanted your money, they would take you.
So, after you dropped out, what happened?
So, then I started, you know, trying to act.
And I was also a dancer.
Oh, so you started stripping.
Stripping.
Stripping.
I had worked the pole.
No, I didn't work the pole.
Oh, I was like, really?
I know.
I was too little.
A little body?
But I did, I was a professional cheerleader for the New York Cosmos soccer team.
Wow, a soccer team.
I didn't know they had cheerleaders.
And they paid $15 a game.
Can you imagine?
how many games did you do?
It was two a week
and then public appearance,
personal appearances.
Yeah, but that's still,
it's not money.
That's $30 a week.
It's nothing.
$30.
You thought $125 was not a lot
but then you think $30 is a lot?
And you have to get to
MetLife Stadium
which was Giant Stadium
at the time
and it was really stupid.
Yeah, that's dumb.
But then,
so after I did that for a while,
I realized,
ugh, this isn't very good.
Where were you living?
Like, were you like
staying at your parents' house?
Well, I still lived at home
and then eventually,
well also,
rent was really cheap
back in the early 80s
So I lived on the Upper East Side
for like $300 a month.
Wow.
In like a walk-up.
Good old days.
Imagine, that's what,
I would be so well off.
You could do it.
You could do it.
$300.
I wouldn't even speak to anybody.
I wouldn't be on this podcast.
Excuse me.
I'm sorry, I'm going back
to my Upper West.
I would have a monocle.
It's really,
Cindy would be the monopoly.
That's right.
I would have been the banker.
But then I met,
I was taking a dance class
with an actor,
Peter Weller,
who was the original RoboCop,
if you've ever seen that movie.
No way.
He was the one in the robot costume?
Yes.
And he told me.
In the Tin Man one?
He was the original one in aluminum foil.
And he told me to meet his agent.
And I thought he was telling me that because I was like packing the heat or something, right?
Like I was going to be a star.
Yeah.
But he told me that because he said, you have a good personality.
You should be an agent.
So I went there.
And before I knew it, I was an assistant at a talent agency.
And I stayed.
Making stars.
Yes.
I thought he was trying to hook you up with somebody.
I thought he was going to hook me up to because he thought I was adorable.
But no, he just said I had it.
So you got to go personality.
You should be not behind the camera.
You should be like in an office.
Like in the back room.
In the back room.
In a cubicle.
But it's like the kiss of death.
Like if you're described by a guy to another guy.
Oh, she's a good personality.
It means she's a dog.
But well, that's like when women are described as a dog.
They're dating and they're like, he's nice.
He's nice.
You know, he's ugly.
Yeah.
But he might have some money.
Yeah.
He's nice.
He's got health insurance and dental.
he's a really nice guy
he's a good guy
he likes his mom
he looks like a troll
yeah
he looks like Shrek
so I wound up doing that
and then eventually
I went with partners
and we opened up
our own agency
and I did that
yeah then I was a boss
what was it called
it was called
Schiffman, Ekman, Morrison & Marks
S-E-M-M
it was pretty big
Jewish, Jewish, Jewish
and Jewish
no actually only
two out of four
Jewish, Jewish, Russian
Jewish, Jewish, Jewish
but it was good
it was really good
and it was fun
and I got to represent
lots of really cool people
oh who did you rep
Let's talk about James Earl Jones.
Mufasa.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The legendary James Earl Jones.
Yeah.
Welcome to the Atlantic.
And we had Dane Cook.
I like him.
He's actually a good guy.
James Earl Jones and then go to Dane Cook.
And then we had.
Oh, my gosh.
I had so many interesting people like Jane Curtin from Third Rock from the Sun and Kate
Nally.
Didn't you say you also repped Wesley Snipes?
Wesley Snipes.
Like a young Wesley.
When he didn't owe the government millions of dollars.
Well, before he started making money.
When I met Wesley, he was working for the New York Telephone Company as like a repairman.
And he was making extra money by massaging the agents in our office.
Wow.
Sandy, now you're going to spill it.
Wesley Knights was doing couch calls?
Sandy, we're not trying to get sued here at Forever Dog.
Allegedly.
No, she knows.
No, it was legit.
He had one of those chairs you see at the airport.
I did not let you put dirt on my Wesley Snipes name.
How dare you, Sandy.
You take it back.
Wesley Snipes was given the back rubs.
Wow, he really wanted to be an actor.
I mean, it worked.
It worked.
No, no, it was just the back rub, like airport style.
Sandy!
The back rubs.
I can't believe you just said it.
So you said the Wesley Snipes.
Wesley Snipes and rubbing balls.
Rubbing balls.
I mean, it worked.
He got some casting.
Yeah.
He's good.
thank you for that
no he was good
did he give you a massage
no I wouldn't let him because I was so nervous
no no no thank you
no thank you strong black male
because I was too nervous he was too
attractive you're lying
you definitely got your scalp
I was too nervous
you got your edges moisturized shut up
he oiled your scalp
he hit your temples
he was too cute
he was fine
He definitely was good looking.
A young Wesleyan.
And he had like muscles.
But not as big as they became.
He used to have like normal muscles.
He had like a lean basketball 1980s muscle.
When you got a trainer and shit, then that's when you get real muscles.
But I also represented a comedian named Joe Piscopo, who was like an old SNL-er.
And he used to be really cute.
Who he was massaging.
But he got too muscly.
He got like so muscly.
It was terrible.
You don't say you don't like muscles at all, Sandy.
Not big ones like that.
He was blown up in the morning with helium.
Oh, my God.
So, Sandy, what do you like in a man?
Because, you know, you've had two husbands.
Well, I like them slim.
Slim, smart, cute.
Not too good looking because then the waiters only pay attention to them.
I don't like that.
I've dated those guys where the waitress looks at you like, oh, you want something, too?
I don't like that.
Well, where are y'all going?
Where the waitresses could see like that?
Fancy places.
Yeah, it's fair.
Places with, like, cloth napkins.
Yeah, you got to go to the places where they look down and they're like, I can't even look you in the eye.
Yeah, I can't look at you in the eye because I have to work here.
Like a TGI Friday.
What are you talking about?
I have to wear all those buttons on my vest.
Yeah, Sandy's not going to TGI Friday.
Go to the one that has name tags.
A sizzling platter.
I'm not at the Olive Garden.
No.
No, no.
She's getting like real Italian food.
It's like Italian women back there cooking.
I just like a nice sweet face.
And I like a guy who's willing to listen so I can carry on the way I do.
I married someone who's willing to listen to all my bullshit.
That's good.
I feel like most men, they'll pretend to listen.
They'll sit there while you're talking and they're like,
well, let me see.
What am I going to do for fantasy football this week?
Yeah, and then you ask them to run back.
They won't be able to.
They'll be like, what?
I'm listening.
You hate that girl at your job.
I love your hair.
What you mean?
Yes, that's true.
They're like not listening.
That's true.
So, okay.
So in all this, after Wesley Snipes gave you a massage,
in all this, you ended up having some kids.
Yes, three of them.
you twins
Tress kids
twins
I had Trey kids
yes I had a set of twins
with my first
I actually had all my kids
with my first husband
why am I confused
work
work
C-Session
C-Session
C each time
I have like Velcro strip
in there now
work
snap back uterus
snap back
snap back
that zuzu
that fanny pack
well I had my twins
10 weeks early
oh wow
that's a lot of weeks
they look like
little gerbils
when they were born
they were so tiny
oh wow
yeah they were in the hospital
for seven weeks
shit
yeah
but they're fine now
I mean they were
ten weeks early
so seven weeks
is like
they had a cook
they stuck them
in the cooker
they put them
under that light
they were in the slow
yeah in the crock pot
do twins run in your family
nope
identical twins
I think are just
a freak of fate
oh you didn't take
any drugs or anything
no
I figured
I was just so aggressive
about wanting a baby
God said
okay we'll show you
he was like
well let's take two
yeah
we're gonna give you two
so yeah
we had two girls
and then four years later
I had my son
and then
When he was four, I decided I wanted to get out of my difficult marriage.
So that was tough.
When he was four?
My son was four.
I had three kids under the age of eight when I decided to get a divorce.
Good Lord.
Yeah, that took balls.
That definitely did.
No, that took uterus.
Especially since my husband had told me that nobody would ever date a woman with three kids in the suburbs.
I mean, that's kind of like, I feel like that's true.
It's not.
It's not.
It was reigning men.
I swear.
She said, yo.
No, it was.
She was at the supermarket.
They were like, let me help you carry those bags to your car.
It was, no, it was not a problem.
Well, if you work in this, I worked in the city.
I had a business, so I was working.
And I met a lot of interesting people.
And I put it out there after I got divorced.
Like, introduced me to a guy who's, like, worthy of running a small democratic country.
That's so specific, Sandy.
Like, some guy who could, like, Justin Trudeau.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that, you know.
Like a Canadian.
A Canadian, yeah.
So and I started meeting all these cool dudes.
And my theory is, is that you got to do it at the right age, like between.
Well, it's between their first wife that they have kids with and their trophy wife when
they're like when they're 55.
So when you're like 42 or 41, the guys are still like have their soul about having like
a real relationship with a real woman, not OK, not a 30 or a 28 year old when they're
55 like that.
So what date do you tell a man that you got three kids?
right away
because I don't want them
to leave the check with me
on that first date.
Leave the check with me
on the first date.
But also remember
because I'm older
we didn't have
the websites
that you guys have now.
We weren't swiping or anything.
There's no swiping.
You would go out
with one person a month.
Yeah, like someone would
you had to put it out
to your friends.
Yeah, and like men
didn't know that they had
as much like options
as they did.
So they stuck around
a little bit more.
Yeah, and men like to
have a relationship
more than women.
Like if men leave women
it's usually for another woman
women leave men
because they're miserable
it's different
okay go ahead
that's a bumper sticker
right there
it's true
hey Sandy
hit them with the
cool mom facts
send them some merch
it's true
that's a gem right there
men need someone
to be there
when they get home from work
to complain about their jobs
or make them their meals
or whatever
I don't know
I mean I don't want to
grossly generalize
but that's
all we do is generalize
that's our brand
that's my experience
that's my experience
so you know
but women
we're more independent
and we're willing to really
we are independently waiting for you
to pay for this chick
that's hilarious because every time I see a chick
she with four other bitches
I'm like what can't I just hang out with you
why you got your whole crew with you
lucky for you I don't have any friends
I was lucky because I was able to go out and get my own house
you know I didn't have to depend on a man
you got your uh from the
where was your house Sandy
it was in Scarsdale
Scarsdale
sounds like bread
like that's
wow
well that's where
that diet doctor
got murdered
Dr. Tarnower
do you remember that
the diet doctor
murder in Scarsdale
no
super fancy murder
well talk about this
we got time to talk about
murder on this podcast
there was this woman
named Jean Harris
who was like a
like the head mistress
at some girls school
okay
fancy
Jean doesn't sound
like a mistress name though
oh she was like a
a fancy
sound like a secretary
like grand dame
Jean
get Brian
Jean
Jean
and Jean
had an affair
with this diet doctor
how dare she
a diet doctor
and he was in Scarsdale
and she
in a fit of rage
in a peak
went and shot him
and killed him
and
in a rage
she was in a fit
what was she upset about
he was cheating on her
but
was he married
was she married
I don't know those details
but I do know
that this finishing school
chick had to go
to that prison
where Martha Stewart went
the fancy prison
so not a real jail
yeah like potholder
making jail
yeah
so she's the jail
that had like
the little sandwiches
with the crust cut off.
I think,
and the watercress,
little watercress mayonnaise.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's Orange is the New Black Jail.
So that's where we lived.
So yeah,
the fancy crime location.
That's nice.
Yeah.
So anyway,
but I was able to be on my own
and we had joint custody
of our kids.
So the kids,
unfortunately for them,
they had to go back and forth
every Friday
from one house to the other.
Did you have a nanny?
Yes, I had some.
Of course she had a nanny.
She said he was a woman at work.
Yeah.
Okay, I just wanted to
let the listeners know.
Yep.
They know.
They can tell.
yeah
anyway but
it worked out
because I was so sure
this was going to
fuck up my kids for life
because who wants to
live in two houses
actually that sounds
like wealth right there
two homes
that's two Christmases
yeah
that's true
and a Christmas
and if you're tired
of one person
you just go out
to the other house
I'm going back to dance
that's true
that's possible
you could threaten
with that
slam the screen door
but it seemed to
work out somehow
and the kids were cool
I mean it was hard
at the beginning
because we were also
I was the first
heathenist woman
in our neighborhood
to leave a husband
heathenist
yeah these women
were not having it
well I had like
a scarlet D on me
because the women
I think were threatened
by the fact that
you left
I was like
I maybe think they thought
maybe I was going to try
to steal their husbands
don't say that
you tell us the truth
you were watering your lawn
in some booty shorts
and you were coming
out to check the mail
with like your shirt
tied under your boobs
and you were like
hi Carol
hey Jean
And they were like, look at this hussy.
And the guys were afraid to talk to me because they thought that I might be infectious.
Like, if I get involved in their lives, their wives are going to leave them.
Leave them, too.
So it was a funny time.
But it all worked out.
It's fine.
So they didn't invite you to none of the, like, neighborhood watch?
Wasn't a lot of potlucking going on.
Not a lot of potlucking?
Yeah.
They didn't invite you to charades?
Well, I did have a few good friends.
But actually, my very good friends.
They was host, too?
They threw me a divorce party.
They were all hosts.
Yeah.
all my friends
who are probably
all of them
are now divorced
and remarried
they knew
they knew the future
what's a divorce party
like snacks and cocaine
well it's more like
no it's more like
housewarming
where they brought me
like pots and pans
and shit
they're like
you don't need
this extra pot
now that you ain't
got no man
you're gonna need
this plant bitch
cause you know
you lonely
so how were you
dating when you
had three kids
well because
every other week
I was on
Sunday
She had a sex schedule
Every other weekend she was having sex
Because the kids weren't there
Well the staff in my office always knew my week off
Because I'd show up to work wearing like
I don't know like tighter clothes
My hair got bigger
I was wearing those FMPs
You know
FMPs
Totally remember those
So you're going to work
Dressed up for a date
So you were in your date clothes to work?
That's bold.
Well, I would have different shoes, perhaps, in my drawer.
You walk in with sneakers.
You walk in with the New Balances, and then you leave.
Yes, my yuppie New Balances.
But I always had the FMPs in my drawer.
So then I would just bring my makeup to work.
Because I would go on a date right after work.
I would get picked up at my office, or I'd meet him in some.
You heard that, Sydney?
Picked up at her office.
This is before Uber.
Well, that's why you're so cool, because you lived your life.
you as a mom I feel like
moms become a little uncool
when they just it's all about
the kids and you don't do anything for
yourself. Well one of the first reasons I
knew that I needed to leave my first marriage was because
we had nothing in common we didn't
get along and I knew my kids one day would
eventually grow up and then
when they did I was going to be stuck
living with someone that I really didn't
know we didn't have a great relationship
so I thought I better get out now while I'm still
mildly attractive. You were together for 14 years
that's a long time to not have nothing in
common with somebody well we had our kids in common that was yeah but the kids were four and
five four and five and eight eight twins were eight that's something no i've never
all right listen this is my biggest piece of expert advice okay let me let me never ever
have a joint account i wasn't gonna do that anyway never i always had my own can i have your card my
bank account was always my own always i still were making money well because i just thought
I don't want someone looking over my shoulder asking me why I bought that moisturizer.
It's mine.
I don't, you know what I mean?
And I'm not in a situation like that anymore because my husband would give me the world.
But it's my, it's like, I don't do that.
I just, you do your thing.
I do my thing.
So wait, well, when you want to use his money, you just have his card?
Yes.
But does he have your card?
Why?
Why would he need my card?
Why?
This is my card.
I mean, we do everything like we bought a home together.
We do everything together.
And obviously he could have anything.
he wants of mine, but I like to have my own
accounts. I want to hold myself
accountable for my shit. That's all.
It's like a psychological thing.
Can I clap for that one?
Hold yourself accountable.
Have own accounts.
Always. Cool mom right here.
Cool mom. Okay, so then your kids are older.
You're married. Now, talk about
how you were raising your kids.
Were you spanking them? Were you
slapping them in the face? Were you twisting their ears in public?
That was my mom's move.
I never, never, ever
this sounds really unrealistic
but I never had a time out
or punish or yell or anything
so your kids are spoiled
no no no
they're not really
they're very
they were sort of
genetically predisposed
to being like
you had a nanny too though
that nanny was hitting them kids
well actually
was she West Indian
yeah
she was Jamaican
yes she was
they did have a couple
of tough nannies
oh tough
we call them Haitian
is that what you call it
no you're tough
but I was really
oh you got a Haitian here
yeah I know
No, I had a Grenadian nanny when they were little.
Yes, Haitian.
But the one that was the meanest was the French nanny.
Oh, yeah, French people were mean.
Oh, she was mean.
She was tough on them.
But anyway, but they were good kids.
So, no, but I was the mom who went to pick up my son from camp
because he wasn't having fun.
And all the other moms told me I was an asshole for doing that.
But I said, I'm sorry.
He's not happy.
I'm bringing him home.
And the camp director's looking at me like, you know, I'm Satan.
Like, I can't believe you.
What kind of car were you picking your kids up in?
I feel like it was a cool car.
A BMW.
No.
Mercedes?
Yeah.
It was a Benz.
It was a Benz though.
That's why they were mad.
They were like,
you came and picked them up
in a Benz
and what were you playing?
Some Rick Ross?
No, no, no, no.
No, no, at the time
it was probably...
Frank Sinatra?
Oh, no, no, no.
Out the WV.
No, I'm more of like a Whitney
or a...
I want to dance with somebody.
She's like,
Ryan, get your butt in here.
Actually, oh my God.
That reminds me, once I went to pick up my school,
my son at middle school,
and I was blasting some rap song
where they were like,
saying like, motherfucker, something or other.
And my son's like, mom,
cause my windows were rolled down.
I had, oh, we had a convertible.
And everyone's like, motherfucker.
Oh, was Jenner, it was J Lo singing with like.
Ja Rule.
Ja Rule, that's it.
It was Ja.
L-U-N-E.
What's my motherfucking name?
That was it.
Sandy's, she got pulled up.
And I pulled up.
She got some Celine shades on.
Oh, wait.
And what made it worse is, I swear, I had a T-shirt.
I always like to wear T-shirts that said shit.
I still do.
And it said skinny bitch on it.
Sandy, what were you going through?
I don't know.
I was crazy.
And my son was like, oh, mom, you've got to get back in the car.
Oh, you get out of the car to meet your kids?
Yes.
Yes.
Get in the car.
Like a cool kid at school.
She had cool shoes on.
That's why.
She had them Chanel's.
She had them slides.
Slides.
She had a clog on.
But we did have the house that all the kids came to.
Yeah, because you were the mom that was like,
I would rather you drink here than drink outside.
Yeah, I was the cool mom, definitely.
Who do you guys like?
Jim Bean?
Jim Bean.
Does anybody want a Negroni?
No.
An old fashion?
Are you doing martinis today, Cheryl?
But like when it was prom season,
we did all the makeup for all the girls in our house.
But the kids were partying at your house.
Oh, so they had a strong eyebrow, I bet.
They had a strong.
No, it was a thin brow.
They had a dusky lid, yeah.
Dusky.
I don't know, but there was a lot of lip liner going around in my house.
Sandy, you're hilarious, yo.
I can't.
Oh, and the kids, because our house was right near the high school, and we also-
They would cut school and come to your house.
Yes, but this is obnoxious, but we had a swimming pool.
So the kids would come between classes for a swim and then go back to school and shit.
So fun.
And I always left the door open.
Sandy.
Yes.
And nobody robbed you.
Never.
You always left the door open.
All the doors were unlocked.
and the keys were sitting in our car
in our driveway
I just figured the world will provide
nobody ever ever took a fucking thing
this is why we're not doing well
because we're worried about
you know whatever
but the world will provide
can we put that on a shirt
we should get that on some jacket
can we get some merch
here's an example
here's my carm example once
I gave my husband when he turned 50
I gave him a Vespa little motorbike
which was so cool
and once
somebody tried to steal it
from our front driveway
they stole it
they went a half a block
and they left it
because they didn't know
how to like
start it again or something
it might have stalled out
so nobody could even
try to steal something
because
karma
because the universe
was like actually
the universe said
no you do not take their shit
the universe was like
I got you
the universe was like
this white woman needs this
meanwhile
I fell down the stairs
and the universe was like
well I mean
you deserved it
it's her birthday
oopsies
let her fall down the stairs
oopsies
now wait sandy i have a question like how do you talk to your kids like they're they're older now
so yeah but growing up did you talk to them like they were already going to be adults like they
already understood did you maybe talk to them well i i was trying to be a good listener which
i might not necessarily always had been a good listener but i did respect them enough to talk
to them in a way where i wanted them to be honest with me and we were always really close so they
would always tell me a lot of stuff that i don't think other mothers would hear from their kids
are y'all fucking or what
mom his dick is so small
that I never wanted to know
mom it hurts
only ask questions you want answers
Sandy how did you get to period talk
let's talk about that
I don't think I ever had to
I think they do it at school
in hygiene when they're like 9 years old
you didn't get the period talk in school
I got the period talk at home
once you get that you can have babies
and that was it
I've never gotten a sex talk from my parents
I think the only sex talk I ever gave to my kids was, I'm not raising your children.
So I don't want any MTV teenage girl pregnancy.
But I didn't have to worry.
They just weren't those kind of kids.
What the hell does that mean?
They were like, when they were young, they were kind of timid.
What the hell does that mean, Sandy?
They weren't like, roustabouting.
What the fuck does that mean?
I guess I was a roustabouting.
Yes, you were roustabouting.
Because you didn't get the talk that your mother was not raising your kids.
I mean, when they went to college, all bets were off.
but I didn't want
to know about it
yeah but you had
the party house
your kids
I feel like your kids
talk to you about
guys that they like
or girls that they're dating
they come to you
for like advice
on things like that
like I don't talk
to my mother about dating
they definitely made out
with somebody
in front of the house
oh yeah
absolutely
and Sandy was
like she stayed up
she was sitting on the couch
just like waiting
for them to come home
they're pretty good
but once we had
once I took our son
down to Times Square
for New Year's Eve
and I said to the girl
you don't care
about your children
it was so stupid
it was so stupid
Somebody called CPS.
I said to the girls, I said, don't have a lot of people over.
Because I knew they were going to have a party.
I just knew it.
And we get home at like 1.30.
And there is a dude peeing in my driveway.
Of course.
Not even in the bathroom.
Like on the flowers.
And my husband said, you know, you could use the bathroom inside.
And the guy said.
We have three.
We got a few.
And the guy said.
And a half.
It's cool, dude.
I'm fine.
Like, what?
So, yeah, they had some wild parties in our house.
That's not wild.
He's peeing on the petunias.
That's nothing.
I don't know what was going on in the house
I just know it was out I mean who knows what's going on
Wild is if they were cooking K in the microwave
That's wild
No wild is like they were having sex in your bed
They weren't
Not those
Oh you don't know Sandy
We actually have a voicemail from your daughter
Where she says
What do you call that like that side
That side bed
What's a side bed?
A chaise? Like a cot?
No not like a cot it's like a day bed
Yeah, they were having sex in the day bed, bitch.
It's known as a divan, an old school divan.
That's where women used to have the smelling salts and they would want to faint.
The fainting bed, the fainting bed.
No, so, you know, whatever.
But they seem to be, they went off to college.
They all seem to do fine.
And your daughter just got married recently.
Yes, my daughter, thank God, one's down.
One of the twins.
One of the twins got married.
Is there pressure for the other twin?
No, she has a wonderful boyfriend that she lives with in LA and she's cool.
Ain't nobody gay, Sandy?
No.
Damn.
I was kind of hoping
I was kind of
I was kind of hoping
that my son would
but no he's straight
you were kind of hoping
that your son was gay
kind of a little bit
when he was really little
he was so cute
and my daughters
used to dress him up
like Britney Spears
why would you dare
let them do that
yeah because that's what girls
that's what girls do
he was so pretty
but no he's totally straight
all my kids straight
he's terrible
yeah
mainstream
very mainstream
you know they say
one in four
one in five
yeah
well you should have
had two more kids
I know
you'd have a gay baby
yeah too late
I've already closed down
that Velcro strip
but you have us
where are your babies
that's right
I'm gay
yeah
you're my perfect gay daughter
oh thank you
perfect
yes
this is a problematic word
for me
yeah she's perfect
now that I'm your daughter
you got dental
I honestly
want trying to get
this root canal
like tomorrow
well you should meet
my husband
he's a dentist
he's a dentist
word
yeah but he do
pro bono work
what's gonna go to NYU
well he used to do
pro bono work at NYU
but he doesn't do it anymore
but he would give you
a very good deal
what the hell is a deal
what's a good deal
I don't know
a deal is
zero
a deal is
bring me a coffee
and I'll do your teeth
for free
he would definitely
try to work with you
but unfortunately
well I'm gonna have to
get a tooth
so I'll get my
root canal
I'll get my root canal
at NYU
and then come to
you want him just to
give you a tooth
like somebody else's
that's like sitting in a bin
like an old
like a refurbished tooth
a refurbished tooth
no no
he would build you a tooth
build me a tooth bitch
you gotta pay for that dude
yeah how much
I don't know
she don't work for him
I don't work for him
but he would definitely
make you a very
okay I'll talk to you
he would come up
with a good dental plan
for you
okay see
or you could pay it off
really slowly
oh bitch
that's exactly
that's exactly
I was gonna
shut up
that's exactly
like a layaway
rainbow shops tooth
ooh
that is so my brand
rainbow shops
I used to love
the rainbow shops
Sydney loves rainbow now
I was just there yesterday
didn't have anything
my size
love love
Sandy you're not
shopping at Rainbow
still
I used to
I was once robbed
in a Rainbow
stop it
yeah cause they were like
why is this rich ass
bitch in here
you had pearls on
you had the purse
on the crook of your arm
they were like
she got money
no it was a long
long time ago
you brought the bins
in front of Rainbow
they were like
uh uh
we're definitely robbing her
now this is like
35 years ago
I was broke
no it was bad
I don't believe
you were broke
35 years ago
I don't believe
well I
yeah I didn't start
doing well
weren't you born
35 years ago
who was born
35 years ago
Sydney was born
if only
I don't even know
what that means
35
you'll find out one day
when you're 35
now
Sydney well how does 35 feel
I don't know
John was gonna ask you
you just fell down the stairs
that's some 35 shit
no that's some young
20 something
now when she gets to
if she were my age
and she fell down the stairs
she would have broken her hip
I'd have died on my birthday
she's cool
she's still good
you're resilient
yeah
I've been working out
Sydney I feel like
your kids
text you
and call you all the time
they do
they do
they call me
everyone either texts
or calls at least
once a day
and my daughter
will just send me
a picture of a rash
and say what's this
or you know
you WebMD now
do I what sorry
are you WebMD now
yes I've always been
I call myself
the corner
doctor shop
the pharmacy
you can send me
pictures of any rash
and I will have
an explanation
Sydney go ahead
and pull your pistachios
Whatever it is, I got it.
I ain't got rashes no more.
Show her your rashes.
I'm rash free now.
Anything that looks.
I'm gay and clean of rashes now.
Gay people don't get rashes?
No.
I feel like that's a lie.
So clean.
No suspicious moldage anywhere?
No, no.
I have a little mold here.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's fine.
Show Sandy the bumps.
Yeah, I know all this stuff.
But they also, like, they'll ask me about, like, how to deal with bosses or, you know,
boyfriends or whatever.
Okay, well, give us a minute.
other shit if i'm if i okay i what would you tell i'm having a problem with my boss uh he's he's
really on my he's really being mean yes i'm late every day but like that's none of my boss's
business well basically i tell all of my kids that when i was you know a young person starting out
i would jump if they said jump i'd say how high you do whatever they tell you to do with a smile
and you pay your dues and you just eat it until you can't eat it anymore and if it's the kind of
career or job that you really want to
stay in, then just, as
we say, bend over and bear down.
The old expression. Bend over and bear down. Have you heard that
old expression? No, what was the thing you said before? Road hard
and drive left right?
Or the other expression I always say
about hating your job, it's like, I'd rather
bathe an old person. That's the other expression.
What? I'd rather bathe an old person.
Like if your boss
tells you, go do this, you think to yourself,
I'd rather bathe an old person.
It's just the image of what that means.
It's just not a fun thing.
But anyway, I always tell my kids, you know, just suck it up because you have a job.
And if it's a career you want, you just have to do it unless they're either doing something that's, I mean, really harsh or like sexually predator style shit or whatever.
But if it's just normal work shit, just do it.
Where do your kids work?
Well, my daughter works at Lighthouse Management out in L.A.
She's talent management.
And my son is working for a real estate hedge fund in Brooklyn.
Excuse me.
And my other daughter.
You sound like black girls.
Okay.
That's what I was going to say.
I was like, Marie.
Or not.
And then my other daughter is a special ed school teacher at Stephen Gaynor on the Upper West Side.
Oh, you got some good kids.
She's a humanitarian out of the group.
She is.
She's sweet.
They're all sweet, though.
They're good kids.
So anyway, but I'm also like, I just went to L.A. last week to visit Kira.
And we go, I made her take me shopping for weed at the MedMed store.
So cool.
That's, you know, not a lot of moms do that.
I just thought that would be fun.
I wanted to have the adventure.
Do you smoke weed?
Yeah.
Sandy, let's blaze after the podcast.
You take edibles?
Yep.
Sandy, so your daughter took you to get some weed in LA and you're there just like...
It was so much fun.
It was like going into the Apple store.
Yeah.
It was super fancy.
Yeah, when you have coins, it does feel like the Apple store.
Yeah, I'll take a look at that.
Half a dozen of those.
It was shiny.
Is this organic?
Yeah, they had like gumdrops and all kinds of stuff.
Yeah.
Damn, I should have brought you some.
So fun.
But the only thing was I was really nervous because I had to get it back to New York and
I was afraid it would be like.
Oh, yeah.
I bring all my drugs back on the plane.
Like some crime scene where I would be like accosted and stuck in jail.
Well, how much drugs did you buy?
Not a lot.
So little.
So little.
She'd lie.
Sandy, do you know how to roll a blunt?
No.
What a Dutch.
No.
That's what husbands are for.
No.
Your husband rolls the weed for you?
For himself, too.
Yeah.
But does he use Dutch masters?
I don't know.
He uses rolling papers.
He's like gold foil rolling papers.
Oh, yeah, he does.
I can see it.
But anyway, but we had fun.
It was great.
And when we went to see, I took my daughter and I went to see Beyonce when we were in LA.
Which is bullshit because you know us.
We should have been there too.
So good.
How much were the tickets?
Too much.
She's not going to say it.
I'm not going to say it.
That's how ridiculous they are.
$2,000 each.
No, no, no, no.
She said she was in the front row.
She said she could see Beyonce's labia.
There's no.
Like, honestly.
Spanx for Spanx.
no it wasn't expensive
because my daughter
knows people
being in the
oh she got hookups
she got hookups
we gotta quit
this comedy thing
yeah
start making some
what have you done
for me lately Sandy
you got all these
connections
you'll have to go
see my husband
and get your tooth fixed
I'm gonna fix this tooth
get your tooth fixed
getting good with the sound
I will
we have it
you have you know
evidence because
I'm recording this
I'm telling you
I'll be there for Hanukkah
don't worry
yeah you'll come
can a tooth be
one of my gifts
so in other words we're going to be your tooth fair yeah yeah adult tooth fair put a little bit
of cbd oil on that fucking tooth too yeah whatever you need whatever you need yeah i feel like i want
to go back to on the run you went so what's the craziest thing that you've done with your kids
or something that's normal to you but people are like wait what like other people can't um well i
I think every day that sort of happens because I really do feel like they like when my kids go out at night when they're all in town together at the same time, they'll call me and ask me to meet them at a bar, which I don't do because it's just hard.
It's late.
I'm tired.
But they assume that I want to go meet them in some bar at midnight.
That's how cool you are, Sandy.
That they're like, I want my mom to be here right now.
I would never call my mom and be like, one, I'm at a bar and two, I want you to come join me.
Yeah, they do that.
Not even in the daytime.
The nighttime?
Especially now.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, so, you know, I think it's just like a general vibe that they don't think.
I mean, I'm certainly not their friend.
I am their mother.
But I'm the kind of mom.
I'm the cool mom.
I'm the kind of mom.
Yeah, you're the mom for mean girls.
Where they don't feel like they have to hide shit from me.
And they think I will enjoy whatever it is they're enjoying.
When you go out, what's your drink?
What are you drinking at the bar?
Tequila and lime juice.
Oh, you're getting litty.
You got the chauffeur coming
Alfred's coming to pick you up
If you got tequila
I like tequila
Tequila
Tequila makes me aggressive
Does it make you aggressive?
It just makes me awake
Yeah it gives you energy
Yeah it gives you a lot of energy
Yeah
It's like a good
Healthy alcohol
When I did a
The way I see it
It's very healthy alcohol
I did a tequila on the run
Tour as well
Back in the day
And let me tell you
I had all the energy
I never went to sleep
Yeah that's right
I've been also doing coke
But whatever
Well there you go
Same combo
So, but yeah, so like, I'm not like, I don't feel inhibited around my kids to drink with
them or do whatever, you know, we have fun.
So, oh, and we also, this is so obnoxious, but we're kind of the same size.
So my kids will give me their clothes if they think it are.
No way.
Sandy's wearing crop tops in Westchester.
Well, I'm not exactly wearing crop tops, but there are certain things.
You're wearing Mandy's white pants right now?
Yeah, they'll give me their little J brand jeans or whatever.
So cute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sandy, you are cute.
You're the cutest.
You're so sweet.
You're definitely like.
I'm embarrassed that
now you think I'm some
like rich bitch
but I'm not
no but we always thought that
Sandy I went to your place
okay I saw your floors
I know that you're doing
well
Sandy I've seen
them Chanel boots
on your feet
at a comedy show
I said
she wearing
Chanel for comedy
she's rich
she's a Rockefeller
yeah
also I was in your car
I feel like you dropped me off
at the train
Sandy you're Rothschild
yeah
well now I drive
an electric car
because I
I'm trying to
help the environment
to get you.
No, no, no,
because you can afford
an electric car
to care about the environment.
It's electric.
It's electric.
So Sandy,
what's like five tips
that you would give
to like moms out there
to just-
Five is a huge number.
To keep it cool.
You pulled that number
right out your butt.
Yeah, five.
I like it.
All right, so one,
the most basic,
love your children all the time.
No matter what.
No matter what.
No matter what.
You want them to feel safe
so they can actually tell you shit
that they don't think
you're going to be comfortable with.
Oh, I'm not telling my mom
nothing.
Love them all the time.
Two, you don't spoil them, meaning that they have to understand that there's value in money.
I hold money as something very important.
Right.
And if you want it, you better fucking work for it.
Yes.
Because you had to work.
I helped them, but not so much that they could relax.
I also got them out of the house after college because I didn't want to do their laundry.
Get the fuck out.
Not interested.
No, get out.
Go.
Take your skid marks and go.
Yeah.
And I really think it's super important
that my children as siblings
be really kind and good to each other
because I had a sibling who died when I was young.
So I'm an only child
and they're so fucking lucky to have each other.
So I want the three of them to love
and support each other all the time.
That's beautiful.
And be really good to their bonus dad,
which they are.
They love him.
Well, they've been with bonus dad
for most of their lives.
Yeah, 20 years.
And just be honest people that I can respect.
And I always tell them,
don't do anything
that you don't want to appear
on the first page
of the daily news
I'm sitting too late for you sis
okay
nothing good happens
after two in the morning
nothing
nothing
that's some good times
after two in the morning
some of my best friends
are from after two in the morning
so your kids have never
done anything crazy
like they've never
gotten arrested
oh yeah actually
I think she's like
oh yeah what do you mean
all the time
yeah well one of my kids
was arrested because
she had a chalk license
they were arresting
people for that
yes
and it was a racket
they go around
these like small towns
and if they find you
have a fake ID
oh they were bored
they send you
they put her in jail
I had to go pick her up
they took out her shoelaces
out of her shoes
I swear
she was crying
like she had like
Tammy Faye Baker
at the mall
her eyes were all runny
and the poor kid
was like traumatized
I had to hire a lawyer
to get her
she had to do
community service
like I don't know
like a hundred hours
how old was she
when her license was chopped
She was like 19 or 20.
Instead, oh, so she was a year off.
And she wasn't even in a liquor store.
She was in Dunkin' Donuts.
What?
Yes.
Why was she putting up her ID at Dunkin'?
Because next door was a liquor store where her friend was buying.
Yeah, tell the truth.
You're like, so I would like an Irish coffee.
Could you put some Baileys in here?
So her friend was next door buying probably wine or booze or whatever.
And then the cop said, are you here with friends?
And her friend gave her up and said, they're next door.
Bitches.
Bitches.
You can't trust bitches who drink Baileys.
I'd be like, I'm sorry, I don't know you.
I'm just here to get donuts for my mom.
She's outside.
And then my son got picked up once for-
Your son?
Two arrests?
Yes.
But he, no, his was mild.
I don't think we had to go to court, but I think he had-
He had kilos of cocaine on him yesterday.
He had a joint in his pocket.
Oh, and they had, oh, he had a joint in his pocket and they had like a case of beer in
the backseat of the car.
Nothing.
Not open.
Open.
But, not open.
But anyway, so-
A keg in the car and cocaine in his pocket.
so two police records
out of three
but not all three
just two out of three
not bad
I mean that's mostly
your kids
that's all of your kids
that's all the children
because we count
the twins as one
yes
so one had a chalked ID
you know the other one
was using the same ID
sure enough
yeah well they're
identical twins
of course they were
they were passing it
passing it
passing it back and forth
so yeah
so but it still
doesn't seem like a big deal
so what you say
your kids get arrested
and you're like
this is bullshit
or are you like
this is what you get
for doing what you
Like, you did something wrong.
No, because it's bullshit.
It was bullshit.
The cops didn't plant the drugs.
Just like a mom.
It was bullshit.
This is bullshit.
No, it was bullshit.
It was like, first of all, she was in Dunkin' fucking Donuts.
Or she told you she was in Dunkin' Donuts.
No, it was bullshit.
It was like after 9-11, they were very careful about everybody's ID.
It's like such bullshit.
No, I never for a minute thought that it was bad.
I would have done the same thing when I was young.
Shit, I did worse probably.
I don't know.
Okay, well, we got a couple minutes.
that was the worst thing
that you've ever done
for the listeners.
I don't know.
Keep in mind,
we have people listening
in Botswana, Australia.
Well, actually,
I do have a new habit,
which is really bad,
which I shouldn't tell,
but I have this thing.
Just say allegedly.
Well, okay, allegedly,
when I go into grocery stores,
I'm very annoyed
that they don't have
checkout girls
that you have to scan it yourself.
So you'd be stealing?
Oh, we all take from that
self-checkout, bitch.
They dumb.
Why would you let me
self-checkout myself?
Yeah, yeah.
You're like,
This is more bananas.
It's just like juice.
But I do,
no, I do things
that seem really reckless.
Like I'll say
something's not organic,
like the fruits,
which you know
are like twice the price.
Oh, yeah.
Or I'll steal
like the most expensive
small thing,
like a little liquid thing
of vanilla or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I feel like
Bonnie and fucking Clyde
when I walk out of the store.
You're a rush.
She's like,
woo!
Start the car!
Start the car!
Start the car!
We got a Winona Ryder
right here.
Yeah.
No, small time crime,
but there's something
about it I like.
I don't know
it gives me power
it does
I'm taking the power
back from the man
if they can't afford
to have checkout
cashiers
then fuck it
they can't afford
to lose
some organic apples
you're gonna have to lose
I'm getting
an extra bunch
of grapes
allegedly
allegedly
I don't steal anymore
I'm a Christian now
I still steal
Sandy thank you
so much for being here
this has been fantastic
we had such a blast
with you
I hope I didn't seem
like a real asshole
no what do you mean
We want assholes on the podcast.
We are the assholes.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it, Sandy.
Speak for yourself.
Well, I do love you both.
And if you could come live with me, I would say come live with me.
I mean, you going to give us cars?
Yeah.
I mean, a cab to your house is a lot.
So I first got to have like $100 just to get to Scarsdale.
But once I get there, I know that you're going to take care of me.
Yes, Metro North.
I know you're going to have some proper snacks.
Yeah, we have snacks.
You're going to have crushed ice for me.
Yes.
So like, honestly.
Crushed and then also cubed.
Cubed.
Options.
You know she got the ice that comes out the fridge door
No no no
She's old school
Oh you don't have
Oh Sandy you're doing bad
You got a regular fridge
I have an ice bin
But they don't crush them
They just cube them up
Okay well let's schedule some time
To hang out
Let's grab a drink
Anytime
I'm a cool mom
As soon as MedMed opens in New York
will go. What the fuck is that? That's the place
you go to meet the
bud tenders to buy your weed. It's going to open
in New York as soon as it gets legal. Look how big
Sandy's ring is on her finger.
Let me see. That's like
reality Starbie. Oh my god, my eye is just
blind. Sandy, if you were
if there was Real Housewives of
Scarsdale, you'd be like the wife that
threw a glass in somebody's face.
No, I'm not. Threw a drink in someone's face.
No, I'm the one. I'm the peacekeeper.
No, no. Sandy,
you're the one flipping tables over
Or like Teresa Giudice.
Sandy's the fun one.
She would be the one with like a glass of pina colada.
She's like, what are you guys yelling about?
Come on.
No, I want to be that one who's the royal.
What's her name?
The Duchess.
Leanne Sepp.
The Countess.
The Countess.
I want to be the Countess.
Want to rehab?
You want to be her?
She did?
Yeah, she went to rehab.
I mean, none of them.
All the cool ones go to rehab.
Well, I guess I want to be like Bethany then so I could own my own.
Oh, skinny girl?
My own tequila company.
Yes, that would be the look.
That would be good.
That would be the look.
I go that way
I support that
And she has good
Toned arms
I like that
She's toned
I mean she's miserable
As a person
But yeah she's
She's rich
She's rich
You're allowed to be rich
And sad
But you know what
There are a lot of
Very unhappy rich people
Sanda you would know
You would know
You know Sydney and I
Are like
We're on the outside
Looking in
Just fogging up the window
With our poor
A lot of fucked up
Rich people
There are
A lot of fucked up
Poor people too
That's true
Well tell people listening
Where they can catch more
of your cool mom-ness?
Well, my website is
Sandy J. Marks,
M-A-R-X,
S-A-N-D-I
with a smile sign
over at jmarks.com
and it lists all my gigs.
I'll be at the,
I don't know when this airs,
but I'm on the,
I'm on the ladies,
what is it called?
She Makes Me Laugh.
She Makes Me Laugh Festival
next week at the Pitt.
I'll be all over town
whoring myself.
Yeah, it's hard to whore.
Oh, and I'm also
the subject of a documentary.
Oh.
Of course you are.
So who knows when that will get released.
It's still being edited, but we'll see.
Where is it going to be?
What platform?
Well, he's going to submit it to all the festivals.
It's a short doc.
And it might turn out to be like a very bad story.
No, it won't.
I'm hoping it doesn't come out like the Jinx or something.
It'll be incredible.
Hopefully it'll be all right.
The Jinx.
Sandy murdered someone.
Well, thank you so much for being here.
you are my second
favorite mom
yeah we love you so much
thank you
and thanks for our gifts
I love you bye
bye
oh yes
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November 5th
bring your ass
yes
bye
forever
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