MESS with Sydnee Washington & Marie Faustin - "The Dieting Expert" with Chloé Hilliard

Episode Date: January 17, 2020

We have comedian and author, Chlo Hilliard, with us this week to get our asses into shape! Chlo tells us which food she gave up when she was twelve and what are the worst diets she's ever done. Plus, Sydnee has a Jamie Foxx moment and Marie witnesses an altercation outside her apartment window.----Listen to The Unofficial Expert Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus:https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus----BONUS EPISODES AVAILABLE NOW ON PATREON:www.patreon.com/TheUnofficialExpertBUY UNOFFICIAL EXPERT MERCH:https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-unofficial-expert-podcastFOLLOW THE UNOFFICIAL EXPERT:https://www.instagram.com/UnofficialExpertFOLLOW SYDNEE:https://www.instagram.com/JustSYDbwhttps://twitter.com/justsydnycFOLLOW MARIE:https://www.instagram.com/Reeezyhttps://twitter.com/MsReeezyFOLLOW ANDREW:https://www.instagram.com/mcgui_guyTHE UNOFFICIAL EXPERT IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttps://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/the-unofficial-expertSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi, guys. Hello, hello. Hey, Sydney Elizabeth Washington. Hello, Marie Samuel Faustin. How you doing? I'm doing great. Is that, wait, is that your real? It's Samuel.

Oh, my God. It's Marie Samuel. I know I used to say it all the time, but then I've forgotten. It was like, is it really your middle name? It's Marie Samuel Faustin. Thank you. And my middle name is not Elizabeth. It's Britton, just so everybody knows.

Sydney Britton Washington. It's B-R-I-T-T-O-N. Britton. And what is a Britton, sis? I don't know. I have no clue. Like a Britton filter? No.

I mean, allegedly, this was like the middle name of my dad, but I don't believe it. Okay. That was my grandmom's maiden name, Britton. Really? It's spelled the same way. Yeah. She just died. You were like, so you don't say anything messy.

Okay, got it. Yep, yep. Thank you. He said she just died. Don't say anything. Okay. Check your script. She just died.

Appreciate it. Hello, hello, Marie. We're good. We're great. You know, we're here on time. No, we were not, actually. No, we're on time. We're on time.

Okay. We're doing better. 2020. Well, I don't really have a resolution, but I am trying to be better about being on time and stuff. I'm trying. Did I talk about how I was 40 minutes late to a date? Yes. No.

Last month? Yes, you did. Yes, you did. You did. Yeah. Almost an hour late to a date. That was not that far from my house. That's so rude.

He was 20 minutes late. So on brand, but so rude. I mean, me just going to work this week, I was late almost every day. But how late? 40 minutes late? Well, they canceled our meetings, so we didn't have a morning meeting anymore. So it was like, well, what am I getting there at 10 for? You got to be at work at 10 o'clock and you'll be late to that?

Yeah. 10 o'clock is like a good start time, I feel like, for it. Sis, you got nerve. For a quote-unquote 9 to 5. What time was your date? Okay. Okay, exactly. I don't recall, but, you know, I had to throw a look on you.

You want to look good, but you don't want to look like you're trying too hard. But what did you do before the date? I got ready for the date. Exactly. You had all day to get ready for the date. I was at Trader Joe's. I was doing laundry. I was prepping, you know.

I was making sure that my, you know, the labia lined up properly. Shut up. I was minding my business is what I was doing. What was I an expert in this week? thank you so much for asking this week I was an expert at being an eyewitness last night I was in my apartment minding my business

and I heard voices screaming and there was a yellow cab parked in the middle of the street with the lights on and the door open and this drunk white woman trying to get into my building she jumped out and didn't pay the fare so the cab driver jumped out and he was like

pay me my money and she was like you're being a fucking asshole. You're being a dickhead. She was cursing this man out for his $24. And he was like, I guess he was standing in the doorway

and he wouldn't let her get in. And she was screaming at this dude. So, you know, I had to pause, you know, the movie, the film I was watching. I was watching Aladdin. I had to pause my movie. For the 17th time.

Actually, I wasn't watching Aladdin. I was going to just start Aladdin. I had just watched a Jennifer Aniston and Adam Sandler movie on Netflix that was pretty bad yes uh but uh screaming at her at him and then she's like i'm trying to get you the money i had the money since i'm trying to get the money and he wouldn't let her leave and people are walking around and there's like a bus stop across the street this is in the middle of the night and he's like somebody please call the police it's a it's a bunch of black people

outside nobody's calling them none of us are calling the police he's i'm trying to go live I'm like, can y'all back up from under the fire escape so I can get your faces? And then she just takes off and runs up the street. She leaves him in the doorway and she runs up the street. You're being such a dickhead. Why are you being such a... And she's screaming. And he's like, he goes to his car and he picks up his phone and he's trying to call the cops.

And then she comes back because she lives here. Wasted. She lives here and she's still yelling at him. He's not yelling at her. you know a captain save a beige comes around the corner a white man in a in a new balance and he's like sir leave this woman alone leave this woman alone the door of his cab is still open he's just trying to get his 24 dollars yeah the white dude is like well what happened and she's like i she's like i already paid him i venmoed him oh my god and he's being mean to me i was like wow and he's

like the white dude is like well dude if she already paid you like you know like what's the problem i'm in the window like wow so he's like he says to the white girl he's like well show me show me your venmo and she's like no i'm not no and he's like do you have money on you do you have your cards he was like no he's like well so how am i supposed to and then she starts she turns on him of course she does anyway i don't know how it ended i jumped on the phone but i think oh my god I don't know what. He was there. Literally, it was like half an hour of him just trying to get his money.

And I was like, does she live here? I wonder which one of my neighbors she is. But she seemed like a fun one. I don't know. I've just seen dudes in your apartment. I mean, no, your building. Wow. Shad.

She said, well, you know, you live in a brothel. I've never seen men there. A whore house. A whore's house. Anyway, I was there. I was ready. My phone was charged. I was ready to shoot it if I needed to.

But she didn't have no coat on. She had on like, you know, like a BB shoe. Of course. And, you know, everything just sloppy. A Carlos Santana bag. But, yeah. But the whole time she's screaming, I heard her story change a bunch of times. And I was like, if this had been anybody but a drunk white woman, like this scenario would have played out completely differently.

Like the way she was screaming, the white dude popped up. But hey, bro, leave her alone. She already paid you. What? Is this guy bothering you? No, but she's bothering me. Praise be a Becky. That's what it be.

I'm not praising a Becky. But anyway, Sydney, what were you an expert in this week? What was I an expert in this week? I went through like a little TBT situation because I wanted to be inspired. And something made me watch Jamie Foxx, I Might Need Security. Okay. I watched his whole special again. And I remember just watching it when I was like younger and was like, this is the funniest.

This is the best special out. And then I rewatched it and I was like, oh, this is really problematic. And no jokes. Like he's a he's a character. Right. It was like it felt like a one man show. He's like playing music. Yeah.

He was repeating himself a lot. And he was telling the story about LL Cool J. And that was probably the best part. He gets into Africa and he talks about, you know, you get instant AIDS there. And I was like, I'm like, how come they haven't re-pulled this up and canceled Jamie Foxx? Well, I mean, because he's making fun of Africa. White people don't care about Africa. Truth.

That's why he's not canceled. They're like, well, you do get instant AIDS when you go. You know what I mean? Like, remember the white lady that went on a trip to Africa and she tweeted before her flight took off, headed to Africa, hope I don't get AIDS. And then she put her phone on airplane mode. Heard the tweet went viral when she landed. then she was fired from the job.

No, that was a guy. That was James Charles, the makeup, the first guy that was a cover girl. No, it was a woman. James must have said it later. He did the same thing, yeah. Oh, my God. Why don't they pay $18 and just get the Wi-Fi?

Is that how much it costs, in-flight Wi-Fi? It's a little expensive. What did James say? When did he say that? It was like, I'm going to get Ebola. And then when he landed, he was canceled. They keep trying to cancel him, but he still. He keeps on coming back.

He's still a cover girl or whatever, so. He's herpes. There it is. Keeps coming back. Yep. So, yeah, I just wanted to be inspired comedically, and I just found out, like, all the stuff that I thought was funny 10 years ago,

not as funny in 2020. I mean, I haven't seen the special in years, but I remember thinking it was really, really good, too. Africa. Yeah, I mean. Jamie Foxx is funny. He is. He's a funny person,

But if you look at a stand-up special and you want set-up punchline, it's not that. It felt very loose. I was like, did he write it in his day? Yeah, but every comic is not a set-up punchline comic. Right, right, right. I'm not a set-up punchline comedian. No. I be telling these long-ass stories.

I mean, I don't think that they problem out. I'm not talking about getting AIDS, but should I add that to the set? No. Will that get me an Academy Award? No. but speaking of a stand up comedian who's not problematic

speaking of Academy Award yeah our guest today she is a stand up comedian she's a writer journalist she's out here

she got a freaking book out she's an Amazon yes it's called Fuck Your Diet or F Your Diet F Your Diet yes wow

and she's actually our dieting expert yes give it up for Chloe Hiller Chloe what's up thank you

hi Chloe well first of all Do you have any thoughts on anything that you heard this far? I definitely would have called the cops. On the white lady? Oh, I love calling the cops on white people. Oh, wow. Any opportunity, I'll be right there.

And I would have stayed in the window with my curtain pulled back to see them arrive. And I would have given them a call back number two, just in case they needed it. Just in case. Yeah, I love calling the cops. That's our reparations. Oh, wow. Calling cops on white bitches, especially when they wild, loud, and drunk. Of course.

This lady took off running in her little ankle boots, ankle booties. And she's your neighbor because who's to say she won't do that in the building? Like, what if she gets drunk? What if you try to come home and she's drunk and she don't know you? And she's saying, why are you coming in my building? You got to set that tone early. Didn't even know that. Wow.

Didn't even know that. It's a snowball effect. It is. You let her get away with this. Yeah. Now she's not letting you in your own damn building. You can have your new dick appointment coming by. he down there waiting for you, buzzing

in. She's like, I don't know you. Who are you? Cockblock and Becky. You're an asshole, Cockblock and Becky. That's a new one. Hashtag it. Merch. And Jamie Foxx, did you remember the special? I never really watched that entire special. I remember

clips of it when he was doing Brady Bunch, right? He did a Brady Bunch on that one? I don't know. No. He did Any Given Sunday. No, no, no. I'm saying like the song, the Brady Bunch song when he's playing. Oh, yes. On the piano. I mean, I know that part, but I never really gravitated towards Jamie Foxx because I agree. I don't think that his type of comedy was what I was interested in. Also, I never thought about comedy before I got into comedy.

I never watched comedy like, let me see what they're doing because I'm going to do this. It never crossed my mind like that. No, I was watching it to watch it when it came out, but yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so to me, I like to show. I always thought he was just silly, so I never really was like, oh, let me see what he else is doing. I'm a big fan of his interviews I just feel like when he does like

a daytime appearance or a late night appearance he's just fun it seems like you know he's like a good guest you know his stories are good

he's like Tiffany Haddish in that way or she's like him in that way oh absolutely and I think that's something that we should be really cognizant of like when you start doing press

how you can like engage them and also always control the conversation because they don't really know what to access as comedians

so you kind of always have to and what they do normally is like when you do a pre-interview they'll ask you things so they can set you up so you can just do

your basically do your jokes in the interview form anyway so just be as like as animated as possible oh honey he controls the narrative because I've met him several times

and it's whoo it is a Jamie Foxx show it's he's talking and I was like is anybody gonna try to get in the convo no

then let him rock well that was the whole thing about like Tiffany Haddish when she was doing Press 4 Girls Trip she did that she told that story about going on a Groupon

with Will and Jada Smith yeah and now she's the spokesperson for Groupon yeah beautiful like she does ads for them mmhmm

ah it's beautiful and she was just being that was her truthful story that was an honest she was cheap and she got a Groupon and that was it

and Will Smith got on the Groupon with her yeah well I keep telling my story about Uber and they still haven't sponsored me yet

this is crazy you gotta say it on late night you gotta do it on late night oh so I have to be somebody got it okay I heard you yeah

I mean Sydney I feel like we've been telling you you gotta be somebody literally every week you're like I want free stuff and we're like you're not famous

I mean you definitely you starting to get free I know that wig is free okay the wig is free wow just hell my business thank you

Maven Hair you guys I have a code I'm dropping it you it will already be dropped but yes there's a code

if you want to get Maven Hair I'm trying to get my hair back what's the code I don't know why she's sitting on this gold mine bitch I just I gave you the alley

okay I gave you the alley-oop-oop. Chloe and I, two black women sitting here. We want some free hair. You order your hair, and then they hook you up with a free stylist. They install it for free. So for the Sydney special, does it come with a MetroCard, too? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, darling.

You got to walk there. No, you get a stylist that's close to you, certified, that will do it right. And you can see their work. It's great, Maven Hair. You can see their portfolio. You can see their book. Yes, you can see what they work on. Go see.

I'm going to talk to you about it after I got to set my wig game up I got you I'll get you a cold boob what kind of wigs are you interested in like long silk things

well so okay so I wore a wig on my breakfast club interview and it's like it's a 100% human hair it's really thick and it matches

the texture of my hair it looks like your hair oh girl they dragged me in them comments they was like who's this tranny with this wig

off the rip and I was like this is crazy but you know it's so weird to me it's like it was so crazy to me I didn't take it personally

at all But it just felt interesting how people's reaction to natural hair aesthetic is, which is this wig looks like blown out natural hair. But you're so used to women, especially black women, having like silky flowing in the wind hair. Then when you see a textured straight hair, you're just like, oh, why is her hair like that? And she's like, this is what my actual hair looks like. It's called self-hate, ladies. Oh, it's so much self-hate. Because like, and not everybody likes their hair to be silky.

Like, I love a blowout. I don't like silky hair. J'adore a blowout. meanwhile back at the ranch i'm here uh petting my brazilian which are peruvian with your hair from paraguay yeah thank you yeah no i mean but that i mean that's the look that you like but to me i just me i was always so conscious about my hair anyway because i always want to like reflect something that's realistic for a woman seeing it that's like oh i could see myself looking like that not like i could never see myself looking like that and so i've always

wanted to manage my image to be on parallel with how i look naturally i don't ever want to show up and be like who the fuck is that person that looks nothing like chloe and so i just got a wig really nice wig i still like i'm gonna wear it i don't care keep wearing it friend of course but it just sort of was interesting like the reaction was like what's up with her like like matt like also the early comments are always the trolls always people got something to say so they were like what's up with her hair and then like finally someone was like oh no i think that might be her hair because like the front of that is my hair so yeah you actually talking about like and you have long thick hair beautiful hair gorgeous thank you you're just on the run you're on tour so you don't

have time to be doing your own hair every single show yeah and that was another thing it was like i had to come to terms it's like i really don't want to do my hair every day and secondly it's all about like um it's like quality control it's like being able to have the look that i want on a daily basis without like freaking out and having a heart attack and throwing my arms up in the air and, like, wanting to cut the shit off, you know? So it's just, like, I want to just be able to have that look. Ugh, I miss my hair. Really?

I miss having hair. So what you going to do? What you doing? Well, see, and it's so, my head is so small that, like, I'm like a XXS in wigs. It's rude. Dude, just make one. Nah, just, I'm a grown out.

I'm going to bleach it one more time. Okay. Because I want to be blonde for, like, the end of this month. And then I'm going to have to cut the blonde out. and I'm going to grow it out. But I keep cutting it. I've been shaving it regularly because those first six months of growing it out,

I'm dreading it because I know it's going to look so bad. No, but this is the thing. I've cut my hair at least three or four times in my life. Like shaved it off. All the way off. And what I realized that I wish I had done, I wish I had done more fun cuts during that grow out process. Like if I had done like a taper cut

with like designs in the back and like more length in the front, some color, I probably would have enjoyed that length more but I let my shit grow out like straight up Willis different strokes

I feel like I'm gonna look like a little homeless man and it just and I should have probably styled it more but also when I was

cutting my hair like that people weren't really like cutting women's hair with style it was just like oh you just got like you know send us those photos

we'll post that oh yeah yeah yeah yeah we'll put that on the Unifish Extra page yeah that's fine how long did it take you to grow your hair back

my hair grows back whenever I cut it off about I would say about like two and a half years like all the way back down to like my shoulders yeah yeah yeah you have very very full beautiful hair edges are intact um where where are you from chloe brooklyn new york born and raised i usually don't see people with edges like that in brooklyn

one of a kind we bringing the best baby edges is full uh love to see it yeah here for it um okay so let's talk about it you how tall are you first of all i'm six one 6'1", probably about like 240 pounds because I gained weight over the holidays. You don't look like 240 because she's 6'1". Yeah, because I'm 6'1". Also, it's interesting, as I've gotten older, where I carry my weight has changed. So this time, when I've gained weight, it's been mostly in my butt and my thighs. You do got a little boonk there.

The boonk boonk is cute. I don't cover it because Sydney sexually harasses me every time she sees my butt. Oh, stop it. No, last time I saw you, we were taking pictures and you were trying to cover your butt. And I was like, please take your coat off. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm not taking photos for you to post on the gram and you got your butt covered. I don't even really think about it like that.

I just, you know what it is? Because growing up, I never used my body as like a sexual piece of desire. It was never something I was like, oh, I'm about to hit him with this. I never like. You're like, bam, shoulders. Yeah, I never, I never really like, I mean, I got boobs, I got butt, but I never capitalized on those things. So even as an adult, I don't think to like flaunt those things in photos.

I don't think that's what I go to. It's like I look back at it. So when you say you didn't really use your body, that means you was paying for all your meals in your 20s? In your teens? Yeah. Wow. I never, I couldn't be, it was hard for me to be like a kept girl.

It was hard. Also because I just didn't have a personality for it. Let's chat about that. What do you mean? To tell a man, yeah. So I have conversations, right, with this one guy who was, you know, fat ugly big had money whatever oh that's like quintessential sugar daddy and so i had all my girlfriends being like just try just try to be capped like what's the problem where did the first

of us give us the backstory where did you meet this fat ugly bald rich well i worked in i worked in entertainment so i was just i would be in parties all the time i worked at source magazine i worked at vibe look at you you are a tbt yeah yeah so i would i would be at like part like monday through thursdays when we would go out like after work and this is when people this is when record companies have budgets. So they would, you know,

I went to one party. I'll never forget. I went to one party. It was at Nikki Beach. I remember Nikki Beach. Everything was white. Everything was white. Yes.

And sand and seashells. I don't know what the, the thing is, you never know what it's for, but it's like something promotional. But nobody gave a shit. You just go there. It's like a new liquor

or a new something. And they had Hennessy bottles like on the table as decorations, like full real Hennessy bottles. And I just went into this like big cylinder glass vase and like went in

and grabbed a Hennessy bottle and just put it in my purse and this dude was like yo I saw you and I was like and I don't care so and I don't even drink Hennessy but I just like took it

and then we just started talking he was like that's how you met him he's like oh she really needs my help no no I think he was like yo she don't give a fuck

like he was just like I like your style yeah cause I cause also in those situations even like even in college

because I was always a bigger girl and I was overweight and I was chunky and fat and unpopular and bully I never saw myself as being a catch like physically like I knew mentally I was kids like I could go toe-to-toe with any man I could make him laugh I can impress him I can like you

know knock him down you could intrigue him but it was all it was always like the best analogy is like if I met a guy it wouldn't be until like the third time that we were around each other that he be like oh wow you're pretty because I never put that first I was always shooting shit with him or like making him laugh or saying some bullshit like something like intellectually I was always like enticing him and then he would look at me one day and be like oh you are actually

cute. Well you know these men they got cataracts. But that was me but that was me because it wasn't I wasn't doing like oh what's up hey how you doing I'd be like yo what's up what's good we going I want to eat like that like that's how I talk to guys so. Honestly I feel like that is the blueprint that's how you should be

hey what's up I want to eat. So I would I would meet guys like that and they would be like oh you know you so like oh you so funny

and so it was that was how I got guys but then this one particular guy he was just he just was used to being a sugar daddy

and so I remember he would like pick me up and he had like a Cadillac Escalade truck and you know

all this shit early 2000s yes and so I lived like in West Boba Fuck in Queens and he would like

pick me up in the city and take me home and I had like a really big apartment because it was in West Boba Fuck, Queens but I lived with my cousin and he was like

listen he was like I'll pay your rent but I need a key to your apartment and you can't have nobody else over here and I can come

whenever the fuck I want and I was like no thanks how much was your rent okay what was the rent looking like my rent was not

it was $600 it was like it was not like $750 but that was like the entire that was for the entire apartment that was like the entire apartment

was like $750 and I was like and you didn't want to help you and your cousin out no I don't want him walking up in my fucking apartment whenever he felt

like that to me I just didn't like that sense of like not having control over my life and I realized he wasn't really going to come by

you living queen he was just saying that he was joking with you nah he would've he would've come by he'd pop in like once a week yeah that's

once too much Sydney would you would you take that offer if somebody was like I'll pay your rent but you can't have nobody over here

and I want to be able to come over whenever I want if the rent was $2,800 yeah that's what I'm saying like yeah it'd be whatever

right now in my part absolutely not not where you at now Yeah, but $2,800? Yeah, a nice apartment. Come through, dude. I don't want nobody in here anyway. You know what?

But when I think about the whole Catwoman thing, it just reminds me, Cassie is the quintessential Catwoman. And she wasted 10 years of her life with Diddy, and they have nothing to show for it. But did she waste it? She saw the world. She put out an album. Nobody heard.

No, I don't think. I think that she was, first of all, to be with somebody who you can't publicly be with, because of their image is already I feel like it's a blow to your ego she was out with him

every time what you mean no no no no for like the first like the first like six or seven years like they wasn't even in pictures

like they like if you were so if you were at a party with Diddy and I've been at parties and he's been around New York City same

and if a photographer comes and you say you're Cassie and I'm Diddy and we're standing next to each other the photographer put the camera up he'd be like no

put your camera down and then he would go over to another side where she wasn't there and then take pictures with the boys. I feel like people say that Cassie wasted 10 years of her life, but she saw the world. She didn't spend any money.

He was probably giving her a cute little allowance. She was in a bad movie. She was not a good singer. She was never going to be famous in that way. And we talk about Cassie now, but she don't got no real skills. Oh, Marie. I'm just saying. Cassie is listening.

She's not a good actress, and she's not a good singer. I mean, listen, she's gorgeous. she's gorgeous she could have she's she could have been a kylie or a kendall uh jenner she could have had a makeup line she can still do that though yeah i mean now she's a mom i think her focus is different but i mean like imagine the your best your best 10 years yeah but the 19 19 but the life that cassie has now is because of diddy i mean she met her trainer she was a trainer look at god that's what i'm saying she has a son now i know that's a long stretch that's a long the universe blessed her honestly that's like putting 10 years into a job

true it was a job i was a waitress for 10 years okay and you don't have you don't have cassie money uh well i have titties but you don't but who paid for them i did exactly did he would have paid for cassie's true yeah it's all i'm saying you know it's a it's a win lose yeah no yeah you gotta look at it like half full half empty but to me i don't i could not be in a situation where i was in a relationship or a business transaction with somebody and i just didn't have the autonomy to do and be whoever i wanted to be i could do it uh for a little bit uh i could do i could do like two three years uh i could do 12 months uh sugar daddies if you're listening uh holla at your beach uh chloe you keep saying that you were like you grew up you were really big like how much

did you weigh when you were younger so i got when you were born um when i was born i was small i was like i don't like six pounds no maybe like six pounds one ounce but i was like really long it was like a tall like long baby um and then i didn't get i didn't get big until i just started gaining weight until about like five or six years old and i would say probably around like fourth or fifth grade i was probably about my mother's five fives i was like probably like five two three in fourth grade damn chloe yeah how old are you in fourth grade nine ten you were five two you were wow okay so you were taller than your mom almost almost yeah i was definitely like when i was like four or five i was like almost on her shoulder so she i know that she's five five and so i was

about like five two five three and probably like uh close to like a hundred and probably like 20 pounds what so you that's me now exactly you weighed this yeah you were fourth grade yeah oh my god chloe gee was it in the milk yeah was it no i just was bad i just no i mean i think of course of course it's a diet so i mean in my book i talk about like how we don't realize like what we're exposed to as a kid influences our our relationship with food and my mother did a good job she didn't take me to fast food i wasn't allowed to like do mcdonald's like maybe like once a year for like my birthday right but it was also like a lot of processed stuff and sugars and you know things that we don't realize that we retain and so the biggest like aha moment so as

i got older recently i started eating for my blood type and based on your blood type they can tell you like a list of foods that don't work with your body what's your blood type oh i don't even know what my blood type is blood type a is that popular or is that oh no oh no oh it's like the rare rare swear okay well the thing is that you you can definitely find out your blood type they have a little finger prick test on amazon that's how i did it and it's basically like this like little um medically treated like strip of paper and you just poke your finger and then you put a drop in and then however reacts to let you know which one oh do you know your blood type no i don't think i've ever i've never known i've never known it you should do it you should do it and it's cheap

and that's what i'm telling people about it because if you go to a doctor they charge you like you know money for blood work but if you can just do the finger prick test okay i'm gonna do it maybe like four or five dollars i'm here for it and so i'm blood type a and blood type a should really be um should really be vegetarian or vegan and so it makes a lot of sense because i stop eating red meat like i'll eat it every once in a while like rare but i don't buy red meat i don't cook red meat right if like my brother has a steak i'm like let me get a bite and that's all i need but i gave a red meat like like 12 years old i was like i don't like it i'm done you gave it red meet when you were 12 yeah that's a big step you were so mature i was just over it i didn't like

it i just i feel like well you had like cool parents i just i i feel like in my haitian ass house i can't imagine being 12 and saying i'm not gonna eat that type of food yeah yeah not at all this is what we eat here well my i've been had by that point i've been through so many diet and weight issues by that point they was like okay fine like we not because so i'm jumping around but like I gained a lot I gained a lot of weight and then in elementary school and and I was the youngest the tallest and the heaviest and you know I got bullied all the time and then my mother was gorgeous I mean she's still beautiful but she was like fit like size four long hair you know lighter than me like you know you got pictures yeah Paula Pat yeah I've seen pictures of your

mom yeah like she you know she she gave me my mom to me she always gave me like Felicia Rashad vibes like that mom like that like that look hurt like very sick you know shoulder pads like you know fluffy hair like that feather bangs you know and so she just didn't know what to do to help me because i was so bullied i was bullied so much so she just like gave me slim fast one day like she sent me to school with some fast and so like for like two weeks i had slim fast she wrapped it in foil and she was like this is gonna be a lot she had it in a paper bag like a homeless man drink it on the train as a kid that's insanity to me and so then i went to school and i would you know now i'm sitting at the table with my son i didn't i knew i didn't know like the first day

and i was like all right i'm just gonna drink my mother gave me and then the kids were like why are you not eating lunch i was like oh i have a milkshake and it was like oh your mother gave you a milkshake and i was like yeah and it was like well how she get in the metal can i was like yo i will say i i drank slim fast as a kid because i like the way it tastes i don't know who bought in my house but I just liked the way they tasted yeah yeah

I only liked the chocolate one it was oh really I don't like strawberry I like the strawberry one I knew you were a strawberry fan

Ensure is my shit Ensure is my jam that is the shit vanilla I don't like none of that shit now there's like that chalky milky I don't like it

you gotta shake it real good yeah cut it with some water no no no add milk yeah well not anymore no

friend oat milk yeah oat milk I love oat milk but yeah and so okay so when I was talking about the eat right

for your blood type So when I was looking into it, it said that something I should stay away from is pumpernickel bread. Pumpernickel bread is not good for my blood type. And it's interesting because that was the only bread we ate in my house as a kid. And so you're thinking about like, well, when you eat. So I'm not a scientist, but I've been on so many diets. So when your body eats something that it doesn't accept, it creates antibodies. And that's how your body protects itself in order to process this thing that it doesn't really want to eat.

And so you may have reactions to things, but you don't know that that thing that you ate made you have this reaction because you're eating so many other things. It's not like we're it's not like we eat like single meals of just one thing. So if you're eating a salad and it has chickpeas and olives and tomatoes and onions in it and you're just like, I don't know something in that salad. But you don't you never know what it is until you eliminate that thing. And then even when you eliminate something from your diet, it takes 21 days to purge all the antibodies. 21 days. yeah so if you so if you ever do a cleanse or a detox you should always do it for 21 days so that you can really purge your body of all the antibodies so you can really then one by one

reintroduce things into your diet to see how you react to it in 21 days is the amount it takes to pick up a habit yeah look at that yeah so how so smart okay a word and so i was thinking back like damn i was just eating this bread that i shouldn't have been fucking eating my whole childhood like who's to say like that that's something that like contributed to like my body and my like digestive system and how i process certain things and i mean also now i learned that i can't eat i can't eat chickpeas so no hummus damn um no mango tomato coconut cashews bananas okay all the cool things everything that's life are you living chloe yeah what can you eat am i supposed to eat wheat and gluten um okay you gluten free sis no i'm not gluten free but like there's certain things that

i realize like when i eat like as an adult you eat things and you're just like oh i can't eat that thing and now i have more of an understanding as to why i can't eat those things if you do the eating for your blood so what can you eat i can eat a vegan or vegetarian diet limited dairy um limited protein i can do chicken chicken or turkey but red meats are not good for my body can you still do fish fish white fishes but certain fishes no and in the book that i have called eat right for your blood type it actually lists all the things to avoid things that are neutral for your body and things that are good for your body oh wow and so that to me has been the most like productive way of eating because like i said i've done every diet i've been on

pills i've been on powders i've been on no food i've been on water diet like okay so what's the first diet that you ever went on it was the slim fast it was slim fast in elementary school and then it was like another powder after that that my mother ordered and so she would like make the shake in the morning and have and have me drink that and then like drink something else at lunch so that was powdered and then after that how long were you on that for i mean i fought and kicked and screamed and we would have knock down drag out arguments every day before school and my dad was like just cut it out like she's miserable just let her be this like just make her a sandwich did you lose any weight not a pound because i didn't do no physical activity you were just

like well i'm just gonna drink this shake yeah and this is gonna sit here yeah it's gonna sit in my stomach but that's another thing it's like when you grow up in new york city you don't as a kid you really don't have a lot of physical activity you don't i mean you go to gym class maybe once a day or once every other day now kids go to gym class once a week and and in the 80s growing up we wasn't going outside and playing like my family was not letting me go outside and play like it was height of the crack epidemic even at my elementary school when we went to the when we went to the the playground there was crack files everywhere they would have to like the suite before we could go outside and play so it was just like not a good time to be outside

just running around and if you was out running around i mean your parents didn't really give a fuck or they wasn't there or something that was their vials on the playground i grew up in Oakland California and like playing outside was like the thing that's the norm like I had

two big wheels I had a bike I had skates like climbing fences trees you always bragging about I'm just saying like

I had two big wheels yeah you know that's just that was just life you know we didn't we didn't really have

any big kids in my class no we didn't it was in New York City especially at that time it was like you better be careful because you know you be snatching kids up

and don't need from the ice cream truck they put razor blades in the bottom of the cones it was like all this other shit that you just heard all the time people it's like nah i'm gonna let my kids go outside like that yeah yeah i mean yeah i also came from a very protective family and i was the first grandchild so there was even more so they wasn't gonna let me go out like that i wasn't

allowed to play outside like run the streets you ain't gonna be running if that's the thing you ain't gonna be running these streets and you're like all right i'm gonna be sitting you're like but i want to go out but you would watch other kids play outside oh yeah or i would be in the backyard helping my grandmother do some crunchy shit like shell peas or like cut up deer meat cut up deer meat deer meat where was the deer coming from somebody you know there was always a cousin of somebody that just went hunting somewhere

and brought up some meat from south south just freezer full of deer meat just hooves in the ice cube no not no damn hooves y'all over there eating Rudolph no that was very rare but like I was always with my grandmother doing something of running errands

but I wasn't just like out like that and so I that was like the first I said elementary school I was on slum fast And then like powdered shit And then when I got to Junior high school Not so much

Because I went to a school With like a lot of West Indian kids And they were big And they were like You fine Like I don't know what You tripping

They're like you're not big No like you good You're skinny Yeah you fine Big boned Yeah and then when I got To high school I started playing basketball

And I started losing weight Because I was working out But then I wasn't eating Because I didn't know Anything about like nutrition I would eat a bowl Of honey nut Cheerios In the morning

And then go to school And not eat all day because who's buying school lunch? Not I. That's not cool. You can't be sitting and eating no school lunch. I had a free lunch in school

because we was poor. Yeah, I mean, I got free lunch too, but you wasn't eating it because people was like, ew, you eating a burger from school? That's gross.

My auntie made me lunch, but it was like, it was a senior citizen. No, but hold on, hold on. It was a senior citizen. Hold on. Wait a minute. She's basically

a white woman over there. Oh my God. You grew up in the seventh heaven house? She's senior citizen though. They're making sandwiches with the thinnest amount of mayo. Not enough. One slice of meat.

They were being very, very particular about how much stuff they get. They needed the bologna to last for a while. I love how I said I didn't eat lunch at all and she complained about having a sandwich. She's still trying to minimize the fact that someone made her a sandwich. She's like, my auntie made me a sandwich every day. She made me lunch every day. But it was the worst sandwich ever. You probably had chips and you had a fruit in that bag.

I did have a fruit. Exactly. There was a yogurt in there. No, a bruised apple. No, continue. chloe no well you know because i play basketball you got to keep up appearances you can't be just you know you don't you just had to be cool so you didn't eat school lunch and i would have like a dollar and then i would just eat like a candy bar from the vending machine and then i would have

basketball practice and play for like two three hours and then go home and be starving and i did that yeah and i did that for like at least three or four years that's just to know until like one day i like passed out on the train yeah i passed out on the train because i was over hungry and i hadn't eaten and I was just like doing physical activity and so I had I realized like

in retrospect I'm writing this book I realized I was like I legit had an eating disorder like in high school hands down wait when you passed out on the train

first of all what subway was it oh it was a J train I was like that's the worst train to pass out no it's not it was fine

I was coming across the Williamsburg Bridge my stop on the J train is Marcy Avenue so I was like like I was on and I was standing up I was standing up

I was holding a railing and I was like I'm so hungry you know how you just talked to him I was like I'm so hungry just get off this train you'll be fine

you'll be fine girl don't worry we're just going to walk home it'll take you like 10 minutes to get home you'll be fine you'll get something to eat when you get home

and as I'm like talking to myself the next thing I know I'm on the floor and I'm like pushing myself up and I'm looking around and everybody's like

oh my god you just fainted and then like this woman was like do you want a banana I was like no I don't like bananas oh my god

do you want a seat no I'm getting off no no no sit down sit down so I just like got off like head of shame you know like

shame my head down and then I went downstairs and I had like like 20 cents in my pocket and i just went to like the asian fruit stand guy and i was like please let me just get an apple he was like fine and then he gave me apple i just like devoured it on my way home and didn't even tell my parents i'd like pass out on the train and then wow that was high school and then when i got to college i still played basketball but i started learning more about nutrition because we had like a health you know a health person

and a trainer and a coach like three coaches and so it was like you should be eating this every day that like we sat down this amount of calories this exactly what a meal is portion control because you don't i mean growing up in a black family you don't know nothing about portion control it was like you eat what's on your plate everything that's on your plate you eat when you're hungry well not in my house no you eat when they say it's time for you to eat you just open the fridge and be like i'm taking these of these six things yeah no you ate when they said you can eat it's not time for dinner mom i'm hungry dinner's not ready i'll let you know when it's ready go back to your room oh wow or mom i'm hungry eat an apple you guys really

did grow up bad have some water i don't want water it tastes weird yeah i always think you thirsty want water but you ain't thirsty um but yeah and then my grandmother when she had me when i was younger like she watched me when my parents worked and so she would cook whatever and it was not catered to a kid it was grown-ass people food and i had to eat everything on my plate and so she taught me how to overeat what's grown-ass people food oh man liver and lima beans gravy onions yeah i grew up like that too yeah um you know of course lima beans with all types of pork meat in it gross chicken gizzards fried chicken yes i used to eat that too yeah just ham huh oh yeah my mother would make gizzard and we never ate it's chewy i gotta eat it what is a gizzard it's

the inside it's the internal organs of an animal inside but like the butthole like what's the no no it's like it's like the tissues like the fatty like not fatty it's like the liver oh my god i haven't seen like these hurt in years kidneys i'm so lucky yeah and they fry it real hard yeah yeah um you know so like southern the southern southern diet so you know growing up like that and not knowing portion controls when i got to college i had to like relearn all that stuff yep and then even then I was working out a lot and I was probably in the best shape of my life but I was also eating a lot and so when I stopped playing basketball after my sophomore year I'm still eating like I'm burning all these calories and I was eating a lot of fucking food

and then I gained probably like like 60 pounds in like my junior year and I remember why did you retire as a sophomore I stopped playing basketball because it was division three I knew I didn't want to like go I wasn't good enough to go far I was just doing it so I had an extracurricular activity also what as far as a female basketball player wmba or playing overseas and i was like i don't want to do any of that no i'm not interested and i knew that i wanted to do journalism so i also realized that my schedule i needed to stop playing basketball so that i can internship because a lot of my friends did not get to do internships and then when they graduated it was like hard for them to get jobs because they had no like work experience so i'm i'm very very very

very very calculated so i was like i'm gonna do this to get here and then once i get to this point i'm gonna do what i need to do because i want to do something else so i was like i had the best of both worlds i played basketball for two years in college a lot of those girls are still my friends to this day we do christmas and see each other and like alumni games and all that stuff and then i was like i gotta focus on my career and um and then once i got into journalism it was like just diet after diet oh in high school i did the weight loss pills and like you know that makes your heart speed up like a fedri and all the shit that they like take off the market yeah i remember that yeah you ordered them on tv yeah a bunch of pills yeah i did that did any of those did any of

these diets ever work no no they don't work none of them work none of them work don't none of them work they don't work because you are altering your natural lifestyle to accommodate this thing and that's the thing that gets you to lose weight it's not the thing it's like all the other shit it's like i'm about to start a diet so let me go buy groceries and food prep if you just did that then you would still lose the weight you wouldn't need the pills you wouldn't need the

you wouldn't need the the powder you wouldn't need the shake you would just be eating in moderation anyway right and the shake wouldn't work

if you're not working out anyway yeah so you might as well just do all the other stuff without the shake and so I know a lot of times like people when they see like

the words fuck your diet they're like oh she's telling us not to give a fuck about it and it's like no I'm not doing that and then this week the whole thing with Lizzo

and Jillian Michaels like that became a thing oh yeah let's chat about that what happened with Well, Jillian Michaels was on this talk show. She was on AM2DM, the BuzzFeed Twitter show. And somehow Lizzo came up and she was like, well, are we, you know, why are we celebrating her body?

You know, who's like, what are we going to do when she gets diabetes? And it's just like, we got to stop trying to police fat bodies. Like, we know she's a big girl and that's a part of what she, why she is the artist that she is. It's her experience. And you don't really give a fuck about her having diabetes. You just want to fat shame her. Because if you care about everybody having diabetes And you be standing outside of Dunkin Donuts

Being like shut this shit down We don't need fucking donuts every fucking day And skinny people have diabetes too It's called type A You came in real hot right there It's called hot type It's called type the skinny type I feel like people throw around

The words fat shaming Too much We're not shaming y'all for being big Some people are unhealthy but that's the thing it's if you're worried about the health issue of of people in general not just bigger people and i think that that's what i tackle a lot is that there's so many social and political things that influence how we eat in this country that affects all of us not just fat people so if you're worried about the quality of someone's diet then you need to uphold that

standard when you talk about corporate america who's putting all this bullshit in our food yep So you can't be mad at me that my body reacts to this shit differently than your body. That's really what it is. It's like my body handles this shit differently than your body. And we both could eat the same thing all the time. And I'm saying exercise eliminated. Like if we just had the same diet, you and I would still have different bodies. Sure.

Because of just genetics and reactions to food. So a lot of times when we talk about like fat shaming and being healthy, it's like, do you understand? Does a person have the economics to buy organic food? Do they have a car to go to the supermarket in their neighborhood? Do they know anything about nutrition or portion control? It's like a lifetime of food lessons that need to be. It's a lot of factors. It's a lot of factors.

And I also think that when I say that we need to have body positivity, it's like we should embrace all types of bodies. But under no circumstances am I saying that that should dismiss the quality of one's health. I do think that people should be healthy. I know that I'm a healthy person and I don't have a flat stomach. So somebody can come at me and be like, well, just lose your gut because you'll be better. And I'm like, but I am in good shape. It's just that you are healthy. Yeah.

And I am healthy. But that's what I'm saying. Like the optics, we have to eliminate this tradition of like, well, if you don't have a six pack, then you doing something wrong. There's plenty of skinny people who are unhealthy in these United States. I, I too am a skinny, unhealthy person. I was very disappointed in the fact that you said you didn't drink water. I know.

Yeah, that's atrocious. But then you put it on your social media, and I was like, ooh, yikes. Well, I mean, but actually, no. Actually, a lot of people were in my DMs. It was like, thank you for posting that because it reminded me of how much water I don't drink. Yeah, but the fact that you need to be reminded to drink water from somebody's social media, problematic. No, what is that? No, that's not true.

There's a lot of things that social media can help that's positive. No, listen, I appreciate you for putting yourself out there. I'm just saying, as someone who knows you, the fact that you don't drink water. I'm saying it as somebody who drinks water and knows that you need water in your body. The fact that there are people who don't drink. Like, I met somebody recently who said she don't eat fruits or vegetables. She doesn't like them. And I was like, girl.

Her pussy got a stink like hot trash on a Tuesday. It probably, it smells like asparagus. It has to stink. Isn't that crazy? But how do you navigate life and not drink water? What is your aversion to it? the taste or you just don't have it in your daily like routine i think once you become like a chronic dehydrated person you don't crave water enough and so you just are able to function without

not drinking enough water but i've turning that around and i'm changing it but it's not about craving water right because people i don't think people because if you are thirsty you'll drink something right it's not about no it's not about craving the water i mean i for me i guess it's different because when i was a kid my mom in the morning first thing in the morning like after we brushed our teeth we would have a glass of water before we went to bed she'd make us drink a glass of water and i remember complaining oh i don't like the way it tastes like you know how you are now as an adult uh but now like i hardly ever have juice and i'd never have soda in my refrigerator Yeah, I don't drink soda.

And when juice is in my refrigerator, it stays in my fridge for weeks because I'll have like a little bit of juice and be like I drink a giant glass of water in the morning and I drink it every time I come in and out of my house. So it's not because you like the way it tastes. It's just, you know, it's a habit. It's a habit. It's a habit. And, you know, not everybody has great habits. And I'm I'm OK with saying that and then working on it. But the thing that I want to point out is that when you talk about like Lizzo and fat shaming and all that stuff, you're in a position to say that you don't drink water and you will be admired and revered for it.

No, there's people just like Marie that's like, oh, that's gross. But on the flip side, there are people like who Chloe's talking about. And I do think that if you were, say, a Lizzo and you said, I don't drink water, it would be like, oh, you're disgusting. It would be just a thing, much more negativity. I think I think people are like oh you don't drink water and you still look like this like get it together girl like take care of yourself and a very loving nice to you yeah they're nice to you about it but if it was someone who who they who could be viewed as undesirable saying the same thing they would be thrown under the bus and I think that has less to do about whether or

not you care about the person's health and how you react to how they look and so I think a lot of times when we talk about like fat shaming and body positivity it's like you don't like the way that person looks it doesn't matter what they do in their life you just have an aversion to how to look because they make you feel uncomfortable or they make you feel disgusted and so a lot of times we put that shame on someone who's just trying to live their life right but the flip side is is that if like um like more plus size girls are in like lingerie or in bikini or just like naked on the gram then it's like oh except your body but if you're a skinny girl doing that it's like oh look at that dot look oh she just wants attention blah blah blah so it's like

it's body shame in both ways oh yeah no i agree i just want us to stop trying to be doctors and figure out whether someone's healthy or not because i think that's a personal conversation to me i agree to me it's the same thing as someone saying like when you're gonna have a kid when it's like that's none of your fucking business to me it's just like certain things are personal conversations and i don't think that you should project you know or try to like intrude in someone's life and when it comes to like the whole diet industry it's like it's all bullshit it's just all bullshit i mean those people are always going to exist though you know what i mean like there's always going to be somebody who has an opinion about the lifestyle that you live

or you know what you eat or how you dress or of course you know what i mean and and especially as women they love policing what we do with black women especially what we do with our hair like the way that people reacted to me and are still reacting to me when i shaved my head it's like sis it's none of your business this doesn't affect you but like you know what i mean like people i have an aunt every time i speak to her on the phone she's like this is that you gotta get a boyfriend so you can get married and have some babies i'm like none of your children are married they're all older than i am and like this is it's a every single time we speak she's like you gotta you need a boyfriend so you can have a baby and yeah i mean that's a very traditional viewpoint

it's like you're not you're not whole until you have a partner and it's just like that's not how women operate these days but i also think when it comes to black women's bodies everybody feels like they have a say and that goes you know all the way back to like you know venus hottentot which is like you know a south african woman who had a really big butt big butt and they like paraded her around and put her in a circus and she died penniless because her body wasn't her own and and if you paid extra money you could like poke her with a stick and she would be naked in this like circus exhibit yeah and so i think that's like symbolic of how people feel like they have ownership when it comes to our bodies it's like they feel like they should be able to comment

and say or touch our hair or smack our butt or criticize our outfit because they feel like we are theirs you know they either they they admire us from afar they wish they were us like all these white women talking about Lizzo this is her spirit animal it's like what the fuck are you talking about you want to be a big black woman walking around no you just want to be able to carry yourself in the manner that she does but they don't realize that her carrying herself that way is after years of being overlooked and you have to build yourself up and hype yourself up and that's what black girl magic is about is like i gotta i gotta tell myself this affirmation because nobody else is gonna fucking tell me this shit yeah and then when you say it yeah and we're like what about

you know beige girl magic whatever the hell that is yeah but they don't realize that our like our flyness is our defense mechanism yeah it's not we don't wake up and be like i'm gonna be fly it's like yo i have to make myself feel that i'm gonna be fly because nobody else is gonna fucking tell me this shit and then they buy into it like oh i wish i could do it's like no i have to do this like this is the only way i can cope in the world is if i tell myself that i'm enough that i love myself that my role i mean i am flat out so i'm also that part yeah but but you but if you put like this if you're if the world was your oyster you you wouldn't have to tell yourself these things because everybody else will be telling you these things sydney is that true yeah i mean look

at me i i feel like i'm ideally a good body type i have a great face i'm okay i'm talented i'm funny and i still get told no and i still have many issues and so like it doesn't matter about just because of who i am and what i look like i still have to deal with all of the issues as a black woman because i'm black but but because of how you look when you do speak about your issues and i may be wrong but are people like oh it's it's not that bad like do they try to minimize it because but look at all the other stuff that you have you're cute what do you mean you're depressed you're beautiful if i look like you i wouldn't be depressed uh i will say this on record uh black people tell me like what's the problem white people be like oh no i totally understand

yeah they it's more brown people of color telling me like it could be worse i mean you could be poor you could have no job but like it's not that bad like what do you mean you're depressed so but i feel like that's that's also that's because black folks again i think that kind of ties in with what chloe's saying though about us having to like build ourselves up because it because for us it's like well it could be worse like you could have this this is this like i i hear what you're saying i hear you sis but i i also hear you too chloe yeah and i think that that's just that's just how we've had to cope with life right it's not saying that your feelings aren't valid oh no no yeah no i mean and i know that they truly are valid but when you're presenting when you're presenting your

your life to someone whose shit is way fucked up they'll never step outside of themselves to acknowledge what your problem is because they're so worried about what their issues are so your shit seems minuscule right you know and so even when it comes to like food and diet it's like well i want to lose x amount of weight and someone's like well they're about to cut my foot off bitch so i wish i could just lose 10 pounds like like they like it's that there's no it's like not much sympathy and i think that that's something that we need to be like everybody everybody's physical body is different no one has the answers we don't know everybody's internal chemistry but i do think that when you're telling someone who you feel should look a certain way

what they should do we have to stop doing it yep yeah um okay well and i love that about your book that you you you give these like um antidotes about yourself but you also put in like the history behind like oh this is why this is happening because a lot of times people don't know so like i'll just give you some like really quick ones like okay so so um for example the reason why american children started to become obese in the 80s is because president ronald reagan cut the school lunch budget by 1.46 billion dollars and when he did that they relaxed all the restrictions and the quality control on meat okay so we blaming ronald mother effing yeah literally for everything yeah for everything the devil yeah yeah and so when they did that what

they did was they like instead of a burger being 80 beef it could be 50 beef because they were cutting the cost to make more profit and they started putting like tofu and soy and stuff in these burgers that kids ate and that's why kids started getting fat because now you're eating soy and filler instead of like quality foods same thing with um with high fructose corn syrup they started putting that in everything to cut costs because that's cheaper than like organic cane sugar when you think about isn't that crazy but that's what i'm saying like yeah the the stuff that that like people vote on and the stuff that the government did in this country 20 30 50 100 years ago affects us so like negatively right now even like chinese food the only reason why we have

chinese food in america the way that we do is because that was the only way for chinese immigrants to get to this country they had to work at a fine dining chinese establishment and get a work visa in order to enter this country because they were not allowed to migrate here and so like when you think about all of the things when it just like you're just looking on and go this is just pizza or this is just chinese food this is like there's so much other stuff when it like even history to it so much history to it and i think we don't really realize that like the diets and all this other things

it's just like it's a money making scheme and so like whenever you like fall like whenever you fall into like I'm about to do keto and it's like you gotta wear keto clothes

and a keto headband and get keto sneakers you got a keto book it's just like crazy so Khloe you obviously know what you're talking about cause you've been through

all the diets and you've given us all the research and everything also one fun chapter that's not really food related but it is about like self esteem and body

is like chapter 15 it's all about that's the chapter that I got open for I bookmarked it Get into it. Because, I mean, because we talking about all this stuff and giving all these facts, but the book is actually really funny.

I'm just going to read this one sentence and then we got to actually got to wrap it up. But it says, next time you're getting your back blown out, look back at that booty clapping and enjoy it. Sex is beautiful, even if you don't think your body is. Looking at the booty clapping behind you. Words by Khloe. There you go. F your diet.

The book is funny, friend. Yeah. I mean, I haven't read the whole thing because I don't have a copy of the book. I'm passing it. yeah um but i also purchased it purchased it purchased it on audiobooks because you don't buy stuff no no that's it was not true it was hard to say uh okay bitch um wow how do i get my money back um i purchased it on audiobooks as well thank you and i read it too so it'll be me yeah no no it's your voice on the audiobook yeah i did it oh wow it's fun come on voiceover work

um sydney do you have any other questions before before we do it well no i i just felt like this is obviously still a journey because you i don't know if you still talk about it but um plastic surgery like because you want to get yeah yeah i wouldn't i do want to get some stuff i know i was told that i can't get lipo what yeah i was told by i had a consultation with a plastic surgeon they said i can't get lipo because because i had i would have excess skin and then that would be another surgery. So if I wanted to get something, I would have to get like a tummy tuck.

But I don't know if I want to get a tummy tuck, especially now because I don't have children, but I may want to have kids. And so they explained that I could get a tummy tuck if, but I just wouldn't get my stomach muscles sewn up together. Cause that's how all those girls look like they have a corset. It's cause they get their muscles sewn together. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's a lot. It's just so crazy what we fucking do to ourselves. I know. And, and it's just like, and you know why, what makes me so upset is that you put all this time into just trying to feel better about yourself

and making your body look at least a little bit of the way you want it and then you still have fucking problems yeah you still are like oh i don't love myself enough yeah and even when it comes to plastic surgery it took me to this point to even be okay with even thinking about it because you know it's like well can i be woke and have plastic surgery am i still gonna be down for the cause am i a good sister like because we're taught that that's like that's that's white people shit you don't you know you don't you don't do that now because my surgery is more affordable more like what people are getting it done but then even when they first started getting it done you would talk about them like a dog you know so i just i just really had to come to terms with like what

i wanted for myself and i may get it i'm not i'm not sure but you know i mean if that makes you happy and you can afford it or somebody offers to pay for it then do it i'm not taking sugar that any money for no plastic surgery. Well, I'll slide the money to Lisa. I mean, if there's a sugar daddy

on the pod that would love to sponsor Khloe. You know who says that he pays for plastic surgery? Artie Fuqua. I said he has

a $20,000 limit and he'll pay for titties. Well, he need to pay for a new nose. Ooh! Yikes. Goddamn, Marie.

Yeah, damn. I'm going to say that he was joking. I don't want nobody looking up Artie Fuqua and being like, uh. Oh, I was thinking,

not him. I was thinking of Oh, you're talking about Artie Lang. Yeah, not the black one. Black Artie Lang. Oh, no, not him. I love him. He's Haitian.

That's your brother. Is he Haitian? Yes. I like him as a friend. Chloe, anything you want to leave us with before we go? Yes, please. Listen, I think the quest for perfection is overrated. Enjoy who you are because that makes you unique.

Please enjoy my book. Let me know what you think about it. Hit me up. Send me an email. And you can check me out. I'm going on tour. I will be in Philly at Uncle Bobby's bookstore. I'll be at DC Comedy Lob.

I'll be at Typewriter Dynasty in LA. Yes. And then I'm doing Sketch Fest. You guys will be there too. Yeah, next week. Just go. And in Boston and Vegas. So just go to F, the letter F, and then you are Y-O-U-R, diet, D-I-E-T, dot com.

And you can see all my dates. And let them follow you on Instagram because they do that. Yes. Chloe underscore Hilliard. H-I-L-L-I-A-R-D. Love it. List it. Need it.

so damn good I wish we could've got more in the book but you know Khloe knows what she's talking about sure did love it

list it need it want it thank you so much for being here friend thanks for having me I appreciate it shout out to you

and your future abs I know right I'm gonna try not to thought it too much you guys make sure that you rate

comment subscribe all that good stuff and yeah love yourself we'll see you soon bye friends

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