Middle-aged opinion - Am I the devil ,deadly mental illness?

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode today. We’re back on. Am I the devil with different stories that have been put into the Reddit thread . We hope you enjoy today’s episode....

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What do you think in that? I think, don't you think that girl has got everything. Right, come in, up, up. There you go. Lay down. That's it. That's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:00:18 We're all being uncomfortable. That's fine. You can come over this way. Yeah. Leave that face. Leave it, Baba. I have no idea. We've got to tell him what's been going on.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm having a breakdown. She's in a good moves. I haven't had no sleep. She got me that for my mother. her flavors we like to play it's all very relevant it's relevant and then she did something else that's disgusting
Starting point is 00:00:50 but I appreciate it oh I really make you happy yeah I knew you would be okay with it yeah but I that's all I got for you today I just don't have the energy you I'm tired I haven't slept but we
Starting point is 00:01:07 there's a reason of which we're not because we're already disgust it's not necessarily now. We're both working really hard on our next bits we've studying which is killing us because we're old. Yeah the one
Starting point is 00:01:24 I am on now and the way it's worded there are 32 lessons in this one thing and it's I haven't finished reading it I've now gone back and then trying to do that lesson with that really large bit of information
Starting point is 00:01:40 and then doing the next doing the next but there's 32 pieces to read. Yeah. Me, I've got to learn different pumps, different cylinders, different connections, different direct, indirect, your mum, solo panel, there's so many. And I'm just a bit like, so I did get the Tuesday tutor Luke to show us different cylinders
Starting point is 00:02:06 because visually it's good to see what's different. and they just pretty much look the same on the outside. It's the inside, but they will show us the inside in the exam, but it is still a bit of a head fuck. Yeah. And we're still learning cylinders that are no longer used today in case we ever come across them. So, which is unlikely, but you never know.
Starting point is 00:02:31 You never know. It may be like an old build. Exactly. Like you've gone in. And there's plenty of those still. Yeah, they've lived there 18 years and they've just sold their property. Yeah, there are plenty of them. still. Yeah, so I'm just a bit, I'm worn out. Yeah, I thought this, I thought this section would be done
Starting point is 00:02:47 and I'll be starting my new one this weekend and you're not. I've got to give it two weeks. I've got to. Yeah. Do you write up as you're going along then? I wasn't. I was just doing a solid read and then doing it and then I can just refer back because I can remember sort of the key points. But there's so, so much on this one. I've stopped halfway through, gone back,
Starting point is 00:03:17 and now trying to do it as I'm going through it. That's how I do work. I can't, not the work I've got now, that's different. Like, you have to learn a different way. But when I did do my care degree,
Starting point is 00:03:30 it was literally question, then answer, because I can't retain. And even then I'd have to go back and read because it's actually the way they word it more than anything else. Yeah. And that will catch you out. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So I'm trying this method for this particular part at the moment. Yeah, because it's such a big section. Good times. It is, yeah. I can't even cross my legs. I can't move today. Where do you want to be? I want to be at home in bed.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You are at home and you basically are in bed. Don't know what your problem is. Should we pack this off and snuggle and go and go? Oh, let's snuggle. Put the dog in the middle, and we give him tickles. Can you snuggles? Good, he shall kill. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I need to introduce, don't I? Yeah, but I've only got one. Yeah, you've got one. Yeah, you've got one week. I've got one left. One week left of school. Oh, yeah, which means I've got half term. I've got one week coming up,
Starting point is 00:04:36 which is wonderful, because I actually. actually I'm going to dedicate it to the hall. Okay. I mean, we're going to have to do... We'll do the podcast, but that's one day. But the rest of the time, I'm going to do the... I've got to do a 240 sand... No, a 40 sand followed by a 240 or the highest I've got,
Starting point is 00:04:51 which the less density. And then I'm going to varnish it. Nice. I know I need to choose what colour. I think it's going to be the top one of those two. The ashy one. But it won't be ashy because that hasn't... had a 240 sand.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's only ashy because it's like... No, I like both of them. I prefer the top because it's lighter. I like the dark, but I think that would be too much. Yeah. So, especially with all the doors and everything. The darker would work better if the space was wider. Yeah, and brighter.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah. There's no windows, is there? No. Right, anyway, hello everyone and welcome to middle-aged opinion. I'm your host Ellie. And I'm your host, Emily, and today we are looking at, am I the asshole? No, am I the devil? Oh, I've read the wrong bit, it's that underneath.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm, I'll be the devil. I thought I was on the point, then. Not us, maybe, but no, are we the devil? You'll never be on point, and that is part of the character that we love. I try my best. You did not say, I don't try. Zeus has just had his balls off yesterday, so he is here with us. Feeling sorry for himself.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah, but he's doing my nutting. He's very needy at the minute, and it's a lot. But it's not his fault. He's sore. You're a bobble. He got some butt. He got some butt. And he hasn't got anything on at the minute, so he's been watched like a hawk, but he's doing very well.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm going to kick us off. Give me the drugs. Yeah. Drugs. Drugs. Right. Am I the devil? So, as you all remember.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But these are stories from other Reddit threads that are passed over to Am I the Devil because their stories are deemed awful. Hence why I just said, I'm not. Yeah. So it's how can he even know what she wants? Okay. So this is from engagement rings. Okay. She told me what she wants.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I just should listen to her. I just didn't give a shit. So my girlfriend wears a lot of jewelry, none gold, none have diamonds. She has told me in no uncertain terms that she wants an engagement ring to be sterling silver and contain Jade. And she has said clearly that she doesn't care for diamonds. And I have found some awesome silver jade rings, which I believe she would absolutely love, and I absolutely love the price of these rings.
Starting point is 00:07:33 which is of course way lower than a gold diamond ring. But I just can't shake the feeling that if I open the box and put it on her finger and it's not a diamond, gold, I'm not doing enough. That somehow it's just going to be wrong. I don't really trust myself to know what she wants better than she does, but somehow I feel like it might be the right call to just trust tradition. Who isn't going to be happy getting a surprise diamond, right? So help me. Help me out here.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm leaning towards just not listening to her, but should I just get the cheaper ring? Still beautiful Jade silver ring. Put it on her finger, going through the ceremony and all that. And then a few years down the line, get her a better ring when we're up in a better fun. financial situation. If anyone has a trick to know what to do in this situation, please let
Starting point is 00:08:41 me know. What do you think? So how did that end up? Am I the devil? Because she's told him what she wants and he's questioning. He's deciding that he knows better than what she wants. So I think it's not that deep. I get what you're saying, but it is just another case of, I've told you what I want and you're not listening to me, which we can both relate to, right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like he needs to listen, go with it. And if a couple who's down the line, you're in a bit of a better position and you can afford something bigger and better.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And that she wants, why waste the money? I don't do it. I don't think, even in a better financial situation, she's told him she doesn't like it. Like I started off with a gold diamond ring I liked that back then but since then I don't really like gold jewellery anymore so do you know what I mean I now have a different ring
Starting point is 00:09:44 I do wear both but had I said this is what I want and he got me something different it's annoying so top comments I've gone back to the comments in Am I the devil she told you in no uncertain terms that she wants an engagement ring
Starting point is 00:10:00 to be sterling silver and contain Jade. Okay man, if anyone has a trick, let me know. Really want what she really wants, though. Let me know. She's told you what she wants. These are the comments.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah. I mean, I'm with the comments. I'm confused why he's making this a thing. He also comments, but there's a real risk that she might not have a fully formed sense of what she wants. Boy, get the phone.
Starting point is 00:10:31 all the way out of him. So it's not that deep, but it is just another case of... Maybe she's... That's how she feels about you and almost. Yeah, it's just like, listen, if someone's saying to you, this is what I like,
Starting point is 00:10:45 and that's all that she wears, why do something weird? I understand why it's in there because it is just another case of you're not fucking listening again. Oh, it just sounds a bit of crap. Yeah. But it's going to be their whole relationship.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. I thought you'd want it, but I told you I didn't. When have I ever? When have I ever? And then it will be you never communicate with me what you want. Yeah, because there's no point. I think the worst thing out of all of that, he actually says she specifically has stated, like, undeniably that is what she wants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:22 So if there was his use. Right. He just sounds like a plank, doesn't it? Yeah. So not that deep, but relevant. Go on. she's in her 30s okay
Starting point is 00:11:40 this is a bad thing I don't know but you're gonna talk and old oh I don't hang on she's like she almost wasn't in her 30s so it's come from am I the arse of for telling my mum
Starting point is 00:11:56 to return all my Christmas gifts okay let's find out I know this is I know all may sound Unstupid, juvenile, but please be kind, I, 30, female. Don't have the best relationship with my mum. We have always butted heads and while she has physically supported me,
Starting point is 00:12:23 she is emotionally neglectful. She will often dismiss my concerns, disrespect my boundaries or just completely disengage when I bring up frustration saying that I'm overreacting and change. changing the subject. It's all right. I filled it, now it's moved. Anyway, prior to Christmas, my mum asked me and my siblings what we'd like for Christmas. I only mentioned one thing, but later decided to send a list of a few other smaller items online, so she had some options.
Starting point is 00:13:02 The week of Christmas rolls around and we get into a few arguments. Each time I tried to remain calm and experience. why I'm upset, but she does her standard, passive aggressive, dismiss, minimise, disengage pattern. After some thought, I came back on Christmas Eve and calmly said, Mum, I want to say thank you for all the time and effort you put into get, to get me these gifts. However, because you often use these things, again, me when you get upset, I would rather you return all of the gifts. Understandably, my mum got upset and couldn't fathom why I wouldn't just open the gifts. She then asked for examples of when she's thrown things back in my face, not believing my claim.
Starting point is 00:14:04 While asking me repeatedly for a specific example, she angrily reminded me of how she went to therapy. went to therapy for me and paid over 2K for nothing. I noted that that right there was a specific example of her using what should have been a good thing against me. I have, I had requested she go. I stated again that while I appreciate the gesture of gifts, I would prefer she return them. She let it go. Since then, she has mentioned twice that the gifts are still here whenever you want them.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I reminded her of my decision and again asked her to return them. Today, she brought me a gift from a family friend and then tried to casually give, that casually also leave her gifts with me too. I asked her, what are those? She said, these are your gifts. I said, Mom, I've told you multiple times now to, please return the gifts. Please respect that. She walked away with the gifts, clearly annoyed with me. Shortly after, I sent her a text saying, I'm sorry I did say thank you for the effort and time
Starting point is 00:15:26 you put in, but I did ask you to return them. I would appreciate you not keep pushing the issue. Thank you. It's been nine hours and she has not responded. For additional backstory, she has a tendency of doing the issue. things to help us out but then later recantering and resenting her efforts. Another example, when something of mine fell from her mirror vanity and cracked the sink, I offered to pay for the sink replacement, but she refused and paid in full. Months later complaining that she had to pay dollars amount to prepare the sink due to my negligence. What was the title?
Starting point is 00:16:16 The title was, the initial, Can you need socks? Just go around the back. The initial was, Am I the Artipater to my mum about the Christmas to return on my Christmas gifts. But, I don't have to... Thank you for...
Starting point is 00:16:36 The, um, am I the devil was... She's in her thirties. I, this one's hard because I don't know because I think he's being really immature but at the same time if everything you do for someone they're throwing it in your face then I kind of get where he's coming from and you get to the point where you're like just like bother him. What are you laughing at? Yeah. What? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. What do you think? I'm exactly there. I think. I think. I think. Why was it put into, am I the devil?
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's like my first one a little bit of this one because I kind of get it because it's like, okay, so you're just going to match her energy with the same energy making you just as pathetic. I think that is what's going on here. And that's what I mean. So this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I'm like, I don't know, I can kind of see this from both perspectives because even I would get to the point where I'd be like, Don't fucking bother. If every time I do something, you're going to make me feel bad about that, then don't bother. But at the same time, I kind of see both. Yeah, I feel like I would have got to that point as well.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Because sometimes as a mum, you can testify to this. You're like, after everything I do for you, and then fucking list it off. Do you know what I mean? And it's not because you don't want to do those things or you're not happy to do those things. sometimes it's just pure frustration that you're like, come on now. Yeah. But I do think he's being pathetic, but I don't know, man. I feel like there's more to their relationship than justice, like right now.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. I do think both ends need to get a bit of a grip. Me, straight in the bin, mate. No worries. In the bin, moving on. What to the comment? To the comment. To the comment.
Starting point is 00:18:41 The comments are a bit... So the top one says, you have to wave through like 20 comments to get to the inevitable part where she had to move back in with her mum because of the rising cost of living. But that doesn't mean her mum supports her. She pays for everything except rent because, of course, I don't understand. Yeah, there's obviously, like I said, so there is more to the story. She's moved back home. I like how O.P. tries to casually slip in. She's living rent-free at the home's house. There you go.
Starting point is 00:19:25 There you go. I'm not seeing anything from O.P. No. But this is the other part to the story that I told you there was more to it because no way would they just move her over for nothing. So, okay, yeah. So people think she's being a little immature and selfish. So everyone's just like, O.P.'s a villain.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Blah, blah, blah, blah. But someone else has been like, also, Can mum actually be, get off? Get off, get off. I want to get off. Oh yeah. Also, can mum actually be a villain here? And this is an ESH situation.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But it sure is interesting how hard she works to keep everything mom supposedly does. that is so bad, super vague. Everyone sucks here. ESH. Oh. This is what I mean? Yeah, everyone does suck here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Like it could actually be a tired parent holding their adult child responsible and hoping they'll grow up. This is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like when you come, you can see like today, I'm fucking, I've had enough, yeah? And then what do I see on the counter, a takeaway container? thing was right fucking there, like, it's shit like that.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And then that is when I'll click. And then I'll be like, I fucking do everything. You do fucking nothing. And then I like list off their ages and the things I do. And I start, I'm like a crazy woman. And it's not because I want to be. It's just because I'm like, come on.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, I'm one person. And actually I do a lot of here. Like, you know, I bath the dog, right? And then I'm hoovering every 10 fucking minutes. And I'm just like, why, why even bother? Why even bother? And then we're like, where's the computer? I look under there?
Starting point is 00:21:19 I'm like, there's a whole dog underneath here. I'm just like, ah! Right. Ready? Yeah. Right. I am going to give you warning people that my Reddit once again removed my story. So I've had to find three different stories.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And good luck with that. Yeah, excuses. Right. My Gaines. Dash. Girlfriend's deadly mental illness. This is what it says in. I the Reddit?
Starting point is 00:21:46 No. What? Can you start again? Am I the devil? Right? It's been moved over. I have no idea why, yeah? And it says, my gains, girlfriend's deadly mental illness.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It's from true off my chest and the title is, I brought a scale and I'm hiding it from my girlfriend. That's why you're a scale? A scale that you stand on. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Okay. Right. I've been with my girlfriend for well over five years now and when we first started living together, she used to have a scale in her apartment that she would use to weigh herself multiple times a day. We eventually talked about it and she told me that she had an eating disorder which is why she tracked her weight and would get upset if she gained any. I only remember one time.
Starting point is 00:22:45 that she had lost 15 pounds in a span of a couple of weeks and she was excited about it and said that she felt so good. I decided that we would get rid of the scale when we moved in together and it's been that way for years. I've recently been trying to keep track of my gains from my fitness and it's hard to do so with no scale at home. I've always had to use my mum's or a friend's scale at their house. Now I have brought a scale and I'm hiding it so she doesn't use it because I know that she will fall back into the eating disorder. I joked about it saying that I would buy a scale and hide it from her and she said that she would find it,
Starting point is 00:23:35 not knowing that that's exactly what I've done. Now I feel kind of guilty about it. I'm going to go back because I want to know the comments. What do you think about that? I just think it's a little bit like hypocritical. I think it's hypocritical. I also think he's treading on thin ice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:05 But I think he sounds like a bit of a pratt. I don't have a prattie man. I do feel like, you know, it would be annoying to not be able to live your life in a way because of somebody else but these are the sacrifices we make, isn't it? Top comment in Am I the Devil? Don't like 99% of gyms have scales. He could go every morning and weigh himself there.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Just saying. Someone went bow to a shoot. He goes to the gym. Shut up. I just want to see if there's any, because I want to, you know, these aren't very deep, but I kind of get,
Starting point is 00:24:47 The only time I step on the scale, sorry, is people are arguing. The person proposing, he leaves it at a friend's house, is perfectly fine. What are you all arguing about? You don't have to weigh yourself every day. You can weigh yourself once a week and still keep... Yeah, he doesn't need the scales. No. I happen to agree.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And if it does set off her eating disorder again, he really can't even have a go at her because he didn't take that. He did that. He did that. Yeah, he did not take it into... consideration when getting them? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 He hasn't considered her. It's his need now. So now he's going to hide them. Yeah. What if he hid them and then found hers that she was hiding? And the legal mention sits. It's all going to kick off, isn't it? Yeah, but he would feel like,
Starting point is 00:25:40 he'd feel like he'd be angry. He'd be angry. So how is this any different? You're right. You are right. Yeah. He's playing with fire. He's a pratt.
Starting point is 00:25:49 He could. weigh himself at the gym. Yeah. He could weigh himself in a boots if he's from the UK. You don't. There's a weight of every day either. What are you going to see in a day? Oh, I had a shit today.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I could tell tomorrow. If I, if I weigh myself in the morning, eat breakfast, I'm like five pounds heavier. It's just the way the body works. Pathetic, mate. Go on. You can fuck off. Yeah, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And your mum. Fuck you. Fuck you. All right, so far we've had really prating men. Yeah. Nothing to do with how I feel. It's not because men are pissing me off. Yeah, or me.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Okay, am I the devil? Seven kids and no money. Mm-hmm. Come from, am I the asshole? For refusing to refund the money, my former sister-in-law sent me after I spent it on all of my kids. I'm going to need to listen to the story, but don't have seven kids if you can't afford seven kids.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But, you know, you don't know the circumstances. My wife and I have seven kids between us. Oh, between them. I have two with my late wife, 11 female and nine female. She has two with her ex-husband, 10 male and 9-mow. And we have three together, seven male, four female and two female. My late wife passed giving birth to my 9-year-old. Her sister still chose to be heavily involved with their life.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Fine, great. She lived out of state until very recently, so her involvement in their life was mostly FaceTime calls, visiting every one to two months, taking the girls for a month for a month every summer and providing financial support. Lovely. Before she moved out here, she sent me $600 to get the girl's good winter clothes. I chose to use it on all my kids. Everyone got a puffer jacket, two flee sweatshirts, a pair of boots and a pack of socks. It doesn't get that cold here. So it's really all they need.
Starting point is 00:28:17 When she found out I used the money on all of the kids and not just my older daughter. she demanded that I refund her, since that's not what the money was for. I refused, so she suddenly pulled all financial support. As a result of this, we had to move into an apartment. The kids had to stay home alone after school, and my oldest EpiPen expired. She never told us it was expired. After multiple CPS calls, my older daughter now lives with her aunt. I was venting to a friend about this situation and they're saying the whole thing is my fault
Starting point is 00:29:04 because I chose not to use the money the way I was told to. Then I refused to refund it when she told me to. My wife's friends are blaming her for the same reason. So I wanted to see if we were the assholes for using the money on all of our kids and not just refunding her when she demanded it. Just an edit. CPS didn't remove the kids. We decided to let the girls live with their aunt and uncle. This is a difficult one. Yeah, this is tricky.
Starting point is 00:29:45 He probably should have used the money for the girls as. he was asked to do. However, if all the children needed something as if I was an aunt and the others weren't biologically related to mine but were siblings of them, would I have
Starting point is 00:30:04 a problem with it? I don't know if I would. I don't know. It's not like he's had an affair and these are a fair children. She died. She died and he has got himself back together and he went and another relationship. However,
Starting point is 00:30:20 they have had, they've got four children, they've then gone on to have three more children, which I, you know, I don't please people on how they reproduce, but you have had three children and you were relying on somebody else financially to pick up where you can't afford to lay down for those kids, which again is unacceptable. It's a bit naughty.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It's not that I've got a problem that you use the money for all the kids because I think all the kids should have what they need. I've got a problem with that you, before you had the free kids, I'm assuming the financial situation wasn't great and you continue to have kids. And now you, and she's got financial. Now we have to move into an apartment. That's on you, Brough. They're your kids.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, I don't think the moving's got anything to do with it. No, but obviously he's blaming her. But had he just spent the money on the two girls, they would have been able to still continue with whatever, financial, you know, money they were getting, which again is not the auntie's responsibility. Listen, I don't know. It's lovely that she is doing it. This whole thing does not.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I don't blame the auntie and I kind of blame them a little bit. It's not that they spent the money on the kids. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about the whole situation here. Go on. You need to go back to Am I the devil? I find out of the devil. Oh, okay, it's literally, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I can go back to the actual main story. No, no, no, get the comments from, am I the devil? So the top one says, why can't I have no kids and free money? I think they've missed the point, but... Because I don't think that's what he was asking. I want to call bait, but this is why birth control, sex, ed,
Starting point is 00:32:17 and financial literacy are such important things. basically what I've said they've kind of put themselves in this situation yeah I don't think he's asking not to have the kids and he wants to know he's the arsehold
Starting point is 00:32:33 for sharing the money but he's the asshole for not being in a stable situation based on just the am I the asser for sharing that money between all my kids yeah but that I don't think that that in particular
Starting point is 00:32:48 makes you the arson. Oh, I know, I agree with you. It does not. Because I get that. You want all your kids to have the same. And your kids are seeing their elder to get all these lovely things. You don't want resentment amongst siblings. And why can't they share that money?
Starting point is 00:33:05 And if he's not actually doing it every single time, why could they not? But are you the asshole in relying financially on somebody else? when actually they're doing it out of the kindness rather than they have a liability to those children they don't. That's literally how I feel. Then that's all for you. Yeah, that's on you, brough.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh, and then we've surrendered them, blah, blah, blah. So basically the girls are now with their aunt and uncle, you're still not receiving financial support, but what are you doing to change your situation? Hopefully not having any more kids. Yeah. I think it's a shame the girls went to live with auntie but obviously
Starting point is 00:33:52 in some eye view is these two girls can go and be with auntie and have everything they want and there's no other siblings to share with yeah which again I think is sad because you're now separating the siblings so the girls are going to have one life
Starting point is 00:34:12 and the rest of the siblings are going to have another life and again it's going to cause resentment because the girls are fine right now but they're going to get to the point why did Dad let us go. The whole situation is really fucking sad actually. It is a proper sad. It is because actually they're kids involved.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah, and listen, it's nobody's fault what happened to... It's not his fault that his marriage did not break down. She passed away. Like, it's, you know, this is really fucking sad. But, I don't know, man. Right. Am I the devil? mental health is so bad I abuse her. What? Her mental health is so bad I abuse her. That is the title
Starting point is 00:34:54 and am I the devil. Now it's from true of my chest and it's called I told my wife she is not allowed to watch or read any news content anymore and everyone is losing it. Oh don't tell me you've deleted it. No. No. They've deleted it. I'm very sorry guys because I feel like that was going to be a really good one. If you reckon that's what happened to my other ones? Maybe. Right. Am I the devil?
Starting point is 00:35:29 My marriage is ending. My marriage is from true off my chest. My marriage is ending and I'm at a complete loss. It's long as well. Damn. Right. I don't even know where to start with this one. But I need an outlet.
Starting point is 00:35:45 so here I am. I, 41 male, and married to a wonderful person, 41 female, who is an amazing parent and an amazing friend. She's an amazing lover and companion too. We met in college, no, we met in college where she fell in love with me and it took me a while to realise that I loved her too. Once I got my head around and out of my arm, and got past my hang-ups, I finally married her. Since being married, I have made a lot of mistakes in the marriage, including very serious ones that perhaps should have ended the marriage a long time ago, but she stuck with me. This includes cheating on her early on, not being here for her when she got bad post-partum depression, not being there for her enough when she had miscarriages and a thousand other little things. I would do my best to tell her I loved her, but my actions spoke louder than my words.
Starting point is 00:36:58 At a certain point about three years ago, I had a bout of serious mental illness, hospitalised, Electro therapy meds made me draw and get lost on walks, the whole nine yards. She was there for me, she got a job so that our family could stay on our feet while I was out of work. She could have left me at that point, but she kept our family together. Through most of this, we have been going to marriage counselling. I found a marriage counsellor and he sucked. but still went, but she still went with me. She found a great marriage counsellor
Starting point is 00:37:42 and we have been going for the past few months and about a week and a half ago she just ran out of steam in our relationship. She said that she didn't think I ever loved her, not really, and that I loved her like a flea loves a dog. She's completely empty and has nothing left to give. So she doesn't want a divorce because she doesn't want to hurt the kids, but she made it clear if it weren't for them that we would be done.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Not that I blame her. I'm, I've cocked up royally. I've basically fucked the relationship every way you could do it. And short of physically and emotionally abusing her. What's even worse is that I've, don't know how to fix it. I have no capability. It's not about you. I hate that my best friend is hurting so badly, but I can't fix it because I am the problem. I can't just turn on the gas and win her back with a grand gesture because there needs to be a significant change, or rather
Starting point is 00:38:58 there needed to be a significant change. She deserves so much better. I'm in therapy for my I have been for years and I work and I'm with my therapist to find out what the Pacific change is but I don't know if I can salvage this relationship. I want to and I hope I'm not too chicken shit to make the changes needed for my best friend. Anyways, thanks for reading if you did. If you have someone in your life that you love, make sure that they know it. Okay. What do you think of that? Don't fucking side-eye knee. I'm not him.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'm a victim. And he is such a victim. I'm such a cunt, but yet someone please it's over me. I'm a victim. I'm a mixing. I'm a victim. I don't know how to stop being a pratt.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Listen, he has done everything. It's done everything. Everything. And she has got to the point. And she's like, you know what? I'm done. She's run out of steam. And I can't blame her.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And he's like, I don't know how to... I'm the victim. I'm the victim with my head. I don't want to lose that. No, I'm never. Right, top comment. As a child of parents who fought way too much, get a divorce. Get a divorce.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Do not use your children as an excuse to stay in a dog-shipped marriage because you will hate it and you will resent your children for it. I agree. I've said this all along. he's a piece of shit he ruined the marriage she's probably right he was like
Starting point is 00:40:42 she's obsessed with me she loves me she loves me I can do this this this this and this and this and she was like yeah yeah do it I'll take you back I'll take you back I take you back and then she's like
Starting point is 00:40:50 you know what you don't love me so I have to love myself yeah can't do this no more literally what's happened yeah and now you're crying like a bitch
Starting point is 00:40:58 yeah she's stuck by me because I got sick first one I'm gonna give it to he is the devil piece of shit He is the fucking devil mate And deserves everything
Starting point is 00:41:12 Good luck to her I hope she gets a divorce I hope she gets a happy ever after Because mate does that girl deserve it Yeah You take your kids and run Yeah He is a piece of shit
Starting point is 00:41:22 He finally got What he deserved And now he wants the boy Because he'll just be like I tried everything Take your phone I tried everything possible I can't
Starting point is 00:41:32 It's all her It's just with your mum It's her It wasn't me fucking fucking yeah why don't you read shit like that oh to get you well I to be fair I did just have to remind one didn't I quickly
Starting point is 00:41:51 am I the devil she isn't conventionally attractive oh here we go from his relationship is this from Brad Pitt this is from relationship advice not Brad Pitt then writing the story no Brad Pitt ain't like
Starting point is 00:42:08 all that in a bag of chips my point is he's going to be better than no pee yeah come from a relationship advice how do I 25 female tell my friend
Starting point is 00:42:21 24 male he can do much better than his girlfriend 26 feet this is a girl telling her male friend so you can do better so she's a picnic
Starting point is 00:42:33 yeah but you can do better look at me This could be all yours for the low low price of my soul. Let's find out. So I'm not sure if this is my place or not to say, but my friend just introduced his girlfriend to the group and she was not attractive at all by conventional standards.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I also know for a fact that's not his type. It's all about it. He does not like bigger girls at all. Oh, okay. Even my fiancé, 27 male, was surprised and agreed she wasn't on his level. So some background on my friendship. We went to middle school together and high school together. About a year ago, we recently reconnected because we live in the same apartment complex.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Neither one of us are from D.C. and actually are from way further away. So when we ran into each other, it was crazy. Anyway, we weren't close in middle school or high school. But during those years, he definitely was the loner kid. Wasn't really attractive, but since then he came into his own and he looks good. She's very opinionated. His body is amazing, but he still can't dress, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I love her. When my fiancé and I were talking about this, he thinks 24, he thinks male, as in what, her boyfriend? Yeah, yeah. Must still look at himself through his high school lens and think he's a loser still and doesn't realize he can get way more attractive girls now. my fiance think it's worth one or both of us having a conversation with him and just letting him know we like his girlfriend and if that's who you want to date then cool but if you want someone more attractive you can definitely get that i honestly don't know who they think they are i think get better friends mate yeah because your mates think they're really fucking special really really special you're not that special i'm here to tell you it's so rude mate because they don't fancy her you can't sit with us yeah it really is you can't sit with us what are they comments on
Starting point is 00:45:22 this it's kind of ironic that opi and her fiance i think that friend probably still sees himself through his high school lens when opi and her fiance both give off major peaked in high school vibes. Massively. Massively. Something replied to that. Oh, fuck off. They didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yeah, I was definitely getting the vibe that someone in that story was stuck in their high school way of thinking and it wasn't the friend. My friends have chosen their partners and never once have gone, you can do better because it's none of my business. and nor would I expect, okay, alright. Yeah, but that was different circumstances, to be fair to me. That was giving Craig Crane. And I was like, Craig Cray is different to judge upon than how someone looks or, yes.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah. Or dresses. But yeah, never once have I been like, you can't sit with us. Because that's really your type is your type and my type is my type. And I wouldn't expect anyone to have an opinion on my type of man either because that's none of your business. Unless he's giving, I'm going to beat her vibes, it's really none of your business. Yes. The amount of pure speculation they're using to draw these conclusions could win them a gold in medal gymnastics.
Starting point is 00:46:47 He's probably still looking at himself through his high school lens. He probably doesn't realize he can do better. He probably wants better but still thinks he's too much of a loser to do better. Not a single reference to a conversation they have had with them. him about any of that and it definitely better if they don't ever try yeah I'd be well pissed mate I'll be like look at your man jokes it's rude it's just so rude wow yeah right I'm gonna finish us off with one that I've randomly found so let's hope it's good um am I the arseller I keep saying that am I the devil she doesn't need me there from am I the arsehole
Starting point is 00:47:34 Am I the asshole for leaving during why my wife was in labour? Yeah, I know. That's what she was doing, babe. My wife went into labour around 6pm on Sunday. We were expecting twins. It quickly turned into a very painful process. She kept cutting off the blood pressure to my hand when she squeezed it and nearly sprained the shit out. The shit.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And nearly, hold on. And nearly, oh, she nearly sprayed me with shit and vomit. After 3 a.m., my dad calls. Oh, I cannot believe you've written that. After my, around 3 a.m., my dad calls. I work for my dad's company, and we had a presentation for clients Monday morning that I had to be ready for. No, you're not going to say that. My dad heard my wife was in labour, but told me he needs to.
Starting point is 00:48:34 me on the presentation. He said there was nothing that I could do to help my wife and the delivery and seeing the baby come out was overrated and people don't prepare you for how gross and gory it really is. He said he needed. Who are these fucking men? He said he needed me to rest up and make myself presentable for the presentation. My wife's labour was progressing very slowly and we were all certain that she would need forcips or other assistant to help deliver the babies. So I left her to it. I realised that I couldn't help her here and my dad was counting on me so I told her that I needed to leave. She started screaming at me loudly that a few nurses reached over to our room. I ended up doing that presentation with my clients and
Starting point is 00:49:34 things went well. I leave the office to see a text on my phone that said my wife delivered an hour ago at 10.30 a.m. and that they had to use four sips. I would have missed the meeting had I stayed my dad has given me everything he possibly could give me in life so I didn't want to let him down. Am I the asshole? I had responsibilities I had to take care of and one. One, my wife is still screaming at me saying that she was alone and that they destroyed her body. I am the only one who works and her mum herself said that she was emotional and overreacting. My wife even went as far as to say that her family would disown her if she left me or divorced me. but she doesn't consider me as a husband right now
Starting point is 00:50:36 and go fucking mate I feel like these are probably better than I found in the in the first place who are these people who are these people she'll be alright I need you more who the
Starting point is 00:50:54 who the fuck you know like are these people labour can like giving birth can actually kill you it's really fucking dangerous I don't really understand. There's nothing you can do for... No, there isn't, but do you know what? Being there is what you need.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You left her on her fucking own. Delivering twins. I am fucking disgusted. I am fuming. You're angry. I can hear it. I'm fucking so, I'm going to cry. I'm so angry with that.
Starting point is 00:51:27 If I was more mad, if I was that bird's mate, I'd be like, get rid of that. Get rid of that piece of shit. I would not. Who sent him? Congratulations you got. Who sent him now? I don't know. Because divorce that person as well.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. I wouldn't have told him. Top comment. She didn't need me. They use forcets. Yikes. Foress are really used due to the lack of training in it,
Starting point is 00:51:52 especially some places in the world. Vacuum extraction is more typically used now. So he abandoned her. during a very risky procedure that often causes trauma for the mother, but she didn't need him there. Edit to add, miss it, it was twins. Yeah, very low risk. People are going on and on about four things,
Starting point is 00:52:17 but I just, nah. I'd never forgive him. I would never forgive him. And I would tell that story on my children's birthday every year. Okay. I'm in early years. Sorry, I'm in my early 40s and was a four-sixth birth. I still have marks from it.
Starting point is 00:52:39 You should have seen the look on my OB's face when I asked about possible labour complications and mentioned it to her. She was like, they're barbaric. Her labour was a very painful process for him because his fingers were squeezed. This man is a bitch man. You know, I hadn't even moved on from that, but that is what we read first. He was crying because she squeezed his hand whilst in labour. See if you can find that violin, because he needs the violin now. We have to take it off the other bloke.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Honestly, it's well bad. I'm disgusted. Right. I'm fucking disgusted. I need a peace. I swear to God if my sons have a missus and leave her there, and leave her there, you'll be like divorce him. Divorce him.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Don't ever let him have anything to do with that. baby because who is he is a fucking stranger he's a stranger my dad's more important okay well go and fuck your dad then i'm sorry is that not your dad's grandchildren yeah but what can he do it's disgusting the whole thing's gross i'm you know these it what amazes me i think is there are still men being raised to be like women belong in the kitchen but also go out and earn a full wage like this is the mentality now of the men and it's fucking mental to me. I mean, why did he even take her into hospital?
Starting point is 00:54:07 She should have just done it at home. Yeah, like they used to. Why, why ain't she out home? Washing up while she's giving fucking bird. She was never going to give birth to them naturally, was she? Because they were stuck. No, she should be dead, basically. But it's okay, you go help your dad.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Go help your dad. Yeah, go and tend to the fucking farm. I'm, I'm, yeah. Right. Like, follow fucking just. Yeah, fuck you. Subscribe. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Don't tell me about shit like that again. I'm going to find them all. That's disgusting. Peace, bye. Bye.

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