Middle-aged opinion - Bridezilla guest list finalised

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

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What do you think in that? I think, what don't you think that girl is going to? It's great. Help me. I don't think you did it right. Help me. I was the edge. I actually want to cuddle you today.

Help me. Help me. I'm shy. You don't know what I'm doing. Right. Yeah, so we were talking at college and then they were like, Kieran and Luke went out of the weekend. I was like, me and Chaya and were like, that's rude. We weren't invited.

And then Kieran, who's 12, went, you're my student. And I went, I'm old enough to be your mother. I am 42 years old almost. Yeah. What have I done with the other phone? What other phone? The phone that we spent the whole day setting up this shit on. Did you leave it out there?

Come to me. Let me but my eye. To me. I'm all so check there what am I checking for the phone oh yeah you said that

if I can't find the phone it's not meant to happen that's what I'm saying oh no where is the phone have you hidden the phone oh no is in my pocket have you hidden it

for real have I hidden it? Why? Have I hidden it? Oh it's on try I put it back on charge Oh you're such a dude. Well it's old, didn't it?

I'm actually cold, I've put on the heating. Oh, have it? Yeah. I thought I'd be generous with my dollars. I told you I worked for it. We're entitled to a bit of heating. Oh, that's what I was telling you earlier, talking, because I just saw your Wi-Fi connect.

You're bitch. I've started taking these. I feel like you can see a difference in my face. I feel like my face looks younger. I feel like you always look younger, Yeah, but I feel like I look younger. Lungi. So this is like, you know, when you get older,

and you start to lose the eglacity, elasticity. Yeah, this gives you it back. I've heard of any of that. Well, this is what all the celebrities take, you know, when they have it put in them? Liposomal. I googled it all, but it's fine, it's safe.

Liposomone. Liposomol. Oh, ha, ho. Ha, ha. Okay. I take one a day. It's meant to make you feel more youthful than that. So I was like, okay, because I feel like I'm 700 years old.

Think clearly. It helps with your brain. Feel so old. Makes you think clear out. I looked at myself and thought, my boobs look really low down. Are they low down? I've got a little body anyway, so they're not, that is where they are. They look normal.

I don't know. I feel like they're really low. Mine, it's. the bra here and then out of the bra they're about here. I reckon I could hold a pencil, but not a table, not quite. Well, we know we can clipboard. They're not like if I see it like that, they're not touching there. No. Is what I'm saying. But I do. I reckon I could probably talk about it. I feel like my

my forehead looks more youthful this week as you looked at mine you know because you went you lifted your eyebrows and it fully connected so I was like oh yeah I'm on these tablets maybe you should get some hit hit nudge maybe that should have been the birthday present yeah bitch yeah I'll be honest with you I am feeling so I would I think because I'm learning and you're learning I think because we're doing all this and we are faulty and that is the truth. Who asked me at college the other day whether I was dried up or something. Sorry. What?

Whether it was funny. I can't remember the whole conversation. But basically I was like, no, I'm still viable for now. What are you inquiring? Yeah. Computer said no. No, it was just a funny conversation. I was like, no, I'm still viable.

Yeah. Oh, I know. Oh, I burnt myself on hot water bottle as well. Always. Again. Yeah, really bad then. Seconds. It's listed and everything. That's so bad. Look, you're putting too much water in those things.

No, it wasn't. I brought a new one because obviously the other one burst. And it literally, I got a long one. So I only put a little bit of water in, like what you do. And the whole, you've got to push the air out. That's what I did. That's what I did. But the thing flipped back and then landed on my hand.

That's what happened. It was just an accident. Wow. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. And then run it under for about two seconds. I should have run it under. I didn't think it would burn like that being my hands.

But that's healed now. That's been over a week. Fucking hell. I know. It was really bad. All of that's peeled off and then this is healing. And then every time at college, when I'm doing something, I keep walking it and digging it.

You don't realize how much you're telling. touch so many different surfaces and then when I was yeah when I was helping Harry with his stuff um getting wet kept getting knocked kept I was just like mate honestly yeah fuck this hand my strong hand you want some potato let me mix it that's yeah

oh have you been enjoying all the stuff I've been sending you I haven't watched the last lot What about that woman? Which one? Fuck sake We have to catch up Because I knew that she wasn't checking it I was checking

I checked a lot No she's lying And then there's like 12 She doesn't Is that 12 I haven't watched She doesn't love me No There was 29

I watched them all Oh look at this one Oh look at this one You are you born A hell is born 22 years old That man was 22 years old look 62 years old

yeah haven't watched that one this one was this funny I can't remember oh they're gangsters oh yeah I thought to show you that it's not that

they were cringy that's not so funny what was this one I never seen you looking so lovely as you did tonight oh that's what I knew what was this one what was this one

having a good day. Come on today's on today's episode of if I had to see it then I'm seeing it. Yeah, you didn't even open it. I love this girl. She makes me laugh.

This is someone's miscarriage to go. I'm not going to play where she eats it because I almost threw up. But yeah, apparently. No. Apparently. People do not need to know me. I'm telling them.

Apparently, somewhere in the world of dark web or whatever it is, You can buy people's miscarriages and eat them. I watched this one. That's so good. I can see it on the TV. Yeah, where is the woman?

It's true. It's really creeps me out so I send her to you. This was the makeup. There's something weird. I don't know if it's her teeth or her jaw. Her jaw. Or the fact that she thinks she needs. any good at makeup at all.

I like that she's got this whole persona of look at me. I don't. I don't think she's got special needs. I don't know. No, I think she's got special needs, which makes me a bitch. Taking the piss. I don't. I think she's taking a piss.

I hope she's taking the piss, because that's how I'm taking it. Okay. She's taking this. Her face disturbs me, like, that disgusting man. She's got a very square face, but she gives some... But it's her teeth. It's, she's got that, It looks like, I don't know, I'm judging.

She looks like she's got that giant syndrome type thing, that big square head man, I don't know his name. But you know who are they allowed to say that? Probably not. I'm not being unkind. I'm not trying to watch time. I'm just ignorant to these things. Oh, you look like you got giant syndrome.

Opposites are small. Because. But we'd be wrong. I wouldn't know what you mean as well. Is it real? Did I just make it up? No, it's a thing. What you're saying is that she has a tumour on her pituitary gland.

That's not why it said. That's literally giant syndrome. It's a tumour on the pituitary glands that increases the growth hormone where they don't stop growing. There's some scientific fact there. I can't confirm it's fact that Eddie told me it's so, must be true. It's true. Everyone and welcome to middle-aged opinion. I'm your host, Ellie.

And I'm your host, Emily. It's that time of year, people. Here we go for the next four months. I'm sorry, I work with kids. I can't help it. And then my room is boiling hot, and then I have to go and stand outside in the cold and the rain. I'm just telling them.

Hello, I'm Emily, your host, Emily. And I forgot what I'm doing. Can we start doing your one? Okay, yeah. Hello, everyone. And welcome, okay, take a breath. I'm ready. Hello, everyone.

and welcome to Middle-aged opinion. I'm your host, Ellie. And I'm your host, Emily. And today we are looking at, I forgot on what you just said. Your one. Bride Diller. Today we are looking at Bride Diller.

Fuck. Oh, you're waiting for me to say something else. What did I say? It's your one. I forgot. We'll do my one next time. I do have some very juicy stories, but we would do that on a different one.

I've only saved free. So if you've got the same, you have to. scroll on because I know you've got a hundred in there. You are very, yes. Yeah, you're all right. Per sumptuous to think that I might have done that.

I might have thought, no. One always does that. One needs only. Right, go on. One never does that. But anyways. Right, so Bright Zillers. Go.

Right, let's start. Let's start. I'm going with this one first, I think. Let me tell you, stop. Is my friend turning into a brideziller or am I being unsupportive? Have you got that? No. I don't.

It's opening. I'm expanding. Because these glasses aren't big enough. They're nice. They're nice. Did you get two pets? I got something quite similar to yours, but it's got like a gold arm. Nice.

But a black rim. um yeah my friend is getting married in barley next year and she's becoming a full blown bride zilla she sent out an insane wedding guide with dress codes for every single she's had a panic attack and thought i was like done a mother one for some reason i don't know why oh you're like i was like have i saved the right stuff i did that earlier i had to double check yeah okay uh with dress codes for every single event. Suggested activities we're apparently expected to attend and basically a full intinery controlling the entire week. Just press wait. Ah, the dress code section is where she really lost me. Specific colours for each event, certain styles of colouring, examples of what

jewellery would be on theme for the welcome dinner, a long, alone, no, alone, she wants everyone in traditional Balinese-inspired outfits that none of us own and would have to buy specifically for this one event. She's also been sending individual messages to people with suggestions for their looks, told us that that are her bride. that we should get a gold nose ring design that matches the wedding aesthetic. Insinuated to another friend, his shoes looked like it was gotten off and Alabama and gotten off of Alabama. I don't know what Alabama is. Do you?

No. And might not be good enough or appropriate for her event. it's like she Al-Abi Al-A-Baba which would be like an Aladdin shoes Al-A-Baba I don't know

and might not be appropriate for her event it's like she's trying to control every aspect of how guests look and behave the trip is already putting us out at least $3,000 minimum

for flight hotel and the planned activity now she expects us to basically buy an entirely new wardrobe. Yeah, she's going to lost their mind. Yeah. I mean, listen, you can tell your bridesmaids what to wear on your wedding day, but you cannot tell your whole guests what to wear and how to dress. She's going to lost her mind.

She's going to lost her mind. She's £3,000. And she wants to say you can and you can't. She should, l-l-l-l-l-l-ha. Is she suggesting that everybody gets their... their nose pierced. I don't know if she wants pierced, but she

definitely wants something on. She's gone and lost her mind. Yeah. Absolutely lost her mind. Could you imagine? Yeah. I would in, fuck her off and enjoy my holiday. Oh, top comment

is time to gratefully decline and tell her how much you'd love to support her as a guest. Yeah, it sounds like the guests are being told what to do and what to wear as well. Or better, yeah, decline to attend all together. This is nuts. It is nuts.

Three thousand pound, babe. I mean, yeah, I don't think I'd be impressed with any of that. Like I say, brides may dress fine, whatever, but hair, makeup, this, that and the other. You can't really tell people what to do. No. See, I got mad abroad. A couple of people said, is there an attire that you would prefer us to be in? Because obviously we were in Greece.

And I said absolutely not. Like, be comfortable. Yeah, well, that's what we said for our way. I don't think anybody else. You generally dress up for the day and that's all that I expected. Yeah. I mean, people wore like living shirts and shorts. Yeah.

It goes without saying no track suit bottoms and track suit top. But other than that, and even then, I mean, I might have cared back then, But now I wouldn't care. I mean, after there was the little kickoff, it was because of the bloody best man disappearing. We found him sitting in shorts, like his board shorts, and a vest top, do you know like that? Yeah, mate.

All that money. Mate, yeah. It's expensive. Weddings are expensive, especially when you paid and then everybody's, like, wearing the same attire, and then somebody just does whatever they want. Yeah.

we were literally like you know what you're here for a whole week like do whatever the fuck you want yeah a week but uh just this day this one day yeah you just just for photos until the photos are done yeah come the evening we don't give a shit yeah and you don't care off i mean i was on i did i did get a little bit bright dillery with keely because she burns and i'm like get out the sun and she was like i'm trying to enjoy my holiday well obviously she's got big rack isn't she she she wears straps yeah of course and i'm like her dress was strapless and like Get out the fucking son. And what did you say, leave me alive.

She was like, okay. Yeah, that's all I would have done, just taking it off and laid there. Because they're trapped this, weren't they? Yeah. I didn't have any of those requirements. I mean, we were in the UK, but I didn't. Only because she was burning, but she had like a cream dress. I'm like, you can't burn cream.

Cannot be a tomato in that dress. Not with a cream dress. Yeah, I mean, listen, I do feel like that it's not necessarily that person's character, I do feel like some people just generally lose their minds. Yeah, when they're getting, because they want this synthetic, ultimate perfection. Yeah, and weddings are definitely not perfection. Yeah. Right. Yeah, just hire people to come in and be perfection. It's not a bad idea to be fair. Right. Am I being a bride filler? Yes. My fiance and I

realised our guest list today. Let me, let me start again because I feel like that wasn't even English. Right. Am I being a bride seller? My fiance and I finalised our guest list today. There you go. We were keeping it smallish, about 80 people, 35 people on his side and 45 on mine, mostly all family. He said to his mum to ask about if there was anybody else that we had forgotten. And she insists on fighting, inviting, my goodness, more extended family, which is fine, and some of her friends and co-workers, who I have never met and my fiancee has not talked to in years. He told her that we were just going to invite people that we were close with. She got upset and said that she should be able to invite people to her son's wedding and implied that I am making

this decision, which isn't true at all. But my fiancé can be a pushover when it comes to her, so I think it surprised her when he stood his ground. It's not really about the money, but his parents, are contributing and my parents are contributing a similar amount and we're covering the rest but she's the only parent insisting inviting people who we don't know maybe this is more common than I realize so generally asking if I am being a bride siller if I am being a bride siller for not wanting people I don't know at my small wedding no no I don't think she is as well although it does feel like a very English thing to me. You know what I mean?

I think there are a lot of cultures that end up being a huge weddings because they literally invite your mum, dads, nans, dog, cat, friends, goldfish. You met once when you were never. One years old. Never, you know what. But my wedding, mom and dad's... had, they did have their friends, but friends that were a part of my life. Yeah.

And they, and obviously their family, so I'm not including the family, but mum and dad had their friends. And then Anne and Ken had their friends as well. And I found that all very bizarre. Because, yeah, it was all very, not so much, I feel like not so much my mum and dad's friends, because they were auntie uncle, whatever. And although Paul called them, aren't, listen, it's the same, whatever.

I just found it all a little bit weird, which meant that I couldn't have some of my friends from work to my daytime because we had all of them. Yeah, I hear that. So, because it was just getting out of hand. But whatever, listen, it was fine by me, got some nice checks out of it. Like, I really didn't care.

But I do feel like it is like a done thing. I feel like marriages, you kind of then extend to this. one extend to that one, extend to, you know what I mean? The co-workers, I don't really know why the mum needed her co-workers. No. I can understand the friends who you call Aunt Eunk or whatever, but... And it's difficult when they're contributing, right? Yeah, sure.

Sure, but... Like, why? Why did you keep doing that? I don't know. It's second time tonight, isn't it? Right. Yeah, no, I don't think she's been... No. I think she's better off staying out of it and letting her husband to be deal with that deal with that one um top comment not at all she is the crazy one stand your ground and make sure neither of you back down correct correct correct correct congratulations on almost being married almost i'm struggling tonight to read i'm just too tired oh god um yeah usually contribute

in parents get a set number of guests picks. So it is a dumb thing. It is often a percentage of total guest count with a wedding as small as yours. It would be around like two people each. You are definitely not a bride sealer. This is not to be something that you will fall out of or over. So, yeah, that would be really sad. This is what I'm saying, like, how big a deal do you make it?

Say, fine, you need to contribute for their meals. Thanks so much. Done. Yeah, but we are. And then she's like, every co-worker from the hospital that I work with, that's 372. And the past one that I used the work at, there's about 20 and there's going to come to come. They all need to come, put your hand in your pocket.

Like, that's the concern really, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it gets out of hand. It gets out of hand. And that's what I mean. But equally, those people are like, why are they saying yes to coming to Janet's daughter's wedding who, or son's wedding who, they probably only met once? Yes. When your son picked you up from work and they went high and they're there at your wedding. Why are they saying, yeah, we'll come to the wedding.

I don't know. People love a wedding. I'd say it's a wedding. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, I think, I'll say, yeah. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Weddings are great. It's a great day all round, isn't it? So, I mean, it's different. It's like when our children start to get married,

I feel like you're all being invited. But that's different because you're all called aunties. You're all aunties. They've all grown up with you. So that's a different. But then their misses might be like, who the fuck? Not your auntie day, are they?

And I'll be like, brough, and then that's it. Nobody's talking. And I ain't invited to the wedding. There'll be a whole beck and situation going on. wouldn't they? Let's quickly discuss that. Oh, we're though. Who side are you on?

Oh. I'm with Victoria, mate. I'm fit. He's a brat, do you know? I'm sort of swaying that way. Do you know how pity the British population is that we have now made Victoria Beckham, number one on the iTunes. Everybody's downloaded her. I'm a shitty song.

Really loving all the, uh, yes. The superimposed pictures of her at the wedding. Break dancing. The wedding. I love. I'm really enjoying this. The thing is, right, you know, yes, he had to grow up with social media, but this boy has not been abused.

Ring your neck in, mate. And get it together. Someone said, but there would have been a video. Like, I want to see the actual wedding video of her destroying this moment. So the DJ was on a talk show. So I see the clip. And apparently he's with greed that it happened. Right.

So he said that this, the one that was, right. Jennifer Lopez has two the twins with this bloke Mark whatever he was the one that went on stage and went can the most beautiful woman in the room come forward and then went

Victoria Beckham the bright ones have been like bitch right so Victoria's gone up and then this Mark bloke is like dance with your mum and it was some Latino song right and then he's like hold your mum's hips

I mean, the whole thing seems really fucking weird. And the DJ was like... Encouraging it. No, but the DJ was like, everybody was uncomfortable except whoever this fucking numpty is. Right. So it's not just... He was uncomfortable.

Victoria was uncomfortable. Everybody was uncomfortable. So why did he do it? I'd be like, no, I don't know. But these aren't like normal weddings, babe. These are like big affairs where Elton John is on the piano. Do you know what I mean? like these are not that would be amazing these are not normal people and the thing is right

I'd be more on his side if he wasn't such a he's being a bit of a drip about it he's being a bit of a drip he's not I hate that they've got solicitors involved or sent a letter through a solicitor I think that's bullshit who has the boy he has yeah that they are not to make any more contact obviously it will be taken further but she is a billionaireess the kid the girl the girl she is her family a billionaires

yeah I've heard lots of negative she was in Transformers the blonde one after the beautiful one although the girl is beautiful yes is that her yes she was a robot no she was

oh I know who it is yes yes yes yes she So because she changes her hair so much, even I didn't recognise her. But why does she hate them so much? Probably because they've got a nice reputation. Despite what they're trying to put on them. Listen, of course there's some conflict, but none of this had to be... You should have just let people speculate,

and now all you've done is turn the whole British public against you because she's basically royalty, isn't she, Victoria Becker? Well, they both are, aren't they? The beckons are the beckons. I've never understood this whole thing about David at all. Never. Never. I've never got it.

I've always like Victoria. I have. I know. Oh, I was Victoria. I know you were as well. We were Victoria. We were posh. Yeah, we were like, not very posh, is it?

But, you know. Well, I just didn't talk when I was doing it. I said, I can't think so I'm posh. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, as long as I don't talk, people would think I'm posh. But yeah, I just don't I just don't

It's just so stupid This is not an abused little boy Yeah get it together And yeah And apparently just while we're on this subject Her ex Partner before Brooklyn That's his name

Um Stop talking to his parents for 18 months Why they were together That's interesting I thought that was interesting as well That's interesting up, obviously he started to talk and repair his relationship with his family. Now, I found that very...

This is damaging, though, isn't it? Right. This is big. Because you want to start something. But I think they're going to be really forgiving with him. Of course they are. I would. David literally put out a statement after the whole crap was released by the...

I didn't realize they put out. He had... The only statement he put out, as far as I'm aware, is that you have to allow your children to make their own mistakes. Yes, I did hear that. Yeah, I did hear that. Do you know what? Fair play. Leave it there.

Yeah. And they have. They have. Because then I saw, because I follow her. How old is he? Who? Brooklyn. He's, he's in his 20s.

So old enough to no better. Yeah. And I get it. Like, I get the whole. He's released, is it a book? Like a cooking book or he's serious. Yes. But she advertised that for him.

Like, wow. Like, yeah. She's doing all the right things. You know what he's giving. Harry, Prince Harry. Yeah, I've seen a lot of this as well. It's giving Harry and Megan Markles. Yeah, we don't care.

We really don't care, yeah. He hasn't been brought up British, so he doesn't realize what a mistake he's made because we're only going to rip the piss out of you. That's just the way we work. And even me, I downloaded that terrible, terrible song as well because I was like, go Victoria. Do you know Baby Spice 10-50 this week?

Do you know we were born in the 1900s? What's wrong with you? I'm just telling you. Well, I was speaking to my son and he was like, where were you born? I was like, the 80s. He went, the 80s? I'm like, yeah, he's like, I thought you were born in the 90s.

I said, no, born in 80s, raised in the 90s, forgot the 2000s. Yes, we drunk that. Drunk that away. And here we are. Yeah. still trying to drink it away I just can't keep up anymore

I can't drink anyone I actually cannot keep up I can't drink anymore I do I mean I did I've still got the bottle of Fizz where I had one glass from Christmas in my fridge yeah but that becomes I can't

now will it now I've got my spoon in it oh does that make a difference yeah got a silver spoon in it I say silver I have no idea it gives the bubbles I don't know how don't know why it does oh whatever if it's working it's working

I still got the bailey's from Christmas in my fridge When I went with Adam Jen, I did I reckon open mine. How many did that? I had, I got two theirs and I had whatever he poured me, so whiskey, rum, whatever it was. Hit me straight off. I was like, he he. Then got there and I reckon I had three beers and I was happy.

I was like a chest shed cat. You know I go really happy, happy. And then we kept getting told off by Nikki. calf at the end because you're being really loud outside. Oh. Like little children, which just made it funny up. Yes. And then got back, your brother fell asleep like this on the chair.

Yeah. And then I was on the other sofa and Jeb was like, do you want me to get rid of him? I was like, no, he's fine. And then just passed out once I knew Alfie was home from work. Because I cannot do it. I'm going to go to bed with Jen. No, want him to be you've come later. No, you're like, why are you in my bed?

downstairs Adam? No, they are downstairs. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, go the way Adam. Oh, you know, I like the Tidion and the side side. Yeah, she's like, you sure? And I'm like, if anyone in the world, I'm happy to share room with, it's your brother. He's fine. He's my brother. He is completely safe. And she was like, yeah, no, of course. And I was like, yeah, but that's my point. Some people you're just completely fine with and you ain't, but, you can sleep soundly knowing that you're completely safe. And then Remloed next to him, and I was like, bitch. Favoritism.

Yeah, rude. Okay. Right. Went to a small village wedding on vacation. Nice. Someone proposed during the reception, and it split the couple. No, this is unacceptable behaviour straight off. I thought you about to say, no, I've got this one.

You, wait, I haven't read the story yet. You don't even need to read it. Let me discuss it. Oh, shit. I'm still not sure how I feel about this, so I figured I'd share it here. I'm currently on vacation and staying with my roommate in their hometown, a very small village where everyone knows everyone. While I was here, I got invited, as a plus one, to a local

wedding, super intimate, very traditional, lots of family, food and music. It honestly felt really special and personal. Everything was going great until the reception. I mean, that sounds lovely, it sounds amazing, especially when it's quiet and quiet. Yeah. During what was supposed to be a toast, one of the groom's friends suddenly turned into, turn it into a proposal to his girlfriend. No warning, no heads up to the couple. That's rude. It's unacceptable. Everyone froze for a second, then some people started clapping out of pure shock. The bride looked furious, yeah? Like, instantly stiff, whisper yelling to her sister. clearly trying not to lose it in front of everyone.

You could tell she felt like her moment had been hijacked. Later on, she actually stepped outside and didn't come back for a while. Here's where it gets messy. The groom was thrilled. Turns out the guy who proposed is his best friend since childhood. The group kept hugging him, laughing, saying how perfect it was and how it made. and how it made the day even more memorable. He genuinely didn't see the problem at all.

Meanwhile, the bride was clearly devastated. She later said the proposal ruined the wedding for her and that she felt completely disrespected. From what I overheard, they ended the night barely speaking. Now the whole village is divided. Some people think the bride is overreacting. Others think proposing at someone else's wedding. without permission is widely inappropriate, especially in such a small traditional setting.

I'm just sitting here wondering, how do you even come back from something like that on your wedding day? Was the proposal completely out of line? Was the groom wrong for being happy about it? Or is this one of those intent these impact disasters? Because from the outside, it felt like a joyful moment for one person that turned into a memory that bride might resent forever. Okay, so you already know that I think it's really tacky. And I'll tell you why. Right. Weddings generally cost hundreds to thousands of pounds, right? Yeah.

Depending on your budget. Now, at your wedding, you invite generally the people that mean the most to you. So why would somebody propose at your wedding when you've invited your people there to celebrate your moment? They're not going to have everybody there that is really tough for them. But you somehow want to take something from someone else who have spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on their one day because you only plan on getting married once right doesn't mean you will but that's the plan and then you're going to take that and make it about you i can't stand it even when people like yeah that sounds great you can definitely propose on my wedding day i find

it weird attention seeking behavior it's look at me be i don't like it i never enjoy those videos yeah perfect setting for somebody else it's not your setting it's not your setting it's so weird because even if, right, so say I'm getting married and then you were like, you're my sister and you're like, can I, can I propose my fiancee, for example, right? And I'm like, that sounds great. My husband's family are there. What does that mean to him? To them? Nothing. It's so weird, but it's so you ain't got a other party and it's, look at me. Yeah, all your people are already there, so it might as well. Yeah, but they're not all They are.

It's wrong. I don't like it. It is wrong. Yeah. It's like a proposal on someone's birthday as well. If you're out for their birthday. Yeah. So like you haven't actually done anything apart from giving a ring.

I think it's, I think it's cheap. Oh, sorry. You mean someone proposing to you on your birthday. Yeah, I put it in the same category. Do you? I don't think it says, that don't bother me. I don't look at it.

Or at Christmas. I hate that and all. Again, something that. doesn't bother me. I just think it's not like a cop out. You feel like it's a cop out. Massively and you're hijacking something else. How were you proposed to? I want to know. Guns for the heck. Right. So there was a romantic element. We went to Venice. Oh, nice. Yeah. And there's a hotel. I can't remember what it's called. Did you know? No. Okay. But there's a hotel on it's got on an island. I mean, it's phenomenal. It's beautiful. Did I know? No. Did I have any sort of inkling? Not an inkling, but we had months prior talked about it.

And that was only because he was like, I don't have babies. I was like, I haven't given marriage. Having babies out of woodlock like I ain't doing it. And he was like, oh, oh. And that's all, that's sort of where we were left it, leaving it like it was left. Yeah. So we went away because we went away a lot. Okay. Like it wasn't weird to have. gone. Okay. But where we stayed was just breathtaking. And obviously it was in Venice it was beautiful. There were so many places that could have set the scene for the most perfect

proposal and he proposed in a hot tub where he pulled the ring out of his shorts and went will you? And you said... I was like what? Are you proposing to me? He's like, yeah. I'm like, uh, can we wash that first? It was in a hot tub, but you're like, oh. Uh, and then I said yeah.

Completely not romantic at all. Far from. I said, yeah. And then later on, because, you know, I take time to process things. I'm like, there was so many opportunities. Opportunity. And it was so lacking interpacy and like romance and look where we are. So I'm not complaining.

Like I'm grateful and I'm happy. But I feel like you missed... I feel like you missed an opportunity, actually. Mine was very similar to yours. But then... But then... We were like on a boat because you have to ferry around.

He was on a boat and in the borat accent he started asking me, will you marry me? You'd be my wife, very nice. Everyone was like laughing and clapping because he got down on one knee in front. of these people but in that accent did you still have the ring on do you know like stop it because like this is also not it's this is intimate because these are strangers but this is not romantic

like you've missed the point so many red flags babe I should have seen it so Paul came in from a night shift and was like here babe gave me the ring because we talked about getting very before and I was like you have to oh and he was like oh didn't no one need nothing and was just like will you marry me and I was like absolutely and that is and then he went off to bed and I went to work and that is literally literally it so were there red flags oh they're red flags like fuck okay I've never I think because we've not really been very romantic I'm just even back then I'm just fine with yeah he will he did I had a very beautiful romantic wedding day and I you know I remember it fondly so I

suppose I got it then I probably I enjoyed my actual marriage my wedding because all my friends and family were there although I come to your party it went wrong I came to your party here yeah yeah yeah had a party here and that had a little bit of a rocky bit but it was all that it weren't me? Yeah, it was all right. But actually, we renewed our vows in Vegas. And that, for me, was brilliant. I loved that.

Because it was just the two of us. You were trying to save all the way back then as well, weren't you? That that was to save. Yeah. Because I had already found out about that. How many years had you been married about three, when it? Seven. Seven.

Seven. Yeah, seven. Seven. Yeah. Seven. So, and it was actually my, it was my 30th. We had to Vegas for that. We had spoken about renewing our vows because obviously we both believe in God.

So we said we're doing it in a church. Nothing dramatic, just, but then he had his stroke. And now we're 22 years. This year? This year. This year? 22 years. So kind of moved on from renewing.

I thought you're 23 this year. 22. We got married 2004. So, and, you know, it's funny because I was, when I was helping Harry around that family's house, and I was talking to him, so they've been married. I think they said 10 years or something like that. And I was like, it's funny because when you get in a relationship and you get married, you're like, oh, true love, true love.

But that is not what love is at all. Love really is facing hard times and getting through that as unscathed as you possibly. can and as structured and together as you possibly can. Yeah, the support. It's funny because, you know, because Harry was like, what are you saying? And I was, don't you love to ask? I was like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you go in with this idea that you're in some sort of fairy tale. And that's the truth. When in reality, marriage and love is so much deeper and hard work compared to any of that. And if you get through those things, without burning each other too badly and causing, you know, damage to your children along the way or anybody else, I believe that that is what real love looks like.

Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. But it's funny because I think the support in it is a real big key of it. Because actually, or even the example, like when things get hard or things change because they do. Of course. Constantly, constantly get hard, constantly get, like, things are changing, whether it's children or moving higher or jobs or then, you, yeah, exactly that. Things are always evolving. Yeah.

And if you are like, oh, don't want this anymore, you're no longer fighting for actually something that is meant so much you way back when. Yeah. Like, did it actually, how much did it actually mean to you? Like, what was it there? Was that more of a convenience? and now it's an inconvenient. Yeah, and sometimes it is an inconvenient. Sometimes it's hard.

But you're supposed to. Yeah. When it matters, when it is love, find a way to make that work together. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I mean. Like, you know, evolving, changing, whatever. Like, I'm now in a new direction.

And does that affect us? Sometimes, yeah. But we're working through that together. So, you know, I'm just, my point is, it's funny. When you think about love and you're starting love and whatever, and it's all romance and fairy tales, that's not, and you giddy and everything's excited. That's not actually what love is, but you don't realize.

It's a wonderful feeling. Yes, but actually that's infatuation, that's lust. Yes, it is. You know, excitement. But love, true love, really is walking together, sometimes stepping a, side and then coming back together even if you agree to disagree. Yeah. And it's weird that it's taken me 42 years to work that out.

But you didn't even read top comments. No, I've been doing. Oh, right. Yeah, we started. I feel like you need to do yours. Shit, we're going to run out of time. Right. I'm on the asshole.

You're not doing that. Am I the arseye? My star is. My star is bride's diller. Am I the arseal for telling my mum that she can't come wedding dress shopping. So I'm getting married next year. I feel like I'm bringing it really fast. No, you don't need to. You're all right. And I found a dress that I've fallen in love with. The issue is my mum teaches and she can only come up during half terms. However, she does only work three days a week.

She also lives over three hours away from me. The dress I have found is a further two hours away from my house. So I decided to take my maid of honour and with just me and her so we could go and see it together. As I didn't want her to come all the way up and drive another two hours if I didn't like the dress that I had seen. So I tried the dress on and I absolutely love it. I generally feel like this is the one, but I haven't told my mum that I have gone without her. Background. is that my mum wants to pay for the dress and she should be there for every appointment. Oh, okay. So I asked her to come up in February half term to see the dress.

However, there's some Pacific dates. Hold on. Pacific dates. It needs to be done with my dad who will come up with her. He works and can only take certain time off. I asked if she could come up on the trip. train by herself. She is refusing to do this. The dress I have found is discontinued and once it's been sold I will not be able to buy it again. So there is some time pressure on this. I called my mum to ask if she would reconsider the train but is outright refusing to come up other than

with my dad. I feel as though she is being really disrespectful because she is refusing to come up. to catch the train, but in March she is flying to Amsterdam for a weekend trip by herself. So she can get a plane and fly to a different country, but she can't get on the train. I asked my dad to speak to her, but my dad has said that my mum gets very stressed out travelling alone, even locally, but she can fly to Amsterdam. It literally makes no sense. In the end, I lost my patience, as I'm trying to organise my dad, my mum and my maid of honour all to see the dress, which is stressful. So I've told my mum that she can't come with me, and she clearly can't make the effort to come and see her daughter's wedding dress,

and she's being unresponsible. What do you think? Mum's being a bit of a bitch. Yeah, she's definitely not being the arse. I feel like mum needs to get grip. Why do you feel like she can go to Amsterdam and not up on the train? I don't know. It's feeling like a bit of resentment.

It don't feel right, does it? It don't feel right at all. I mean, she's going to come up with Dad and then what, then go with daughter without Dad. I'm assuming. I'm assuming. I mean, it's a five hours, right? It's going to take to see the dress. She's like, get the train, I'll drive the further two hours.

Top comment Sounds like a twop Yeah If you love the dress You should get it You try to include your mum And it is not working You shouldn't miss out on your dream dress

Because of this Your mum might not pay for the dress Because she was not able to approve it But if you can afford it Then purchase it on your own And do both of you a favour I agree I agree

Just crack on You try to include For some reason she's resisting But she's off to Amsterdam I mean that's the worst part That's weird It's so fucking weird Yeah she's like I can't possibly

I can't do you Via train But My Amsterdam's calling It's weird It's weird To dole- Is that my third Yeah

Fucking hell Finish us off Yeah yeah mum Mum's being a twat But I don't know why Yeah It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

And you would think that she'd be like, oh my God, I don't know, like, I'm coming. I feel really nervous. You've found something to me. I want to know about it. Yeah. Yeah.

Weird, man. Because I want to be present for every appointment. But yeah. You're saying you can't. Oh, well, okay, fine, mum, but this is the last time I'll be able to get the dress. Yeah, no, no, it's, uh, fucking hell.

Hang on, I'm trying. I don't want to read that one. It's too big. Go back. Go back. You know, mum's an awesome. I'm sorry. She's broken my computer again.

I haven't. It's buffering. They put in the new post outside. I'm assuming it's got something to do with that. She texts me upstairs and went, is your internet down? And I was like, no. She's like, why are you using it? Have you got a new code?

And I was like, No, she's like, it's been down since they put the new posting. I was like, you'll have to contact your provider. We had to move our cars and everything. It was a fucking nightmare. Oh, really? Yeah, we had to park a mouse where Monday. Right, why I, my,

why I, made of honour, didn't go to the wedding. Fair play. I was asked to be made of honour for a close friend and initially agreed. Over time, the role become far more intense and emotionally draining than I expected. The main issue centered around planning pre-wedding events. The bride had a very specific vision involving multiple activities and locations, a fairly large group, a tight budget and everything needing to remain a complete surprise. While I tried to balance logistics, costs and fairness for everyone involved,

my suggestions were often rejected indirectly and I was discouraged from discussing practical limitations directly with the bride. Whenever I tried to clarify boundaries or raise concerns, it was framed as me being difficult or unsupportive. Communication become constant, become across multiple group chats with an expectation of immediate replies at all hours. Oh, no. Sounds intense. Sounds like an office job. Other areas.

Area are. Other areas followed a similar pattern. I was told I had freedom to make decisions, but those decisions were frequently. Vetoed? Vetoed? Vetoed. What's vetoed? It's like, no, pass over. Never heard vetoed. You never heard vetoed? No. It's like when we were choosing a baby name, you can just say, if you don't like it, instead of getting in a row, just say veto. I don't understand that. Okay, fine. Quickly V-Oed after the fact. I was also asked to take on responsibilities that felt beyond the usual scope of the role, including coordinating other people's contributions and acting as if an intermediate

mediary, what intermediary for the bride? Intermediary, me, d'arie. I know what they mean. Oh, for the bride. As time went on, I experienced several social situations where I felt excluded or sidelined, followed by criticism when I pulled back slightly to get space. When I eventually stepped away from the group chats to think things through, messages were sent to me via third parties that felt hostile and accusationary. accusation. Yeah. I apologise for any hurt calls but was told I was

misrepresenting yeah representing events and being overly sensitive at that point I decided to step down as made of honour and not attend the wedding

as the situation was taking a serious toll on my mental health. I'm still sad about missing the wedding and the friendship as it once was, but staying involved didn't feel sustainable. We're stepping away the wrong decision. I think if you are doing anything with your friends, now they're not just your friends because you're her made of honour, which tells me that you're closer than friends and it's starting to feel like a job or sound like a job, then stepping away is the best thing you can do. Yeah, especially when actually what you're suggesting is being vetoed or whatever you said. Yeah, veto. I think as well,

if there's something, we've spoken about this before, like in our friendship, if you're pissing me off or you're expecting too much or I don't want to do something and I say to you, other than you respecting that, there is no other compromise and vice versa. And that really is what friendship is about. And if you can't say as a maid of honour, you're acting crazy, this is too much, this is how I'm being treated. Don't get me wrong. Like, I've been made of honour and for one of them, I won't name who, you know who I'm talking about. And there was a bridesmaid that was acting up and there was a lot going on behind the scenes that I did not bother the bride with. No. Because I'm, trying to make sure she's not stressed and everything is as smooth as possible.

But if something was too untowards and I say this is happening and she doesn't deal with that situation, then why am I your maid of honour in the first place? Yeah. And that's the difference between friends and friendship. So not the asshole. Top comment is, no, it was absolutely the right decision. I think the expectations of made of honours and bridesmaids have gotten way, way out of hand. OPA responded with, I wish I could go into details, but I don't want to give anything

away that she could recognise herself. But yes, it was way over the line. Yeah. Which is sad, isn't it? But that's what I'm saying to you, like, you know, if it gets to a point where it's become a job, what's the point? And the sad thing is that bride isn't even recognising, like my maid of honour has stepped away. My best mate, my whoever that person is. Maybe it's me. Hang on a minute. What's going on?

Yeah. What have I done? Yeah. Let's have a little rethink myself. But that's what I'm saying. Friendships should be like relationships like we've just discussed about relationships. It's a 200%. If your friendship is not, if you're not moving forward together, you know,

with being able to agree to disagree and talk to each other about difficult situations, then you're never going to reach how you're. long we've been friends or how long I've been mates with Jenna, you're never going to reach that because you're not putting in the work. Right? Yeah. So these conversations need to be had, but yeah, she's done the right thing. Right, my treacles. Oh my God, hang on, sorry. Go on. O.P. So someone has said about it, about the friendships. Don't treat friends like that, blah, blah, blah. That's pretty much what we just said. Opie replies to this one saying, I got a birthday card sent to my house eight months after the fallout. It read,

just writing to let you know, I couldn't care less about you have a nice life bitch. Do you know what the joke, I like it, and do you know why? Do you know what the joke is? She clearly cares. Otherwise, bitch wouldn't have sent her a card on her birthday, please.

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