Middle-aged opinion - Codependent in-laws

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Join us as we dive into the strange world of in-laws. Whether that be mother-in-law or some other in law why is the relationship between in-laws? Is So strained and weird? Come and join us for episode 15? We hope you’re enjoying this journey as much as we are..

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It still went black. Okay. You like that. Don't know what way this is supposed to go in. We're professionals. I mean it does feel weird this this bit I'm like hurrah don't know if this is getting tight at all. It takes a while, maybe tighten it up a little bit before you put it on. I don't know if you're going the wrong way or not. Let's have a look. Alright, alright. Is this going? Yeah. all right

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before you know it okay oh did you press play yes okay i hope so anyway i feel like i did i'm not getting cut up so we'll soon find out that's not the attitude is it i'm trying to move i literally just got it where i want it maybe we should stop podcasting and take up singing because that'd be hanging down yeah we just need to learn how to do that Yeah, we just need to learn how to do that. Sing?

Yeah. Fuck you. I'm a professional. You're a professional. Out of tune singer. Yeah. How do you know? No one does it finer. I should plug my knee in, shouldn't I?

What? Oh my God. Can you imagine the whole I? What? Oh, my God. Can you imagine the whole thing? You're like, I'm really quiet. I'm not fucking playing TV tickets. Although that was moving when I was talking, and it not really happening. We've got so many.

We've got 17 matcha days now. You're literally fully tuned in. Yes. What are we doing? Pay your revenge. Don't stiff a hungry fat man out of gravy. Yeah, fair play. Yeah.

Who's starting today? Me, you. See, I told you. I thought you fact i thought you really got into it got into everything already does it sell you does it sell you doesn't sell you anywhere does it send chivers chivers what is going on here we go now we're gonna i'm not gonna be able to talk today chivers down your spot we got chivers chivers um i love paranormal and then i was like all into the alien stories and then i was like some of them i was like you need to calm down brother it's beyond our soulism yeah maybe you do not fit the bill maybe throw that in with jenna

really upset she'd be like what the fuck you're you are a skeptic aren't you or do you believe in aliens yes i do believe in aliens right but i just find some of the stories just so far-fetched just out there and you're like like. Like they're doing it just to put a story out, like a storyteller. Yeah. And, like, you know the whole the government keep it secret shit? Why? Because no one actually cares. So why?

No one cares now, and that's why I think more and more stuff's coming out, right? Because, you know, they've now admitted to it. That's a true fact. The government have. They don't know what all this stuff is. But I think I'm all for Area 51 being, it is 51, isn't it? Area 51 being a fully, like, a site for it all. Yeah, why not?

Let people camp out in the middle of the desert. Who cares? But I do think, you know, sometimes I do think, have you heard of the new demon face thing? People are seeing demon faces. There's a reason why they're full of shit like that, you know that, right? Right. There is a reason. More and more people are having it and they're calling it some sort of condition.

What do you mean having it? I need to show you, so before we go into our thing. What do you mean having it? So a lot of people Know so a lot of people are starting to see Like they'd be walking down the street and then they see someone with a demon you send me something like that I think I did hold on Or did I just watch something that because you sent me something so to hide their identity or fill it out more while others believe that this may be part of the demon face syndrome that some are claiming to have witnessed people are being medicated for it

you're saying that all those people no no i'm saying i'm saying that people people are now going to the doctors more and more people because they're seeing because they're seeing it or they've got it they're seeing it so they're going down the street and some people look like demons or really evil. So they're going to the doctors and they're like, something's wrong with me. What? This man is really going through it. Not only was he recently diagnosed for having demon face syndrome, but every person that he sees looks like this. Imagine your vision is totally normal.

So it's happening more and more. Because some people believe the fail is becoming thin, hence all this stuff lately. The fail? The veil between reality and... I mean, it's like a whole thing. I don't believe all of it, but some of it makes sense to me. Because if you believe in good, you believe in evil, right?

Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, that's how it works. Up, how it works up down left right that's right and i i definitely believe there are like you know the exorcism and all that i saved a video for you yesterday thank you i did but i didn't want to send it to you because it was late and i was on my own and already sobbing that's what i'm saying so i don't always but listen these are true facts um and this is what i'm this is the kind of thing so aren't you know i love a horror right especially if it's based on real events creepy things that have happened on the set of horror films during the production of the exorcist not one not two but three people working on the film died this included a special effects

worker and a security guard as well as this the entire set burned down at one point and had to be completely rebuilt so many strange things kept happening eventually the director called for a priest to perform an actual exorcism on the 2005 filming of amityville horror ryan reynolds as well as multiple other cast members and crew Sorry. in that one at this hotel the radios and tvs continue to randomly turn on and play the pearl jam song alive it's happened so frequently and creeped out so many crew members the director ended up having to have all of the radios and tvs removed from the hotel creepy things that have happened so in the film the conjuring 2 no the conjuring the first one that they really used the one without none in it yes but don't watch those ones yeah so the first one that was released is based in america it's a house they

had five girls so one of the actresses the young girl she's very famous she's done loads of films don't remember her name she she developed a no i don't know anyone's name she developed a blood condition the whole time the film was going on where any mark and then she bruised all over um anyway as soon as the film stopped her body her hematoma went back to normal and then she was absolutely fine and because honestly if you're it's like you're welcome welcoming shit in isn't it? That's what I always say to you. That's why I don't get involved.

Yeah, that's what I mean. So watching it or whatever, but being fully involved and reconstructing shit like that, I think is quite dangerous. So, you know, I don't believe everything, but I definitely believe, I think it's naive to not think that aliens and that are real. We can't be the only things in the universe. That just doesn't any sense to me but um I believe in good I also believe in evil so I believe in those things I mean I definitely am open to things but sometimes I'm like I don't believe you like with a certain story do not mean you specifically the

in general yeah me when I read you maybe we might just throw a little couple just to win that especially that what that I was telling you about last night it was so I was like brother take your amitriptyline and go to bed yeah like I'm doing right now close your eyes relax right so shall i tell them all about what happened with the car maybe she should say hi no let's not say hi to anyone we're not ready to stay higher yeah uh anyway moving on so ellie smashed her car up yeah by accident i uh took a sharp turn and like hit a post and the car was fucked yeah i mean honestly i still can't believe i did that i can't believe you did that i can't believe you did that I can't believe I must

have slightly gone up on the curb and not felt it I mean from that picture did you the curb wasn't that I think it was low around it was low it was low but I also know I'm not the first did you see the post yeah and that many people have done it so it does make me feel better as I'm not the first did you see the post yeah and that many people have done it so it does make me feel better as i'm not the only fucking idiot loads of people have done it i feel like it it should be taller as well yeah it's really low when we heard the bang we couldn't see what happened it looked lower than like um it is pedestrian type post yeah it is it was just like listen either way it's my fault i fucking hit the post but my point is when i heard the bang the original bang before i ruined the back door of the car as well by reversing i probably should have gone forward shouldn't i i don't really know

i don't because i couldn't see what it was that's my point i couldn't see what had happened but it's done now and no one's angry with me and that but I'm also questioning on whether I should be driving at all you're fine you think so you've never done anything like that well no there you go so I'm like should I be driving yeah but just because I haven't done it doesn't mean that you should be driving. I mean the comfort of it is we went to, one year we went to Tenerife and Paul reversed into a bollard. I'd forgotten about that until he reminded me yesterday and I was like ahhh. But even though he just slated me, it's really bad driving. I was like thanks I know, I know. Proof comes out. Anyway shall shall I do my jigging ball?

Right. Hello everyone and welcome to Middle Age Opinion. I'm your host Ellie. And I'm Emily. And today we're going to look at mother-in-law. Yep. In-laws, isn't it? In-law scenarios. None of that seem good. Yeah, or rational in any way. Shape or form. Do you know what I love when you do the intro?

Your voice changes. What, do I go posh? Hello. Hello. Welcome to. Hello and welcome. And my face just goes. It's my phone voice.

It is my phone voice. We can see your face. What does my face do? Oh, hello. I go professional for about five minutes. Why do I have got a really squinty face? My eyes are really like slitty. You've got like cat eyes. Yeah I need to do the genetic test mate, I'm desperate to see. Yeah maybe we should all do it. I think we we should do it i think yeah we'll put it

in an episode so we decided who's starting we want to go rock paper scissors go one two three one two three oh you go okay it's me right let me click on it this is the one I am going with. It says, funny story about my codependent mother-in-law. Right. I basically... Did you find it funny, though? I didn't read it. Oh, sweet. I picked it purely because she states it's funny,

so we're going to either slate her because it's not funny... Yeah. ...or we're going to just go with it because... I feel like that... ...we've got a code that should be up, but it's, like, gone limp. Oh, this is something we suffer with, really, isn't it? Yeah. Listen, we've got new bits and bobs, yeah, and we don't know.

Any advice? Fancy. Yeah. Well, we're fancy, although we don't like it. I want a gold one. I want a gold one. We'd swap it. As well.

No, you're never having the gold one. Well, actually, we couldn't see see but i've taken off the mufflers and i don't know i mean to me the sound quality was no different with them on or off we'll have them off for now i think the mufflers are supposed to lessen i'm assuming when i breathe into the yeah because i do a lot of i can hear myself i'm really sorry about that everyone because that would annoy me I'd be like all right brother see yeah funny story about my co-dependent mother-in-law uh sharing this story to ven and spread some laughter sounds great a little bit of background. My husband is an only child and he's from a very small town

where his parents live in a house next door to the house his mother was born in. Oh, was born in. No, full stop. Sorry. It's not me. It's them. On the street named after his grandfather. Okay, my God, move on. When we're talking small town, we're talking just a family. Yeah, yeah. Everyone in this town is a relative, so it's a very close-minded community. Yeah, I'm thinking exactly what you're thinking. Is it in Bridge Switch? oh my god!

everyone's related though that's not nice so they own the whole town I mean it must be nice to grow up like that and then you want to actually grow up and be like what so what do you do leave the community find someone and bring them back to the community? Sounds like a cult. It sounds like an American horror. It does sound like an American horror. No disrespect, yeah, but it's just like so far we're a bit concerned. So I caused a little bit of a stir being from not just outside the country,

bit of a stir being from not just outside the country at the count kind of country but from the bay area ca and not sharing the same surname or bloodline or i've dealt with a lot of co-dependent ship between my husband and his mum and it can be a lot to bear at times. On to the specific funny story which I also think gives a glimpse into the type of woman I'm dealing with. I had just given birth to my son, the first grandchild on both sides that surprises me and sorry it's just an opinion and this was February 2022 so Covid measures were still very much a place of hospital at hospitals I was allowed one visitor per day so my mum came the day my son was born and brought balloons, flowers, a card, and my pregnancy craving, chocolate milk and cookies.

Nice. The next day, my mother-in-law came to visit. I was willing to forego my dad, brother, friends, etc., taking that place that day, etc taking that place that that day even though I think it should be more of a visit for the new mum who survived childbirth and not just a visit to the new baby you already know where I stand there yeah and she shows up with nothing in hand nothing in capital letters so and not even a kind word of congratulations. Right to wanting to hold her new grandchild. Right. Then. The nurse came to take my son for his circumcision and my mother-in-law says it's so funny how trends come and go you know when

my husband was born in 1987 circumcisions weren't very popular and I thought well I don't think that's true since every penis I've ever seen born around that time is circumcised. I don't know if that was appropriate. Don't even know what's happening right now. It's turning into a circumcision story. Anyway, PSA, I know this is not the norm in people outside the Jewish faith and the US, so don't come for me.

This story is still funny okay and she goes on to say that's why we didn't circumcise him in the hospital oh my god and I thought oh my god oh my god did they do some sort of an at-home, backward, witch doctor circumcision? Or, oh my God, did he get one later in life as an older child or, God forbid, an adult? And I've never heard of this story from him, so I'm genuinely confused and extremely curious. And so I say, oh, wow. So when did you get him circumcised then and she said he's not circumcised and I said um yes he is no he's not um with a smile awkwardly yes he is is, makes no change in expression, no he's not.

And that's where my brain just completely malfunctioned and crashed. I was speechless, like not only am I arguing with someone who doesn't remember the circumcision happening like fine? New mums forget a lot about these early days but you changed his diaper and bathed him for years after that, didn't you notice what it looked like? So it tells me that a she doesn't know what a circumcised penis v's uncircumcised penis looks like but b and more upsetting is that she believes that she knows what my husband's dick looks like better than i do woman i am his wife what is on? I know what it looks like. It's been in my mouth. What is she telling everyone? What is she telling everyone?

I promise you, you're wrong. And that was it. It still makes me laugh, but it also infuriates me because I would never think to argue with a wife about what her husband's dick looks like. I am so confused. The first comment is, it's been in my mouth. It's been in my mouth. I don't really understand how they're having an argument about the penis.

It might not look circumcised, but it sure tastes like it. Stop it! I don't know what you're reading to me! You should have come first! It tastes like it's got... there's no cheddar, no cheddar involved, it's just the cracker without the cheese. Sorry! So disgusting. Yeah. So they're Jewish, fine, and she doesn't know if her son's been circumcised. Well, I don't think she would have forgotten.

In-law is claiming son is not. Wife is claiming he actually is. Oh, my God. It's just a comment. You're so happy. Yes. I'm curious about what your husband says about this. I mean, you'd have to tell him, wouldn't you?

This story's golden. Your mum told me you're not circumcised. You want to talk about that? It's weird. Do you want to talk about that? I can't believe, of all the things that have been said in the story, that is her, I mean, she's happy about it. At least we know that. Oh, she's got one up on her mother-in-law.

Spilling her mouth. Sorry. It's brilliant. I really enjoyed that story. I know. It was a good story and i'm not really sure quite it's not the uh worst mother-in-law story i feel like it could be worse at first i was getting irritated she's like you know i think it should be about my family because i gave birth

and you know how i feel about that that's his baby as well right? But then it's switched to his dick, so I don't really know. I mean, honestly. I did not see it being about his dick. I don't think I could even have that conversation with my mum-in-law. I'd be like, er, brother, stop talking about his dick. But she's like, yes, it is, it's been in my mouth. Can you imagine it saying that to your mum-in-law? I know it is., it's been in my mouth. Can you imagine saying that to your mummy law? I know it is, it's actually been in my mouth.

I'm pretty sure. I feel like none of the ones I've got are as brilliant as that. Oh my gosh. Right, hold on. Now I've completely lost where I am. Are you ready? Or is there any other comments? No, no, no. That was the best comment. I don't think they could get any better than what those first two were. It tastes like it is. Right. Saw mother-in-law after two and a half years of no contact. Slightly comical.

It's nothing about dicks. Shame. I know. I've been no contact with mother-in-law for over two years because she threw a fit about me not acting right. I wasn't coding. C-O-D-D-I-N-G. Coding. Coding. Yeah, we don't know what that is. Codding. Codding. I don't know what that is. If it's coddling, it would be too clingy.

No, it would be the C-U. Yeah, right. So, unless you just spelt it wrong. Right, acting right. It wasn't coddling her enough. Yeah, I'm going to say it's meant to say coddling um I really enjoy my time away from her but my husband and I just had a baby and it was super important to him that his parents meet our son I obliged because it I know I had to move on with it I had to just pick it up because I was like

I had to move on because it just kept going like the uncircumcised peanuts yeah um I forgot where I was uh I obliged because it would be unfair to push him from his mother's to punish him for his mother's behaviour. Anyway, she spent a good chunk of my pregnancy asking my husband what we needed for the baby. My husband shared our registry link with her, told her various items we could use and let her know what size baby clothes would be best. and let her know what size baby clothes would be best. She asked him this question weekly and he always answered with specifics. So she met the baby this weekend when he was three weeks old and what did she end up getting him? One blanket and a ones, which is fine. I appreciate any gift. But with that, she's so obsessed with talking about buying us things if that's all she was going to get. Oh, but why is she so obsessed with talking about buying things if that's all she was going to get?

talking about buying things if that's all she was going to get she also brought us gifts that her friend got us and told random people i've never met got us things then she did how is that even funny i feel like i've just wasted it like a whole three minutes. Yeah. So basically, she don't like her mum-in-law and she's not happy with anything. So what, mum-in-law was basically like, tell me all the things you need, tell me all the things you need. Yeah, after two years of no contact. And didn't provide every single thing that was on their list. Yeah. You know, at the end of the day if you

it says slightly comical yeah i'm not feeling it i feel like i told you it was just a little bit of of a moan a moan yeah what was she she was expecting i mean listen there's a reason they're no contact, right? But I feel like this was like a waste of... Like, just give the woman a break. Yeah. Like, she showed up for whatever reason they haven't spoken for however long. Although Reddit seems to...

She still has showed up. Reddit seems to say, OP needs come first. Avoid conflict, don't be an arsehole. If only advice is to jump straight to no contact or divorce, your comment may be subject to rem... Oh, bore off. Yeah. congratulations on your baby. As for mothering, mind that. I'm very glad to hear don't eat it, it's not real. of your stainless steel spears. I don't get it. What? What is happening? Have I just read? I have no idea what you're reading anymore.

Yeah. We're moving on it says calm down op you'll get more gifts with each visit what wait i'm sorry i've just wasted everyone's time including mine right moving on yeah right so this one is really short i've got a feeling it's going to be similar to yours. I was going to say. Mine is, mother-in-law bought giant envelope of photos to our house of his previous marriage. Hattie. Out. Ready?

No. Out. Hattie, go later. Come on. Out. This way. Bed. Bed.

Come on. Good girl. Go to bed because of the wires. Good girl. There we go. Go. Bed. Come on. Good girl. Go to bed because of the wires. Good girl. There we go. Go. So mother-in-law bought giant envelope of photos to our house of his previous marriage. Saved this one. Had you? I think so. It's really short though. Yeah, go on. She just sold her house and was cleaning out her house. She came to town to celebrate our daughter's birthday. She had a huge manila, whatever, you know, big ones, full of photos. I said, oh what are these? She told me they were private and my husband could share them with me if he wanted.

She brought all the photos of his ex, the wedding, his prior marriage. Why? Baby boomers. She couldn't just keep them if she wanted them, but she had to bring this literal baggage to our home. We had zero storage in our tiny house and now we have this stupid thing to store. She is still in town. Should I say something? Have my husband say something? Why would she do this do i just trash them after she leaves we don't keep clutter and i'm a minimalist a what a minimalist you said it better the second time what do you think of that i think like there's no need for it it's a shitty thing to do isn't it yeah It's a shitty thing to do, isn't it?

Yeah. It's shitty. Yeah. But I don't think she should chuck it either. It's like a test. Just find somewhere to put it. I don't think I'd want him. No, I mean, I get it, but at the same time, I just like, I feel like, however pathetic, or let the husband deal with it.

Say to him, it's your, and bobs. You sort it. Yeah. So if you felt blur about them, and then you deal with it, and then you were cleaning out your house for whatever reason, and you found them, and you kept pictures of his ex-wife, what do you think of that? I don't think I'd be happy. I mean, I don't know.

Like, in one of my albums, there's a picture of Paul's ex-girlfriend. I mean, don't get me wrong. I think I've got pictures of... I don't care. Yeah. Yeah, but that's not his ex-wife. He didn't, like, marry this girl. No.

I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't think... You know, listen, sometimes things are done, but I don't know if I mean, I don't know. I don't think, you know, listen, sometimes things are done, but I don't know if everything needs to be burned. I think, like, the mother-in-law should either take it back or the husband should dispose. I think husbands say, like, mum, could maybe you hold on to him?

Like, I don't know what to do with him. Or chuck them. I mean, unless she's given them to him and been like, now you deal with it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Either way, this is for him to deal with. She doesn't need to get shitty about it.

It is a shitty thing, but it doesn't have to be. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, maybe that should have been a phone call. Hi, son, I found these pictures. Do you want them? What should I do with them? Because they are photos. They're part of your journey in life.

What do you want to do with them? Yeah, I mean I think it's odd behaviour, I think it is like a little bit of a fuck you but I don't know why. Like I've still got photos of his ex-wife because I loved her better. She was better than you. Hey son, do you remember her? But yeah, I think leave it to, I'd say to the husband what you're doing with them, I don't want them here so you either need to give them back to your mum or chuck and make a decision

What did really say? Yeah Yeah, that is it so the first one it says it doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to do doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to do though the private comment seemed over the top it's up to your husband what he does with them and someone commented off of it even though they are her copies good point yeah and he already has the copies at some point and he got rid of them before we met. These aren't some special originals. He has seen them, had them at one point and then got rid of them. She bought her copies to us to have at our house. house someone else says give them back it's it is his history and he has to do something with

i divorced after 30 years and still have the photos um again it's part of me relax he is married to you let him work it out that's what i said i think he should work this out i think she should step back and not be upset with it whether it was a little fuck you or not I think you can only let people get to you that's the decision you make and if that's what the mummy law is trying to do don't even be jealous I don't know if it was a an out of jealousy thing I don't think it was out of a why would you do that do that that's what I think as well when he's obviously in a new marriage with a child and obviously everyone has the past, but do we need to bring it up?

No. Does it need to be put in your face? No. Yeah. That's what I mean. I think it's more to do with the mum being a bit of a dickhead. Yeah, I do feel like there was a bit of... Malice.

Yeah. Yeah. There's shittiness in there. It's completely unnecessary yeah right go on have a better one well i hope so i don't know yeah i mean you'll do better sorry you're normally a good story yeah yeah i'm utterly sick of my mother-in-law's so fingers crossed um reference to emotion oh they go trigger warning reference to emotion out there you go trigger warning reference to emotional and physical abuse right so we've got a few acronyms

LTL and FTP for some context my mother was forced into an arranged marriage very young lt oh no you've done that one oh ltl okay um for context my mother was forced into an arranged marriage very young my bio dad was a piece of shit in every way you can imagine. Lot to learn. Lot to learn. Okay. I'm using Urban Dictionary just so you know. I used to idolise my mum,

but she was also extremely physically and emotionally abusive to me growing up. My maternal extended family was similar, very emotional and physically abusive with a range of other concerning issues. My maternal extended family was similar, very emotional and physically abusive with a range of other concerning issues and I've been no contact with my extended family since for over a decade since I was a teen. My mum and brother still keep in touch with the extended family and for the most part leave me out of it until now. Recently I got married, yay! Since the wedding my mum has been on my case to invite her side of the family to a reception style event my ILS in-laws are hosting next year. I've been very firm about saying no,'m not interested and she was told she told me several times I need to let go of the past and don't know and don't have hate in your heart also she also

let me know that several people from my extended family circle have sent me money tray gifts, monetary gifts, including a veil, JN grandparents, and a cousin who bullied me about my appearance to the point of me developing an eating disorder at 13. She mentioned this money last week and she also sent this guilt tripping message saying, if I choose to accept the money, then I should do the right thing and make sure to call these people to thank them. do the right thing and make sure to call these people to thank them. I blew up. I screamed at her. Then I asked about the time. Oh, then I asked her time and again to not talk to me about them. Then I, that I am dead to the extended family and vice versa, and that I am absolutely furious at the fact that she now, when I'm in my 30s, she can't be bothered to protect me from her awful family. I have said loudly and often that I would never take money from them as I would rather be dead in a ditch than give them

any hold over me or even the tiniest bit of connection to them. Note, over the years we've had several conversations when she has apologised for the way she behaved as a parent and told me if there's anything I can do tell her. Every single time she said that I've told her okay to the one thing I want to do is to stop talking about me, stop talking to me about the extended family. And she has not once respected my wishes in this regard. After the fairly, fairly, after the conversation, she asked me if I would be willing to go to family therapy. I said absolutely not and that she has proven time and time again that her love for me is always subject to defence to her family even though she openly admits she hates them. She will never be able to protect me from them and she will never love me enough to protect me. She will never love

me enough to do the one thing that I have asked. So now I am done. I have tried so hard to make her understand my point of view. I'm keeping my stepdad unblocked for now since he's lovely but my mum is on a possibly permanent time out. Sorry if this is conflicted, I'm a mess about this and my therapist is on vacation. Mum tried to push contact with abusive family after years of no contact by trying to bribe me with money. What do you reckon about that? I don't feel like that was about mum-in-law. No, but it's her extended family, so it's in the mum-in-law subreddit. I mean, it's bullshit, isn't it? The whole family's bullshit there's no respect anywhere and everyone feels like they all deserve it but yet

no one's giving it that's what I mean you think you can shove 20 quid in my hands and then we're all good I don't what I needed I feel like her mum is like trying to save face with the family, but it sounds like she was just as abusive. I mean, it sounds like she was getting it from everywhere. I'm assuming it's a girl. I mean, honestly. And she's trying to keep in contact with her mum,

but her mum is just pushing the boundaries constantly. Yeah, there's no respect. She's not listening. She's lucky that she's talking to her well op needs to come first avoid she doesn't think that yeah avoid at all costs it's one of those because they're your family you should speak to them and that's it like it doesn't matter yeah but sometimes you know that's what i'm saying like it sounds like the abuse the mental abuse anyway is still going on and she's it. Like, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but sometimes, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, it sounds like the abuse, the mental abuse anyway, is still going on and she's trying to manipulate and entice her in any way she can. And, yeah, I'd go no contact as well.

Because there comes a point, doesn't there, where you can't continue to be in the moment and she sounds like she's in this moment. I mean, you know, I'd go no contact as well. Because there comes a point, doesn't there, where you can't continue to be in the moment and she sounds like she's in this moment. I mean, you know, she just, she wanted to get married.

Now her in-laws, her new family, if you like, are doing this lovely thing and they're like, invite everyone, invite them, otherwise you're making me look bad shove your money up your ass and take a swivel yeah so that was an interesting story I feel sorry for her I think she needs to just stick with her gut instincts and be like you know I've got to do what's right for me. That's it, isn't it? At the end of the day, no one else is looking out for her. Exactly. It sounds like her new family might be and her husband, but her mum, I think her mum is just, it's like a show. Yeah.

That's what it feels like. Why would she invite people that have done nothing? I mean, not only were they abusive abusive they were both physically and mentally abusive and you don't know after all these years how they'd be anyway how do we know she's gonna have a nice experience with that no yeah and you know what like their voice might trigger her that's what I mean a movement or something like trigger so she doesn't need to be around that that's what I mean I mean she spent so long, like, healing herself, and now you want to take her back there, it's unacceptable.

No. Yep. So if this was, am I the arsehole, you're not the arsehole, but everyone else is. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay to say no to your family. Absolutely.

Sometimes you have to. Yes. Okay. Right. Mine is a, my mother-in-law one i feel like you should have saved the dick one too long i'm really sorry i didn't know they were all going to be depressing yeah i didn't know the first one was going to be a dick okay so to make everyone giggle i've got another one okay sweet it's got no dick in it though okay my mother-in-law who always complains about money got another animal perfect so you'd like an animal one winds me up when you talk about animal ones well because I only find the really cruel ones so it starts hey friends this is a story to make you laugh

and for content this is my mother-in-law. And she's actually added a Reddit link. Right. I'm not going to click on it right now, but I will after. Yeah. I'm not sure whether it may be mother-in-law's version. I don't know. We'll have a look in a minute.

Yeah. Might be a whole farm of animals. Right. A peach up. 27. So she goes on. She's awful, but one of the biggest things is that she is consistently complaining about not having enough money all the time. Making passive aggressive comments about where people go out to eat.

Mentioning where my husband and I go for trips. Telling her sister who's going on a lot of trips just want to let you know i can't bail you out if you run out of money uh says she never has enough money but always has to have the newest thing a a few examples, dropped 16,000 cash on an old arse Porsche by bidding on a bidding website because it was her dream car, but won't fix the ginormous crack on herv windshield because she can't afford it two years ago bought herself and her three sons all ps5s for christmas that's four so herself and her three sons and they were what were they four five five they were five yeah two. All of them were for Christmas. That was two grand. Yeah.

Just on that. Yeah. The list goes on, but the biggest grievance, dear reader, is the animals, and more specifically, the ducks. I've been looking at ducks. I'm thinking ducks in front of chickens. Why? They're dirty.

They're really dirty. That's why we didn't get one. What do you meanitting like they shit everywhere they so do chickens and then chickens are more clean trust me okay we'll talk about it after that's why we weren't allowed to go to school what about geese i think they're similar i know they're aggressive they are aggressive they're awesome they're like yeah that's why i want them anyway shush sorry you've got ducks in my hand i'm ducks the ducks yeah before i continue i'm going to try and continue anyway oh please you do it all the time they have an old dog with a lot of health issues and a cat they found abandoned also with health issues Both need expensive monthly medication. My BIL, which is brother-in-law, graduated high school during COVID and as penance she

let him buy whatever he wanted. Well he decided he wanted ducks with no research in a residential suburban neighbourhood. So they had to get two and then ultimately decided on three. And we thought, are we farm people? Do we know how to care for ducks no no we do not so we decide to keep them inside the house because poor ducks get cold this is weird but fine with three then we find out that one is male and we have all these eggs and decide let's incubate the eggs. So our ducks journey went from 3 to 34. Oh my god! We then decide to spend 15,000 on a duck pond in the backyard all while still being all the ducks inside at night because they don't like the dark and are cold. Did you all know ducks don't have a butthole?

What? They just let it rip. I'll let you imagine the state of the house. But they don't even clean up the bird shit around the house. It's not as easy as that. It just, they just, it's. Uh, brother. Ducks also die. Of course. It is a fact of life. They're all pretty, they are pretty weenie animals. After sending 25 ducks to a farm but keeping eight we start having duck health issues while still complaining about money and making rude comments to my husband before we cut off a

lot of contact my mother-in-law gets annual 1200 blood work on each duck. Oh, my God. And has gone countless times to the emergency vet for the ducks, paid for a duck autopsy on a duck, and spayed three ducks so they wouldn't have egg-laying issues. Thousands and thousands of dollars. I understand for a dog or a cat, but it's a duck. Oh, that's not kind. Yeah. Now, we are down to five ducks that still come in the house at night and we just found out that they found another stray cat and bought it

home so the other cat could have a friend. They are dog people, not cat people, so naturally the old cat hates the new one and thinks they've brought home their antichrist. Okay, looking forward to hearing how little money we have after all these vet bills. Hopefully my story made you laugh on monday morning it's not monday but whatever yeah um wow wow honestly i don't know why the ducks are in the house they should be in like a bird like a hot shell it's the same as chickens. It's the same. Like they're meant to live in like an enclosure.

I am shooketh. Shooketh. Why is she I mean honestly 1,000 a pet visit and then an autopsy. So someone's made a comment about how she is on a on a farm and they had ducks once but never ever again and they were outside right um although

they're cute they are the dirtiest grossest animals is what they're saying yeah um i didn't know that they went it goes on a bit but bit, but the OP responds with, so the ducks are in a puppy gate, and they put a washable mat on the floor under them to catch their grossness. But it still smells, and they get water everywhere. And their downstairs living room is right next to the kitchen dining room so the rare occasion we have dinner with them the ducks and the smell are right next to us it's literal hell i feel like you've put me off ducks now i mean i would say back and forwards on chickens i'd rather chickens i mean they do poo everywhere but at least

you can pick that up. It's like actual poo rather than liquid arse. Yeah, no one's really saying much about the money issues or anything, everyone's just like oh my god ducks are gross. That's literally everyone's comment. Anyone that's ever had ducks. Ducks inside the house, what the F. Yeah I don't really understand ever had that inside the house what the f yeah i don't really understand why you're inside the house but yeah i mean that is strange to let poultry in your house like it's a cat or a dog i mean you know i love cats i love all animals so i wouldn't be able to turn the cat away either i've already got four and i was all for ducks as well because at work i was just like yeah ducks let's get done and once i was informed and educated on it i was just like no ducks no ducks let them let them be at the park and we will get you i honestly had no idea

so liquid ass no i couldn't have that i wouldn't have it in my house either. No. No. No, I failed to see the funny side of it, but I wanted to chuckle more than I did. I think really her point is the mum-in-law creates her own problems and she's simply picking up after it. I get it. Do you know what I mean?

I mean, how did you go from three ducks to how many 34 35 34 yeah no that was excessive I mean honestly how thick have you got to be they're different colours as well like the male and the female like you can see what's what I mean honestly then just I didn't even know you could spray a duck no I didn't know that either really you must be able to well you're meant to just separate the flock unless you want baby chicks of course because that's the only way to fertilize the eggs it's just messy isn't it I mean that's the thing I was saying to you it's like um when I wanted you to chickens I was like would I be able to eat their eggs because because if I know the arse it's come out of that plays on my mind like it makes me feel a bit sick so at work we've got the big big girls

apparently we've got some new ones but I haven't met them yet plays on my mind like it makes me feel a bit sick so at work we've got the big big big girls apparently we've got some new ones but I haven't met them yet which are like a normal brown hen yeah yeah and we've got the new girls who are like we've got some fluffy head but they like disco ducks yeah I said chickens but yeah yeah yeah and then they've got like a it's got like a little ring around their feather like each individual feather with a dot in them so they're really pretty send me photos yeah they're really pretty have i met them i haven't met them yeah oh yeah yeah you're talking about the funky ones they're the girls that are laying eggs but their eggs are literally this big

the white ones the hens the hens are like normal size eggs and then their eggs are this big so we took a whole bunch home right and then you then, you know, it felt, I felt guilty. It felt like a baby. Yeah. A baby egg. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't ready because it couldn't pick enough. Even though your brain knows.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like a Haribo egg. Did you eat them all right? I didn't eat them. Right. One of the youngest ate it. He had an omelette.

And? Oh, he didn't care. Yeah. He was all right. But he was like, they've got eggs. I eat eggs all the time so it shouldn't bother me but I think it's like because I know the arse that came out of that is where my psychological things like yeah I'm the same yeah yeah but really I wish that I could be a bit more um because I do I want some sort of poultry we We go through over 20 eggs.

Say we click on the link. Oh, yeah, you click on the link. Yeah, we go through over 20 eggs a week in this house. Bear with people. Oh, it took me to another one about the same mum. Oh, okay. another one about the same mum oh okay so she doesn't want to celebrate mother's day even though it was an issue in the past yeah so it sounds like a bore off mother-in-law um a mum-in-law's got problems she likes a bit of drama she does yeah it sounds like she's got a lot of issues yeah but um yeah man do you own issues. Yeah. But, yeah, man.

Do you think I should get chickens? That's all that's in my head now. Chickens. Do you think I should get chickens? Yeah, I love chickens. I'm thinking, you know, down the side, like, by the hubris. Do you think your cats will be all right with the chickens, though? Yeah, so I researched this, because obviously Chris and Hayley got chickens.

So once they've reached maturity, cats are scared of them because they're big yeah but cupcake really it's not cupcake it's actually crispy the massive cat he's massive he's taken down a pigeon before he was very upset very upset but I think um the chickens will go through but they will be in a full proper enclosure. And then if they are out, it would be supervised, not in my lounge. Come on, chickens, two cats, five chickens and a dog. They do have a peddler chicken. Yeah. I mean, it's the only thing that's put me off.

So, because obviously if I'm going to do something, I need to research that animal. It's only right. to do something I need to research that that animal it's only right and um they get things like bramble foot and sometimes they get mites and that sort of thing and that really puts me off getting chickens but Hayley that expense isn't it really yeah well Hayley got her chickens so they are ex-battery farm chickens which I think is so lovely yeah so they need to be loved yeah so that's where all of her chickens have come from and i think that's a wonderful thing to do because obviously they stopped laying so they'd sell them because they're not meat chickens no i didn't even know there was a difference you've got meat chickens you've got laying chickens there's

all like the way that they do it and anyway so she's rescued these chickens and touch words no problems so you know a few have passed here and there but that's with age and whatnot yeah but anyway moving on from chickens like we've gone from a weird mum-in-law to i'm like very excited about chickens anyway uh again uh just know mum-in-law read it at my breaking point with my mother-in-law that threatened to kick me out again yeah i know it says advance just leave advice wanted yeah it's not that easy though babe another crazy person we're currently living together with just no mum-in-law and father-in-law it's been a few years now a few years years though can you imagine it's been a few years now the reason why we're doing doing it so yeah it's because this is the main family house and my husband and I are

waiting for our house to be fully built so they're building a house right just know mother-in-law higher high is a part-time cleaner to come over to the house to clean the toilets occasionally it isn't regular like every Wednesday or every other week and she always informs us quite last minute one to two days notice we're both like and yeah anyway just know mother-in-law also regularly cleans daily as a coping coping mechanism due to her personality disorder it's like i think yesterday when i when i got back um after hitting the fucking post thing fucking i had everything out it's like did the skating board down the toilet because that's how i build my anxiety so but anyway moving on and then like took an extra fucking amitriptyline

anyway i was like i'm not gonna sleep very well tonight but i did and then when i got up to feed the cats this morning um it popped in my mind amit a triptyl in anyway I was like I'm not gonna sleep very well tonight but I did and then when I got up to feed the cats this morning and it popped in my mind like what happened yesterday so that goes go back to sleep so then I think up to nine well she's a bit late today oh yeah ten minutes yeah not bad but I was like be late be late yeah anyway I get so excited right on the other hand I work irregular hours and sometimes would be in sleeping because I worked last night before in that case the cleaner would not be able to clean my and my husband's room because i was

resting inside fair enough in the past there wasn't a problem if i was sleeping in the room and the room doesn't get cleaned because uh just no mother-in-law i don't know why she puts that on every sentence always cleans it it daily. Anyway, she might be irritated, but she has never picked a fight over it. I don't know why she got so upset over me needing to sleep in the morning. And she even, she even quarreled with my dear husband as i told him to inform her i would be sleeping in saying i should move out and go back with living to living at my mother's i just think she's had enough at this point the mummy law i think she's ocd yeah yeah it's yeah it's giving OCD yeah she's got and she's sick of people in her space yeah and here you are complaining of the free hospitality anyway let's read this

room before I fully judge but it's coming I knew she never liked me that's not what I was getting no that's I wasn't feeling that either I knew she never liked me there was various other incidents where she acted out of jealousy to how dear husband would treat me or how she never respected my boundaries how I am stealing her son away and always go through she always goes through my things or constantly criticizing my cooking etc but wanting to kick me out my husband was speechless speechless and very upset quickly walked away from her and didn't continue the conversation and I didn't even know how to respond I have been ignoring her attempts to talk to me after the incident.

The previous time she did other things similar to this was during COVID. Oh, when you're stuck in the house together 24-7. Literally. 2020. In my country, we had imposed a limit of how many visitors could visit in a day. She tried to use these excuses, saying that I would be causing an inconvenience

to people visiting because I was a visitor. And, yeah, I don't really understand what she means by that. And that means less people could visit the house so it would be better for everyone if i moved back to my parents so she was saying that she don't she's not part of the family lives there she was just a visitor staying there and actually she needed a leave so that she can have her people come visit her that's what she's saying i think it's well kind it's listen we do it at the end but i i've got a couple of go back and forth on there she pretended not to remember of she pretended to not remember of that incident today so naturally i fought to let it go and not hold grudges. It also happened

it also happened another time after Covid where I confronted her about using using the common toilet the yeah obviously everyone's toilet which in my view which is my view of the dining table what okay hold on if you're on a table it also happened another time after covid where i confronted her about using the common. I'm assuming it's opposite like a door opposite like this mine The common toilet which is in view of the dining table, so yes, yeah, yeah With the door open. Yeah. Yeah, so she had a piece with the door open Yeah that she's sharing Yeah in her own home yeah that she's sharing with these people yeah she's got guests yeah uh and she got upset with me saying how she is being controlled on how to behave in her own house

um no lie was spoken uh she then said she can't wait for me to move out, only for me, not dear husband, she only stopped after dear husband pointed out how disgusting and dirty it was to go about her business with the toilet door open, unless she had a shit, I mean then I'm going to have to agree with this bird, so here I am in the wee hours of the morning typing out because I don't know what to do. I don't know how to interact with her in the morning. How can I go about talking to someone who has constantly shown that she wants me out of her house? I know ignoring her will only make things worse, but I also can't bring myself to talk to her because all I feel is disgust. She is only nice to me when her mood allows it. If not, I'm her punch

and go bag. Should I confront her about this or let it's hard I mean she is a guest yes but equally she's there as family she's not there as a guest the same as the son is not there as a guest like that's yeah they are living so it's not fair that she's being told. No. That she's only guessing actually what she's doing is she's taking up space and maybe she needs to go. Yeah. Because ultimately, surely, she must realise then her son goes too.

Yes. Like, why would she want to upset the the the dynamics in that way the whole toilet thing is comical because actually why can't you go to toilet in your own home with it i mean i would have then going okay is that if that's how we pee yeah let's all do it yeah yeah it would then be like well good for the goose good for gander right yeah yeah yeah i mean we're assuming she was having a pee. I'm hoping it was only a pee. We're going to go with pee.

Because no one wants to watch anyone else. I'm literally going with pee, but just because she's a clean freak. I think so as well. Yeah. Yeah. So that I... Which also questions why she's doing that if she is a clean freak. Because her hygiene would have been all through the roof about,

oh, I don't... You know, you're just going for a quick pee, don't bother me. No, it doesn't. We've been in the stalls. Yeah, but... We do this. Yeah, we do.

We all go to, girls generally do go to the toilet together, and I'm like, bear with, I need a pee. But I think she has, like, OCD or something heightening this situation, feeling uncomfortable all the time, and she said it's how she relaxes and deals with her stuff so she must be how many years did you say three years i think it was three or two i can't remember was that the very beginning for a few years now that's what it says

it is a long time to have someone unless they unless they i mean why can't they take a break and go to her mum's for a little while? Just to take a break to give the mum a bit of peace and quiet, do you know what I mean? To let her go, yeah, no, I love them here, or no, that's not working. Because after a couple of years, I'd be like, brother, how's your house coming? Do they need some help? You know what I mean? We've just had houses put up in six months, so you know what I mean? We've just had houses put up in six months. So, you know what I mean?

I mean, it probably wouldn't hurt for them to go and have, like, a couple of weekends over at her parent's. That's what I'm saying. You know, your husband's got to go too. No, no, no. Yeah. Her being turned down and they've changed the locks. I think the whole circumstance of everyone getting on everyone's nerves is what's actually happening. And that's a real thing that happens yeah yeah even when you actually do live with them that's what i'm saying like it happens going out yeah yeah it happens with you know my family here that we are together it's just like

it's what happens but i think um i think compromise needs i'm not saying she's an arse or anything like that i think everything is heightened yeah i i don't get the vibe that mother-in-law hates her me neither that's not what i'm getting i'm getting she's fed up actually even even like the little oh i can't even think what it was the little meanness around the covid stuff where she's being told she's a guest that's exactly uncalled for yeah i don't think it was uh no i think she wanted to see other people and she's like are you still here brother oh no if you think since 2020 when was this it's only two days ago so it's 2020 they were living there through covid yeah so when did covid 2020

when that's four years she's saying a couple years brother you've been there four years it's time to help with the brickwork huh it's a long time that's what i'm saying like it years. Brother, you've been there four years. It's time to help with the brickwork. Huh? It's a long time. That's what I'm saying. It's like having an extra kid that's just not leaving home. I see from both points of view. I can well assume. And you know what? Actually, maybe mum-in-law just needs to leave that one bedroom alone.

Yeah. Do the rest of the house. Yeah. She should be needing to go in their room and clean for a month they're both adults they should be doing it themselves and contributing as much as they can i get it the mum's nitpicking but i think she's nitpicking because she's probably tired or that sort of person yeah i lived with my in-laws we lived with them for a month um and uh i felt uncomfortable like i was in fading their space not because

that's how they made me feel but that's how I felt so I generally worked 40 nowadays most days sometimes seven days a week so I'd come get up go to work come home maybe eat and then go straight to bed so i wasn't like and come the second month i was like yeah i can't do it so you know i felt uncomfortable i had father-in-law live with us for he was only meant to be visiting and he ended up being with us for four months he might be a little bit longer and do you like that you're still here brother but it got it got awkward because he was going to work going to the pub, and then we were phoning him to say dinner's ready,

and then he'd come home and eat and then slob out on the sofa. Do you know that? Yeah. I've been at work all day. He's been at work all day. Was that when you had the kids? No, no, no. No, before.

It was literally we got married, come home, and then he came to visit us because he didn't come to the wedding. Right. And then stayed. Yeah. And it was like, he's like, don't worry, I'm here now. got married come home and then he came to visit us because he didn't come to the wedding right and then stayed yeah and he's like don't worry I'm here now but he was lovely wasn't he it just gets too much it got a long time yeah because there wasn't I mean I don't know like I wonder how I'd be it just gets too much it got too much because there wasn't I mean I don't know I wonder how I'd be

if the girls if the boys sometimes they're like girls if the boys met someone and then they came to stay for a long time I'd probably be alright I think but that's the sort of person I am and because it's them I think it's different when it's your kids but after not a couple of years

four yeah we're talking four years yeah girl done maths and I'm not good at maths at all it's a long time I think that you're grating on each other yeah i'm not saying rent i'm saying it just happens yeah i mean that it four years is a long time a very long time i'm saying see if you can go to your mum's and just have a little bit of respite give everyone a little bit of risk i don't know why they haven't maybe there's a lot of space so right do you want to finish us off? Yeah, sure. Right, I've got one of two. Okay. I'm going to choose then. Yes.

So, I know that both has got an update. Okay. Okay. So, first one, my in-law wants us to evict our tenants so she can move in. Bitch is crazy. Yeah. And the other one is mother-son dance at my wedding. Only if his dad's dead, that's the only acceptance.

What, mother-son dance? Yeah. I mean, it's not a thing, but I don't mind it. It's normally father and daughter. Yeah, but I actually quite like that. That's quite sweet. So, you know, why should it be one for one and not the other but I want the other story so you're thinking mother-in-law yeah wants to evict the tenants yeah that's gonna get me more outraged than the because then I'll come from the middle point of view okay though just have a quick okay maybe let's look at the other one

and there is an update on that okay oh hang on where have i gone where have i gone do you get rid of the stories once you've read them though me neither no because i'm scared i'll find them again that's what i think yeah and then the reader will be like we did that last week babe. Oh look there's the update on that one. Uh there okay yeah it's that one. So the other one I do want the other one another time. Mother-son dance at my wedding. It should be our wedding. Anyway, yeah. I'm getting married next spring. Mother-in-law told me she wanted to have a woman on the internet write and record a custom song for her and my fiancé's dance and surprise him with it at the wedding. and surprise him with it at the wedding. She emailed the song to me today and reminded me not to tell him about it.

I really don't like the song. To start, it's four and a half minutes long. When I told her I wanted the mother, son and father-daughter dance to be around two, two and a half minutes. wanted the mother, son and father-daughter dance to be around 2-2.5 minutes. My biggest issue with the song though is the lyric content. I'm in love with you. It's far too romantic for a mother-son dance. Some of the lyrics highlighted here include she refers to herself as his first love. I'm your first love. Yeah go on. You've made me the luckiest girl in town she lives in. Yeah I'm feeling emotional incest. Thanks you for a hundred kisses emotional incest directly after mentioning the wedding

says no matter what happens i'll always be here for you insinuating the marriage won't work she's like when you get divorced mummy's still here with a thousand kisses. This comes after years of emotional incest from her and constant sabotage. What did I say? Have you read this? No. I am struggling with what to do. I want to respect the gesture of her making a special song for him as a surprise but I know he's going to be embarrassed I will be upset about the content do I tell him do I take the plunge and ask her to shorten it do I shut up and let it happen I think he needs the heads up he's got it you've got to give him the heads up because if my mum or dad had done anything like that might I'd be like I mean the idea is lovely yeah but the content is like I love I love that because you know you

get the father daughter dance unless obviously you don't have a father then then it would be daughter mother blah blah blah it's given me the idea that possibly dad isn't there so mother son situation yeah and I love that because I think obviously the bride and the father generally have a dance not so much in the UK but that's more I feel like that's more of an American thing but to have a and maybe I'm saying that because I've got boys but I feel like that's lovely to then include the the other side you know the groom and their family member so I think that's lovely I have no problem with that I'm all for that actually um I think it's emotional incest as I've been saying

um and I think uh she needs to calm down a little bit like it's I mean everyone's going to be like oh like are you in love with your son and it's like do relax what do you think same yeah like yeah i agree with is a lovely it's lovely like do relax what do you think same yeah like yeah i agree with is a lovely it's lovely absolutely outrageous it's out of control it's unnecessary like however much you love your child you don't need it in a song there are a hundred songs like you know dance with my father again or you get what I'm saying you can pick something like for mine what's the song where they uh you know the song why you're always in a mood that reminds me of Alfie and Harry because

we're driving to uh school and they sing it all the time and now every time I hear it I feel like they're asking me why I'm always in a mood and I'm like because of you but yeah so that you know even it would be a song that would best remind give me memories of the boys that we've sung or done something together not I've written you a love song to my son on our wedding day I mean their wedding day so pretty much everyone said you need to tell him you guys are team you need to let him know what's going on because it's mortifying that's pretty much what all of you said like you must yeah but it is like quick tell him tell him please she's in love with him in the weird way yeah so here's the update mother son dance at wedding. So, thank you all for

your perspective and advice. I told DH, about his mum's plans and he was shocked. He immediately said, no, no, no! No!

And told me that he views this as a gift for herself and in no way for him. I did not play him the song but I told him the lyrics that I knew would upset him the most. I've been in love with you since I gushed you out my gash. gush you out my gash gush you out my gash that is filthy well that's what happens you didn't tear me son I feel like I'm taking it too far now. Stop. We are going on a week-long unplugged vacation this weekend and decided not to address

it with her until we return. We want to be extremely strategic with how we handle this situation I decided to just reply to mother-in-law's email and say thanks for getting this to me I will listen to it when I get a chance we are considering telling her that husband was logged into my email on his phone and saw it and that he does not want to do it that's a good idea this would be me voice though on whatsapp yeah so you ain't doing that down phone off off on vacation in any case i feel really prepared now to shut that shit down and shut that shit down. And shut that shit down hard. Over my wedding. And shut that shit down so hard that. I mean, there isn't another update yet. Are you not embarrassed?

I need to know now. Yeah, keep it. But straight away, both of mine would be, because of the way I brought them up, they'd be like, you ain't doing that. That's like bearing back. That's bearing back. That like bearing back that's bear embarrassing mum yeah they probably won't even let you like do a speech at their wedding I would never I would never first of all do a song like that a personalized song but I do love the

concept of the mother and son dance I think that's so sweet I've seen that in a few videos as well because that comes up in our children's weddings I've never seen it I feel like it. That's so sweet. I've seen that in a few videos as well. Because that includes us in our children's weddings. Oh, absolutely. I've never seen it. I feel like it's like a new thing, like a 24th century thing. Not when we, back in the day when we were getting married and that. I actually think that that is a miss, I feel gutted that that is a miss opportunity. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And I feel like going forward, I'd love to see more about that. Because I think, you know, when we talk about people having babies and then the lady that's had the baby, and I'm not taking it away from women, I've had my own children, I do definitely think that your in-laws are just as much important as your mum and dad. Like, I really stand fast on that view. And the same goes for weddings.

It's important that the in-laws are included, right? Absolutely. But, you know, like... I'm not saying toxic mums. They all have a position to play in somebody's wedding, don't they? Of course, of course. And it is all as important whether someone's got a speech in position or a dance position or whatever. Everyone has still got their part to play yeah I mean like my uh mum-in-law I invited her to if she wanted to come and see the dress and all that because she has sons yeah so I didn't know if she wanted to have that I mean yeah mine said no yeah she's like oh no no I think that's a thing for you and your mum

yeah she said that but for me I was definitely open to saying do you want and really that was just a bond I think I was like would you like to let's bond let's bond over this yeah and my mum had no problem with that the same my mum so I think that's a fantastic one I'm happy she didn't come as well because then she got more of the stay. Who went with you? It was mum, Helen and Robin, I think. I don't know who Robin is. Stuart's sister. Nice, nice. I think Robin came.

I can't remember. I'm pretty sure Helen was there though. I think the first time, I don't know if Jenny was with me the first time. Someone was with me and I tried on every single dress in that wedding shop. Because I originally wanted a dress similar to yours. Every single dress. Like a silk. That was my vision.

I tried so many dresses on. I went to so many different shops. No, it was winter one. No, no. My last shop, and it literally was a, I was so flat and deflated. Yeah. And I was like, this is bullshit. Yeah.

And then the shop, we drove past and I was like, shall we just go in there, Mum? And she's like, all right. And we went in. And it was luckily just one that you could walk in. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know. I know what I want and I haven't found it. And again, I tried on all these other dresses and I'm like, I don't know. I know what I want and I haven't found it. Yeah.

And again, I tried on all these other dresses and I'm like, I don't know why I'm doing this because this is hurting my feelings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, that one. Yeah.

I mean, the train was fucking ridiculous. It was the same length as the dress. It was huge. And I was like, that's not what I want but we can get that off, right? Yeah. And then it happened to be in a sale as well so me I tried on all these dresses

because my vision was more of like a silk I wish there was another update yeah that's fine you just make sure you keep it and yeah mine was like of a silk but still I knew I wanted like a more of a ball gown dress um and uh I put them on and I wasn't feeling it I was like oh my god and then the last one that was pulled was that angel dress which was my wedding dress and the minute I put it on I was like oh my god this is the dress. I thought that I wanted sleeves like I always thought that it'd be either a shoulder or off the shoulder although I knew off the shoulder may have made me look broader yeah yeah because I know that we're both quite broad yeah so I was like but

so I thought a strap will sort of create yeah yeah a funnel look but it just wasn't yeah funny in it I mean I knew the minute I put it on my body I knew I was like this is the dress and then obviously took my dad back and was like get your get your card out brother um but yeah no good time so uh yeah that's some emotional incest for you I mean we could do a whole episode on emotional incest I don't know if I've got that in me I think um it stresses me out I mean that, that whole thing stresses me out. That can stress me out. I hope she comes back. How old is it?

Not long. Um, so, hold on. Yeah, it's fine. She might come back and update again. I hope she does. You know you can message her as well and ask her and say, hi, I'm Emily from Middle-Aged Opinion. So the update was three days ago. Yeah.

So the wedding hasn't been yet so let's see what happens she's going to be one of those that is on the internet going so the first one was a month ago her update was three days ago I reckon you'll get another one but she's going to be on the internet going my daughter-in-law hates me

she hates me everyone no no it's all a month ago yeah so that's what i mean yeah we're just gonna have to wait and see right i feel like we're done all right all right so for another episode please follow subscribe uh any likes would be great i mean please do it do everything everything. Like, subscribe, download. Yeah. Leave us some comments. That would be fun.

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later status oh my god every time i get up it's like giving birth oh jesus well it is the way i stand up and stuff and then my legs go like a nun. I'm like, oh! Oh. Wow. What do you think of that? What don't you think of that? I think that girl has got everything that she deserves.

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