Middle-aged opinion - How didn’t I know you were a catfish?

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Today we talk about catfishes not the fish but the people who pretend they’re someone they’re not people pretending to be famous and having four long year relationships to normal people in relatio...nships online for months and then finding out the person that they were talking to and fell in love wasn’t that person at all it said on both parts the catfish and the person that’s been fooled. We hope you enjoyed today’s episode. #Catfish #Relationships #YouTrickedMe #Liar

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wow, what do you think of that? What don't you think of that? Well I think that girl has got everything in her head. So I don't think I need to take a jumper now, so I can unpack that one. Did you say a jumper? I was going to say it because I get chilly, I know what I'm like. I know what I'm like and when I'm hungover and tired I get chilly. I generally take a dressing gown, do you think I'll need that? Erm, probably not. Probably not. I generally take a dressing gown. Do you think I'll need that?
Starting point is 00:00:26 Probably not. Probably not. Hence why I might just take the jumper out. But you're right, what about the morning? It's not going to be like this. It is. Mine was still saying 23. Yeah. So right now it is 25 degrees. I mean I've got sweat under my tits. Tomorrow
Starting point is 00:00:49 it's going to be 30 degrees babe. What in Bogna? No, tomorrow here. Right anyway Bogna. Bogna. Friday. Friday. 20. Oh. No mine will say higher than that. Okay I was gonna say show me but why mine's all of a sudden got rain it didn't have that. There are thunderstorms coming. What was what is your saying? I don't know. What though? It's uncomfortable this heat. Yeah. For anyone listening we must spritz mine about the heat because it hits fucking different. We ain't got no aircon. I'm saying that I'd be cold in aircon. Yeah, I hate aircon. But I'm grateful for the aircon I've got at work. Just to drop it a little bit, do you know what I mean? To sit around 20, I like 22.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So I got rain on Thursday, but not on the Friday. And what is the temperature? 22. And can you go any further? I can't go any further than that. I just go on BBC, but I never trust BBC. No, yeah, because I don't. To be fair, babe, I just kind of play it by ear
Starting point is 00:02:00 each day to the next. You never know. There you go. Hold on, thanks. I'm touching a bum for all our viewers. Today, that's Saturday, how far can we go? Is it go to the top? It might be set on that? Oh there you go. It's fine, like whatever. Ten day forecast. Ten day forecast. What is it saying?
Starting point is 00:02:29 It is saying, it is saying 21, 22, 20. Yeah. Twenty five. Partly cloudy. It meant, partly cloudy, it literally is, you're still gonna get. And then we've got wind on Friday, but it doesn't really matter about the Friday. Does it? No, it's 24% chance. But equally I think that's humidity. No, that's rain.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Fuck off. Fuck off. Is it? Yes. Oh, there's humidity there. We could do with a thunderstorm to be honest, just to cool it down. Yeah there is one on its way but right now it's North England. Yeah. But I don't think it'll make it this far. This doesn't say till Tuesday we're getting any rain. This one is saying, this one ain't even telling me rain. They all lie. They're lying. Yeah, I think we just have to play. Either way, I think you're right, we'll be nice and warm. Yeah. I'm thinking just take, maybe just take the jumper and not all those bits, the, erm,
Starting point is 00:03:43 the snoodies and shit. Alright, calm down. Oh no, that's my, my, calm down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, what did you wanna start? Are we all right to start with catfish? Sure. Sure, Danny?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Hello everyone, and welcome to Middle-aged Opinion. I am your host, Ellie. And I am your host, Emily I'm your host Emily and today We are going to be talking about catfished. Yes, who's been catfished and how hot we are It's so it's I've been catfished or attempted. Oh, yeah I was gonna ask that because obviously you were on dating apps Yeah, I once and I and I was telling Helen actually, it was like, yeah, this guy ain't real.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I said, look at him, he ain't real. Because he was too good looking. He was beautiful. Right. He was an American army. Right. And you're like, mate, we don't even live in the same continent, like.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He was trying to hit you up. I'm like, and he's like, aw, baby, you're you're so beautiful well that's how I think he sounded anyway I'm really sorry not American at all then oh definitely not American and then he's like oh no something about and someone had stolen all his uniform and he's got paid this much back and he's to get it what did you say I'm going that's really bad yeah and and actually I think I pissed about with it for a little while because I said to Helen and she's like yeah do it so I did that he got a little bit aggy
Starting point is 00:05:15 yeah of course he did because I wanted your money I was like oh no I've only got a penny yeah I got a penny I can sell my feet pictures. Oh my god, me? I was hoping you'd be able to look after me, mate. You're the one in the army. I know your pensions. I have heard of that, a lot of army men do that. But they're just stolen pictures. Yeah, of course. Send me your money. What money? Dude, his name is Stanley. It wasn't called Stanley. His name is Stanley. Yeah, see, that would put me off straight away. I'd scroll past him and he'd just confess his name is Stanley it was a course and his name is Stan yeah see that would put me off straight away I'd scroll passing and he just I didn't I didn't even I did he obviously met me yeah he's white I looked like a victim
Starting point is 00:05:58 and he was like oh there's one he said be a month oh no maybe I look at it I was just saying you look vulnerable you looked like you had money. I looked like I had money and I was dumb. Otherwise he wouldn't have bothered. No, I feel like they must look for something. I think we've had... So maybe they look on your bio like to say that you're divorced or something like that. Mine never said divorced. Okay. Is it separated? Yeah, no. I've never, obviously I've never been on a dating app or tried to chat to people over the internet but people have like who was the real someone sent us a message on our TikTok and it was like I am the real sims
Starting point is 00:06:36 training it was the real whatever actor and I was like okay cool. Oh and yeah Musk Elon Musk that was it I'm the real Elon Musk. Do you believe me? Yes. Yes. Yes. What car have you got? Oh Tesla obviously we got tesla that he has loads of loads of cars or what's your favorite car? Oh, I don't know I enjoyed that though. Yeah, it was amazing Yeah, so we had Elon Musk the the real Elon Musk, just in case anyone's wondering. And it was, it was an, is it Annamina teeth? Where they're trying to hide that they're the real Elon Musk, but called the account Elon Musk being the real one.
Starting point is 00:07:18 In real life. Yeah, it literally was like that. No scam here. I was like, okay, I believe you. Right. Oh my life. I did think for the next podcast, we would do auto correct fail.
Starting point is 00:07:34 So funny one. But the only thing with that is obviously we have to send you all the pictures and you have to add them. That's it, give me some work. Yeah. Give me some work. Because you ain't got enough going on in your life.
Starting point is 00:07:44 No, I do, fuck all. Give me some work. Yeah. Give me some work. Because you ain't got enough going on in your life. No, I do. Fuck all. Um, none of them are very long, but... Oh, I found some real long ones. Did you? I skipped them. Yeah. To be fair, I don't feel like I looked hard enough because I've been so busy, I've just been brain-fakening somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Some of them went into right detail and then they were still really confused at the end, but they literally put it in writing and were still confused and asking for advice at the end because we do I'm really sorry I already feel I already feel I know how I feel about this yeah because you can't grasp how someone can be taken in like that. It's not even just being taken in. I'm not saying that it can't happen to people where they could meet a celebrity and end up with them. I'm not saying that can't happen. I don't believe that would happen. But it's unlikely that this person is reaching out over the internet to a random person. It's
Starting point is 00:08:48 really unlikely. Like almost like 100% unlikely. Not to mention, it's not done. It's just, they've got to keep themselves safe as well. Not just celebrities, but when you're chatting with someone and you meet them online, I don't understand, like we're 2025, but when you're chatting with someone and you meet them online I don't understand like we're 2025 so if you're not facetiming this that and the other I don't understand you know why aren't you Google reversing the images and stuff like that I don't really I've not got the fix to do that yeah then get off in and it brav. Right, anyway. Going. I got catfished for four years. I don't know, let me just check I ain't got that one.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Well, if you do, I've only got, yeah, I've only got the ones I've got. Right, literally, four years, it's six months later, and I'm still mad, and I still think about them. I don't even know who the real person is or if it was ever a man or a woman or anything. They legit made me fall in love, ask conversations, talking late nights etc. It was incredibly, it was incredible how hard this person would literally destroy inside it's like it's 2am and i'm just staring at the old profile picture like this person really put
Starting point is 00:10:17 really put that there claws deep into my skin um and i've been bleeding out ever since. I removed them, I deleted the entire app. I can't lie, I'm feeling a whirlwind of emotion and I'm just mad because I don't have no closure for this situation. situation, I just feel like I got finished to the max and I'm just absolutely destroyed inside like I wish I could talk to the real person like I'm just lost any advice would be helpful because I just want to move on and not feel stuck on this person. Go. Okay okay so my initial feeling is like you sound so dramatic but I also understand how clearly love bombed and how easy that is to be sucked in because when someone's
Starting point is 00:11:30 being nice to you and telling you every single wonderful thing they could tell you you can't help that if that's what you're looking for my problem is for you yes if that's what you're looking for. And that person there, it's a lady, right? I'm guessing she may. I'm assuming, I'm grasping. That person is looking for that. So to be told you're wonderful and whatever, whatever that other person said to them, that was what she was dying for,
Starting point is 00:12:00 and it stopped. And this is why she's now in pain. And the closure that she's looking for, she's never going to get because this person doesn't care. But four years, babe, is a long though. I'm assuming a very romantic over the, I mean, I've watched Catfish UK and the other one, the American one. And I just- That's a long time. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:12:26 A long time to not have any true representation of whether this person is real or not. And not move on with your life in that time because you're meeting people all the time. Clearly not. Clearly not. I think in four years, if you haven't physically met
Starting point is 00:12:45 somebody yeah or at least face time no not even face time because again I watched the catfish this is your father you watch the fucking catfish I like catfish so I was watching a catfish and what this person had done was had taken an image but because there was a slight movement in it it looked like this person was moving and it was recorded and then they were she was showing like the catfish people this recording and they're like what do you think about that and she's like oh you know nothing like you know he's chatting away can you not see how he's it was in a loop so he wasn't moving a lot, but he had moved enough that you could see him jump back and then start the cycle again.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That's what I thought was happening. Now I saw that straight away. Like AI. Massively. Yeah, but that person, whoever was watching that. It was the person in the pictures. Yeah, but that person clearly wanted that to be true. So the catfish was the person in the pictures. But there was no audio. So it wasn't the person in the pictures. No, yeah, no, all the pictures were, but obviously it isn't the person. The person in the pictures.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Okay, yeah, yeah, they've stolen. It's all stolen in the tree. Yeah, yeah. But this video was of the pictures so that it looked like it was him. It is sad. It's terribly sad It was just a looped Image Because there was no audio. That's the thing we we moved on just so they make a time
Starting point is 00:14:18 Normally to this internet stuff and you just don't know who the fuck you're talking to. It's a top comment This is my first ever comment or posting on Reddit. For fuck's sake. This is some, yeah, top comment. This happened to me as well. It happened two years ago for two years. I fell in love with a guy and shared a friend group. They actively spoke to each other for two years.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They then suddenly all vanished. Ah, sorry. Suddenly all vanished. Where the fuck was that? Sorry, I've lost it. This happened as well, da da da. Fell in love with the guy, friend group. They all vanished.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I've been looking around Reddit at catfish and love scam stories to try and learn because I have been so confused and hopeless. I would honestly really really love to talk with you and share experiences because I have felt lost with the trauma for so long. So there is she put yeah sure as in to talk but this one caught my eye because she did write back quite a bit so it says I'm so sorry I get it though my catfish went on for six months and even sent flowers we talked almost every night text had phone sex the whole thing and six months in he asked for money a lot of money but and then dash
Starting point is 00:15:47 and this is the thing even my best friend don't get I miss him the David I talked to and shared with was just a stinky catfish but I miss him I got you so then OP says can I talk to you in DMs about this, getting catfished, it's a lot of embarrassing details I have that I don't want to put in the open, but I got violated pretty bad. Like the catfish got a lot of photos of me, videos. She sent porn over the internet to him
Starting point is 00:16:26 and he's got them all so and then that she's she's replied and said can we and talk tomorrow OP said yeah sure take your time but this is I didn't even consider that until I've seen that but you've got to think you would a Sneaky tip picture you you'd that's all you know. Oh, yeah, that is all you've got because obviously I Didn't even put that into it But yeah, you would if you're not seeing someone and the only thing you've got is online jiggy jiggy. You are going to You're going to do it. Yeah, you are. You you know I mean like say you had fallen for this American soldier but do you see what I'm saying like say you had and then the only thing you both have is internet sex so it's not happening but
Starting point is 00:17:16 it's not okay is it but yeah that's that's some that's a different level yeah you can't I mean but now I'm wondering, because she doesn't say, but did she receive stuff back? Possibly, but it would have just been screenshots of somebody else's online. Yeah, well, I mean, get them off Snapchat, trust. Just go online and tap in dick and you'll get images. I wanna say- It's weird if she's done it. It's weird that
Starting point is 00:17:45 someone probably did do that. Yeah. But the lady who's responded, I also get that. Yeah. I understand that she misses because so much of her time was taken up investing into being in contact. I just... And when you haven't got that contact anymore, you do miss that. I just don't get that. It's probably not the person, it's the quality time of the company that was being put there.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But without face to face and even over the like, face time, I don't get how you're building that bond. Because I just, for me personally, I mean I'm not in the situation so it's, I'm not trying to judge, I'm just trying to understand that without... Well, she said there was a lot of effort put in from him, right? Yeah. So I'm assuming that there would have been like intimate chats, I'm not talking sexual, I mean personal, intimate, deep conversations.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And they were just saying anything to... But a lot of the time it's just about money, it's really sad. Anyway, over to you. Okay. Think I'm being catfished. Catfishing. Burner account for obvious reasons. If mods want me to identify with my real account, I am happy to do so privately. Speaking to a girl, I'm ready for eight weeks now. Hold on, let me just double- Oh, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:19:20 This was three months ago. So speaking up to a girl, I'm ready for eight weeks now and there is a few things that are set in my spidey senses. One, she told me her first name pretty early on. I mean I feel like I'd want to know their real name. I don't feel like that's a big deal so far. No, she told me some horrible things about her past that Absolutely broke my heart That's a big deal. Yeah and eight weeks. That's quite soon isn't it? Weird three Her reddit profile says her age is one thing And they didn't go any further than that and four we daily. I get countless pictures of her and her day every day,
Starting point is 00:20:08 unfakable ones as well. We've done the whole identification stuff, i.e. she holds something up, I request next to her face, et cetera. Oh, okay, so. Just to prove it's real. Prove it's real, and it's not that repeat image we've been doing that. Of course they are. So yesterday she was
Starting point is 00:20:31 having a crappy day so I wanted to send her some money so she could get... We need Honestly. Green and red. Change this, change this colour. Oh no there's a rainbow. There is no red. Oh there's pink. Red flag. Red flag. Red flag. It's not a bad idea we get some little props I think. Anyway I want to send her some money so she could get takeout to cheer her up so she gave me her PayPal which I noticed contained her full name. Now she's never asked for this or ever hinted. Now as my Spidey senses were set off as I noticed her name was different so I did some digging her age is 12 years off she is older she claimed to be in her 30s it appears she is in her 40s is it you stop me me we could go take away new really account yeah she seems to be married to someone up until two weeks ago at a
Starting point is 00:21:48 minimum what set my senses off was I suggested moving to WhatsApp and she said she doesn't know what that is that's rude that was like an attack she doesn't know what WhatsApp is she's either playing dumb or WhatsApp. Well if she's in her 40s she definitely knows what WhatsApp is. We live on that shit. Okay go on. I feel angry. We were putting plans in place for her to come over here at the end of the year. I genuinely don't know whether to confront her to find out why and if I do how or do I just block her and move on? I don't know what I think. Block block block block block! From using her full name and state I've got the following. I've literally got her home address, mobile number, company she works for her Facebook I know her partner's name who
Starting point is 00:22:46 he works for etc I did a Google Street View and her house on Google Street View ties in with the photo she has sent me actually just me I mean he's done a good job there and that's exactly what people should be doing yeah I'm annoyed as I like to think I am an intelligent guy but I I fell for it can anyone tell me if I'm being stupid in continuing with this person yes should I confront them no nope if so how should I do it we shared so much together she told me everything bad that has happened to her and I mean some truly horrible things I shared my past with her the horrible thing is I feel that connected I feel that connected woman is lonely in her marriage
Starting point is 00:23:49 she's hit it off with someone on reddit just on a normal conversation they've chatted it's gone further than it should she's not gonna leave her husband and their kids for you and she's told too many lies and it's too late to take it back you have no idea with the bad stuff she told you whether it's true and it's too late to take it back. You have no idea with the bad stuff she told you, whether it's true and it's completely irrelevant to... I mean it could be real. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's just someone to vent with. That's what I mean. But it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Right. And she's married.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And she's 12 years older than you, which is not a problem, whatever. My problem is it's just another lie to add on to what she's already... Just 40 years old and lying like come on love this is the time that you don't need to lie. Because if I got a takeaway I know he wouldn't ask me how I pay for it he'd just think I got the takeaway I was gonna say like someone who's paid for your takeaway but no it wouldn't be a question because I just say I got myself a takeaway But that's very weird that you got her a takeaway
Starting point is 00:24:49 What she do sit and eat her takeaway in front of her kids and her husband weird man You just thought course she ordered a lot because she she ordered for the whole family Move on that's what she did you bet it's gonna be painful, but she's a very very Only a week. Yeah're only 8 weeks deep You're only 8 weeks deep And she ain't the one Right and then I mean It's a shame that you didn't start with all this search about
Starting point is 00:25:15 It is what it is You don't know, that's the weird thing is you don't I mean I do, we do Yeah But you don't. Especially if you meet them on something that's got profile, you kind of go with that profile. Unless someone's like, Katy Whiskernunners,
Starting point is 00:25:36 that's their name and you're like that, yeah, that's not your birth name. I think the thing is as well, I think you're either an honest straightforward person or you're not and There seem to be a lot more nots than us That's what I'm saying and because obviously when you've done your dating profile, you're just very like this is me This is what part of my life is and there's no
Starting point is 00:25:56 Bullshitting or fucking about and then you've got somebody fucking about who's married They are not going to leave their husband for you They just simply want someone to pay attention to them they're sitting at their work desk they should be doing admin and they're on an account exactly exactly sad but moving on comments sounds like you are being catfished just the age difference sounds fishy even if that is her and she is not a scammer, she could be doing this just to live out some weird fantasy in her mind.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah. She could be a mother using a daughter to play a mean trick on you. She could be anything. But someone you can't, someone you can't trust after only eight weeks of exchanging photos and to be and by the way sorry please do not send any nude or compromising photos of yourself too late also she could be telling you stories about her past that are not true at all the pity stories get a lot of attention. Do you know what just comes to my head? She's like, you met her on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Like those stories could have been stories she's just read from Reddit. And she's like, wow, hey, we know someone who used somebody else's stories for somebody else, doesn't that? It's a true story. My true story. Nobody else's. Yeah. It's a true story. My true story. Yeah. But yeah. Weird. The pity stories get a lot
Starting point is 00:27:29 of attention. Like looking at car wrecks on the side of a road. You need to meet people your own age and in person, rude, for your own sake. I agree. I think I read somewhere recently, really recently, that I can date people that are half my age at seven. So what's that? 27? 27? 28. G-Rack. It's like a child. It's like rape. It's not okay. It's like paedophilia. I might possibly go down to a 38 but that's still a feeling. No 38 feels fine. It feels fine. I still feel like I'm a bit babysitting. Because they're on the right side of the fault. Still a bit babysitting. Yeah. It is. You might meet someone next weekend. Babe we're going buttlings. Yeah you might might meet someone. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Sorry, at least come go to Butlins, because we go to Butlins. That's not what you go to Butlins for. If you go to Butlins and you meet someone, you don't know their name, babe. You're not coming away knowing their name with a number. Yeah, it's true. They're all married.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I went to Butlins once, and one of the group met someone. What happens in Butlins, they go to Butlins. No, she was single. She's single, ready to mingle. Met him, said they didn't hook up but they hooked up. Massively. And then... Never spoken to him since. That's because that's what happens in buttlings. Yeah. They're all hendos and stuff. We're all like, you're not really surprised love. This is the love of my life. Like literally we were like... We met him in buttlings. We were going to get married Was he though? Was he?
Starting point is 00:29:06 No Is my friend being catfished? My friend met a guy on a dating app who apparently is a pretty big influencer who's been offline, private for a year or so now They've been talking for a few months and do voice calls almost every day and send pictures etc but my friend and this guy have yet to meet or do a video call. So she has his phone number, supposed name and email address and even a vague location of where he lives but when I tried to search these up I found nothing keeping it keeping it vague for her sake but I
Starting point is 00:29:54 feel like it's too fishy not to be. Do we have to say the word fishy just because we're saying catfished like what we're, are we just trying to pun it up? What word do you want to call it? Yeah, just... Dodgy? I didn't write the story, babe. Just saying that, but they purposely making a pun. No. Sorry, I weren't listening because I got caught on that.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'm not even gonna lie. Caught on what? The word fishy. Okay, yeah, so what do you think? I don't know, I didn't even listen. Right, my friend met a guy on a dating app who apparently is a big influencer. They've done no video calls, but they've chatted and sent pictures. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:30:36 Bullshit. Bullshit? Bullshit. Bullshit? Aww. Most likely warn her that if he asks for money, gift cards, crypto or asks her to accept money or send money to someone else for any reason it's a scam. Is she at least remembering not to fall in love with someone she hasn't met?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Hope he does respond, she's not in love or anything not yet yeah but she's hesitant to keep dating etc and from what she's told me he's never once asked for money or discussed anything like that yet he also is yeah because they fucking really you know you yeah he also seems to to know a lot about what he's saying, what he does for a living etc which is why she's unsure. Yeah, you can google that shit. He's also spoken to her dad and brother while on the phone so it's just weird as hell. She's also texted his mum and spoken to some of his friends, reminds me of that thingy Bob you just said,
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'll tell you in a minute, went on call which seems like so much effort for a catfish. They do it, it's like a proper long game. But that one you read with the comment and I went, I've seen that, so on catfish, the American one, the whole fucking friends and family were involved in catfishing this person, sending money, sending money, sending money, and it was fucking everyone. Which is just crazy to me. All in on it. Because if you were like, oh Ellie we're catfishing this guy for some money, and I'd be like, have you gone and lost your mind? Aren't you busy? So I just-
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's their business's that's their business you know business people can turn fucking violent you do weird shit like that is their business their whole family that's their business it's like they're off to Dubai thanks to that guy weird yeah it's crazy. I'm sure it's easier to sell pictures of your feet. I know we still haven't tried that. Yeah I think we should. Not right now your foot's skanky. I'll put, I think that's a good thing you know. I reckon there's something like that. Yeah but I've removed all my crust. Is it gonna fall off when it falls off? When it falls off, can I? Appendix mode.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Oh. I think it's still moist. I painted over. So, Emily rung me and she was telling me that one of her toenails was like black and falling off. And I was like, how funny? Cause I've just taken my nail varnish off and half my toenail is that we worked out
Starting point is 00:33:23 it was tough mudder. Did we tell you that we did a tough mudder? We did, once or twice. Yeah, so we both got injured from there on our liquid toes and rosies without realizing. Yeah, I think it's going to come off. My feet are so warm. My feet are warm. I feel a bit swollen. Swollen. Swollen.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, I've even been taking on my fucking shoes in the garden now. Honestly, I've been at work in the field with my shoes off, the kids are like, hey, shoes me. And you're like, because it's 700 degrees. When my feet are hot, that's when I'm fucking hot, because normally my feet are freezing.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Agitated. Yes. So agitated. But sometimes in the summer. Agitated when hot, cold feet too. I freeze a bottle of water and put it at the end of my bed. agitated yes so agitated but sometimes in the summer agitate with a hot cold feet so I freeze a bottle of water and put it at the end of my bed and just touch it with my feet to calm me down I might do that it's amazing I might do that for the boy yeah like a hot water bottle but a bottle of frozen water at the end of
Starting point is 00:34:20 the bed to put a towel underneath it and you put your feet on it call you down He's been having nosebleeds because of the heat the temperature like that will happen to me so I'd everywhere My great. Yeah, great. I'll just like again tonight. Right go on anyway Obviously, I wash your sheets every week. No, she does. Yes, I do terrible mother You should see it state of it. The only thing she cleans is the fucking bed when we're on camera saying that mine looks like I've fucking been raided babe. Like there's been somebody's been looking for something and they pulled out every drawer. Did you find it? Nah. I did. It was the hair. But did they put it away? No they didn't because they went back to sanding the unit. That would be me so inconsiderate. I know. But did they put it away? No, they didn't because they went back to sand in the unit.
Starting point is 00:35:12 That would be me so inconsiderate. I know. Right. Got semi catfished and was very honest, cancelled and feel terrible. Okay. All right. I was talking to a girl on a dating app. That's where it all begins. Like I thought it, don't you have to show ID or something before you go on these things? Well the ones I went on, they all wanted you to take a picture of it, like you couldn't send an image, you had to take a picture. Yeah, yeah. Like a, yeah. For you to be verified. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'm not sure whether all of them do that, but the ones I went on did. You should have to upload ID in case anything happens on these dates yeah yeah yeah I agree like maybe not too much personal ID but because you don't why you don't know who's running these fucking things it's all on a database baby it's the same when you upload your stuff to anywhere you never know who it is anyway I was talking to a girl on a dating app who looked very attractive and we were having a great combo we were both looking for something serious and had a lot in common we continued to text a lot
Starting point is 00:36:13 of for several days before I planned the date I was super excited and even got her flowers based on her favorite color. That's cute. I know. When I arrived at her house a person about 30 to 40, oh no this is rude, excuse me, 30 to 40 pounds heavier than I was expecting walked out. I reacted genuinely and said, damn! Who are you? who are you who are you you're not eggs no way really is that a prank be honest could you mention someone saying that no you're a praying stop pranking me she did the slim filter on the face you look so different all right calm down yeah he went to town with that yeah we both looked at each other with confusion and I awkwardly started driving I explained that she looked very different from her photos I was being super cold and was clearly very
Starting point is 00:37:21 uncomfortable she started tearing up and told me to drop her off at a mall and she had Uber home later so she wasn't embarrassed returning so soon to her roommates. I told her I'm really sorry and gave her $20 bill for the Uber and wished her a good night. Now I feel like a huge arsehole. Oh, I don't know, you know. Oh, a little bit, just a little bit. She knows. But no, I'm with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Hold on. I was just extremely disappointed. For context, I am a very good shape. I am in very good shape, I am in very good shape and it's important, it's important my partner is too. Would it have been better to go through with the date and then just not had a second one? How do I avoid this in the future? You don't date on dating maps, that's how you avoid being catfished. I mean go on. Listen she is only in the wrong. She clearly you know like when you see these girls they
Starting point is 00:38:32 do the these pictures and then they slim they slim down the face and whatever so you can't have seen a body one unless she's ordered a whole body one. I don't think it's a problem that she's a big girl I think if she had been honest she would have gone on a date with someone that was all right with that instead of someone that doesn't appreciate that. And listen, I know everyone's like that's fat-est and whatever but actually everyone's got their own taste, their own cup of tea and there's nothing wrong with that either. Only she's in the wrong. Yes, he proper went off on one which got a bit out of hand however he was probably shocked um yeah i think it took a turn and then in talking about how amazing he is pisses me off but fine whatever do you know what i mean only she she was out of order yeah wasn't
Starting point is 00:39:22 harsh maybe a little bit but you'd be pissed off. I think where he took it was probably a bit much. Yeah. Like the reaction. Yeah. I mean, I think you can only, you only really need to go Damn once. Yeah, yeah. Or listen, or just go
Starting point is 00:39:40 and then come home and never see him again. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying you should have gone on a date. I'm not saying that. It sounds like she just got straight into his car from what I could tell. And he was a bit like, who the fuck are you? Did you eat my girlfriend? I mean, I'm surprised that isn't in there.
Starting point is 00:39:59 The way he reacted. She was out of order. There's nothing wrong with being a big girl, big boy, nothing wrong with it. I mean, how would you feel about someone giving you 20 quid yeah there's your uber home. I mean I'd take it. I'd take it. I'd go and get a takeaway. I'd be like come and get me I've got a takeaway. I'd be like yay! That went wrong. I don't know I think if you start off dishonest and then you expect someone to go along with it, it's kind of on you. I think he might just be a mouthy expressionist. But then, like I say, the only thing that pissed me off about him when he was like,
Starting point is 00:40:33 I'm absolutely amazing. But he obviously had some sort of expectation. Yeah. And it must have come from somewhere. Yeah, she's lied. In whatever photo she sent him, it wasn't a true representation of who she was babe. Oh this was me when I was 16. Right and I think it's not in people shouldn't do shit like that. It is because that that is how people lose their shit with people. Yeah of course it's course. And then obviously
Starting point is 00:40:59 they're gonna say shit because people that's what people do yeah and then your self-esteem is now like hit rock bottom because someone's gone what the fuck. Yeah I mean if I was going on a date and I turned up and that person was completely different from what I'd seen and expected you're already a liar. Yeah and it's as simple as that. Go on. So the top comment is, I mean you aren't in the wrong, but you aren't going to get that far in life or love with so little tact. So you might want to learn to have some. There was a better way to address it without going through with the date.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I would send her an apology for the way you reacted while still making it clear that you felt lied to and hurt yeah by the deception then wish her luck and hope she takes the feedback as intended then for the love of God learn to be more tactful in the future lol and an OP reply saying thank you I agree that's what I'm saying I think he was probably too expressionist when he see her he probably does owe her a... the ladies responded yeah go on do you know how many guys show up 40 pounds heavier and 10 to 20 years older I find that guys who are the most
Starting point is 00:42:24 critical of the women's appearance often have the same appearance issues themselves. I have never ended a date early because of the way the guy looked. I always give quality time to everyone. Yes, you could have done it better. Get off the internet, love. Ah, keyboard warrior. Yeah. No, listen, she's mad for whatever reason she's mad. He's not in the wrong. It's because it's been done to her.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It's as simple as that. Yeah exactly. And there's nothing. It's not about you. For all honesty my husband's a big guy. I like bigger. I prefer a bigger guy. Yeah that is my personal preference. I don't want a guy to fit into my skinny jeans. No I don't want to think when we go out dudes he looks thinner than me.
Starting point is 00:43:04 No. It's not my cup of tea I prefer a bigger guy, you know, that's my preference. I like a tall man as well Ideally, yeah, and you know nothing wrong with a short quickie. No, you know, he annoys me, but I'm describing my husband and Yeah, so, you know I have a per se a particular taste that happens to be, saying that though if Superman wanted to take me on a date I wouldn't say no. The Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, who else have got Black Panther, I know he's gone to heaven but he would have been in the running, Thor's a definite in there, just a full gangbang really but Superman has to join not the erm what who's the fast one the lightning what's his name flash not flash
Starting point is 00:43:52 not spider-man he's a baby it's not even that he's not my cup of tea I've not liked any of the spider-men I like no Batman's face not fancy like but I like no Batman's face. Not fancy like but I like what? No I was gonna say what's his face Edward Cullins yeah but I preferred him in Twilight not now. No. He's quite thin isn't he? Oh he's so thin. But ultimately I've heard some bad things recently about Superman. Yeah. But I wouldn't say no to Superman I'm not gonna lie. Henry Cavill. I feel like you probably aren't his type. That's rude. Well we know it's true though.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Well he's... He's too old. No, his missus is older. Is she? Maybe not. 12. What if I'm big? Oh Henry! Right, anyway. partner catfished. Don't know what to do, my partner has accused me of setting him up to catfish him.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Catfishing? I didn't. What does that mean? I didn't. He won't listen to me. He had a stalker who I know did this and made a fake account to suck him in with words photos etc. I'm so hot I'm sorry. I know I had to get my feet out of it please don't look at my feet cut my feet out of the recording. I feel like I'm gonna be zooming into our faces only. Fine and he obviously got sucked in. I'm talking! Sorry her husband got sucked in. Yes. Wow. With a catfish. Yeah you want to get rid of that. It stopped but he obviously got message and replied and arranged to meet this fake person. Divorce, divorce, divorce. I only know as this person sent me. Was me. Was copies of of messages to me this person that done this
Starting point is 00:45:47 i used to clean for and become so interested in my family life and then started messaging my partner and yes he got sucked in then he ignored her so that's how the fake emails and profile started how the fake emails and profile started. Well he gave into them and this attention they crave. She eventually forwarded the emails to prove that he talks to other women and sexually interacts with them. Obviously fake woman in brackets as it's as it her setting him up as can't cope with him rejecting him. So she's trying to ruin his life. I'm assuming so. But the man is dumb. Right anyway well recently she said she set it up again. He responded to the point to meet this fake person, but I was sent the emails and conversations.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Obviously I questioned this as he was going, as he was doing nights at work. I could clearly see that he turned up to meet this fake person, but obviously there was no one there. When he got home and I questioned it and why he said I set him up and played him but I didn't. He won't talk to me and won't believe me. I'm devastated but so angry as he obviously turned up expecting to meet someone the girl that's done this gets off doing this and enjoys destroying a family he destroyed okay Ellie finished the rest
Starting point is 00:47:36 he is wrong and guilty and is willing to chat and meet women so he has done this she done me a favor as he's willing to do this so confused now he thinks he thinks I set him up her fucking spinning is worse than mine mate but anyway I got through it. Go. When you go... We all know what that means, people. I'm not impressed with this girl yet. She ain't a girl's girl, but this is a skank. The one doing it. Yeah, this is a skank.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, it's weird that she's taken such an interest in the family. On the whole, she has done you a favor, because if your husband is willing to be going to meet up with other women, get rid of it. For 100%. And yeah, this is it, this is the turntable isn't it? This is now your fault that I went because you set me up. What, hang on a minute. Yeah. Your skanky ass went to meet some fuck. I told me you were at work.
Starting point is 00:48:45 This man is for the streets. Am I shouting? No. I'm sorry if I'm shouting. No, you're expressing yourself. I'm not okay with this. This man is for the streets. Your marriage is done. It's over. Because he keeps interacting with brandons on the internet to go and meet them.
Starting point is 00:49:00 How are you not grasping that... She may have been trying to do it to ruin your marriage but actually she would not be able to ruin your marriage if that man's eyes were set on you do you know how many weirdos send us messages on these thingy-bob yes obviously they're just weirdos but what do we do we ignore it I mean are you leaving your husband to go meet someone I'm too busy that day. I've got a unit to send. Superman has a manager. Oh, hello. Superman has a manager. I'm the real Henry.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I'm like, okay. Okay, anywhere you go. Emily, I'm just going out. Follow me on the tracker. You're flying. Yes, I'm a superman. I'm in a helicopter car because his cape's broke. He lives in, um.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Fuck off. No, don't be weird. I don't Fuck off, no. Don't be weird. I don't wanna be weird. Don't be weird. I've seen the interview. Don't be trying to mess up his family life. We're in love. It's really him.
Starting point is 00:49:53 He's leaving his wife with me. It's the real Henry Cavill. I do, he's like a polar trap. Stop it. I do look at him on TikTok sometimes. I'm like, oh, tell you what else I like, Gerald Butler. I do like him. He's fit as fuck that one. Hi Gerald! I watched him yesterday he was on is in a is it seven of gods
Starting point is 00:50:12 I can't remember what it's called. Yeah he's a god. Seven of gods. Yeah yeah yeah. He's a Greek thingy. Yeah he's definitely a god. Yeah I watched that just because he was in it. 100% words. I do like him. Sorry Paul. He's a nice looking man. So yeah, so basically, long story short, your husband ruined your marriage. Yeah. Okay. It's... Top comment. I believe he's gaslighting you in order to deflect his actions. Deflect, deflect. And make you out to be the predator. You need to step up, you need to step out of this triangle, internet search, camp man and absorb all the information I'm assuming. K-A-N, Pamp Man, yeah, M-A-N. M-A-N? Mm-hmm. Cup Man.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Is that triangle? Drama Triangle. Do you think that? Yeah. I see that one. The Cupman Drama Triangle is a social model of human interaction proposed by San Francisco psychiatrist Stephen B. Cartman in 1960. The triangle maps a type of destructive interaction that can occur among people in conflict. There you go. There's a lot more to it but you know that's the basics. And absorb all the
Starting point is 00:51:51 information when you're done with that. Internet search T. Oh for fuck's sake. What we need to know what he's saying. T. Dot. Dot. Yeah. E. E. Dot. D. D. Ted? Yeah but with the dots. Do I dot on the end? No. Sure? Oh yeah it's got a dot. Search. Ted. No idea. Conferences. What does Ted stand for? Put TED toxic people. Knowledge, equipment, design, control of crowds. It says search T-E-D and just know that this is the way to deal with toxic people in your life. I wish you the best. I hope he did respond and said I'm out this up before they don't even I'm doing what you do I've searched this up before I think they meant to say just reported so others know they're not on their own I have no idea what they're saying not many people got back to this this was a long time ago
Starting point is 00:53:03 but your partner I wonder if they're still together. So I put T.E.D. dealing with toxic relationships and it says it is easy to find yourself in a toxic relationship. So it's important to have self-compassion and not beat yourself up. There are three important steps to follow to ensure a healthy, happy relationship. What relationship. Right so I've just gone on her profile. Go on. Right so underneath that one that I've just read to you before that she put partner got catfish and accused me of being involved before I found out so this is another time. Again a whole like hundred days before that, partner accused me of catfishing him and I didn't. And before that, on the same day, partner accused me of catfishing.
Starting point is 00:53:52 But the latest one is, can only see partner's mutual friends on Facebook. I can only see partner's mutual friends on Facebook, but my friend checked and can see all his friends. When I ask her to check, check to see if it can be done by mistake, but no way. As you have to choose individuals. Yes you do. Right, so he's got someone on Facebook. But he doesn't want her to see.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah. Because some people. Nobody's responded to her on this, but this was only want her to see yeah because oh some nobody's responded to on this but this was only faith so not only have you stayed with him like this is a month on he's now chatting to people and blocks you on certain things where you can't he hasn't blocked you on Facebook but he's made it so you can't see what he's fucking up to and you're still not grasping that this man is a waste of fucking space I can't help you.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I've got no, I've got nothing for you. I'm losing sympathy rapidly. Take your last one. And then I've got one to finish. Okay. I thought I was being catfished, but the truth was so much worse. So I matched with this super chill guy on a random app. He was cute, had a good sense of humour and we hit it off right away. Conversations got flirty, okay very flirty and the vibe was just chef's kiss. After a sweet, uh sweet, after a week of late night chats and broad line NSFW talk, I decided to do a little digging. Just curiosity, you know. I reversed image search, good girl, and on one of his photos
Starting point is 00:55:40 nothing came up, not stolen at least, but something still felt off. So I asked him casually what he did for a living and he said he was taking a gap year. Red flag? Maybe. I asked how old he was. He hesitated. Then he replied, I'm 17 turning 18 soon though my soul left my body. I didn't panic just froze. I told him very nicely, hey I honestly thought you were older, you're cool but I really can't keep talking like this. I hope you understand. He actually replied with a sad face emoji because he's 18 and said I get it sorry I didn't say sooner the weird part a week later he messaged me from a different account pretending to be someone else same photos same flirty energy same exact jokes blocked deleteded, deleted, reported, less than learned, ask the age first, always.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Why wouldn't you ask the age? Surely that is one of the most- But wouldn't it be on the account? First of all, I have no idea, but second of all, when you're talking to someone, wouldn't you ask that? How old are you for you not to look at a guy and go, you look a little bit young? Actually, she doesn't say how old she is does she? But obviously too old for a 17 year old.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah listen it's gross I get it I understand why she was upset but I don't understand why before I mean this is just another detail you should have before having phone sex with someone surely. No? Is it just me? I don't know I don't know what's don't know. What's wrong with these people? This is why in our... I'm not mad at him. He was trying his luck. Yeah, but what? To come back on a different account? Yeah, he's trying his luck. Originally and then now again. Is he
Starting point is 00:57:38 this person? This is why I'm not sure. This is why in our day, Everfreak starts with ASL. What is ASL? I'll be go. Oh! Brings me back to the AOL, Yahoo, chat rooms. I've been there, it's internet. In the late 90s, early 2000s. Early 2000s, oh shit, I just realized
Starting point is 00:57:59 I was way underage then. I love ICQ. MLRC, Wanderer here. Yeah. here yeah they're all getting techniques yeah they're all internet things wow that's something I totally forgot about in my teenage years all right all right anyway go back what did we have? If it's dial up? we had pages and then reverse calls on the payphone. We had bikes outside your house. That's how we knew you were there. So if it was a dating app then he would have a fake age listed.
Starting point is 00:58:40 It's not your fault you got catfished and you did the right thing when you found out I'm gonna be funny, but how old are you? Oh here. How old are you? Like that's relevant here it is relevant. I want to know She hasn't I'm gonna say 40 something. That's why she's like responded. Oh, she's got feelings hurt I just find it very weird that these aren't questions that people ask each other. Yeah I mean I'm not being funny I feel like how old are you is one of the faces. How old are you, where do you live, you got any kids,
Starting point is 00:59:20 yapper yapper yapper. oh it all sounds fucking boring good help I'm never fucking single couldn't be fucked babe right go on I'm gonna finish us off with always reverse image search I see so many posts here asking is this person a catfish how how do I tell? Reverse image search. Google Lens, yes, Google can find copies of pictures that they have sent to you. Just choose extract matches on your top bar. Number two, free image search. There are some crazy free image searches out there. Copyseeker or Yadex can be better than Google. Face search.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yes, you can find people by face. Okay, it's not usually free, but trust me. One lenso AI, Facebook ID search, and you can find tens of photos of people. I've seen results for some facial recognition searches being titled romance scammer on the image itself. Some of these images are AI. If you image search and get AI generated images then one you uploaded is AI too. Sorry to break it to you. PSA, the fact that you didn't find them with reverse image search doesn't mean that they are not scammers. They can remove these images with DMCA claims. Be careful who you talk to, never send anyone money. If a random woman texts you on Reddit, she's probably not real. Keep that in your
Starting point is 01:01:15 mind. I liked that's why I chose it to end it with because it's just a bit of advice to people. There is comments, reverse image search is a must. Google, Yandex, missed stuff for me, but pro face finder caught a scammer, I almost believed. Why more accurate when others fail? So people are here just saying, look, and then it literally goes on to say loads of different ones that you can go on and it's definitely if that's how you're meeting someone it's definitely rely on just one as well do a double
Starting point is 01:01:52 check of course and it just keeps safe and like that other person said do not send fucking porn pictures and all that over the internet don't. It's one thing if you're doing a FaceTime and then you end up having sex over the FaceTime because you're seeing each other and I don't believe that can be recorded can it? Yeah but doesn't it notify the other person? It does depending on what you're on. Okay just fucking be careful really is the and that is why I finished with that story because it's a calm down people. It is so important to be careful. Yeah, because you never know who is on the other end. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, because it may be one... it might be one scammer going, oh I need... I'm not gonna make it. Yeah. Could
Starting point is 01:02:43 you send me and you send that. Yeah, or it could be another one where they works Oh fucking hard build your trust. Yeah Love an image of you. Yeah, then to manipulate you to tell you that if you don't Yeah, then I'm sending this that and the other all over the fucking internet and then scare the shit out of you Yeah, but like giving out your address to someone that you have no idea who they really are is crazy. Like, actually crazy. You have to be careful. Okay, that's it. We hope you enjoyed today's epic, epic, epic show. Epic show.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Epic show. Epic show. And we will see you next time. We're about to jump into... Like, follow, subscribe. For more content. Very cool. And just to remind everyone, it's fucking hot, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Really fucking hot. Get your ice packs out guys. Oh I'm so sweaty. Eww. Well it's not my fault is it? It's all on your bed though. When you sleep you can think of me. Yay!
Starting point is 01:03:38 Wow. What do you think of that? I think so you think of that? Well I think that girl has got everything that she deserves. I think so you think of that? Well I think that girl has got everything that she deserves. I think so you think of that? Well I think that girl has got everything that she deserves.

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