Middle-aged opinion - I think your son is a psychopath

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

Hello everyone, and welcome to episode 52 today. We talk about stories from the Reddit true of my chest it’s a diverse podcast with loads of different stories, but the main one that stuck out is of a young boy who we think might be a psychopath. We hope you enjoy the episode. Ellie and Emily

Wow, what do you think of her? What don't you think of her? Well I think that girl has got everything that she deserves. Wow, what do you think of her? What don't you think of her? Well I think that girl has got everything that she deserves. Anyway, I went in there and she was heaving. I was like, it still makes me laugh. I was like what's going on? She was like bleh. She was trying to tell me right. The more she was heaving the more I was fucking laughing. I was like what? She was like bleh. Turns out whoever had done the resident with the colostomy bag had put the bag in the laundry by accident Was just telling me whilst even the whole fucking time But honestly, I we still laugh about that and at the same place why Lisa was there? We're out having a fact break me Lisa and Lisa was there, we were out having a fag break, me, Lisa,

Mandy, and I think Charlotte was there, I can't remember, but anyway, so we were out there having a fag break, so the chef comes out and he's showing off in front of Charlotte and the rest of us, and he climbs up on the garage roof. And he just fucking went through. He got on the garage roof and just fucking fell through the roof what? he fell through the whole fucking room and we all go quiet, we're all like

where did he go? then he pops up like this fucking hell honestly I'm like don't laugh at yourself I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright, I'm alright,

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He had to go round and obviously he had to pay for the fucking roof over there. It was so funny Did he get a day out of it? No I was interested in the clown of that when it I mean the way Fucking had to still work the rest of the day Did he hate himself? I have no idea once we once we went We were all gone after that wow oh that was a fucking good day there are some stories from that place but that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life

I can't see oh what a good day anyway I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get it together now because I can't stop visualizing it. Oh. So out. Okay. Hello everyone. She's broken. Oh fucking hell. Anyway. I can't, it's really difficult to try and get my brain like because i keep just replaying it i can not honestly oh it's so funny oh dear right okay Okay. Anyway. Hello everyone and welcome to Malaysia to being you. Stop looking at me. I'm your host, Ellie. Is that all good enough? For fuck's sake. I feel like I'm going to be singing. Let me know when you're done. I'm staying one more story. I just feel like I wasn't there.

One more story. Go on. Me and my sister were in this deep conversation. I was pregnant with Alfie and I went, she fucking shut up because she thought there was a thing on her eye. What? I went, and she thought there was something on on her right what i went and she thought there was something on her so she jumped up and started fucking thrashing

i mean you might want to be there but i went to a training session i was quite heavily pregnant and then the instructor went that was it we had to go and break early and everything because I could not fucking stop laughing because all I could see was Lisa oh my goodness that was a good day as well I mean I throw up the whole day after but that was really funny that she literally had to stop the whole course because of you because I couldn't get myself together. I tried so hard to stop thinking about it, but every time I just,

so you said jumping up, no. Wow, good. And I had to apologize and everything, I didn't have to, but obviously I did, I was like, I'm so, it's the hormones, I'm so, but it's actually, it's not. It's just the replay. I'm very visual, yeah?

Right. Okay, let's go do you ready yeah you sure yeah can you go do I do the whole hello middle-aged okay sorry look I'm in trouble hello everyone oh see I'm trying to sit up and yeah look like I'm not really a snake chin in it hello everyone hello everyone and welcome to me late opinion you started that while I was watching and I know a carry dog. Hello everyone and welcome to... You did that again and I was making slappy teeth noises. Are we ready? Yeah. Okay, don't look at me.

No. Alright. I shall. Hello everyone. Sorry, start again. Hello everyone and welcome to... I feel like we're never gonna get there. Are you good? Yeah. It's you now. Hello everyone and welcome to Related Opinion. I'm your host Ellie. And I'm your host Emily. And that was

take 22 of Hi. Yeah, it was. Today we're going to look at true off our chest. If all you guys need those really wrong stories. Yeah, yeah. Some of them are weird. I mean, I saved one that's gonna really upset Emily specifically because of the title and I saved it without even reading it to start with. Went back to it. I love it.

I'm like, yeah. Right. They're great. I mean like, yep! Right. Great. I'm gonna miss this. Missing these wrong ends. Girl wants to steal my husband because she thinks he pays the bills. Plot twist! I pay them. Let her have him. Well, he might not want to go there babe. It's not really his fault. Alright, we'll see. Yeah. Okay my husband who is lovely by the way Okay. Yeah

He's a keeper. Yeah, he's a keeper. He used to have a day. Yeah Well, he used to have a big career but left everything to start something on his own His new adventure sounds fancy and all but honestly honestly it's eating more money than it's bringing in. Any, any and, hold on, any and, oh it's bring, for fuck's sake it's that roof, right, it is bringing, it is eating more money than it is bringing any in and it's a huge risk. However, when you hear about it you might think, damn that's a good business. We live a good life, not gonna lie, so I know how this looks. There is a family friend, woman that we kind of recently met,

always fine and respectful until she heard what my husband does His own business how much we paid for the house which schools our kids go to etc. Etc Information that has slowly come out over time She then started to directly and seamlessly Flirt with him and all. You know how it goes. Funny part is I'm the one making the money. Everything she likes in our life is what I am paying for.

My job is good enough to give us the life that we have now and allow my husband to take the risk. So jokes on her I guess. Would she start flirting with me if she knew? Gosh, I hope not. That's it, it's a very short one. I mean because of how my head is, how is this, how is she flirting with him? Why is this going on? It would be inappropriate enough for her to notice that she's heard. Clearly gone on too long already for her to be able to make comments about it.

And I wouldn't have someone like that sniffing about full stop. It's not that, it's nothing on him at all because by the sounds of it he's not doing anything to reciprocate this but I couldn't have someone that's... No but that is also the problem he's not doing anything. Yeah I get what you're saying. Let's nip that in the bud real quick because... Well I just wouldn't have that person in my life. No, that's gotta go. Right she's brand new to them so there's no point in continuing this road. I hope you or your husband put this person in her place. This needs to be shut down hard. Even if you trust your husband, this attack on your marriage and his character is still disgusting. I want wanna see if she's written back, I don't think Opie has.

Everyone's saying the same thing. Be done with this or put a stop to it. I wouldn't even put a stop to it, I would just not have this person. Yeah, done. It doesn't sound like she brings anything into the friendship. So, I mean, once she starts behaving like that, what's the friendship so I mean once she starts

behaving like that what's the point in having someone like that I wouldn't want someone like that round no so I feel uncomfortable all the time no thanks no you you want to be able to walk out of a room I feel comfortable that she's not gonna be left in the room yeah but it's funny isn't it because she automatically thinks that he's the rich one but it's not, well the one that's well off but it's not, it's the wife that's taking care of business. Weird. So what does she want to do? Get rid of the wife and step into her place? Oh yeah, that's what they normally do.

Yeah, she's doing something enough that the wife's noticing, so let's just buy... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. There's not really a lot to say about that one, it was short and sweet. Yeah, I just wouldn't have that person around me. And when they say why, I say because of your behaviour. Simple, isn't it? Yeah, we're grown-ass people here. And you're making me uncomfortable in my own home but I don't even need to tell her I wouldn't no

let her have this and clearly the wife respects the husband enough to not put him down and say actually since he started this business he's not do you know what I mean she's not like oh no it's me it's me, it's me. But yeah, I just think bye. Yeah. Okay. I stopped drinking and realized I don't like my girlfriend. Fair play. Beer goggles. Massive.

Basically, you just want the title. I'm in a relatively new relationship, about nine months. Although it hasn't been too long we've already had the marriage and kids conversation and I'm pretty much on the same page as it relates to timelines and expectations. I'm typically a heavy drinker about four times a week because I'm getting older I've decided to stop drinking and smoking to save money, prioritize my health and re-evaluate my relationship with alcohol. It's been just over a month since I've stopped I've

been much calmer, argue less and listen much more. It's been okay so far but really everything she does just annoys me. If I was drinking some of the things she says when she tries to argue with me, I would have argued back. Since I've been sober I just listen to her complain and try to draw me into an argument. I wait until she shuts up then try to change the topic to something else. We sit in silence a lot more now. The relationship has positives so I have no intention of leaving. It's actually the main reason why I stopped drinking and smoking. I also know you're not supposed to make any major decisions when you've just made major lifestyle changes. True. I also know these changes could be a big contributor to

me being irritated in general. I'm really just here to vent. Hoping it all works out in the end. I stopped drinking and realised I don't like my girlfriend. Erm. This is a difficult one. It's a tricky one isn't it? Thing is, he's bettering himself. Which is fantastic for you. And his life. You. You, not me. And I think, um... Rather than dumping her, why doesn't he just say,

can I just have... As I've stopped drinking and whatever, I just need a couple of weeks to myself. I mean, she's of weeks to myself. I Mean, she's not gonna take it well But it's not gonna go well if you dumped her and he's trying to not and he could say I'm not I'm trying to not make Stupid decisions and rush into anything. I think that I need as I stopped drinking I need just a few, just one week. I'm like trying to, because a bit of time away from someone really can make you...

Even just a long weekend. Yeah, exactly. So the top comment is like, please don't drive into kids and marriage until you genuinely feel differently about her. Remember, that is unlikely that you will be able to change her personality and that is unfair by her for you to even attempt that. Perfectly good bit of advice, pretty sound. Yeah. I mean definitely stick at doing you first. Yeah. And see if you can get that bit of time away, isn't it? A hundred percent. I think it's...

Let's see how you go after. I think he's doing immense, but if he goes back to drinking, he's going to end up taking her back anyway. Someone says, when I stopped drinking, I realised I hate being around anyone drunk. My lord, it is frustrating. I regret ever putting people through that shit. Drunk people are so annoying. So you know, as someone who's known an alcoholic in their life, you are different. Yeah.

I'm different when I've had a drink. Oh so am I. Right. I spend quite a lot of my life around drunk people. No don't. I think I'm quite a happy drunk when I'm drunk. I say drunk but I'm not a drunk. I'm a happy drinker. Yeah I'm actually what you call a classic binge drinker because I can go a year without alcohol. I'm in Covid I had one drinking Covid, but we're in two years What? We're in for two years of Covid Sorry, I'd like one Baileys. That was it the whole of Covid. I don't think I've drunk Covid Not because I don't particularly like the taste of alcohol. So it's not like um

I don't particularly like the taste of alcohol, so it's not like I avoid alcohol for any other reason than I get in and I'd rather have a coffee or a cold drink than I will. Except summer I don't mind the odd beer but it's difficult. Or is it like Shandy in summer? Every now and then just one? Just one. If I go to a pub or out with my friends then yeah yeah, I'm like a I'm like a proper binge drinker I'm like the more the merrier So I don't like being sick. So I try to stop just before then doesn't always work though

but One more I think giving it time sounds like a very good plan Have having said that please don't stick around if she doesn't make you happy when you're sober. Also, congratulations, I'm proud of you. Yeah, he's doing amazing. It's no easy feat to give up alcohol, especially if you've got like an addictive personality or it's a clutch or whatever. Like, you know, it's funny because I never used to really understand, but obviously the older I've got the more I understand that alcohol is just another dependency like me vaping or You know, there's many reasons people drink but yeah, that's not the podcast but anyway

Moving on and so I'm not gonna lie. I Read the title saw the warning and then per se before reading it because the warning was for Emily. I don't know why I do it, I can't help it but it's actually a really really interesting story. Are you ready? My 11 year old is obsessed with horror and animal death. Content warning animal abuse. Fuck sake. All that kids and animals. The whole thing but when I read it to you you're gonna be like fuck. Right I'm really struggling. Uncomfortable already. I'm really struggling and I don't know where else to turn. My son just turned 11. I didn't even read the comments because I wanted to read them together.

And lately I've been really worried about his behaviour and interests. He's always been a bit of an odd kid, really quiet and keeps to himself. A couple of years ago he started getting really into horror, movies and books. You're looking at me, I drove in horror. That's so graphic. At first, I didn't think much of it, but his taste has gotten a lot darker over time.

He's not just interested in the typical horror movies. He specifically seeks out the most graphic and disturbing stuff he can find stop looking at me if he isn't watching them he's reading books about them and about real-life crimes or drawing really violent pictures I don't do that a few days ago I noticed a weird smell coming from his room. I thought maybe he had left some food underneath his bed but when I looked I found a small plastic container with dead animals inside. What you're dead animals? We're talking small critters. Anyway, he even had a dismembered cat corpse.

Yeah, yeah, it's quite worrying this. I was completely shocked when I confronted him. He just looked at me blankly and he said that he had found them already dead and he wanted to study them. He didn't seem upset or defensive, just indifferent. Almost like he didn't understand why I was so disturbed. I lost the problem.

Yeah. They were already dead. Yeah. They'd be okay. Yeah, so I don't know if I believe that either. Yeah, I went to the cemetery, darkened up, he was already dead. This one time. No one would have known.

I tried to have a conversation about it later asking why he was so interested in dead animals and why he hadn't told me about finding them. He just shrugged and said he didn't think it was a big deal. He said he was curious about how things work on the inside and that it wasn't like he killed them. He said that they were already dead when he found them. I'm not sure what to think. He has always been a bit socially awkward and fascinated by weird stuff but this just feels different. I've tried to talk to him again after and a few more times but he either changes the subject or just stares at me like he doesn't get why I'm upset. I'm terrified that this could be a sign of something more serious. I just don't know what to do Should I take him to a therapist?

Am I being paranoid? I love my son so much and just want to help him if there's something wrong Has anyone else dealt with this? Or something like this any advice would be really appreciated this or something like this, any advice would be really appreciated. I'm not going to, she's done a little edit so I'll just say. It sounds like the kid needed a chemistry set, you know. I disagree. He sounds like a psychopath. Jeffrey Dahmer said exactly the same thing. Or some other serial killer that I've heard about where they want to see how things work from the inside. It's a very Pacific, weird thing that is very associated with-

You've literally gone straight into Jeffrey Dahmer. I'm not eating that. I mean it's great to have a curiosity. It's a little bit weird he's kept it secret and maybe because he, I want to say because he thinks maybe people think it weird but by what she's saying how he's reacting to it he's just like what's wrong with that. Which he isn't thinking that. That to me is the most concerning part. That he's got, I the most concerning part that he's got I'm struggling to believe that he's finding all these dead animals as well like I'm

struggling with all these cut-up cats and shit the cat would be my biggest like red flag there the little one you know anything you can find little animals dead in the woods and stuff. But you don't bring them home and keep them in a box, babe. Or you don't bring them home. No, normal people don't. Not one coroner goes, oh how did you get into it? Well, I used to collect dead animals and bring them...

No, that is how a serial killer story starts. Really is. And like I listen to them all the time, babe. Yeah. So, some of the comments. Go on. How is he able to seek out this disturbing stuff and watch graphic horror movies at that age? Can we end the horror movies?

Yeah, we didn't even touch on that. We were just like fixating on the dead animals. It's not a problem because I love them, my kids watch them. Like it's not, I say my kids, my young adults, I'm saying that now, but they were young when they started. It's not, to me that's not a problem thing. The graphic stuff is a bit weird. At the age, my son's father was monitoring

his online activity and what he watched. And then someone says for real where is the monitoring here? It goes on a few people like this. Someone said I'm concerned at how indifferent he is that is also a red flag. Yeah it's not normal babe let's not pretend that it is because it's not normal. It's not normal. And then someone said he's not even aware that he's doing anything strange. Life teaches you that strange. Yes. Yeah and I'm assuming he does go to school.

Oh. And there are... We've only got a therapist. Come on therapist. Therap therapist therapist here you absolutely Right and I just pass everywhere you're welcome if you just change these Right therapist here, you absolutely, don't fucking start, shush, absolutely need to get him into therapy like yesterday. I would also recommend a psychotherapist provider for him.

These are telltale signs of something larger at play. I would also be curious if you have any younger children or animals in the home, any living things that your son may perceive as more valuable than him. Oh, vulnerable than him. I should be a fucking therapist. Should I change my mind in September and go for therapy? Doesn't want to be a singer anymore, she wants to be a therapist. I'm going to be a plumber because I've already enrolled but I can change. Oh alright, Mario calm down. Mario, Mario go-karts. What was the? Right, anyway.

Yeah, just. I'm doing them all. What's happening? What was the right anyway? Mary I go can't be too much coffee. I've had a couple of six coke most calories. I've had a week Just a bit sugar in there. This is a About two big someone said underneath to the therapist this for the love of god all this um uh up vote for this like people are literally like listen to the therapist right i personally have never seen a cat caught laying around are you sure that he didn't kill the cat because killing animals as a child is one of the key characteristics of a young psychopath murderer although it's called anti-social personality disorder now he needs a therapy um i mean this one is right in all my 38 years on this earth i have never seen maybe two dead birds and two cats squashed by cars in the road.

Really? I've seen loads of dead animals on the road. Loads. On the road? Yeah, but you know, on that she's literally just sent four critters. Since we live. If you're in the city it's less likely than where we are, babe. The way we drive to work and that. I don't hit them. What do you mean the way we drive? No, way the way these square here I'd rather crash into a car then I'm an animal and I really crashed because it's when you're in a leaf goes across and I think it's a mouse where the kid knows where your boys go school and I used to take the kids down there and I've gone down there it's 40 in it so I've gone down there I'm at 40 40 my 40 my Peru and Peru and a fucking Fox ran out swerve to the other side of the road I was like you're meant to hit it and not swerwerve. I was like there weren't a car but even if there were cars I still would have hit the

other car and hurt that fucking fox. I'll tell you that. Don't worry about the kids. In hospital I'll be like did the fox slip? The fox is traumatised. Yeah but this person is right babe. When I lived in Wall, I don't think I ever Do you know what I mean? I might have seen the odd fox. So I get what they're saying Right. I've taken and somehow this 11 year old has stumbled across more dead animals than me OP your son is most likely lying to you. he needs more than therapy. Do you know, apparently, I'm pretty sure this is right, so do correct me if I'm wrong, that if you are a psychopath,

which is now apparently called something else, there is no cure. So you've got no empathy, you've got no, everything is nothing to you except yourself, you know satisfaction, making yourself happy but apparently if a child is discovered young enough to be a psychopath, they can be taught behavior that will get them through so they can fake their way through life because not everyone that has this condition is going to kill murder and all this sort of thing it doesn't always mean that but they can they can go through therapy and they literally spend their whole life in therapy learning how to pretend that they feel empathy, love, all these things, facial expressions, whatever, like they lie and fake their way through life to live a normal life. Don't you think

that's fascinating? I find that quite scary actually. Yes, exactly. But it's the same as a narcissist. They could be still doing these things but because they've learnt how to lie about it Yeah, but not a lot not not a lot Like I say my information is accurate on what I've listened to and read not a lot make it there babe So a lot more than more than not a lot of you know murderers kill animals blah blah blah in jail for other offenses You know blah blah blah killed kill the siblings yeah, but a

narcissist is Semi on the same path they do love and all these sort of thing like that's all real but the center of a Narcissist universe is themselves and control of other people so that's that's very different from a psychopath but yeah but the these characteristics this child how she's not picked up on it before she probably has but you know when it's your own child you're like they're just different. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I really don't want to. Oh, where's the dog? Wake up to the fact that I know this is not good.

I mean, everyone is like, your kid needs urgent referral. You're allowing your young child to what, it's nothing to do with the horror movies. It's not, I'm sorry, but it's just not. I mean. There you go. I watched plenty of horror films as a young youngin, so did my brother, my dad and my two brothers.

None of us have ever wanted to commit violence against animals or humans. That's what I'm saying. Like I really believe if you've got the structure, it's like you remember when they tried to play... I think when your brain works a certain way... That's what I'm saying. The danger of watching horrors is that you're putting the ideas into the brain rather than going, that's horrible.

But it's like when everyone jumped on the bandwagon of saying, I committed this offense because I play all these games and I'm a child like GTA and all these things and then for a long time social media, the news, all of this try to blame it on these games. It's just in my opinion it's just not true. I think obviously if you're if you're that way inclined. I think that's the thing. Then it's encouraging and giving you ideas. The problem more so now than ever before is there are so many neurodiverse things happening at the moment on the spectrum. Fine, are they though or have they always been there and been ignored?

And been ignored but where they're actually now a lot more out there and apparent and actually people being diagnosed left, right, and fucking centre, I think that they're now putting this into those boxes and being like, this is why these people have done this, because of, and the encouragement of those games and films and made those behaviours more real for those people, because they'd seen it and they were

curious about it or they enjoyed that and wanted to try it. There is a story, now I'm not sure if it's a real story or a made up story but apparently there's a story about people that did play GTA, went out and played GTA in real life, killing people. I think that was a real thing. I feel like it was. Those people were mentally ill and that's my point like they were maybe yes they led to do other things because they were in some sort of psychosis with the game related to the game or whatever but these things are never the problem so had that kid not found it that way he was going gonna find it another way eventually.

Do you see what I'm saying? Because the urges and the... So it may have been later in life or whatever, but you know, actually if anything, it's not a bad thing that they've caught it while he's young. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But great, like interesting thing and it's making me think the one we do with Keely, maybe we need to go more on the whole psychopaths and all that and crimes. They've like literally choose a neurodivergent thing and literally pick a case from each of each of that that would be interesting and explain what that means to be diagnosed as such Because I could go on all day about psychopaths

Can you imagine pretending your whole life through? Like everything is everything is a lie But so many people do that anyway, and they don't have to be psychopaths they like yeah, so many people do that anyway. They do. And they don't even have to be psychopaths. They, like, so many people do that anyway. I mean they do, but that is a full level of... The extreme of it. Yeah. It's like... What a lot of work.

And then what, do you go home and then close that door and then like just... No. How do you just let go? They don't let go because they don't feel it. And that's my, that's the point. There's no empathy, there's no love, there's no... It's none of it, none of it's real. There's no...

It's just a dead existence, isn't it? Yeah, but not to them. It is so if you're pretending. But you wouldn't, but my point is, you don't know that because your brain doesn't let you think, oh, I'm at work all day, I'm faking my way through this. Just, your brain isn't doing you think, oh, I'm at work all day, I'm faking my way through this. Just, your brain isn't doing, it's not.

There must be something still in their head that goes like that, you know? Gets the cat and. Oh, just the thought, do you know like, is it Mean Machines, the football film? Right. In the prison, you've watched it, Mean Machine? I don't think so. Where Jason... what's his fucking name? I won't know, just tell me the context.

Anyway, well, his character's called the Pope and he ends up playing in goal as the goalkeeper for in goal as the goalkeeper for the prisoner side but he's in for life because he's psychopathic and he's like a mass murderer. I feel like I definitely have seen this definitely but they suddenly flick into his head where he's just killed all the girls and he's rampaging and then he's like saves the ball that's what really happened. I do, I think that would make. I think that would be like what they'd be like. That's what I'm saying.

I think that whatever we choose for Keely, I think that if they're really good stories, we look at, and these people have got their diagnosis, I feel like we look at exactly what that means. I mean, that story, my head goes, oh, you know, it's healthy to be curious. No. It is healthy to be curious,

but the chances are you probably did kill the cat. Yeah. Massively. There are safer ways to be curious about biology. Nobody is it curious. Nobody I know. Right, listen, it's all very fascinating how the human body works, how animals body works, but nobody, nobody other than what I've listened to and read documentaries and the only other place I've heard how it worked

from the inside is literally from serial killers. Literally from their words I wanted to see how it worked from the inside. It's fucking weird babe. Who talks like that? Even my phone's upset. So what's the note. But you can go on the internet and find stuff out like that. I actually, before I move on, Google how things work on the inside. How my body works. There's no update.

There are books for that. There are literally books. There are models you can make. Toys R Us gets little chemistry sticks, where it's a little rubber frog, then you put it together, it's all like see-through rubber stuff and you put it together and you take it apart together and they've got a bat as well. Anyway, you know there are cool things where you can find out without actually using live specimens. without actually using live specimens. The fact that he wasn't bothered by the smell either.

I think, I think the curiosity isn't the worry, it's the he actually went and done whatever he was doing and found those things and that his reaction was like there is nothing wrong with this and he's not out of the ordinary and the blasé of it. I'm just far away deeper than you this kid is ill man. I'm with you with him probably does need a bit of help a bit of a lot of help. People literally everyone I mean it's sad that she hasn't she hasn't posted anything else.

She's probably crying because she probably knows. She already knew this before she came. She needed someone to confirm it. Yeah. She did say that wasn't a family member who people are gonna judge but it's not a personal. This is only nine hours ago. Right. She did write thank you for your responses I will get in professional help. So fingers crossed that I'm wrong. I really hope that I'm wrong and that he is just way too curious for his own good. Personally, I think that's what's happening.

I think that he's unwell mentally and if they're lucky enough, he will live a normal life but just have to keep an eye on his behavior that's what I hope for him but if not you heard it here first on Reddit I've read you the beginning it's a shame it's just a baby it is, babe, but there's not a lot of things that I've heard that end well with stories like that. I'm just not prepared to put him in that category, because it's just a baby. He's there, though.

What would you do if yours were doing that? I'd lose my shit. I certainly wouldn't be on Reddit, though. You'd lose your shit, and then what? I'd be like, mate, what are you playing at you... And if they were like nothing, what's wrong? I'm gonna be like you know that Kate you want me to get? You're fucking getting it! She might be getting a sphincter.

No I'm not. She will. Anyway. No I would, we would be going to the doctors. Immediately. We'd be like this is not okay, this isn't, you you know there's nothing okay with having dead animals this is wrong where's the empathy where is the compassion for these animals a normal reaction is that's really sad if i see a fox or whatever i'm like that's really fucking sad

that's the normal reaction from a human being to another mammal especially is empathy. You know what I mean? A cat especially, cats, dogs, whatever because they're... You've got me worried now. Why? Have you found any dead animals? No, but when our bunny died, my youngest was like, I'm really sad, can I have its foot? Yeah, but that is because of the lucky rabbit's foot It was a lucky rabbit's foot

No it's not So who was going to be cutting off your pet's foot? But that is not that weird because he's talking about a lucky rabbit's foot Because it was his pet rabbit He's not that lucky Did you know mum buried him? He's all buried That is sad. He was well cute He was a good boy. Anyway, we're moving on. Yes, we are

We're gonna have to because otherwise would be on it all fucking day All right. I felt betrayed by my best friend and still haven't forgiven her fair play Right, just just remember with we run true off our chests. No, no, not psychopaths and murderers. Okay, so I've had my best friend E since fourth grade and she generally is very funny and sweet. Definitely me. Will sometimes do weird things and have unusual priorities. Definitely me. And she goes around collecting dead animals. Yeah. I will also clarify. have unusual priorities. Definitely me. And she goes around collecting dead animals. Yeah. I will also clarify.

They're under my bed. That it isn't everything I remember, so some things are what I've told. I will also clarify that it isn't everything I remember, so some things are what I've told. Just keep reading. Yeah. Yeah it should come together. We were at this fair in September 2023 when I was 15 and she had just turned 16 so these are young people. Yeah. Now E really

wanted to talk to some of her dad's friends. So we did. Afterwards we laid down in the grass and talked. Suddenly I feel two hands on my boobs. They are pretty much non-existent. Okay. Not the hands, the boobs. Yeah, no I got that. And I flinched, looked up and saw it was one of her of the friends who was like 55 the fuck bruv We've gone from murderers to fucking pedos. I laughed it off because I was uncomfortable and tried to I've lost well Uncomfortable and tried to

Tried explaining to a why that wasn't okay. E pretty much said that it was my own fault for wearing a crop top and she would have done the same. Okay. Okay. She's being sexually assaulted, yeah. And her friends making it okay? No, E is being raped by these pedos. But E is also making it okay?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, she thinks it's normal. Yeah. Right, we tried to still enjoy the fair and we get drunk around 8 p.m. and E is so bad drunk. I remember going into a big tent full of people and that's like the last thing I remember clearly. So the rest is blurry. This is a 15 and 16 year old. In the big tent a guy around 28 if you ask E, hugged me and started talking to me. One thing led to another and suddenly we

were making out. He saw this and left us alone and this man took us as an opportunity. He suddenly tried to pull me with him. When I resisted he kissed me without permission and pulled me into him so I couldn't leave. I start yelling for help and another guy comes over and pushes him off me. I try to find E but cannot since she left. I end up asking security guards and we find her together. She sits alone in the middle of nowhere. I think we start to drink some more and I have to go to the bathroom. At least I remember E not wanting to go with me. I'm pretty sure I met some men on my way to the bathroom and they convinced me to pee in the woods with another man. I don't remember anything else, but the next month I'm sick, like badly sick,

constantly throwing up and feeling awful. I call E and she doesn't want to hear about my long-ass hangover. doesn't want to hear about my long ass hangover so I hang up. I didn't talk to Eve for a month and then my period doesn't come and I thought I may have been pregnant. I wasn't because I didn't recall anything from the fair. I call Eve again and she basically also blames me for that. I still haven't forgiven her for this but I've moved on. I just wish she didn't have these traits as well. Okay, okay. Right, so a couple of things here. First of all, E might be being passed round to all the dad's friends. It's weird. Yeah. But this bitch, right, not blaming her because you're not allowed to blame the fixer,

kept going off with me. So instead of the first instant when someone grabbed her tits, leaving and saying what the fuck, she then goes into a tent, starts snogging in, then decides snogging isn't okay, then gets convinced to go for a piss into the woods with more different men. More random men. And I'm not blaming her because she's just a young girl, like I get it, but I know E has to take some responsibility here, but doesn't she have to take some responsibility? Do you see what I'm saying? For herself, absolutely. That's what I'm saying, it's weird because she's like I thought it was gonna lead to even with she went to the field and she was with this but that wasn't what was

happening I don't think whatever's going on with E is not normal because you know he's not okay no I feel like something wrong is happening there but I feel like bad stuff happened to this poor girl and I really mean like I'm sorry like what happened to her but I do feel like red flag one when some random ass dirty old fucking grandad grabs your tits it's time to go I mean personally I would have had to or I certainly wouldn't have got pissed. I would have stopped drinking. Right. I said I I mean I personally am NOT a big drinker anyway we all know this but I think if you didn't feel safe I didn't feel happy with the situation. That's what I'm

saying. I would have stopped drinking. Right and then. And I know she's a 15 year old. Of course but then situation two wouldn't have happened you see what I'm saying. I would have stopped drinking. Right. And then. And I know she's a 15 year old. Of course, but then situation two wouldn't have happened. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, because you would have had your wits about you a bit more than what she clearly had. But she also said, went into the tent, don't remember anything, next thing I'm snogging some bloke, then I try to leave, he pulls me back, we snog some some more and then I'm done with that and then call for help

Right. Yeah, because she's clearly panicked right herself If well hang on a minute what's going on, but she hasn't stopped there. That's what I'm saying So then they drink more she finally I'm sure she's on the field. She just floating about In a drunken day not realizing how much danger she's actually the field. She's literally just floating about in a drunken dance. Not realizing how much danger she's actually in. And then a mold bit of consciousness comes in and goes whoa hang on the fuck. Yeah. And then she's like I need a toilet and then she's swelling off and then. Yeah like I say I'm not trying to like shame her or anything but I do feel

like this I'm gonna have to give her a little bit here. There's a reason why you should be 18 and plus drinking. We can't say that. Listen, we can say it, that is the reason. Yeah. I'm not saying that's the way we relived, but. No, the thing, the other thing here to talk about is when we were drinking, we were in a big group and we did look after Trevor, and that is the truth, babe.

We did, in our groups. Oh, I didn't drink a lot, I have to still admit I was never really a drinker. Even when I drank I was always with somebody, I was, do you know what I mean, who was never going to let some dirty tramp put his hands on my tits. Imagine Jenna. Honestly this is a very bad story. Anyway I feel like I'm coming across as a bit of a bitch and I don't mean to be. I just feel like she kept putting herself in like repeated situations. It's like hello. You like got your mum head on. Yeah because I'm like really?

You're still there? But anyway. You know this was only last year. Yeah. Or two years ago. Why are you not calling for help? I don't know. Where's your phone? What do the comments say? Let's have a look what people think. I read a little bit but she went me up in the comments. Oh, okay. The OP. So the first one says, first and foremost, you might need to report the arseholes you were hanging out with. Right.

OP replies with, the ones I met on the way home to the bathroom? Question mark. And also, thanks for the reply. No, every single one of them. Yeah. So then they reply back saying, yes, and the dude you were making out with, he took advantage of you. The OP then says, yeah, that dude is definitely fucked up in the head I don't know what he could

get charged with though he didn't really get away with me I mean maybe the kissing but that's probably only one month or something unfortunately yeah she did you're a minor. You're right. You're a minor. Even her story was like, what the fuck are you talking about, but yeah. Also, try talking to a therapist. Such experiences often fuck you up.

And I'm sorry you had to go through it. Yeah, people being nicer than me. Firstly, never hang out with her again. You're not safe with her. Secondly, be careful when you get drunk and who you get drunk with is an unfortunate reality but not everyone will protect you if you ever hang out with anyone when drinking and they leave you alone never hang out with them again hello aren't safe with them

and if you know who the guys are from the words report them. OP. First off all thanks for the reply. I don't know what they report these guys for because I don't remember much. Maybe they were fine enough people. I don't want to blame them for something that might not even have happened. Hope that makes sense See well while I'm getting a little bit annoyed. Yeah, listen the first bloke that grabbed your tits is a sort of a minor And if you're in America is till you're 18 Yeah Top 1% comment is it's an unfortunate lesson, but don't leave yourself vulnerable like that

again. Protect yourself. I don't feel so bad now. Yeah, it was really stupid of me and I regret my decision making fully. I know I put myself in that situation, so that sucks. I feel good, I don't feel like such an arsehole. Because I felt like a bit of a bitch, like I'm blaming her, but that's not me. No, like you have, at the end of the day, the only person that's not like you have and in a day the only person that's got you is you yeah and if you're with people hopefully they got you too but

you still have to look after number one yeah I mean I hear that because if you don't look after number one how can you help someone else yeah the truth is I've been blackout drunk have not even a handful of times right but it's always been with either you lot or Taryn that's it you have been with people you have felt safe I know that I'll be protecting won't be left won't be missed about with me we all know do you know what she don't normally get like that so we've got her yes and we all take turns doing that exactly exactly it is our turn to get off her face well Well done you yeah sick

Let it go. Yeah, yeah fantastic. We can think of you and Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it, but I'm more likely to get right so normally like for me I've got this weird thing so I get a very numb nose and front teeth It's very weird, but that is when I know I'm at the best level of drunk. They go numb, I know I'm in a really great spot, not too drunk, I'm not, I'm over Mary, like I'm perfect. But sometimes I'll go beyond that. You see you get a little trigger warning, I don't get a trigger warning. Do you know Alfie gets it as well, Harry doesn't, Alfie gets it. I don't get a. I get a triple warning. That's why I must

eat before I drink. If I don't I will feel good good good good and then go yeah. It's normally how it happens to people. But I feel it happening that the down. Yeah. That it's too late then. I hate it when I take it past it because if I get to that point I can wake up and be fine the next day. If I to eat. If I go past that, then it's always a mistake. But normally, I don't. Just sometimes I need to, but I know that I'm with people that are going to look after me and have looked after me from about 13 years old. Younger when I lost my front tooth, but that's a different story for a different day.

My point is, we've all done stupid stupid things but not with a bunch of dirty old fucking pedos. No. And anyway that's it. Like I'm done with that. I see it that. Moved on from her. Yeah because it's slightly irritating. It's a little bit of a silly little girl story but um Right. Just protect yourself. I like this one because I feel like it will eventually have a positive ending. I like this one because I feel like it will eventually have a positive ending. Okay? You'll understand. I, 22 female, wrote down the main things my boyfriend, 23 male, for the past two weeks, for the mean, sorry, the mean things my boyfriend does, 23 male, for past two weeks so I'd be motivated to leave. Okay things he says one. Wait what whoa she's reading her list. This is her list. How long is

her list? Err that paragraph. One we wouldn't have half the problems we do if you just would listen to me and be more submissive. 2. While working out, he told me... I don't know why she's gone on to number 2 to be honest, I think that was enough. Yeah, but let's be honest babe in the past both of me you and I going okay. Two, while working out he told me to shut up while I was just excited to tell him stuff. Three, told me he wouldn't fix my car because we're not married. Four. Flowers are just pretty and that's it. Nothing special about it. Oh my god. Five. Told me I can't say his last name for no reason. What? Yeah,

so she's not allowed to just say his last name. There to be reasons okay what was I on five six you're still going yeah told him I lost ten pounds so far and he said good job won a cookie in a sarcastic voice seven asked him for his unopened energy drink can because he tried mine which was the same flavour and didn't like it. He told me no, he's not giving it to me because I don't need it and then continued to say how he cares about my health, felt like he's just trying to control me. Hey told me he didn't want to be in my lame videos. I'll run him over. No asked him to hold me while we were just sitting on a bench and he said why we're sitting down. You could have done this at any point. Ten!

I said, I'm cramping and he said, yeah, you said that. Eleven! Walked in a room asking where the broom was and when I said I didn't use it last he said, you've been home for a week, how do you not know? He had forgotten that he had used it last night and proceeded to say that I had an attitude. And finally number 11 I asked what my back looked like since I'd lost the weight and he said wide. May I add that I haven't left because I need to save, but I pay all the bills.

So change the fucking locks. And then he doesn't come back. I actually didn't save that to wind you up. I saved it because that is the first time I've seen a woman go there's reasons what are the reasons and wrote down the reasons. I really need to think about this because all the good things he does makes me forget. But it does and you know what it's like to be with someone that can make you forget all that shit that

happened last week and then it's gone and you're like oh well you know and you make excuses she is trying to change things by saying no he is a black and white copy of the reasons this man is a crack meth head thought I'd add that in you know what I'm saying I liked it because I don't think that she is just talking I'm gonna leave him't think that she is just talking, I'm going to leave him. I think that she is Kieran herself reminding herself constantly why she needs to get out of there. Someone said get out before it's too late.

OP, how do I save money to pay all the bills? It's difficult. You stop paying the bills and go and stay with family, friends at a shelter or live out of your car but fuck all this noise. Like what are you doing? Anything is better than this. Someone said breaking the lease means she still has to pay the rent. It's true. Some people are like don't pay the bills. We all know it's not that easy. It's not. Not paying the bills. But if she's paying all the fucking bills, change the fucking locks. Right, someone said what you said. You pay all the bills and he's over there treating you like that, tell him to get the fuck out. OP, his name is on the lease,

I pay rent, electric, water and Wi-Fi. That needs to go on the list. He pays his car, insurance and our phones. So he pays nothing for the property and if she's got proof for that, change to fucking locks and get him right. So he pays nothing for the property and if she's got proof for that change the fucking locks and get him off. Right so Lees aka America you actually I don't think you can. No no no no there is there is definitely a law that if you can prove that you pay it consecutively every month and it's not late or anything like that and that other person has not actually put anything and there's proof that they've put nothing in it you can have them removed. Talk to your landlord to get him out of the lease. Tell them he's abusing you because he's verbally abusive. Yeah and he literally was on Tinder a week ago. What the fuck, man?

This poor girl. I can't be mad at her babe because I do feel like finally she's like, what am I doing? We have been dating for one, look, you're angry, your feet are going. We have been dating for one and a half years now. I've caught him on tinder lying watching porn. I just thought our history could help. Nothing is going to help babe.

His clean clothes have been in the basket for eight days now on his side of the bed because I won't put them away. I hope he doesn't turn violent. He sounds like one that would just turn violent. He's gonna pin her down and put baked beans on her or something, he's gonna do something freaking disgusting. I think, I'm not mad at her, I can't be mad at her baby. She knows, she knows, she knows. Yeah, she knows, but she's not protecting herself. But she's doing a lot more than most women

that we have read about on this Reddit, Fred. It was going on Reddit, right, and the fucking list isn't enough to protecting herself. But she's doing a lot more than most women that we have read about on this Reddit thread. It was going on Reddit, right, and a fucking list isn't enough to protect herself. But it's more than what most of the women do on, when we read their stories, they don't go, these are the reasons I can't stay. That's what she's done, and that is more than most of the stories we've read.

You've gotta admit it. Most of the readers are like, I mean, smack me in the face, she's not about to love him. Like, that's the crazy shit that we read. Oh, he had an affair, but I forgave him. All this stuff. She's like, these, here is some of the list of the reasons is a massive cunt and he's got to go, right? Yeah.

And you need to check your pH balance and go get yourself checked girl. Yes he is the worst she knows it but she is also being financially abused I don't know if that's a thing in America. I don't know I don't know what the legal system is like there but I do know here she would be able to have him evicted removed from the property for abuse simple as I don't I don't know what the deal is but I do wish her luck oh my I do and I'm glad that she's like here are the reasons you know I like that I'm glad she's got reasons and I'm glad she's seeing them but she needs to protect herself. She does, she does. It's sad. It's actually sad babe. Some of those things on that list

though, huh? How's my back look? Wide. I punch him, I would punch Paul straight in the face. I've just lost six pounds. Like your nose. Fucking wide. Yeah, and I said to Paul can you check, yeah, lovely babe, right, he says that about everything anyway but if he went like your nose. Fucking wild. Yeah. And I said to Paul can you shut your mouth. Right he says that about everything anyway but if he went like something like that straight in his face. It's like a hurry time. It's wild man. I've got cramps yeah you said that. Yeah but you know he's a cunt. You know from the first one baby you're like like right right today change the locks like you just know But now it's kind and the difference is we do know what it's like to excuse behavior It's easy to excuse behavior when you're in love or whatever bullshit, but she's coming out of that now

I've got high hopes for this girl coming out of that now. I've got high hopes for this girl. Okay moving on to the last vile story. This is quite a gross. I saw. This has got a content warning of sexual assault and remember we're still on true off our chest so this is someone that needed to talk about it and we're here to listen and judge and talk we're not judging no one's judging i try not to i feel like i judge about that poor girl our opinions of based on our own personal experiences okay fine let's just keep that clear okay yeah it's just an opinion it's just an opinion and how we would have dealt with it. Anyway, I quit my nanny job and I can't bring myself to tell my mum why.

Okay, it's gonna be really bad. I feel like I can't talk to anyone about this. I can't think about it without crying. I don't know how to deal with any of it. I had a job looking after a child of a family friend. Oh, it's already bad, isn't it? Yeah. The child isn't a baby, but they're still pretty young.

I was originally supposed to work as their nanny until the child was old enough to go to school. My mum knows the kids aren't and I've babysat for the aunt before which is how I ended up getting the job. The dad has a job that allows him to work from home but most of the time he is stuck in his office all day so I really only ever see him in passing. If I spent any significant period of time with him, the mum was always there. He never gave me a reason to be afraid of him. I didn't really think anything of being alone with him in the house with the little one all day.

The few times he came out of his office to handle the nap time routine or to play for a little while. He didn't really talk much. I feel like I'm over explaining myself. I don't know. A few weeks ago the little one fell asleep in the living room just before I was going to put them down for a nap. I decided to just get them comfy on the couch and work on one of my midterms. The dad came out of his office at one point and sat down near me. It was fine at first. He was reading a book. I was typing on my computer and even thought the silence felt a little uncomfortable. It wasn't really bad or anything. I don't want to be specific about what happened, but he pushed me down on the floor and I didn't do anything to stop him.

I just froze. I said no a few times, but I couldn't make myself run or fight or do anything else. I just couldn't stop thinking about the fact that this child was sleeping four foot away from us. I thought about how scared they would probably be to wake up and see their dad hurting me like that. So I didn't say anything else. When it was over I called the mum. I said I had

a family emergency. I needed to leave early. I didn't tell her the truth. I didn't say anything to the dad. I left. I feel guilty for just walking out like that. I haven't gone back. I haven't answered any of her calls. My mum is kind of mad at me for quitting in such a rude way but I don't know how to tell her or anyone about this. I don't know how to deal with it. I'm either crying or feeling nothing and it's making me feel crazy. Every time I think about it I feel like I can't breathe. None of this feels real but it also feels very real at the same time. I'm sorry if nothing makes sense. I need to just get it out and I can't make my brain work properly enough to be coherent. There was an edit. Don't read that yet. He raped her

Yeah, I'm devastated for her The right thing to do is to go to the police Massively, yes, how long ago? Seven days ago this was put on I mean if she hasn't washed anything the evidence is still there because If she hasn't washed anything, the evidence is still there. Because he might do that to someone else. Even if she had washed, I mean, how long did it, it stays in your system. I'm not talking about in her, I'm talking about on her clives.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He literally raped her in front of his child. In front of the baby. What the fuck is wrong with him? He must be like literally scoping her out. Waiting for the perfect opportunity. I don't, man like listen I get, I don't, listen she she's probably going through it's my fault blah blah blah all this shit but the truth is it's not your fault there's

something seriously wrong with this man you didn't do anything wrong and he deserves to be in jail. It's not your responsibility to hold a family together. This man needs locking away. Makes me feel sick. All right, Eddie. I saw a couple of people say that there was a post a while ago from a mum wondering why her nanny quit and I haven't seen it but from what has been said about it I don't believe that situation

is about me. I got tested a little while after it happened but I didn't go to the hospital to get an exam or anything like that. I'm fine physically I think. Thank you for all your kindness. I didn't think anyone was going to see this. I made a throwaway because I didn't want anyone I know to find out about it. I'm sorry if this is kind of all over the place. I don't really know how to talk about anything right now. I just don't feel like myself anymore.

She needs therapy if she's not going to. She keeps apologizing. Yeah because she's been fucking assaulted by some skank. I don't even know what to say man like this guilt she's holding for no reason at all. There is no guilt there. But I thought that she should be. I can't put my up. I just I don't know it just, I don't know. It's like, I don't know.

Yeah it's bad. So bad. Top comment. Start by telling one person, someone you trust wholeheartedly. Like a mum. If that's not your mum, maybe it's your aunt, your best friend, your sibling. When you speak out loud about it, that first time you'll be able to do it again and then again. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed. This is traumatic and horrible and not your fault. Eventually you need to tell the police, this man is a predator. You may not be the first or last, he does this too.

The next one says I love that OP started telling one person they trust us. This seems silly but it's a great step. Many SA victims can't even admit this happened. I think she'll come around soon, just needs time to process with what's happened. She's a brave person for having written here. Lots of people. She'll only be young, babe. She'll only be young babe, she'll only be like 18. Yeah. And he's like ruined the rest of her life. Even she will get over it and she will carry on with her life and have a fantastic life because that's what she deserves but that creep will just have that tiny little little bit, I'm assuming it's the same. She, she, pretty much everyone is saying the same. Yeah, thing. People are saying like they felt, they felt this in their soul, they've had

this stuff happen to them. There's a few stories about what's happened to other people. OP has not responded to it. She feels guilty and she also doesn't understand that She didn't scream and shout because she was trying to protect that little boy as well like honestly gone so she Repart replied to this. So someone says sweetheart. He raped you You are a victim of what sounds like a vicious rape. I don't think I'm allowed to say that word, am I?

Oh, we're on the podcast. Raps, okay. Yeah. When he did this to you. You're thinking of TikTok. What he did to you is a crime, he's a predator. I'm sorry, you are not in any way at fault. You didn't do this, I need you to know that.

Speak to someone, anyone. You said midterms. Do you have a teacher? And this is the first one she's responded to where she said, my college has an SA rape crisis centre. I keep contemplating reaching out to just for a counselor or something but I'm afraid they'll report it and I don't know if I'm ready for that. They're not mandatory, they're not. They're not, they're not. If it's a child it's different, she's not a child. It depends on her age, my college.

It sounds like she's in America. Yeah. But college could, is high school. College is 18. In America, because don't let some of them go to. College at 18. Pretty sure, 99% sure. She said she's got, she's replied to someone saying

that she hasn't texted. 18, 19. What, in you, in you, in US? America, yeah. Said that they go when field. 18, 19. What, in you, in you else? America, yeah. Said that they go when they're 18, they finish school. Yeah, I want to tell my mum, but I can barely even admit to myself that it happened. It's good that she's come here, it really is good.

I feel like this has got to be one that you keep and that you occasionally look, because I'm hoping one day she's gonna be like, I reported the, see you next Tuesday, and he's, do you know what reported the see you next Tuesday and he's do you know what I mean I can't believe he did that to her and I wonder what he's saying to the wife because the wife's going I just don't understand it why would she just leave yeah I don't know dear weird just let it go do you know what I mean like you know that this

Do you know what I mean? Like you know that this bloke is like... Yeah, or worse, he's making up a whole bunch of like, I didn't really like her, she used to come and like watch me, like made it... Lay in the foundation. Yeah. That she was a bit of a predator on him, like I've just made that up, I don't think I just did the fact that um literally everyone he did it and thought there was gonna be now unless he thought it's gonna be my word against hers it's very strange that he did that without any fault of consequence because it's not like he's a stranger and he raped somebody random.

Do you see what I'm saying? Like he specifically targeted the nanny. It's well bad, isn't it? It's really bad. And that actually they've got connections. They're friends of the aunt. I mean, everyone's saying the same thing. Everybody's saying the same thing. Everybody wants her to report it. Go back up to that one, two, three. We'll see what the three key points were there. First, you've done the right thing by leaving right alone.

You were raped and you were a victim full stop. Second, if he did that to you, he is hurting his wife more than likely. The fact that he had no qualms committing a sexual assault in front of his child, this guy is a monster there. There are a few places you need to contact. One, the City Police Department has a victim service program. They offer a dearth of services. Report him, let them document what happened. It is likely he is a repeat offender and they might do a rape kit if it is offered. Do it. Child protection services. This child's father committed sexual crime that carries felony charges he should not be around children three his

wife if he isn't harming her or their child she needs to know what he is doing now so she can get that this child somewhere safe right listen and although I agree with everything you said, that's a lot of, the last one is like a lot of responsibilities put on this girl, she's just trying to fathom what's happened, right? child wasn't involved in the act, that child was present and he comfortably did it in front of that child. That is one of the most scariest things about the whole... And... The whole rape was disgusting, but that is one of the most disturbing things.

As someone who was there looking after that child there is the fact you know what's interesting as well when he although she's clearly just a child herself when he came into the lounge she got the feeling straight away yes it that like I was a weird feeling. In the silence. Yeah. That he just thought, he just come in and sat down and read a book near her. Yeah. Without saying anything. Like that's weird. Yeah.

That is weird. That is weird. While she's like on her. The fact that he did that in his own home as well. There might be evidence on the carpet, on the floor. Yeah. Listen, the amount of shit that is going to hit the fan if she chooses to report is so immense. There's an actual click down button because there's that many. It's going to be really difficult no matter whether she keeps her silent, it's going to be difficult. If she speaks up, it's going to be difficult because that is going to tear everyone apart. So she's either going to be difficult. If she speaks up, it's going to be difficult because that is going to tear everyone apart.

So she's either going to be called a liar. But she's going to be called a liar. Yeah, or she's going to be believed. And either way, it's not an easy, because in her mind, she's like, I'm going to destroy their family, but he already did that. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, she didn't do that. This isn't an affair. No, no, no. This is rape. This is rape. This isn't an affair. No, no, no. This is... Rape. This is rape. This is a man choosing to... Oh, it's frozen. Yeah, fine, I get it.

I mean... Is that enough? It's a heavy one to finish on, but... You're sorry. No, no, I actually, do you know, when I think about it, I think sometimes when we finish on the heavy one, it's better than starting with that, do you know what I mean? Because it's right at the end of the podcast and you trigger warn so if someone doesn't

want to listen to that they don't have to do you know what I mean? I just hope that I don't know I just hope that we come across it and she's good. I hope she makes the right choices for herself. That's it. That's all that matters. About everybody else. Either way I hope she gets therapy. Yeah. That's it. Like that's all that I hope for her and then whatever She decides to do the rest of that. That's totally up to her I do wish that she'd get a rape kit and just store it because you don't even in America you don't even have to Use it they can do it and store it So as far as I'm aware I'm not sure if that's true all parts of it but from what I've heard you can it can be stored

if you're not ready to do you know what I mean but yeah man so on that note we hope that we read just great things about your life one day or that he's in prison good do you know what I mean? We'll say like follow and subscribe. Oh yeah like follow and subscribe and we really appreciate it but either way we're gonna continue so yeah I enjoy it therapy it's our therapy. It is. It is. We have a right love. It so is. It so is. Right, peace out guys. Be safe. Look after yourself. Ahhhh! Fuck's sake. Every time I go ahhhh! No, now you have to say I need to go to the toilet. I do need a wee. And my legs. And my legs. Oh my bladders are not as good as they used to be. Well it's not good! I'm really old! What do you think of that? What don't you think of that?

Well I think that girl has got everything she deserves.