Middle-aged opinion - If you’re going to cheat, expect revenge

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

Today we talk about people who have been cheated on all people that are being accused of cheating and how they got revenge or they are simply looking for advice on what to do with constantly being accused of cheating come and join us as we try and find the light aside of cheating

Wow. What do you think of that? What do you think of that? What do you think of that? What do you think of that? Could you please pass me a coffee? Which one? So we're back on cheating. So we're back on cheating.

Cheating. Not that we know any of the stories. Right, I need to open Reddit. See? No, it's not in there. I need to open Reddit. See? No, it's not in there. Excuse me. Did I say that? I don't like this bit going up like that.

Yeah, because it cuts off your face. I can't get mine to stay at all, so I've completely been gone. But yours doesn't pick up mine, and mine doesn't pick up yours. gone yeah but yours doesn't pick up mine and mine doesn't pick up yours in the sense that it's all around it's picking up all of our sound i need to just have a listen jingle bells batman smells robin blue i started singing that yeah we're both in and then the kids were like it's not christmas yet but nearly Christmas it's five months no why did you say that well actually I told them it was uh 42 weeks oh dang it I'm hiking her way oh my god right saved did I save one

yes I'm so warm today yeah I was freezing this morning i do have the one and the other right yes so we are we are literally where we left off last time i was freezing as well i've been hot and cold all day so then i had a bath and then i got in my fur onesie i was freezing and then obviously i had to get changed and come out but i've been all right since my bath really yeah like once a year bath shocking fair onesie that's how fucking cold i was in the house it was 13 degrees i was like that's freezing we're back to winter again i know the whole thing again right you've got to go again babe i've got mine again i actually haven't finished mine nor did i get onto the update oh no did i get up to the update and

then we realized that we were this close to finishing yeah my update yeah right ready yes hello i'll go posh again yeah hello everyone and welcome to middle age opinion i'm your host ellie and i am emily and today we are looking at cheating yeah was it revenge cheating well we've got revenge cheating i've actually got one come am i the answer but cheating is cheating if you're cheating we're going to be talking about it yeah yeah no matter where we found it we will say what's up reference your fringe it's to the side yeah look at your fringe yeah what how long it is the fringe i like the fringe today yeah what i didn't want it in my face

i wasn't i was like no because i washed my hair yesterday i'm doing my tonight sorry guys i'll be doing mine again before we go out saturday oh i don't know what i'm wearing yet me neither i got three more dresses out and i was like no no maybe no maybe i'm now thinking looking at the weather maybe a long sleeve dress rather than a... I've only got one. ...strikey. They're more winter, like more winter things. The colour.

Yeah. Yeah, they're like dark and gloomy, or as I want to be, poppy. Poppy. Don't forget you'll be in the Barbie box. Shh. They don't know about the Barbie box yet. Yeah, but it will be been and gone by the time. They don't know about it yet. Okay, I'm making be been and gone by the time they don't know about it yet okay i'm making a barbie box it's amazing i think we will try and

include pictures of that uh yeah uh yeah uh yeah we'll find a tick tock that actually includes some sort of box that you have to get in yeah that's not a bad idea we're gonna do um the tick tock hello my name yes did you see that one i sent you the other day where every hour they do a little jig and a spin touch the ground stand up and they do it like every hour every where did you send it on insta or tiktok it's i think i'm gonna have to go through no i don't feel like i was like yeah if if every two hours my alarm went off and i'm like dance and everyone just it's going to be paralytic we're going to have to check

and make sure that everybody that we record is happy to be on why don't we just do our girls I from that because they've already given the permission haven't they my boys lot I reckon they'd all be alright with it yeah no they're all alright they're cool

it's whoever else is going Like, my boys, I reckon they'd all be all right with it. Yeah, no, they're all all right. They're cool. But it's whoever else is going. Yeah. Because that's how I roll, yeah? It's how I podcast. Yeah, if you ain't in, you ain't in, brother. If your name ain't down, you ain't coming in. No, it's better to go, if your name ain't down, you ain't in no it's better to go if your name ain't down you ain't coming round that sounds better all right don't you think

yeah oh i really want us to do this by the way well i'm gonna get what from i'm really sure he's got a pink one i'm gonna get a rusty i think helen's got a pink one we'll borrow it. I'm really sure. Or maybe I didn't. Are you taking the piss? Which one was it? Yeah, no, all of them.

I'm like, yeah, let's just do them all then, isn't it? No. Since we're acrobats. This one, this one. Here we go. Okay, still, yeah, still going at 7 30 one down nobody can do it oh one they haven't even started yet

a bit of ass yeah i'm into it i'm like, we could do that. We could do it. So you need to explain them. It's like, this is what you've got to be doing. Right, did you want to start? Yes, let's do this. Let's do it. Okay. Because I just want that done. Right.

So, ultimate revenge on my cheating girlfriend and boss. Let's go. Let's go let's go never been read before okay good or what to me never heard never never heard this one not actually pre-read this one three times yeah we had technical issues we saw out like one issue like yeah yeah the sound quality and there was so the first the first time the phone just switched itself off and then the second time it switched it did it switch off it turned itself into slow-mo no sorry that's what happened the first time it didn't we didn't plug into the microphone so it was like the first podcast with just us talking to the phone the second time it switched off about

30 minutes in but from 11 minutes it was slow-mo and there was no way of knowing what had happened or how to speed it up it was very bizarre but move it we moved we moved on we moved we were like we'll do this again another day yeah and here we are and And rock and roll. So basically, five to six months ago, my girlfriend cheated on me with my own boss. It was terrible and soon become the most embarrassing thing of my life. I worked at a supermarket with everyone's boring lives. It soon became the talk of everything and really made me struggle mentally. Key things I'll add before I explain why I took revenge out on him. My boss was in his 40s, married with children and would boast about cheating on his wife to the work boys with the way he would describe his

main tactic as trauma bonding. My girlfriend had BPD and was easily manipulated and persuaded by him to receive fake promises and promise to faster promotion. We are both 20-21. So basically I set up a fake Facebook profile and acted on it for a week or two before I joined the local community page doing posts and responding to comments he was interacting with. I made it out like I was a newly single mum and new to the area. After one month before getting his attention, I slid into his DMs and started messaging him and flirting with him.

I already knew a lot about him in terms of hobbies, interests and sporting teams so I made everything easily relatable to form a strong trusting connection. I had him hooked. I had him moving over to Snapchat and started catfishing him with photographs from online and exchange, he started sending me nudes, exposing it all. I mean, I'm into the revenge mode. So I'm fully invested and happy. But seeing that. I mean, we've seen a lot, babe. We get a lot of Snapchat.

But knowing who it belongs to is even funnier yeah anyway i saved them all in my chat uh so on snapchat you can see when it's been snake can't you yeah and left them there to build the truck i also let him do the same to the photos I sent after I had enough to ruin him I let to ruin him late I changed my username and name on both profiles to a younger female staff member who used to work at the shop and screenshotted everything I saved over 20 photos of what he was sending and logged a complaint with HR of the company. I even faked a Gmail email to make the user more believable and when they called me on the phone I had a female friend take the phone so it sounded very legit. Work for a

large company so you have the option not to do it in person. I also sent screenshots of the messages and sent the nude photos of him cheating and sent them to his wife, his mum and his sister. I truly wanted to ruin this man. I wasn't done then, I printed a bunch of posters with best Chewbacca impression wins $100 with his phone number listed below. I couldn't imagine how many phone calls he would have received. Anyway, to date, I have been told he currently has been terminated from his job from people inside the shop and that he has also, judging off the conversation with his wife on Facebook she has kicked him out I do not feel one bit of guilt at all maybe I'm psychotic but nothing can

describe the pure hatred I had for that man as for my ex she tried to get back with me but I had have let her bleh but i have left her in the dark and i'm much happier without her i won't be seeing uh seeking any revenge on her i am i love the revenge you do love a bit of revenge i do love a bit of revenge um i don't think she should got away with it just because she's got a bipolar disorder is no excuse to be an utter slag um i think uh he took it to the to the right level i do what does reddit think reddit uh top comment was savage um second was based i don't quite understand that one of the young words uh then someone says congratulations you're a piece of shit yeah and probably a liar keep up the good work yeah so that's somebody that's cheated on their spouse and uh had someone did

revenge on them so they're upset because that person did revenge, and they don't like people that do revenge? Was that the only comment? That's the only negative, well, that I can see anyway. Yeah, so, you know, I don't know why. If you do something to someone and they get back at you, that's within their rights, you know what I mean? Did he take it a bit far? Some could say, but but because she weren't worth having i give you no shame what did what you did

was public service he was a sleazebag and deserved far worse yeah public service because what's he gonna do take an std home to his honestly he sounds like an absolute scumbag. That's what I'm saying. So I say yay to the to the revenge. Yay! Well done. Yay! Is that sort of that sort of level you wish I had done? I do but then I also like I also I think your level of restraint was something i've never seen before but it's different people isn't it i mean even though the funniest part of it you didn't seek revenge or do anything but yet yet he told everyone that you did so either way yeah you know what i mean so you know listen i think um i think if you do something to someone expect revenge if that person doesn't do revenge because sometimes it hurts more to not do anything but this bloke was a serial cheater putting his missus at risk so he did her a favor of nothing else you ready yeah uh so this is from am i the arsehole uh but it is a

cheating story right okay so am i the arsehole for telling my husband's affair baby family to either come and get the kid or i'm calling cps yeah you haven't heard this one before i do not know this one you don't know this one my female 53 soon to be ex-husband roger 47. every time i say that name i'm like mate uh no no offense to all the rogers out there who um whom i forgave for his affair came home with a baby four months ago his girlfriend 22 could not handle it anymore and brought the baby to him at work and left the to the best of my knowledge she is in spain i allowed him to stay as long as i didn't have to do anything anything well about a month ago roger had a heart attack it didn't kill him was the pain karma literally but he is very weak and incapable of doing anything for him for himself since he he isn't up and about he cannot care for his child he also cannot drop off or pick up his son at daycare I've been helping but I'm done

my kids are fully grown I shouldn't be having grandkids anytime soon I do not have any desire to care for a baby I told Roger that I want a divorce and I confronted the mother's parents. I know the father, hold on, I know the, oh, I know the father through friends. I said that they had until Friday to come and get their grandchild, or I'm calling Child Protective Services. They just left with the baby, but they scolded me for being so cold towards a baby that has done me no harm. I view that child differently. Roger is recovering and I will be moving out the house. It is in his name but I have no, I have never contributed to it. I have the equivalent of 22 years of rent interest put away and as per our prenup my savings are my own. I work and I don't need anything out of this marriage except myself. My kids tried telling me to stay and help their father. I said that they are welcome to come over and help him with cleaning himself and the baby.

Both declined. What I felt was a fair offer. I do not feel that I am acting badly. However, Roger, our children, his family and a few mutual friends think I am. Perhaps writing this out and seeing the responses will give me some clarity what do you think of that i do have an update i don't i don't think she's been an arsehole at the end of the day she's an older woman because she's got older kids right she's done her time right you know do you say her kids have left home yeah they're fully grown they're fully grown they've left home yeah yes she's done her time he is a

baby isn't any sort of relative to her not not at all this this is actually not that Charles fault but this is a small person that is the result of something that probably broke her I think that's when she actually left the marriage from from reading this i think that you you're right i think that broke her and i think that she kind of switched off and left the marriage and then the nail in the coffin was the baby the baby has to rock up okay right great yeah but i'm not looking after it yeah fine especially like and that still hasn't changed for her i mean he may be sick right but some of our listeners will know as you know i know like looking after someone after i look after my husband he's had numerous strokes and he's both

mentally and physically disabled it's not easy it's no small fleet to look after somebody the easier part is that i do love and i'm in love with him which makes the difficult parts worth it yeah that's what i'm looking for um but if he had betrayed me i mean first of all you would have been gone straight away but that's neither here nor there but if he had betrayed me and then you've got to look after that person it makes it 20 times worse i don't think she ever and then potentially the result of that betrayal you've got to potentially look after too yeah you've got to raise that raise that yeah yeah i don't think she's in the wrong and i think if the kids care so much for their half sibling get the fuck in and sort it out yeah right um the first comment before i move on to the update is not the uh let me get this straight

no one is upset that the real mum took off to spain we've had this conversation yeah leaving her kids i think it's just as bad when a father fucks off as a mother. Yes, it's slightly worse, but it is the same thing. Yeah, at the end of the day, a parent has fucked off. Yeah, it's devastating. It's going to be devastating for this kid, but it's happened. I don't think we need to be... The worst part of that is actually she left that baby with an older parent because clearly he's older.

Yeah, he's 40. He's not that old. He's 47. That's seven years older's older yeah he's 40 he's not that old he's 47 that's seven years older than we are babe that's not that yeah when you're 47 and you've got a brand new but you've got a baby yeah yeah i mean a lot of people having their babies in the 40s now so i don't think that's a big job i a big jump i actually think she's too mentally young to have had a baby and because he didn't leave the wife and set up home some people just aren't fit to you know but anyway i don't think that's i understand that this uh writer is saying you know we're not we're not focusing on it no because that is not what she's she's not the focus no she's not the focus she's out the picture right and quite clearly

that's where she wants her to be as well, because let's face it, would you want to be talking to her? No, I don't think I would. No, no. But, you know, I don't think I would have taken him back. Anyway, update. For telling my husband's affair, baby, to either come and get them or I'm calling CPS.

I am no longer divorcing Roger. Who? There was complications from his heart attack and he has passed away. Shut the front door. He's died. Oh, no, no, no. He's brown. Yeah, about that divorce.

Yeah, I'm conflicted. Don't worry about it. Yeah, he's dead. He was the love of my life but also a cheating piece of trash fair yeah fair uh to the best of my knowledge the mother will not return from europe the child is currently with her parents they asked me what uh they asked me what i wanted to do i recommended um adoption not that i am adopting the child that they put the child up for adoption they didn't like that suggestion neither did my children she's not very good with this is she i'm making

these suggestions i feel like everyone's like it's all your fault with this, is she? Making these suggestions. I feel like everyone's like, it's all your fault. Anyway, this said, I am being cold and cruel. Oh, no, sorry. They said I'm being cold and cruel. I suggested since the child was related to them and not to me, that they step up. Neither have accepted this suggestion either. Funny that. neither have accepted the suggestion either funny that i was the snuts i was the sole beneficiary of roger's estate so it's part yeah yeah what baby um so i imagine lawyers will be involved in getting the child some sort of support.

I will pay whatever is ordered by the court out of the estate. I will not pay one cent out of my money. Fair enough. That is all I have to say on the matter. Someone suggested getting a paternity test. Oh, absolutely. To make sure. So that's easily done.

We know Roger's gone, so you can either take a swab before he's buried or you can do it with the siblings. So what do you think about that? I still don't think she's in the wrong. Don't understand how somehow this is all her fault. Like, really it doesn't think it's her fault. It's not yeah the guy's passed on okay sorry about that sorry not sorry someone said unless there's some weird loophole where probate feel

feels the ab is entitled the baby but it says ab ab, ABC, you know, people, to the estate, then it also opens the older children to a share too. So that means all the siblings would have to. I mean, I'm not being funny, but if she was going to divide it between anybody, it would be probably her own kids. Yeah, and if this baby is his, then fine, she's happy to do that because she was ready to walk away with nothing from rogers so i i feel like she still feels the same however he left it to

her they were married a really long time he cheated he fucked up um he died unfortunately he died and she's been left with all the shit. Like, she somehow has anything to do with what's happened. She's been left to deal with this. It's absolutely outrageous to put it all on her. And literally nobody is willing to help. And these siblings, like these kids of hers, either step up or shut up. Yeah, nobody is willing to help. Not the arsehole.

Absolutely not. Yeah. Right, we're over to you. I wouldn't be getting that maternity test done. Exactly. Yes, I would. Exactly're over to you. But I wouldn't be getting that maternity test done. Exactly. Yes, I would. Exactly. Just to clarify.

You know, at first I didn't even think about that. But you're right. Why not just take a... I mean, I know he had an affair, but who's not to say she was going elsewhere as well as... That's what I mean. So, you know... I'm not saying that she definitely did but you know happens yeah exactly i mean she's 22 she sounds like a young 22 to need to off to spain

and start her life again best life ever that's where we went wrong um but i think um i think there's no harm in making sure but if they they take her to court, you're right, each of the siblings have to take a cut. Yeah, absolutely. But from what you said, it sounds like she was prepared to do that as long as it didn't come out of her money. I don't think she cares about the money. No. Not at all.

This isn't her problem. I don't understand why everyone's like, this is your problem. It's absolutely not her problem. It's not her problem. Right, over to you okay next so caught my girlfriend cheating and now she's mad at me yeah of course she is because it's all your fault always yeah always yeah i just need a place to vent so last weekend i caught my girl cheating my god my god the gift i caught my girl i'm gonna start again yeah i just need a place to vent

because last week i caught me good so last weekend i caught my girlfriend cheating she was coming out of a bar with another guy and then they started hugging outside and inside of a car this lasted for about five minutes as she pulled off that's a long fucking hug a long hug maybe you know like maybe it was a hugging can we have a cuddle which wasn't really a cuddle it's still a long hug babe yeah it's long as she pulled off to leave i stood in front of the car well that's stupid isn't it it's embarrassing before she could drive before she could drive off her jaw dropped to the floor and i walked away she then calls me and is mad that i lied to her about being at work that night i left early yeah and using her location to find her at a bar with another man yeah i what an arsehole what a creep yeah i told her she is just trying to flip the wrong she did on me when she was the one out cheating she says she didn't. Earlier that night when I was leaving work because I felt

ill, I called and texted her. No response. Then I sent her a text saying emergency. She called back in two minutes. I told her I feel really sick. I left work early and I tried to drive home but I can't. Can you come and get me please? I'm on the side of the road off the interstate. She said no I can't. No. I'm at a pool party and I've had something to drink and I don't want to drive. I can call you an Uber or something. I was really disappointed and just slept on the side of the road for a few hours until I felt better. This was around 11pm. At 2am I wake up, no calls or texts from her so I called her when I started to feel better. Hold on, what have I done? That was making sense.

Yeah, yeah. He slept on the side of the road then he called her when he was so i called her when i started to feel better when i noticed she was still out by the sounds in the background um she got mad at me for expecting her to drive to help me on the side of the road when she said she had had had a drink and at that point she is yelling saying I was at a pool party and I had had a drink I offered a solution leave me alone about it I'm on my way home I found it very odd she was yelling at me for something I needed her to help with. I've never asked for help at all in the three years that we've been together. Plus I noticed her car sounded like she was parked somewhere so I pulled up her location that she shared with me years ago but never used. She wasn't on

her way home. She was at the bar with some dude. When I got there around 3 a.m. and saw them together by the car I took pictures and video of what I saw she now is trying to deny that I saw what I saw and she and said I violated her trust and privacy by stalking her basically coming to where she said she wasn't and and says she met met him that. All she did was hug him goodbye and when he tried to kiss her neck she pushed him off. From my video it didn't happen that way. They were hugging each other for minutes and it looked like they were kissing. She denies it and refuses to accept what I saw denies it and refuses to accept what I saw with my own two eyes standing right behind them and with proof. She now says I was in the wrong and is mad at me. How is this possible for her when I am the one that is mad and should be pissed off? Okay she wasn't at a pool party she went at the pool party he was really unwell needed

some help she wasn't interested he then went to her location she wasn't interested over a guy she just said she'd only met that night right really then she um then he went there because he's like, something's going on. And then he sees her grabbing, cuddling and kissing. And he recorded it, but he's in the wrong. Dump her right now. Like, right fucking now. Get rid. Yeah, because she's trying to make out like it's all in your head, but it's not.

It's all fucking poison head but it's not all fucking poison right there she sounds like a narcissist yeah yeah no you didn't see that yeah everybody saw it no no we were hugging we only met that night yeah why are you hugging strangers that's weird yeah i mean when we meet people you're right but why is she in a car if she's had a drink because she never she went to meet some bloke i mean it's all a fucking lie babe she's a massive slack bit of a narcissist as well trying to like turn it back around on him like he didn't see what he saw yeah i'm not being funny like stalking her hang on a minute you're at a bar uh party right right was it pool party um so yeah he's

rocking up at a bar why she's there yeah how's that stalking well listen it doesn't matter it doesn't matter even if she was at the pool party he saw what he saw and her priorities if that was my partner and he was that ill that he couldn't drive i'd say i'll grab an uber i'll come and get you and then we'll go home. No matter how paralytic. Yeah, I'll be in that Uber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, she's busy meeting the next... Dump her.

How long ago was it? Ten months ago. Click on eSingbop, see if there's any updates. Get off. Some things matter. I feel sorry for him. She's lost it in the net. She's been me all day. Nothing. Something about spiders no we're not worried about spiders hang on what's this one same one

no it's just someone fine someone's yeah so that's my thing he should dump her and move on because she is just nasty yeah yeah he can do better it's sad but you know if he sees something and she's trying to twist it that's you're looking at some a narcissist which is dangerous territory so you it's easier to walk away while you can do you know what just yeah walk away don't even entertain no you saw what you saw yeah don't even fucking entertain it like let her be all crazy about it right that's the only thing you can do anyone else wants to come at you about it you go well do you know what what do you reckon of that yeah yeah tell me yeah and even even if he wasn't crazy she still chose a party over he was so ill he couldn't drive yeah pulled over yeah and slept in his car that's what i'm saying so enough said

because you've got to ask yourself where am i in your prayer it's not like she was out the country she was at a party everybody would have understood i've got to go he's really ill he's had to pull over anyway moving swiftly on to the next cheater found my mother-in-law cheating on my father-in-law five years ago what do i do what yeah hi yesterday my fiance's grandmother she is she is the mother of his father yeah that makes sense hang on should i go again go with it no go on right yesterday my fiance's grandmother yeah she is the mother of his father right yeah yes g-i-l grandmother-in-law i don't know what that means g-i-l girl-in-law grandmother-in-law grandmother there you go that makes more sense grandmother-in-law shared with me that my mother-in-law shared with me that my mother-in-law cheated on my father-in-law oh this is complicated yeah but you understand yeah yeah she told i hope everybody understands she told me not to tell my fiance but i did oh dear yeah your nan told me that your mum cheated on your dad. Is a right slag, yeah.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I think I know what's coming. Oh, no, hang on. I haven't read it, but I've got a feeling I already know. He wanted to tell his dad, but I'm worried about his dad's well-being. So he called his grandmother today and talked more about it. She should never have said anything it was before he was born and she heard reports now you've just gone where i've gone that's where

i was yeah oh okay from my mother-in-law's co-worker about her cheating grandmother-in-law believed that father-in-law probably had no knowledge of it still I'm getting a little bit confused he still doesn't know right okay yeah yes yes sorry you just thought it was all getting a bit much right she said that they had lots of issues in the early years of marriage and she just let them work it out and said it would be cruel to reveal this when they are doing okay she also says it would ruin her own life if we revealed it i'm assuming because she kept it from her son because she has kept it a secret she is mad i told my fiance and says that she will not tell me stuff anymore since i told him this we feel like she is worried about the repercussions she might face if we reveal this to my father-in-law because she is his own mother

she hid it from him as far as we know mother-in-law is unaware grandmother-in-law knows my fiance feels really compelled to tell his father i understand why but i'm afraid that we will ruin his dad's life his dad has had a lot of bad things happen and i feel like this would just be the icing on the cake oh god i also feel like it like it is possible he may already know he believes in never having a divorce and throughout the years she would leave hours early to work and arrive home late i don't even know why i'm laughing because it's just it's unbelievable we don't know if he ever confronted her about that it's possible he chose to turn a blind eye. As of now, we have said nothing to father-in-law.

We really want to, but we are worried about his happiness in life. What would you do? We want to tell father-in-law and grandmother-in-law is worried he will hate her for not telling him and we are worried that he will be extremely heartbroken and depressed go it's a fucking shit show huh oh well i mean there's by the sounds potential that he may have some sort of idea i feel like he knows not specifically about that affair but maybe he does know but doesn't know how many other people know right i mean his mum right and how long it's been going on i mean why

is she leaving so early and coming back late? And potentially, maybe he's got an idea and maybe he's like, let her get it out of her fucking system. Yeah, I mean, they do say he doesn't believe in divorce. However, I don't know. If I got told that about Paul's mum, I mean, she was not a very nice person, so I probably would have told him straight away around Christmas dinner. Yeah, you probably would have.

I don't know if I would have. I don't know if learning that information is 25 years after said event is any of my business. And if you told him, what are you achieving achieving is any good going to come out of it no but then if i think of me if i think 25 years into my marriage which is only five years time yeah have i then i and i didn't know or i did find out i'd be like wow i've lived a life for 25 years yeah so i don't think you can do right for doing wrong perfectly happy at this moment in time and all the shit's happened and it's gone and you're over it and you're living your best life right now i'd still be really

fucking mad like i've been living a lie yeah but but if you were in your good place right now... Yeah. And you didn't know... Yeah. Do you really need to know? Probably not. But if I found out somehow, some way, and then found out Tom, Dick and Harry knew...

All your kids are grown up. Yes. You and your partner are having the best time together. You're reliving your youth together and whatever. However, babe, time together you're you're reliving like your youth together and whatever however babe if i think you're not being 100% parent the problem is if i did ever find out and my kids knew my mum knew all these people knew yes you are in for a fucking shit show mate because i'll tell you it'll be a rough like no ever you've ever seen so that's what i'm

saying you can't do right for doing wrong in this situation it is one of those it's a fucked up situation that other people knew before you knew yes i i mean who can you trust yeah you can't you can't but that's no one there's no one left This is the fucker of the... Of the fig. So, you know, should they tell him? No. Should they tell him? Yes. I don't know the answer to this one.

It will really... I don't know. Because if you don't tell him now, you must vow to never tell him. But then you live with that. Yeah. For the rest of your life. You're only getting drunk one day. Yeah.

Not to mention, that poor boy, the way he's going to look at his mum. With that. Yeah. For the rest of your life. You're only getting drunk one day. Yeah. And you're like that. Not to mention that poor boy. The way he's going to look at his mum. Yeah. I don't know if she had the right to tell him. I think it would have been better if she didn't tell him. I get why she told him. But perhaps if she didn't mean on saying anything to the fireman. She should never have told her husband.

Because now that is his burden not only did his own mum know what she did but now her own son his own son now knows so that's betrayal on on the most important people of your life right so the first the top comment his own mother didn't tell him yet you feel compelled to you can tell him but be prepared for the repercussions of that perhaps it's best to find out what kind of marriage they have that's what you were saying maybe though maybe they were in fact seeing other people um at the time and they ended up patching things through have you asked your mother-in-law because grandma never actually saw her cheat only heard from an from another person and that she was

cheating it's definitely weird that grandma is cool with an outsider knowing this yes it could be manipulation i didn't even think about that the old mum-in-law um but never actually told her son what she had heard so i tell you what i think is best to do speaking to his mum what mum have you ever had an affair sit down with his mum private they've got time so i need you to come over sit down privately his mum tell her what's been said and you tell yeah but do you tell her by who you don't have to say by who you say i want to know i've some information has come to me i want to know does dad know blah blah if you lied to me then you've already made the decision of what i'm going to do if you sit down and you talk to me rationally and tell me about your lives back then because nobody knows yeah somebody somebody's just said your husband should have a conversation with your

with his mother before deciding on whether or not to tell his father there you go there is a lot to learn before deciding a course of action if she is if she still is she still cheating has she confessed to her husband does she regret what she has done and other questions that's exactly what come into my mind yeah i mean going straight to your dad who knows but if you have that conversation with mum she might as well she might well say yeah dad knew we you know we went to counseling we fixed it oh wow what somebody said i think the op should get a dna test and find out if he's actually related to his grandmother or not mate so now this this person's painting her as a proper

fucking slut that's where my head went i'm not being funny oh so mine mine did go there when i went oh my god i know where this is going because the affair was before he was born so i did i went straight there as well shit he's he's not i know i forgot about it as we as we went through the story but yeah that is literally that when i went oh my god like i think i know where this is going but yeah perhaps um it sounds messy um the whole i feel so i actually the grandmother should have kept her fucking mouth shut if she didn't want it to go anywhere. You can't just tell random strangers. And whether these people are engaged or whatever.

Maybe, like, you're right, maybe she was pot-stirring. Like, maybe... Yeah, maybe it's made up. Maybe she's now making her grandson question whether that's even his dad to create some sort of shit show between him and his mum and dad to make mum and dad then go at each other just crazy mother-in-law shit i just think the whole thing is a fucking

shit show no matter what happens going forward nobody's gonna win in that situation nobody's winning and that's a really sad story yeah it's actually really fucking sad and that's you know we talk about it a lot on the podcast about cheaters destroying families and here we go so you are not just talking about two people that are married you're talking about this generations that's potentially not cheaters destroying the family because mum and dad still together yes it's people putting their five pence piece right but what i'm saying isn't about them it's not their business if she has an affair you're talking about those two that generation the generation underneath but the generation on top is all

fucked because somebody couldn't keep their legs closed or it's a big fucking lie and then still the grandmother's gonna get cut out somebody so either way either way travesty and upset yeah it's ugly it's ugly ugly situation no no there is no win because if it's not true the grandmother is a shit-stirring bitch who tried to destroy her grand her grandson's stabilization his life right now if it is true his mum's a slag his dad might not be his dad his grandma knew about it and kept it from her son the whole thing is a shit show so best of luck mum and dad could have like he could have already known they could have fixed it and nan's just chucking a pot stirring fucking comment that just didn't need to be said yeah this was six days ago your

mum and dad hadn't like had an affair and they're still together she should have kept her mouth yeah this was only six days ago so i'm gonna keep it in the box and hopefully we will get an update and then we will just quickly run through this again and then go back to the i know that's the thing it's because of the way we are with cheats but i just actually the whole it's really sad what's coming so i do feel quite bad for this grandson yeah how how fucking shit upsetting yeah okay okay moving on next okay my girlfriend cheated on me and i found out about it in the most brutal way imaginable okay well we'll be the judge of that yeah we'll let you know is it brutal more worse than this we'll see we'll see splitting it into a post and a common owning to reddit character uh character limit okay uh tldr uh tldr i do know that i know i know that too but i can't think

the love of my life at least i thought she was was caught cheating by me after returning early too long didn't read oh that's daft daft. Say it again. T-L... No, no, no. Put it into the sentence. T-L-D-R, the love of my life, at least I thought she was, was caught cheating by me after returning early from a business trip. Too long didn't read. Yeah, it's a weird thing to put there.

I don't know. Yeah, anyway. Anyway, I, 25 female, too long didn't read yes weird thing to call there i don't know yeah anyway anyway i 25 female and my now ex-girlfriend 26 female were together since we were 14 and 15 respectfully We were each other's first everything. Our relationship was a near fairy tale for the most part. She was the perfect girlfriend I could have asked for. A few abbreviations over all these years i don't know in form of arguments none your regular healthy couple couldn't relate to with and sorry i'm about to eat a scrap because I want to move to another. And as infrequent as they could have come, are all that kept in from being a perfect relationship?

I hope your next sentence is a bit more. If not, skip to the next, cut this out. out to set the context we recently celebrated her businesses previous quarters financials with a vacation to my konos don't know this was in early october just over a couple of months ago just over a couple of months ago. It was all perfect, as perfect could be. Our relationship was in cruise control. It was all solid right up until the end of October of this year. She used to surprise me with those weekend getaways,

dates and gifts, nothing too fancy, but just about enough to make me melt. Then none of it for well over a month, nada. She initiated physical intimacy the most out of us both. She always had a higher libido than I. Again, none of that was for over a month. I had no reason to suspect anything and just brushed it off by attributing it to her work stress. She's been working her arse off for the past six years to build the business that has finally started paying off its dividends. changes in the status quo of our relationship. What sucked out of the most by far was an incident that happened earlier in November. She was out for a night on a pub crawl with her girlfriends. Soho pub crawls are kind of a ritual with them. The usual chinwag over drink she wanted me to go along but I couldn't as my local football team was playing that evening and being a season ticket holder I rarely missed their games, if at all. That being said, I've joined in as well as sat out these calls multiple times over the years

she almost always um what's that word equated quaternized to me being at at a football game over almost any event that ever clashed with it. Okay, so then I've got a red flag, hashtag one. I get back home just around midnight after heading over to my sister's for a couple of pints after the match. She texts me she'd been late and asked me to not stay up and that her friend let's call her a would drop her off i i stayed up anyway and text a who who's their group's designated driver by the virtue of her sobriety. Imagine my surprise when A said my ex-girlfriend had left the crawl earlier and had informed her that she'd be taking a cab home, much against her girlfriend's protest.

Her cab finally pulled up in front of our house at about 2am. Oh dear. I went in for a kiss when she got back home. To my horror, she turned away and made her way to our bed and passed out. Never has she ever turned down a kiss from me up until at that point in time. I brushed it off to her being absolutely pissed, drunk and let it slide. The next morning I asked her about returning home in a cab even though A was supposed to be dropping her off. She responded by saying that she couldn't stay there any longer owing to a terrible headache and decided to book a cab back home so at so as to not want her girlfriends having to call it's an early night now it takes a maximum of an hour to in peak London traffic to get over to our house from

Soho if her timeline is that time of the night. If her timeline is to be believed, she was in the cab for almost four hours. She could see me trying to piece it together, but quickly went in for a kiss. My naivety, coupled with love, took over and I went on with the rest of my day without giving it a second thought red flag number two fast forward three weeks I tried getting on her Instagram to delete a story

featuring me in an embarrassing post that she posted and teased me over. We had always known each other's social media logins and passwords to all devices. I tried logging in to her Instagram by putting in her username and password to no avail. She got a notification and knew I was trying to log in on her account. and knew I was trying to log in on her account. Gave me a weary smile and revealed she's changed her password in anticipation of me trying to log in and deleting that story. Fair enough, I would go on to accept this version. What I couldn't really wrap my head around was led me to believe it was much ado about nothing second half is in comments what do you think about that so far I think she's cheating and

she's moving on out of the relationship and she keeps on about naivety i just think she's still in love with her and hasn't realized what is the what do people think this is really long yeah uh so the first bit is she isn't sorry she is sorry she got caught right uh she was never going to tell you end the relationship and get away from her as fast as you can yeah she wants a cake to eat it too yeah everyone's saying the same uh if you don't if you if you didn't come home early this would still be going on right so she is really only sorry that she got caught yeah you deserve better i'm assuming these people have actually read the second part of the post i think um i think you know if you look at it like this i think if she um decides that that's acceptable and to carry on then it's going to carry on the cheating and

whatnot or she leaves the relationship and moves on with her life which in my opinion is the smart thing to do okay so there are yeah two more red flags yeah and she's also called them d-day one and d-day two right i'm gonna skip some of this because it's actually a really really really fucking long post yeah but just to give a little bit of clarity yeah i'm gonna so these are quotes yeah that the op is saying babe are you okay why are you looking at me like that and why is the shower running partner says you were supposed to come back after Christmas. Words cannot express how gutted I was the moment she would utter these exact words after us being apart for weeks. Oh my god. Who the fuck's in the shower? Yeah

somebody's in the shower. Just as I was about to tell her i finished my work earlier than expected i hear a girl's voice calling out her name from the shower of course she did my legs started shaking at the very much at that very moment something i'd only ever seen other people write or say was happening to me we burst out we we burst out crying i slumped again the other one's been caught i slumped against the wall by the bathroom as it started to dawn upon me that the supposed supposed love of my life a girl with whom I'd envisioned growing old was about to jump into a shower with another girl yeah she rushed in asked the other girl to get dressed and escorted her out of my too late now love too late dot co dot UK

I barely got a look at the absolute vixen that turned my life upside down and uh the she devil from whom my ex-girlfriend decided to throw away over a decade of memories i'm going to skip a little bit further down yeah it's not the other girl's fault we've got a picture right oh wow yeah then do we the aftermath she admitted to having slept with the other girl the absolute wrenched woman woman she met with on the pub crawl on multiple occasions she wouldn't let me leave the house we split the rent and instead moved out to the guest bedroom to give me space. I haven't so much as let her touch me ever since that fateful day. Fair play.

Fateful day or morning. She doesn't know that I know about her plan or what's left of it to propose to put to propose to me oh my god i kept trying to get her to open up over why she'd sell our future for a meaningless fling but all she has to say for herself is that she doesn't know why she did it it doesn't sound like it was a fling if she was seen or on multiple occasions yeah it sounds like it's not like yeah yeah uh she completely cut off ties with the other girl i allegedly cares yeah i know for a fact that she was nothing more than a fling you don't know that don't darling that's what she's told right more than a fling to you don't know that don't darling that's what she's told right yeah i don't think i can ever get over the betrayal uh this uh immense what am i looking for here i am almost

certain that i want to leave her why haven't you left yet honestly and it's the disrespect of she's actually brought her back to your home oh yeah you're right every fucking time yeah no they weren't going off to this other girl's house they weren't going to no that's in your that's holding me back is the fact that i will never love any other girl the way i love her okay fact but you're loving better stay there and hopefully they will she doesn't love you like you love her. Because she's cheating. This could perhaps change. But if I were a betting lady, I'd not bet against it. There will always be that what if I'd given her another chance. Then she'd cheat again.

She'd cheat again, babe. But she would do better. Yeah. In the back of my mind. No matter which girl I end up with in the future if at all she seems to be truly remorseful of her actions she's been an absolute peach of a girlfriend before this uh arguably more so than i ever was oh don't doubt yourself it makes me wonder if i'm to blame a wee bit you know everybody goes through that baby you went through that it's normal has anyone here been betrayed by who they thought they'd

uh millions love of their lives and yet went on to live out that happy ever after together. Never. I'm dead inside. Literally the story before. I'm dead inside. Talks about what happened. Devoid the tears. At this point. As I write this. And ask myself.

Whether I was really not good enough for her. Feel like I'm lost in life. That's really sad how she's ended because she's literally... But she is in that moment right now and she will... Planning herself. Yeah, but you did. The thing is, you do like... You know what it's like?

It's like being on a roller coaster. Sometimes you're up, sometimes you're down. She is going to be all right. It doesn't feel like she's going to be all right, but she is 100,000 million is going to be all right it doesn't feel like she's going to be all right but she is a hundred thousand million percent going to be all right and better for not having someone like this in her life because in the back of her mind she is always going to be worried that this bitch is cheating on her yeah and she did it in the worst possible way she didn't even try to like keep it separate from her life that was gone. She brought her back. So there's pictures. She was talking about pictures. She shat on her doorstep.

Yeah, there's pictures in the house. There's fucking, you know, all that stuff is hers, and yet she brought her there anyway. So be done, move on. Easier said than done, but you will be better off for it. Has anybody got any advice? Yeah. Hopefully it's get rid.

I don't know, I'm trying to get that thing so one person says she wasn't remorseful of her actions when she was orgasming while flinging another woman well true um she's only remorseful now that she has been caught absolutely and has to deal with the repercussions yeah i'm sorry but you are an absolute fool for forgiving that person yeah please remove her from your life and give your heart to someone who deserves it you can love someone this much yeah this that's who you are a person who loves and is faithful it will be stronger different kind of love that will not change based on who you fall in love with don't fall for her lies yeah she will do this again and hide it better absolutely exactly so

someone then says back to it but you are an absolute fool to forgive this person. I haven't forgiven. Oh, she responds. Yeah. I haven't forgiven her and I don't think I can. It's just that the memories of over a decade are absolutely overwhelming. Listen, everyone has their best times with these people. And that's okay to remember and it's

okay to get sad over like remembering yeah it's part of that process but at the end of the day for her it's not the same as it was so you have to leave because she can't treat you so she's afraid of ending up alone if when i leave her if and when i leave her and that i'd never be able to love another girl like her which would be unfair you can she thinks you can and you will love again this is a lesson we all learn in life don't let her this fear hold you back from moving on uh thank you that's encouraging she will just change everyone is just saying get the fuck out of there get rid of it right that's it manipulate yeah she will be better for it and it will be you know she won't be she won't be okay for a while but she will be okay do you know what it

is a process some people do it everyone does it differently some do it quicker some yeah some people have to do certain things yeah get themselves some people get angry she sounds like a calm relaxing person a bit like you do you know what like to help me get through stuff i did meditate yeah i did take to the gym yeah i i did keep myself busy but i also gave myself time on my own as well i needed to cry because i'm a person that does cry i need to process for your and oh my god did i talk about it yeah i had to repeat it yeah i mean 25 000 times and i just was lucky that i had people who were willing to listen to that same story over and over again yeah you need to just process it out of your brain and that's okay and i completely accept i had some brilliant times with my my ex-husband i did yeah and despite not to mention the wonderful

children you have together do you know what i mean yeah but i did have a good time with my my ex i did we had a great relationship when it was good i used to think he was a great man and he as much as he has quite openly i believe um said how awful our relationship was yeah we were married 10 years and we got together five years prior yeah to get married so i don't believe it was no sometimes but that's what i'm saying the way that he dealt with it that way yeah and i dealt with it the way i sometimes people go to a negative place because it's easier and more comfortable to be in that place because then it justifies the reason why things are ending yeah yeah me i've never as far as i'm aware he hasn't cheated on me i but you not just

about cheating about other things I go for a down and out for about three days and then I bounce back and it's either with aggression or with a plan something like that everybody is different and that's okay and she will she will be okay so I've

got one just to finish us off it's not that big but I liked the title and I thought it was a bit different. Boyfriend accuses me of cheating every few months. Wow. Now I know straight away what you're thinking. Uh-huh. Which is why I went for this one.

And we're just finishing off with this. So for a bit of context, I have been with my boyfriend for three years. And the first few months, we were really good. Until we did some recreational drugs together. During the come down, he started saying I had one of those egg vibrators inside of me okay I told him he could check inside of me and check the drawers to ensure I didn't know she had drawers inside of her he could check the drawers to ensure i hadn't put anything in me and that i really did have drawers she really have drawers inside of me maybe she meant drawers in her knickers maybe

she's saying it's in the drawers her knickers oh maybe that's what she i'm thinking drawers like you know that's what i'm saying yeah under my armpits yeah i'm thinking bedside cabinet where you keep all that stuff. Yeah, drawers. Anyway, sorry. To ensure I haven't put anything inside me, and the one... Hold on. And one in our drawers was still there.

There you go. So I was right. It was drawers. Not a knicker drawer. Yeah, it was a chest of drawers. Actual chest of drawers. Yeah. He refused to do so and just ignored me.

Fucking bizarre. He just wanted to argue. How is she cheating if she's using a vibrator? Is the vibrator called something? Does it come on a man? Anyway. Dave. Yeah, I'm losing track.

Dave the egg. Yeah. A few weeks later, he started accusing me of sleeping with his friends. Dave. Dave. The egg. of sleeping with his friends dave dave yeah that um that he let stay with us for a while while he was at work i have not once cheated nor thought of cheating on anyone so i immediately tried to tell him i didn't do it and tried to give as much proof as i could he refused to listen to me whenever i tell him that i haven't cheated

and will only listen if i admit to doing it even when i know i haven't i read i recently left to stay at my parents for a bit to get some space and get my thoughts straight. When I came back... She's not sure if she has or not. When I came back... Oh, my God. Oh, please. When I came back, he pulled condoms off the air conditioner and told me I put them there. What the fuck?

Maybe air conditioner outside. That's how Americans have it, don't they? No, an air conditioner, you know, you have them up on the ceiling on the ceiling don't know the top of the wall the air cons is it like that in america i don't think it is no they're boxed in the windows aren't they they're boxing that that's the outside bit that's the vent part okay um three years hold on sorry that just threw me what the fuck the air conditioner and told me i put them there i have not used a condom in over three years so i don't understand know where they came from i kind of suspect he planted it there and is trying even harder to prove i did something disgusting which again i have not i'm honestly going to just apologize to him no but I need every everyone's

help on providing proof of it to him not photos and videos but just some advice on what I can say in my apology in my apology to make it more real. I know it's dumb to apologise for something I didn't do. I've got an apology for that. But I am at my limit. And I really want this relationship to work right out. Even though it seems like every day might be the end of it the thought of admitting to cheating when when i have not makes me feel physically sick and i and like i have to throw up

but i i would rather do it than spend another three years trying to convince him i haven't or leave the end go what the fuck that was a brilliant one to end in go on i've got an apology yeah go on i'm sorry that you are a fucking idiot who's cheating who quite clearly is cheating and trying to push your onto me because you have guilt right here's my apology to you we're done yeah i'm sorry that you are now homeless get the out yeah and uh your mum there's my apology yeah yeah your mum take your condoms with you. Yeah. What? You dirty... I mean, who reuses condoms anyway? On the air conditioner.

What's on the line? It's all the condoms from last week. No, that's not what she meant. Listen. That's not what she meant. What, they're like, they're throwing them up there. No, no, no. They'll be wrapped, but he's hid them up there so she doesn't find them.

It's bizarre. I feel it visualising open condoms. No, that's disgusting. Like, blowing off the dry. No, they're all up there. No, you dickhead. there so she doesn't find them i see me i feel it visualizing open no that's just like blowing that's literally what i thought he has hid them up there what is this story somebody help me come up with a lie i can tell for not cheating the fuck why yeah i imagine that if he accuses you of cheating on him every few months this is off this is because he is cheating on you every friend i bet ph balances off i do message i'm not a message what's your ph she's gone la la lands babe i can't help her

she's asking for us to come up with a story. One time at Bandcamp, there was an alien. Oh, wait, hang on. Should we put in that alien story about in the kitchen? There's a flute. Yeah, there is a flute. Remember that story last with Jenna? And then the alien's in the kitchen, and it's like a basketball player we could insert that

here that could be the story aliens came it's girls like that i actually feel sorry for her me that she has that low self-esteem yeah and self-worth that she's prepared to lie to herself yeah but then he's like you cheated on me and she's like i haven't but okay so what she's gonna now apologize and lie about herself right if you ain't cheating to this man who's accusing her of cheating and then what right i'm sorry i've. I'll never do it again. So what now? What's next? What, he starts slapping her up?

That's what I'm saying. Right, so somebody said this is toxic, manipulative, stunted, immature relationship. There will never be a good relationship here. So before you fall pregnant, get into debt, look at this logic and this is out save your think of it like a business deal would you go into a deal with someone who was manipulative and disloyal etc i'm glad that was the last'm really fucking pissed off. I really thought it was going to be a story about how he's accusing her

and he's probably cheating on someone else. But it's actually worse than that. It's one of the worst... It's actually worse than just a normal cheating story. Because he is... This girl actually needs someone to give her a slap. I bet she's really fucking young. Because surely there cannot be there's no comments

there cannot be one that goes here's a really good apology who's gonna nobody nobody who's giving her an apology i can't believe i swear to god this was only six days ago only nine people it's not even up there i've gone on to this but it looks like they're joined in with other things i can't really understand what that means and then uh take you and your egg and get the fuck out yeah the fuck is this story about mate but i just i want to love when you get when you get you get riled up it brings me so much joy so peace out peace

do not apologise for the shit you haven't done no do not do that respect yourself enough me and you we're done there's nothing left here there's clearly no trust no

and I can say one put up with that sort of shit there's nothing left here no there's clearly no trust no he's really insane one put up with that sort of shit and two you're accusing me and i i'm telling you and you don't he's also cheating on you at 100 all the time balance yeah check your ph balance right thank you for joining us please peace love yeah maybe get subscribed peace love subscribe for more content we're loving this we hope you are and join us next time emily will still have the house oh my god i'm gonna find more like that just for emily oh my god my fat oh so dumb that hurts my feelings. Yeah, I know. Can you believe that? What the fuck is wrong with her?

I didn't even... What do you think of that? What don't you think of that? I think that girl has got everything that she needs.