Middle-aged opinion - Just be kind!

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What do you think of that? What don't you think of that? I think that girl has got empathy for you. Like that is how I feel about feet is how you feel about me. Yes, yes! Yeah! I need fucking... When I'm telling you something, stop whispering. I'm not really that...
Starting point is 00:00:20 I know. But it's quite... I think it's quite nice to analyse yourself of who you are really because half the shit I do, I don't even realise like, who am I really? Yeah, I don't realise. I thought I was more, I thought I spoke more common than I actually do. I've got a Mandela effect. Not Mandela. Yes, Mandela effects for you. Yeah, so... And I wasn't sure about this hairstyle but I don't mind it.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We've got enough for two hours. We've got enough for two hours? Alright. Show me the dick. Could you possibly... Oh, that man sent us a... er... Frederico. Oh, Frederico ah Frederico
Starting point is 00:01:06 comment on a post this is the champagne tour oh check out hello middle ages website we've noticed
Starting point is 00:01:19 we do three different packages each package I mean the cheapest that I saw was one two you'll notice three different packages each package i mean the cheapest that i saw was one two um you'll notice three different packages each upgrade perks such as bottles paid for by us choosing a transport we're clearly we're walking if we're spending all that on champagne what's paid for by
Starting point is 00:01:40 bottles you buy paid for by us He spoke about helicopter rides as well. Never done that. So he's going to pick us up in a helicopter. Shall we all go? Will you pick us up in a helicopter? Come on, cheer up. We'll be like, show me the duck. Where's the duck?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Pass me my cock. Lame. This one? Uh-huh. So unless you send us a dick pic, we're not interested. Now, if we get a dick pic, we're over. We're over? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I don't have a dick. He cannot send dick pics. No, I have an article one, babe. Not yet. Here you go. Champagne experience. I mean, it looks incredible. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Air conditioning, transport with hotel pick-ups so we don't even stay there. Lunch and tastings across, I mean we'd be paralytic wouldn't we? Exclusive. Wow. Yeah. Listen, it looks incredible and when we start making good money yes i definitely you know we're going to go to paris then i think it's definitely something that we should look at doing yeah absolutely i mean unless it's all expensive paid yeah i would definitely don't expect like us to
Starting point is 00:02:59 get our feet out i would even i would i don't know when I saw the one for I almost was like yeah okay but then I think um even if it's just a tour with no champagne and then we can give our opinion I get what they're trying to do they've seen that we're funny and they they like that which I think is really sweet this ain't Texas ain't no hold down You're 10 Stick around Stick around, around, around, around, around Stick around
Starting point is 00:03:38 And I'll be damned if I can't slow dance with you Somebody that did let that at you stick around stick around do you reckon they play that on saturday night when we're out you can regress it i mean he did say disco oh yeah i wonder why he's put disco oh you've got the phone you look what did it what it say? What am I looking at? Did it say disco? It did say disco. You went look, you see it says disco. Yeah why did it say house disco, disco house, house tech. I didn't read it. I was just like yeah, disco tech. I've got a stalky one. Oh I like that. Is it true off my chest? No. It's too... I can't even read it. Extra monsoons.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Extra chromosomes. X chromosomes. I quite like that. Am I going first? You started the last one. Remember? You went, no, I always start it. And I was like, no, I always start it. So you started. Did I start? Yeah. I don was like, no, I always start it. So you started. Did I start?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yeah. I don't know. So this is cheating, a cheating story. All right. Say hi. Hello, cheaters. Oh, sorry, you mean that. But also, hello, cheaters.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Like and follow. Subscribe for more content. Honestly, and you're worried about me. We know it's too late for me. Save yourself. You're worried about me. Okay. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I do like, I told you, my brain just goes off in places and I just go with it. Right. Hello. Do you want to do that bit? No. Oh, yeah, see it doesn't feel natural going that way. No, because we go that way. Hello and welcome to Middle-Aged Opinion. I'm your host Ellie. And I'm Emily.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And today we're going to be looking at Some reddit posts Yeah That we liked That we liked Drop our chest Yeah I've got some Some stalking
Starting point is 00:05:53 Some cheater stories Cheating And am I the arsehole Yeah they're always the arsehole But we're also arseholes Bit of a mix So we're alright with that Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:03 Join in Buckle in Buck buckle in the car saddle up that takes me back to our first one stick around and i'll be damned if i can't slow dance with you come right anyway so that's our intro right my welcome yeah you're so welcome oh my god i reckon i could do a really good American accent. I couldn't keep it up. I could keep it up. Do you remember, sometimes when we go out, sometimes I want to do different accents,
Starting point is 00:06:51 sometimes I want to be Australian. Yeah, but I find that we only ever say the same thing over and over. You're right, mate. And then American. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:07:03 And what else? I feel like the rest would get us cancelled cancelled and we ain't even started yet um right my wife cheated on our anniversary with with her best friend's husband i mean just the title alone is like what is wrong with you just just before we start right just before we start about cheaters so i am married 20 years this year have i ever thought about cheating you know definitely you've got thor you've got iron man throw the hulk in there captain america yes of course everybody and it's nice to have a little bit of a flirt. But it is not okay to cross the line and cheat on your partners. If you don't want to be with someone, just finish with them.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Because life, I mean, I've watched it. I've watched it from my friends. Life are destroyed. Own your shit and be honest about it. Right. If you don't want to carry on. You only get one life as well. You know as well what I've started.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Why would you want to destroy somebody? I don't really understand. Especially if you say you love them. I'll tell you what else I have noticed. A lot of people that don't want to cheat are now trying to opt for open relationships. It's fine that we don't agree with it. And if it works for them, that's absolutely cool. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And it destroys your relationship. It does. Because what you're finding is the one that's open. them that's absolutely cool yeah i know it does because what what you're finding is the one that's open like that's been can we please open the relationship what i'm noticing in these stories because obviously now we're doing the podcast we read for a lot of stories is that they so they open this relationship then the one literally then the one that open the relationship then sleeps with the co-worker or friend or whoever it is that they've met but then the the party generally normally the wife doesn't want to do it but then eventually bends to do it because they end up feeling so
Starting point is 00:08:57 shit that then yes they're like okay let's try this properly that they're out there getting laid having fun or whatever then the husband doesn't like it and wants to close the relationship. But it's too late. It's damaged. And you have made her feel so shit. I'm not saying it's always the husband that opens the relationship. Sometimes it is the women. Yeah, that was just an example.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah, it's the most common example that I have read, is fair to say. Then the man doesn't like it because it's now you feel like you're sharing and that that's not fair or whatever. Yeah, and she's enjoying it more than you expect. That's right. So either, yeah, so either suck it up and stay with him or if you're not in love and you want to move on, that's okay too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah. Be honest. Be kind. Always be kind. Especially if you've got like kids and that together. Like there's no need for such hurt. I don't think so. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:09:54 that was my little rant about cheating. So my wife cheated on our anniversary with her best friend's husband. Buckle in. You ready? We can see that Emily's very annoyed by this already. Hey Reddit. I know. Cheaters equal liars and I hate liars. Exactly. I never thought I'd be here but I need to get this off my chest. This is a throwaway account for obvious reasons. Here's my story of how I discovered my wife was cheating on me on our anniversary of all days.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I know. My 34 male, wife 32 female, and I have been married for seven years. It's a seven year itch. Yeah. Yeah. I'm literally about to say that. Yeah, yeah. I knew you were.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I saw the little light bulb above your head then we have two beautiful kids age five and three so just babies uh for the most part our marriage has been great or so i thought last month we celebrated our seventh wedding anniversary i planned a romantic weekend getaway to a cabin in the mountains oh my god yeah yeah beautiful where are these men because that's what she needs it's like a yeah so please apply below you've got a cabin or you're this hiker that we're following up the mountains oh okay well we're still following we're still following him yeah respectfully with a great distance right it was supposed to be just the two of us no kids no distractions
Starting point is 00:11:32 distractions just quality time together in the weeks leading up to the trip i noticed she was acting distant she was always on her phone giggling at messages and being sensitive about who she was talking to when i asked her she brushed it off saying it was just her friends from work um fast forward to our anniversary weekend we got to our we got to the cabin and everything seems perfect at first excuse me but she was glued to her phone the entire time i tried to ignore it thinking maybe she was just having a hard time unplugging from work on the second night she fell asleep with her phone unlocked i know i knew it's a breach of privacy but my gut was screaming at me and something something was wrong i picked up her phone and found a series of texts between her and a guy named brian yeah brian i mean it's like we hate all Brians, but we don't. It's this Brian.
Starting point is 00:12:46 The texts were explicit, leaving no doubt that they were having an affair. They even joked about meeting up while we were supposed to be on our anniversary trip. Nice. Here's where it gets worse. I recognised the phone number. Brian wasn't just some guy from work he was my wife's best friend's husband i mean i knew that was coming but i'd forgotten because i'm invested they had been coming over for barbecues double dates and our kids birthdays
Starting point is 00:13:20 parties for years i felt sick i didn't confront her immediately because I don't want to ruin the weekend instead I quietly took screenshots of the conversation and sent them to myself when we got I mean I wouldn't be able to sleep with that person when um when we got back home I confronted her she broke down in tears and admitted everything they had been sneaking around for months using every excuse in the book to meet up she said she was sorry and begged for forgiveness but I was too hurt to think straight to add salt to the wound her best friend called me the next day apparently she found out oh my god she found out too and wanted to make sure i knew what was going on it turns out
Starting point is 00:14:15 their affair had been going on right under our noses even while we were all hanging out together as a couple it's fucking disgusting I took some time to process everything and decided to take a break I moved in with my brother for a while to clear my head we've been going to marriage counseling don't bother love since then but I don't know if I can trust her again our kids are my top priority and trying to keep things as normal as possible for their sake but inside i'm a mess i loved her more than anything and she betrayed and shattered me um his uh has anyone been through something similar how did you cope is it possible to real rebuild trust after something like this any advice would be appreciated there is a small update i don't know if i've got
Starting point is 00:15:14 to find it so i don't know if you want to give your thoughts on this first there is nothing worse than finding out in such a way and they're just there pretending and worse that they you know that person I know
Starting point is 00:15:40 you've met that person you know that person I just don't they know you they've been in your home they've been around your kids I don't know why people cause so much pain that is the the biggest thing for me you know after watching what you've been through yeah so we all know i'm the psycho mate in the group we all know obviously our rant on the phone to you and that is my way of coping with what you're going through that is how so by yelling and having a go at you it's i'm not having a go and yelling
Starting point is 00:16:20 at you which you know yeah i am some people need to do that yeah and that is and that is how I cope and I just think I mean obviously you know my morals on the situation anyway we're very similar in that aspect of you know when you commit to someone that's it it's as simple as that unless you are in an open relationship which neither of us were or have been then this hurt and betrayal put on other people is so disgusting with i'm filled with so much disdain from all of that behavior that i struggle to find any aspect of understanding i really do i just I don't think that person deserves forgiveness. Like, forgive yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And move on. You think he needs to forgive himself? Yeah. In what context? He will blame himself. Did I do something wrong? What was I doing? What was I not giving them? This, that and the other.
Starting point is 00:17:22 He will beat himself up. Yeah. He needs to forgive himself because it's not him. It's not him. It's her. It's them. And at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:17:35 they're spineless because not only have they destroyed their partner but they've destroyed their family unit. Yeah. And clearly to them it wasn't strong enough anyway that's why they were looking elsewhere but they they are low beings i actually be able to do that part of people part of me actually you know a lot of time thinks that cheating actually comes from an insecure place yeah so you know it doesn't mean that i am secure within myself he must forgive himself yeah he will
Starting point is 00:18:15 blame himself yeah and it's not you know people say it takes two to break up a marriage it takes two to make a and i don't get me wrong it does it takes two in every single set of circumstance and maybe after having two children because you know what it's like having after I mean my uh eldest son was 10 pound 15 ounces so it was this it was the same as carrying twins so yes I my stomach has been stretched out my figure is nowhere near what it used to be whatever but I'm lucky enough that my husband made me feel just as beautiful as as I've felt with him before and how I feel with him after I'm very secure that he loves me I love him and another reason that I have never cheated I could never hurt him in that way ever I just couldn't do it and that is how much I love him and that is why I say to you I would never you know if anything happened to Paul because my husband's not a well man or we separated I would never give myself like that because it's too exhausting yeah especially for someone to
Starting point is 00:19:27 turn around and hurt you in that way it really angers me like I say can't relate I've only been there and you know watched you go through it and whatever and all I could do was be there for you and try to understand the best way I can. But I find it devastating. It is. Just separate, especially with kids. Yeah. Because everything is ripped apart.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Everything is done now. And, you know, there is a small update. And also, when there isn't kids, it's easier to separate. This isn't working for me. Let's go our separate ways. Yeah. Fine. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. Fine. Does it hurt? Yeah. Am I going to cry about it what? Yeah. Fine. Does it hurt? Yeah. Am I going to cry about it? Maybe a little bit. You know. Probably not as much as if I find out via somebody else that you've fucked around.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah. And do you know what's worse? That we haven't even dropped on. Are we going to say the same thing? I don't know. Are you going to say, that's her best mate's bloke? No, I'm not even bothered about it being her best mate's bloke. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So for me... She's scum. So what some of you don't know is we talk about... In fact, Jenna has probably been featured on every... So I have been... You'll meet Jenna and we'll go through this all again. She needs to wear a crown when she comes. She needs to...
Starting point is 00:20:38 Because we... When there's a story, she's generally involved, right? She's honestly, she's a blast. So I've known Jenna since I was six years old and we have been best mates ever since like we get on well we're quite similar and Emily's wonderful brother Adam is married to Jenna that's not how we know each other we know each other from school um but uh it's like a full circle I did have a full fucking point that yeah sorry that's it right so my point is so Adam because me and Jenna are so close and anyone that we there's a
Starting point is 00:21:15 group of seven of us and anyone that they date becomes like my brother-in-law that's how I feel about them right so to me it feels like incest when so I do know some people as well that their best mate went off with their ex I've told you you know and for me I'm like that's incest bruv right because I just can't get my head around that like for me for example like Adam is like my brother he's not my brother but he's like my brother like my brother-in-law so to even think about going with him makes me physically sick because to to look at your best friend's partner in in a way like any of you in our group of seven to look at your partners in a sexual way or a flirt or anything like that
Starting point is 00:22:05 just i cannot my brain don't even go that way because all our children they're all my nieces and nephews right that is how i look at it so for me that whole concept to me makes the whole situation of her cheating even worse because you're going you're my best friend you're the love of my life and bitch is shagging yeah you should be able to trust those two people more than anyone in the room together right right but not only are you betraying your best friend your best friend you are betraying your husband make it make sense so potentially also as a person right so as a person you might be the worst type of person there is right you know i mean some surely it's got to be i mean i can't i don't know but surely it's got to be
Starting point is 00:22:54 better if your um husband partner cheats with someone you don't know then had it been with someone that you do know yeah because there's that potential if they don't know than had it been with someone that you do know. Yeah, because there's that potential. If they don't know you, you've never met them, that there's a potential that they didn't even know they're married or they're living that second life. Yeah, or if they do, you're like a waltom because they don't know you. Or they've heard a story,
Starting point is 00:23:22 like they've tried to be without you, but you're you're a psychopath yeah I mean we read a lot of that as well like a lot and you they're a psycho and it's like are they though and as well like I've noticed I noticed from stories of people cheating and whatever and then we go into stories about kids and this that and the other and i think although she the ex may be a psycho as the person claims perhaps sometimes it might be worth listening to what they're saying just to have it there in the back of your mind that they are saying this stuff for a reason not saying that all aren't, like there are some crazy people out there, right? But sometimes what this ex is trying to tell you, they are trying to save you.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Right? Absolutely. Right. Anyway, sorry, as we do normally go off on tangents. Because, you know, we're old, we're wise, yeah? We've got a lot to say. We've lived. We've lived. And we've got the odd gray hair here and there do you no come let's have a look you do no i don't you do where here no i don't there's one there there's none there's none i've definitely got the odd few or I think because before I was 40 in February
Starting point is 00:24:46 I don't think I saw any and then all of a sudden I'm like I'm really great there's no greys in mine is there I can't see any of yours no I ain't even going to lie there is one you don't have to lie
Starting point is 00:25:00 there is but it's like this long oh ok it's a new one it's come to punish me it's because i plucked one so 40 are coming to the funeral look she's going right through now is it thicker where's it gone oh you can't even see it no it's gone it's not even there yeah so can't see it but my mum so my mum passed away at 57 and it was weird because the first top of the top of her hair was gray and then all the way underneath was her natural color but look at my mom my mom is your mom is a lovely color gray i think it's very pretty for oh my god i don't know years absolutely i think it's actually pretty
Starting point is 00:25:42 right should i get to the update yeah sorry sorry everyone this is why our episodes are becoming longer and longer you're welcome right my wife cheated on our anniversary with her with her best friend's husband update one it doesn't look like there is any more update and it has some adult content it made me open like that i agree to over 18 stuff so i don't know what i'm reading but here we go i really i recently posted about a really tough situation i'm going through i struggle with what to do next and would really appreciate some advice if you could take a moment to read my original post and leave your thoughts and comments here this is how is that an update
Starting point is 00:26:30 let me let me go on these comments that was weird let me go on these sorry see if he here we go it says hey everyone hey everyone as you all know this just happened last month here we go sorry it's because it's not it's in the thread and it's not actually in the section itself this happened just last month since then I've been avoiding any conversations with her that isn't about the kids she's been blowing up my phone telling me how much she loves me cause she has she loves him this week and begging me to come back home she says there's something important she needs to tell me face to face I know anyway honestly I'm not ready I'm not ready to stand in front of her yet the pain is just so raw we we tried um going to
Starting point is 00:27:29 marriage counseling but I'm disconnected it after just two sessions it was the overwhelmingness for me I visited my kids almost every day and we spend time together exactly but i can't bring myself to go inside the house then yesterday i got an unexpected text from her best friend she said she needed to talk to me urgently about something i don't know yet now i'm torn should i hear her out or just walk away exactly i'm not even still best friends i doubt it but whatever she's either ill or pregnant that's what's going on i'm not sure what to think and i honestly scared of what else i might uncover thanks for thank thank you everyone i mean do you know what i'm gonna do i'm going to um i'm gonna have to save his thread in case he ever comes back
Starting point is 00:28:27 and does it was only eight days ago so i'm gonna save the full thread and then if we get an update if he updates with whatever this news is then we will include the full story again in a new one of updates so sometimes they come on and put them on later so we do that poor bloke so yeah i mean i feel like we've covered everything there is to be said about it you look like you're going to reach down ready and punch her in the face but don't do it no i know it's just the lowest of the lows so i reckon she's either ill especially if the best mate you don't reckon you reckon she's pregnant yeah she's pregnant but then why would the best friend be like there's something we need to talk about urgently urgently. Do you see what I mean? I don't know, but what, what, what, is this the, the best mate that she's been cheating on? Or is this a new best mate? I don't know. Because like someone needs to support her? I don't know. She ain't got my support, she's got my middle finger. Yeah, suck on it. Or sit and swivel.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Swivel. Yeah. Go on. I know. I fucking hate people like that. I know, so do I. The lies, the contentment, I just... It's too much. I have not got time for people like that. Don't like it.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Don't like it? I don't like it. I don't like her!. Don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I think the worst thing is when I get angry, I go quiet. And I can't express to you how angry I am. I know. And that's when I start yelling at you. And then I start watching you back.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And then I'm like, and this, and this. And I'm thinking, why didn't I just say that? Because at the time, I was choked up and this and I'm thinking why didn't I just say that because at the time I like choked up with anger I do but that is the difference of people isn't it me I'm like straight out there thousand faults blah blah blah blah without even thinking of what I'm saying I'm like I fire fire fire whereas you will take it in process and then go from there and that's just the way of the world that is why we're doing the podcast together it's we're different people do you know i mean that's what makes it work
Starting point is 00:30:49 but you know um it's not always good to just be you know like in in a bad situation i'm gonna blow up and react right and you're gonna be more reserved and take time to process that going to be more reserved and take time to process that whereas my eyes will it takes too long and it is past and i'm i'm now kicking yourself i'm now ready to say what i want to say and actually i haven't said it and it's kind of too late to say it because it's like i want more thing yeah it's gone yeah yeah i think i've sort of it's gone yeah yes I think I've sort of I try to keep the peace I always have tried to keep the peace and sometimes I shouldn't have kept the peace and then part of my quietness in my anger is also you don't deserve anything from me no so take your silly self yeah i tend to i'm not like it's weird because obviously we all know i'm mouthy and i swear a lot but
Starting point is 00:31:55 when i'm in an argument or confrontation it's very strange like i my brain connects there's no swearing there's so much calmness i mean you've seen me there's all this calmness that comes over me and then i start laughing and the more agitated and irritated someone gets the more i find it funny then the eyes lock and then people are like oh my god you look like a psycho and i'm like oh you have no idea no idea Go, my love. Okay. So, mine's stalky. Stalky, stalky.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Stalky, stalky. So, I've been stalked by the same creep for eight years and I have no way to make it stop. Oh, my God. I don't know how good this is. I just really like the style. Yeah. I mean, can you say it's good? Is it a good story?
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's entertaining, so you can say that. It's not a good story, but it... It was really entertaining when you got stalked. Yeah. Yeah, but it is entertaining because we're just trying to get viewers, right? So, you know know it's entertaining but that is the whole point about giving our opinion is that we're like oh my god
Starting point is 00:33:10 send help right sorry I know my legs are wringing this is going to be one of those non feel good posts ah where I vent about being powerless in an absolute shit-uation. Shit-uation.
Starting point is 00:33:28 A shit-uation. Shit-uation. It says shit-uation. Yeah, shit-uation. I like it. This is a shit-uation, isn't it? I know a few of those and I've been in those. Shit-uations.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Shit-uations. Yeah. On a daily. Daily. on a daily I, female, 29 have been stalked by the same man male
Starting point is 00:33:49 47 she's guessing there's a question mark for about 8 years now all of it is done via email these days back in my day it would have been the home phone it started when i was about 21 and we
Starting point is 00:34:11 worked in the same place my job was to answer phones at that place and one day he started using his lunch break to sit in a parking lot across the street and call the phone of our business literally every five seconds for the whole hour he was out there. As you do. I mean, I'd rather be eating my sandwich. Back then, it would have been minutes. Yeah, that would have...
Starting point is 00:34:41 It would have cost a lot of money. It would have cost a lot of money. It's a lot of effort he went to twice he sent flowers to my job for me but used my email address to send them I tried calling flower place
Starting point is 00:34:57 and they said they couldn't tell me the name on the credit card they're not allowed to no several times after work i would be sitting in traffic to see that he was following me he lived in the complete opposite direction and would follow me and try to make eye contact before turning off the road and leaving why didn't he just go up and talk to her?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Like, that's just standard, surely. Okay, it's just standard talking. Yeah, talk. I need to, like... Why would he? Because this is clearly more fun. Yeah. And time-consuming. Instead of, hi, I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I'm not interested. Oh, okay, thanks. I'll move on. No. Okay. Or maybe I'll just go marry your sister or something. From an earlier episode. Yeah, just do that.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That sounds like the way forward. You know what? Fuck it. Go for the brother. After a few months of unsuccessful interventions by my employer, I quit. After that, the email started at first they came from his personal email then he started making new emails all of the emails had the year he was born in them like his personal email I think he did that so I would know it was him. I have been getting these emails for years. Sometimes they are angry but not violent. Sometimes they are not. One
Starting point is 00:36:37 time he emailed asking if I would spend the night with him for $1,000. I was young. What's his name? Where? Where is it? Where? if I would spend the night with him for a thousand dollars. I was young. What's his name? Where? Where is it? Where? A thousand dollars, isn't it? I was young, alone, and living in the city,
Starting point is 00:36:57 and eventually I just never felt safe in the city, so I moved. Far. I made myself un-Google-able. I did that. Say un-Google-able. Un-Google-able I did that say un-Google-able you're very Google-able now we actually come up first yeah it's because of you I'm now Google-able why did you do that
Starting point is 00:37:15 because I was being stalked oh okay well it was more of a hate crime than stalk it was more of a hate crime you're very Googleable now not not good no middle aged opinion is googleable yeah yeah not me well you come straight up you're in the picture with me yeah but it's not me it's us you have you ever googled me no oh okay carry on i did modeling so i know it's on my little board in my mom's house you should give
Starting point is 00:37:45 anyway give it a google googling googleable and got rid of uh privatized uh got rid of privatized all of my social media so either got rid of all i moved to texas this ain't texas after graduating from college and become a teacher nice the emails are still coming a few months ago he made a linkedin profile for me no using my work email. I heard that as well. Yeah. I only found out because I got the notification and a separate email from him basically letting me know that he knows where I work and live.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Oh, my God. I just got another one that says he's visiting my city soon and he can't wait to see me. I feel like she needs to go to the police. They won't do anything. He's just a frustrated man. We know this right. It's not his fault. You wore that so you're clearly giving him a sign.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Why didn't you report it earlier? Yeah, you're such a hooker what can i do with all of this information to help myself uh go to the fucking police yeah i don't know i feel like america are a little bit more on it if i'm honest you would think yeah i have the email saved i went to the police back when everything first started happening and was told basically there was nothing I could do. Fair enough. The detective, no, they're just waiting for them to be dead.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. There's no prevent in the world. Of course, yeah. It's not about prevent anymore. Yeah, but isn't America, you're allowed to carry an arm, arm weapon, a gun? Only in certain states. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I don't know what Texas is. I reckon it's all about cowboying. I feel like, yeah. You're allowed to in a pocket. I mean, that's a Western feel, but yeah. It's still Texas. I feel like it's not a bad idea at this point. The detective I spoke with said that stalking laws are built around domestic abuse laws.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And since we were never in a relationship, there wasn't anything I could do unless this guy actually threatened or hurt me. Okay. I don't want either of those things to ever happen and I have to live by live my life for the last eight years being scared and reminded that it could just posted on legal advice reddit legal advice I was pretty much told the same thing i just hate this whole thing uh inaction feels unsafe action feels unsafe i feel unsafe i don't know i don't really know what to say first of all and i don't know why he's never asked her is interested? Is that what he wants from her, though? Yeah, but why not? I mean, because she doesn't say, like, he asked me, I said no,
Starting point is 00:41:10 and then he started stalking me. That's not what's happened. Or even, like, why are you emailing me? Yeah, but I don't, like, it's too far now to ever consider anything, right? Very strange, and I don't have any advice no so someone says oh my god what the fuck i thought restraining slash no contact borders extended to any forms of harassment it is harassment yeah i wish i were a lawyer so i knew more men can be so terrifying i'm sorry you're going through this it's absolutely
Starting point is 00:41:47 inexcusable yeah um i mean it is i just don't i just don't and maybe as well because it's like a so he's doing it it's really social media right so because he's doing that maybe that changes matters as well no but it's emails it's not social media yeah which is which is network right so it's computer it's a different it's different than but she said going up to her but not yeah no but still i mean i personally i don't know what was i told i had i had to message them back to say stop it i don't want and if they keep doing it we won't do anything anyway i don't really know what to say so that is really what happened with you i have no faith in it and i thought america might be different but clearly not no it's not about prevent it's not about protecting it is
Starting point is 00:42:45 once you've been hurt and that's if they believe you yeah so i don't really like i say that i don't have advice for her i feel incredibly sorry for her it's just scary isn't it so when you said about stalker i thought oh let me get one of them instead of enraging you with another cheating one which was literally the next story i was gonna read so i thought let me en one of them instead of enraging you with another cheating one, which was literally the next story I was going to read. So I thought, let me enrage you with this. Are you ready to move on or you want to keep going? I can't,
Starting point is 00:43:14 I can't, I'm stuck. Go. Okay. Feel like I'm just existing. So this is from Reddit, uh, stalking.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Okay. Okay. So just over a year ago i passed my driving test something i put off for a long time and was finally proud of myself for something within months of passing every time i go out i get beat at late at night the other month I walked out of the shop near on instantly I get a beat I used to go out to the gym at lunch times but every time I get beat at I changed my schedule to the evening and it started happening at night too then everywhere I went it has started even when I'm at home I live close-ish to the main road they beep every time at the same time last year I was driving my mum somewhere and out of nowhere this car started frantically beeping at us and following us it nearly caused an accident i found out that someone broke into my old house with a knife four years ago not sure on the exact details but it it seems heavily coincidental see me coincidental three years ago um
Starting point is 00:44:51 faked that fake dating profiles in names of my family members and other random names starting appearing started appearing in drones which has led to me completely isolating myself for three years i've had my tires slashed been there um i've been i've seen the stalker creeping around near my house and even heard him call my name in the middle of the night. The past six months I've also noticed a load of alcohol cans across from where I live as if he's been watching my house whilst drinking. We've got cameras installed now. I'm just existing and have been and have been for the last 10 plus years life feels hopeless I feel trapped inside my head I've now quit the gym and haven't left my bedroom for over a month everyone told me it was over but it seems like it's never ending every time I close my eyes they there. I can't even get away from it during my sleep as I wake
Starting point is 00:46:07 up to nightmares of this. What do you think? That is quite scary. It is quite scary. I mean, I can see why she'd isolate herself. i think i would too because i'm i'm a bit like that because you'd be worried about your family yeah outside what do you think i'd do i think you'd follow the beeping cars first i'd go in in the, pick up my Harley Quinn bat. Have you seen my Harley Quinn? Yeah. It's a replica.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Walk out with that. Go, you've got to say, say. Like a moron. Nothing goes on in those moments. goes nothing goes on in those moments like so I was um in my lounge and then I heard someone speaking a different language coming from the kitchen so both have I told you this yeah so my youngest was in his room my eldest was in the bath and my husband was in the cabin so anyway so I'm like what is that so I pause the telly i get up and i go into the hall and there was some random man in my kitchen right so i'm like what the fuck are you doing in my ass i was like get the fuck out get the fuck out and he started laughing and then in my head i i was
Starting point is 00:47:41 like shit right so i did think shit and then I was thinking why is nobody my husband my two children who by the way are nearly adults and way bigger than me why is nobody it was I was living there about a year ago no it's longer than a year ago can't have been Mario the policeman it weren't last year. Do you reckon it was two years ago? No more than two years. I feel like it was two to three. It wasn't, no, because that was COVID.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah. We were just coming out of COVID. It was after COVID. It was after COVID. I reckon two. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It happened. Yeah, it happened. So anyway anyway so then he started laughing and then i have a beautiful staffy who's talked about her before cookie
Starting point is 00:48:32 so i've never seen her do it she's soppy as anything she come in between my legs and just was staring and then he started back backing out um and then as he was backing out and i'm going get the fuck out my ass you don't just walk into people's house get the fuck out as i look i've got like a utility room like a u-room uh yeah and there was another bloke there so they went out i locked the door and uh yeah that was really weird But my instinct is to be aggressive. What do you think you would do? Oh, aggression. Aggression, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Straight away aggression. Straight away. And then I'd cry. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't because nothing bad happened. Yeah, but that would be adrenaline for me. Yeah. That would make me cry.
Starting point is 00:49:21 But I think if it was a continuous thing and you know your life is being you know term yeah torn apart and you can't go out but then i would never let that happen because if you're stopping it if he's if they want to get you they're going to get you no matter what right well yeah but i'm not saying make it easy but there was parts of my life where I was like I don't want to go out because of the repercussions yeah the things that were happening on on social media and the it yeah that I had too many messages coming at me yeah but you know the way I see is go to certain areas because I mean I get the I get the, right, to stay away from certain areas. And then, you know, perhaps going with friends, going out with friends,
Starting point is 00:50:12 making sure they're coming to get you, dropping you home, making sure that you are safe. I feel like that would be the way to then move forward with your life. I think locking yourself away... Yeah, but always relying on that other person to be able to do that as well. I mean, I get it, babe, but I just couldn't stop living my day-to-day
Starting point is 00:50:32 because some fucking weirdo, because if they're going to get me, they're going to get me, and I think that's where my mind would sit and I would try and live my best life. And if they came for me, I'd go down swinging. That's it, simple as that. But came for me, I'd go down swinging. That's it.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Simple as that. But that's me. Not everyone's like that. I'm just saying there's got to be a better way instead of, like, giving up on everything that you are and where you belong. But she's young as well. No, I know. So maybe, like, some boxing, some, you know, judo,
Starting point is 00:51:02 something to feel more empowered. Right, go on, my love. No more faults? You got any more faults? Do you know what? It's in this country. I don't know whether it'd be in America, but there is... It's based on martial arts, but it's basically... street fighting, but not street fighting. It's how to protect yourself, and it's directed at women.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Right. And how to protect themselves. So it's self-defense. It is self-defense. Yeah. But it's not like a martial art type. Right. I can't think of what it's called.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Why don't you... I mean, I'd happily go to something like that. It looks really, really good. Yeah. I would happily go to something like that. Did you just throw my ear in? It was so dramatic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Just giving the game away with the earrings. Anyhow. Anyways. Anyways, darling. just giving the game away with the earrings anywho anyways anyways darling it's M.I. the arsehole for calling a lady at Costco a bleeping c-word and her kid a little shit well it depends what they've done
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'll let you know probably not I mean that's not comfortable do you know if you heard someone like shouting part of me would be like oh yeah who are you talking to and then another one would be like I would help laugh but I would also be like what the hell well I think it always depends on the content because some of these kids mate are little shits and assholes do you know what outside my window here yeah yeah literally like was it yesterday before outside my window i there was beeping yeah
Starting point is 00:52:48 right so i'd nose i'd look like you do yeah yeah her whole and there's cars parked on the other side of the road and there's a car who doesn't have the right of way pushing his way through and then there was a it was a lady and she was obviously coming towards him and it was her right of way right and he's still pushing so she's come up onto the um curve yeah pavement he's not doing anything he's just pushing forward right like bullying yeah the car behind a younger bloke he was effing and blinding and was saying all sorts of quite racial things out the window at this woman. And all I kept thinking was, shame on you.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah. You're like younger generation and you're talking to a woman like that and you're actually the one in the wrong. Yeah. You disgusting person. I'm not even a little bit surprised. I think the whole world's gone mental bay. He was so in the wrong. Yeah. You disgusting person. I'm not even a little bit surprised. I think the whole world's gone mental, babe. He was so rude to her.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. So, like, proper racial assault. He was awful. You know by mine and Helen's, where you've got that dead bit of road. It's really thin. It's got 17 potholes. I mean, we can go swimming there in the summer. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:03 I was coming back from dropping the kids to school and then i automatically go up on the curb yeah automatically because i know for anyone coming around there in the morning it's really tight and difficult but anyway so i turned it's really busy and then this bloke so this woman's coming up this bloke will not get on the curb and he is screaming uh yelling all this stuff at her and she's going there is a brick wall i cannot move over anymore he's like you should have waited back there but you can't actually until you come around the corner you can't see so everyone's going get up get up on the curb get up on the fucking curb right so anyway he got up he managed to get up on the curb still yelling up on the fucking curb. Right? So anyway, he got up.
Starting point is 00:54:45 He managed to get up on the curb, still yelling at her because it was all her fault. And when she drove past me, she looked really upset. And I said to her, none of that was your fault. Not any of it. Not one little bit. No. No. He is a pig.
Starting point is 00:55:00 See you next Tuesday. Right. Anyway. Yeah. For the most part, I'm not confrontational confrontational but every once in a while yeah i can be quite outspoken anyhow i like going to costco never really have any issues there even when it's crazy busy. And on this day, it was. I normally go to the self-checkout lane, but I had a very full cart,
Starting point is 00:55:33 so I got into one of the regular lanes. All the lanes are a minimum 10 carts deep, and that's after the long line to get where the employees direct you to the checkout lanes. If you've ever been in Costco. I have, yeah. Love it. It's just the checkout bit isn't big. Even then I still love it.
Starting point is 00:55:55 It's a bit like Ikea, isn't it? I'm like, yay, 75 donut. Just for me. Just for me. As I'm waiting, a lady and her 10, maybe 12-year-old kid are coming perpendicular to me. Right. Thinking she's just cutting through, heading towards the toiletries section, I move my cart so she can get through. Yeah. She then push her cart and inserts herself into the line.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Oh, hell no. Oh, hell no. No, she did not. Oh, hell no. I tap her on the shoulder and say, excuse me, I was letting you through, not letting you in the line. Right. She looks at me dumbfounded and I repeat you in the line. Right. She looks at me, dumbfounded, and I repeat what I just said. Right. And she replies with, no, no English. Let me help
Starting point is 00:56:54 you. Let me help you with your car. In a, what I think was an Eastern European accent, her kid starts talking to her in another language. Of course, slagging him off. Oh dear. So, I let it go. We eventually get to the till. I mean, she let it go. She let it go.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I would never be able to let it go. Oh, it's hard. No. So, I let it go. We eventually get to the till. The employee there asks for her Costco card, and after all her things are scanned, asks if she should be interested in donating to whatever charity.
Starting point is 00:57:38 This is where I lose it, because she replies in a perfect Canadian accent that she's not interested and i blurt out you bleeping c words yeah see you next tuesday supervisor happens to be there and tells me i shouldn't use that language here and no matter what the situation i don't think so i tell him what happened and that it is the perfect situation to use that language. He replies with, she's with a kid, so no, I should not be using that language. Please.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I look at the kid, then to the supervisor and said, this little shit just as bad for playing along with his mum pretending she didn't speak English so they can cut in line. In fact, they should apologise, not just to me, but everyone behind me who got into line properly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:38 The supervisor looks at me frustrated and then just walks away. I'd be pissed off with that as well. mean the whole situation would piss me off the lady pays for her stuff while i glare at her the whole time she says nothing and then beelined to the exit it's so embarrassing it's so embarrassing. It's cringy. I get to the till. The girl there with a smirk asks, so how's your day going? As I hand her my membership card. Yeah. Rude.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Edit. From the comments, it seems people are under the impression I was non-stop yelling. I did blurt out the insult in a volume loud enough for the lady to hear, but my conversation with the supervisor was at a regular talking volume. Edit two. To the people saying he was just an innocent kid, no, he wasn't. He spoke to his mum immediately in another language,
Starting point is 00:59:47 which either means he was smart enough to pick up on his mum saying, no, no English, or this is something he and his mother do all the time. Right. Yeah. I just think it's rude. There's no need for it. You have to wait like everybody else i mean
Starting point is 01:00:06 how far i would have taken it depends where i would be in my monthly cycle so we've got the part where i'd have been calmer and been like not not to worry and not said anything or we've got the psycho where i would have picked up the cart fully moved the cart and and done it that way and had like a fight in costco's but you've got the psycho where I would have picked up the cart, fully moved the cart and done it that way and had like a fight in Costco. But you've got Google Translate. Honestly. Or I would have like taken my cart and gone round the front of her. That would have been another.
Starting point is 01:00:40 That's something my mum would have done. Yeah. Or she would be like, come on everybody, she's letting us all in. Yeah, yeah. Like the amount of times. You proper sounded like my mum would have done yeah or she'd be like come on everybody she's letting us all in yeah yeah that would amount of times you proper sounded like your mum then your laugh is like your mum's as well you know when you laugh it just reminds me of your mum's laugh wow because you do that kind of deep thing and then go and sarah when i talk to sarah and like because i listen to a podcast and the girl laughs like her and I go to Sarah She laughs at you and then she goes what does it sound like and I went ho ho ho
Starting point is 01:01:09 she went I sound like Sarah She went I sound like Sarah I was like not at all no but I don't know I can't that's not my laugh my laughs more seal like isn't it I'm like huh huh huh huh laugh my laugh's more seal like isn't it mine's more like um i do have a little short one hold on next time oh sorry trolley out of the line and point them in to the back yeah exactly universal language yeah move bitch yeah yeah move bitch get out the way she really is and so was her kids the manager should have
Starting point is 01:01:48 voided the transaction and pushed them back to the line yeah she's got a lot of resistance a lot of resistance yeah
Starting point is 01:01:56 the manager is just trying to get through the day literally with a little drama as possible when I when I worked in wilco's and then
Starting point is 01:02:07 customers would come in right and they go oh my god you're out of blah blah i go do you think i have any control of shipping ordering no i am a bitch that works on it's nothing to do with me i don't order all i do is i get the trolley i put the stuff i walk around like telling people that's it it's nothing to do with me let me tell you as well right for whoever's listening to us do not let your children eat pick and mix yeah because because the people that would come into store and when i say skank oh my god and they would put their hands in that pick a mix and eat it whereas when it's done it's done very hygienically from the staff so it is gloves are on aprons are on and it was put in lovely but
Starting point is 01:02:59 people would come in and take it and you know 99 of the population don't even wash their hands 99 yeah do you want a quick one yeah okay have a quickie it's bridezilla i'm hoping we can get a little giggle yes yes because they're all insane as well uh bride afraid of being upstaged by a toddler i mean i loved it do you know as well i've noticed in the videos honestly when i was editing the other day i was i was pushing it through quite quickly so it was like your eyebrow my facial expression you're very expressive i am literally like licking my teeth I am I do that I move I am frowning
Starting point is 01:03:46 I'm I'm angry I move so much listening to your stories I'm just like I tell you what else as well
Starting point is 01:03:53 if if a word is said and that's a song I know I then start singing whatever song that that word goes with
Starting point is 01:04:01 I can't help it it just happens this one time that's why I said Texas and then help it it just happens this one time and then i looked at you i'm like come on there ain't no holdin um see right sorry bride afraid of being upstaged by a toddler uh bride's dinner reddit so what do you do when your sister-in-law is freaking out crying because she thinks her yeah she's crying because her nephew one and a half year old is going to steal the spotlight from her wedding you uh move on with your life she asked him to be the ring bearer and supplied the accessories she made a board book for him all all about being a ring bearer she made a oh she made like a like a mood board i'm assuming it
Starting point is 01:04:58 says yeah a book for him all about being a ring bearer he wouldn't have absorbed any of that right uh i thought she was excited uh what gives all of a sudden question mark i don't did i need to say question mark no no i've i've edited this in what where i say question mark an explanation mark i think leave it in. Yeah, you could. No, no, I haven't taken it out. Oh, I was going to say let them know how, ooh, I am. Question mark, question mark, question mark.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Question mark, question mark, explanation mark. Anyway, so do you not take your son To the wedding Do you take him away But try to make sure He doesn't have too much fun And upstage her Feel like I'm Dodging eggshells As I chase after a toddler
Starting point is 01:05:56 I have no idea what she's upset about Because he's going to look cute I'm guessing And everyone's going to go Because I would definitely And then they'll go for the drink and no one will care because he's going to look cute. I'm guessing. And everyone's going to go, oh. Because that's, I would definitely go, oh. And then they'll go for the drink and no one will care. No one will care. People will be like, why is that baby still here?
Starting point is 01:06:14 We're drunk. He literally will walk down, hand over the ring, everyone go, oh. And then that's it, he's done his bit, and no one will notice him forever. No one, oh, bridezilla, afraid of being upst will notice him forever. No one. Oh, Bridezilla. Afraid of being upstaged by a taller. I'm the same.
Starting point is 01:06:29 My husband. I'm the same. My husband and I have a party for our family a year later. Maybe it's, I don't know. Maybe it's because she's having a traditional wedding, she said. I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how she's feeling this week i get stressed too but this seems extreme i have no idea what then don't have him as the page boy ask your sister or sister-in-law whatever it is to get a babysitter if you don't want babies there babies honestly there is no way of getting a toddler i'm gonna say up to the age of four
Starting point is 01:07:06 maybe to walk down an aisle to give you a ring they're just gonna do what they want to do how old was uh jen's little one one she was wouldn't she she weren't far off yeah she was walking yeah just about yeah i can't even remember what year they got married was it 2016 maybe but she was everywhere and i didn't know what to do i was like oh no come here and then i was like oh maybe I don't do that. Cause she was excited. Yeah. And it was no, I wasn't like, Oh my God,
Starting point is 01:07:52 there's no, like, I don't know. It's very strange to me. I think people get upset for all the wrong reasons, but we have discussed this many times about when you're getting married, everything is heightened. Yeah. But I know she doesn't need to worry about a toddler. many times about when you're getting married, everything is heightened. It's all heightened, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:11 But, no, she doesn't need to worry about a toddler upstaging her at all. I think if you don't want to read any more, we've ended on quite a light-hearted one there. Sure. Yeah? You done? Ain't no hold'em. Right, so do join us again in another episode
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Starting point is 01:08:47 That's it. Is her eyebrow up? I can do the eyebrow thing as well. Yeah. Am I doing it? No. You were a little bit. I feel like I've forgotten how to do it
Starting point is 01:08:57 because yours is always up. I don't do it. You do it. I don't do it. It's like a natural thing, babe. Yours is like permanently. What'd you say? What'd you say? When I have my eyebrows done
Starting point is 01:09:07 Don't do it where it is Bring it back down We're going out next weekend We're very excited It's not a disco It's called a disco but it's not a disco A friend is a DJ You said disco
Starting point is 01:09:22 It's not a disco darling You did say disco though It does say disco on it And that's why I keep saying disco I feel like yeah It's not a disco Well you say everyone I'm the only one that commented and went disco though
Starting point is 01:09:38 Yeah that's because I've already done it to Helen It's not a disco Yeah Disco Nine E's house to Helen she's just like it's not a disco yeah er disco disco 90s house so we're going to be all glam
Starting point is 01:09:50 I'm excited so you know when you think we look amazing because you see that photo we like had loads of makeup on if you watch the videos
Starting point is 01:09:59 you'll see I always look like that she does not so if you look at the I mean they can see you don't. Flawless. Flawless.
Starting point is 01:10:09 But we will be next weekend. I'm excited. A little boogie on down. A little bam, bam, bam. A little this ain't Texas. Woo! Meow, meow, meow, meow. I don't think that'll be playing because it's 90s.
Starting point is 01:10:21 90s house. So the best. I ain't being funny. Where did I read that? Oh, there. House, house. House, house. 90s house, so the best. I ain't being funny. Where did I read that? Oh, there. House, house. House, house. 90s house, house.
Starting point is 01:10:30 90s house. House. Yeah, so 90s house, house. House, house. House, house. What's the difference between 90s house and house? I've no idea. Do I know what house is?
Starting point is 01:10:40 You're right. I just, you know. There's quite a few DJs on as well. Do we know those people yeah they were there last time did we speak to him
Starting point is 01:10:49 I did oh did I not I don't know oh were they DJing you and Jenna were too busy being number one fans we were number one fans
Starting point is 01:10:58 because I know him and we know him yeah yeah yeah yeah we were in every video we're like at the front best night ever it was actually it's like i had a really great time
Starting point is 01:11:17 who told you to calm down i'm like you do know i'm only drinking who told you to calm down i know the other boys. Okay. Love you, bye. Bye-bye, my darling. This ain't Texas. That was quite good.

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