Middle-aged opinion - Paris Bennett, I killed my sister to hurt my mum
Episode Date: May 14, 2025Today is the deep and tragic case about Paris Bennett and the killing of your sister Ella Bennett aged for Paris 13 at the time killed sister brutally to punish his mum he has since been diagnosed. as... a psychopath sociopath and a narcissistic the story is deep. I hope you follow along and understand I've added some audio From the family trigger warning for this one. We hope you enjoy the lesson Ellie and Emily #Psychopath #Truecrime
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What do you think of that? What don't you think of that?
Well I think that girl has got everything she needs.
These um, what?
Do these ones look as spazzy?
No, they look fine on. It's when they're off they look spazzy.
These are the different, these are the more spazzy looking ones.
I don't know.
The other ones are thick strap ones with the ankle whereas these ones are not.
They're more Jesus crazy.
They're Velcro.
Now they're spazzy They're Velcro. Now they're spicy, yeah? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha today. Okay. I've got an idea of how we do it. Okay. We'll just go with your ideas.
Right, but let's do the poll first. And then we've got another one in the bank
because we aren't recording next Friday. Yes. Okay. Wait, are we gonna put this one out this week?
No. We're gonna put the other one in the other one. You put one out this week and then I'll do this
the following week. Because I kind of want to see. Yeah. But if, um, if you're up to it, you said you found a few cases.
This is a more simple case.
I've done very minimal, minimal, but like I've seen bits and pieces.
I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
But things that have actually caught, because I don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I listen as I'm cleaning. So for me's like, I mean I do want to do Fred and Rose,
I mean I'll be doing my research as it is but they are so complex and there's so much information,
kind of like Joseph but more and it's more on a timeline, this is not really on a timeline
more and it's more on a timeline. This is not really on a timeline. But there is, I've forgotten about the woman, I've forgotten her name, but she killed her kids and I want
to do her as well. So she will be more simple to research. So it's about finding someone,
but if not, I will anyway. So it will will then by the time we're back doing the podcast it will be here again so if
I do have it we're doing it if not we'll just do our TikToks and have a laugh
let's see how broken we are right and so it's Paris Bennett yeah okay Bennett
I was gonna say yeah I'm gonna get a few places wrong as well because obviously
even though I've written them down my brain will go where's that then right hello come to the building. I'm gonna get a few places wrong as well because obviously even
though I've written them down my brain would go where's that thing? Right hello
everyone and welcome to Middle-aged Opinion I'm your host Ellie and I'm your
host Emily and today Ellie is talking about Paris Benin. Yes. I don't know who
that is. He's a wrong one. Oh it's a bloke. Yeah. Oh it's a bloke. Oh
right okay yeah fair enough yeah. I don't know. Paris is a girl. Yeah yeah I had Paris
Hilton in my head. Yeah fair enough. Yeah Paris is a boy. Okay so actually that does
help clearing that up. I mean I'm going to talk about him but at the beginning I haven't mentioned that he's a boy and you're right it's a unisex name so Paris is a dude yeah so it's true crime yeah but today he's
gonna be different from when how I did my first true crime because that was easier to go on a
timeline and because I think because I feel a bit more comfortable I've even written in some of my disgust-ness and I've got my own psychological theories
as well because I feel like I'm qualified at this point. He also I mean I
don't know if I put it in because obviously you know what it's like but he does do a interview
with Piers Morgan so Piers Morgan for anyone that doesn't know he used to be
a TV presenter yeah of the news yeah and you even allowed to yeah you either
really like him or you don't I happen to agree with some of his views.
Yeah, I'll say some.
Probably more than not.
And that's just my personal personal thing.
I don't know if that's because I used to watch him every morning on GMTB.
Yeah, but he then did a series which you
could look up no matter where you are, I'm sure, on Talking with Psychopaths.
I think I watched one of those.
Yes so I've watched that, I've watched home videos and I'm going to try, I said to Emily,
I should be able to put in the 911 call and I should be able to put in home footage and other
footage. So what I'm going to do is when I edit the video ready to upload I'll do one with all
of that footage in. If it gets taken down then the other one will then go up in its
place with just me talking and pictures. That's all I can do. But shall I get into it? Let's
go. Right, sorry if it's not understandable. I've done my best as per usual. Right. Paris Bennett, born on
October the 10th 1993, so younger than us. Rude. Yeah. He was... Why do you have to point that out?
Well, because we're getting to that point in our lives. He was diagnosed, he has
been diagnosed, sorry, as a psychopath and a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.
So an all-round treat. He sounds a delight.
Yes, his mother Charity Lee, born in Georgia, born to Bobby and Kyle Bennett.
Charity is Paris's mum and her mum and dad are Bobby and Kyle Bennett.
They had their own company, the Parentier, a trucking company.
They were financially wealthy and they lived on a ranch.
When Charity was six years old, her father was murdered by a hitman.
After this, Charity would start to fall apart. Her mum was married between six, seven or eight
times. Charity cannot remember as she was married so many times. She has lost count over the years
and the relationship between Charity and her mum was very toxic. So now I go like basically I've watched the video videos of her mum so her mum
has also given interviews and there is also other home footage of her mum etc but really the
watching the interview of her mum she almost admits to having the father killed. She basically admits, she did go to, I should
mention, it did go to, she was arrested, it did go to trial and she was found
innocent. Okay. And obviously it's double jeopardy so it's not like she
can be tried again and she basically admits in interviews that she has done, that she hired the hitman to
kill her husband's charity's dad.
So all of this is going on.
For any reason?
Money.
Oh my Jesus.
Yeah.
So all of this is going on, but I do, later on I'm going to go further on and explain
to you.
So sorry if I'm like tracking off, but I think it's important in the outcome of this whole
situation psychologically amongst the whole family. So right yeah so she basically admits to having
her husband killed by a hitman. Charity's mum says she no longer manipulates like she used to saying Paris, Ella, the four, so sorry, so Paris is Charity's
eldest son, Ella is her second child of four years old, there's quite an age gap
between Paris and Ella, and Paris, Paris's mum talks about how everybody in the family, Paris, Ella, Charity, are very manipulating.
She talks about that. She's a manipulator but she says they're all manipulators.
She also explains that her other daughter, which I couldn't find anything about her,
was not so good at manipulating. child that anyone could wish for. We were inseparable.
And then from 12 on, it's been, it's like an alcoholic.
It's up and down, up and down, up and down.
If she'd get mad at me because I wouldn't allow her
to do something, it was, well, you murdered my daddy.
So she was a good manipulator.
But we all are.
Paris is, Ella was.
I would be lying to you if I said that I wasn't.
We all manipulate each other.
We're all spoiled rotten.
My other daughter came.
I don't think she's quite as good.
She didn't have as good a teacher
because I don't do it so much anymore.
I don't have a company to manipulate. I don't have drivers to manipulate. I don't have a jury to manipulate.
But the way that she talks about a four-year-old girl being manipulated is another indication that the mum is
Off her fucking rocker, right?
Technical terms. Yeah, no, that's I've it's more I'm good. I'm giving more of my opinion this time
Right
It is my belief that charity's mum shows psychological
narcissistic tendencies Like like there's something
wrong with her mum. There's something wrong with all of them. Charity's mum was always
disappointed in her daughter. Charity was never able to please or satisfy her mum, no
matter what she did. She was academically clever and a high achiever, even finishing high school early because she was so clever.
She did become addicted to drugs and thought about ending her life.
Her mum then kicked her out of the house, giving her a hundred dollars and said,
if you want to kill yourself, then crack on. No sympathy and no empathy from her mum and honestly I can't
stress enough from watching the interview how disturbing her mum comes across yeah.
It's the way that she speaks about Charity and Paris and Ella yeah it's very disturbing.
and Paris and Ella. Yeah, it's very disturbing.
It was then that Charity found out
she was pregnant with Paris.
Once she felt pregnant,
she decided to turn her life around for her son.
Charity was a good mum to her son, Paris,
making sure that he had everything that he needed.
His dad didn't stick around after Paris was born,
so it was simply charity and Paris against the world. Paris was liked, he was extremely
clever with an IQ of 141, which puts him above most people. I believe it's class as a genius.
He's an excellent drawer with creative skills
and he still draws to this day.
Charity said that he was calm growing up and a nice boy.
All of Paris's teachers would comment
on about how clever he was.
They spent all their time together with just the two
of them until Paris was 10 years old and Charity would fall pregnant with her second child Ella.
Paris was really upset by this and did not want to share the affection of his mum. Charity was
worried how he would behave with the baby when it was born because of the things that he would say before the baby was born. But when Ella was born on the
12th of April 2002 Paris was like an adoring brother showing so much love to
his sister. However if you go on to watch the footage of Paris and Ella might be because I know
the story but in my opinion he's side-eyeing he's grabbing around the
neck and he's saying things like I want to kill you which isn't particularly
normal for a 10 year old right it's not it, it's not, it's just not a normal thing for
anyone to say no. Right, I think, I've put things to remind me, I think the
warning signs were there but I also think you can miss shit like that, do you
know what I mean? Like as a parent you're like oh shut up don't talk like that do you know what I mean when you when two siblings are together but now we know we know um uh yeah I've mentioned that he says that he wants to kill
her in a home video they both have different dads the dad of Ella also left when she was young very
she was Ella was a very vibrant young girl with a massive personality and happy-go-lucky attitude.
She was bossy and if you remember earlier I mentioned that grandma said that Ella was
a manipulator from the day dot.
I also want to quickly put in there, we all need to remember he's a diagnosed psychopath.
It is impossible to love.
So everything that Paris is doing.
Logical.
Yeah, so everything that Paris is giving, showing,
I love my sister, blah, blah, blah,
is not real, it's managed behavior because they
simply can't but yeah so the mum then mentions again about how Ella is very
manipulative which is a bizarre thing to say about a little girl she loved her
brother Paris so much charity talks about how close they were but like I said if you watch
the footage it gives a completely different a different set of
circumstance but like I say it's probably because I've now I've now know
the case. Charity then goes on in another home video footage to ask his mum, what would be the thing if I said
or that would hurt you the most?
And then Paris answers by saying,
Charity, AKA his mum, losing both her children.
So in his head already,
he's like, what's gonna hurt you the most?
And then he says, losing both your children.
So all three of them had a good routine just getting on with things. When Paris was 11 years old Charity would relapse on her drugs and Paris would essentially be raising Ella and looking
after his mum while she was in a drug-induced state. He began to resent her for this
because the burden of looking after his sister
and his mum was obviously too much.
Charity had been trying to get her business off the ground,
but things were not taking off.
She was taking cocaine.
She took these drugs for six months
and Paris felt completely and utterly betrayed by her relapse.
He lost faith and trust in his mum and he started to resent her. Paris's behaviour would now change,
becoming dark. They would move from place to place, meaning that poor Paris would have to
make new friends constantly. Charity, Paris
and Ella would then go back and move in with their toxic grandmother, Mum. They moved in
so that Charity could get back on her feet but being around that toxicity could not have
been easy on Charity or the children. Charity and her mum had an extremely weird and
distant relationship making the living situation uncomfortable for everybody
and toxic. Paris was now starting to act out leading to an incident where he
would be playing with Ella, he would then grab a toy breaking it. Ella would start to cry and Charity would then
and then Charity would then punish Paris and Paris would go into the kitchen
grabbing the knife and started waving it around. He ran out of the house and then
he would threaten both his mum and grandmother with the knife. They managed to get the knife off of him but then would have him
admitted for psychological assessment. Paris stayed for a week before Charity would go and get him.
No report was given upon release but later it comes out that apparently she did get the report so her
mum said but charity is adamant that she did not get the report the report states
Paris was obsessed with killing and shooting people in in he wanted to
cause harm to people the fact that this was never given to
charity if that's true is crazy in my opinion because surely that should have
been a red flag like he's gone in he's been assessed and they're like shit and
then they've just released him yeah I don't know if because I don't know how
things work but because I think
it was the mum and grandma that admitted him, I don't know if that still gives them power
over.
I don't know because he'd be classed as a minor as well wouldn't he?
That's what I mean. So I don't know.
Not classed as he is. Yeah. So doing the research I don't know had he had had these
assessments and he was also having suicidal thoughts so I don't know if she would have let
him stay anyway. Do you see what I mean? She went and got him before she was told to come and get
him. I think even if they were like, even if she did
get them a report saying he's talking about hurting people, rady-rara, I don't think she would have
let him stay in the unit anyway. I think she would have had him released regardless of, yeah, that's
my personal belief and that is literally from the research I've done. Excuse me. Paris would smack his head
against the wall until it was bleeding. There's also footage of him threatening
aggressive aggressive behavior towards his sister Ella. So there's even more
footage like as times going on this she does a lot of home videos and in these home videos, you can just, the way he talks to her, the way he grabs her around, there's just so many fucking warnings.
Do you know what I mean? It's all there, but nobody was putting it together. Do you know what I mean? Right, in 2007 the family moved to Aberdeen, Texas.
On February 4th 2007 Charity was at work and she had a babysitter watching Paris and Ella.
Somehow Paris managed to convince the babysitter to leave early to go home around 10 p.m. At night
for some reason the babysitter agreed she
Yeah, so he's 13 and that is for and he's like go home at 10 and
The babysitter's like okay
Okay
Could you imagine? No, I can imagine because she's being paid. Yeah.
She's being paid to watch these kids. Could you imagine coming home and being like...
I don't know, we sent her home. A 13 year old's gone okay bye and she's gone okay.
Yeah, not, not, no, no, no. Not bitch you're getting paid. Yeah, yeah. But she's also
listened to a minor over an adult. Yeah, Charity's at work, she's hired a babysitter to come and watch the kids while she's working
late at the bar and you're gonna fuck off home?
Why come in the first place?
Okay.
We're mad.
Yeah.
Yeah, I am mad about it.
I am mad about it.
That's ridiculous.
Right.
Paris would go to the kitchen and get a knife.
Ella was sleeping. He then proceeded to stab his sister 17 times.
He strangled her. He then found a friend for a total of six minutes and said that it hurt his sister.
He then rang 911 who told him to do CPR.
He was very persistent as he said that she was already dead.
He'd already killed her.
He said that he was hallucinating
and that he thought your sister was a demon.
He kept resisting to do CPR.
He then pulled her to the floor and proceeded to do CPR, he then pulled her to the floor and proceeded to do CPR. So messed up. OK, calm down, OK? I want you to stay on the phone with me, OK? Mhm. Now, what's your sister's name?
Her name is Ella.
Ella Bennett.
How old is Ella?
Four.
Four years old?
How old are you?
13.
Is she bleeding anywhere?
Yeah, she's bleeding all over the bed.
She's a good lady.
Stabbed her.
What did you stab her with?
A knife. OK, where'd you stab her. What did you stab her with? A knife.
Okay, where did you stab her?
Lots of places.
Okay, Paris, where's the knife?
It's on the bed right there.
I didn't mean to.
I know Paris.
Okay, I want you to stay calm for me, okay?
Okay, listen to me.
Paris? for me okay? Okay, listen to me.
It turns out that he wasn't actually doing CPR, he was pretending to do CPR.
It was later found out that he was actually pacing
backwards and forwards and counting with no attempt
to save his sister's life.
backwards and forwards and counting with no attempt to save his sister's life.
Uh, right. So, I mean,
I feel like from stab, seven stabbing and strangulation. 17.
17 stabbing and strangulation that she possibly was already
gone. She was gone, but he, he didn't even try babe.
Like he stabbed his baby sister 17 times, strangled her,
and the first responders are saying,
this is what you need to do.
Like I say, if I can include the video call
at the 911 call, I will.
And they are, he sounds very distressed,
and they are telling him, he's like,
I've been hallucinating, I'm seeing demons, radi-ra-ra, and they're telling him he's like I've been hallucinating I'm seeing demons riding ra ra and they're telling him what could possibly help
because you keep the blood pumping but he he's like now fuck that you know I
mean fuck that bitch and he sounds really sad he's crying but later his mum
she said that that is not what Paris sounds like when he's sad or he is
crying so he is now because he's a so let's not it people remember he is a
psychopath he is pretending to be sad and distressed he's not sad or distressed
at all in fact he probably couldn't give a fuck. He clearly didn't. He didn't give a fuck. But the fact that the mum had to be seen and heard doing the correct thing.
That's what I'm saying.
And it's very, it's mimicry.
But the fact that the mum was like, yeah, that's not what he sounds like when he cries.
It's fucking mental, right?
And like, if I can put it in the footage footage you see this bloke and the way he talks
and all that and when he's asked these hard questions the way that he is almost trying so
hard to give a human response to something is quite terrifying. Right apparently Ella was found
facing downwards another indication that CPR was not a stun. Paris was
arrested immediately. They then sent an officer who went to Charity's work at
the bar to tell her that her daughter was hurt. She immediately wanted to go to
LR but they wouldn't let her. They didn't tell her immediately that she was dead.
She was thinking it was an accident had
happened and that she couldn't imagine that her son had killed his sister,
Charity. Yeah because like also the babysitter was there too. Oh what the
fuck! You know the babysitter? Yeah the babysitter. Someone broken in.
Right Charity believes that Paris said... Charity at this point believes what Paris says about seeing
his sister as a demon. However, this is not what was going on. The police interviewed Paris and he
kept changing news stories. He now says that he was sleeping next to his sister, he woke up scared
from a nightmare and his sister was a demon when he woke up.
No mention of where the knife fucking appeared from but whatever. Andrew's pillow standard.
Yeah normal, it's normal. The police now start to back. She had been stabbed 17 times, beaten, strangled
and Paris' semen was found in her bed and in his shorts. Yeah, you didn't see that coming,
did you? Paris had been watching hardcore porn and watching snuff films. Snuff films is essentially
porn, abusive porn that includes murder sometimes. It is now believed that this aroused him,
the murder of his sister has aroused him to the point where he's ejaculated
whilst committing the crime
Charity was absolutely mortified and confronted Paris and asked him straight away
Whether it was on purpose Did you ejaculate on your sister on purpose?
Whether it was on purpose or not
Reluctant to answer Paris looked at her and said,
it took you fucking long enough. Obviously, when Charity
realized that this was a crime, because obviously he's a fucking
sicko, he's like, yeah, it took you fucking long enough. So
obviously, all that fakery is then gone so the mask is now off and he's like yeah
obviously and she confronted him about the semen and he got really angry
punching the wall and flipping the table and walking off. Six months later in court, the prosecution...
He's 13 at this point, right?
He's 13 years old. It's hard to remember, right?
Right, so the case was very easy for the police.
They didn't go much into his ejaculation, etc.
Why he did it, he'd admitted it, so it made it all very very easy for everybody concerned.
He received a 40-year prison sentence because he was 13 at the time and this is the maximum he
could have got. If he was an adult he probably would have been put to death. The first couple of years he refused visitors and
didn't open up. He refused his mum even though she kept reaching out. Paris would
only talk to people in prison through drawings and letters he got. He also
started to get into fights. He repeatedly hitting a boy that didn't hit back. Paris went under psychological assessment again.
He had psychological narcissism, sociopath, and obviously he is a psychopath.
Paris did,
hold on, he finally did accept visits from his mum
and their relationship was strained.
He continued to torment her by saying,
I did it to hurt you.
I did it so you would lose both your children
at the same time.
I did this because you relapsed on drugs. He knew how to hurt her the most. Paris knew that killing Ella would
send him to prison and he would spend most if not all of his life in prison.
There's no emotions, there's nothing from him. He did this anything to
punish his mum. After Paris confessed this to Charity, she did think about
cutting him off completely but she didn't. Paris' story continues to change
all the time. It's like he's doing it to torment his mother further he's always denied any sexual motivation behind the murder or
becoming aroused by killing his sister he then said that he put on the movies
just to torment his mum further but I personally believe that he was
aroused by the videos and the killing of his sister.
Later he did admit to sexual motivation behind the murder.
He said that he sexually abused her that night and he killed her to cover it up.
But because he's changing his story so much, it's difficult for anyone to believe what
he's saying.
Yeah, we know the facts.
The facts are there were semen in his shorts and on the bed next to Ella.
We know that he stabbed her 17 times.
He strangled her and beat her.
Do we know for definite this was a complete sexual motivation?
No, we don't.
Do I personally
believe that he is a sexual sadist yes I do he hasn't been diagnosed that way
because obviously I'm going to more at the end but obviously for a psychopath to
feel anything they have to work a lot harder than anybody else. Right anyway, I know.
He then later goes on to physically attack Charity while she visits him in
prison. He flipped the table, I mean he likes doing that, pinning her against the
wall and started to choke her. She couldn't breathe. She thought that she was gonna die
He released her and let her go. So now anybody that finished
Visits him in prison. There is a glass
Like thingy-bob now so people can't sit with him anymore and I'm assuming that's because of his violent
tendencies him anymore and I'm assuming that's because of his violent tendencies. Charity now believes that he
is going to go on and kill eventually. Paris likes the limelight, he has a profile on writerprisoner.com
I couldn't find it, I really did try, I even went on writerprisoner.com and I couldn't find his profile.
I really did try and went on writeaprisoner.com and I couldn't find his profile.
He's very arrogant in his advertisement.
He talks about how unique he is, how clever he is,
and how lucky people would be to talk to him.
He said that when the sorting hat was shuffled
before tossing him into slithering from Harry Potter.
It didn't stumble at all. Charity Mum talks about how he was a wonderful child
up until the age of 12 years old when she became distant from him.
She keeps talking about how manipulative she is.
Literally, this is the whole grandmother's MO.
How all of them, especially Ella, were manipulated.
This woman is fucking sick, yeah?
She also sends Paris, I mean, I have put that in my note, she also sends Paris while he's in prison
My mother was sending Paris really inappropriate material for a boy in prison for murdering his sister
He wanted a science fiction book, so I had it sent to him and they denied it because inside the book there's a picture of a woman and her breasts
are exposed, but it's just a drawing.
So he says, take the book apart, send me a chapter at a time.
And when you get to the picture with the bare breasts, he said, tell Cayman just to draw
a bra on it.
Let's see, raping women, murdering them, bludgeoning people to death. So I went to the authorities and I'm like,
listen, my mother can talk to parents, they can write letters, she can come visit, but
no more books. That's it. No more books. And that's when I got sued. She and Paris sued
me in 2009.
Which include murder after the sexual assault
of these anime characters.
So, his grandmother is sending him these fucking weird
anime fucking disgusting shit and then charity has to speak to the prisoners as absolutely nothing nothing else
but I thought when things go into prisons it would all be monitored and scanned.
Yeah but I think anime it's it was like a clause like she managed to get get it through
because it was anime. Do you see what I'm saying? Because it was like a clause, like she managed to get it through because it was anime.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Because it was a cartoon.
Kind of, kind of.
But it was going through and then,
I mean they were restrained.
That's what I'm saying,
oh because it's a plastic knife, it's okay.
Exactly, but Charity and her mum are restrained
at this point and she's doing this shit.
Charity finds out and she's like,
apps are fucking lutely not not do you know what I mean?
I mean this I don't to me that the grandmother is giving such effects of she might also have be a
psychopath and I don't know if it's like fucking genetics but I will talk about that. So anyway, I'm going to jump back into the murder a little bit.
So Charity's mum was married to her dad, as I stated at the beginning.
They separated and they divorced. This is before the rest of the marriages.
She remarried Charity's dad 57 hours after they were married.
That is when they hit the hire killed
her husband
57 hours so it's even more obvious she married him and then had him killed quickly
So she remarried him to have him killed quickly so she wouldn't have to be with him
But would then inherit the ranch the money the company
I mean, she's like if you look at her face in the interview, she's like,
she's like, yeah, you know, I couldn't really agree because I had a company to run. It's
like you fucking mad bitch. Honestly. So everybody kind of know she basically admits to it as
I've said to you before, she basically killed I killed him do you know what I mean? without saying I killed him she's telling you that she had him killed
right anyway moving on I want to get off the ride oh Charity was six years old by the way when her
father was killed so right but anyway back into where we're at Charity has a boy now called Phoenix. She let Paris have a relationship with his brother,
which is fucking crazy, right?
By phone, he writes letters intending to give them
to Phoenix when he is 18 years old.
I, I, I...
What? I can almost understand the mum seeing Paris, I can almost understand it.
Yes, because at the end of the day, it's unconditional love, right?
It's her son, even though her son killed her daughter.
Yep. To hurt her.
to hurt her. But why would you expose a new baby another child to somebody who killed your child? It's fucking mental. It's at the end I'm telling you babe it's
fucking mental this whole case. Right. Somebody take that child away and save
him. Paris talks about how he loves Phoenix,
but lets everybody remember
he doesn't understand what love is.
Because he loved Ella too.
He talks about how much he loves his brother.
First of all, he's never met his brother.
Second of all, he actually physically
doesn't understand what that means.
It's not possible. He might feel something, but he absolutely, he doesn't understand what that means. It's not possible. He might feel something
but he absolutely he doesn't. Right. Charity has been told by
professionals that she needs to stop wasting her money on Paris and
start saving to change her and Phoenix's identity to get away her son from
from Paris because they believe he is going to kill her and her son she keeps
being told this so anybody that meets and assesses him is like he is going to
kill you and Phoenix
But she can tell by Tim a cake this way yes, I love him so much
But they like no no no okay to love him, but you know what go and do it afar. They're like no you're not you're not listening He's fixated and he's going he's going to find you and kill you is he gonna get out
He's he's gonna get out of prison. I'll tell you when. So he's like 31
now. He was born 93. So 1, 32. Yeah. Right. They keep telling him make a new identity and a new
life for yourself. Paris says that when he's released that he is going to kill his mum.
that when he's released that he is going to kill his mum. So he's even said that like at times at times through this whole thing he said he's gonna do it. So
he said it but he is still gonna be released. Yes. I explained to you why. I
will explain. I will get there. I think that she's just trying to get as much
time with Paris as she can until she can't anymore. She's making a mistake in my
opinion. Massive. Yeah. I've said again, everybody, professionals, everybody is saying he's going to
kill you, including Paris. He's telling you, he's telling you I'm going to kill you but here you are with your new
little boy who could die and the little boy is the spit of his sister.
Anyway, right.
Oh that's, that's right.
So there are a few little updates.
I'll tell you when he's going to be released.
That's pretty much it but I will tell you when he's going to be released. That's pretty much it. But I will tell you when he is going to be released. Right. Paris, right.
So he's up for parole 27. Yeah. 2027. Oh, I don't think because he's constantly assessed
by psychotherapists and all this sort of thing. I don't think he's going to be released on parole. I don't think so.
I think if they do, it's a mistake because I think he's a murderer. I think he's a murderer
and I think he's a sexual sadist. I just do from watching him, listening to him. But no matter what,
because he was 13 when he committed the crime, he will be released on the 4th of February 2047
and he will be age 53 at the time. No matter what he's coming out of prison
Which is fucking mental right? You cannot, you cannot, you cannot release somebody who has verbally stated, I'm gonna
kill someone.
But they can because he's done his time.
Had he been 18 when he committed the crime, they could have kept him in, but because he
was 13
No, they can't do that, but they can and they are what they're doing is putting
the public
At risk he's gonna kill he's gonna go after his mom and kill him there is I'm hoping I did
I did I did put it in here. Let me just go back to this quickly because I've just remembered I did put it in here
I did put it in here. Let me just go back to this quickly
because I've just remembered I did put it in here.
Right, so there on the June the 23rd, 2021,
I couldn't find, but Charity Lee, Paris's mum,
has a Facebook page.
She also, I can't find it,
she also opened a charity to help victims of crime, like,
you know, murder, that sort of thing. People that have been, which is a wonderful thing
to do. But there is a, there was a post that I found from someone saying that on June the
23rd, 2021, Charity lead posted on her Facebook,
I have now completely walked away from my eldest child
and I am not looking back.
It is one thing to be a child who makes horrible decisions.
That's how she says it, horrible decisions.
Oops.
Yeah, whoops.
It is another thing altogether to have a 27 year old man who keeps making
decisions that put your family at risk. The final straw was learning he was involved with
a woman who lived two hours away from us and was on a bond for planning a mass shooting.
Boundaries have been crossed too many times. I've brought a gun, learned how to shoot,
and I am good now.
And, hold on, and said goodbye.
I finally accepted that it is okay to love my son at afar,
but really dislike the man that he is.
Too much information, come back a bit, okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he was in a relationship.
In some sort of relationship.
Yes.
Like a D, like a pen pal.
Yes, yes.
Some bullshit relationship.
Yeah.
With clearly another psycho.
Yeah.
And what they were, he was telling her what to do and she was gonna go do this thing or
that when we got out they were gonna go do it?
No, I'm grasping.
She was-
What?
She is on bond, which means on bail, for planning to commit a mass shooting. So she is on bond from the jail,
like, meaning she's on bail.
Because-
So what is she also a young offender
and they've met in-
This is what I'm saying.
So basically, basically he is going,
he's like teaming up.
He's teaming up with fucking wrong-uns.
Like, you know, this is arousing,
this woman is fucking sick like me
Do you know what I mean?
And this woman is out on bail. Yes
Literally up the road as such from where the mum is mum is
He could be saying yes
and she potentially
could be like Yes, doing little drive-b brother. Yes. And she potentially could be like, yes.
Doing little drive-bys.
Yes.
This is not okay.
No.
So, in conclusion, I've done a little research as I do.
First of all, I researched.
Wait, has she, so Facebook is gone?
Facebook is gone?
It might not be gone.
I can't find her. I don't know why I can't find her but I can't find her.
Well hopefully because she's gone into like hiding and into Sanatria and changed her name
and moved fucking countries. Yeah it says that she is a public speaker for like obviously what
her son did but... There's too much information. Oh I can't find any
recent footage of her doing that. The other the other thing is as well babe I don't believe
Charity is innocent in... No. Her son becoming a psychopath because the home sound really
really fucking horrible after everything that she's been through
but I don't think she had any business becoming a mom and
Another thing is well, there's three fathers to her children
she's with none of them and she's like we're better off like it's her whole fucking demeanor of
It's all of it it's really difficult to explain but when you're watching them you're like
well man you're all fucked up. Do you know what I mean? So anyway a psychopath and sexual sadism
are related. Now when I just looked at psychopath obviously psychopath is someone that doesn't feel,
really doesn't feel at all and works extra hard in risky behaviour to have some sense of something.
But then I was like, is he a sadist? Like is that why he beat his sister, became aroused and realised,
Is that why he beat his sister, became aroused and realized... Do you know what I mean?
Sexually assaulting her, hurting her, did he become...
And then was like, oh my God, do you know what I mean?
And gets off on the fact that he destroyed his mum.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Which is giving sexual sadism.
Now, I haven't heard a psychologist say that, but it's my personal belief.
Right. heard a psychologist say that but it's my personal belief. Right, so a psychopath and sexual
sadism are related but different yeah? Right. So the construct of a psychopath often
characterizes by no empathy, emotion and detachment. Many exhibit sadistic tendencies. They do not always display sexual sadism. I think he did
when he murdered his sister in order to, in order, like he ejaculated etc, which is excitement, right? Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, so I think that he does
Not only does he
distribute the
psychopathic
Tendencies he's giving
Cray-cray so he and
We know he's a psychopath and we know he's a sociopath. So we know what
psychopath means, I've covered that. So they're detached, there's no empathy,
there's no emotion, they don't feel anything the way we do. Love, compassion,
there's nothing there. The disorder can be managed if it's caught early enough like
there are psychopaths amongst us who mimic behavior to fit in and something
comes along also I did research are you born a psychopath or are you made into a
psychopath now actually it is both so you're born like we talked about with the other fucking
weirdo, Joseph Fritzel. So you, there's something wrong with you when you're born but you can go
down path A or you can go down path B, do you know what I mean? Can you control those urges blah blah
blah. So you're born with, I also looked at the brain of psychopaths.
Now, their frontal lobes and the back lobe here is pretty much non-existent,
which is where we get our empathy, our love, our caring, our understanding.
Theirs isn't lit up or barely lit up.
So, yes, they can be made and yes, also, they are born that way.
It's really both both which I found
really interesting because I thought you'd just be born a psychopath but no
it is it is both born and then your environment that so potentially he could
have not have killed can choose or your environment chooses whether your falls
yeah whether you are a psychopath that kills or you're a psychopath that masks
to fit in with but doesn't.
And you get those rrrrrr crazies but you're like what's wrong and I'll carry on going
on.
Yes.
Please don't do that to me again and then walk away.
Yes.
Or you go that way.
But then if someone does it they're not upset by it, they're not feeling it.
If I piss you off, you'll be like,
Ellie, you've really hurt my feelings,
and I'll be like, oh, your mum.
But anyway, and then I was like, am I a psychopath?
But anyway, you will feel that, and I will feel inside,
oh my god, I'm sorry, but they have none of that.
They can pretend, do you know what I mean,
but they won't actually fully understand
while you're upset that your cat died. Do you see what I mean? But they won't actually fully understand while you're upset that your cat died.
Do you see what I'm saying? Because there's no real...
But the circumstances
that led him
to kill his sister, to hurt his mum, I don't think fully come from her relapsing on drugs.
Because of course he had no empathy and no sympathy
that she did that, but I think it is a combination
of the grandmother, of the environment.
And like I said, listen, I don't want to get a charity.
I really, I really don't want to be that fucking bitch.
But when you watch, there's just,
it's like when Ella was born, it kind of felt like he was on the back burner a little bit, do you know what I mean?
And I'm not saying that it's charity's fault.
I'm not saying it's just the two of them and then the next minute, yes, there's clearly a man involved.
Yeah.
And then-
Doesn't, never sticks around, she's like, yeah sticks around yeah better off on my own there's just
there's traits about charity and like i say i'm not saying she's not a good mum because
how do we ever know what we were doing that circumstance there's no way that i
can say to you no i wouldn't go and see one of my children up to this point before the second
pregnancy she possibly was a good mum because it seems like he
was a happy child he had friends at school yeah it certainly sounds yes I'm
gonna very lightly quote a normal child child yeah other than obviously the
toxic grandma grandma was a little bit like, eh. Grandma was off her fucking head, like, see, with no emotion.
She has given me...
Psychopath.
A feeling that she, there was thoughts planted into him
because maybe he did feel sad
and she's like, what's the matter with you?
And obviously I'm making this up in my head
because I don't know this. Yeah, yeah. And she's like,'s the matter with you and obviously I'm making this up in my head because I don't know this yeah yeah and she's like well yeah
you don't matter now because mum's got a new baby yeah like I feel like those
sort of words were used yeah and then the fact for her for the Nan to then be
like that baby is a manipulator, is the weirdest sucking thing I've ever heard. Sit the home. That kick was on purpose.
Yeah.
Like, you bitch.
It's come to destroy you and your mother's relationship.
The whole thing.
The conversations.
When you watch Paris, you can see
that there's fuck all there
and he's trying his fucking hardest.
So at one point, Piers Morgan shows Paris
a picture of his sister and then he's like
trying so fucking hard to pretend he's like that was really unfair that you did that to me. I don't
deserve to see a picture of her. There's no remorse, there's no I'm sorry, there's no if I
could go back, there's there's fuck all. He is outright off his fucking head. So then we've got a sociopath. What is a
sociopath? It's antisocial personality disorder. It's kind of similar but not
fully. It's a lack of empathy. It means you don't care and you don't understand
people's feelings. That is it's on the line but not as a fear as a psychopath that doesn't feel love,
etc. It's a mental health condition, it's somebody that doesn't show any regards between the
difference between right and wrong. Do you know what I mean? Also, let's take a minute guys to
think about how hard Paris worked to fake cry and pretend he was doing CPR and how devastated he was
because his sister was a demon. Let's not, he also talks in interviews how he's not psychologically
unwell that he has no mental disorders. That's, this is his, his view is, His view of himself is very distorted.
I did it to punish my mum, but he constantly watches.
So he gets off on people being scared of him.
The pupils dilate.
So before Emily came today,
I was listening to four different psychotherapists
discussing each part of his interviews.
And he, he is going to be
released so if they haven't managed his condition, managed and that's all you can do
then he's very good at faking though so you could if you sat with him you could
believe it but it's the details in the facial expression, the micro things that he does
that give him away and this is what they're able to. It's funny because he's like I totally,
I'm completely love Phoenix but there's nothing in the eyes. There is no, so if you to talk about
one of the kids or I'm to talk about one of the kids, whether I'm happy or annoyed, I'll give a little grin, I'll give a little something, do you know what
I mean? When I say to you guys, they're the worst, but they're the best, it's an automatic
thing for someone who feels emotion when you talk about people to feel the emotion. But
there's nothing and he's trying so hard in the interviews to,
yes, I completely love them.
He also talks about how he could have even
protected Ella from the world,
or took her from the world to hurt his mum.
I completely loved Ella so much, blah, blah, blah,
but you can see that there's nothing there he
absolutely does not love these people and his only goal as a child I reckon
the footage of him saying what would hurt you the most to lose both your
children so he was 10 when she was born and she's just she looks about one so he
was having these thoughts about how can I hurt you fucking most?
Because I think it sexually gets him off.
That's my personal opinion on him.
This is all sexual release
because he's not feeling anything from anywhere.
Not to say that I don't feel sorry for people
that are born that way and can't understand what feeling is,
but I don't think it gives you the right to
no I don't I have he might watch watch us one day and be like coming for you
because we are putting a podcast that podcast out about a psycho a psychopath that's being released from prison. You're like shit I'm busy that day. Yeah
I've got things to do. Yeah we'll be doing the marathon by then. We sign up
for the marathon, don't know why I went off topic there, but yeah that's really
I was it easy to follow or did I? No no. You got it. Okay I hope everyone gets it.
It wasn't as it's not like I was given
loads of timelines here.
I pieced it together, but I wanted to make it more
on how I felt about the case as well.
Hopefully she went back to her mum's either.
Yeah, I mean, maybe she was in a bit of a sorry state
and she needed something to be.
Sure she.
But.
Oh my god. I mean it does like in one of the documentary things I watch she does start talking to her mum again and
it's the whole thing is but I mean even the body language of the way they sit
away from each other and that the whole thing is toxic she needs to take that
little boy yeah she needs it i don't really i don't feel anything for mum no but she needs to make a
real good choice right now for the child what else was interesting interesting that i didn't include
get out yeah 100% so phoenix is your first chance to make a good fucking choice do it do it change your name change your continent leave and change
your appearance child a chance yes to not be killed by his brother but it's funny because that
loves him complete i completely love you but it's funny because so pho Phoenix was born with a heart defect and in the in the
interview and from the mum so this is the mum talking about when she said
Phoenix has been bought at Paris Phoenix has got this heart defect and I was
devastated I couldn't stop crying bitch please you don't give a fuck if anything.
I don't know if he's seen Phoenix but I will include these pictures how similar Ella and
Phoenix are also scares me. Like it scares me do you know what I mean? The fact that he was crying
and devastated on a call when that's not
even what he sounds like. It's scary to think that there are people in the world
that are fucking psychopaths babe and they are walking
amongst us. Not that every, I'm not saying everybody with a mental disorder is
gonna fucking kill someone, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying this man
is being released regardless, end of, full stop.
There's nothing anyone can do unless he commits a crime.
All the psychologists-
He's being aggressive in-
Yeah, but that was when he was a child.
But all the psychologists, every single one I've listened to have said, this man should
not be released. This man is going to kill again. So when it happens, it's not like,
good luck, bye bye now. Unless, unless, see you next week. Which generally it is, unless
he is fully watched closely. But if I was, if I was charity, he won's fully watched closely but if I was if I was charity he won't be
watched closely he will disappear and he will be able to do that yeah because by
the sounds of it he's made little links with other not so clever people yeah
I wanted to see his profile I really did I wanted to read it
fully about how fully in love with himself
because he's also got narcissistic tendencies.
Yeah, self-obsession.
Yeah, yeah.
Self-righteousness.
Yeah.
His opinion is the only correct opinion to manipulate again.
They all kind of fall very similar.
Obviously, you've got your extremes and what I did, like I say, not in all of the things
that I've researched, watched etc. does it talk about the semen?
It doesn't.
So it might be touched on a little bit, but it wasn't really brought up in court or anything
like that either.
It was obviously evidence, but it wasn't like a bigger deal.
Yeah, I know you said that he said that he sexually assaulted her.
Yes, but I believe that.
It sounds like he said it rather than that was proven.
Yes. But he didn't say that he had sex with her.
He could be, you know, like some of these psychopaths do like sexually
assaulting her in ways as he's beating strangling and and this he's then
becoming more and more and more aroused you think 13 years old babe and he's
becoming aroused and ejaculating that feels quite young to me I'm not saying
it's too young I'm not a boy I a boy, I don't really know when all that stuff's and I don't want to talk about it even as I've got two kids but I just, I don't know.
And that is why it was strange to me that nobody's really touched on could he be a sexual sadist.
Maybe it's because he was a minor that it was never fully investigated. Yeah. And he's watching, he's watching-
The dance and how he's watching the porn stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, he's watching the dominatrix,
the murdering porn, all this sort of thing.
And we're not talking about that either.
Are we gonna pretend that that didn't happen?
So how long had that been going on
to the point where he got, well, I'm gonna do that.
I'm actually sexually aroused by these people's pain which is new for me to
have this these feelings he says that he's got this thing in him that makes
him so angry and it's like a build-up a build-up a build-up and I'm controlling
that I mean everything is so monotone with him and I'm controlling that this
that and the other but I think I would be more I'll be more surprised if we don't
do another documentary on him in 20 years than if there isn't one. Because it and I
mean, he's still got a long time. But he'd be 53, we'd be 60 whatever, and then we'd be like, hi, we're middle aged
opinion, guess who the fuck we're talking about again.
Do you know what I mean?
Hello!
Yeah.
That was us.
Because we were all going, hello to die!
I hope I've still got my teeth.
Yeah, it doesn't matter if we do or not, we should put adventures in.
But my point is...
The fuck.
And there's nothing anyone can do to keep him in.
No, I don't believe that. There's gotta be some sort of clause.
There is no clause.
No, because he is a health risk.
A health risk.
To society, it's not just that he's mum and he's like his...
...brother. It it's he is a
menace to society he is not gonna contribute anything to society I told
you unless unless he was and I just got a bit of claws then what I got I'm
writing a letter there has got to be a clause because you cannot release someone that you know is a danger
to themselves as well as other people. Other psychologists said that so when he's giving the
interview to Piers Morgan, other psychological people that are assessing him said he's telling
you what he needs to tell you because
he's got a parole coming up so all of this practice is for the parole board
coming up however even if he's denied parole he is being released on the 4th
of February when did I say 20? Too soon. 20 whatever he'd be 20 60 3 that can't be no 47 47 yeah he's going to
be released no they can't do that look at they are they are not accepting it
I've all my except that unless he does okay unless he does change the laws pretty soon
but you can't they mean to send it's that it's like a cut it's like a it but all I accept that that is not okay unless he does change the laws pretty soon
but he can't he's already been sent it's like a contract has already been sent it's already done
it's done no it can be he was he was a child when he killed because he was a child this means second chance yeah even though he's already stated. Yes But now obviously the the song is different the song is something different every time I'm going to be goods. I'm
Changed. Oh, he also says in
He also says it's not fair that people judge me from one bad
Decision but it but it wasn't one bad decision one bad fatal decision
one and then bad when he's juvie whatever they put him in and then he
hurt other people imagine that's not just one badge imagine describing your
sister's murder as one bad decision I fucked up. Literally he's like I'm not... Slap me on the wrist
and let me go. I'm not that bad. I'm not that bad. Same as uh, Yosef Ritzel when we covered him.
It could have been worse. Could it though? Well, I suppose it could be. Yeah. Who could it have
been worse? This is what I'm saying. Everyone that suffered, suffered the most. You know, it's funny. I don't know if I was so emotional when we did Joseph because I was fucking due on or
because it was harder to talk about because of the captivity.
Yeah, that wasn't...
No, and what made, like I said before in the podcast, it was emotional that they are finding their happy ending.
This little girl hasn't found... there is no happy ending in this story.
Which makes me-
No, and it's not, this isn't finished.
This is not a finished story.
No.
And it's quite scary to think he's 100% being released.
But this isn't over.
No.
Whereas that story is over.
It is done, yeah.
This is not, this has not got the end no written we're right in
the middle yeah we're in the middle and the only way to know is when he's
released we're soon to find out what happened he's got a walkout and
somebody's got a sniper in consent that end the end I mean what matters mom and
child have got to leave the country
Yeah, cuz apparently psychopaths become obsessed. Yes like an object of obsession
He has
Enrolled these nut jobs to be stalking like a hundred percent people are stalking her for him
To make sure he can get to her. Yeah, he knows where she is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah hundred percent
Yeah, no, even knows where she is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
Yeah, no, 100%.
Even if she's already moved.
She's in the same property, you know that?
Even if she has moved right now.
Oh yeah, I don't know.
He knows where she is.
She needs to get offline as well.
She needs to change her name, her identity, everything.
I don't even have plastic surgery at this point.
Honestly.
Why is she ever told it?
She needs to disappear. I don't understand why she was like I'm having I'm having a baby
It's a boy. He's known as Phoenix
I'm not one word would have come out my mouth about another child that I had she tells Phoenix the reason she sees him
Is because he she wants him to understand what unconditional love is and I'm like that's not so he's never gonna understand
That's not unconditional love. It's not good because
He could have known what unconditional love is with a sister
The whole thing's fucked up but that's it guys I hope you enjoyed it I hope it made sense that I follow along
Did you understand it? Yeah.
Okay, good, yeah.
Because I know it went off on little tangents, but it was because that's where my brain was,
mate.
Right, like, follow, subscribe for more content.
I'm not as stressed as I was last time.
I'm just more like, please don't release him.
I'm not okay with this.
If you do listen to this, Paris, please don't come and kill us
We're busy that day
And if so, I'll tell you where me lives first. Yeah, I
Live in America. Yeah me too down the road from your mom
your mother brought
I'm not okay with this. Bye guys!