Middle-aged opinion - True crime

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Today we dive into true crime we hit on summaries of true crime different stories from across the world. It is the last podcast with our old microphone to do excuse the loudness of me and the quietness of Emily we hope you enjoy the episode x

Oh, it bugging well entertains me. And what about the one, the bloke that's like, this is what happens when you throw a cabinet into a basketball rink. And then when he comes up with the next thing, I'm like, ha, ha, ha. Like, honestly. I just like sending it all to you. It cracks me up. Hello, everyone.

We are on number two. We're slightly warmer. What's that, babe? Are you not hot? Well, there you go. So shut your face, bitch. So make the most of it. This is all the warmth we're getting all year round.

Oh, it's Helen. Oh, answer. She wants to know what's going on tonight. Helen't swear you're alive on a podcast hello Helen live from Boosie night you're right hello hello hello you're live on the podcast yes video you Video you in. No, no, no. No, stay. Did she put down? Oh!

Well, that's embarrassing. We're so immature. Right, should we get into it? Yeah. Okay. Let's go. Back to business. Hello.

Hey. You're welcome. Yeah, that's not your bit. No, I'm business. Hello. Hey. Welcome. That's not your bit. No, I'm getting all moody. Don't steal my bit. Switch it up. Do you want to switch it up? No.

Well, you're such a knob. Hello everyone and welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome to Middle-Age Opinion. I'm your host, Ellie. And I'm Emily.

And we are going to be looking at... Every time. True crime. True crime, that was the one. Oh, every time. Every video video it's what what are we doing why are we here where are we remind me again what what's going on we want to know if we're getting any your dave we want to what's my name what's my name yeah but it's obviously what's because you're saying what um that is not like a whole thingy-feary a majigima bob you know no it's not what you know it's yeah so anyway we're um we're not doing obviously the

we're not delving into the full uh true crime of each person these are summaries that we found of you know really heinous people. And we thought we'd go a little bit, you know, we've done paranormal before, which you'll see. And now we think, you know, let's go for real arseholes. Yeah. And those making it worse for everyone concerned. So I'm going to start today better yeah did I start last time I did we did not pay this is it no it's your turn it's your

turn we did remember and then I went first cuz I won even though you got confused and you were like no that doesn't make any sense oh so no in my head I was whoever won went first. And in your head, whoever lost went first. Yeah, because neither of us wanted to go first. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. You're first. All right.

I'm actually going to start with this one. Okay. Because it's something that's happened in the UK. Okay. It looks a little lengthy, but hopefully it reads better than what it is. Okay. So, it's on Reddit, Unsolved Mysteries. Right.

And who was the Batman rapist? I think I liked it because it had Batman in it. Why do I not know about this? not know about this a serial kidnapper and serial rapist committed at least 17 kidnappings and rapes of women and girls between at least 1991 and 2000 in bath and somerset so a full decade today he remains uncalled. Sweet. Something to look forward to. I know.

I want to go bath as well, and now I'm not sure if I want to. That is literally an hour away from Chris and Hayley. Summer of shit. Yeah, so when we go up and get them on the podcast, we pop to bath. Oh, sweet. We're going to have a bath. Pop through. pop through right the batman rapist also known as the riddler okay that rings a bell the riddler the riddler rings a bell to me yeah it's the uk's second most highly elusive phantom predator who abducted and raped at least 17 women and girls between 1991 Okay, just answer it.

Yo. Hey. Can't believe you didn't answer. I know. Rude. But you ran away. Is she even there? Helen.

Helen. Oh, my God. Okay, where are you? I am driving to my mum's. She's going through a tunnel. Have you just got up? No, no, we woke up about half ten. What time did you get in?

I think we left about midnight. Yeah, I knew you'd be raped how you feeling what time are Kennard? Can't hear you. It's where she is. Okie-dokie! Okie-dokie! Yo! Hey, no reception, that would be shit. You sound like shit! Hey guys! yo hey guys hey do you know what the plan is for tonight

Well, James is going to get there early, but it doesn't matter what time we get there. It starts at seven. So as long as we're there between seven and half seven? Yeah, I don't even mind it a bit later. Yeah, I bet. You want to have a snooze, don't you? So I think Jenna's coming up here for about half past five. I don't know if you want to come up and we'll all go from here.

Yeah, fine. Okay, sweet. so just whenever well once I'm done here I'm going home and showering and then put my curly tongue in the curly tongue yeah have you got one of those long things? The thing that goes over your head. Yeah, move on with your life. It's too late. No, it's not.

I'm going to put it on with wet hair, spray it, and use hair dryer. And then when she takes it out, there will still be parts that are wet and it's going to drop immediately. 100%. Right. Listen, hey, it's going to hate. I'm still going to give it a go. Okay, good.

Better turn out right because otherwise I'm gonna show everybody I literally don't know We are losing you. Okay, just... Helen, I can't hear you. You're just going to have to... So I will call you when I leave here and... With a time. I'll give you a time because then I can work out what time,

shower and all that stuff. Love you. Love you, bye-bye. Love you, bye-babes. Right, let's start again. Yeah, you're going to have to start yours again. Okie dokie. Okay. Right. Go.

Okay. So, mine is Reddit's Unsolved Mysteries. Who was the Batman rapist? A serial kidnapper and serial rapist committed at least 17 kidnaps and rapes of women and girls between at least 1991 and 2000 in bath and somerset uk today he remains uncorked so the story the batman rapist also known as the riddler is the uk's second most highly elusive phantom predator who abducted and raped at least 17 women and girls between 1991 and 2000 the case remains unsolved 33 years later more info below luckily timeline timeline of the Batman rapes. So May 21, 1991, a 36-year-old woman was attempting to park her car in Coronation Avenue, Bath, when a mystery man got into the back seat and abducted her at knife point and ordered her to drive to a secluded area where she was assaulted for a couple of hours. October 1991 an 18 year old girl was abducted by a man as marched her up a field and subjected her to what investigators described

as a serious sexual assault investigate excuse me investigators thought the may assaults was an isolated incident at first but after the October victim gave a similar description to what the May victim described investigators began to fear there could be a serial rapist on the loose. The reason investigators on the case believed the rapes were done by the same man, was that investigations showed the rapists seemed to be targeting specific women who were wearing tights. How would he know that if they're in the car? Yeah, bizarre. Yeah.

Okay. In an especially creepy fashion, when the 18-year-old victim was found to have not been wearing tights, the rapist forced her to put on a pair he had bought with him already. Investigators concluded this man had a fetish for women's types and already had his own on hand. Interestingly, there would be a three year gap after this and they thought the rapist had disappeared. But in Novembermber 1994 a 90 year old girl was abducted and raped on the grounds on the american museum in bath this attack was generally thought to have been

an isolated incident again since the rapist hadn't struck in a number of years at the at this point at this point but this would change this would chance this would change in 1996 three more abductions and rapes occurred in Bath and that of another 19 year old girl in Kingwood in 1996 in 1997 three more abductions and rapes were reported in bar on January the 26th 1999 the prep attempt attempted to abduct a 39 year old woman but as she screamed for help the rapist fled the scene that's a jumping age as well isn't it yeah where he dropped a baseball cap he was wearing that had a batman logo on it this is where the batman rapist monica came from and sometimes the alternative monica of the riddler just 10 minutes after this the batman rapist the rid rapist abducted another in the Bath area where he forced her at knife point to drive to the village of Moncton Coombe off A26 where she was assaulted. In January 2000 the case became a part of a number of

unsolved cases reviewed by police in Avron and Somerset. Bath Police urged for any unknown victims of the rapist to come forward and as a result six small women and girls that had been assaulted by the prep came forward and identified themselves. to the Batman rapist occurred when he attempted to abduct a woman by dragging her from a car while her seven-year-old daughter slept in the back seat but the prep fled the scene when the woman screamed for help again. In 2000 a massive task force to catch the prep was put together called Operation Eagle in an attempt to the rapist's DNA and his DNA was found at one crime scene. In January 2001, DNA swabs were taken from every name that came up in the investigation. 2,000 men were approached by...

Arkinel. I know. ...were approached by Avon and Somerset Police and were required to swab for DNA. All 2,000 men were tested and not a single one matched up to the DNA sample they had. After this, the case officially went cold as the Batman rapist,

the Riddler, never struck again. The case remains open today as Avon and Somerset are still willing to take leads about the prep's identity. In October 2012, retired detective Paul James said, it's really unusually, it's really unusually for the rapist to suddenly disappear and never to be heard again. Sorry for the long write up, I hope it was important. So he's either got married and had kids and like their bedroom sex would be very rapey. Some men do that, don't they? in order to stop themselves with the urge? Like if you watch a documentary and these wives don't know anything about it, but then when the police go in and all that,

it turns out that their sex life has been very aggressive. Or he's moved. Or he's moved or he's died or someone thinks that the um the dna um drag wasn't it wasn't wide enough no so also you know um like ancestry and all that yeah they search all of those databases as well for any familiar matches so they look to see if there's any matches on there or they were i don't know what the legal stance is that because some people were trying to sue because they got caught from that

and were pissed off that they got caught because their cousin put in a DNA test. Do you see what I mean? I'm going to say very cool story, but I don't mean causing, you know, it's very informative. That's better. Yeah.

It's quite scary yeah i mean we're we're 2024 and the last sort of update on that but the dna was 2001 yeah so october 2012 the detective i don't think he could have been too old as well to overpower all of those young women i mean a knife would have done it you know i don't know he could have been too old as well to overpower all of those young women. I mean, a knife would have done it. I don't know how I'd react if I had a knife to me. It'd be one or the other, wouldn't it? You'd either scream and fight or you'd submit. Yeah.

So I can't answer that. Luckily, thank God, touch wood, I've not been in the position to, you know. Yeah, and that last one, the lady dragged out the car and her daughter was in the car, like, heaven forbid something. I know. So it tells me that he's either still lurking somewhere but something's changed. Maybe he had an accident.

I've seen a story like that before. If he had an accident, he would have to be dead because when you have an accident, blood transfusions and shit like that then yeah but that's not no that's not at the hospital they don't search the hospital records that is confidential right so this was 95 days ago um this is just an insight of what happened here but I did read it all funny enough for me 19

year old man in North West Indiana strangles his mother after she serves him a viture notice February 2024 you're from your body.

Right, are you ready? On the afternoon of February the 5th, what's the next day? Yeah. Ooh. Whose birthday is February the 6th? Oh, I'm good. Yeah, just checking.

It was we 104040 it was this significant year uh anyway for me uh on the afternoon of february the 5th 2024 19 year old connor cabald was arrested for attempted murder and aggress a grievous battery for strangling his mother Shelby Burns in her bed after strangling her causing substantial brain damage he went outside and called the police several times telling dispatch to send a car the I'm going to say this wrong but forgive me the val papasone police department responded to the call cabold told police as soon as they arrived to handcuff him and put him in the back of the squad car while he was in the vehicle he told the officer that there was a dead person in the house on the corner further saying i killed somebody in that house upon entering the house the cabal and his mother

lived in police found shel shelby if i hope i'm saying that wrong no she'll actually i'm saying it wrong what's her name I want to make sure I say her name right Chanel Chanel oh my god Chanel I'm so sorry um Chanel in her bed not breathing and with no pulse police noticed signs of the struggle in the room she was rushed to the hospital where doctors determined her injuries put her in grave danger chanel unfortunately died two days later on february the 7th an autopsy revealed that the cause of death was by asphyxiation secondary to strangulation and ruled as a homicide. Chanel had served Cobalt with an eviction notice that day, February 5th. Cobalt's charges were upgraded from murder after the autopsy results.

It is his mugshot you see, the scratches on his face. He has pled guilty and a pre-trial conference scheduled for July the 8th and jury set for August the 6th. ETA. I work within the legal spectrum, not in criminal law, so I might be able to keep up with this case. Just another nutter. It sounds really dramatic.

Yeah. You've got to move out. Okay, you're dead. I suppose he's got... At least he's got somewhere to go now. Just about to say. For the rest of his life. Don't worry, you ain't got to pay rent no more yeah

really he's poor fucking mum really dramatic there's a re i'm assuming he wasn't working or anything and she was like you got you know enough's enough you've got to move out so i want to see if i can open the picture of him I'm not obviously going to go into reading all the other stuff that these are just like I say snapshots so there's scratches all either side of his cheeks and there that was her trying to save herself so that was my story yeah I mean honestly I mean i know my one of my elders like i'm never going to move out i'm like yeah but you will go get a job if you're going to live with me right exactly you can stay until you die i don't care but you will be working but the extra i wonder um i wonder what else he's done because... That's a real dramatic...

Yeah, that is like, you know they say crimes of passion. That's kind of like a crime of passion in the sense that he killed his mum. Because... But then he called the police. Yeah, he called the police because he was like, sweet, you know, he was going to get caught. So he called the police and he was like, sweet, now I don't have to pay rent anywhere. That'll show you, mum. Yeah a day mum and the occasional bumming you deserve it that was that right well may she rest in peace

i know sometimes right okay fine okay so mine is on reddit true crime and it is an innocent teen mysterious bite mark on a dead woman and two alleged serial killers finally finally discovered 40 years later 40 years the robert du bois story i feel like i know that as well we'll sit down i but i am sitting down pictures on this and i will attempt to yeah process them into um into it yeah yeah just the clippings right so uh in tampa's summer of hell the police arrest a teen for murder 40 years later dna clears him the and pointed to possible serial killers a rare of them, who were only 20 years old themselves. Tampa in 1983 was described by one cop as a summer of hell.

A series of vicious slayings, all women, dumped in conspicuous places around town with no immediate suspects stood out. Even among all the other murder and crimes those months brought to the region. So then there's like a picture of a newspaper. It says only link among seven Hillsborough women is death, police say. Can you imagine? The only link is that they're all dead. Do you also know that white, I want it as Caucasian, isn't it? White Caucasian men are still winning in the serial killer category.

It's really sad. It's really sad. Police told newspaper reporters over and over there was absolutely no connection between the crimes in a few cases that proved true as they made arrests by several... But several remained cold cases for decades, such as the freelance photographer Linda Lanson, who disappeared the day after photographing the Bunny of the Year contest at the local Playboy Club. um probably definitely but it says barbara grahams 19 was considering going out with friends the night she was killed her horoscope which she always read said she might have fun oh my god you might have fun like i feel like let's not include that, but okay. It's really random. What a weird thing to put. Also, amongst the eight victims was 19-year-old male worker named Barbara Gramps,

who I just referenced, found behind a dentist's office near a popular teen hangout called Hutto's Corner Grocery with a mysterious so-called bite mark on her cheek. On her cheek? That's on her cheek? Yeah, they're sick. Wow. She's been walking home from the mall carrying her work clothes in a county seat shopping bag, there were no eyewitnesses and as police struggled to find leads, a gas station clerk gave officers the description of a neighbourhood troublemaker named Robert Du Bois.

If you can put these teeth in, do, because they look like vampire teeth. I know, I know. I'm going to try my best. Okay, darling. After a sensational trial, he was sent to death row for Graham's murder. Screaming that he was innocent, he maintained that claim of innocence for decades. So then there's a picture. of innocence for decades. So then there's a picture.

A model of Robert Du Bois' teeth is compared against the image of the bite mark on Barbara's skin. There we are. I shouldn't have said that. They're innocent teeth. They're innocent teeth.

Just because you look like a vampire doesn't mean you are. We are not discriminated against. No. Your teeth are vampire-like. Nearly 40 years later, someone finally agreed to help him. A new conviction review unit at the local state attorney's office. All the evidence had supposedly been destroyed, but a shocking discovery turns up DNA the DNA not only finally freed him but pointed to a pair of alleged serial killers who prospectors now say murdered other victims besides Graham's, besides Graham's, during that dark summer but crimes had never been

connected until now. So that's him now. Yeah, his whole life gone. Gone after 37 years. Oh my god. Despite the DNA, the way the modern science has invalidated other evidence from Du Bois' trial and the recantination of the jailhouse witness who now says flat out, I lied, flat out i lied there are still people in powerful positions who seem to refuse to let go of dubois's guilt even now meanwhile dubois has fought for compensation for the youth he lost behind bars right the state at first told him he was owed nothing, even though it normally pays ex-honorees $50,000 for every year they spend in prison. And so they should. $50,000 for every year. Good.

That's 37 years. Exactly, 37 years. I mean, he went to prison with hair. You know what I'm saying he went to prison with hair. You know what I'm saying? Du Bois was owed... Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. Du Bois has stolen tools and...

What's that say? Sip phones. Gas. Sip phone gas as a team, which means he was uh in what's that word say in in intelligible under the clean hands law so he wasn't clean so they're basically trying to say because he stole something yeah like every child in the whole entire world. Oh, because you...

I stole a chump once as a child. You stole a tool. Yeah. Therefore, those murders that you've just had 37 years ago... You deserved it. Yeah, 100%. And beyond that, the boy is now almost 60, has returned to a hometown that he no longer recognises where he tries to figure

out how to spend the rest of his life and ponders whether his old dreams have to die. The two men now charged with the murder of Barbara Grams have been charged in another cold case murder for that summer of hell. The photographer, Linda Lanson, are persons of interest in other murders from that era. The state attorney said that they were on a sinister spree of serial rape and murder. One confessed to Grahams and has agreed to testify against his old friend

who is awaiting trial. So they found the people. They owe him the money. There's nothing else. There's nothing left to talk about because he did some silly shit as a kid doesn't mean that he doesn't get his money. What is he meant to do?

He's 60 years old. What do they think he's going to do? Yeah, 37 years in prison. Yeah, I'm sorry. On death row. Yeah. It wouldn't have even been just a normal prison. He was on death row.

He would have been isolated. Yeah. Treated like shit for 37 He would have been isolated. Yeah. Treated like shit for 37 years and he didn't do anything. I'm assuming the woman he's cuddling is his mum. Yeah, that picture shows Robert hugs his mother after being released from prison after that. Yeah, it's devastating. The whole thing is so upsetting.

I'm not being funny. The way he looks in this image, they could be married like they could be together that's what i'm saying he looks but you would though in prison it's not a lot of sunlight i don't even where is this does it say no mine doesn't say either tampas i don't know i feel like it's america always that's just a guess though yeah florida florida yeah so america that's it he's like his whole go one day right we ready in 2015 15th in 2015 heather almost did it again heather shot and killed a man who tried to rape her after she managed to grab his gun away from him, when police arrived to investigate the shooting, they found an anonymous kill kit in the diseased man's car.

They would later credit Heather with stopping an active serial killer. I know in 2015 prosecute escort name oh prostitute it's because I didn't see that coming but when I read escort I was like no girl you said that wrong right so prostitute escort I feel like it's not pg's calling prostitute anymore no there's a difference between a prostitute and an escort apparently well she's both here oh so i'm just going to call her an escort yeah just depends on listen she killed a serial killer so i'm i'm all for her in 2000 yeah she does whatever she wants to do women's world mate mate in 2015 a escort i don't care escort named heather met with a man named neil falls they spoke online before but this was the first time that they have met in real life however neil attacked

heather almost immediately after entering her home why would she let him in her home okay it's unclear it was it was I went oh yeah okay um it's unclear uh if he was invited in or if he broke in. Oh, there you go. Either way, Heather ended up in a fight for her life. Neil grabbed her neck and squeezed it hard, telling her that he'd kill her if she didn't do as she was told. With his one hand, he pointed his gun at her. Heather managed to slip away momentarily. And a fight ensued.

Ensued? Yeah, that's right, isn't it? As Heather fought with Neil, she realised that he wasn't going to shoot her. He actually wanted to keep her alive, at least in the short term once heather realized that neil wouldn't shoot her she was able to fight back more effectively she grabbed a small rack from her kitchen she yeah she grabbed a small rake, rake, rake, rack from her kitchen. The kind used to clean up dog poo. It's a rake then. Yeah. Heather swung the rake at Neil.

This turned out to be the best thing she could have done because Neil set down the gun so that he could use both hands to grab the rake away from her as soon as she saw that heather let the rake get pulled away from her and dove for the gun instantly she immediately shot neil in the head and that is the way you do it when i watch a move a horror movie or something like that i'm like bitch go for the head always the head at least they shoot them in the foot at least four in the head just to make sure don't walk away where you think they're knocked out no four let's be clear people have survived gun gunshots to the head four is four is enough four is enough people for anyway a few minutes last thing I'm completely lost where I am yeah that's what I'm looking for

done it she immediately shot him in the head as soon as soon as it was in her hands the whole encounter from the time neil entered the house to the time he was shot lasted less than a few minutes that was real good aiming yeah straight in the head many people in the town would later call her heather the hero or she lost her prozzie name heather the hero from her actions that night. But Heather didn't feel like a hero. She felt sick. She never wanted to kill anybody. I mean, I get that.

No. Yeah. You know, even in those circumstances, taking someone's life is not okay. She never asked for this. When people showed up, she was sobbing hysterically she was also injured she had a broke a broken back and dislocated shoulder oh my god from her fight with neil this way this was by far the most traumatic experience of he's entire life. She cried profusely throughout her interview with the detectives. When a police officer searched Neil's deceased body,

he found four pairs of handcuffs right away that were seen as a red flag. Do you need to be a detective to work out this man's tried to kill her? Yeah. do you need to be a detective to work out this man's tried to kill her yeah yeah like a burgundy or are we talking fire engine red yeah a search of neil's falls car revealed a enormous kill kit um in neil falls, police found an axe, a shovel, a sledgehammer, bowie knives,

bleach, cleaning supplies, handcuffs, duct tape, guns and a bulletproof vest. We forgot that. He worked best in a vacuum. It wouldn't have done any good, would it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he was all in. He was all in.

Yeah, all in. in what are we getting nearer to fire engine red now it was a big red flag oh so it was full fire engine reds oh yeah okay yeah bulletproof yeah it's likely that mr falls is a serial killer likely just a tad this much my psychic powers say Stephen Cooper Cheslin's police department chief of detectives he comes out with all the bright ideas

I believe she saved lives by shooting Mr Falls based on what he did to her what he did to her and based on the items found in the car it would entirely be confirmed that neil falls had kidnapped tortured and killed at least several other women before he met heather you didn't see her coming did he no no and then someone said she had a broken back and dislocated shoulder yet she managed to fight back and kill him tell you what when when that adrenaline is fight or flight yeah you don't you don't feel any pain it's not till after is it yeah yeah even when we used to tough mud and we weren't in fight and flight no we didn't know we had those bruises

no and then the next day even in the bath that day i was like oh help me help me look at this one turn on the hot babe turn on the hot no it's got to be hotter i know my biggest one was like the whole area was completely black I was on the inside of my leg I don't know what I was grappling on and then men so yeah another

toss pot but he's dead now so he's in hell right now and we're going to finish with this one alright okay darling yes we're on true crime still Marcus Wesson a man condemned by California for... Is that my talk or your talk? Cookie, come here, Papa.

Come on, last one. Come on. Go. You guys are reading for so long. Go. Okay. Marcus Wesson, a man condemned by california for or what's the word orchestrating orchestrating orchestrating the murder of nine of his children yeah so special place in hell for this cunt

yeah so there is an image which is him him as a younger man with his daughters. Yeah. Yep. So Wesson founded and controlled a personal pseudo-Christian sect that heavenly... Oh, my God. So the word you're looking for is cult diverged in theology from most of mainstream christianity it's cult it's cult it's a little bit yeah um it's american i'm really sorry guys yeah it's a cult though stereotype yeah it's a cult namely that he believed that jesus christ was a vampire it's a cult bruv um

uh yeah and that he was god himself. Of course he was. The entirety of his congregation composed of his family members, especially his bio-daughters, stepdaughters and nieces. So it's just all women, basically. Yeah, of course, it's easier to control. Of course.

Much of the doctrine, most of the doctrine, Wesson taught in his homemade church revolved around grooming the daughters, stepdaughters and nieces into intercourse with him and he fathered several children with them. Something that also should be noted is that Wesson was captivated by David Korsh and the Wacko incident of 1993. Keep reading, I'll find him.

More specifically, he found common ground with Korsh's polygrammous practices and decided that they both were on a divine duty to spread their seeds. Right. David Kolsch was an American cult leader who played a central role in the Waku saga of 1993 at the head of the Breach Davidals of religion what's he look like a twat so just another he's another cult lead cult leader they all look the same they're all white men

yeah this is not okay this is not this is not yeah first one, so there's a picture of some of Weston's daughters and nieces. After the daughters, he conceived with the nieces, daughters and stepdaughters grew of an age to his liking usually about seven or eight they would be sexually abused and used to birth other children and the pattern rinsed and repeated on a frequent basis for several years as such pedophile as such some of the children in his fold were his daughters, granddaughters and grandnieces all in one. wrapped him with their brothers male cousins and and mothers his male and female children were both treated as servants and were forced to clean his dreadlocks and scratch his armpits and head I literally got that sick feeling in my face. Yeah, it's disgusting. When they become adults, he cannibalised their wages. Stole their wages.

But he let them go to work then? Yeah. Interesting. Some do, that's how they make the money, but they have to give it all to the... Yeah. Interesting. Some do. That's how they make the money. But they have to give it all to the... Yeah. He kept his family in line with physical violence, any acts of insubordination from his children and their mothers was punished with beatings,

with baseball bats and other blunt objects. In one reported incident, Weston choked his primary legal wife, who was previously his stepdaughter from another girlfriend, and he married her when she was 14 years old. Why not? For declaring her intent with leaving him with their children. His surviving family members also described him as being extremely positive. One of his nieces disclosed to a reporter that she was brutalized for expressing interest in a boy her age. Wesson was essentially homeless and lived entirely off of welfare fraud

and leeching on his adult children's salaries. Although he managed to pay for fast food for himself, he was removed entirely off of welfare fraud and leeching on his adult children's salaries. Although he managed to pay for fast food for himself, his children were made to rummage raw from trash cans for their meals. Due to financial instability, he and his family squatted in scattered boats, vacant houses and abandoned buses. So they were squatters i i just can't work out how such a large amount of people

a majority of them children and this has gone on for years how the fuck what it depends where why has no one picked these kids up it depends where you are a lot of it isn't picked up for ages what about that you know that case of the woman that lived in, I think it was Texas, the mum and dad, they had all these kids ranging from 30 to young and they had them chained up and all sorts. The neighbours didn't even know there were kids in the house, babe. The situation simmered past the boiling point in 2004 when a few of his nieces escaped

and several other estranged family members turned to the courts to claim the children away from him. During a standoff with police, Weston caused one of his older daughter wives, 25 year old Sabrina, into shooting eight of the other children and herself. The second eldest victim was another daughter wife, 17 year old Elizabeth, and the youngest were two one year old daughters and daughters and a one-year-old son. Although Wesson tried to proclaim innocence by citing the lack of gunpowder residue on his hands, testimony of forcing suicide packs from surviving family members damned him so that's what he that's him in trial yeah good the year after the massacre western was sentenced to death by california

for each of the nine murders and was also convicted of several courts of sexual murders and was also convicted of several courts of sexual assault. As of 2023, he still theoretically retains a death sentence despite the state's current the word on capital punishment so it doesn't exist anymore but he is still on it and there's a few sources towards him I'm glad I hope he burns in hell

for all that he's done what a sick piece of shit yeah that's nuts isn't it oh he's just a sick piece of shit I mean he's clearly a pedophile and he got away with it by segregating these women and you know what listen i know these women went for a lot and i'm not passing blame on to the victims because obviously the one that tried to leave did get killed so they were scared for their lives but i don't know. Scary, isn't it? Yeah. It's scary that some men hold this power

and, you know, it's really easy to die as a human, so your mortality, but I don't know what's worse, living like that or dying. I mean... But some of them wouldn't have known any different. And he took all the kids' money. He separated the men and the women so he could rape them all,

because that's what it is yeah he's a piece of shit and I hope that they bring it back just for him burn this motherfucker with fire is that some of the comments or yeah someone said his eyes are something not human a lot of people said that you know when you watch about

narcissists and all that it's like there's no i forgot to mention he thought they were vampires oh really did my fave long car ride binge podcast did an episode on this story with an emphasis on some of the vampirism and ritual weirdness so this is a lot deeper than just that yeah yeah and my jaw was in the basement i was stunned some people really need to never breed literally but he bred so he could rape that's why he bred he believed he was god yeah a lot of men think they're god babes not very often a woman goes i I'm God.

But I know. I mean, that's what I'm saying about the look in someone's eyes. There is nothing behind. Like, there's no, like, soul. It's, like, dead inside. Right. So on that horrific note, my darlings. It's very scary.

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