Middle-aged opinion - When plastic surgery goes wrong

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Hello everyone welcome to another episode today. We talk about plastic surgery and when it goes wrong and how that affects the people in your life there’s a lot of laughing in this episode and I do ...apologise but I’ve lost the plot by now as we had recorded four episodes on the trot it is a funny episode of different stories about how plastic surgery has gone really wrong in some cases we hope you enjoy #PlasticSurgery #WhenPlasticSurgeryGoesWrong #Botched #PlasticSurgeryNoNo

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Wow, what do you think of that? What do you think of that? I think that girl has got everything that she deserves. Oh my god, look at the silver one there. Turn it a little bit. This one? Yeah. Oh, it's a fairy! Isn't it beautiful? It's really pretty. Yeah. It looks really spiteful. It's great. It's actually, it holds it really well.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I wouldn't wear that in the car though. In the car? Well, you're not meant to wear claw that in the car though. In the car? Well you're not meant to wear claw clips in the car are you? Because they crack and it can go into your skull. Not seen any of those videos. No please don't send me an N. So now any time if I've got one what I do is I put it right here. So if I do then it won't go into my skull. Well I've not actually worked out how to wear them properly yet. Same way I've just done your bum with two sticks. You literally twist and clip.
Starting point is 00:00:53 You know what, maybe we should start doing tutorials for people because I reckon that we get a lot of fucking followers that way. Because people will be like, sorry, one more time. How? And I'm like, blum. so being that I've always had short hair I've never bothered no that's a lie that's a lie I didn't start growing my own I cut my hair short you 10 I want to show you this I don't at school I had long hair at school I don't think you're 10 I went pixie cut, like mad pixie cut. I don't remember you at school.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Really short and then I grew it, grew it, grew it and then on my 21st I shaved it all off. I was there now I'm sure. And then from then I've kept it short. I think sometimes, for me it's always been like a natural thing, I've always been able to do hair. So I think because of that, I just, I don't know, I just find it easier to do hair so I think because of that I just I don't know I just find it easier easier to do hair so I don't think that's like a brag or anything
Starting point is 00:01:49 some people can some people can't but this woman cannot never oh she lost it never done it I was at work I've worked in school and one of the girls wouldn't help me her mum had done her two French flat, two French flats. Yeah. And then she's like, oh miss, can you, it's come out, could you help me put, and I'm thinking, yeah okay, I can do that little bit. So she went, ehhh, and took the whole thing out and I'm like, babe, I'm saying babe, I didn't call her babe.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah. I don't know how to do that I can't do that. She's like could you try and I'm like okay I went round there and she went it's not how my mum did it and I'm gonna wear it down so I I went round. I'm gonna pull a dress for her mum. I'm so sorry. I went round Terry's and her beautiful daughter has got the thickest most, nothing like Terry's hair, thickest most luxurious long hair. It's absolutely stunning right? And I went babe do you want two French plaits? But I do it the upside down plat so it really gives the full plat. She was like, yeah, and then Telly went, I just really need to learn how to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Do you know, when I was- And then I had two boys, so there was no need for me. When I was in college, because you have to do cane rolls or corn rolls, however it's said said to part a certain a certain bit and I thought no fucking lot I can plant but there's no fucking way because I've always played in like a French plat and then plat in the other way just my brain was like but luckily some of the girls in the class
Starting point is 00:03:37 were like this is how you do it and then my friend Theresa she let me do it all the way around their head and I was like I can't believe it though, I mean they were perfect and then that got signed off but that was a struggle for me because I was like I've not done that before but now I struggle to do a French plait because I'm so used to plaiting the other way which makes them stand out. I can't do them full stop. I can do a plait in the bottom part of my hair. I'm like yay me!
Starting point is 00:04:04 A plait's a plait babe. That's it, that's all I can do a plait in the bottom part of my hair. I'm like, yay me! A plait's a plait, babe. That's it, that's all I can do. I used to make so much more effort as well. Like I kind of, kind of hate that I really, you know, I used to wear fake hair and make more effort than I do with my own long, long hair. It's funny. Even with short hair, I always,
Starting point is 00:04:22 I always had product in my hair, it was always styled, I used to dye my hair, my hair was always kept, but I never had to do much with it. Especially when you use pixie. Oh god, just dye it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got my long bit there and that's that. I did, I had a pixie haircut. I want to say when I was about 13 I looked about 42
Starting point is 00:04:50 Here's a photo of me, when am I going to get it out? I got my big glasses on my pixie haircut and for some reason my mum's blater. I Looked about I never asked for ID in that when I look honestly I look old older then than I feel like I do now Do you know what I mean? Would I still get very upset when I don't get asked for ID in that one. I look, honestly, I look older then than I feel like I do now. Do you know what I mean? Although I still get very upset when I don't get asked for ID. It offends me, yeah? Even when I'm buying paracetamol, you need to check, yeah?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Right, are we ready? No, I forgot what we're doing. We are doing plastic surgery, and then we're moving on to the last I Wonder if you've got the same one as me about the couple because I'm that's my first one. So I've got it Right gun. Okay Hey, I almost went straight into it again. I'm not forgetting the intro. Hello everyone and welcome to middle-aged opinion I am your host Ellie and I am Emily. Oh wait, hang on. You are your host Emily Oh, yeah, don't fucking start that again. I have something to say Sorry, I am
Starting point is 00:05:53 I am the second house of this platform the equal host. I am the other house Yeah, so I'd be half you'd be half equals one We are one it was one we are one I mean I thought for that one so this podcast and hi yeah hi and today on weird things they do we are looking at plastic surgeries gone wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Now I always thought, and when we started, I was like, I'm not going to get much plastic surgery, but there are things I would get done, but it does terrify me if something were to go wrong. Yeah. Yeah. I always thought I would never do anything to my body because I was always happy with who I am and what I look like.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Who I have. I've never been happy with who I am. No, well, it's definitely debatable now. But I'm still growing. Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with plastic surgery. No, there's no judgement thrown on anyone that does. No. And I absolutely want whatever Christine Aguilera is doing, because she looks 20 again.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So hit me up, Christina. Let me know. And if you're willing to pay, I'm going to let you. Good. Happy Christina. Anyone, really, if you're willing to pay. No, she looks absolutely. She looks flawless.
Starting point is 00:07:24 She's incredible. I love her anyway. absolutely love her, I always have but now I'm just like yes girl what you doing? But anyway we are all invested in whatever you are invested in. Right okay so I'm gonna go straight into it. My wife's obsession with plastic surgery has made me lose attraction for her. Damn it! I did see the title and I was like that's mine sorry because I even took one out. I don't know what just happened. Sorry, it's not even my turn. Right, I've been married to my wife for six years now. When we got married she said that she wanted to do minor cosmetic procedures on her face to help her with her insecurities. She had been insecure her whole life, excuse me, so I was very supportive as I could, I was as supportive as I could have been. She got lip fillers and Botox
Starting point is 00:08:26 could have been she got lip fillers and Botox on her face. That's quite a standard procedure for... Yeah again I don't hate it I think you can go over the top but again if you're happy I'm happy for you. Yeah. I will talk about you behind your back but I'm happy for you. After a few months she got more lip filler and her lips looked scary to me. That's exactly what I'm talking about. They look great! Anyway, um, but she was very happy with them so I didn't say anything. Next she wanted to get her boobs done. Again, she was happy with how it turned out but I thought they looked weird. They were so big and stiff and that's probably because they were new and my wife is a petite and skinny woman so it just
Starting point is 00:09:12 didn't look right proportionally to the rest of her body but again it made her happy so I was fine with it. Last year she said that she was going to get a BBL, Brazilian Butt Fist. This time I actually told her I wasn't going to support her on this one because it's dangerous. I just spat everywhere, you're welcome. It was a dangerous procedure. There was a story on the internet that went viral months ago and prior about a woman who died during her BBL procedure. I was scared. I asked her if she could see a therapist or psychotherapist about her body dysmorphia because doing this. But she refused and said that it hadn't helped her when she tried it before. She said that she was doing it with her own money anyway,
Starting point is 00:10:08 so I didn't have a say in it. I shut up and took care of her after her procedure. I was glad she was safe and the procedure went well, but in all honesty, it was horribly done. The doctor made her hips so wide, her thighs and waist were really small so again it just didn't look proportional. Now the problem is I generally don't find her physically attractive anymore and I don't know what to do about it. I
Starting point is 00:10:37 want nothing more than to be madly attracted to her as I was years ago but anything she has done to her body makes her look slightly terrifying to me. I love her and don't think that will change but I hate having sex with her now. I don't enjoy it but her sex drive has increased since her BBL probably because she's more confident now. Meanwhile mine has basically tanked. I've thought of talking to her but I'm not sure what good that will do besides make her feel bad. There's nothing that can be done now anyway. She's confident and happy in her body for the first time in her life, and I don't want to ruin it So I obviously won't say anything about it to her
Starting point is 00:11:32 I love every other part of our relationship, so that's just going to have to be enough I obviously can't say this to anyone in real life, so here I am and I just wanted to get it out say this to anyone in real life so here I am and I just wanted to get it out. Do you know it is a rock and a hard place, it is a lose lose situation for this man. At the end of the day he met someone who he absolutely adored and loved and found sexually attractive the way she was and she wasn't happy and except everything he said is right he said all the right things yeah I love her and she's now body confident yeah it's not what I found attractive yeah so he shut up just shuts up and puts her up. Or he.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Or them. I mean, what can happen, babe? Because I don't know. Worst case scenario, worst case scenario, which is the clearest one, is he goes, I don't like how you look. She's like, says, fuck you. And they're done because she's happy and he's not. Or he says, I don't like it and now she's got no confidence again
Starting point is 00:12:46 and now hates all the work she's had done and he still doesn't like what she looks like because it's not a big fit. I think the reverse of the BBL is just as dangerous as a BBL so I agree with everything that you just said I don't think there is he even like you said shuts up puts up or Separates I don't think any good will come in saying It's gonna knock her confidence as well Um, it's not solely about her confidence because obviously there is she didn't take his considerations I don't think any good into consideration
Starting point is 00:13:26 but it's not about him how she feels about her body no but I don't think any good will ever come of telling her that she looks shit no no no no even if you decided and I don't think it is she looks shit it's just not what he finds attractive because people go oh my god
Starting point is 00:13:42 it's what's on the inside that counts but obviously, ultimately, but ultimately, when you're first attracted to someone, it's a physical attraction. That's just the way that humans are wired. Yeah, your face, your body, your structure. So I think that she is different. It's one thing to change after pregnancy, and you know, every woman does. And that, that generally is the man is more in love
Starting point is 00:14:05 with the woman if you're lucky enough to have that sort of man because you have been you have carried their child blah blah blah but I agree with what you said there is no there's no outcome here that's gonna be no so top comment people don't talk about it enough but a lot of plastic surgeries end up making the person look terrifying. It can when it's extreme. When it's extreme like you've completely changed your body shape. Yeah. And it looks incredibly unnatural against even another woman.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah. You know, like, this whole hourglass, an hourglass is a natural shape. Yeah. But the extreme, large hips, large bum, tiny, tiny waist, and then a larger bust, it's not real life. It's not.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Not in a lot of women. No. There's a small percentage that that is natural, but it's not. No. It's not. And as much as a lot of women want this, do a lot of men. I mean, initially they're like, yeah, she's hot,
Starting point is 00:15:24 but I Don't know. I don't know. I think in this particular case this guy he's either got a swallow The his problem with what she looks like and actually realize I do love my wife and I will take her as she comes Because at the end of day she's changed her body what if what if she had had an accident and then had become yeah yeah just figured that will he then feel the same way because she's now disfigured in different I don't think so because mentally it's a different process you know that they didn't do that to themselves. No but this is this has made her happier. Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:07 listen I am all for do what makes you feel happy I am but in the sense that he said please see a therapist before any more procedures I think had she had done that and still went ahead with it I feel like he might feel slightly better then as well do you see what I mean? I think the fact that she's like no no this is what I want yeah and of course she wants to have sex all the time and he's like do you know as well I keep seeing this thing about the smell from a BBL there's like a smell associated with a BBL let me do a quick Google and read that because it's quite important.
Starting point is 00:16:47 People, I've seen a whole thread of it recently about people starting to talk about this smell that comes with a BBL. On the skin? Kind of. Right. I don't know, I've got small. Smell, M, smell, smell.
Starting point is 00:17:09 S-M-E-L-L. There you go, that's where I went wrong. Right, right. BBL smell is often described as a musty or slightly sour, but it should not be overpowering. You may notice the odor more pungently when sweating or sitting for extended periods because there are men coming and being like nobody's talking about the smell yeah I was like so hang on what right BBL is the Brazilian butt lift yes so that is
Starting point is 00:17:49 taking fats from different parts of the body and then putting it into the bum yeah and thighs yeah yeah okay so that we know what that is where is that fat coming from everywhere everywhere. I'm not sure if it's the incisions. Everybody's talking about it. I mean no one wants to smell muskets. Right, during the surgery tiny incisions are made. After the procedure these incisions heal which can sometimes lead to discharge. Now this discharge itself shouldn't have a strong odor but if it's not cleaned properly bacteria grows rah rah rah rah. Let's discuss the BBL smell situation is everywhere babe. Buckle up because you're, because we're
Starting point is 00:18:46 about to get a little sciency but promise we'll keep it interesting. Right. The laparoscopery of fat gathering. Remember how to, I'm just trying to get to the point. During tiny incisions are made we we know all this, the cells are broken down. These little buggers hold onto fluid and during the surgery sometimes these fluids can get released. I'm assuming it's something to do with the fat being injected back into you that releases the smell and because the area is the area it sweats and all that I mean everybody's talking about it babe when you
Starting point is 00:19:31 leave doing TikTok search I haven't heard I don't listen one came up and then that was it it was a whole fucking rabbit hole oh yeah but these men are like why is nobody talking about the BBL smell? Because it was probably popular. So if I had it and I stood up and you'd be like, the fuck is that? I'd be like, it's my BBL girl. Yeah. Seriously. It's like a whole thing. So basically your ass is smelling musky. Yes, but not like shit. It's not shit. No, it's musky. Yeah, it's like a damp
Starting point is 00:20:05 mold smell wouldn't it be? Like a bit of a moldy. I hope not. But apparently. Do a little deep dive when you leave and you'll be like anyone that wants to do a deep dive just fucking put it in and I'm telling you these people are like damn girl. Yeah serious. Yeah it's a whole nother thing to consider but they that should be out there more so people consider it be like do I want a musty ass no no what when they describe it you know what it makes me think of you know clothes that haven't dried quick enough yeah that's what makes me think yeah yeah it's like a bit of a dirty smell.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And you put it on and you're like I can't wear that. Yes, a bit of a dirty smell. Yeah. Even though generally it's clean but it is a dirty smell. Yes. It's like a musty odour. Wow. Yeah. Something to think about, innit? Well, I'm not planning on getting it, but... Me neither. Not anytime soon anyway. Even more so now than ever. Yeah. But... Oh. Yeah. No, I didn't know about it. Yeah, well, there you go. But, um... Now, is there something else for this guy to consider?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah. Do you want to part with that muskies? No. Musky wives. But now it's something else for this guy to consider. Do you want to part with it, Musky? No. Musky, wife's. No. Oh, I feel for him. So do I. Because you love someone unconditionally.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And you want them to be happy. And now, through their happiness, you're like, I don't know who you are Like I don't know I mean if I wanted something done and no matter how poor happy was if I Decided that I was really unhappy with it. There's nothing he could say or do that would stop me So but would you ever would you have taken his feelings into consideration in the first place? Would you have taken his feelings into consideration in the first place? Because it doesn't sound like this has been a problem. I don't know if I would.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Because if I had the money I'd get a tummy tuck, he's like, you're fine. Because obviously there's risks involved. And I think if I had the money I probably would get my tummy tuck without taking his feelings into consideration. Because in my head it's not about how he feels feels it's about how I feel. Yeah. Yeah. So I can put myself in her position and be like I mean I don't know the other thing to think about here as well is what can I achieve myself so obviously you know as I've got older I've put on weight or whatever but through exercising that I do have a bigger bum,
Starting point is 00:22:46 which is the shape is good because of the exercise I do. When I lose weight, I probably will lose some of my ass, but obviously I'll still be exercising. But my ass has never been a problem for me. So it's not like I'm like, I can't even relate to that, babe. But I can understand if she wants something and she's done something to make herself a better and now she does I mean, I don't know if this is a really difficult one. You have a good point. I mean How much did she try to do herself?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Initially, that's what I'm that's really because if she's really skinny and little and she had gone on high protein and done all the workouts and all that she would have sit through it wouldn't have been massive because she's obviously naturally very petite and all that not to mention after she has kids and that your body changed again so your hips wider naturally because all your bones like move apart something to think about you know people to have children and then, yay good times! And you naturally start then storing fat differently than you did before. So, you know, listen, I don't know. It's a difficult one because she's done something to please herself and at the same time her husband now finds her
Starting point is 00:24:01 gross. So... Oh, gross is a really harsh word. He doesn't he doesn't find her figure attractive so... We'll go with that. Okay. I'm sure she looks beautiful babe. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying for him it's not his type and that is where the problem lies. She definitely needs psychological help because what's going on is wanting to get something done to repair, like for me for example wanting a tummy tuck would be to repair after the birth of my children and that's really what it is and to give me a little bit more confidence on my stomach because my muscles are completely separate. But another thing to completely change yourself there's
Starting point is 00:24:46 definitely something something's happened in her life where she's got I'm so disgusting and I need to do this and I need to do that when I'm sure she's absolutely stunning so but anyway Jesus shall I close the door? No, it'll be alright. Okay, go on. Okay. I don't know what I'm doing with this bit. I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing with it. It can hear you. I can see it. Yeah. Anyways. I'm not sure. Botched or not, so disappointed right now. So it says 12 days ago, but this was actually a year ago. I got my corset, trunk plasty and male chest reduction surgery.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And this is the result. There is an image and I will put it in. I've just taken images for my next one for you. I am devastated. As I can't imagine, this would be the end result anyone would imagine. Healing is good. Drains were all out at one week. PO is post-op. The first thing the surgeon says at my one week was I did not take enough off. You think? I had no idea what this surgery is so far.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So what do I do? I don't think there's any legal recourse. Is this something surgeons would correct for free? It cost me almost 40k to look like someone's before picture in my mind. I had three other surgeries planned with this surgeon, thighs, legs and posterior. Oh skin reduction! But I don't know what to do even. Am I just SOL? What's SOL again? I can't remember. Is this a botch or just what I should expect from having this much extra skin? Attached our pictures from today, which is 12 days post-op and a solar day on Mars Am I just a solar day on Mars no sol that's what I put in meaning
Starting point is 00:27:24 Slang. Sticky out of luck, strictly out of luck. Strictly out of luck. Sticky. I don't know what I said sticky. Am I just strictly out of luck? Is this a botched job or should I accept the mop? I actually looked at this story.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And before, and a before for reference on the skin so I could open one so he's lost over 320 pounds yes the surgery is absolutely fucking shit I was absolutely I saw it I've seen it yeah I was absolutely gutted for him because that is that's a word that is like that is it's terrible it's so bad and I do generally feel really sorry for him I really do all that work babe all of that work yeah that he when you put it on just try and get rid of a little bit more there I'm just letting it live so I can get along to the um yeah pretty believe it or. There is a pre picture of it. So he has obviously had, so this is basically a 360 degree tummy tuck with a pulling here yeah and you'll see with a
Starting point is 00:28:38 pulling from either side of his stomach together and it literally looks like a pre tummy tuck photo. It's honestly absolutely, his boobs done he's had down center done and said across the well and he had booked him to have his arms and his thighs done as well. Does he mention where he got this done? No. I feel like there's legal recourse here. Possibly. Yeah I mean you can tell me what the comments say. Obviously add this picture but give him a bit more modesty. Yeah so the first comment was just wanted to drop a note to say congratulations on losing so much weight. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's a huge accomplishment that takes a wild amount of commitment and grit. Self-discipline, yeah. OP says thank you. And then someone else goes and says OP I would post this on some weight loss subs too. You're probably more likely to find folks who have been on the same journey Over there and here. Okay, so no, there's no real advice so far I personally think he looks like a before. Yeah, he thinks he looks like a before. In my opinion I although he is about extremely thin I think as well babe. Oh
Starting point is 00:30:05 I don't know. Look at his legs. You can't see his legs. You can see his legs. Either side. Oh, okay, we don't know whether it's touching. It's because that middle part is blurred out. He looks so thin to me.
Starting point is 00:30:19 The thing is, because he's lost so much weight, it's quite hard to see actually how much muscle tissue is there. It's absolutely shocking. The surgery in my opinion is I feel like I could have done a better job. Like it's one of those, do you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. You have a long way to go so don't get too upset yet, it took a full year for my tummy tuck to be normal. My tummy tuck only removed 350cc but I still needed another surgery to get things right. Did they discuss with you that when you essentially are dealing with the reconstruction like this, that multiple surgeries might be needed. I'm a reconstruction patient and I have three surgeries in one year only with one more to go to get it right. Okay, bit of hope then. You
Starting point is 00:31:27 might need to do the same and someone else says oh and at my first appointment my doctor goes I need to fix your scar so maybe your surgeon's making that comment was just them acknowledging that one surgery didn't do it. He would have done my scar revision for free at the surgery center too, but they just referred the hospital, so I paid a bit. But you might get some touch-ups free. OP then says, I certainly hope so,
Starting point is 00:32:02 but I think my revision is pretty extensive and the look of no in his eyes when I said that's not the kind of missed opportunity I should be paying for, but didn't answer either way says a lot. I'm thinking she's thinking if it would be on her or not. I think the best thing to do is get everything in writing because 40, first of all 40k is a lot of fucking money right. Second of all everything should have been explained to him. Yeah he goes on to say that he wishes that even the surgeons he didn't go with would have mentioned that there would be multiple
Starting point is 00:32:46 revisions potentially. I feel like it's a bit naughty right? Assuming your revisions were out of pocket as well. Thankfully the pain isn't bad and honestly if this was what I was promised and explained I would have been fine with it, not that you need to look so you're going to look so incredible like every doctor claimed. Oh, I mean. It's quite sad that one really. Yeah. How long ago was this?
Starting point is 00:33:17 So a year. Right. What about going on his profile and seeing if there's any... I mean I'm hoping so. I feel really bad for him. Um... So five days ago, what's he saying? I had a mini one, four weeks, probably up from my last surgery. Surprise toddler attack, kept it clean, used some antibacterial ointment.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Okay so... It looks like he's still got on-line surgeries. Yeah. I had a corset, along with a whole lot of other stuff and I still, more to come if you want it. There you go, this is... Do it, the scar fades, extra skin doesn't. Okay, so whatever he's doing.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He's still in the process. He's in process, he's ultimately saying. It's a process. Do it if this is what you wanna do, like. Yeah. Scar's fades, skin doesn't. He then goes on and says about drains, I don't want them removed. Two weeks is usually the max. There's a lot, he's talking a lot about the process.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah, he is in a journey. Yeah, these are all, like the newest one was five days ago. So fingers crossed, he's on the journey. Yeah, I'm just seeing if he's posted any more images. You're recovering, your body is probably burning as much calories. Yeah, he's on a journey. Yeah, good luck to him. And I would say initially that year ago he was like, oh my god shitting himself and let's face it when you see the pictures you'll understand
Starting point is 00:35:11 yeah cuz it literally looks pre-op not post-op but you know I mean he lost a fucking significant amount of weight so. Oh here we are. You can pose that as well. Does anybody have any pictures before and after surgery? Obviously he's got clothes on so you can't actually see. If you wanna pose then just take off his head. But, I mean. It's incredible. That's significant, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:35:39 He's done amazing. He's absolutely amazing. He's done amazing. Yeah, he's done incredible. Right. Are you ready? Sure. Right. OK. These are photos and I will send them to you to add, yeah?
Starting point is 00:36:00 OK. Need advice. Help with plastic surgery gone wrong. yeah? Okay. Need advice, help with plastic surgery gone wrong. Last year I had two moles removed by a plastic surgeon. The doctor had a good reputation. Two moles were both in the middle of my the skin along with the marks from the stitches. Like my body had rejected them. He tried again in November. He used dissolvable stitches again. This time he added a non-dissolvable stitch and that stayed in for a week. The nose closed, scarred a little, but the one between my eyes, the stitches came out and became a bigger gaping hole. I went on Thursday and he said he didn't know what else he could
Starting point is 00:37:05 do for me. He might try again but he doesn't know what else he can do. I can't stop crying. I've been crying for a year now. He ruined my face. Sometimes he said something that he said would be no problem, he made into a huge problem. I've been reading about laser scar resurfery. I feel like I'm saying that wrong. But don't know what to do, let alone who to ask. My skin is pigmented on the darker side, Middle Eastern. I don't even have the money. I need suggestions to help on my treatment and a Pacific doctor
Starting point is 00:37:51 or clinics to go to. I'm in, on Toronto, I feel like I'm saying that wrong as well. I will travel to Toronto if it means that I get my face back, thank you. Now I'll show you before you post them, I don't see anything wrong with the moles that were there. Just her face now. Why is that scar so big? I don't, she doesn't say that it was fair cancer or anything like that because obviously cancer, depending on what's happening, you have to go deeper and deeper
Starting point is 00:38:31 but it wasn't that big the first time but he reopened it and that is the second time so that is the first surgery, oh, second surgery Emily, we'll put them on for you. I mean I think her moles are beautiful but again if she wanted them removed she wanted them removed but um yeah Manny proper fucked up. I mean it's awful. I thought they literally just, you know, like, yeah, and then like sew you together. I mean, these are significant, we are talking tiny little pinhead, they'll be a bit bigger.
Starting point is 00:39:14 They're bigger than pinhead. When I say pinhead, I mean, you know, the sewing pin, not the sewing pinheads, the one you hold dresses together. It's the flat pin, flathead. No, the round head pins that you put dresses together, the hems together, they're about that big. They're like, they're smaller than this mole. They're smaller than this, they're smaller than yours.
Starting point is 00:39:36 They are. They are. But the scarring is significant. It's bad, man. significant is is bad man that one as well I know oh my gosh I'm sure she's still stunning but yeah man in my opinion he fucked up right yeah yeah I would not that I know much about surgeries and maybe the hands and I'm pretty sure there are better stitching ways You know when Chloe Kardashian the blonde one, yeah. Yeah, she she said I think she's had two or three men melanoma Fucking cancer skin cancer. The last one was here, barely a mark but she had it checked and it was and they had to go quite deep. You can't even see nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Maybe if she hadn't got makeup, maybe a very, very, I mean it's beautifully done. Like a line, like a face line. But this is like fucking butchery don't they check how you heal and shit cuz surely that weighs apart some people heal differently don't they? yeah massively like massively yeah you can tell like when I've got cuts and stuff look so but I wouldn't say that that is significantly bad but... Yeah man. People are saying, see a cosmetic dermatologist, laser resurf- resurfaring might be an option.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So... Haven't you got to leave it a certain amount of time before you can do something like that though? I'm not sure, listen, I don't know. I mean, they do it on stretch marks and stuff, don't they, which is essentially scarring. Yeah. Someone said the only acceptable treatment that would have removed the mole safely
Starting point is 00:41:41 would have been a laser. Something a dermatologist could have done. Fucking hell. Someone said, may I, oh she said, may I ask what kind of laser? I should not be doing my skin. She said she's scared because she hears horror stories. Bitch.
Starting point is 00:42:03 You're literally living the horror story. You are the horror story. Yeah. Like nothing can get worse than that. I am sure you are absolutely stunning still, do you know what I mean? But what a fucking knob. I mean, he has made something that is very... I mean, I think moles are pretty anyway, but that is didn't wasn't a big deal right into like massive deep scars on their face two deep scars it's
Starting point is 00:42:33 quite shocking really it is it's like she's rejected I can't believe yeah leaves yeah that second one yeah okay rhinoplasty or rinoplasty how would you say it? rhinoplasty, plasty, rhinoplasty the worst decision I've ever made hello all I think I simply need to share my story, not to be judged and not for others to tell me what I already know but instead just to be heard and to talk with others who relate. Don't I her, you brought her in? I distinctly remember wanting a different nose as early as fourth grade. As the years passed on I would get into serious slumps and dream of the day I could afford a rhinoplasty. There was nothing technically wrong with my nose, it was simply big. It was too wide and bulbous. In my opinion, I struggled with self-confidence for that very reason. After years and years of saving, I was thrilled when I finally had saved enough
Starting point is 00:43:56 for my procedure. I thought I did everything right. I went to numerous consultations, did my own personal research, and descriptively described what I was looking for in the rhinoplasty. I asked each surgeon to please be open and transparent with me, as I only had enough money for one procedure. While I fully understood that things can happen, I never in a million years thought it could
Starting point is 00:44:27 go this wrong. I am now six months post-op and I have never been more depressed with my appearance. I don't enjoy going out in public. I'm even embarrassed for my own family to look at me. My nostrils is now asymmetric, they were not before. One nostril rim has retracted, the base of the other nostril is butchered, the bridge of my nose is notably wider than before and there is no curvature to my nose anymore. It is the same width all the way down and looks like a log on my face.
Starting point is 00:45:16 You're not helping. She is sad, stop it. I'm sorry, it's because she said log. You're not visualising as a nose. I'm very visual people, yeah? Not only, she hasn't, I mean, I wish she'd put a picture. With a log.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Not only is it displeasing to look at but now my breathing is also, uh, hindered. Like a wind tunnel. This, she's sad. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. She said look. And you said wind tunnel. Yeah but one has like... botched. Gone under like has... oh anyway. While I brought up my concerns to each post-op appointment, I was never taken seriously.
Starting point is 00:46:10 The surgeon wouldn't see me and instead had nurse deal with all my post-op appointments. At the two month mark, I finally requested to see the surgeon and only the surgeon. That appointment was awful. Each concern of mine was discounted and a random woman was brought into the room to tell me I look great. Upon getting emotional the surgeon finally took a closer look and agreed with my concerns. However, accountability was not taken and instead it was all my fault and how I was healing. It's a porcelain. Do not get me wrong, I know everybody heals differently. However, some degree of accountability should have been taken. To end the appointment, I was told that I will need a second procedure two months into a very
Starting point is 00:47:14 long recovery. I'm told that I already need another rhinoplasty. Wow! I politely asked for Wow. I politely asked for a potential refund to help cover the cost of my second surgery. I know refunds are rare and I was not hopeful but I thought I would at least try. The surgeon sent a letter to my house stating that all of my concerns have been handled respectfully and no refund will be issued. Also because I continue to bring up my concerns, my account has been terminated and the surgeon refuses to see me from this moment forward. Lastly I was strongly advised to not take any further action. This was, the way it was worded, it almost sounded like a threat. I know this was long. Thank you all for who spent the time to read it.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I feel hopeless, defeated and sad. I'm sad and I don't know how to cope with this. We are in the day and age of social media man, name and shame. You end up getting yourself a free nose job. I believe that her concerns are because he fucked up. And instead of going, I fucked up, let me put this right. I hope she did her research. If she did her research, she was just unlucky.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I mean, she said she did. She went to multiple different surgeons, she had... No photos? No, you would have been a lot more... I very much doubt it. I do feel for her. I mean she does answer people. I have heard that, you see that where they're like no more contact, I've heard that from
Starting point is 00:49:00 someone on TikTok where they had something done in Turkey and then they had no longer... they weren't contacted, they cut them out and there's not really a lot you can do when you go... Yes, yes. I've seen and heard lots of stuff about when you go to Turkey, like when you come back to your own sort of home. Yeah. They're like, good luck with that. They're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if they have a problem, yeah. Yeah. What's even more shocking is that a week
Starting point is 00:49:36 after my surgery when spot bleeding should already be subsided, I had a horrific nosebleed. It was gushing out of my nose and I could not get it to stop. I would lean my hand back and it felt like my throat was filled with blood. Probably was. It was scary. The surgeon would not see me even in that moment. They just didn't care. They're saying like, was it in your state or Turkey? And she said it was in the US, I'm in North Carolina, but I traveled to South Carolina for the procedure. Surely, surely America's laws are very different
Starting point is 00:50:18 with suing and stuff. It's time to sue, man. Yeah, I feel like she has a case here. A hundred percent. And they've threatened her in the most nicest way to say fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like don't come back and do not go any further with it. Because they know.
Starting point is 00:50:41 What I think a lot of doctors fail to realize in the UK and somewhere first of all sorry is Sometimes a complete sentence and answer and is good enough, right? Second of all if you correct what you fucked up a lot of people a lot. Okay, sweet. Yeah, and they go away Yeah, it goes away and it's done and it may cost you a little bit because you fucked up in the first place But that's on you bruv and if you correct that it's done. And it may cost you a little bit because you fucked up in the first place, but that's on you, bruv. And if you correct that, it's going to cost you way less to correct it than it fucking is in the future because a bitch like me would all the way.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Listen, like, bad publicity travels a hell of a lot further. In 2025, man, you're done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if there is bad news, that spreads amongst 10 people, whereas good will only be passed on to maybe one or two. I can't remember how that little thing goes. I'm sorry, girly, I'm really sorry. Well, I'm sorry, babe.
Starting point is 00:51:39 This is nine months ago, so this is very raw still. Like, she'd still be healing from this but um yeah right are we ready for the last of the day? Yay? Yay! Yay! Am I the arsehole? Yep. I'm not talking about me. Am I the arsehole for being truthful and admitting that I find my wife unattractive after surgery? My wife had plastic surgery recently, we had discussed it and I was against it. It was not my decision and ultimately I had no say. She looks weird now. She had the fat sucked out of her lips. No out of her face, lip fillers, necklifts. It's just visualizing it like fucking necklifts I don't really get she gives an uncanny
Starting point is 00:52:57 You're not very helpful I've lost it now entire people when you realize when the fucking first book comes out She gives an uncanny Valley vibes now It I don't know what it means, it makes me laugh. It freaks me out. She is fully healed now and she wants us to go back to normal like me insinuating sex. I have done so but not as much as I used to. And when I do I try and make sure there is very little light I'm sorry I don't mean to laugh I'm really I'm tired I'm so sorry our I'm so sorry listeners. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Where to in case the first one comes up? Right. It's been a few months now, and I kind of dread having to look. This person is not helping. I kind of dread having to look at her. Obviously I'm mentioning about work. I could go into the beast. Damn. I could go into the beast. Obviously she has noticed, she has been bugging me to tell her what's up. I've tried telling her I'm just tired from work. Me too. Or that I'm run down, really anything except for the truth. Oh dear. She broke down and asked me if I was having an affair.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I said that I wasn't. She asked to look at my phone. I unlocked it and handed it over. I wasn't worried about her finding anything. She starts reading her work messages. Damn! Anything because there is nothing to find. You need to not talk because you're sending my head. All the memes he sent to his mate and what his wife looks like now.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And we don't know what he's saying but his face! Anyway with memes to go along with it yeah turkeys she spent like a ball sack I missed that bit he used to hold it right she spent an hour looking for it and found nothing. An hour?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Wow, she went deep. Oh, she went deep. She asked me... She transferred a bit of money over to her own account as well while she was in it, I reckon. For something else. She asked me to explain why I changed. I tried to explain that I just wasn't interested right now.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Nothing I said was good enough for her. She kept digging. Because she knows you best, like she knows you. Yeah, of course. I finally told her the truth. Oh, so nice. I wasn't harsh or brutally honest. I just told her that her new face wasn't something.
Starting point is 00:56:23 It's not what I'm used to but I found attractive and that I was turned off oh wow that's not brutal no Wow. My Jesus fucking, mate. You're so horrible. Right, anyway. That's not okay. No, she aren't. Well, listen, the thing is, he was honest. No, no, no. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Okay, we're getting into it in a minute. Telling your wife that you were turned off by her face. She is well out all the time. I don't want to talk about it. It's that. That ain't doing it to me anymore. That ain't doing it to me. You have to stop talking.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I'm actually crying. Turn the lights off. Oh my god. Turn the lights off. That's a song, isn't it? Turn the lights off. That's a song. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Right, anyway. and it right anyway she asked if that's why I turn up you measure waking up I wasn't laughing like this when I read it yesterday you know're gonna turn over in the morning like, RAAAHHHHH! Damn! Damn! What? You're out of your mind, shut up. Right, so she asked if that's why I turn off all the lights. I said yes! She started crying and said that she needed time alone.
Starting point is 00:58:00 She went to stay with her sister. I've been calling... I've been called every name in the book since this happened My sister said I'm a piece of shit for insulting my wife's looks Her friends will think I'm an asshole I Tried not to say anything. I can't force myself to find her attractive, I still love her. Her face is just weird! She looks like a blue alien from the fifth heaven! Oh, we all know what that looks like. Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:58:46 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh my
Starting point is 00:59:02 God that's fucking hilarious. You know the one that sings? Yeah the one that sings. Awwww. I'm assuming it's just really really tight right now. I'm going to have to clean my face up before the next one. Look at the fucking state of me. The fuck.
Starting point is 00:59:21 That's actual. Oh. It's not funny. I'm really sorry right are you finished is it finished sorry yes that's finished that's how he finished it babe she just looks like the blue alien from fifth element is how he finished that's how he finished I mean he is a bit of an asshole I don't know I don't think it's fair. He is because he's actually given, he's definitely said that to his mates at work, that makes him a bit of an arsehole because he's...
Starting point is 00:59:52 But, but that might be his personality, that is something I would say, does that make me an arsehole? Who looks like it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, fair play, I'm an arsehole. Yeah, but... like I'm an asshole yeah but but you can't help when you've fallen in love with somebody yeah and everyone's like it shouldn't be but it's about who they are and he's like I know yes yes I know but you still need to be attracted to
Starting point is 01:00:16 your partner to be able to not turn the lights off to have sex with him I mean he must and obviously he's tried because he's turning the lights off. He still wants to be intimate with her. I don't know if her surgery has gone wrong and she doesn't realise it. Maybe she's too tight, maybe it's too early after surgery. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes. It sounds like she's had like a full face done and now she looks like, you know some of the celebrities that are overdone. In my head I'm just thinking Katie Price and I'm really sorry if people find what she looks
Starting point is 01:00:52 like now attractive. Right but I do not, I think she's gone too far. Yes and that's what I'm saying and it's not fair for him to not, she pushed and pushed and pushed and he snapped babe and he's saying to us she looks like the alien from the fifth element but she pushed him, he reached the point he tried to make excuses and said because he's thinking over time and it's not fair that we're all judging him. He tried to make excuses to not hurt her feelings he didn't want to hurt her feelings
Starting point is 01:01:26 right it's not like she walked out out of surgery and he went damn who the fuck is it he is tried don't be fucking do it i can't take it but but and that's why it's really harsh i mean it is he could have been like i'm i'm struggling to get used to how you currently look. A mutual friend of mine and Terry's, she had her lips injected, come round and I was like what the fuck have you done to your lips? You look like a fish. So The two go... Terry, three days before her wedding, decided to get fucking Botox. I opened the door, her fucking eyebrows had like, done the reverse back to normal.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Where the fuck have you done to your face? And she was like, I know her! And had to have it dissolved. I am very... And I don't even mean to be mean. I'm just like. Do you remember when Sarah shaved off, waxed off somebody's eyebrow before her wedding?
Starting point is 01:02:30 No. You know I heard that story. It's one of my favorite stories that she tells. About her beauty stuff. No. She took it well, she took it well. Yeah. I think, I think the thing is,
Starting point is 01:02:43 some people don't have filters and he's desperately tried to be as filtered as possible but he got to the point where he was actually at your face. I feel bad for him that he's now been attacked by her family and friends. Yeah and they're not being honest with her babe. They're not being honest with her. No, because if he's saying you look completely different, that actually I'm struggling with how you look, like, someone else must also think that. Someone else must also think that. Everybody probably thinks that.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And it's not fair that he's been told that he is some sort of asshole for saying it after, like you said, her pushing him into a corner of why and he... okay, I do feel he could have been just that little bit more softer with it. But you are a softer person with it. Me, it would have been straight out. I still feel like if someone backs me into a corner I don't know whether my reaction would be like you look like a freak. Yeah. I feel like I would be like
Starting point is 01:03:51 I'm just struggling with how you look. Yeah. I'm not used to it. Yeah, I'm struggling with it. It's not the person that I've grown with. I envisioned to wake up with every day for the rest of my life. I didn't envision the blue aliens for a second. Yeah mate, please don't say that to her. Please don't tell her that. I don't think he has said that. I think he's telling everyone what she looks like. But someone's going to repeat that to him. To her. Like, I found your story on there and he has. Not the asshole. I think you had in the situation as well as you could.
Starting point is 01:04:31 But there's a difficult conversation you need to have soon. And then someone else said, I recommend seeing a marriage counselor. Now, I have the update. I don't know. I don't know if I can get through it. Let's try and get through it. No. Okay. Okay. Okay. No comment. I am crying enough today. Okay. It's fucking hilarious. Okay. Update on finding my wife unattractive. It's the way he writes.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Update on my wife being a munter. Okay, update on finding my wife unattractive after her plastic surgery. Fuck's sake, stupid man. My wife came home yesterday and we finally had a long talk. She told me the reason that she had surgery was because her mum and her sister talked her into it. They convinced her that she was starting to look old and that I would find someone else to be with if she didn't do something about it. That was why her mum gave her the money for the operation. Her mum and sister look like bruce
Starting point is 01:06:09 i'm i'm horrified and absolutely i feel a bit angry go on look like bruce cambell in escape from la i don't know who that looks like now i've got to look this bloke is fucking top quality mate meeting him is like i, he's like my spirit animal. I mean he's trying to create visuals for people but I don't know who that person is so hang on. Okay, Bruce. From what? From what? From Escape from LA. Oh this bloke. Oh my god. This is unbelievable. I watched this one on YouTube. Hang on, he said that's who looks like this? Her mum and sister. Amazing! This bloke is fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:13 They are the very last people on the planet that should be dealing with anyone to get plastic surgery. I used some of the comments I read on my post as talking points. I told her that I love her Sorry, I told her that I love her and That she was the person that I wanted to spend my life with I told her that the surgery would take a while longer to settle down And that as I got more used to her new face, her new face I would learn to accept it. Because he wants to be with her? Of course. That's lovely. She asked me if I wanted her to see if she could have it reversed. I almost screamed at her. The last thing in the world I won is for her to fuck up her face more than it already is.
Starting point is 01:08:12 He didn't say that did he? He fucking said that. He did not say that. Where is it? I asked him. I screamed at her. I want her to fuck up her face any more than it already is. This bloke mate is quality. I asked her if she could please just leave it and let me get used to it. We talked for about three hours and we decided that her mum and her sister would not take part in any decisions
Starting point is 01:08:41 in our lives going forward. In it. She's doing- Oh my god. She is going to leave her face alone and give me a chance to get used to it. We are going to look for a marriage counselor and maybe individual counseling for each of us.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm going to make an effort to show her every day how I still find her desirable with the lights off and no one doesn't say that and she is going to make an effort to believe me when I try to tell her I love her the way that she is. We are going to talk to her mum and sister and tell them that we are taking a break from them. We are going to block them on our shit together before we allow them back into our lives. Thank you everyone who tried to help me. I would also like to add that I did not think there were were too many guys out there with weird blue squid lady it isn't for me but you do you oh some comments probably said that they found him attractive. Wow. Listen, is it done? He's done.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So basically, the fuck up here is she didn't listen to him and listen to other people and they scare storied her into thinking that her husband, who was quite clearly telling her how much he adored her was still going to leave her if she didn't throw out her turkey neck. She has looked at her mum and sisters, who is he? Bruce? Binky Bob's faces for however long they've had it done and become Normalized but convinced. Yeah, that's that. Yeah is the beauty standard
Starting point is 01:10:58 And that's really fucking scary because so that is that is reality for so many with it is It's for so many people men and women and women, I take that back. Listen, all jokes aside, and I'm sorry I laugh, but his descriptions and stuff and me visualising it, she's lucky to have him, he's lucky to have her, and together... It's great that they've been able to talk through it and actually realise where the poison is in him. And it's not fair to think he's an arsehole in any way. No, it's not fair to think he's an asshole in any way. No, it's not. Yeah, when he didn't ask for this
Starting point is 01:11:27 and she, it doesn't sound like she just had a little nip and tug, it sounds like she's gone more extreme. Full work. Yeah, full work. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't want to- Like who there? Who there? Yeah, no!
Starting point is 01:11:39 I don't think he wants her to do anything else, but she could have her lips dissolved and any other fillers dissolved. I don't know whether dissolving any part of that is gonna make anything else look better. I don't know. Me neither. I have no idea. But in my head I off that. I've seen a lot of people with a lot of fillers migrating and all that sort of shit is shit you need out your face that's gonna constantly move fillers. I'm glad they're resolved yeah I'm glad I'm glad he lost his shit because he was able to say to her I've got
Starting point is 01:12:11 like loads of shit in my eyes and actually that they they are able to communicate yes effectively yes it's a shame they didn't in the first place yeah I think that if she had said oh my mum dad keeps saying you're gonna leave me and he then got in there before she done weird shit to herself. I am absolutely not. Don't listen to your mum and sister. Of course. Because at the state of them, I do not find them attractive. I think you are the most beautiful woman in the world to me.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I just think it's, I think it's sad. It's massively sad. And there's probably so many stories that are similar to that. That's what I'm saying. So, right. Alright my darlings, I'm gonna go because one needs the bathroom. Always. I always do need the bathroom. I didn't last time though, you did last time. Was it me? Yeah. I didn't go wee wee last time. Peace and love. Yeah. Love who you are. And will communicate. Yeah communicate and really really research and make sure you got a
Starting point is 01:13:11 Recall of a plan of action if shit fucks up man. Yeah, make sure you read the small print. It's scary really Yeah, peace and love by my darling Like for less of square Oh yeah, I always forget...

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.