Middle-aged opinion - Yes You are the devil

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Today we talk about stories that are taken from different sub- Reddit’s of people that determine the story worse than am I an arsehole meaning that you are the devil 

Wow. What do you think of that? What don't you think of that? I think that girl has got everything that she needs. Excuse me. One candlestick holder. Stripping my way on over to you. It's just dickhead dirt. Dickhead dirt.

It's now fake everything we say. Shut up. Right. My bad. One vase. It's annoying. This is why I don't want to sell on Fingibob. One candlestick holder. Candlestick holder.

And one bowl thing. Bowl thing. That's what I'm writing. One bowl thing. How do you sleep in what I'm writing, one bowl thing. How do you sleep in here? You ain't even got a fan. I have. It's in a box somewhere, though.

When we're millionaires, babe, don't worry. You have 20 fans. I might get air con when I'm a multi-millionaire. We'll ask James to come do our air con. Yeah, I'll be like, can I please have some air con? Yeah. Although I don't like sleeping with air con either. No, I hate air con.

Yeah, it drives you out. I really hate air con. I'd rather have underfloor heating. Ooh. Imagine both. Yeah. Although I don't like my feet being hot. No, me neither

but when you get out of the shower and the bath and that that's lovely that's nice yes did you have that

in the old place what under floor heat yeah no it's alright I can jump off of no he's done it for you who

that he's done it for you yeah I had to come out and go in it again right so yo hello everyone and welcome to middle-aged opinion no yep no because i didn't say podcast did i we don't need to say do we not say we ever said podcast i don't know hello everyone and welcome to middle-aged opinion i'm your host ellie i'm emily and still after all these months i don't know hello everyone and welcome to middle-aged opinion i'm your host ellie i am emily and still after all these months i don't know what's happening every time so today we are

looking at what we're looking hang on hang on it won't say it in there because it's over there because I saved it am I the devil yes am I the devil so depends who you are no you're not depends who you are

so am I the devil basically is a subreddit of where people have read people's stories that can be am I an arsehole here there and everywhere

and they deem these people so bad that they move them over to the subreddit and like the devil because their stories are just unbelievable so i found some really appalling ones and then i actually felt like i couldn't even read it because i was i didn't want to i didn't want to come under any sort of category because i've read their story out loud like they offend i felt offended yeah but that's what i'm saying you know it was bad so bad yeah that's why they put over there i haven't got the nerve to write that so i've i've actually got so much from that um because you know i was just like mate you're out of control so I'm gonna start us with my 25

male sister 26 female is mad I don't want a relationship with her friend how can I express how I how I it hurts me could have done without the I what they mean is how it hurts me I'm so angry at my sister and it's getting ridiculous she sighed did I say that yet ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous and she's siding with her friend over me mind you she's only known her friend since college and me our entire life so anyway here's. Apparently, she's confessed to my sister that she has had a crush on me for years. And she was scared to tell my sister. My sister said we would be a great couple and told me she is and told me she really isn't my type she's super religious but i'm not and some other stuff anyway i did agree to give it a shot we went on one day and hooked up afterwards i

decided she wasn't my type and stopped replying after hooking up yeah now my sister is furious at me the thing is i can't control my feelings apparently she feels i led her and she wouldn't have hooked up with me if she knew i was going to ghost her but i didn't know i was going to ghost her. I just reflected after the date and realised we are different. Sometimes everyone does. I don't know. This is all just crazy and I have had to force myself to explain this. Am I the devil? No.

Not the devil no not a devil probably made some poor choices and broke somebody's heart bless her she clearly sounds a little bit more vulnerable than what he sounds really needy in my opinion i'm gonna call her vulnerable okay needy yeah that's that's everybody's nice way of saying me because he said that she was quite religious so in in that sense there's a possibility that she thought like this was love and that's why she went the extra but she went the extra on the first date babe listen i'm not judging her on that listen i don't maybe she felt there was something more happening well she said she's been in love with him for years right yeah but it's she still slept with him on the listen i'm not defending him because he got his leg over because he got his leg over right and he was like i can see myself having a quickie

here let's see if anything because he already knew she's already into me right it's a sure right they knew that he knew they didn't have anything in common he probably didn't really fancy her or probably would have approached the situation before so he thought she wants to so i'll give her a bit of nookie and that's that because that's what's happened but the reason he was moved over is because people are mad they said you slept with her and decided that you used her for sex simple as that you're a dickhead and that's where people are coming from he's a massive dickhead and it's his sister's mate and yeah you know there's a whole other level of shit in this thing exactly then we've got uh yeah he knew he had no intention of a relationship before the date it does seem that he just slept

with her because he could it's not uh that hard to not treat your sister's friend like trash so i agree actually i think he did sleep with her because he could and he had definitely no intention of taking it any further any time so he is a massive arse i don't think he's the devil no i don't i don't think it's no the devil no yeah arsehole major yeah i mean he already knew it weren't going anywhere he did know so he should have taken her to dinner see if they had anything in common and called it a day but he took it that one step further by that's because his ego was leading him because she probably literally like laid it on him yeah how much she loves him yeah and it's just it's how gorgeous he is and how much she's always fancied

him yeah i mean she's she did still put out though babe do you know what i mean yeah so like he wasn't complimenting her back so i think he probably was he probably was because he knew it was a short fit my point is that because i don't care if you put out on the first date or what but if you're going to put out expect um yeah the full back the full back because i don't she must have known that you weren't really into it either because he definitely would have would have probably jumped on it a little bit sooner. Yeah, there would have been more to it, like, you know. But I think, yeah, I think she's 5% to blame and he's 95%. How about that? If you like.

Yeah. Because I have to give her a little bit because she was like... You love me. For being so fucking naive. Yeah. You love yourself, girl. Exactly. Right.

Over to you. Respect yourself. Literally. All right, this one's one of those ones I'm like oh it's a bit of a naughty one okay we like naughty ones

not naughty I mean did it upset you I like ones where you get upset no not like that so this one is am I the devil

for financially supporting my sister who is a human trafficker so now I've got the fucking number i said it was naughty it's a naughty one okay okay okay i mean i only read a little bit and like yeah i might save that one because that's gonna enrage you during the story i prefer that you know i prefer it when we don't read to over reading because i like my reaction like that one i read well i told you we're in that where i was wearing the pink and the white shirt and then the last story i thought would just finish us off nicely and you were

getting cross up and cross up and i was getting more excited as i was reading because it just kept getting worse to go find that girl and message her and say, how many podcasts before that comes on? That's what I'm trying to get done for next week. Perfect. Because it's a hickle-dee-pickle-dee. I feel like you've got to re-upload it. It's all labelled. I don't know what to say.

I labelled it for you. It's her fault. It's not mine. It's just long. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway.

So, am I the arsehole? This is how it started yeah and he got moved obviously yeah for sending money to my half sister now against the wishes of my wife and other sisters so that's how it started before we got moved over right because he clearly didn't explain why he was sending over money right right my dad. My dad had an affair and left to be with his new girlfriend. They had a daughter, Liz. My dad passed away a few years ago. I met Liz maybe five times in my life, the last of which was my dad's funeral.

I got a letter from Liz a few weeks ago it turns out she's in prison she owed an employment agency that was taking money from criminals to falsely to falsify paperwork and send traffic trafficked workers to work in slave-like conditions she got a long sentence good liz wanted me to visit her which i did where she asked me for some help she said her mother and all her friends have cut her off once they found out what she was doing good nobody is talking to her or visiting her good she made a lot of money through her criminal criminal activities with several homes and vehicles and nice clothes all of it is gone the police took everything she doesn't have a penny to her name she will be homeless when she gets out and her company has been shut down.

The prison she is in has a scheme where well-behaved prisoners don't have to wear uniforms and can wear their own clothes, provided they aren't a security risk, meaning anything that could cause a prisoner to be mistaken for a guard. Liz left a few of the dresses she owned at her former friend's place and her mother's place. Obviously I don't agree with how she was able to afford those dresses but i think that those prison uniforms are pretty uh dehumanizing she she oh don't look at me don't hit me humanizing right so beach she already she's already being punished by being in there and doesn't need to be humiliated further. She said she wanted to feel beautiful again and wanted her dresses back. It wouldn't cost me anything, so I thought it wouldn't do any harm to get the dresses and bring them to the prison.

Liz also asked if I could send her some money. The prison provides things like toiletries and personal care items, but they are very low quality. However, better ones are available for prisoners to purchase. She's also started working out and prisoners can buy things like protein shakes and she also wants to buy makeup. I've said I would send her 50 a week which isn't much for me but is a huge amount in prison. 50 a week that's a lot of money that's 200 pounds a month brother yeah she was delighted and hugged me however i told my wife katie and she was very upset we have a six-year-old son and a four-month-old daughter katie said that they should that they should be priority not my long-lost sister I think it's possible to care for all of them at the same time but my wife says Liz is not our problem I spoke to my older sister Sarah

about this but she utterly despises my dad uh his new wife and their offspring. She went... That made me laugh, sorry. Offspring. She went mad at the fact that I'd helped Liz get her clothes back and said that the pampered little princess deserves to suffer in prison. That's what I'm saying. I'm sorry, but Liz is a person.

She... Don't hit me stop reading fucking bullshit i'm sorry but liz is a person yeah in capital letters she has everything taken away from her and has no prospects but when she's released she's fam she's family just like katie my kids and sarah i'll stop sending sending the money because katie is unhappy but i think this deserves some love and comfort and i want to try and change katie's mind go on then see if you can find me the violin yeah the world's smallest violin so i can play a tune for her this bitch is dehumanized or whatever fucking word he said when she trafficked people in disgusting conditions and she wants to put on a fucking dress she gonna lost her fucking mind honestly he's a fucking knobhead i don't care how sorry you feel for her she done something so she made human beings into fucking fucking fucking bitch

what come on so the first one fucking bitch she had everything taken away from her oh no she was human trafficker and in and is facing the consequences she's basically a slaver a modern day slaver she is yeah the next person i'm sorry but liz is a person so are all the people liz helped to try but she didn't seem to care much about them also please be fake please be fake please be fake please be fake please be fake did he respond to any of it? I don't know who not no Howie's got any sympathy for that i'd be like you've done this to yourself mate uh she's dehumanized because she wears no they haven't actually all the stuff's been blocked out of that one yeah it's what i've just said like so that person there is like reading this story i

just repeatedly said what about the people she enslaved like 20 times oh god the fuck Holly like actually I think this is the single worst am I the arsehole post I've ever seen the level of evil

inside OOP and Liz's heart cannot be um compared right like i just small young people most likely women and girls were kidnapped drugged sold by family members um abandoned trying to pay off their debt to come over to this country. Whatever else the force is. And forced into a state of constant, never-ending fear with little, no hope to escape. Then it's all blanked out because I have no idea. It's the fucking audacity to me. It's audacity.

I think he's... I think he's in the right place, actually. Am I the devil? Yes. your sister certainly is mate i i don't think he should be helping her no not at all i think there is a consequence for your actions and that's what she needs to be paid some people go to prison for like taxes for um she needs to be paying her debt for uh fucking there's many things right that are not compared to this situation she literally literally took advantage of vulnerable people just trying to start a life wherever it is that they're from and took all their money had them do slave labor and bitch wants to put on a dress go and fuck yourself and your mum bitch and that's how that's how i feel about that you've got anything else to

say no she's a bitch you're a bitch are you good bitch bitch yeah it's not great is it it's so bad honestly i don't know why he feels sorry for her maybe because everyone's abandoned her i think i think that's it he feels i think he's feeling sorry for him having some sort of actual humanity in him he's feeling sorry for her because she's pathetic yeah but she's more than she's worse than pathetic he needs to leave her be because actually i think she's a manipulator because i think yeah she's just trying to manipulate somebody else he needs to take a step back and and not get involved don't get involved listen if he wants to go and see a

fine whatever half sister but don't like uh involve yourself in that mate because she's she's going to a very special place when she dies i can assure you right moving on you thought you'd enrage me with that one bitch bitch that one was a bitch was that the first one no second it was my first one

yeah your first one so shit okay am I the arsehole for leaving my husband for his brother and expecting our families to eventually accept us

no just keeping it in the family and then in red in a box it says romantic right okay i 32 female have been married to my ex-husband tom 34 male for five years didn't even make it to seven we can't even give an excuse can't even give her the seven year itch we had been together since college and while our relationship was stable it had become increasingly boring over the years that's marriage brother yeah the mundane things in life are real you have to get through them as well i'm a housewife um about more than a year ago, Tom's brother, Jake, 31, and I got close after he came to stay with us for a few days and soon started having an affair. Day three. Having an affair. I knew it was wrong, but the connection I felt with Jake was something I hadn't experienced with Tom in years. Connection I felt with Jake was something I hadn't experienced with Tom in years.

That's going to wear off as well, sweetie. This went on for a while until one evening Tom caught me and Jake together. He was devastated and furious and demanded that we both leave the house. We moved out and we're staying at Jake's place. Both our families completely cut us off and refused to speak to us. Soon we got engaged and when Jake's family found out about this, Jake's family gave him an ultimatum to choose either me or his family or they would cut him off cut him off take him out the wheel and disown him I tried to convince him otherwise but Jake chose his family

ah bitch now what chose his family he cut off all contact with me yeah leaving leaving me to figure everything on my own i tried to contact him but he just doesn't respond to me i'm considering reaching out to my family to try and mend fences but i'm unsure if it's even possible at this point, I didn't accept it. And I didn't extend or. No, you're going to have to read it. Anticipate. There you go. I didn't anticipate the extent of the fallout.

Why? I don't know. But my parents and sister refused to speak to me and have decided to cut me out of the inheritance i'm currently crashing on a friend at a friend's place and nowhere else to go so am i the arsehole for leaving my husband for his brother and expecting our families to accept us go absolutely i'm sorry What a lunatic. What, you thought because you're keeping it in the family, everyone would be all right about it?

What is, yeah. Yeah, there's no bad blood here. We're all still family. You're tall brothers, literal brothers apart. But fuck Jake as well. Yeah. Fuck him. I mean, I'd still be cutting him out of that wheel.

Or definitely making it a smaller cut. How families hurt each other like this is beyond me it's madness so top comment says is this if this isn't rage bait then yeah you're the you're the arsehole um i'm impressed that you don't think otherwise if if this is rage bait good story bro and then someone else said i didn't i didn't anticipate the extent the fallout that's the final nail for me to not take this seriously i i don't know i do not okay i actually cannot see her point of view i can't i actually cannot see her point of view i can't see it at all all right you got every you got everything that was coming to you she they clearly weren't that in love no because he was like brother obviously was like i've got nowhere to live let's rock up at my brother's place oh i'm not his wife but i'm here yeah oh let's run away together it was it's

magical then we're gonna cut you off the good and the will oh let's dump that bitch see you later there's plenty of fish there was plenty of fish before you stuck your dick in her mate like honestly she's a massive slag day three day three so he's gone there for a couple of nights day three she slept with him and then they're in love yeah you but you are in the right reddit you are the devil oh it's pretty vulgar it's so weird that people do such weird things you can't give me this we're so in love because if if your um brother i'm trying to think of the way of saying that if you're it would be my sister my sister's boyfriend and i was getting a vibe or uh my i'm trying to think of the way of saying that. If it would be my sister's boyfriend and I was getting a vibe,

or my... I'm trying to think how that would work. Paul's brother come to stay and I was getting a vibe, I'd, like, step away from that situation. I wouldn't say anything to cause any tension, but I would definitely be like, that's weird. Yeah, I'd be out, mate. I'm out. Yeah, I'm going to go and stay around blah blahs for a couple

of nights now yeah bye time to go home yeah idiot mate honestly i feel like it's getting warmer up here or i'm just getting more excited it was you're the trafficker one see it spiraled me could you imagine i mean honestly, the nerve of the brother. Yeah, to hurt his brother like that. That's what's so shocking. It's not even her, babe. It's the bond of brother and sister. I can't believe that his family's like, pick her or the bonds,

and he's like, all right, I'm choosing the money. So, hang on a minute. What about your brother maybe they can heal from this but she will never she thought that she was in love with jake she thought we're in love now but they weren't actually in love and it was a waste of everyone's fucking time my life it's disgusting thank god they i mean no mention of children i'm hoping there's no children yeah i hope not i hope not but who fucking knows fucking massive isn't it yeah i know right i hate that we're we're kind of getting at a point where we're starting to expect it there's similarities and stories now isn't there yeah like there's a lot of shit

there's more wrongings than you ever expect there to be even though we know there's wrongings because we've seen a lot for ourselves it's just some the level of some people will go to is crazy to me that there's no uh loyalty is that you couldn't write this shit but actually so many people actually are going through the same type of shit yeah it's like what yeah sometimes you know even in life when i've had friends tell me stories sometimes i'm like my mouth's like wide open because i'm like you're really saying this stuff out loud it's awful it's so honestly this happened in real life yeah real life you actually did this to someone yeah yeah yeah yeah well never seems to be amazed go on hit us with the next i'm saying i like this reddit thread i do they're all out of control implications of her birth plan okay so am i it's come from

am i the arsehole for asking my wife to think about the long-term implications of her birth plan okay okay uh so throw away because my friends know my name. Okay. I know dudes get ripped in here for posting their opinions about birth. But I think this is an important opportunity for my wife. And I'm posting because I believe the situation is erased and she's not hearing me out okay my 34 male wife Beth 28 female is 33 weeks pregnant we're both very we're both very ready for this baby to come my mum is super hands-on with my entire family. My two brothers' wives are very close with her, but Beth has just never really clicked with the way the others two did. I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me that my wife seems disinterested in getting closer with my

mum and my sister-in-laws. For all five of the births of my sister-in-laws and my mum's three births they were all unmedicated. It is clearly a point of pride for all of them to have done it naturally. My mum said she chose to do it because she didn't want me and my brothers born doped up and she wanted to experience the full spectrum of becoming a mother. Carry on. Beth, on the other hand, is very fearful of birth and has talked to our doctor about being medicated. I don't love the idea of the mother of my child being loopy,

oh my God, and out of it at such a critical moment but those concerns fell on deaf ears when I raised them. I felt very excluded during this discussion around pain management and neither Beth nor our doctor were receptive of my ideas relax relax that's okay my mum was asking me about our birth plan the other day and i don't know why i did this but i just sort of panicked and told her that beth was going for the all-natural way like she did and my sister-in-laws have to say my mum freaked out with happiness is an understatement she was thrilled that Beth was open to experiencing the full range of motherhood and this might sound crazy but I think if Beth shared the rite of passage with my mum and sister-in-laws they might finally gel he wants to get a life i told beth about my slip up like he's now himself because he's going to slip up

to see if she'd be open to changing her mind given how this could serve as a crucial bonding experience for them to share and she lost her mind. Yelling about how she wasn't going to compete with my mum and sister-in-laws during her birth again and again which I don't think is fair because it was it will be an experience we both go through just differently dickhead I was just trying to get her to see that there was an opportunity for her to create some sisterhood with the women of my family I wasn't dictating or even pressuring her i just thought she would want to know how happy it made my mom gives a fuck she she told me she didn't give a fuck about sisterhood which was very intense because beth does not swear i wasn't trying to upset her either i just think she would be wise to see the potential long-term implications of not having this shared experience with my mum and sister-in-law

but beth has been furious to the point of not speaking to me for several days and I'm starting to wonder if I'm in the wrong. Even if I was trying to help, am I the arsehole? Okay. Okay. So, first of all, so I always allocate for the father saying they should be there in the room, part of it, blah, blah, blah. It takes two to make that baby. Absolutely. in the room part of it blah blah blah yeah it takes two to make that baby absolutely but when i say that not at any point do i mean you have any fucking right at all to decide what your wife

is going to take not take fucking do during the birth because let me tell you for me personally that was one of the most painful things i have ever done and then even after all of the 18 and a half hours two and a half hour pushing another 20 minutes further in uh in theater they had to push him back up inside me to then have a c-section so if Paul was on the side going don't do this don't take that i would have punched him straight in the face and told him to get out so i think when it comes to that that's all on mum that's her choice absolutely i'm not being funny yet but we have all had kids in our group and every single one of us did it different and we all had a different experience even the ones that did have medication still had different experiences than the next one

that did and then the ones of us that didn't still had different experiences yeah so and and all of us so what does he do then if she went okay I'll do the natural white and it went fucking wrong? What happens if she got, like, for me, so I went all the way to dilation. And then a month scorns her. I was pushing. Then they tried the forceps, this, that and the other, had the spinal block

and then ended up needing a C-section anyway. But that's worse getting to that part yeah than it is and then the second a being the second i did everything right all the exercise but everything right in order to not have a mass because i ended up with digestional i'm saying that wrong digestional diabetes is that right yeah i think so yeah where my first was 10 pound 15 ounces and was five weeks premature at 6 12 so still a massive baby and i had i went in big for premature it is five weeks premature yeah yeah yeah so i went in i went i went in for a growth scan as well early yeah i went in had my growth scan and they were like you're in labor your waters are broke like when did that happen when did that happen and then um still you know

really hours are gone hours are gone i mean that is a story for another day because jenna fucking jenna mate come up uh because she wanted to be part of the birth she's like a clown mate it was well funny but that's another story for another day anyway so that like doing everything i should you know trying to die late ended up being another emergency his heart rate dropped i had to have an emergency spinal block and then an emergency c-section you don't know what's coming in your birth if you can plan it and you had didn't you have a water birth so my first I had a water birth yeah um and I had paracetamol that was the only yeah no no I didn't have paracetamol I had uh I had the gas in there nice good times it was good I liked gas it was good I wish we could get that from summer and just walk around with it I'd be a much happier person but yeah no that but my experience

being that was my first birth I had nothing to go off of of course yeah but I would have said that I had quite a good experience because I did I did the full lot yeah in the water I did what I wanted to do and it went to my plan yeah second yeah that did not go to plan that was supposed to be a water bath as well yeah and i swear to god the woman forgot to put the plug in the no i swear it was running forever it felt like that bath was running and not filling up and not helping with your i was pacing i was pacing back and I'm thinking, this fucker ain't like. This is not filling up. And then the next thing I knew, my waters had broke.

And I'm like, call the nurse. He's coming. I swear, I flooded that room. I flooded that room. And he's out there going, pressing the button. Nurse. Please come. and he he's out there going pressing the button no please come and then the next the next thing i knew i was literally like bent over and he was coming but that was it but that with him i had nothing there was no paracetamol my body went into shock with that one i think however she does it

doesn't make it any less of a woman in any way at all. And I think, you know, if she wants all the drugs that are available. Fucking take them. Take them. It's none of your business. Because I tried all of them. And I was on the Gatineau as I got my spinal block. Good times. Good, good times.

And I think it's really a shit world that we live in when you've got to bring someone else down. Because someone had a paracetamol. Yeah. You know, and had a natural birth. that's not the case for everyone so mind your business yeah top one says it's well at this point it's 2023 and people are still trying to force women into the noble suffering narrative yeah i'm not violent but i reckon i would have taken a swing at my partner if he had suggested no pain relief while I was giving birth. I think he's still breastfeeding off his mum.

Just come in my mind. I do. I think he still gets a bit bitty. But it's not her birth. They'll be going through it together. But they won't, though. I promise you, you won't be going through it at the same time. He's the coach and she's the

quarterback oh shut up they're a team there's no i indeed yeah he's genuinely thinks he should get 50 of the decision making capacity they don't care doctors don't care what you've got to say you are not the one to fuck the right way off yeah Yeah. That's where I'm at. You just need to be prepared if there's a medical emergency. Do you know what? I see where he wants her to have a connection with his mum. Again. Because he's obviously watching his brother's wife. Because he's still breastfeeding.

Having a connection with his mum. Yeah. And he clearly wants her to be involved in that. But she's never going to be involved if she's forced into random shit she doesn't want to do. No. It's only going to push her further away. And the thing is, when you have a baby and there are other women who have had a baby, you've already got that connection of let's compare our births.

How was yours? Fucking awful. How was yours? I can't actually complain. Yeah, yeah. How did it all happen? Yeah, we had a great nurse no we fucking yeah i think ultimately you know it's a very sensitive day when you go into labor because when you're becoming a first-time mum all of a sudden

especially when your waters break i don't know if you felt the same but i was like i was in the water when mine i was like i've actually changed my mind and uh I don't want to do this now no I was I was in the water and I found that yeah mine was like that I was like I was uh laying on the bed I'd been given because I went in to have my waters broke because I was 42 weeks with my uh eldest you're a proper hanging oh mate it was so hot as well it's 2006 so it was like that heat wave that we had and i went in and i had a trapped nerve in my arms i remember coming around to your flat and you were standing in the doorway like this help me i can't even get through the door help me so i went in they gave me a valium so i could get some sleep because they've done the

sweep and all that sort of stuff giving me the pessary inside gave me a valium so i could get some sleep because they've done the sweep and all that sort of stuff giving me the pessary inside gave me a valium so i could actually get some sleep before the stuff started so i was laying in bed and then i heard the pop and then it just fucking went everywhere but they said when you go in you get scammed they were like you are in labor i was like oh shut up you've been saying that for two weeks fuck off but yeah i think leave it to her try not to force her and think because i think it's only going to push her further away from her mom and her mom well the wives yeah providing that mom and the sister-in-laws aren't like oh well we did it better like have that sort of attitude do you know what pisses me off what i do here is a lot of women go you had a c-section you had it the easy way i can fucking women say that all the time to other women i can

assure you a cesarean section is not the fucking easy way out you're cut your muscles are cut your wounds cut everything in between is cut and you're left with this um wound at the bottom of your stomach you're not allowed to lift heavy i can assure you it's not a choice that's not a choice it's not an easy way out either because i know there are a lot of women that feel like they've been robbed yes of that i felt that way yeah that's why like when i had to be told that you had the easy let me say all the time when i had the eye that is why i was so careful because like i say it wasn't until i had and he was 10 pound 15 ounces did they realize that i was diabetic yeah so when i was pregnant with i did everything in my power because i was desperate for a natural birth

um i didn't get it I still was lucky enough to breastfeed which I remind him of and it really upsets him so I like that um but yeah I think um giving birth is a beautiful thing not all women are lucky enough to experience it through many many problems and I think women first of all stop bringing each other down you ain't special if you have a natural birth with nothing you're not special if you take all the drugs at the end of the day if you've got a baby that makes it all the way through that and is happy and healthy you've won you've won yeah it is a miracle that that baby made it through yeah and stop trying to force people into into your ideology of what a situation should

be she's just doing her best yeah if she's scared try and you know let her be scared because it's a fucking scary process it is a scary process because really you don't know what's coming well the thing is even when you have had a baby and you're on your second or third fourth whatever yeah you still don't know what's going on and that's what i'm saying like so you're on your second or third fourth whatever yeah you still don't know what's going on and that's what i'm saying like so you're you know you get pregnant the same no no the pregnancy itself is scary no child could go wrong yeah trust something could go wrong then you go through the um you know the birth of the child which again in my case uh led them to be really concerned for my mortality because of the amount of blood that I was losing in that um luckily I was fine then after that

trust me still so my eldest has just turned 18 and I'm it's a constant worry all the time so really as mothers and women we should just be supporting each other yes yeah that's all there is to it exactly and not trying to be like oh i did it better than you because there is no such thing as better than you no so but yeah anyway it's a deep that's a deep one that one wouldn't yeah hopefully this will upset upset you but i don't know yet what anyone that's the main time let's go and annoy you again am i the arsehole for humiliating my sister at a family reunion oh no yeah yeah every year my male 21 family have a tradition where we do a talent show during it doesn't say that during reunions my sister female 23 who loves writing poetry decided to perform this year she was excited and nervous which i could see and i know

she put a lot of effort into the poem i will say oh if we wouldn't go up then I will say that the poem was a little bit of a cringe I've said the talent show was a little bit of a cringe and uh emotional side okay and uh which is why I did what I did as my sister was uh recanting poem, I thought it would be funny to stir the pot a bit. Right before she was about to finish, I started clapping loudly and making sarcastic comments like, wow, Emily, that was that was something. And I thought this was a poetry reading not a therapy session I even joked that she should stick to writing in her diary no you didn't stop it that's fucking hilarious I'm glad we weren't there in that purgy reading.

Oh, am I? And do you know whose fault it would have been? Yours. Always yours. Always mine. I thought it was harmless and fun. I don't want to go out anymore. I thought it was harmless and fun that everyone would see it as a joke. I didn't expect the room to fall silent or my sister to look so hurt.

to full silence or my sister to look so hurt my uncle's dad my uncle dad's brother laughed and so did my 16 year old younger brother but I could tell my sister was really upset um I didn't back down or apologize because honestly I thought she needed to learn to laugh things off. I always been that type to push boundaries and didn't think this was a big deal. After the talent show, after the talent show, my sister seemed really down and the mood of the reunion. I'm going to snort. I'm going to make my nose bleed again, was off for the rest of the day. My grandma tried to comfort her, but I could tell my sister was about to cry. Since then, the reunion was yesterday.

My sister has not talked to me and my parents are also really upset with me. I'm now second guessing whether I crossed the line. I thought I was just being funny and keeping the mood light. But it seems like I might have been a arsehole. Was I wrong to do this? Am I the arsehole? It sounds like you were a little bit of an arsehole. I mean, he was an arsehole.

Poetry comes from the heart didn't it yeah i feel like you were a bit more awesome i feel like she was trying to read i mean not when he went you should stick to writing in your diary i mean i want to know what the poem was about for him to say like why he says i think i think um i would have giggled like underneath but i think that's i think he took it too he should never have done that especially since she hadn't even finished i mean like proper cut her off like cut her off at the most thing you know depressing part of the whole problem like i'm sick of this. Well done. Yeah, way! Yeah, you finished that. Oh, you're not. Shit. Right.

Obviously, he's been put over there. Am I the devil? You're the arsehole. Massive. Yeah, you are a massive arsehole. Yeah. You decided what was best for her and you were totally wrong. It takes a lot to put yourself out there and open up feelings to people can we just talk about the family talent show yeah do you know what it takes a lot to to

to put on a family talent show oh just to do anything in front of your family especially when you know when you've got a bunch of assholes in them would you really know she made that choice she made that choice i don't i don't think she did anything wrong i think he took it too far oh he absolutely did but she made that choice i'm going to read one of my poems in front of my not stick to your diary though i think he's the arsehole he took it too far oh no he's a massive arsehole yeah he's made his sister really sad. There was no need for that.

You shouldn't have done that. Although, would I have laughed? I'm not going to lie. I would. I have laughed. Yeah, I would have been like you. I would. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. If I was that sister, I probably would have cried. Yeah. Yeah, in front of everyone. I mean, why didn't he let her finish and then take the piss like a normal person because he's an arsehole but then even then i wouldn't have taken the piss even whether i liked it or not yeah it probably would have been a little bit more low-key with the uncle with the brother like if they're on yeah i would have whispered that to you

not loudly in front of everyone because if you're doing that and your sister's you know, they're clearly feelings, deep feelings. And then you want to, like, tear her down. You're an arsehole. Are we finishing off? I don't know. Have you?

How many have I done? Two. Yeah, so you need to read and then I'll finish off, yeah? You are. It's because we keep going on fucking tangents and rants about these dickheads i like this reddit fred yeah but i don't know which one i want to do now i like that they're a while so give me the titles and i'll tell you okay did i ruin my marriage off of did i ruin my marriage by requesting a dna test okay um and i was on my cell number these were easy to find these ones weren't they yeah

everyone's like massive assholes I don't know or one. Am I the devil to treat my ex-girlfriend like a Barbie doll and traumatise her? But hey, I don't want it to be my fault. I want the DNA one. DNA. Let's do the DNA. DNA. This one has been deemed arsehole from another realm. They're all deemed arsehole.

Alright, that's not too bad. Because they deserve it. That's why I like it. Okay, did I, 32 male, ruin my marriage by requesting a DNA test? My 32 male wife, 31 male don't what yes he means female i'm going with female being my wife yeah gave birth to our newborn baby three months ago and i thought things were fine however my my wife did not. Two months in, my wife approached me saying that she was exhausted from taking care of the baby alone and she asked me why I wasn't helping.

I told her that I thought I was helping, but she pointed out that I never get up at night, I never get the baby while it's crying, never change the baby or do anything. it was going to cause a fight so i tried to change the subject she told me that i should just tell her because if i didn't she was going to go to her parents house for help until she until sorry that is not spelled right for help until she went back to work they put the in it i don't know you do make sense anyway i didn't want her i didn't want that so i told her that i wanted a dna test she said she wish i would have told her this when she found out she was pregnant. I didn't understand that because she agreed to it. She didn't seem mad or upset. She just said that I could set it up and we'd get it done because she didn't make the baby alone so she shouldn't have to care for it alone. We did the test and when we got the results back, I told her and showed them to her. She didn't say anything about it.

She just asked if I felt safe enough to help now. I said yes. He's a fucking prick. What's he want a DNA test for? Yeah, I'm not really sure. He hasn't mentioned cheating or anything like that. Oh. Soon after that, I noticed her behaviour

starting to change. No shit. Yeah, innit? With me and my family. Everything changed and she started staying in different parts of the house. Parts I wasn't in at the time.

I finally asked her about it recently and she said that she lost all respect for me. she said she spent 10 years of her life with me faithfully just for me to slap her in the face with the dna test i explained that i didn't think she had been unfaithful but i just needed to be sure then you think she's been unfaithful yeah what the fuck uh she said she's trying to work through through it but everything i say sounds moronic and hurt to her and she should just leave it where it is i thought if i showed her videos and had her listen to podcasts about DNA tests she she'd understand

but after the last one she said she was going to stay with her parents I don't know what's happening or how to fix it oh my god you fucked up majorly she wasn't even mad when I asked for it no she's probably disappointed right yeah because she's like why what for i feel like she isn't hearing what i'm saying i don't think anyone is right nobody gets it it isn't that serious and if she could just understand my perspective i think she'll just adjust hers she's not even against dna tests so i'm unsure as to what her issue is i don't know the issue is you think she's cheated on you why would you ask for a dna test other than you weren't sure if that baby was yours not to mention he could just order the test swab the baby's mouth and his own and send it back he didn't even have to involve her in any of that he didn't have to hurt their

relationship by asking for one he could have just done one do you see what i mean but still what for in his mind she's cheated he said about um if i showed her videos and had her listened to podcasts about dna tests so you'd understand what's he trying to what what is his point so unless he is listening to these podcasts and that and on there these men are like they all cheat you know what i mean one of those like a rant one the only the only reason for a dna doesn't think that she's cheated but he clearly does the other reason there is no other reason why there is no other reason he clearly thinks she's cheated otherwise he would um no he clearly thinks she's cheated otherwise he would not but that's what

i'm saying if he if he did think she cheated he didn't even have to involve her no he could have just in the dna test but he's decided to fucking stir shit up and make it like a whole thing he's a wounded fucking animal i don't know and he's yeah and he's blaming it on her when basically he said you're a slag and you've been sleeping around but i'm not saying that you have but you're going to the dna yeah which means you think she's cheated on you unless he thinks god himself came down and put a baby in her and she's married you know what the second probably because she didn't react to it like okay get knackered and disappointed in the lack of faith he has in their relationship yeah

so the top one is she wasn't even mad when i asked for it she wasn't mad at the time because she's too fucking exhausted to even get mad from having to raise your kid alone, you numpty. Yeah. I'm assuming he won't invest in the child. His time and energy runs out of it as well from what you're reading. This motherfucker has never seen a woman be just completely over his shit before, clearly. Or he's too thick to know. Yeah.

I think he's just been talking to too many people i think that's what i'm saying he's got this this toxic energy from somewhere because you wouldn't just i could understand if there was like a history of her cheating this that and the other or something was going on but he hasn't given any evidence to the contrary of anything else other than be like she had a baby so now i want to do that is it going to be like that every single time they have a baby just do the dna test without involving her you could have put your mind at rest and not hurt her feelings but you decided to be a prick we need a dna test just because i need one yeah yeah it's a fucking twat my real sorry mate you are a twat yeah you fucked you have completely fucked over your marriage for no reason whatsoever no reason like you literally

sabotaged your own fucking future for no reason weird unless he's just a massively insecure person but again that still leads me to just do the dna test it's a mouth swab listen do you know where that takes my head where why have you cheated oh yeah what you've been fucking about yeah i think or maybe i've been doing yeah no yeah probably i didn't even go there should have got that should have been the first place we went yeah you're right it's just standard fucking procedure yeah no you're right i didn't i don't know why i didn't go there but you're right he's probably cheating he's probably done something fucking stupid while she was pregnant so if he's done it she must have yeah obviously yeah there you go fucking idiot mate i've ruined your we don't feel like every man is like that no but when they talk like this

like absolute fucking numpties I don't think he's cheated but I need a DNA test then you think I've cheated but clearly you're right he's cheated so let's see where this one takes us am I the arsehole for not going to my daughter's wedding because she connected

because she contacted her grandma so let's find out hello hello hi i'm 48 female and choosing not to go to my daughter's wedding because she contacted her grandmother let's see on my late husband's side let. 25 years ago, my father-in-law called me on the phone to say that I had overspent on my wedding and that it was reflect. It was reflection of of me being snooty and stuck up. I was very hurt. and so was my husband my husband called his dad demanding he apologized but his dad refused his mum called to apologize but my husband and i agreed that it didn't count unless his dad said sorry okay in the end we cut contact with his whole side of the family rich people problem oh so um so that we could start afresh every once in

a while my kids would talk about their cousins on my husband's side or ask to hear stories about my husband growing up in the i'm gonna say it wrong so say it for me indiana indiana and each time i was gonna say that but in case i got it wrong uh growing up in indiana and each time i would get so upset i would get so upset because i remember how his dad made me feel oh bitch well now my kids are grown up and my husband has since passed away my daughter announced to me fairly recently that she has gotten engaged to her long-term boyfriend i was initially happy with her until i saw the guest list almost half of my daughter's side uh what sorry all of my sorry, because a fucking notification came down. I was, until I saw the guest list, almost half of my daughter's side was my husband's family.

She had confessed to meeting many of them and keeping in steady contact with her grandma. I told her that I would not financially contribute to the wedding and did not plan to go if his family attended. contribute to the wedding and did not plan to go if his family attended my new feet my new fiance said i was in the wrong my new fiance bitch um said i was in the wrong and my daughter uh broke a well-established family rule am i the arsehole edit i looked over everything and will go to my daughter's wedding i should have read that after and keep to myself i don't plan to contribute much otherwise also i don't know why i had ohio it was indiana laugh out loud okay go fucking self-righteous mother yeah i will control your wedding yeah your list of people you're inviting is my list of people

and you can't invite your father's family your family i am shooketh that they cut the family off over such a stupid fucking reason they had kids his dad he never saw his dad his mom there's more to this than just that i told you rich people problems and if it's sorry to you and if it is just that my god we are in trouble with society tell you what so what you didn't say sorry to you you literally cut your whole family off and it is your family you married into it therefore it's yours you've got kids it's their family it's just i'm shocked mate to keep her kids away yeah it's not even take a step back don't you yeah of course you can still go see your grandparents of course see your cousins

darling do you know what i don't feel like going but you go with them i'm um if you feel that passionate about having a fucking apology and i'm not a massive one for cutting people off i just generally it's not something that i tend to do it's very rare that i would cut someone off and there are a couple of people that we have cut off as a family and that is because of evil stuff that has been done nothing so stupid as this um and it took me years and years of back forward back forward to get to that point but to cut your family off because you spent too much money on a wedding and he said you're being snooty you want to get it together mate and didn't apologize she wants to miss her daughter's wedding she is now starting the next generation of not talking don't come then mum yeah and then you don't talk and then that's

another generation of family that are seeing you behind your back oh i want to see my grandma i got to do it behind behind my mum's back you're just it's like a cycle um so there are no such thing as family rules that you can extend to your children once they are no longer children and no longer living with you if you don't want to interact with your late husband's mother that's your prerogative your daughter is a whole other human being capable of making her own decisions and has everything and every right to check on them. They may not be part of your family anymore, but they are by choice part of hers. to her own grandmother because you're still upset about a comment that woman's husband made to you 25 years ago yeah that is literally it in a bubble that is how pathetic it is you ain't got to talk to anyone you don't want to but you certainly can't continue your daughter's

fucking wedding because that's what you do. You smile and wave and you fucking get on with it. It's shocking how pathetic people are. That means they ain't got no real problems. That they find problems. That they find problems. What could be a problem? Oh, this non-bullshit.

Oh, he thinks I've spent too much money and might say sorry. He said that I'm snooty and everything. Fuck off. 25 years later. You probably did. Over the years. So what?

See photos. 25 years later, you're still crying about it. Bitch, please. People are dying. Yeah? Honestly. People are dying. People are dying.

You've got some fucking man whose wife shagged his brother and you're crying because she said you spent too much money. I have never, ever encountered such idiosity, mate. I'm telling you. Do you know people like that? I feel like I do. I feel like I do as well. And you're like, mate, stop it.

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