Middle-aged opinion - Your mum is crazy

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Hi everyone, welcome back to another episode today. We talk about mother-in-law‘s from hell you make your mind up but most are pretty crazy with one standing out from the rest almost killing the poo...r baby. We hope you enjoy today’s episode.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wow. What do you think of that? I think, what don't you think of that? I think that girl has got everything that you do. I just can't take it. I'm not on the edge, mate. No. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:00:15 So remember in love from hell? Yes. Okay. Well, we can do that. Just get angry at some other bitches. Imagine if I can't log on mine now. Oh my God. God.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Oh God. Got to be. Right. Saved. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Hello everyone and welcome to Middle-Laged Opinion. I'm your host, Ellie. And I'm your host, Emily. And today we are looking at mother-in-laws from hell. I mean, we all got them, or no one, or met one. Yeah. We did one. Yeah, swerve that.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Or drop-kicked one. They're dead. You know, many, many things could have possibly happened. Oh, dear. But they all seem to be as crazy as the next. Mm-hmm. And then sometimes I do think it is the daughter-in-law or son-in-law that's the problem. I've got one story where I think is unfair.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Okay. Okay. So, but I think that is because I am going to take. can you be the mother-in-law because I've got two boys so fine yeah we're finished okay you're kicking us off right just to let you know I ain't we're using my own laptop today same principle it's the up is down and the down is up oh really yes look at that go where are you going the left is right wherever you want to go let's know how one works mine does what my finger tells
Starting point is 00:01:58 Well, mine's working and yours ain't. So mine is better. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not complaining. It's just different. It's different.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I don't like change. I think you should leave yours open. I've put it over there. I'm going to flush it out on my computer so I can go in and really upset people on your account. On my account. Mental note. Sign out. Your account.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Wow. Yeah, it feels like a plan. I've got nothing else going on in my life. I haven't, you're not busy now? No, not even a little bit. Not even a little bit. I've got loads of time for other people. Not a day goes by when my phone don't buzz, ring, text or I'm catering to someone.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I long for a day where I ain't got getting the car as well at the minute. I want some time of work. I know I've just had a couple of weeks off, but I mean... I want to say work, I mean, like, everything that makes me work. Life then. That's what I mean, I just want to... I'm on holiday. Yes, I just want a holiday.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But it doesn't necessarily have to be abroad, just a quiet... Somewhere where I can sit. And if I don't want to do something, I don't have to worry about doing anything. Yeah. I don't have to feed anybody. You know, I can go all day about eating and have a pot of noodle and I'll be all right. Same. I want to say
Starting point is 00:03:28 just quiet just like just peace look at my new savers jar I did see it it's got 12 pounds in there wow
Starting point is 00:03:38 that's what I had like about it's my holiday jar for next year all right or 30 pounds that's the plan I didn't even
Starting point is 00:03:52 halfway to Scotland or Ireland is it You can get a flight to Scott, Scott one. That would probably be cheaper than the train. It's 56 pounds. Probably cheaper than you. But you can't take the dog.
Starting point is 00:04:05 No, it's too much, isn't it? Yeah. Why can't you take the dog on the aeroplane? I don't understand. Unless. Internal flights you might be able to. Unless I'll get him registered as Paul's dribbler dog. That means Paul's got to go.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Oh, well, I don't want that. We're on the whole thing. Right. So, all right. I'll introduce again in a minute, but guys, we're exciting for me and Emily, we've just added ads. To you, it's going to be annoying if you listen via Apple or any, if you're not subscribed to a podcast mainstream, like for example, I've got Spotify. So because we pay for the subscription, I don't get any ads at all. But if you're not, if you're listening elsewhere,
Starting point is 00:04:48 not YouTube, because we're not there yet, if you're listening via anything else and you're getting the ads. It might be annoying to you, but for us, we don't even know what it is, but it's good for us because it means we've moved a step forward. So just just push through it, okay? Watch the ads. They're literally five seconds. Watch the ads. All you've got to do so it's Christmas shit at the minute. So, and then we were discussing about seeing how slightly confessions, because when I, because yesterday I put it on, like just a screenshot, the screen grab. because I was going to put the first story of
Starting point is 00:05:24 Best of Reddit on yesterday but my first story is like seven minutes, it's the nappy man and then I was like, I don't even think I can put that on certain network I put pictures off at that did you? I put pictures on, of course did.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I love that. I don't watch it, do I? Anyway, I always put pictures on if I can get the pictures. Yeah. So I said to Ems, if this if it's so disgusting if if but I did listen to it and I was like mate I'm still upset by this story and it was so long ago do you know that that we've recorded it feels like it was it was like when I first started college and I'm upset yeah it was when I first started bending pipe like I'm way past that and stop but yeah so I mean Emily we've had to talk
Starting point is 00:06:17 tonight and if this slutty confessions part two does as well as the first one which is our most downloaded and it's 100 downloaded bar anything else looks like we'll be moving to a cdia part mostly not fully but mostly because if you guys like the filth we bring the filth and it's as simple as that and it's a giggle yeah it is funny oh it's disgusting it is you know no it is it's hilarious. I mean, so it's getting to laugh at other people. That nappy story is essentially
Starting point is 00:06:49 slightly confessions. Oh, it's disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm still upset by it. It's so dirty. It's so dirty. You don't watch it. My whole face is.
Starting point is 00:07:00 How it ends? I end the story and I go on, and you go, I've got nothing to say about that. Like it was a personal attack to you. I was just like, That's so dirty. Oh, it's so dirty.
Starting point is 00:07:15 What's been going on in our lives? I've just done science and calculus. Still not really sure what that means, but I've done it, I passed it, got merit. Everyone else in my life is driving me completely potty. Strip the hall. Leaving that now, I think, till after Christmas. Bit of sand in here and there.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Get ready for Christmas. Got clear the fucking you room because that's where we have dinner. I feel like that's it. for me. Oh, no, that's not it. So found out, for some of you that listen to the podcast regularly, you'll know that my mum was adopted, found out that she's got a brother, blah, blah, blah. My brother's done a different DNA test, found out she has three other alive siblings, one's passed away, their half siblings, found out my granddad now got pictures of said granddad
Starting point is 00:08:11 aunties and uncles very exciting Chris is arranging a meet for early spring early summer next year I'm hoping however many cousins that is go yeah very excited about that it will be really good it's really exciting because it would be nice to see the characteristics I mean for me personally when I look at the photos
Starting point is 00:08:34 I think it's the eyes that's what I see I could be wrong I could be wanting to see something yeah but I do I feel like the shape of the eyes and even Steve and my uncle's the colour of his eyes are very similar to my colour so or like us lot but yeah very exciting good times ahead and that's me Emily what's happening
Starting point is 00:08:59 at work as usual work work work work my dad although we don't think anything else has happened since we have lots of medical appointments Dave decided that he's had a stroke, several strokes. So it's good that we're finding out stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a process, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Um, trying to get my living room sorted. Yes. She's only got two weekends left to do it. So we're now on Friday night instead of our normal Saturday. We moved to Friday until after Christmas. Fine. Yeah. It will help us both, though.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, yeah. We've got loads of shit to do as well. You just had an odd sock day for mental health I saw as well. Yeah. Yeah. The kids like the odd sock. I mean, I didn't. It hurts my feeling.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I mean, I'm just doing odd socks because I couldn't be able to dig through and find the other. Do you like the flip-flops in between? I just, it's the flip-flops for me. I tell you why. Because everything's always so wet. Because he drinks and he just goes everywhere. I mean, he doesn't miss a spot. And then yesterday...
Starting point is 00:10:12 I used to actually have socks like that. Do you know that? There were nightclones. Yesterday, where he dug the mud, he brought it all this way. So I swept it, and of course, he was very interested in... I swept it and got the hose on it to move the mud off the patio. It was fucking everywhere. All the way through, and I'd already cleaned and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:10:32 So then I had to go all over again. Then I took him for a walk this morning, and I said to Paul, I know what, because I didn't want anything for Christmas, but actually what I want is haul runners. Black haul runners, not the shit ones, the ones, the rubber back and that absorb everything because I am so sick and tired. Hey, you all love that.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Well, I don't know, she's not bad here now, is she? She walked through because she ain't got no choice. Just leave her out in the hallway. No, leave my baby girl alone. Well, I know what I'm getting her for Christmas. What? Hall runners. No, not haul runners.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So I say it like, you've got carpet. No, I, it's the most annoying thing I've ever brought in. Oh, she's getting it. But I've hidden his. So we're going back. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. He just doesn't stop.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You don't like that and he got, ah! Exactly. So, I had to hide it. Right, okay. We're moving on. Before the battery runs out. God, we hate him.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Started one, we've had technical issues to get me ready. Massive fucking technical issues. Okay, go. Right, we are looking at mother-in-law from hell. So, mother-in-law, control tactics back on fire. Did we do, hello, everyone, welcome to the last opinion. Sure it went on and I never recording. Yeah, it was on another recording, I'll put it in.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or just grab it from somewhere else. I think it was. I think it was on this. Yeah. Right. So, my mother-in-law started taking the same college classes as my husband, who is going back to school.
Starting point is 00:12:10 She chose the same school, professors, same courses, everything because she wanted a career change. It was obvious she was just trying to insert herself into his life and used this as a tactic to get his attention. He literally has his own family, worked full time, is trying to get a promotion at work and has a new, newborn, so he's naturally really busy outside of school. She was constantly bugging him to get his school notes and study with and to study with
Starting point is 00:12:50 her despite his busy schedule. He never really fed into it because everything he had going on came first to him. She used her savings to buy the classes too and was complaining that she really can't fooled it, but she was desperate for a change. Well, I just found out yesterday that she's already failing all her classes and even got dropped from one. I can't help but feel like this is poetic justice and life's way of enforcing its own consequences for overstepping. What do you think? Okay. Right. Okay. So the mum is doing, well, Right, he could be the inspiration.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And I am back at college, and Harry is the one that set that what I was going to do in motion. Not specifically plumbing, but a trade. He set that in motion by his success flourishing, you can do it, this, that and the other. So I'm coming from it from a point of view where I'm not copying my son or wanting to live his life. This wasn't a personal tech, though, babe, okay. Because I am doing something similar, I can commit it from a different angle. Yeah, yeah. And she either is trying desperately to reconnect with her son.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah. Or she has looked at him and gone fantastic. You know what? I'm not too old and I am going to start in a new direction, blah, blah, blah. Or she's obsessed with her son. But even then, it's not that deep. And it's pissed me off a little bit that she's like, I feel like this.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Everything he goes, she does. Well, yeah, I feel like this is an attack on the mother-in-law. It feels like an attack. And even if it is a, he's so busy and I don't get to see him because he has his own life and I feel so disconnected. I'm going to do something so I can do something with him. Yeah. And we can reconnect.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah. I mean, starting college purposely to be with him is a little. crazy but if that's what she feels she had to do to make that connection yeah I feel like um yeah like being a massive bitch yeah but like for me it's not that I'm reconnecting with Harry it's just like a trade is a really good way to go I've got a lot of work left in me do you know what I mean and this is what I'm going to do in the future I will be on a job and I will say I know an electrician who can do that and that would be Harry and he will be on a job and go I know a plumber that can do that and there will be
Starting point is 00:15:39 times that we are working on site together doesn't make me a stalker although I am and I'm proud to admit it but I don't think anyone has the right to call a mother a stalker of their own children but I'm assuming really does not agree with us I don't know who that's what they're going on about the first one but people are like I love it with trash takes itself out now never get in the way of people helping on revealing their true selves. Yep, give people enough rope and they'll hang themselves. Oh, it's because she's failing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. That's really mean. It's really fucking mean. Every week I'd say to Emily, I'm failing. Oh, that's amazing to hear. I admit I was hoping her behaviour would bite her in this way. I hope you both have practiced what to say when she tries to blame him. or you for this
Starting point is 00:16:37 and not let her try to make your responsible I do you know what I just don't feel like there's enough information given about how awful this mother-in-law is for people to be like ha ha ha good it sounds her right
Starting point is 00:16:51 don't get me wrong like two of my stories that I found I have to I happen to agree the mother-in-law is crazy on that occasion but one story I found sometimes I'm just like this whole Reddit thread is literally whether you're the fucking bitch or not
Starting point is 00:17:07 it's always the mother-in-law I don't know if I'm because the boys are getting older I'm becoming more and more frightened the day when someone's writing a Reddit story about me this cunt no I don't know what kind of mother-in-law I'm going to be you know what I mean I don't know
Starting point is 00:17:24 in fact let me do the one that pissed me off mother-in-law father-in-law showed up at the hospital trying to get into labour and delivery the day I gave birth. Oh yeah. Okay. Buckle up.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Buckle up, y'all, because this is wild. I am three months postpartum and still in disbelief over this entire event. For context, I told my husband before I gave birth several times that I did not want my in-laws to come and see the baby until at least a week past, um, past, pertin, pardon? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:04 is pee-p to allow me time to enjoy the baby in peace allow my body time to recover and allow me time to get the hang of breastfeeding without fear of father-in-law sitting across the couch
Starting point is 00:18:20 from me while I'm trying to get the baby to latch. I didn't want to be confined to the nursery all day long with cluster feeding. We live 10 plus hours away from both sets of parents so it wouldn't just be quick popping at the hospital when people visit. It requires that we host them in our home. Something that I'm not willing to do beyond my parents right now after birth because it doesn't
Starting point is 00:18:49 really feel like hosting. My parents, they're very chill and helpful people. I was scheduled for an induction at 41 plus three days but baby decided to come spontaneously the day before. I text my parents as soon as I went into labour around 1am because they were coming down to help us for the first week after birth. I mean she's my mother for Christ's sake. Husband did not text father-in-law or mother-in-law when I went into active labour, but they were aware that I was scheduled for the induction two days later. Fast forward to the golden hour. I found out that not only are my mother-in-law and father-in-law at the hospital,
Starting point is 00:19:38 but they were trying to get into labour and delivery. Father-in-law called my parents at 8am on the morning, asked me if there was any update on me or the baby, because he could see that my husband's location and that we were at the hospital. They were literally hanging out a few hours away at a friend's place, unknowingly to me, so that they could easily get to the hospital for the birth. My mum was weeded out by the fact that father-in-law was tracking his son, and also because she knew I didn't want them there.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Fortunately, by the time I gave birth, visiting hours in the postpartum area were over, so they had to leave. Mother-in-law proceeded to bombard husband with messages asking when they could meet the baby, and when we would be discharged husband told them that we would let them know not even 24 hours later father-in-law mother-in-law told husband that we should try and get discharged ASAP because they were bored and we'd be more comfortable at home mind you we were in hospital for a few extra days because I had a fucking infection and they had to monitor me and the baby's vitals for a few extra days to ensure. sure that I don't get fucking sepsis. I could, I could go on and on because this story gets more and more crazy. But I'm seriously in total disbelief. They showed zero respect for me at the most vulnerable day of my life. Following this, everything they've done has just annoyed the ever-living shit out of me. I'm trying to move past this, but every time I hear their
Starting point is 00:21:26 voices, I get pissed off. Go. No, why I'm pissed. I mean, the entitlement of it all is ridiculous. But also,
Starting point is 00:21:43 is this their first grandchild? Yes. I mean, it doesn't be simply saying that, but I'm... I'm assuming it is because of their excitement. But they should be respecting what's been asked of them but I'd get they're excited but they needed to
Starting point is 00:22:06 wait they needed to wait until they could I don't think it's fair I don't think it's fair that she can have her parents no I agree at her home for a whole entire week but can't have them the boundary she should have laid was you know what I know you're excited I know you want to see the baby that That's fantastic. I'm really happy that you're showing such an interest in your grandchild's life. Yeah. But we won't be hosting you. You're more than welcome to come up when the baby's born. Please only make it an afternoon visit. Please supply dinner. That would be fantastic. Save me. And then everybody leave. It's not fair that she can have her parents there. And I don't care what anyone's got to say.
Starting point is 00:22:52 She's the one giving birth. They are both grandparents. parents of the same child and just because he is the father does not make his parents any less special than um than her parents and it really does yes don't get any wrong they're not in labour and delivery i know she just wants her mother i mean coming to the hospital is a bit much i agree that was like calm down banging on the door let us in sort of yeah like calm down like the baby's ill she's ill respect that do you know and as a mother her yes respect that but then again there should be understanding but then again you know she is in hospital they would have been allowed to visit it's not like
Starting point is 00:23:38 she was in the NICU and it might have even been easier there right rather than in your own home in your right and then you have to leave then oh look you have to leave go home now like actually go home and then please come back on this day press a buzzer and now yeah oh really sorry you need to leave Come on this date for a long weekend and then do fuck off. Like, these are the boundaries people should be sitting. I have no problem with boundaries. What I do have a problem with is your parents being more special than his parents
Starting point is 00:24:09 because they're just simply not. No, I agree. Genetically, they both have the same reside in the child. So, you know, and then one... As I get him to phone his mum say, is she coming? Right. I've been home for like two days. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:24:26 where's your mother and then one day your child's not going to be that close and then you're going to be asking yourself why or the child's going to be thinking and it's all down to you yeah you know your children make their own decisions on who their favourite grandparents are it really is as simple as that so happens my children preferred my mother over everybody that wasn't something i implemented on them that was simply the result of everybody else's behaviour not mine Um, no, I'm similar. Yeah. I've definitely preferred going to my mum's parents over my dad's. Yeah. But I enjoyed going to my dad's because of my granddad. Yeah, they're different reasons, aren't they? Yeah, completely different reasons. Yeah. Why you prefer one to the other. Granddad was, like, a great guy to be around, whereas Nan was not so much. My, um... But my mum's parents were, you know, they had a whole cubby hole full of kids stuff, you know. Yeah. their home was for my my dad's parents were boring but wonderful wonderful grandparents and my mum's
Starting point is 00:25:38 mum and dad were fun great to be around and we me Lisa and Chris absolutely love going there doesn't mean there any less than my other grandparents it just that it was just boring that's that's all do you know I mean like you say there wasn't a lot for us to do but with grandma and grander Chamblin there was so much to do plus we had auntie and uncle Bruce and we were always doing something do you know I mean I always had cousins that my mom's parents yeah that would be there at same time we didn't have the cousins there we had to like but my dad's um nieces and nephews were obviously older roughly around their age so but you are doing something right now that is it's quite me yeah massively me
Starting point is 00:26:25 And that's where I come from. I just find it quite mean. But, I mean, I'll give you the top comment. It just pisses me off. I would have sent them packing. You are not welcome to visit the baby. You knew the rules before you made your 10-hour journey. It's not our fault.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's not our fault. You came all the way for nothing. I hope my... They did not come for nothing, though, did they? They came for your child. To see your child, their grandchild. I mean, I don't know what's going to happen because if either of the boys' partners hate me, they hate me,
Starting point is 00:27:02 but I hope that the boys never disregard me in such big life things because I've done nothing, but do you know what I mean? But maybe that's why I do come from this way. But I don't know, I never, like I had Alfie and my mum and dad, they ended up waiting because obviously it ended up in emergency surgery but there was nothing that we had no rules for Anne and Ken they could have come they didn't have to like Paul was on the phone with his mum
Starting point is 00:27:33 like there was nothing yeah there was no restrictions the only rule I had was like he was the only one that was going to bring room with me like nobody else and then Harry I remember them coming up for I don't remember them coming up to the hospital for Harry mom they came for Alfie but not for Harry. They were at my home, which I did ask that didn't happen. I was like, I don't want anybody when we get home, because obviously, you know, I was just getting out of hospital and who was there? But it was fine. No, it was fine. My first, because it was early morning, as soon as they were able to, mum and dad was there, Adam and Jen were there. Yeah. Um, I think I'm
Starting point is 00:28:20 Jamie turned back up. He turned back up. Then when I went home, no, hang on, I think Helen and Keeley might have even turned up, but I was getting ready to go. Or did they call me? I can't remember. I went round with Lucius.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It was a lot of us girls. But when I got home. I didn't come immediately, but I didn't come. Two days later. There were people waiting when I got home, which didn't bother me. No, no, because you don't mind. Oh, but I remember.
Starting point is 00:28:50 after Harry I just did want that, just that day, just to spend some type, because it was awfully that I was worried about. See, I was like, no, like, just come, like, just everything to be normal? Fucking people. I think I was one of the first people to see Aaron, you know. Tash is Aaron. Yeah. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I can't, I can't fully remember. So many years ago now, babe. Found records on child's... Sorry, records. Found recordings on child's camera with mother-in-law and sister-in-law slating me. Love that for you. To the child. I don't know, let's see.
Starting point is 00:29:31 They are basically completely un-in-heal-an-an-a-oh-fucking-an-hilated. I don't know what that says. Me and my character saying, I am such an empty person and my husband is only married. to me because of that and that, pointing to my two children who were in the room at the time. That and that. Love that. Elder's girl is nearly 10 and came home and told me months ago they were saying not nice things about me. But I told her not to worry, maybe she was mistaken. They were talking about someone else. Turns out, nope, it was me. Just to give context, this is 10 days after we had them
Starting point is 00:30:24 over for Christmas Day dinner. I came from a family of a lot of trauma to addict parents, but I have always tried to be the best mother I can be and always tried very hard with my in-laws as we live in quite close proximity, unfortunately. But my instinct turns out was always right. I had a miscarriage days after finding the recordings nearly seven weeks. Hospital said it most likely was an unviable pregnancy as I was early, but myself and my husband had been arguing over how to handle the situation and I wasn't sleeping, eating. Although I do have a very supportive loving husband, I understand he is stuck in a bad position. But if I'm honest, my self-worth is a complete rock bottom.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I keep replaying everything in my head. As there were pretty horrible things said over three to four recordings, even slating one of my children. I know I'm quite vulnerable, but all I can think of is confronting them. Any outside advice greatly appreciated. yeah download that put that on a DVD
Starting point is 00:31:50 and play that as a Christmas special for the whole family Facebook TikTok and everyone else to see in it
Starting point is 00:31:58 let's see who's embarrassed and vulnerable after that because I can guarantee it won't be you 100% it won't be even more so
Starting point is 00:32:05 because they've I'm more for that that's what I don't like but even then why if you want to say it do it somewhere private come on people like we're from the generation of before all this stuff
Starting point is 00:32:18 we know how to slag off people cut them out of the video at least before we play it to our audience yeah I don't like it she actually is completely valid her in-laws are disgusting disgusting
Starting point is 00:32:33 what bothers me more than anything it's not even the slagging her off because who really gives a fuck do you know what people think of you that's what's piss me off yeah because you think when children are young they're not taking it in
Starting point is 00:32:47 but they actually are. That piss me off is she's saying her fellow's like a supportive husband but he's in a rock and a hard place. No, there is hard evidence that his mom and sister have said this,
Starting point is 00:33:00 these disgusting things in front of his children about their mother, his wife. Yeah, yeah, I'll give you that, yeah. Go and support her and tell them they're both way out of line. Yeah, and if they step out of line one, like give them another child
Starting point is 00:33:14 to 100% family's family but if you step out of line again then this is what you're excluded from my children who you seem to not that and that yeah that and A and B won't have anything to do with you and leave all fucking C and D yeah that and that have moms also
Starting point is 00:33:30 I just can't believe they're slagging off the children or the mother in front of the children I don't like people to do that I tell you what like talking about that was something like because when I had Alfie I thought I'd go back to work we've had this conversation and then obviously having them changed all that for me but um one of my concerns when I had and I was still considering it like after I had Alfie was him being with Paul's mum
Starting point is 00:33:57 because obviously she had offered a couple of days a week him not because she was a bad parent or whatever but my fault was she's going to slag me off to my child all the time Really? She's just that sort. Yeah. She's just that way. That is just her way. And I thought, I'll have this.
Starting point is 00:34:17 He'd say, no. I'm like, oh, I suppose your mother would let you do it. And like just those little nitricky. It's venom. It's venom all the time. Like how she was with Paul, venom, venom, venom. And I thought, I used to think, there's no fucking weight on this earth, mate. You'll be looking after my child.
Starting point is 00:34:32 You can, you know, spend time with my child, but you're not, um, no. So there was a quite a few sort of messages saying, like, you know, it was out of order, da-da-da-da-da-da. But I come across this bit where it says, like, someone said, did your child record the convo to show you? So this is the first one that Opie actually replies to. But I think she's replied to a few of the ones prior.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So she's like, thank you for your advice. To give further context, we live right next door. We brought his grandfather's old house and refurnished it. But we were treated like it was given to us. my little girl is saying she did record on purpose and she was very clued in as there previously was an incident in our house which she heard after I asked the sister-in-law why my children had never been invited to her little boy's birthday I love this when they came here every year and celebrated with us for our two girls birthdays my husband's sister got quite aggressive and started screaming I asked her to leave very calmly if she was going to be shouting. She screamed very hurtful things about my father, who had recently passed away from addiction. My husband told her to leave. A few hours later,
Starting point is 00:35:55 she returned and apologised with mother-in-law saying, could we have a clean slate? We said, yes, we would all move on and be adults. My sister-in-law had been struggling with fertility and last couple of years of her second child, hold on, a couple of years for her second child, but mother-in-law even passed comment to me last year that she had become a very angry person. Looks like myself and husband are idiots because we believe them, hence having them over for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:36:28 There's so much emotion involved here, but I'm really trying to be considerate, that this is my husband's family and my girls love them. However, it is my detriment as I am lying awake at night, replaying and the recordings in my head when I should really be grieving. I have made an appointment with a therapist for tomorrow, so hopefully we'll be a bit cleared with it all in my head and might even set one up for me and my husband. I think, um, what, the daughter, she doesn't say how old she is, but what I'm 10. 10. So what I'm taking from it is you don't have to do anything because they're doing it themselves to a point where you say the girls love them, but they won't for long.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah. And they've been together 25 years. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they live next door as well. There is no easy sell up. I mean, me I'd sell up. But I just think, you're going to have to find a way to stop taking it to heart because it's not that deep. Then don't sound like very nice people. Let them. That's the saying. Let them. Like, if someone wants to leave, let them. If someone wants to treat you like a cunt, let them.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Just don't do the same. Right. My mother-in-law, father-in-law, stole money from me after my husband died. I see. my husband of 14 years died recently he had a heart attack at 40 and i woke up next to him and did CPR by the time i tried to get back to get him back it was too late we have a nine-year-old son who is the best kid ever and thinking about him running into the bedroom and seeing me doing chest compression completely wrecks me what well at the time my husband's father
Starting point is 00:38:33 was staying with us, father-in-law is a bad alcoholic and had burned all the bridges and was only supposed to come and stay with us to get treatment. Two weeks later, he is drinking and getting drunk and pooing his pants on our couch. This guy brought so much chaos to our lives, but I am such a wimp. I couldn't even say anything or know to my husband. That's a whole other post. My father-in-law, after my husband died, got worse and I was trying to be strong for my son. My father-in-law was taking money from me, but promised that he would pay it back. Is he trying to get out? But he took my last 20 pounds. He took my last 20 pounds of gas to go to the bank and just...
Starting point is 00:39:33 And just brought booze instead. I lost it. Imagine waiting to exhale and then you just scream. Get your shit out of my house kind of freak out. My son was at school anyways. I had him done for trespassing. Then he proceeded to wait in our driveway to try and break in. I called the police and he was sent to jail. Now I don't want to ever speak to him again. He scared my son. half to death by breaking in at 11.30 at night and he took money from us. Now to my mother-in-law, sigh. Basically, she raised donations for my son and I, but she kept all the money to herself. She saw, all this to herself and did with it as she saw fit, but wanted us to write thank you notes to each person who donated, it turns out that she collected money from my husband's friends at his funeral, saying that she would give it to me and I haven't seen any of it yet. I know I'm worried about money and my husband was the breadwinner, but my son and I will make it. I have no family myself and I feel bad depriving my son of his grandma, but
Starting point is 00:41:01 really for real grandpa am i the asshole wow yeah wow cashing in on their own son's death yes oh wow that's like that's a low isn't it the um the father you can get by a little bit more because it's an addiction they will do it's like a meth-fed they will do anything for the fix so i can slide that a little bit more than the mother in or imagine going around at the In-roll. Oh, give it to them. They're saying it. She needs money.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Have you got any money for her? She's saying. They deserve it. What the fuck she's been doing with the money? What the fuck? Getting her nails done? I mean, shit like that makes me cringe. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Oh my God. Top comment. Do you know what? She should say, yeah, okay. Give me the list of people who did it. And then she should send out a whole message to them about I understand you've done this I'd love to thank you
Starting point is 00:42:04 but I have no idea what she's talking about yeah she's just told me to send you a thank you note for nothing which is interesting you say this top comment I would start making everyone know
Starting point is 00:42:21 what your mother-in-law has done tell them all as loudly as possible hopefully it'll shame her into giving you what is rightfully belongs to you and your son. Your mother-in-law and father-in-law are absolutely fucking disgusting duo. It's quite shameful. She did reply.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I posted all the texts from her on my Facebook and my husband's Facebook. My friend wrote letters to every person who donated to her and told them what she had done. She's super into her church and stuff. so she is worried about her image LOLL and then everyone's like contact the police I mean it is fraud it's technically flawed but why she went round at a funeral
Starting point is 00:43:10 is the pike's thing I've ever heard in my entire life grieving mother yeah it's weird right I want to know what she's done with the money nails hair maybe she went on half a little baby well she deserved it after
Starting point is 00:43:29 Her son died. Her son died. People are wrong, mate. Wow. Yep. No shame. I've got one more, don't I? No shame.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yes, I've got one more. Right, go. Mother-in-law went through my belongings. Of course she did. This happened a few years ago, but I consider it to be just another reason to keep her at arm's length. Mother-in-law had enthusiastically offered to mind our doggy while we were at work as she was recovering from surgery and needed help getting outside to toilet, et cetera. The dog, not the mother-in-law.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah. They put her mother-in-law out to the time. In a kennel. Off you go, mum. We were only too happy that she offered to help us out in this way and give her clear instructions as to how to care for him. Well, she must have gotten bored and decided to let herself into our bedroom. despite the door being closed.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I didn't realise until the next day when I was getting ready for work and found all my underwear and jewellery in different locations within my dresser. Not that underwear drawl. She had a little, like proper rifle through them. Beaded knickers. Love that.
Starting point is 00:44:52 The tags cut off my underwear and my clothes rearranged. What? When I realized what had happened, I immediately felt sick and violated. I had a panic attack on my way to work. She must have expected me to contact her to say thank you, but when I didn't, she reacted out, she reached out to my partner and he had to tell her that I was extremely upset and felt violated.
Starting point is 00:45:25 She sent me a lengthy text messaging saying that she, should have considered my boundaries but that she was only trying to be helpful little cleaning fairy no apology but the start of a pattern of disrespectful and violating behaviour looking back i don't know why i was so surprised by her unhinged and selfish behaviour when i was post-partum peepie okay Okay. Okay. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:46:05 It's weird that she's done that. I'm going to grant her that. It's one thing to open someone's underwear drawing button and then reclose it. Have a good old shuffle about. And take out the labels. The only thing I'm considering here is maybe that behaviour was nice to her. Do you see what I'm saying? Do you know what I mean by that?
Starting point is 00:46:28 I mean, to me, that's violating and taking it too far. I leave my labels on until I wear it. I don't want my labels off because I might send it back. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. No, no, no, but that's what I'm saying. Like, for me, I cut out all my labels from my underwear. To be honest. As soon as I get them, cut it out.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Like, once I know they fit, everything comes out. But I'm wondering whether this mother-in-law, this would be considered a nice thing for someone to do for her. do you see what I mean I'm not sure she violated her privacy I'm not saying that I'm just saying in her mind
Starting point is 00:47:09 it's not that I'm talking about excuses it's one thing to take someone's washing out the washing machine hang it up for them or take their dryer washing and like fold it and put it on their bed or even hang some stuff up whatever but when things have been moved
Starting point is 00:47:25 like jewellery underwear Yeah. The labels are cutting out, that's too hard. Yeah, I mean it's like proper going through your underwear, isn't it? It is going through. Yeah. No, yeah, it's too, it was not. It wasn't helpful.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And then to ridicule her for it, which she was just trying to forget the whole matter. Right. Yes, don't waste our battery though. Fucking hell. My mother-in-law, outdated baby caring tactics, almost killed our newborn possible trigger warning. My husband and I have a newborn baby girl who came home after two weeks in the NICU. I got pregnant, we were working and living abroad and during that time his mother moved into the apartment.
Starting point is 00:48:16 He only asked her to lightly maintain with housekeeping while we were away. Excuse me. when we moved back home towards the end of my pregnancy so that we could be closer to family I thought she was going to move out because there really wasn't enough space for all of us in the apartment but she insisted that she needed to be there
Starting point is 00:48:40 to help with her granddaughter and since my husband never puts his foot down she stayed since bringing our daughter back home she's been crossing a lot of boundaries that I've hit my limit with. I spoke to my husband about this and he stated that his mum has more experience with babies than we do and that we should just trust to her. Excuse me. I was trying to but her methods are outdated. It was so hard that the last incident made me leave the house with my newborn baby. My mother-in-law, who has
Starting point is 00:49:20 since moved herself into the master bedroom, kept taking our daughter out of the basinette while we were sleeping to put her in the mother-in-law's bed. I would often wake up to hear my baby screaming, which would make me anxious, but when I went to look for her in the basinet, barsonet, she would never be there. She would be in mother-in-law's room. On top of that, the baby would be laying on her stomach asleep or buried in thousands of pillows. that she has on her bed. I told her that the paediatrician recommended against anything she was doing because of SIDS, but she scoffed and told me that both her babies slept the same way 20 years ago and that they were just fine. After the first few times, I was worried so I purchased an outlet sock
Starting point is 00:50:12 and it had monitor on it which monitors the baby's oxygen levels while she was. asleep so that no matter where she was in the house I would know if she was okay or not. One morning I woke up to an alert on my phone that told me that my baby's oxygen levels were dropping and fast. I ran to her basinette to get her but of course she wasn't there. When I tried to get into my mother-in-law's bedroom the door was locked. I knocked on the door and called it out to her to ask her if she... Sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Just like that. Yeah. I knocked on the door and called out to her to ask her if she had the baby. She didn't reply it first, so I began banging on the door loudly. After a while, my phone kept alert in me that the baby's oxygen levels kept dropping lower and lower. When she finally opened the door, I ran past her while she complained that I had woken her up with dramatics and noise so early in the morning. I initially couldn't find my baby in the bed amongst all the pillows and blankets. So I carefully began taking everything off the bed.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I finally found my baby nestled down deep under blankets. And when I picked her up, the huge gulp of air she took in her lungs made me break down in tears. I went back into my room where my husband was sleeping. And my mother-in-law followed me to wake my husband up. and complain about me not really wanting help with the baby. And for now on, if I come and take the baby from her too early, she would not help me with the baby anymore or for the rest of the day. I told her how she almost killed the baby
Starting point is 00:52:08 and why I had to come into the room in the first place. Then she rolled her eyes and left the room, accusing me of being dramatic and told my husband, I had post-partum mania. I told my husband, your mum almost killed our baby and he immediately began questioning the events that led up to this conclusion.
Starting point is 00:52:32 He said the outlet sock could be dysfunctional. Maybe my anxiety woke me up and made me believe that our daughter's oxygen levels were dropping. I packed my bags for myself and my baby and left to a relative's house. I thought my husband would be by my side but because his mother-in-law told him not to endure my tantrums he hasn't come what is going on he hasn't come up once it's been three weeks since i've left i don't even know
Starting point is 00:53:04 what to think or how to feel but i do feel betrayed and hurt he's been my best friend for over 12 years so this is a really new side of him that I never thought I'd see or have seen before any advice for a new wife and a new mum I need to have a drink wow okay so I can't believe he slipped through the banging I can I'm not saying I don't really believe it but like still I can't believe it yeah and the mother-in-law was just way out of line so how many times do you need to be told not to take a baby out of its crib and then to lock your door to keep it in there. It's outrageous. It is outrageous. I mean it's a lot of anxiety when you have a baby. If someone was coming to take my baby, I'd be outraged. If I heard my baby crying and they weren't
Starting point is 00:54:01 where I left them, outraged. The panic. So she's like waiting for her to fall asleep and then she's sneaking in and taking the baby. That's really disturbing to be. Why, I'm saying about having sex? It's weird. It's so weird. It's weird. I think the husband still calls his mum, mummy. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Right. Or mommy dearest. Mommy. Top coming. He needs the two card choice. He needs the two card choice. No, he doesn't. He calls a bit of.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Oh, yeah, he's probably still breastfeeding. Divorce lawyer or couples counts. And then with a dash of, mother-in-law leaving your home. He will never listen to you if she is around. The fact that he can't agree she shouldn't be coming and taking the baby from your room is very questionable. OPE does respond. I wish I could say that he's ignorant to baby safety sleep methods, but he's been to every workshop and paediatrician visit. He knows all the information I do, but he still lets his trust in his mum override all of that.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I know what I have to do, but it's really difficult for me to do it. I hate considering divorce because, like, everybody with a long history with their husband, I'm having a hard time coming to facts of what is happening, even though it's right in front of my face. Really sad. Yeah, I mean, I know that saying mother knows best. I don't agree with that. I feel like that only applies to your own child.
Starting point is 00:55:41 how I mother my children doesn't necessarily apply to your children No, of course, we are different mothers That only applies To you and your child So she is trying to mother somebody else's child Yeah Her mothering skills do not apply
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah, I mean If she was giving advice, that would be different Because you can take it or leave it But she's not giving advice She is taking control She has no right to take a baby without asking permission. Absolutely not. Time to go.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I don't know why she's still there. I find that very strange as well. She's going to live there forever. Like fuck off. Yeah, when's going to be the right time to say leave now? Because it'll be like, oh, but I've helped all this time and this is how you treat me. She's going to black now. I don't think she is leaving ever.
Starting point is 00:56:29 She's not leaving. She's not leaving. I think they will end up getting divorced. Excuse me, sorry. You're getting divorced, I reckon. hope you cut all those coughing bits out not nice on the ears where I cough I just feel like thirsty
Starting point is 00:56:46 I don't know those tablets I told you thirsty they make me so thirsty but yeah I feel like my mouth is always wet I feel like my mouth is always wet okay let's finish us off I exploded and yelled at my mother
Starting point is 00:57:08 very in-law. Good. I'm sure she did something really bad. So, we went to a family meal and I gave my three-year-old daughter permission to help it us in the kitchen, cracking eggs and cooking, cucking? Cucking. Cucking. Cutting vegetables with a montessory knife. I don't know. I'm assuming sharp. No, non-sharp. Oh, non-sharp. Because it's a three-year-old. I don't know. Really? Is that your mothering skills? Mine are alive, that's all I'm saying. My mother-in-law said to her, oh no, my precious baby is going to hurt herself.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Sharp. I ignored her. My mother-in-law got angry and raised her voice at me and stormed out. My husband was there. My mother-in-law came back in and started yelling again. My husband didn't say anything. So I defended myself. I exploded and yelled.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Can you tell me what's wrong with you? Talking to me like that. Don't you ever raise your voice at me in front of my daughter again? I am not your subordinate. I am your daughter-in-law. And you owe me an apology for this and for all the crappy comments since my daughter was born. Let her boss me around because she does. doesn't like the way I raise my children. She has insinuated that I'm not a good mother in front of everyone numerous times. She complains at my daughter spending too much time with me and yelled at me multiple times postpartum for not doing what she told me. She also constantly belittles me in front of my daughter and demands explanation.
Starting point is 00:59:03 nations for my decisions as a mother in front of my little one. My in-laws and everyone else all the time when I finally yelled, my mother-in-law's eyes opened wide, made a scared face and said, I did wrong just now, but you weren't up to the task. I left there. My husband didn't, my husband hadn't heard me heard hasn't heard me why don't that sound right go on hasn't heard me yell didn't it didn't hear me yell hadn't hadn't heard me yell has not heard me yell in 16 years oh okay yeah yeah I don't know why that was hard yeah we have been together since we were teenagers he says he's upset that I yelled at his mother but proud that she was so damn brave to expose her
Starting point is 01:00:06 like that I told him that he needs to start going to therapy to learn to defend himself against his mother because he admits to not being able to say anything to her because he was taught that you don't tell parents when they make mistakes and yes we both know that my husband has a problem, by the way. I found out that my mother-in-law, I told everyone that I am a beast, three years of passive-aggressive and direct nonsense. Apparently, she can yell at me, but I can't at her because it makes her feel that, yes, I feel absolutely bad for everything, for raising my voice because I never absolutely never do do it. I hate conflicts, they generate anxiety in me and I'm also very calm.
Starting point is 01:01:05 One of those people who are happy doing anything as long as it doesn't bother them. I feel terrible like I have failed as a person. I'm not going to take back what I said, but I don't like having yelled. having yelled. Maybe I should apologise for my reaction. No. Absolutely not. I don't think she should apologise and I don't think it's fair to be too hard on the husband because it feels to me like he's grown up in this, I want to say systemic but I don't know if that's the right word for it, abuse where he has, he's frightened. So maybe when he's around his mum he feels like a child, like mentally. and he finds it hard to have any conflict or confrontation with her
Starting point is 01:01:50 so I'm going to be a little bit easy on him and come from that point of view don't know why I'm not normally easy on them I reckon it's because he's gone I'm proud of you for doing that yeah which is making me think that he physically cannot you know we've spoken about this before where sometimes when you're in a situation for so long you're so beaten down that when you're then back in that situation
Starting point is 01:02:14 every time you're near that person you become somebody else and it's like you're weak it's not like who you are and that is making me think that about him so I'm going to be easy on him and say there's more
Starting point is 01:02:28 in that relationship and she thinks that she can treat everybody like that because her son maybe other children will bow down and go with it but this one is like no go fuck yourself and I'm with her yeah
Starting point is 01:02:41 maybe she's told everyone that she's a beast because actually she has gone. Imagine going round, slagging someone off who's giving you a grandchild, it's the bizarest thing to me. You know, even if you don't get along, you have to find peace somewhere simply for the children.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And the partner. It's not always easy when you don't get on with your in-laws wherever that is in your family, but you have to find some sort of common ground in order to coexist with each other, especially around holidays.
Starting point is 01:03:13 and if you are taking care of their children. Otherwise, this woman is never going to let you look after your grandchild because you're going to chat shit about their mum. It's crazy shit. And, you know, I'm with her. I agree. Yeah. I feel a bit proud of her as well.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. Top comment? Absolutely not. Don't you dare apologize for finally standing up for yourself. She's a grown-ass woman. She can sit with the consequences of her. actions. She's not nice to you. She's not nice to your husband and she, and you finally stood up for yourself. Give yourself some grace. You are showing your daughter that it is okay to defend yourself
Starting point is 01:03:56 even against grandma. That's a good thing. Hold your head up high. You didn't do anything wrong. Do not apologize. Mother-in-law definitely deserved it. Yeah. She sounds like a massive bitch. She will learn because her family won't be involved in her life. And then she be one of those bitches on Facebook going, my children won't see me and I don't know why. Yeah. They took my grandchild away from me. Literally. Right. Everyone was literally just like, don't apologize. Yeah, she shouldn't apologize.
Starting point is 01:04:26 But I understand what capital letters there. Yeah, she's saying that because she wants the piece, but sometimes the only way to get pieces to work through the hard shit. I mean, if she feels that strongly about apologising, I don't think she should. No. If she feels that she needs to make an apology, it should only be for raising her voice. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, but you know. Not for what she said. No. No. But for possibly raising her voice. You know, and sometimes you have to agree to disagree. But sometimes you can say what you need to say without shouting. But I feel like this case, she ain't going to be heard unless she raises her voice.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I feel like sometimes shouting is like, if you reach the end of your tether, then I'm all right with that as well. Yeah, like I'm fucking done. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking bitch. Right. Right. Mother-in-laws, I can pull your finger out. Yeah, and... Hang on. Oh. What, like, follow and subscribe?
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