Might Delete Later - Ep 1: Gina and Stevie

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

It’s MDL’s first episode! Gina loves social media, Stevie hates it, but they both find it interesting. So, each week they speak to people they love about their loves, hates and mistakes online. But! Before we start rummaging through guests’ timelines, Gina and Stevie examine their own social media feeds – and boy oh boy are there some regrets. They also play a game of Follow Unfollow Block which is FAR TOO CLOSE TO HOME.👉🏼Remember you can find all posts discussed on Instagram @mightdeletelaterpod and we're on twitter too @mightdeletepod. Follow Gina on Instagram @ginamartin and Twitter @ginamartinukFollow Stevie on Instagram @5tevieM and Twitter @5tevieMWant to help us make more episodes? Support Might Delete Later at https://supporter.acast.com/mightdeletelaterHosted by Gina Martin and Stevie Martin.Photo by Joe Magowan.Artwork by Zoe Harrison.Recorded by Ben Williams. Edited by Clarissa Maycock. Produced by Plosive Productions.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/mightdeletelater. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do you love Might Delete Later? I bloody hope you do. You can support our show by using the new ACAS supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there is no regular commitment. Just smash that link in the show description and support us now so we can keep making this podcast. Thank you. Hello, I'm Gina and I'm Stevie and welcome to Might Delete Later, the show where we scrutinise the social media feeds of people we like looking at their best, worst and first posts.

We're also sisters and we have very differing views on social media. So mainly I hate it. Yeah, and mainly I absolutely love it. We recorded this podcast mostly before lockdown. So on the plus side, most of the episodes like this one will sound like we're in a studio because we were. And on the negative side, I might say something like, imagine if there was a global pandemic.

I can't. Well, each episode features a guest we like. This first one, we thought we'd do the format with Just Oz so you can get to know Oz a bit better. Don't forget to subscribe if you like. it and followers on My Delete Later Pod, but mostly, enjoy. Enjoy! This recording is coming to you from working from the new co-working space from the Hoxton Group. And it's really cool. It's so cool. So to kick us off, we're going to do a feature,

which we're just going to be calling every week. What thing would you like to delete this week, unless I don't, unless someone else ask someone else, and then it'll be insert the relevant name. Gina, what would you like to delete this week? This week, I would like to delete unsolicited DM. So are we talking like reply guys or are we talking like... Oh no, I don't have any guys. Oh, wow. I have so many men. Do you?

No. Okay. So no, mine is just people. I get it. We're there for each other. I wrote an entire chapter of my book about sliding into DMs. Maybe that was a mistake. But the amount...

Was the chapter called please slide into my DMs? I mean, yeah, literally. It was like just... Oh my God. Yes, it is. It was literally like, just ask people for things. That's what activism is. And then I've spent the last few months to be like,

stop asking me for things. It's so annoying. It is, it's not annoying, but it's like if you, the sheer amount of people asking you for things. Yes. It's not, nothing exists in a vacuum. It's like when a guy comments like, sexy baby underneath a picture of me and my tortoise, it's not because of that. It's because of like all the other things that have led me to this moment.

All of the people hanging out of bands, all the millions of men that hang out of bands are jamming. Yeah. It's the compounding effect. Yes. And I'm just starting to get to the point now where I want to be like, hey, I'm going to set some boundaries. And maybe, like, my friend turned off tagged photos because she gets tagged in it, everyone else's photos. and they're not even of her, you know, because people tag you so that... So that you'll share it. I've heard a few of those.

No, no, no, so you'll share it. I'd just shared it. No, I didn't. Just a picture of someone on a bridge and you're like, I think I'll share it. I think I'll share it. No, but they normally do it because then, like, it turns up to your tagged photos and you have a big following, so therefore they can catch them with your following. Oh, so they think that people, they think that people go through your tagged photos.

Looking for cool people on bridges. I've never looked at anyone else's tagged photos. There again, this is why it doesn't work. Guys don't do it. So I'm trying to do this new thing where I kind of screen them and I have to be really, really like, okay, that's a really, you've sold that to me and you've come up to me with a really good idea, you made it really easy for me, it's a quick message, I fully get it, I'm on board and I'll have to pick like one out of ten now, whereas I've spent the last

two years replying to every single DM, I've got on every platform. I've watched you and it's painful because it's just, there's just so much and one person cannot be all of the jobs that you've taken on, like people, if you think about companies, they have like a PR department, they have a marketing department, they have like an HR department, they have all these things for the sole purpose that one person. and can't do it all. Exactly. And now you are having to do all of those departments.

Yeah. And I find that really hard. So that's what I would delete. I would delete, not unsolicited DMs. I would delete badly written unsolicited DMs. Not like badly written as in spell it spelling. I can't spell so that's fine. I just mean like badly sold in DMs.

Sold in. Someone went to advertising. Sell it me bitch. Pitch it. Okay, so I'm going to delete deleting tweets. What? Oh my God. I did that like seven times yesterday.

So I used to be quite free and easy with my tweets Quite fun Quite frivolous Did you? It wasn't fun for other people But I was having like a nice time I think it was fun for other people What I'm saying is I don't think I've ever seen you send a tweet

And just be like fuck it, just go with it Do you know what I mean? You don't say that But in my head I've been like No one does As we'll see later when we look at my first tweets They're quite embarrassing And it's also I've not put

I don't think I've put as much thought into it as I now put into. So now I'm so, at the last sort of year, I've become so embarrassed when a tweet, like, doesn't get a hundred likes. That's a hundred. Right. A hundred pebs.

A hundred pebs. What? A hundred percent engaged. I just said it after you. It was like, don't know what you talking about. So, yeah, and I feel really, like, embarrassed and like, oh, everyone will look and be like,

well, she's, no one, no one likes her. Like it's a rejection, you mean. And that's, I mean, I don't even want to want to pack that, because it's just too much going on there. But now I've stopped. I did one the other day that got like two. It blew the fucking roof off, didn't it? Jack from Twitter was like fucking hell.

Well, it went viral. Oh no, I wasn't talking about that one. Oh, right. I was going to bring that out later, but thank you for noticing. I once went viral and we're going to talk about it later. And by viral, it was like low end viral as well. But I know, I did a tweet that got like 16, like the next one after my like viral tweet about bread. I did one about six.

I got 16 likes. I was like, I don't think I've ever been more ashamed. because now I've got all these new followers for genuinely I've got my six followers because of going viral who then have all left since and I've not really mad and I'm trying to just be like

no this is stupid like unless it's unless I'm deleting a tweet because I'm like oh actually I don't believe that anymore or I look and I look back and I'm like good lord that's not good good Lord good Lord that is not good or I'm deleting it because I just don't think

it's very helpful for people but if I'm deleting it because I'm like I don't think it's funny enough No, just going to live your life. Totally agree. You've got to... If you get into that, then it just doesn't stop. It doesn't stop.

But then where does it go to? Then you get so anxious about everything you send. Yeah. What's stressed? What's stressed about tweets? And it's meant to be fun. And you know what's ironic that, you know, the whole podcast is called Mite Delete Later and you're saying let's not. Look, but like, I promise won't.

But like you might and that's fine. Love it. Nguenced. Nune. Look, that's what we want to kick off a series with just to show how confused. the central premises. Of social media, not the podcast. Of social media and also the podcast.

We've got our first posts, our worst posts that we really regret, and then a post that we're really proud of. And we normally are going to speak to guests about this and we've had some, not that we've already recorded some episodes, but some excellent chats about it. We're now going to do each others.

Gina, you're more of an Instagram person. I am, I'm a visual artist. And I like Instagram. but like no one liked any of my Instagram so I'm more of a Twitter person because of that Bred viral tweet. So I'm going to do your first Instagram post. Now you can go to at Mike Delete Later Pod to see Gina's first

Instagram post so we're going to put like the old ones, the ones that you're proud of next the ones that you regret, Mabes so you can kind of almost compare as well, compare a contrast. So your first one Gina yes you joined in 2012 I think that's quite late is it? I don't know because I can't

remember how old you are on what year it is. Okay, that's quite late. No, because Instagram didn't start until 2000, well, really get, or even really kick off until it doesn't 10. Yes, I am. This is true. Yeah, and also, you know, you're an old woman now. But what I found interesting about this, so it's a, so Gina is on, it's just at Gina Martin.

And it's got six likes. It's you, and today after your birthday. It's you and a friend, Jennifer Crothers, I believe. I think you're eating a smoothie. She's having a coffee. you're both sort of like looking at the camera and then there's, you've put no caption I've got a helmet of hair

Yeah, you've got a very big emo fringe I haven't got a fringe TV That's like my entire, it's like almost as if someone is It's like you know Lego hair When someone like sticks it on and they cut around your face Yeah, you know like you've bought a fringe off eBay Yeah, you do clip on And then you've bought four more

And then you're wearing all of them That's what you look like It's very cute And also then of course the selfie Is the second one Yeah Which you have captioned So about four posts in

you then think, oh, I should probably label this. Last day at work, sad yet, well, proud and happy. Wasn't a job that. What was your job? That was me, I was an unpaid intern. Last day at work in an ad agency in London, don't be, it's all right, don't be like jealous. That's literally what I was doing.

Yeah, of course. I was being like just me, 21, working now, day. I didn't see it like, it's pretty sick. But you actually were doing an unpaid internet. But I was unpaid. Isn't that what Instagram is? I was actually homeless at this point. So you were a homeless woman.

Right, yeah, you were. You had nowhere to live in. until that man gave you that room and you and Jen stayed in a mattress. We didn't say in a mattress. You know, but you had one, you had one camp bed between you. Do you think your presentation of yourself has changed since... Oh my God, massively. But has it?

Because do we all not say last day at work when it's an unpaid internship? Do we all not? Yeah, this is true. So the actual content I'm putting out, so obviously here I had no idea about social media because, you know, there's a picture of me and Jen sitting in the corner of a room with no caption. Like that is going to get engagement.

You can't really see your face either. Like he's so far away. No one knows who we are, what our story is, why we're doing what we're doing. Like no one cares. Why are you going to care about that picture? That's just for me. At this point. And fans of tables.

Yeah, of course. And Lego hair. So this was just me and Jet. This was me basically using this as like a, like, memories bank. And then it became, as I went into advertising, I realized, God, you can really use this to help with your career. So, but I still probably am that person who is like, you know, wants to a person. here in some way like we all do like what you're doing is valuable like yeah i'm at an internship but

i'm saying last day it works i really want to show that like a 21 look i'm not even finished my degree and i've got a job i haven't i'm an intern i'm not being paid and i'm homeless um which is quite a stark contrast but now i probably do similar things where i where i will try and like make something seem better because it makes me feel better about what i'm doing but you also balance it quite a lot so you will have things where you say like look it's not all what you think like yeah it depends on the day yeah yeah it depends on the day yeah And I think that's the difference, whereas then I would have always kind of packaged it as something that I was doing that was interesting. Now, if I'm doing something that's interesting, I'll be like, look, I'm doing something. It's interesting. I'm feeling really good today. And then the next day I'm doing like, I'm really knackered and I've got no time and I'm pissed off. Like, I'll put that up.

Yes. Yeah. I don't filter as much anymore. Yeah, that is really good. Really great. So Stevie is a Twitter person. I'm on Instagram. I do like you. No, you are on Instagram and she's got a great Instagram and she's dead funny, but she prefers to use Twitter. I feel like you've always used Twitter. You really... I was born using Twitter. And you started in 2009. I did, but yeah, I mean, yes, I did. I started, which was, I think, kind of when Twitter was like just Catlin Moran

and that was it. Yeah. And Rob Delaney. Yes. And they were the only two people. And me, apparently, an early adopter. Making absolute clangers of tweets. For instance, like, the first one we have,

which is... It's a reply to somebody. Oh, nose piercings make people look a little bit more lesbian than previously. Right. Very problematic. Very problematic. Very problematic.

Tell me why. Let's break it down. You know why? Because, right, in 2009... Also, I've got two. Yeah, I know. And also, then I got one. Yeah.

Also, I did that tweet because I got a nose piercing. And I thought it was cool. I would never tweet that now because I don't... That thought doesn't enter into my head. Yeah. In terms of characterising things. Maybe we shouldn't talk about this. No, I think it's really good to talk about it. But like, yeah.

This podcast is about social media looking back at people's social media. and what they have put out of content on the internet, there is not one part of me that I would like to see anyone make someone feel bad for things that they used to think that they now have learned from and being honest about their mistakes because we cannot be giving people value based on how sanitised they are online. There are going to be things I've said that you will hear that

are I would never say now because I was an idiot and I was an educated back then. And there are going to be things that CV said and probably other guests. And that is why this podcast I think is valuable because we get to go look at what you've learned. Yeah, not censored. And I think, but what I would say is that I used to think, like, being, like, as a woman, looking a little bit gay, it was like really cool.

But what I meant was, androgynous, but I didn't know what the word was. Yeah, you were like, I guess like a gay woman, right? And so. You didn't have the language. Yeah, I didn't have. Because at that point, all the culture I'm consuming at that point was so much less nuanced than it is now. And it's not even like, I'm like, so I wouldn't even think, I wouldn't even think that anymore, but I would think it.

Like, I don't even. You just don't even think in that. No. You know, it's so great. That's why it's so great now. And also that's why it is important to look back and go, oh, look, how much it's changed. Yeah.

Even though there's still so long to go, and people are still so unexcated. And tweets like that now still happen constantly. And they're not helpful now. But they rightly get called out because of the progression. So please go back. And if anything, like, just troll me. I think that's actually really interesting.

like that you're saying that in that tweet you're saying that that's cool you're talking about like and like playing with your femininity a bit but the only way you know how to communicate that because of the culture at the time and the language is a homophobic yeah it's a bit lesbian like great okay well that means but on a lighter point um i also said star trek is gash so you did yeah you did next say having not uh i do think I've actually seen it. You put, but you also tagged a boy.

You put Star Trek is gash at Rick Galbraith. Who was my friend back then, who also, thanks Rick, didn't reply or like it. Oh, no. Was he into Star Trek? I don't know, I guess so. It's like you trying to be like how like the things you like. Again, that was me as well, trying to look like one of those like geeky gals. It's like into gaming.

Like manic pixie dream girl. Like, yeah, like I've got opinions on Star Trek because I've watched it. I haven't. You don't do that anymore? Oh, I absolutely 100% do. I do. I think everybody presents themselves in a way that makes them... You tweet about bread and it goes viral. That is true.

And do you have an Instagram post or a post that you're the most proud of? I do. So the reason I'm proud of this is because I love Instagram. I love the community on there. I get... I literally get... If I asked any of my followers to do anything, they'd do it. Like, the people, but as in good things...

Set fired! your how. The good thing. It's 90% a great place to be and I love it. But I've never like been honest about the things I found difficult about it. And we just spoke about like the amount of DMs I get asking for stuff. And I feel like there is so much pressure on me because I talk about things to talk about everything. So I posted this thing recently that I'm really proud of because actually I found it really, really hard to put down boundaries, especially when I put them down to 70,000 people at one time.

Yeah. So I said, I've got you. You know I do. I wake up every morning and get to work because I'm here to fight for all of us, but at the end of the day, I cannot and will not be at the beck and call of 75,000 people 24 hours a day. I'm not an editorial platform. The difficulty with becoming a prominent voice for something means everyone expects you to become a voice for everything they care about.

Couple this with how accessible I am, and you have a recipe to put me in therapy. I understand that when you care about something, it feels like the most important thing in the world. I truly get that. But the people we follow that use their platforms for good are still someone's daughter, someone's friend, their own person, just one person. and they can't speak on every newsworthy thing that happens every day. Neither should they be expected to, neither are my best place to. Many people speak on many issues far better than me.

Diversify your feed instead of relying on a handful of people speak on everything. From now on, I won't be responding to DMs asking me to repost, post, specifically talk about certain issues or do more, unless, A, I have the time, and B, it feels deeply important and in my remit. Social media is part of my job, one that has upwards of eight separate roles in it, one that has made me unable to take time off since 2017. I'm doing the work on the ground every day and I love my job, but this is only a fraction of it. I hope you understand this boundary I'm setting. It allows me to do the work offline that makes a difference more and it allows me to enjoy my life as Gina,

not Gina Martin the activist. Love you all loads. So you've got into captions then. Yeah, so I've got... God damn. From the first post where I was, there was no caption, now I'm like... It's visual.

It's written a book. It's good, though. It's micro-blogging, isn't it? Oh my God, of course it is. That's what it is. I'm always like, you know, the dots when, when, brilliant. So you know when you're like scrolling through Instagram and you see like the first bit the caption and there's dots and you have to like press more and then it goes like,

oh, there's more. I'm always like, fit the caption before the dots. So my all my captions are like gone out. Literally. Or like when like, okay, genuinely, I'm just going to get, I'm going to get this. I'm not joking. I'm going to get this up. Here we go.

Perfect. Portrait of a woman enjoying a games cafe falling in love with the dog and then bothering it. Because I was like, well, then that's, that'll fit in. before the dots happen. Do you know what? You're not wrong though because whenever... Everyone likes reading your... I mean, I'm sure everyone doesn't,

but all your followers love reading your captions. I may open it out to read it. I've worked with the biggest digital talent management company in the world. And everyone will tell you, even Instagram, you go to quarterly conventions with them where they tell you what the best way to how to write, what to act, when to post, how often. Everyone will tell you those rules.

The only rule is consistency. Yeah. I have posted long captions for years because I love writing and I love, it's advertising. Like I used to do long copy ads with real big visuals and advertising. It's what I've always done. But consistency is the most important thing. It doesn't matter whether you write those or you write.

Gone out. Like you do. Look, it's a dog. Like, your shit's really funny. Do you know what I mean? It's about just being consistent with what you post. But that post I'm really proud of because... You needed to set some boundaries and you haven't done it for a long time.

I've been wanting you to do a post like that for about a year. Yeah. Okay, so the next post is one that you want. are proud of that is a tweet that you're proud of. Okay, well, it's a tweet I did about bread and it's the tweet about bread. So I have, I spend lots of my energy being like, I don't know if this is funny enough to tweet. Well, people care. And I did some good tweets where I've been like, and then I shouted at people being like, why, why is this not relatable? Because like some things I say, I've totally relatable. Like, whenever I leave my house, I feel, I do it in the way that's like,

I'm like an assassin. Like, I've got, I've got to leave. Yeah, I've got a girl. I've got one more job. That's what I do. And then I'm like in the lift being like, and I tweet that like, no one liked it. And then what's wrong with everybody? Why is no one else an assassin? Yeah, essentially. And then I didn't even think about this one. And I tweeted, the problem with buying a lovely loaf of bread is you then need to eat it in three days. Toast for breakfast, sandwiches for lunch, toast for dinner. Bread is a snack. Bread and salad. Bread as a hat. Make a bread friend called bread and spend the night watching bread together. Look, it's good fun. Like 11,000 people liked it. And about, like, I got like a million messages from people being like,

do you know if you put bread in the freezer? Oh my God. And then I got a DM from a guy being like, see you like bread then, like genuinely. Oh my God. So people don't have sex with me over the tweet. A man tried to have, well, two men tried to have sex with me because I said that I made a bread friend called bread. I actually can't deal with people.

So, but isn't it interesting because you're, I think a lot of us do this that, and especially in comedy, I can imagine it's like this, that you put that stuff out on Twitter as such like a comment, comma, comma, come a, come a, come a, come a camea, camea, camea, yeah. It's such a comedians. Delete my tweet. It's such a comedian's platform.

Yes. And so you'll think a lot about what you put out as if they're jokes, as if you're doing stand-up, as if you're doing a show. I've just booked a ticket to your Soho Theatre show based on this one tweet. I was like, oh no, it does make a difference. So it's actually, yeah, since I've started to be a comedian that I've struggled with Twitter more because I've been like, oh, everything has to be funny. Yeah.

And like the truth is is there's too many other forces in terms of what's happening culturally, when did you treat? What time? Who are your audience? Where did the last come from? Who liked it?

You can't control any of that. So you really have to, we all have to try and get to space, I guess, where you just like, puts about that you find funny. If it doesn't do well, it's still going to, like, that human nature makes you go, okay.

So yes, the answer is I will can. Yeah, so makes you go, why does no one like me? But look, look, do a tweet about bread that you think is like, you know, lol, okay. Pretty lame. And at 11,000 people are lame.

And then I'm like, oh, people are lame. No, but that is a funny tweet. It is. It's fine. You should be proud of that. So do you have any posts on Instagram that you regret? Yes. There's a bunch.

I think probably the first third of my Instagram I regret. But this one I specifically regret. I don't know why I don't like it so much, but you'll know why when I explain it to you. So it was in 2017 in January. I'm on a tennis court, having fun time. The picture isn't really posed. I'm just playing tennis. And I was messaged by a brand, which are one of those,

like take a drink and you'll be skinny. Yes. And it's kind of like a really disordered kind of drinks brand that are awful for people. And the product doesn't work. And they've got millions of followers. One of those people. Yeah, all the product works because it makes you shit yourself. Exactly.

So I got messaged by them and I said to them in this message back, like, I would never work with you. Like, what you're doing is really bad. And like, please don't ever message me again. And they did message me three or four times over a series of months and I got really pissed off. So I posted this post which basically said I was messaged by this brand. They're really awful. They don't want me to be a brand ambassador. like this one make you lose way

you don't need to lose weight, et cetera, et cetera. That to me feels good. So this is my thing. Like the general premise of the post is good because it's true. Yeah. But the way I did it was so like, I would never work with these guys because I've got integrity and you guys shouldn't lose weight because you're amazing.

And it just felt like a bit performative. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Especially because like, I mean, I don't know. I haven't read the caption, but did you do like a sort of like, is it you being like, we should all celebrate our flaws? Because that's... Yeah, and I'm a size fucking 8 to 10.

Well, that's the thing I was going to say. It's that movement is now a lot more nuanced. But when it first happened, just like with all kind of movements, the body positivity movement started off being like, you must love yourself. And it was like, cool, but it's just like a very thin woman

showing me a picture of one bit of cellulite. Like, yeah, I love you as well. Yeah. So does society. And not saying that you shouldn't be sad because of course, you know, I'm thin and I have days where I feel like I can't put clothes on and go outside. and that's society

and that doesn't diminish my experience by saying it doesn't mean I shouldn't feel like that but doesn't mean you should be the voice for it. I'm not the voice of it yeah exactly and this was my thing where I think I was like I think I was putting a toe into that movement by being like hey guys

I'm just me these guys said do this I said no because I love your body and it's like if you thought about it for longer than two minutes you don't need to post that like let the people who do this work well post it and then I think to myself, oh shit, was I posting that? Because I thought, people are going to think you're a really good person if you do this.

Yeah. And since then, like I talk about a lot of issues, but that I'm qualified to talking that I know about now. And I don't do them performatively. And so I could tell the difference that this was, I think. That's why social media I found can be quite difficult is because I actually feel that I do more things performatively than I think I do. They realize, yeah.

And then you actually, if push came to shove and you had to explain why you did a particular tweet or a post, it is to be like, I looked nice and I want other people to see how nice I look or something. And you're like, okay, but that might make people feel bad. And you're like, yeah. But then on the other side, like, that's great. That's lovely for me. If it's done in a way that feels good and like, there's nothing wrong with being proud of how you look.

But I guess like it's just really about intention and honesty. And if you're actually doing it because you're like, oh, I feel good. And you're like, I feel great. So take a picture or you're doing this, which is like, don't worry about your flowers, bitches, ma'am. And you're trying to like tag on to something that just isn't yours. I feel like. Yes.

I suppose what I meant as well is that like sometimes you can you can post a photo and you know be real but actually you're not being real you're being like an acceptable form of real because I don't want to show people I've actually done like Instagram posts where I'm doing like the worst face in the world as a joke and then been like yeah that's too bad I'll have to put that one of censored like one I have like you could see like a nose hair I was like oh okay I could be like I'm like a cute girl is like just doing like a crazy face but kind of like a hairy nostril Like snodded. Yeah, it's like a bogey and hair. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no. So I've, you know, if I had face tune, which I don't, because I know that I'd go down a horrible thing, I would have, I would have, I would have, I would have, I would have?

Keep the bogey and hair is the takeaway from this. I've gone so, let's feel. I have a word of saying is that I still am performative, even when I'm pretending that I'm not. Yes, yes, I see what you mean. So performative can look really obvious, or it can just be you being like, I've got boogie.

smear up my nose in that horrible photo, that joke horrible photo. And I think it's up to us to be like, this is why I love this podcast because you can just like be honest and be like, yeah, that was. Whereas like how, you would have never known than it was

unless we talked about it. Yeah, that's true. I always, I remember looking at that and being like, oh wow, that's really cool and great. Good, good on Gina. But now I'm like, what a prick. Okay, so can you tell me the tweet that you regret?

I can. So I did a tweet at Christmas about, um, about, hating Santa. About hating Santa. about hating Santa and yeah um no I did I did I did tweet basically about how if like basically I got sent all these emails about vegan superfood and like tea advent calendars and it like drove me insane and so I did a tweet that said um if you are buying vegan

superfood like a supplement or like tea calendars you have no joy in your heart no judgment oh yeah remember that yeah which is clearly there is judgment but it's me being like Also, it's a joke. Well, it is a joke, but also, I mean, it's true. They annoy you. I felt it in my heart. And regardless of whether it was a joke or not, compelling. And normally, normally I'm all right with catching things like, I don't know, like, is it called sizes?

Like, stuff that is like, look, check your privilege, thin girl. Yeah. And I totally didn't with this. Maybe because it was Christmas. And I was just like, yay, everyone deserves chocolate, which is what I replied to the girl who was like, look, some people are actually. do have to get those out of van candors because they have to lose weight and they and you know have to lose weight like as in medically medically and um yeah they need to lose weight for them yeah all right why i just think that's a really weird response to be like some people need vegan candors because they

need to lose weight so they're like food or tea candles well okay this is perfect because you're responding in the same way that i did which was like what and then i was like okay and then she said i'm i'm i don't know what needs to lose weight as christmas eat what you want unless you medically can't eat chocolate That's what I said, but then she said, I'm, I have to do weight, weight watches, or I'm doing weight watches. I hate weight watches. Because it's the only thing that works for me. And an advent calendar is one, I think it's like a sin or something that they're called, which I hate anyway. Oh my God, that is so fatphobic and so bad for your head.

No, I know. But all I'm saying is, is that this is a battle that I do not know about. And so if I was much larger and had been told like by, you know, somebody like, oh, some of your health problems are being caused by that. I don't know. if they are or not, but if I'm told that, I'm like, okay, or I just wanted to lose a bit of weight, or I wanted to be healthier and maybe not eat so much chocolate because maybe I'm eating a lot of chocolate and I'm worried about my sugar intake, then maybe, yeah, maybe like that little bit of chocolate every morning would be like, I'll just won't do that. I'll have an avoncounter

for the fun. Can I just go out on a limit as a social justice warrior who is given like every day and told I'm for, I'm care about things too much to say that that tweet is fine? You're a vegan. You're a fucking vegan. I'm vegan. You, that's what I just said. Are you talking to like, the listeners? Look, everyone listening? You're vegan. Sorry. Sorry, I'm actually too overwhelmed.

She's so sweet. She's like, actually, I can feel the heat coming off of because of this tweet. So basically, like, you're vegan. There's loads of things you can't eat. That's your experience. You're just saying, I don't think soup is vegan. I've been kind of is very fun. And then someone's coming back and being like, hey, listen, I have to eat them.

It's like, that's fine. Like, you, like, okay, this tweet is for every person in the whole world. And also critically, like, when you do a tweet and you say, I don't like this thing, it doesn't mean that you're like personally attacking the one person who's at Weight Watchers, who doesn't want to eat chocolate. I think I'd say you have no joy in your heart. To her? No, as in the tweets, if you buy these vegans, you have the Ziputans, tea calendars,

you've got no joy in your heart. Do you know what? But then I did say no judgment as a joke. So it's very clearly a joke. So we're going to now play follow and follow block. Okay. Okay. So this is a little few.

featurette, featurest, where we ask the guest, so now each other, to pick three people, they would, no, we give a guest three people that we believe, you know, quite close them in whatever way. And we get them to follow, unfollow, or block. Which one would they do to each? Look, it's a lot simpler that I'm making it sound, and I just wish you to all just deal with it. Look, everyone just calmed down here. It's so simple. It couldn't have been more simple. That tweet is really riled. You're up.

It's frantic energy. I'm like frantic. Okay, let's just take it down. Okay. So basically it is, it's shag-marry-kill, essentially. But what I'm going to do it with,

follow-and-fo-and-flock is basically shag-marry-kill. But I'm going to posit that it's mom, dad and me. So would you shag-marry-kill, mom-dad or me? No, I'm not. I'm not. Playing that. Okay, follow-and-fo-block, shag-mri-ke.

Sorry, follow and follow block. Would I follow and follow block, mom, dad, you? Yeah. I would follow... You. Okay. So you're going to have to unfollow and block between mum and dad. Two of the people that gave me life.

Best of luck. You make you laugh so much. Yeah. And on a social media side, like, I couldn't not follow you, but also as a person, like, you're just my everyday life. I'd be really offended. You're my best friend. So I'd follow you. You're your best friend.

Yeah. We have best friend nexters. She doesn't have her on. Fucking, I would block you. I would follow you. I would unfollow Mom. Why?

Mom's the sweetest kindest heart. She doesn't post as much. That's true. She doesn't post... Yeah, she's more of it. Actually, she's sort of like she's like a cheerleader, like a hype woman.

She's the best hype woman. But she's also doesn't post anything. So if you didn't know we were related, she'd be like a troll. Yeah. You'd be like, well, I don't know you be. You're always in my inbox. But it's so nice.

Yeah, she's so engaged. I would unfollow her. because I couldn't follow mum, but then I would still, we'd still be DMing each other all the time. We'd still, do you know what I mean? Like, we'd still have that interaction so that'd be fine. Blocking Dad.

Yeah. Why? Why? Yeah, yeah. Because I love drums, but not as much as you. Our dad's a drummer and all he posts about is drumming. That's good though. No, no, that's great, but I'd rather see where, like, dad's at.

Sure, sure, sure. I'd follow you, dad. But shut up, you bitch. You've always been his favourite. I know. But I would rather block dad on, if I have to block someone, I would rather block dad. and then like, you know when we go home and he's come off tour

and we sit and look through his photos and we talk about it anyway. That's more fun, yeah. I prefer to do that with dad than like see all the stadiums he's in. Like I'd rather, I could just, we could go home and he could just fucking show me that, do you know what I mean?

Yeah, that's nice. So I need mum as my hiked woman so I, because she makes me feel like loved on social media every single day. I would follow you because I could not deal, I just need your content in my life and I blocked dad because drums are cool but not that cool. Sorry, dad, I love you so much.

Okay, shall I do the same? Yeah. Okay, block you. What the fuck? No, actually, no, no, no, let me just, hang on. Emotion taking away. Oh, my God, yeah. What I post is very heavy and you don't always need to see it.

Oh my God, okay, so I was joking. Oh, but, okay, um, oh, actually. Hang on, hang on, sorry, no, no, no. I was joking. You've told me that you've muted me. I've muted cheating. Yes, yes, yes. I muted everyone.

Yeah, I muted every single person. Um, the only things now on my Instagram are memes, um, a hashtag that I follow called duck life. Yeah. with ducks with like little bobbly heads that look like aristocratic gentleman um tortoises so that's been quite quiet because obviously they've all been hibernating but now they're coming back um and uh and then animals doing things dogs doing things like dog friends dogs dogs dogs and memes yeah um but if i had so it's honest it doesn't really matter who i block follow and unfollow um i wouldn't block you because um

because i didn't block you that's the only really block me yeah um we wish i could about can't now and no I would unfollow you because I continue to do what I do already which is I don't see anything on my timeline I go to your page when I want to like see what you're up to see what you're doing. But it's a lot to be bashed if you're not ready for it, I think. Can be because I think on the one hand

I'm very aware that it's a privilege to be like I actually don't want to look at any of this and on the other hand I'm like I'm way more anxious than the average person and I can see a lot of stuff and actually it's unhelpful for me and the world and your cause for me. to be consistently looking at your hot content

because I will just be like... Just like in a mental health way, it's just too much, yeah. But I do like this. I follow lots of like quite challenging Instagram users of all different types of like trans rights, black rights, like, is that... I mean, black rights isn't the phrase, but you know.

And like lots of people that... Just so I can like learn, but I do it when I'm feeling like... But you opt in. I opt in. That's a good way to do it. And opt out. Because I'm very privileged.

Like that. with it. So I would, that's why I would unfollow you. Okay, fair enough. Now, I would, oh no, so this means,

no, because I can't follow mom because she doesn't post. I'm blocking mom! Okay, fine, I'm blocking mom. Mom, I'm so sorry because actually I talk to mom on the phone,

we like WhatsApp and like, we have like the family, WhatsApp group and I was a WhatsApp or whatever. So look, I feel like, I don't want to block because she's like a massive fan of, like,

my other podcast. I can't believe you're blocking her after she used to go on walks when you're on stage just to make... She was in the north of England and she'd go on walks while Stevie was on stage doing her show because she felt like if she was walking, Stevie's show would be okay. And then she would ask me things like, I saw a man wearing a hat and you said that they didn't laugh at that joke. Let's see if there's consistency tomorrow if I see another man with a hat. It's just adorable. You're a bitch.

Yeah, I've blocked it. I'm really sorry. And I'm going to follow dad because I think dad gets a lot of flack in the family. for being like, you know, we're always like, duh, so grumping. He's not. No, I know. He's like the funniest person in the world. And also, I like his pictures,

and only because he posts. Purely on the basis of the posting. He is very strong on social media. And purely on the basis that social media means nothing. So I can block mom. I can't even say this. I can block mom. And I can still have just as good a relationship with her in real life.

Yeah, that's actually really strong. It shows that social media means BS. So really, interestingly, you're going to follow dad because he's so good on social media and, like, he posts so much. I'm going to block Dad because he's so good on social media and post so much. Like when he posted that picture of that clock in Sweden and it got fucking 400 likes of such shit.

Look, it was a good clock. It was a strong move. And also it was a strong episode. So that was our first episode, guys. What did you think? Don't tell us. I don't want to know. Yes.

Do. No, welcome to the first episode. And we have amazing guests. We've got comedians. We've got writers. We've got like activists. We've got influencers. We've got authors.

Yeah. And also everybody who we've spoken to so far has just been Everyone has a very different approach to social media And whether it's funny or sometimes quite moving It's been it's been really interesting Yeah and everyone's been really honest So we hope you'll join us for the rest of the season So go to our Instagram at Might Delete Later pod to have look at that

Also do like DM or message or email My Delete Laterpod at gmail.com Any like screenshots of your online old tweets or, you know, you're, like, embarrassing first Instagrams, please. Embarrassing first Instagrams, because look, we need to share, we need to destigmatise this. And also, like, you just saw mine. My, wait, no, you just saw mine.

Mine was actually quite offensive. Yeah, well, this is the importance. I mean, we're not going to post it if it's offensive. Don't, don't worry. Just if it's funny and fun. If it's funny and fun. So, you can also follow me and Stevie. I'm at Gina Martin and Stevie is at Stevie M.

The S is a 5, and I've tried to change it to be Stevie Martin, but it's already been taken. so that's the end of that. Still. And don't be too precious about what you post. You learn, you grow, things change. But if you're really upset, you can always be an arsehole and mightily later.

Yeah. Or be me and just don't. Goodbye. Goodbye. Thank you for joining us.