Might Delete Later - Ep 14: Lou Sanders

Episode Date: September 17, 2020

Gina and Stevie talk pile-ons, football videos and ‘your dad’ jokes with stand-up comedian and ‘Taskmaster’ champion Lou Sanders.👉🏼Remember you can find all posts discussed on Instagram @mightdeletelaterpod and we're on twitter too @mightdeletepod.Listen to Lou Sanders’s Cuddle Club podcast on Acast, Apple and SpotifyFollow Lou on Twitter @LouSanders and Instagram @louliesandersFollow Gina on Instagram @ginamartin and Twitter @ginamartinukFollowing Stevie on Instagram @5tevieM and Twitter @5tevieMWant to help us make more episodes? Support Might Delete Later at https://supporter.acast.com/mightdeletelaterHosted by Gina Martin and Stevie Martin.Photo by Joe Magowan.Artwork by Zoe Harrison.Recorded and edited by Ben Williams.Produced by Plosive Productions.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/mightdeletelater. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do you love Might Delete Later? I bloody hope you do. You can support our show by using the new ACAS supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there is no regular commitment. Just smash that link in the show description and support us now so we can keep making this podcast. Thank you. Hello and welcome to Might Delete Later with me, Stevie Martin, a person who simply does not like social media and will not stand for it actually. And me, Gina Martin, who likes it and will.

Stand for it actually. Our guest this week is comedian known for winning Taskmaster, and she's been on QI, Hypothetical, A-Aftain Cats, just Countdown, as well as this way up and sick of it. Her name is Lou Sanders, and we love her. She's brilliant. She also has a podcast called Cuddle Club, which is literally about cuddling.

And it does sustain a podcast. Like, it's very good. And I know that she's going on tour at some point in, like, the next, I don't know, five years. So if you go on her links in her various bios, you can find any sort of upcoming shows that she's doing in this, the time of uncertainty for live, live work. I really, I like, love the idea of a podcast about coddling.

Like, I think that's the purest thing I ever heard. It's so pure. And also, everyone has. I really want to go on it. We, I think, well, I think we are. Oh, hey, spoiler alert. Today, we chatted all about how to deal with mean people on Twitter, how to focus your output on social and how to clean up your insides.

Clean of your insides. And also, what I realized is we spoke about how your, attitude towards social media says much more about you and where you are in your life and it is about the platform, which obviously bodes very well for me considering my anxiety with it. So I took my hand. Well, I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it? It does make sense. You've got anxiety, you're anxious about social and that's okay, Steve. Before we start, Stevie, what is in your draft this week? Okay, so someone I really like and really respect, I think is really cool and followed me the other week. And I know it because I go back to her account like and have been every month

being like she still follows me so that means that i'm okay and then um she stopped and i think about it all day every day and i had i've thought about it for a fortnight i've even convinced myself that's something i've done so i've like gone back through all my tweets and all my tweets and replies being like did i say something that was like really banal or really and i haven't so i ham forced to come to the her conclusion that she just doesn't like me and that's fine and so okay, but it's, I find it interesting. It's clearly not okay. You're clearly not okay with it. No, no. Actually, I'm going, I'm coming to terms of it now a bit, but what I think is interesting is it made me think

about how pre-social media or when social media wasn't really that much of a big deal in my life, you very rarely had that element of like, well, I mean, actually, some people kind of do cultivate friendships where there's a lot of drama, but I very much don't. So there's a lot of like, there's no, I don't want to be a friend anymore. There's no notification that someone doesn't want you in their life. Exactly. You just don't see them anymore. Yeah, and that's so cool.

But now there's like an actual notification. And it led me to this thing where you can obviously look at who's unfollowed you. Oh, don't do that. I'm not. Why did you find that? I'm not doing it. Because I saw it and thought, I've never, I've never seen something so perfectly designed for my downfall. Like I've never seen anything that clearly going to make me a crypticeney of the edge,

become an absolute. like I'm going to live in a tree outside my house for the rest of them. For no reason. Pointless, really. Anyway, what is yours? What's in your draft? My drafts this week is that I want to follow everyone. Oh.

No. I, on Instagram, I follow like five and a half. Also, a question. When you're saying thousands, as in amounts like of people, cheese, things. Can you say K or is that only for money? I think you can say it, but I don't think many do. Right. Okay.

But I think to go for it. Let's just see what it sounds like. Just say it in the sentence now. I follow five and a half K of people. No. No. Thou Thou Thou. It's Thou Thou Thou Thou.

Yeah, five and a half Thou Thou Peps. And I, you know, I came on Instagram really early and I've been following those people for a long time. Critically, I followed a lot of people when I went through like my real basic bitching upstage, which was when I lived in. Greece and I thought I had to be like, bad day at the office, look at the ocean, like that's what my post was. And like a picture of boy and it was like, hey boy.

And that was all like that shit. I just thought I had to do that. Absolutely. In a way you do. So I followed a lot of people in those years, which I called the lost years. No judgment, no shame. Well, I think if you went through who I follow,

there'd be some problematic shit in there. Okay. I only really want to fill my feed up with things that genuinely are interesting or a positive or great or whatever. people that like, you know, I want to go through everyone I follow and be like, oh, I haven't looked at their still for an age years. I love their page. So I need to call and accidentally and follow you at the same time.

Well, you've muted me. So that's just, it's tit for tat, baby. I go on your profile a lot. So it's tit for tit. What was my latest post? I'm never going to remember that even. I know, I have seen it. I know, it's got one new post so I haven't seen it.

Oh, there is William. I did see it. And I liked it, you asshole. Right. Oh, my God. Yes, I'm going to call a lot of people and basically make sure that people I'm following of accounts I only, or accounts are following the things I only want to see. But I have to find the time to do that because it's obviously five and a half thawthal peeps,

which will take a long time. That will take a long time, but Godspeed to you, it's time well spent. But so now, to our episode, before you delve in, please check out at Mike Delate Later Pod on Instagram. Give us a foal, low. And we've got the posts that Lou discussed today. Thank you so much to Zoe Harris and the designer who gave our social media account a whole new babe.

Oh yeah, and you can imagine how much I had to do with that very much nothing. I don't do any of the social media. Julia does it all, but I edit the vidvids. So that's okay, isn't it? She edits the vidvids, brilliantly. We need to stop calling things like this. Right, this was a great episode. Just enjoy and let it wash over you like a fine wine.

Enjoy. So each week, we like to pick something that we would like to do. delete to take off the face of the planet, but you're not allowed to pick social media. Otherwise, I would pick it every week. What would you delete this week, Gina? I would delete my two bottom molars because I sort of thought that my teeth look were great

because I had braces for three and a half years and they looked stunning. You looked so cute. It was a kid who had big owl glasses as well and like braces. And you look like a lovely, cute, like, drawing of like a little girl. Like if cartoonist drew like the kid who is unfortunate looking in school, it was me. I had like mad teeth and an eye patch and it was great.

Did you have an apache? Well, yeah, I did, but that was because my mum had an operation on her eye and I just like sort of sympathy wanted an eye patch, so I gave myself one. It's a very long, like this is why I was bullied. Yeah. I can see. Yeah. Yeah.

I can see why. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, brace for three years, great teeth. And then over the past like three years have got. wisdom teeth and now my bottom teeth all look very stressed out like they're at a festival and then I'm going of space and they're trying to like get out my mouth. So I'm just annoyed about it, you know, because a lot of pain braces and now I'm going to have to have them removed. So I'd rather just delete

them than have them removed. Yeah. Yes. May I say that I know somebody had their wisdom teeth out very recently and it wasn't very painful at all. They said it was actually a lot of fun. May I suggest a bit of string on the door and a game of how long does it take to pull Gina's wisdom to you that? I would be up for that if it was you doing it. And it was a game show. And we got paid. And I got paid on that. And can I also just say no one should bully anyone for looking different or being different?

I really believe that. Totally agree. Please. My cheap agreement earlier is not to be taken seriously. No, even if you do wear sunglasses at school and say that they're prescription sunglasses. Or take a little walking stick to school because you want to look like a little old man. Like even if you do, do you?

Oh my God. That's okay. She used to wear a little grandad hat. And when we crossed the road, she'd tip her hat to the cars. Wow. Why do you have to tell? I mean, I sound like an eccentric old mini man from like the 1910s. Like, I don't know what was wrong with this.

Okay, Stevie, what are you doing this week? I'm deleting aphids. Look, apheds. We all know them. We've all come into contact with an aphid. Sure. In a bug's life. Or maybe they're an ant.

So they're green, they're tiny. I thought that they would be like cute little bugs that like occasionally on your plant. They're not. They infested a house plant that we had on the balcony. And yeah, I've got a balcony to go for more or better. Anyway, and then it jumped onto another plant. And so then we had to throw two of our most beautiful plants in the bin. And I know before you say it, Lou, because I can tell you're going to,

that you're supposed to spray it with washing up. Well, you know, look, I've been on a few forums. I've been on a few forums. You know, do you want me to show you my spritzer that I've made at home to get my... I made quite a lot, yes. Yes, is it your hands? It's spritzer out live. She's gone to get her spritzer.

I read this. Oh, she's... I just spritz myself. Oh. I'm not on a date later and I just spritz myself. Oh, that's a... That's actually a... Okay, I wasn't expecting this, but that's a stunning spritzer.

looks like something from like Harry Potter or something. Why do you think I wanted to show you? I don't know, but now I do. Yeah, it looks like it's in Hogwarts or something. It's gorgeous. It's got like blush pink liquid in it. Like, what's that? This is washing, a tiny bit of washing up liquid and some other things that are recommended online.

You spray the underside of the plant, you give it a little rub, you say three Hail Marys and they all disappear. Stunning. Okay. Well, I'll say that. I raise you, I put my plant in the shower because it was so invested. and then when we took it out it still had aphids on it and then also all of the laundry that was hanging up

on the clothes was in the bathroom also had aphid on it because they jumped onto my like my smalls so we had to just like throw the plants away and I was so sad because they were our friends and now they are dead. At least you had a final shower with them before you

I liked that with all friends that I'm sort of like not connecting with anymore you have a final shower yeah yeah yeah yeah you let them go What would you like to delete this week that goes with aphids and with teeth? Racism. Stunning. Okay, perfect.

Okay, so, you know, you've got your niggles and I've got mine. And I just, for me personally, I'd just like to get rid of racism. I think that's really good. I'm really glad someone finally said it on the podcast. Yeah. No, I'd love to get rid of, like, if we were all fully conscious, this is something I think about a lot. If we were all fully conscious, which I'm not, because I can be a little bitch still, but I'd love to be enlightened.

If we were all fully conscious, we wouldn't have any problems at all. No. But I think that's the point of life is to try and get fully conscious, and you can't do it in one lifetime. So, you know, you can't just get there otherwise? Oh, can I just turn the coffee off? Yeah. Sure. That was an insane.

That was a brilliant sentence. I wish we could all be fully enlightened, but we can't just get there. Can I turn the coffee off? I was like really listening. I was like, oh my God, is this how we get there? We've decided to ask everyone what their screen time is, their average daily screen time. Do you know your average daily screen time, Lou? That's a great game, if I may compliment the ladies.

Well, no, but it does flash up and I think, oh, piss off. Like, I didn't ask to know my screen time. It just tells me. On a Monday morning, no less. On a Monday morning, I wake up to saying, like, I've managed to get mine down by half an hour in the last year. Oh, that's so good. It went up by like three hours during the lockdown when I didn't have anything to do. Daily average, 529, 530, let's say.

Yeah, okay. Is that good? But mine is 445, but I got it down. What's genius? I bet it's huge. Nine hours, 54 minutes or anything. Oh, no, no. And it's 423.

Yeah. Do you know, there's like eight hours of daylight? I know. I've been on it since 8 a.m. What, just been on my phone working all day. How bad on that? Why do you work on your phone? Have you got, you've got a PC or a laptop?

I've got a desktop, a desktop. But I, I'm on social media as part as my job. And then my Slack, which is Slack is like where my management and we all talk about stuff. I do my emails on my phone. I create all my assets on my phone. I do all my like edits for things I'm sending over for jobs on my phone. I work out with my phone.

I have my workout up on my phone. So literally, maybe I should change some things in my life. Yes. Maybe. Take my emails off my phone, maybe. Or don't take them off, but just get used to putting them on the desktop because it's nice on a desktop. You've got more room to roam. Yeah, you can't really organise on a phone with emails.

I would say that you're still, it's funny, isn't it? because we do see like TV screen and Mac screen is like good, good screen. And then phone is bad screen. You're like, they're still screens. Yeah. No judgment, but we're going to have every week checking Gina's daily average. Gina, do you get into nature at all? Only when I've got so stressed I can't feel my hand.

I have to go for a walk. Which actually happened a couple weeks ago. But maybe I should go before or lose feeling in my extremities. Yeah. And you could sometimes not take your phone. with you just get used to it. Lou, you're on Instagram and Twitter and also, I'm sure, Facebook or whatever,

but like... No, no, I came off Facebook because of the Russians. Well, the Russians but also didn't get much traction, the stuff on there, so, you know, either or. Yeah, yeah, a bit of both, yeah. That's interesting, right, so you've come on Facebook, but you're on Instagram and Twitter. Which do you prefer? I think Twitter because

it's more about the jokes Twitter and then Instagram's just a bit more vacuous and shallow and I mean I used to look at stuff thinking my god everyone's mentally ill like on instagram thinking this is an illness the whole thing and now I do stuff that I used to kind of think I'd never do that so it is gross the whole thing's gross I'm exactly the same I used to when I first started Instagram would I didn't I just couldn't get my head around people posting

photos of themselves like I just couldn't not even just selfies just I couldn't get it get my head around it and now pretty much every single picture I post is of myself and I seem to be sometimes I'll look at my grid and be like what have I become it's so addictive and it's like we sort of have the mentality of well if everyone else is doing it I never post a fit photo just of me looking fit it it would only be if there's a joke attached to it but then sometimes I'm like sometimes I would do a record of something and I think oh I post pictures of me and friends and stuff but then sometimes I have to battle against if something's really a funnier take

but I look really gross in it and like you're a comedian, you're not a model but I have to really battle with that like oh you're going to put a gross picture up but I do think it's important to not have every photo of you looking really fit because I think it's bad for you and then bad for expectations so I think sometimes you've got a like

I put up a story the other day and my neck looked gross and I didn't have any makeup on and I thought well it's real you've got to like you can't put all of the fit ones Yeah, but I'm less likely to do that on the wall, but I have done it here and there, but I'm less likely to because I think, girls got to eat. And also, which is what we're going to get to is you actually get food through Instagram as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I meant dick, yeah. That's gross. I'm trying to change my town.

No, no. I'm trying to change my town. I'm trying to change my time. Talking of dick, though. I was going to say, my next question was that you make a lot of excellent jokes about dating people's dads and having sex. people's dads on Twitter. No, but I'm really stopping that now. Are you?

Why? You said today that your labia was right wing, but hasn't got only TV spots. Yeah, but they are, they're few and far between. Because if you do that, like, I'm associated with that tone, and then people think that I can't do any other tone and I can't do, like, family gigs and stuff. So what I'm trying to do is just cut down on all that.

And I did do a lot of your dad jokes. And then I was like, and then everyone kept replying, like, your dad, your dad, your dad has. And then I was like, oh, God, I need to like, you know, branch out of it. Your mom. Whoa. Yeah, when you were, when you were doing a lot of those shows, did you get like reply guys or guys in your DMs? I mean, this is the thing that I, so, because I do do do a lot of gross tweets,

I do get a lot of answers of like, the, especially the thing about the labia is an interesting one because, like, I try and normalize body parts. I talked a lot in my show about having a big labia, and it's because, and I've tried to do that stand up on TV so many times about my longer labia. And it's not just gross, it's not like gross out comedy to shock or anything.

It's got, I do think it's got a political point of like, we're not allowed to see vaginas on TV, we're not allowed to see it. And they're made sort of grotesque, but the comedy was actually very thought through about owning your body parts, etc so then when I make jokes about my labour it's sort of an extension of that and it's not trying to be like gross it's trying to be like owning my body and saying about having a large labia

hopefully and sometimes pure or sometimes funny sometimes thoughtful way but the guys who reply don't get it and like it is it's like if you slag your mum off it's fine if you slag your mouth but if someone else joins in you're like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa so if i'm talking about my body in that way and own it then it's fine but if a man who doesn't know it and hasn't seen it is like joining in and sort of like dragging it down or it's like oh god tone is such an important thing and they don't get it but you can't have a go at them because they think they're joining in and they're like oh great it's a free for all not their fault yeah social media is like it's a very it's that's the line you always play isn't it's like difficult plays to like for people to

capture and understand you once in any way yeah it's wishful thinking on their part i suppose good luck to everyone yeah i imagine and and their dads yeah yeah yeah but i i enjoy it like I love, I actually love social media. I love Instagram. I love Twitter in terms of my output, certainly. Let's go onto your posts. I think we're focusing on Twitter for this one. Although I did find your first Instagram post,

which was just a picture of two carrots, nose to nose, and the caption was, carrots. So that's good. But I think we'll go into it. So yeah, your first tweet was on the 1st of December. Happy Advent, everybody, 2009. And you said, and I can really read it in your voice on this. What fortuitous timing.

I've joined Twitter on National AIDS Day. Tongues will wag. Good luck AIDS. That's the first one. Yeah. And I mean that. I mean, actually, good luck AIDS prevention, I think I meant. But yeah.

I think that's what you meant. Yeah, that would make more sense. When we first read it, we're like, good Lord. And then we realized that you meant obviously AIDS, AIDS prevention. But why did you join Twitter? I think my first week, I was with Joe Lysit. and he was staying at my house. What a year was this?

2009. Yeah, I think he was staying at my house in London and he was on Twitter and I said, shall I join? Shall I join? And it was really like, I was making a real hoo-har of it. And he was like, yeah, join. I was like, okay, I'm going to set up my account. And then he was probably like, yeah, I don't give that much of shit, mate.

And then I was like, oh, what's this? And you can see like what's trending and World's AJ is probably trending. And then I was like, okay, I'll do it about that. Oh, jumping on the trending straight away. I didn't really know what the trending bar was for like six months. I was like, what's the news bar about? But that is another thing what annoys me of like people just using other people to make themselves more relevant and trying to make jokes of people that are human beings.

And then before you know it, some poor person like Taylor Swift or whoever has got loads of people being, they don't even care, they don't even know her. They don't even really dislike her. They're just like joining in on a thing to try and get likes from. And humor, and you're like, well, that's a real person that's going to know their trending. It's that kind of thing. Or like even the, even the Me Too movement, which I laugh. But, um, big fan.

But even that can be hijacked for people trying to get attention. And you're like, oh, no, not now because you're taken away from the real stuff. It's like the, um, you see every other day you have like insert name and it says, is over party? Do you see that? Like it's always like, think you think it is over party. And you go on it and it's like, I don't know how it started, but it's now massive. I have a kind of rule, personal rule where I'm similar to you or I just don't.

I try to engage only positively. So even talking about something that's like rubbish and scary, like a news thing, I'll be like, here's like something you can do or like here's what's going on and like here's some people who are doing something good. Try and engage positively in a nice way and also just never jump on someone else. Because why are you doing it? Unless it's Donald Trump, am I right? Oh, I'm on that. I'm on that hard.

But even that though I'm now it's got so beyond it I'm like I don't want to retweet And be like isn't this bad Yeah there we need him any any platforming Yeah yeah I don't I don't retweet his The only one I can remember I did And I thought oh no maybe I won't get an American fees now

I did like delete all my Trump tweets When he was going to go into power Or he just got elected because then I thought it would question my V user Which is not great Because some of them were really good But anyway But, like, I don't retweet his stuff.

I don't read his stuff because I do think as well, like, don't go into that energy. Don't, like, try and stay away from all that shit. So when you're tweeting and, like, if you're having, like, a bit of a back and forward with someone, so someone, say, like, an example you gave before where you've told a joke and someone hasn't got it and they're getting annoyed. I would just ignore it. I just ignore it. So do you block anyone or do you use, or do you just completely just let them do their thing

and scream into the void? Yeah, sometimes they block them. What I mean is I ignore them if they've misunderstood. the joke or they're trying to get involved and it's a bit gross. If they, like, insult me in a way that I think is unfair or stupid or they didn't need to act me in, then sometimes I reply, sometimes I don't, sometimes I quique to vote it and add like a little sassy thing. But then I feel bad sometimes.

So, go on. Tell us about your worst post. So this man, and he should know better, to be fair, like he's like a 55-year-old man or whatever. It's the other day, I did a radio show with, just on. like just for 20 minutes on like Ed and Matthews Radio X show, great show. And then one guy replied to the, so Radio X put a thing out saying joining us is Lou and this other guy that was on. And then someone replied to it adding me in going, someone's going to have to explain to me the appeal of Lou Sanders.

So then I just thought it's kind of amusing. And then I retweeted it saying, not everything's for you. Because it's true. That's one of my things. I just think like, yeah, you don't get the appeal of someone. You don't need to. You don't need to tweet everyone and go like, please, you know, it's like if we only had the people that we liked in media,

it'd be like, it's just impossible. Again, it's like trying to get the whole world to conform to you. It's like, yeah, I'm not for you, and the minute my comedy is for you, I'm doing something wrong. But anyway. That's a great response. I think you should have said that as well. Yeah, I should have said that.

But it's like, it's not for you. You've already got three chins. Don't be greedy. and then that sort of blew up a bit that tweet and then everyone started replying to him which I didn't think was funny at first and then I thought oh no like he's just some like sad old man with like 11 followers and now everyone's sort of attacking him and I did tweet to him saying sorry this sorry this blew up I hope you're okay and something you know nice about it but then he didn't get back and I think he deleted his original tweet and even

that post even that post like then people were like oh you're being body shaming you're being fatest kind of thing. And I was like, well, I didn't make a comment on whether it was good or bad. I just said he had three tins. You're putting your projection of good or bad onto it. But obviously, you know, there was a sort of, you know, thing then. It's like, well, and it's like there's a balance somewhere. You're like, okay, well, he needs to know that adding people in isn't cool and not everything's for him. That's what I would say, like at that time, it's like, yeah, like you don't have to like me and you don't have to tell me you don't like me. and go and find someone you do like kind of thing but then when it's hips over

and he's had a lot of shit you know then yeah there's like a pile on that's like disproportionate almost to the original comment yeah yeah that's hard yeah I know what you mean but I also do know that if you were going up on the streets people saying shit like that you'd be like you'd expect someone to be to have a go

with you yeah but the difference would be going up to someone on the street saying that and then lose walking the street and gives him shit and then go, come on, guys, then 40,000 people come over and stop screwing. Yes, of course. Yeah. On to more positive, positive social media times.

Yeah, tell us about your best post for something that you love doing online. So I think my favourite posts were around the time. Me and Annie McGraw did through Turtle Canyon, like, it was a World Cup and we just did one video day on the World Cup. And I love that because it felt quite like it was just stupid and we just improvise a video a day. And then we get loads of other comics involved. And so we stoop really did everything.

We just like talked shit for a bit. But that was really fun because, you know, you're not doing any harm there, are you talking about the football? No, and there's something like wholesome almost and brilliant about like doing your own little project that's fun and bringing it to life and tweeting about it and talking about it. And no one's telling you you have to tweet about it or no one's telling you what you need to do,

there's no like goalposts, pun. Like it's really fun to do your own stuff like that and just make silly stuff and be playful. Like that's really fun. Yeah. And it was collaborative and it was just silly and we just got to say whatever we wanted. Do you find promoting yourself and things you're doing hard?

And does it change depending on what you're promoting? So for example, that thing with animeagram was just so, and I watch loads of them. But also I find things like that quite fun to promote. But sometimes I can feel a little bit stressed stroke and feel like I'm not doing it right? How do you feel in general? We're British. It's embarrassing the whole thing.

No, it just depends on, again, it's context, isn't it? Because it depends how much you have to bang out on about something. And, you know, like, I think if it's just you promoting your stuff, you sort of have to balance that out without the stuff you enjoy, I think. That's when you feel better about it. There was something recently that I did a very average job on and I thought, well, I'll promote it. Do you like like three in the morning being like, this happened? and then just hope the no one sees it.

That's what people do. That's what people do with their apology letters, the naughty boys. Yes, literally. And then they retweet loads of stuff so it gets lost. Yeah. I was so clever. Very canny. What would you do if a friend who's like, I've filmed a sketch or something?

Yeah. Can you please like tweet it out and you watch it and it's a pile of shit? Yeah. I think you just have to be careful with the phrasing. So there is one person. and they can think of that it's not comedy, but if they haven't yet asked me to tweet about something, but if I had to be, it just is a bit,

like it's everything I hate, but I'll just be like, oh, this is so-and-so doing their thing. Oh, I see, yeah. Something like that. Sometimes you can just repost, because I get asked to post a lot of stuff all the time, and like it can be anything even closely related to, because it's human rights stuff that I talk about mostly.

It's like anything closely related to being human. I'll be asked to post about. And some of them are great, but there's a kind of thing that happens, obviously, where when you get cinema out followers, people start to draw you. And Stevie Dowe. Oh, oh, gosh.

And some of them have been so funny. I'm still laughing now years later. So bad. I always think if I was going to draw someone, right? Because a lot of artists will draw people they look up to to hope that that person then reposts it and they get some views, which is a great strategy. It's just like going to be talking, fine.

But if you're going to draw someone and you've made them look like an inside out Boris Johnson, me, don't maybe ask them to share it and then if they don't reply, like, ask them four more times. So what I will sometimes do is I'll just like share the picture, but I won't say anything. I'll just put it on my story because it's like, well, you know, I want you to get views

and I don't want anyone to, I mean, I used to be, do art for seven years. crap for years. It's like you only get better. You wouldn't have drawn anyone looking like that and then sent it to them though because you looked absolutely. It was like that Ronaldo statue.

It's all the funniest things I've ever seen. Honestly, I nearly died laughing. I've had a couple of bad ones that I'm like, what? Like, what? Do I look like that? Is that how I look? The artists that had to draw royal families knew they had to like, not saying that we're royal family, Gina,

but you know, not far off. But the whole, you know, Like, unless it's a caricature, you know, to, like, be flattering. Yeah. But, yeah, that's, that, I think just being like, that so-and-so doing a thing, or just, like, quietly just popping on these things without any comment. It's such a, that's such a smart, it's just smart move. Stealth, stealth share.

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