Might Delete Later - Ep 16: Alistair Green

Episode Date: October 1, 2020

Viral video sensation and lover of the 🤪 emoji Alistair Green chats beef, duck butts and not understanding his own jokes in this week’s episode.👉🏼Remember you can find all posts discussed on Instagram @mightdeletelaterpod and we're on twitter too @mightdeletepod.Follow Alistair Green on Twitter and Instagram @mralistairgreenFollow Gina on Instagram @ginamartin and Twitter @ginamartinukFollowing Stevie on Instagram @5tevieM and Twitter @5tevieMWant to help us make more episodes? Support Might Delete Later at https://supporter.acast.com/mightdeletelaterHosted by Gina Martin and Stevie Martin.Photo by Joe Magowan.Artwork by Zoe Harrison.Recorded and edited by Ben Williams.Produced by Plosive Productions.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/mightdeletelater. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do you love Might Delete Later? I bloody hope you do. You can support our show by using the new ACAS supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there is no regular commitment. Just smash that link in the show description and support us now so we can keep making this podcast. Thank you. Hi, I'm Bear and welcome to Might Delete Later, the show where we delve into guest social media timelines. I'm Stevie Martin and look, I don't like social media.

I'm Gina Martin. Look, I do. Very simple. Who was our guest today, Stephen? Today we have the bloody excellent comedian, writer and actor, Alistair Green. He's been on Flowers. He's been on 8 out of 10 cats, does Countdown, Game Face, but also all over your Twitter timeline with consistently excellent viral videos such as beef. We chatted today about when your content is just like too good.

Like, I don't think I could even change that, which was a lovely thing to hear. Also posts the Urk, Alistair and Stevie together, which turned out to just be my entire timeline and also how he creates his characters online. His videos are literally stellar. You have to watch them. They are brilliant. But before we start, Gene Jean, what's in your drafts this week? In my drafts this week is Facebook Business Manager. How much. Oh, isn't it in all of our drafts? Classic. Isn't it in some way? I don't even know what it is. Pisses me off. So Facebook Business Manager is like the hub on Facebook. Facebook is the parent company of Instagram. And if you want to do paid ads on either Facebook or Instagram, you have to go to Facebook

business manager having a business account on Facebook and you create your ad sets and all the creative and the spend and the strategy and everything in there now what are those nouns i thought spend was a verb look it's fine i used to work in advertising i used to do this and it's like since i haven't worked i thought this week oh look i'll uh create some uh you know ads for my in girls business that's me i'm cool i'm marketing i'm a creative i went on it and i was like oh like I nearly passed out. It's so complex. It's changed already since I left.

This is how fast the world moves. It was only a year and a half ago. And now I have to like relearn the whole thing just so I can sell my artwork. So I've kind of got quite stressed about that whole re-learning and I don't really have the time. And right now I just want to, I want someone to just tell me how to do it. But obviously as freelancer, that's not how life works. But it's hard. All this is very hard.

Also, please do go to Gina's, uh, Gina does these incredible paintings. We've even talked about them on here at Gina's Inc. girls. I have two of them. They're amazing. Thanks. Right. What's in my drafts, you say? Thank you. I would like to thank everybody that was involved in the introduction of the like button in all areas of social media.

For example, you've got your fav on Twitter that we've also got the ability to like DMs, haven't you? And on Instagram, you've got the ability to like DMs as well as to like comments. And the reason I'm thanking everybody is it's the perfect way to end a conversation on these platforms. So if you don't have anything else, like,

there's always a point where you're tweeting, having a Twitter conversation with someone, and it's like, it's run out, but you don't have to end it. So you just like it. And everyone knows that is, that is done. What it's meant now is that on things like WhatsApp, when someone's just like,

you have like a nice little chat, and then suddenly like, oh my God, it's come to the end of the chat. Oh my God, yes. I don't know how to end this without saying, okay, bye. Just say, ha, ha. Ha ha, ha, but then they go ha as well, and then you're like, well, I've say something.

One way of doing it is, of course, the cheeky kiss. So you do a kiss at the end of your, you do a sort of like, oh, yeah, it's like a summation WhatsApp being like, oh, yeah, absolutely. I find that as well, kiss, which sort of implies you're leaving. But then some people don't adhere to that and come back with a reply. And then I always go, oh, just like it. Oh, I can't. So what I'm saying is that all the platforms that have the like or fave button on them,

I love you. That's a really good one. I'm going to tell you from now on when you want to finish conversation on WhatsApp, just say, just got a meeting now, but I'll talk to you later. I could do that, but sometimes it's like midnight. I use the big thumb, big old thumb, huge thumb, to be like, thumbs up as I'm backing away to our guest today. Our guest is Alastair Green, and you can see all of his amazing videos that we discussed in the episode on at Might Delete Later Pod. It's quite an exciting one for us because we actually haven't had a guest who does amazingly brilliant video content yet. So our social media account is just going to be full of the loll-l-l's.

Go over there, have a look, and also enjoy. So each week we ask our guest what they would like to delete. So this week, I would like to delete Top-aware, because I feel like my life is revolved around trying to find the lid. And I just can't, I'm stressed about it. I always want them to be in the same place to take anything out. They clatter to the floor. It's like socks, Tupperware and Barbie pins like exist in the same universe in which I can never use them.

Are your Tupperware all the same size? Because that's a good, you could have a stacking system. This is the thing. I thought they were because we order them all from the same takeaway. Wait a minute. You don't buy the Tupperware. You save it from takeaways. I also do that.

I don't buy Tupperware either. It's free, you know. It's just like as money. Sabre. Stevie, what would you like to delete this week? I'd like to delete being told things like good are bad. Look, it's very easy to get your head around this. Reality being shattered. I did a lot of research. I read one blog post in 2014 about what the best non-dairy milk was and oats apparently, because almond milk, they ship the almonds over something. No, they use a lot of water with almond. But yeah. And there's another one where it's like it's flown over on a plane or something.

I was like, hey, I can't take it. Whereas oats is just like, they just squeeze some oats and that's fine. Squeeze some. I think that's what you squeeze it in like a little, in some closh. No, that's hell. Cloth. Like a mesh thing, isn't it? And it drips through in like a year.

Cheese cloth. And then you get a shot glass of like very disgusting liquid. Oatly superior to all oat milks. It's quite annoying branding though, isn't it? It's like, I'm your friend. I'm a human. Yeah. Hey, guys. Just that thing. You're a corporation.

This is a boring bit of the box. You like that's... Yeah. Yeah. Turns out, like 10% of them or something is owned by... I look, I didn't... I started reading it and then I stopped reading it. That was me that posted it, you asshole.

Read it. I read it and I was like, again, this is why I'm deleting it. I don't want to know it. Oh, fair enough. I know enough now to... Now I will stop. It's something to do with investment and I didn't look into it, but I was immediately like, right, well, the M&S oat milk is actually quite nice,

so I'll buy that as an M&S near me, fine. I do want to know things, of course, but I don't like to know all of it. For a bit, I'd like to just get a bullet point list of things, so I don't have to like know why and really like engage in how everything I know is consistently a lie, and then it turns around again and it's, and I feel like I'm not real. Oh my God, that was so, they got so deep. Okay, well, Al, what would you like to do this week? Uh, I cloud.

I hate, I hate everything about it. I don't understand it. It's caused me so much hassle. I mean, the obvious answer to this is just don't switch it on. But even that is a thing. If you ever go into the Apple store, which everything I use is Apple. So I have to go in the store a lot. Like once every two weeks ago, please, I need a meeting at the Genius Bar.

The Genius Bar. And then the last time I went in there was about my phone and my front microphone wasn't working. And I went in there. Obviously, never met this person in my life. He's sitting at a desk. It's during COVID. This was like two, three weeks ago, something like that. And I went in the store and I liked the people who work in there.

I like them. They're knowledgeable. They're good, right? He's a young guy and he's like, he sat on this desk. As I walked over, he went, what's going on, man? Like really concerned. And I sort of looked behind me. I went, what did you make?

Like I thought I trodding some dog shit or something. I said, what you know? He goes, what's going on, man? I was like, what was I meant to text you? I don't get what. What do you mean? And I went, yeah, and I looked confused. He went, what's the problem with phone?

I went, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. Like, if someone says something like that, your immediate default is, oh, God, what have I done? Fuck. Yeah. The thing that bothers me about, about I cloud, though, is that I don't understand what's happening. I don't. So, because I deal a lot with big files on my computer, I've got a very, very not a good secure system here where I just back everything up to a hard drive every Friday,

an external hard drive or videos and things like that, and that's it. If I have iCloud turned on, my computer, and I've got a fairly new computer, quickly fills up and it says, you cannot do this and that. That can't happen. And then I've got things on my screen going, uploading to iPhone, I go, just don't, surely this should be simpler. How big is this cloud? Not big enough. Yeah, not big enough, quite right.

Yeah, yeah. Another question. What is your average daily screen time on your phone saying? I don't know without checking and my phone switched off and charging, but I'm going to imagine I've ruined the whole thing. I don't know the exact answer to that, but it is something I looked at once and thought, shit. So I'm very conscious with how much I use social media now and I limit myself. So I do do honestly do it around like breakfast, lunch, dinner and it goes off at a certain time. That's great.

And I have to put my phones in the other room now at night and all that stuff that people say you're supposed to do. And once you get into that habit, it's very manageable. Particularly if, because social media is sort of what I do now, I do have to be careful about, you know what I mean. Yeah, it becomes your work and life. Yeah. And the thing is with it is there's something, there's something, it's almost a part of our,

a part of our sort of DNA now. It's almost like scrolling and not really absorbing information in any real sense or just having it flow over you these things. I just think it's very bad for you. But then I do sort of break that a lot. If something happens a news thing or whatever and I want to respond to it quickly and I'll do something quickly, I'll probably have a peek at that and, you know, somewhere in between. But I think perhaps rather than having set times just to be conscious,

of what you're doing with it. You know what I mean? Rather than I think it's very easy just to, you know, be like that, like most people do. I mean, I'm certainly not anti. I'm not anti-social media at all. It's just the same as anything. To excess, it's not good for you.

Yeah, balance. You react very, very quickly sometimes with your characters and stuff because I kind of stay away from news on Twitter. So I will often see a video you've done and then work backwards to the news story. And then watch it again with hindsight and be like, ah, the context makes it even funnier.

I know there are certain news stories that you wouldn't go anywhere near in terms of doing a sketch. Or is it like anything fair game? It's mostly just things that annoy me or sometimes it won't be annoying me. It's just, particularly if it's politics, there's something intrinsically funny

about a squirming politician. it's kind of almost sweet. There's almost sympathy for someone like, particularly someone like Matt Hancock has got that kind of face where he goes, it's kind of heartbreaking where he's fumbling around and going, well, I think, oh God, he just can't get it right, you know, so it's funny.

But other times they're just awful people and it's, you know, there's an obvious angle. And the thing with Switzer is it's very obvious straight away because people kind of say the same things. They go, oh, he said that thing. It's actually you can go, okay, right. Yeah, it feels. so quick and reactive. Do you improv

them a lot or do you script them out sometimes and stuff or is it mostly just like I'm going to go with this and run with it? No, I don't remember write them down. I just switch the phone on and it's so good. But normally I do it like normally I do it once, watch it back and then

because the good thing with Twitter is you get two minutes 20 and ideally you don't really want to use all that time. I don't anyway. So you go what's the quickest way to get this out? So the politician ones, If I do those ones, they very rarely make it into, when I show the film and the cinema and things like that of the videos all strung together, I don't usually use those ones. Those politicians ones are really just to drive numbers to my Twitter because they're very sort of clickable.

Yes. There's something about Twitter is that everyone's talking about a topically bent now. But no, I do it once, watch it back and then I'll usually pick up three things, three kind of joke things. Which, like, platform do you prefer? Because obviously you're very, very heavily on Twitter and successful on Twitter. But you also, I see that you put a lot of stuff on Instagram and maybe potentially did a little drunk live last night. Yeah, I did. I did, yeah.

Well, I think Twitter is much bigger than my Instagram. My Twitter is not that big comparative to other people, really. It's just, I think Twitter's a medium more for comedy. I think it lends itself to comedy better. Instagram is like kind of, you know, very rarely post Instagram politics on Instagram. And it's definitely more shareable on Twitter, isn't it? Right. It goes further so you can share it more.

Right. The design of the app lends itself to being shareable or exponentially getting more views, whereas Instagram doesn't, unless people tag their friends in it and go, oh, this is like that, we know someone like that or whatever. So it takes longer to build up, I think. But there's aspects of Instagram I really like much better than, Like what? Like the live element, I really like the split screen. Like the ease of it is so funny.

I think it's really, I think it's a really like cleverly designed thing. Are there any particular types of social media posts that make you feel a bit sick or that you particularly hate? And also there's no judgment on anyone who's doing them. It's just in terms of like things that essentially get your goat the most. For example, I don't like the sort of. clapping in between words. I find that very difficult. Oh, God. I don't like it when people suddenly adopt the language of how you're meant to do it.

Like, I was this year's old when I found out that. And I'm like, why is this? Don't say it. It's so irritating. And it's such a false friendliness. Like, look at me. Look at me using the language. I don't even say loll. I go, if I ever write low, I can't, I can't do that.

I don't say that. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was cringy. Like that. Get someone. nerves. General posts that get on my nerves, and this is, you'll hate me for this. It's like, I know this is bad. But when people put positive things, they go, guys, I know the world's

awful right now, but look at this. And it's like a video of some ducks or whatever. Some people, and I can think of a couple of people in my head who are following. I don't know why I follow them. Half a million followers. And all they do is post things like that. And now and again, guys, I'm just so happy that, oh, God. The pictures of ducks and stuff is literally all Stevie follows. No, but yeah, but I would like to make it very clear. No, no, but it's okay because I follow things like accounts that are like Duck of the Day. And it's just, it's been over five years. It's no issue with that.

What I'm talking about is when it's a person, because an account called Duck of the Day, great. What I'm talking about is an individual going, guys, I've just seen this. I just want to spread a little sunshine. Yeah. Do you know what you could do with your sunshine? Stick it off a duck's ass. Thank you. Yeah.

Yeah. To be fair, I've watched that. Now, if there was a Twitter account called, sticking things up adopts us. Now you're talking. I completely hear you about people using, like, normalise and then anything, you know? Like, people say normalise a lot or repeating this sentence over and over again. Like, pay, full disclosure, this is all me.

No, it is. Okay, okay. No, it is, but it's fine because it's just like different feelings about social media. That's the whole point of podcast. Like, yeah, but it is. It's so all me. It could not be more me. Guys, I'm going to have to go.

This is too awkward. This is two... I'm too tense. I can't handle this. I'm going to go on Twitter now and do the clap and go, don't do their podcast. I do use emojis, actually. I do use a lot of...

I use this one. You know the one with the tongue out on the other eyes. That's your bio, isn't it? That's my brand. Yeah, that's my brand, that guy. I want him on a thing. Or the sunglasses one. I love them both.

You like the sunglasses one. I've seen that one. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. got very excited to when the, I'll do an impression of it, they were on this. Yeah, the drunk one. What is that? He's quite fun because he sort of

is like, eh, but he's like a little bit more like, oh, what? I'll tell you the saddest one. The saddest one, straight face. Oh, yeah, not good. Just the smile is a straight, horizontal line. Him, frowny face, he's like, oh, he's had a, oh, he's had a tough day. Straight face, he's a kid.

His parents got divorced and he's got no dinner. It's like half horrible. Like he's got no dinner. And he's just, and he's just straight-paced guys just holding it together. When you started doing those like vignettes, if they,

if one didn't do particularly well or say, um, those one you weren't quite happy with or whatever, did you ever feel weird doing them when you first started doing them before you built the following? Like the first one I ever put up because I remember like I started doing online content for the first time this year. And the first one I put up,

it was like I just, exposed my anus to everybody. You know? I said like the duck. Oh God. Yeah, did you feel like you exposed your anus? That's the question. I wouldn't say it was that good.

No. So I don't, I can't remember. I remember one of the first ones that I thought, I realized it was a thing. Like I thought, oh, that's, I was pleased with it. I thought that's really good. I think sounds mad, like a thing on your phone. But there's some that I go, okay, I don't see how that

be better. Like there was one of the first ones was like he's a guy, this one called an inquisitive man. So I gave them little titles of like, and I thought it's a self-contained world. That inquisitive man one I thought about. And basically it's the premise is a man who is defending a footballer who's been accused of sexual assault or rape. So he, but you don't know the details. Okay. So all you hear, all you see is this guy going, I can't remember what it says. Like, look, I'm just asking questions here, all right? Listen, what you've got to ask yourself is, what is the girl doing in a hotel room? And then it goes on like that, and it's a slow realization that the woman works in the hotel,

but there's no justification for it whatsoever. And then I realized it's this sort of funny thing about that one is that there's an internal logic to this character in his head, where he's like, and then I was like, like, how far can you take that? how much further will this person go to justify it in the face of all this evidence? Yes. And that's the reality of those conversations, which is why it's so brilliant. I think I would probably get a lot more views if I was slightly more obvious with it or put jokes in it or made the characters a bit more two-dimensional.

That's interesting. Because I see some people online doing that kind of thing and I go, I wouldn't really want to do that. So the point of those kind of characters is that it's insidious. and it's kind of, they're not outright saying things that we would recognize in quotation marks as racist, but the implication of what they're saying obviously is, or they think it's acceptable what they're saying. There's an assumption on their part that I'm right, you know, I'm right about this, you know. Bad satire is like hitting people over the head with it, you know, and like, and it's quite, it's quite tedious. Also, that's why people like social content

like this. That's why people like comedy online because it's not like highly produced and highly Right. They want to see just a talented person do something in their own way. Like that's really nice to watch, you know? But it is interesting. Like when you talk to sort of TV people and stuff like, hey, what about, okay, you're in a different setting.

You're like, no. Yeah, no. You live in an apartment block and all of the characters are people you actually, they're you. So we open the door and you. Yeah. You've made it. You've taken what was great about it.

And you've made it shit. That's what you've done now. And it sounds of a problem because I've sort of done their job. I've written it, edited it. I've even distributed it in a cinema. There's not much they can add to the mix really. I've sort of fucked myself. It's a nightmare, really.

We've asked you to bring a post that you're most proud of and a post that you really regret. Should we start with one that you're all proud of? Probably the Inquisitive Man one, or there was another one that I was really pleased with, which is not a popular one online, however many times I retweet it, which is a lot. There's one called beef, and it's a horribly tense meal, middle class family. And it's this woman just going, darling, how is your beef? And she just took it. And it's really tense. And I was really pleased with it because you can set the scene quite quickly, go, darling, I'm talking to you.

how is your beef? And it's really tense. And I put a ticking clock in that one in the background. So lame. So lame. Any more props than that, as you say, it's tenet, basically. So I sort of minimise it to as few props as I can. And that was one of them, like a ticking clock.

I've never done that before since. But I said, how is your beat, darling? And then she starts laughing and goes, your father says, for someone who's did communication studies at university, you're not very communicative. And then there's this sort of thing around. she's like, your father saw you in town today. Who was that you were talking to?

And then she goes, if, F you are. Okay. And where's she from? She's from here. And I was really close with it, because I think it's about like generational struggle. Basically, it's this woman who's lost control

of her son who's gone to university and been introduced to new ideas that they've clearly brought him up badly and not told him about the social issue or anything like that. That's kind of the subtext is that she's furious at the world's changing, which is represented by her son's views and her son's hanging around with people who are not white British

and what have you. So she's kind of annoyed at this thing. Did you say that one didn't do as well? It did well, yeah, but not as well as some of the, because some of the others, you get about half a million views or whatever, but that isn't, and the reason for that is it's not, I don't think, touching on a zeitgeist issue or it's not as well. it's not as recognized. The reason something like an inquisitive man does well

is like, oh my God, I know that man. Yeah, yeah. It's about an issue which we're talking about at the moment in public discourse, whereas that one is kind of, it's a self-content. It's basically a short, a kind of short film. I feel like such a wanker. Do you, um, well, for about half hour,

I've been thinking, why don't you just shut your mouth? When something like that doesn't do as well, I say something that you might see as much, I don't, none of the stuff that you do is obvious, but do you know what I mean? Well, of course that did well. Yeah. Do you ever, does it ever change your opinion?

If I think it's good, it doesn't cross my mind that it wouldn't, that it's not good. I do know that sounds terrible, but it doesn't, it does not cross my, I go, oh, they're too thick or like, you know, like, I do think that. I don't, I don't, I don't ever think, oh, God, maybe I did that wrong. don't think that. Does it mean you question yourself? No, if I watch it back and I think it's good, I do honestly, I go, like, for example,

I go, there's no question in my mind that I don't see how it could be better. But I don't, but I don't. Your first ever post that you did on Twitter, so you joined in August 2012. Oh, my God. I didn't know you were going to do this. This is horrendous. 2012, jeez. But you didn't tweet until October the 23rd.

So you obviously joined it, and then you were like, absolutely not hot. And your first ever tweet was, Brian May is on BBC News 24, talking about the badgical at last. This is great. That's not a bad start. That's not a bad start. Do you remember joining Twitter,

and do you know why you didn't tweet for so long? Or do you have no recollection of that at all? No, no, absolutely no recollection of it. No. I go through, I literally go through my tweets and I read like old things and it's like I'm reading a different person speaking. I can't remember joining it. I can't remember what I thought I was doing on it. I can't remember.

And it's really weird actually looking back at that stuff. It's almost like the same site, do you remember when you got a mobile? I don't know. Like I don't face any of that stuff. I go, no idea. It's such an integral part of your sort of what you are now, I guess. your digital life. After you'd done that Brian May tweet,

Brian May slash badger call tweet, you didn't tweet for another month. So you clearly were like, and I'm done. I've done Twitter. Well, when you do a tweet of that quality, you can sit back and have a bit of me time. You can put your feet up for a while.

Also, do you want to know what? Your second tweet was, different vibe. Why do we need DJs in a nightclub to play table tennis all of a sudden, play it properly or fuck off, you bunch of Generation Y, that's range of topics going on the first and second tweet. That's something that annoys me, yeah.

Yeah, clearly. I mean, there's still an issue to me. Yeah, it's like it's a proper sport. Let's not muck about. Absolutely. Shall we move on to your post that you regret? Yes. Is there a post that you've done that you think,

I wish I had not done that? There's a thing with Twitter you go, I'm never sure whether I want to be more restrictive of myself and go, I should actually only, tweet the videos and then you'd have a clean timeline of quality output. But then I go, oh no, just do anything, you know. It doesn't matter. Sometimes I'd do, like, ironically, the most, probably the most views I ever got

in the video was something where I thought, shall I not do that? And I was just in Piccadilly Circus. On the first day of lockdown or second day, not lockdown, sorry. Yeah, first day of lockdown. What's a Piccadilly Circus on the first day in lockdown? Yeah. The worst thing I could admit. Yeah, yeah.

When the whole country complied, I thought, pricks. And so, yeah, so I went down McDonald's. So I went, so I cycled into town, and I was in Piccadilly Circus, and I just made it's like lame joke. I was like, oh, it's not like Piccadilly Circus around here. Just like a nervous thing, and I thought, I'll just put it on my stories. And I thought, oh, I'll tweet it. And then it became this thing, it became this massive thing.

And even now on my social media, I get loads of comments now and again going, Oh my God, I love the Brits' sense of humour. Like, no one of the years yet. And it's the thing where I go, I don't know what it is. I don't regret posting it, but it was just like, guys, I don't know if you've seen beef. Maybe I've re-treated that one afterwards, and people went, nah, I prefer the Piccadilly Circus stuff, actually.

I think it's funny when you do something, and this is, this could be for anything. It doesn't have to be for comedy, but specifically it's quite funny in comedy. Whenever I do live shows, there'll be about three jokes that the audience will laugh at that I didn't actually write as jokes. I just thought there were things happening.

And you're like, oh. It's one of those mysteries. Yeah. I don't understand what people, I don't get it. I sort of almost want to reply and go, what is the funny? I don't get what it is. It's nothing.

It's not funny to me. The person who made it being like, could you explain why that's funny? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were, it's such a shame because if you were a female comic doing those, you'd get loads of men explaining to you why it was a joke. So you'd be able to know. It's so good.

That's why. I never doubt myself now because I'm like, oh, right, that's why I did that. Well, you can have it explained to you. Perfect. Ideal. In that regard, it's weighted towards women, isn't it? In a way, to be honest. Unfortunately, I've got no one explaining it to me.

So you don't know why you're funny. I've got no idea. So the biggest, basically, like, one of your biggest videos is your regretful post because you don't know why it was funny. I find it very difficult to talk. about I once got one and a half million views. I'm sorry. Thank you so much. That was excellent. So fun and so funny and so interesting.

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I think probably only five stars. That would be really helpful. Yeah, you can't do less than five stars. Not anymore. They've changed it. They've changed it. And remember, what should I remember, Gina? Well, you should remember, Stephen,

that social media can be a brilliant place for, you know, getting your workouts or wider audience. It can also be fun for, like, you know, getting drunk on Instagram live. We should do that one time. We should do that. But it can also be a place full of, you know,

hand clapping and saying annoying Twitter things, like normalise this a lot. Like me. But however you feel about it, just normalise the idea of deleting it and taking a break because you might as well just delete later. I feel really sick.

Okay, cool. Bye. Ooh. You know,