Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out - 194. Pete Holmes Returns: Vulnerability is Everything

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

This week, Pete Holmes returns to the studio for one of Working It Out’s most joke-dense episodes ever. Mike and Pete work out jokes about strangers in hot tubs, why Jerry Seinfeld sounds like his own name, and how cool guys in movies swallow their pills without water. Plus, the comedy advice Pete wishes he knew when he was starting out.Want more of Mike and Pete? Subscribe to Working It Out’s premium feed on Apple Podcasts to listen to their bonus episode together where they work out listener-submitted material! Please consider donating to Homeboy Industries Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Have you noticed all comedians are like their name? Oh, that's great. Bill Burr is Bill Burr. Yeah, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Stephen Wright. Jerry, sign phone, sign phone, right, right, Romano, Romano. And then someone yelled out, Barbiglia, and I went, Mike, Berbeglia. Burbiglia is like the sound

A Water Cooler Jug makes That's you It's like kind of needs to be changed That is the voice of the great Pete Holmes Pete Holmes is back Come on Come on everybody In the studio

We've been had Pete Holmes in the studio in years One of my favorite comedians He has a podcast called You Made a podcast called You Made It Weird, one of my good friends. He's been on the show many times. As a matter of fact, if you want to go back and listen, almost exactly a year ago,

we did our favorite Christmas movies as an episode. I think it's a pretty good list. I actually think if you're looking for a holiday movie, go back and listen to that one. It's a good list. Here's what you need to know about these episodes with me and Pete. It's a little bit like listening to a phone call between me and Pete. sometimes we burn each other

we're mean to each other but we love each other that's the key thing I really love this chat that we have to say we actually punch up jokes punch up each other's jokes I think quite effectively we break some ground on some jokes

that you know that were kind of nowhere before the episode so that's great it's exactly the premise of the podcast by the way thanks to everyone who came out last week to me and Jenny's jokes and poems at Joe's Pub in New York City

that's an event that my wife Jenny and I do every few months we're doing another one soon if you want to be the first to know because it's limited you know it's 160 seats at Joe's Pub and so the tickets go really fast if you want to be the first to know about the next Joe's Pub show which is probably going to be

in January text ber Biggs BIRBIGS on your phone to the number 911 444-7-1-5-0 and you'll be the first to know when those tickets go on sale Also, I will be appearing in the Broadway show All Out from January 13 through 18 alongside Cessly Strong and Wayne Brady, all out. I've mentioned this before, but it's a comedy on Broadway written by a great Simon

Rich Roe for SNL, he's written many hilarious books, he's written for The New Yorker, and it's actors, like a rotating cast of actors, I think John Stewart's doing, I think Jim Gaffigan's doing it. I think Abby Jacobson's doing it. It's a great bunch of actors doing it. And then it's all in front of a live band. The band is called Lawrence. It's a band that I really like.

And they're playing their own original songs. So I'm really excited about it. I think you should see it. I know a lot about you, and I do think you should see it. You can get tickets at all-outbroadway.com. Thanks to everyone who signed out for working it out premium on Apple. podcasts. Last week, we released a bonus episode with Pete Holmes where we punch up listeners' jokes. Today we punch up these other's jokes on that episode, punch up listeners' jokes.

If you sign up, you support the show, which we really appreciate, and then you get these premium episodes like the one where me and Pete punch up people's jokes. And you get no ads like on any episode. And this is part of the reason that I have premium on some podcasts that I listen to My wife, Jenny, and I fall asleep to podcasts. We do the setting on Apple Podcasts, which is like play next, play next, play next, play next. And we do it with premium subscription. So there's no ads. So there's not like, hey, rah, get this thing.

I'm not going to say a thing because then it'll alienate the sponsors. But you know what I mean? That's actually the reason why we have premium on one of the things. I love this conversation I have with Pete Holmes today. as I said, he's been on the show a lot of times. We razz each other a bit. We go deep into stand-up comedy philosophy and religion and the religiosity of comedy.

Love talking to Pete. Enjoy my conversation with the great Pete Holmes. So I went on Instagram and I asked people to ask you questions. Because these are, these are. episodes, these Pete Holmes, Mike Barbilla episodes, are highly anticipated. I know. Oh, the thing, a couple things today. One is I want to go over a bunch of jokes. You know, people, sometimes it will make fun of the podcast. That we don't do that enough. We don't do it enough. I claim this show is my own, that we don't do that enough on the show. But then, no, in general, the working out podcast, they're like, it's not enough jokes. And it's like, that you're working out. It's like, well, yeah, because I can't work out my whole hour that I spend years on in every episode. It would just be a skeleton. Yeah, it's just, exactly. Sebastian Menacellent. One time I...

I'm a bag of bones over here. They did him on it. They did Sebastian on SNL last night. They did? Yeah. Oh, nice. That's an honor. It was an honor.

It's an honor. Who did it? It was Marcella Hernandez, did it? He was amazing. I hosted the new faces at Montreal. He was the new face. I love that. And Shane Gillis.

Oh, that's a good one? A lot of heavy hands. Why was that good? It was great. And it was Marcella. And he destroyed, not to, this isn't a long story. And Shane was going last. Jean-Marco Seraci did it as well.

Same situation. Both he and Shane went last on a lineup of killers. Yeah. And then they both, I was like, what are they going to do? Like, I'm starting to bomb. Like the crowd's done. Yeah. You're like, huh, all right, Shane Gillis, I guess.

That's hilarious. He murdered. It's interesting. Yeah, people have said that recently about when Marcello pops into the cellar. Oh, really? It's like that volume level that only like Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle gets where you go, oh, wow, that. That's their 10.

Yeah, that's how loud this room can be. I've been saying that on stage lately. Introducing the idea of the number, I do a little joke up top, and I go, all right, there's your four. There's your four. That's good. And I go, just getting to know each other. There's your four? I don't say there's your 10, but I think it.

Oh, there's your 10. Sure. It's a very, I was going to say it's kind of sexy. There's something sexy about two groups paying that close attention to each other. You know what I'm saying? No, absolutely. Imagine, like, a partner being like knowing you that well. I don't think it's an ego trip.

I think it's generous and beautiful going like, I'm not saying you hit what I consider it for. I'm going, there's your four. There's your four. Got it. There's your 10. We were talking about this recently on the phone. I think it's worth airing out. is airing it out with Mike Brubiglio,

the new podcast. We were talking about the idea of like, you had a show, we won't name the show, but you were like, it was good, but it was like a seven or an eight. And I wanted to be a 10.

Yeah, I couldn't connect. And I have to say, like, I said it then, I'll say it again. Sometimes it's the audience too. Everyone's a part of it. Well, I... If you come in with a seven,

and there are a seven, together you might not get to an eight or nine or a 10, but also you might. Sometimes you might. you're a seven and they're a 10 and we're quick to say that happens. Yep. And sometimes you're a 10 and they're a seven and the show becomes a seven.

Yeah. That can happen too. Yes. Seinfeld and the old school guys are like, don't blame the audience. No, I know. And I'm like, what are you nuts? You think Hendricks didn't sometimes say it was too cold I couldn't keep my guitar in tune? Sure.

A fucking course he did. It's insane. I love Seinfeld. I'm just saying the people that say you can't blame the audience. I don't know, let's take Jerry out of this. I'm just saying, I don't know if they're thinking in the same terms as I am of we're doing this together. We're making this together.

I'm not doing this at you. I'm doing this with you. It's different every time because of you. So, of course, sometimes it's going to be less connected. Yeah. There are certain jokes. So I was in Jersey last night. I tell these jokes about kind of,

there's stories that involve kind of being a little sassy to kids. Yeah. Like a little rough to children. Yeah. And on the East Coast, those jokes murder. They're East Coast jokes. You go to Texas and they love them in Texas too, actually. But there's certain parts of the country where it's a little bit more like,

that's not okay. Like, you can tell. So, is that joke not good or is it just kind of not merging with this group? And why can't I say, I think it's where we are in the country? Yeah. That's my job. Oh, you and I both attach to the same thing from the Eddie Murphy documentary, which I think is worth pointing out, which is there's a point at which he says,

the key thing about artists is their sensitivity and their sensitivity. vulnerability yeah completely i think it couldn't be more true i think a lot of times people miss that yes and he really hangs a lantern on that and i and i and i think especially with him because you're like he does oh he does voices he does characters he's what he does physical comedy he's off the wall yeah but actually it's him being like no no no it's about sensitivity yeah i agree there was this funny buried cat's story that he told my This is a funny story where he goes, where he was representing Chappelle early in his career. Whoops.

And he took him to see like a street performer who did stand-up comedy. Yeah. And that comic did like five hours or something. Wow. And he was like, and he was like, and he crushed, like as a street performer, street comic. And Dave was mad at Barry. And he goes, why would you, why would you? show me to a guy like that like i'll never be able to do that kind of thing yeah and then and then

like the next night barry had that guy at the club and then he put dave on after him or put put that guy on after dave and then that guy said to barry why would you ever have me have to follow that guy yeah i think that's actually a great show business story about like all everyone's relationship to everybody. Well, it's all relative. It's literally relative. Yeah, yeah. It's like this guy is really working in this way. He really sings in this way. It's Michael Jordan playing baseball. You know what I mean? It's okay. Why is it like Michael Jordan playing baseball? He's a better basketball player. So Chappelle was a better basketball player. He didn't want to play baseball. Right. He's a better club comic. Similar thing. Yeah. Very similar.

Similar ball. Put that ball somewhere. It's so funny. You had a different takeaway from that story. My takeaway is, no, no, I think, I actually think it's kind of a... I'm laughing and put that ball somewhere. All sports are, put that ball somewhere where it's not. Volleyball. Get that ball over there. Now, get it back. Pool. Hide all these balls. Basketball. Put it in the peach basket. The, my takeaway from it, but your takeaway is good, too. My takeaway from it is, um, you can't see yourself. That's for sure. You know what I mean? That actually goes back to you and I. He can't, Dave can't tell how great he is.

That guy can't tell how great he is. I think Chappelle's figured it out. That was the other standout in the Eddie Murphy. He's like, I didn't know I was going to be a comedy legend. That's right. And he's like, but I am smoking. It's like, I wouldn't change it for the world. Dave smoking cigarettes in his interview about Eddie Murphy is one of the wildest things

I've ever seen in a documentary. He's actually perfect. He is smoldering. Like when it cuts him and you can't see the cigarette, and there's just smoke coming off of him, you're like, is that just him? You know a block of cheese isn't a multivitamin, right? That's funny. You look like a guy who gets his vitamin D from the light reflecting off of a block of cheddar.

Like, that's what you consider getting outside. It's funny. The mathematics of that joke are great, but I'm not laughing. Because you're thinking about your heart. All right, let me get out of these questions because we asked people on Instagram for questions for you. Since we do this, we do this about once a year. Okay, so this is a question from Jessica Taylor Rabbit.

A lesson you wished you could have learned without having gone through the experience. Feels like a trap. I'm supposed to be like, what? Just jump to the punchline? That's like, what joke would you like to hear without the setup? Oh, really? That's what you think of it is? Where it took me was, you know, the whole point is the experience.

but I think I see what she's saying. Okay, I think I have one. Okay. It's one of the best pieces of stand-up advice I've ever gotten, and it's the advice that I give people, which is put yourself in your audience and ask yourself, when would I laugh? And when I was the first couple years of stand-up,

I did not know the answer. That's what's kind of charming about your first couple years, but that's a hard lesson to learn. When you realize if you were in the audience, you wouldn't laugh. Like you haven't found out how to make yourself laugh yet. I actually think the thing that you're speaking to

is something I think about all the time which is sometimes when people are really good in their 20s at anything, part of it is they haven't developed self-consciousness. That's right. Like my daughter can kind of skateboard because she's seven. Exactly.

Because she doesn't know what falling is. Exactly. Yeah, that's right. But sometimes you see people in their 20s, you go, oh my God. Yeah. They really, they don't even know. what they look like. They don't even know what they're talking about. And you know what lesson

I'm still learning, I'm 46, is, and you're going to think I'm joking, but maybe you won't because you know me. Just because you thought it doesn't mean you have to say it. I'm still, I can count on one hand the number of times I've been like, especially if it's a joke, like it's funny. Yeah. I just say it. But I mean. No, I know you mean. But there's an upside to it. What's that? There's an upside to it when you have no filter. When you're younger, you have no filter, and you go, like some of those jokes are really good.

I wouldn't change it, but I am slowly starting to, like I've been a plane that's like climbing, climbing. I don't mean career or anything. I just mean internally. Well, definitely not career. Sorry, are you rolling? You're like Natman, like Ant Man's buddy. It's like the slant.

slightly more useless, Ant-Man. Are we rolling? Have you ever had kale? Have you considered it? I enjoy a slice of kale every now and then. Is that a type of pie? All right. All right.

So R. Stone 80 asks, what's the funniest joke you've ever discarded because it wasn't authentic to your voice? Great question. You and I've talked about this before. I cut jokes. all the time. This is such a flex that work. And it's because

I think this is fascinating. It's because of how they feel. There's a level of intuition, and it's like looking at your whole show as a piece of feelings. Not just for them, but for you. And I had this joke. We're doing this documentary

called Kill Your Darling's, and it's about cut material. With Judd, right? Judd is involved, yes. And Ricky Cruz. And we're making it together, and I love it. It has all these jokes that I've cut. Because when you write an hour, you write two hours. Yeah, I write five.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. And then you polish it for seven years and then release it on vinyl, I think, for your subscription service, for playable on gramophone only. It's like a hand crank, Mike Babiglia presents. My girlfriend disrespected me. Track one. Hey, everybody.

Have you ever had this situation? on the half train to Coney Island. I'm some kind of old-fashioned. Yeah. You open for Mullaney. He'll be right out, folks. And I think he's got his bag of gags with him. Murder! He comes out.

Give it up a Mikey Babiglia all the way from the trolley to your living room. What's this machine you're playing? You have to crank it. It's a phonograph? Phonograph, sure. So the joke that I cut because of how it feels is I think I stand by the joke.

I go, my mom has a little withered old lady hand. And so she can't point, but she's still out here pointing. She doesn't know. So she'll, we'll be at lunch with her and she'll be like, Pity, sweetie, what is that? What is that? She doesn't know that it's not actually pointing. What is that? She thinks she's doing this.

Yeah, yeah. This is visual. She thinks the finger is extended. She goes, what is this? I go, I don't know, Gonzo's nose. What is it, mom? And it's very funny. to me because my mom is a fierce woman.

Yeah. She's not, you know, Superman's mom. Yeah. She's a broad. She's like a brassy woman. So she's scary. I know this. She's like, Mike, what is that?

What do you think that is? That is the definition of comedy is a high status, snappy granny who can't point, but thinks she can. But I would do it. And when it didn't work, it was too costly. It made me feel like a bad son. Yeah, yeah. So I just cut it.

Yeah, it's an interesting question about that opens up a conversation about, like, comic voice, which is like, there's jokes that are good jokes. Yeah. Set up, punchline, tag, tag, tag, good observation, novel idea. But for whatever reason, out of your mouth, people are like, no. Yeah, it's true. I don't quite buy this. I have a joke.

I just realized this is a right. your alley I think up our alley I have a joke about my daughter and showing her pull my finger and if I don't do the joke before it the pull my finger joke doesn't work as well it makes sense and the joke before it establishes my dynamic with my daughter yeah but sometimes I don't like doing that joke I'm just kind of tired of it so I'll drop it yeah then I'm in the middle of the pull my finger joke and I'm like god damn it like I needed to tell them I'm obsessed here the ingredients I'm obsessed with my daughter my daughter is fierce my daughter sasses me so it's comedy balance it's justice in that joke she sort of sasses me now she's up and pull my finger

i kind of get her it levels things out yeah audiences don't know we probably talked about this on other times we've chatted justice is a big part of comedy so when i'm doing what is this my mom is now down i've taken my mom down i need to it might work better if i tell you about our dynamic and if i tell you about the times that she told me my watch was gaudy or whatever it is then want me to get her back with what is this. But if you just do what is this out of nowhere, it seems cruel. No, I have that even, and thank God for jokes. The final story is about telling like a roast joke about David O. Russell and about

how he walked out of the award ceremony where I told the joke in front of all the stuff. If I tell that joke in isolation, people are just like, what are you, why would you do that? But if you do, I have the whole show is leading toward like, sometimes jokes can be off-putting. Sometimes it's worse than that. Sometimes it's worse than that. And here is the most off-puting it ever was. You've just explained life.

I used to have this joke about my God, you could just say, is unconditional love, right? And I tried to break down that people's God suck. Like your God sucks. Like, for example, you say, fuck and God is mad at you. I'm like, you mean like your manager at Applebee's? I'm like, have a God that's better than your manager at Appleby's, but it's a whole thing.

And then I go, or let's say you do something worse, you cheat on your partner. And I go, my wife cheat on me, my first wife, so I know that sucks. That's horrible. So let's say you did that. What a nightmare. God's mad, right? But what would you do? You'd go out to lunch with your body, Larry, ride or die Larry.

And just like your show that explains that roast joke, you would explain that you had boundaryless parents. You'd uncover that. That love at a certain point started to feel unsafe to you, that it actually felt smothering, like death, that intimacy was death. And then you realize, that's why I did it. I self-sabotage, but it was an outdated survival mechanism.

And Larry would listen. And Larry would understand because he loves you and he gets you. And he took the time to understand. And Larry would forgive you. Larry wouldn't even forgive you. He wouldn't even acknowledge it. That's called mercy.

Have a God that's better than Larry. Could never make that work. I think you could make your work. It's a good point. bro, I tried a hundred times. Really? It'll be in Kill Your Darling's for sure. So it'll live.

Oh, that's interesting. It'll be clicked. So it's going to be in the documentary that you're making about jokes that don't make it into your special. They don't make it to the special. But hundreds of crowds heard that joke. But I think you could get them there.

Because I'm interested. Well, that brings us to the next point. Yeah. Why to cut a joke. I'll give you a better example. I did this joke about fish. It's called The Ambitious Fish. I go, look,

I don't remember how it got into it. but I was like, how did we get here? There's some fish a million, billion years ago, some fucking fish saw a land, an ambitious fish. And then what did you do? Thought about legs?

This is what they're telling. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying how. He thought about legs really hard. After a million years, two little skin tag feet came off and he waddled out onto the land, like said to the other fish,

see you fuckers later. and he left, then he realized he couldn't breathe, had to come back. That was a big part. I go, you realize the first walk ever was a walk of shame. He had to come back like it didn't work. And then he thought about lungs.

After a million years, he grew lungs. He's like, this time for real, and he left, and he grew legs, and he evolved, and that's us. And then I go, what did we do to celebrate our ancestors that gave us this leg, foot, lung technology that we're all benefiting from today. Do we worship them? Do we build monuments to them?

I don't know, we dip their carcasses in soy sauce and we eat them, and that's why I'm worried about AI. Why'd I cut that joke? I love that. Because it's too fucking hard. That joke's too hard to do. I can give you an old punchline if you want it. Okay, I don't think the punchline's the problem.

It's already cut. It's retired. Why is it retired? It's never retired. I actually think at the end of it, you know, and then the fish grew legs and then this and then you go, and you're telling me that the Bible isn't believable? That's very good.

You're telling me it's, I like it. I'll tell you why I would pre-cut that joke as a guy who does spiritual jokes. It's so hard to not, I don't want to bolster a God that I don't support. Sometimes a point like that can be so misconstrued. And I'm like, and you're telling me the Bible's hard to believe? That's why the gays need to keep it

their pants and the fucking, you know what I mean? I feel like. That's how you feel about if someone makes a case for religion, but you always make a case for religion. No, I know and I worry about it all the time, but that's why my act is filthy. It's to go like, don't get me wrong. I'm the same guy. If it was squeaky clean and then I was like, God loves you, he'd be like, yeah, but you

want me to like stop masturbating or something? Right. But you're like, this guy, this is what all my fans say, this guy's jerking it. Wait, why? I love, I forgot this about you. What? You're a great listener, and I lose you all the time. It's like flying a kite.

Every once in a while, I just feel the breeze goes, oh, I think it's coming to the ground. And I see it on your face. I just didn't get it. Okay. Okay, let me get to it. Play the tape back. You'll get it.

This guy's got to listen to his own podcast. D. Whip Art says, does Pete come? to your podcast preloaded with insults, or do you let them fly? I let them fly. I'm sorry, but you don't have to write material about Mike Barbiglia. That's fair.

Yeah. Although I... I did feel today coming in, when we had coffee, I was like, you look good. Last time I did the podcast, I was like, oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, you worry for me sometimes. A little bit.

Yeah. Well, most of your one-man shows are like, here's how I almost die. It turns out you're not supposed to have pork fat with your eggs. Whoops. I heard you did an impression of me at New York Comedy Festival. I did. By request.

Oh, by request. Did someone tell you that? No, no. Because I have a bit. Camilla Calderon. I've run this bit by you because we work it out in real life. I have this joke about how I went to school with 300 Bill Burrs. That's what it's like going to school in Boston.

And then I go, one Bill Burr, pretty good time. 300 guys all like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I go, not a chill learning environment. I like that bit, though. That bit goes into, have you noticed all comedians are like their name?

We've talked about this. Oh, that's great. Bill Burr is Bill-Ber. Yeah. Bill, Bill, Bill, Burr. No, I'm serious. Bill Burr. Bill Burr.

Stephen Wright. Jerry, sign phone. Sign phone, right, Romano, Romano! And then someone yelled out, Barbiglia. And I went, Mike Berbeglia, what I should have was nothing. And you are Mike Barbigleying at Sebastian Manascago. Yeah. Manascaucco.

Is the sound an alien would make if they were trying to classify what they were looking at? If they didn't know his name and they were watching it, they'd go, like, that man, a scalken guy. Yeah. It's perfect. Everybody's perfect for what they are. Were they born into these names? Melaney. How Malaney is Malaney?

Very Malaney. Melanay. If he was John Mulroney. But like chicken or the egg, like what came first? They were named. and then they grew into their name. And they're all their face too. Bill Burr's face is those bits.

Yeah, yeah. This guy's going to the laundromat. Play that for a police sketch artist who's never seen him. Yeah. He's drawn Bill Burr. Play Stephen Wright for a sketch artist that's never seen him. He's drawn Stephen Wright.

Yeah. Stephen Wright, because we all look in the mirror, it's like being backstage. Yeah. And we go, all right. Okay. Yeah. And you go out and I act like this face.

I act like the name Pete. You act like the name Mike. Yeah. You act like Berbeglia. You are Berbiglia. Burbiglia is like the sound, a water cooler jug makes. That's you. It's like kind of needs to be changed.

Blah blahler. Blah blah blah. I was going through my notebook today. I was like, I'm going to run this by Pete. I was in a hot tub at a hotel in Florida. And this guy, the stranger asked me what I do. I go, usually I don't say this, but I go, I'm a comedian. And he goes, I got so many jokes.

And I thought, great news. I go, what kind of stuff? You didn't. I did. True story, true story. I wrote this all down. What kind of stuff? I just found this in my notebook.

You know, how something is you forget what you're written down. You go, this is actually kind of. a great story. I think this all the time. Yeah. I go, what kind of stuff? He goes, well, for starters, my wife hates jokes. That's not a joke. Yeah. But sure. Also, no one hates jokes. If you're doing it and they're not enjoying it. And I thought, I don't even know your jokes and I don't know your wife, but I probably agree with your wife. It's like my wife hates cookies. I keep putting baking soda in them. lots of baking soda and salt and she just doesn't like them

I go so what are some I literally repeat it go what are some of your jokes I was just like really where's this going yeah yeah he goes here's one of my jokes

this is called entrapment you're a police officer just put the gun there I just I was like if he touches it I don't know I'm convinced this could be a bit yeah because I was reading this morning I was like okay so I go

what was one of those jokes he goes I was at one of those hardware stores at the checkout and the girl asked me for my number to type into the computer she said what's your number and i said what's your number right the image that goes in my mind is me jumping off a clip oh god yeah i mean what's your number what's your number and then he goes i was with my kids and they're like and they walked away because they get embarrassed when i do this Can I say the joke is, you be the cashier. I already said it, but I want to deliver it.

Can I get your number? It's a little personal. Yeah, that's nice. It's the same mechanism. Yeah, yeah. People ask for phone numbers. Without being, without being creepy. You're keeping it on you.

Yeah, yeah. And you're making them, you're including them. It's fun now. Now your kids aren't embarrassed. I also, and I wrote, I also feel like I might get along really well with his wife. You're my least favorite member of your family, and these are optimal. conditions. We're in a hot tub. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. And you're the only one

I've met. Yeah, exactly. That could be a bit, right? Sure, yeah. How does it become a bit, though? Because I actually think, like, it runs the risk of the thing you're saying, which is being kind of so critiquey of this stranger that you're like... Well, a good test is, would Robin Williams, like, take a hero of yours, would they say it? I'll be Robin Williams.

Well, if he saw another comedian do it. Very good. And it worked? very good. Rest in peace, Robin. I love Robin. Don't add that. I love Robin. Don't add that.

Rest and peace. Own what you're doing. Own it. Own what you're doing. You travesty. Okay. No, no. Do, can I have your number?

Oh, sir, can I have your number? Can I have your own number? He wouldn't do it in a million years. Now do mine, as Robert. Sir, can I get your number? That's a little forward. I don't know. We just met.

All you know about me is I love baking soda. That's good. That's good. kids aren't walking away now. That seems good. Do maybe Vince Vaughn. Okay, can I get your number? Oh, can I have your number?

Give me your number. I like you. He wouldn't do it. Even Vince Vaughn. Close call. Closer call. Let's do it the other way. Okay.

Can I get your number, sir? That's a little forward. I feel like I don't even know you. I came in the store. That's good. All you know is I don't want a receipt. Now you think we're going to go on a date? I don't think we're going to date.

What's going to happen? We're going to get, we're going to break up, come back to the shop and save. Now I see you, it's awkward? I don't know. I need food more than I need a relationship right now. This is very good. First of all, this is great vocal work.

So if you're auditioning for voiceovers, this is... I would have been... If S&L was a radio show, I would have been booked. But you're critiquing, not my joke. You're critiquing this guy's joke. I'm trying to help his joke by saying we all have access to the same avatars. My question is, should I do this bit? I think you're saying no.

I like it fine. You like it okay. Okay. You know what it's missing? And I don't know why? I want some sort of thesis, some sort of, and this is the joke of mine that it made me think of.

When I'm trying to access compassion for Trump, I imagine him trying on sunglasses. Okay, why? Because everybody is so vulnerable when they're trying on sunglasses. There's that little fucking carousel and everyone's tried them and everyone's touched them. You put them on and there's that little square mirror

and you're like, I don't know, is my head big? Do I have a big head? Like, it's just, it sweetens him up just a little bit. Or putting on his socks in the morning before he's gotten into character. Yeah. And he's just like, huh. Like, I'm not saying. Before he's gotten into character.

You know he gets in character. No, he is like a WWE character. He doesn't feel that way all day. Can I run a couple other jokes by you? Yes. I live in Brooklyn with the other middle-aged dads. Being a dad is so different in this era. When I was a kid, my dad was like the owner of a restaurant that was my family.

Yeah. showed up when he wanted, disappeared for a few weeks, was nicer to the customers than the staff. That's very good. We knew he was close when the jingle of keys was heard. He'd open up the shop. And then I wrote, Dad's, in my lifetime, dads went from being the monsters in Pixar movies

to being the little bird that flies ahead and goes, is everything okay? Yeah, I like that. Dads used to be terrifying and now we're meek. We're all just so afraid. We don't even know what we're afraid of. Yeah. Yeah.

I like we used to be the monsters, and now dads are... I think you're pulling your punches a little bit on that one. Oh, really? I think you know what you're afraid of. Oh, interesting. I think you know. I'm afraid of my wife leaving me? No, it's the burden of...

I am trying to answer your question in a real way. What's the fear? What's the real fear? had real conversations about how, and I think it's a beautiful endeavor, but there's a new burden on the father as the wife's best friend. The everything. The partner, the lover, the teacher, the dad, and the earner. Yeah. Not always there. Everybody earns, I'm just saying you're also expected to work. All the things at once. Everyone's all the things at once. Everyone's all the things at once. Yeah, yeah, that's the modern paradigm. We're all iPhones with too many apps. Yeah, yeah,

that's right. And in the 80s, it was a landline and dad didn't answer. half the time. That's exactly right. Yeah. Maybe that, maybe I should try that. I just think you know what you're afraid of. Maybe that is the joke. Yeah.

Too many apps. Yeah. The apps thing. Yeah. So we're doing nine things badly. We're all, right. We're all these modern parents are these iPhones who have way too many apps.

And when I was, when we were a kid, it used to be just a land. Yeah. A dad with a landline. Yeah. And a lot of times he wouldn't pick up. And all I'd say is,

all I'd say is, all right, I'll let you go. That's all I'd say. Or it's also another metaphor is the computer and, you know, like, it's all chunked and you're like, why, and you realize Photoshop is open? That's right. It's a RAM issue. That's very good, too. Do you ever perform at MIT? No, no, that's good, though.

Sorry, I'm not giving you a proper laugh, but it's because I'm thinking about what you're saying, I think, is a better analogy to modern parenting. Which is to say that modern parenting is overwhelming. It really is an app. It really is a phone with too many apps. Or to your point, it's a desktop computer that's running Final Cut and Photoshop and Adobe at the same time. And it's doing a software update.

Exactly. You're like, what the fuck? You know what that makes me think of is I've tried, I can't quite get people on board with how dumb I think it is that we're all, like on the subway coming here today, everybody's just looking at their phones. And a shocking number of people are watching videos

just with volume. Oh, it's amazing. And I'm like, the closest I could get to helping people understand how upset this makes me, is I'm like, in the 80s and 90s, in a movie, if you wanted to have it set up that someone was going to die, but you don't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would show them flipping channels.

Yes. In their apartment, in a white undershirt, just like, they can't even focus on a channel. Godzilla's going to step on this guy and you're going to cheer. You are exactly right. That's how you let everyone go, like, this isn't a contributor. No. This guy can't even focus on television. Right.

So the modern comp is going to be someone's scrolling no headphones on. It's all we do. Yeah. It's what used to be. You're like, that guy is going to die in the second act. The way you knew he was going to die. Yeah, yeah. Now it's the only entertainment is flipping around.

That's a great bit. Thank you. I haven't even looked at my bits. I had one open. Do you want to hear it? Yeah. What do you got? Have you noticed in movies all the cool guys swat?

their pills without water. That's right. Why is that cool? Yeah, why is that? We're such pack animals. We're still animals. And we go, leader is moist. Yeah.

Leader doesn't need liquid to swallow his food. That's right. Leader doesn't need liquid. Yeah. No, somehow. Somehow. Why is that cool? You have a headache?

Denzel, popping pills. Ibuprofen? Yeah, no water. No, there is something to do that in, whenever I see that in movies, I go, I've never seen that. I've never seen anyone do that. I'm telling you, eyes that are moist, skin that's moist, throat that's moist.

We want wet people. Have you done that bit? Yeah, a lot of these are like bits that work, but they don't really go anywhere. I feel like if you paired that with three other things or two other things to make a triplet that is like cinematic coolness. Like, I think you could get to the heart of something, which is if you have. the pills with no water, the this, the this, you could get to this idea of like, that we're all kind of, or you're striving for cinematic coolness.

And then it's like, well, why? It's always like the why. Yeah. So I just made a note. It pairs with an old joke about I had, which is called Quiet as Cool. Yeah. And it's Denzel.

It's also a movie thing. Yeah. Cool people are always quiet. They're like, that's you. That's you. That's you. That's you. Yeah.

All right. And what's a, and I go, that's because in a pack animal situation, you're in the jungle, you're in the woods, you don't want to give away your position. Think of a dork. What are you guys doing? You just gave away predators now know where we are.

That's why the alpha's like, are you good? Are you good? He's taking his pills dry. Like Richard Geer in the 90s, remember when it was cool to just be like, how you doing? Raspi. So in the case of that,

your two examples, speaking low, taking pills without water, there are two examples of and if you had a third yeah you could all pair this together into things that you are not yeah that's right and that's the note I would give you

as I'm like how does this tie to you I'm loud I'm dry yeah but I think like it's worth digging into if you want to go real personal on this yeah like you're someone who and I know that you're obsessed with movies

you know movies really well you did that whole Batman sketch series that was really good and you've Your voice was good. Thank you. H&L was never interested. You auditioned, right?

Malini was working there, and I was like... You audition when Melanie's working there? No. I just remember feeling... I didn't ask Malini to help me, but I remember dropping my envelope off at 30 Rock. Submission, yeah. To like, not even the S&L people.

To no one. It was a human paper shredder. It was a paper shredder. I'm Jim. things up. Hi, where's the paper shred, where I have my submission for Saturday Live?

It was a DVD. I don't even remember what was on it. Probably just stand up and some sketches. We just went to 30 Rock because that's where there was a juice press. And I was like, Val,

that's where I handed it. And it was just the Bellman. Yeah. It was not, I was like, will you give this to SNL? Yeah. Is Mr. Michael's in? Clearly to no one.

And I was like, I know Malini is up there. And in my mind, he's just smoking a cigar going like Ha ha! Pete's probably heading in an envelope. What a sucker. Wait, so hold on,

to go back. I know you're obsessed with movies. Yeah. Those are two good examples of things that you are not. Yeah. In movies. Yeah. I feel like there's something more there. A third? It's like a third thing. But also it's the larger question, which is

like, how are you never going to be the thing you grew up wanting to be. Well, it's also if they're very still is the third one. I don't know if it's funny. Can I make it out? Yeah. Although Denzel does like interesting acting.

We've probably talked about this on this podcast too where he's always like, all right, all right. Yeah. All right. You know, I can't do it. No, he, but there's a lot of people. Denzel is one of these. And then when he's still, you're like, oh shit.

You know what I mean? because he's like water and then when the water gets still it's like the quiet before the storm well there's like five movie stars like that in the world and he's one of them where he's my favorite where when they do

almost nothing it's pretty interesting well that's what Paul Bettney did my podcast and he said that was his advice for acting he was like do less do less and he was like that scene where you found out your dad died

I was so moved and he was like watch it again I'm doing nothing that's how I always feel when I watch Tom Cruise. I go like, when people say like, oh, Tom Cruise, he's not really doing much, it's like, well, you do it. You do it.

You try that. That's right. To go back to the bat, I do think there's a vulnerability. To go back to, we're talking about vulnerability is everything. To go back to vulnerability of like, like, I grew up watching Denzel and Brad Pitt,

and they were quiet, and they didn't take water with their pills. and somehow I ended up being this. You know what I mean? Because it's the opposite of what we're watching. That's right. We've been watching a town hall in New York City. We've been watching a half hour of a clown.

Of a ham. Yeah, yeah. Wetter than a town. And then you're talking about these people who you aspire to be. And you're clearly not those people. I think there's a lot there. There's more there. It's Pichita, too.

All train departments smell vaguely of shit. Mm-hmm. It gets you, you don't mind it. This is great. But I think, by the way, good excuse to do the impressions. No, I know. The thing that drives me crazy is when impressions do bits and they're not bits, they're just an excuse to do it, yours is a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's hard is, what I've noticed, and this is real inside baseball, I'm going to give myself that note, is when I'm performing, you ever go into a, that's my tone. Yeah. And then you have to stop, relax. Now you can do Kermit. You have to, if you're doing that thing, it doesn't. it doesn't work. Same with any voice you're doing. You have to like reset.

I never heard an impressionist talk about that. If you're orating and then you want to do Pacino, you have to stop. You have to drop it. Be yourself and then go. Stop being a stand-up. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird.

That's boring unless it's really interesting. No, I think it's pretty interesting. If you're interested, you're probably a performer trying to do impressions in your act. Okay. This is a bit that I've had that I think is funnier than. You ever have this with a bit? You go, I know this is funny.

The audience and I have not clicked on this. But I've talked about this with comedian friends. And I'm like, I talked about this on the Gary Goldman episode. I'm going to predict it. I'm about to fix this bit. That's what you do for the sizzle. I'm going to fix this bet. Tonight at 8.

What's painful for me about being a bad athlete is that I'm competitive. I'm a fierce competitor who loses. Okay, the way I would say that is, I'm a really competitive person. You don't know what a disappointment it is to be fiercely invested in winning. And God made you like this. That's funny. You know what I mean? Like I kind of would flip it.

That's good. I'm really competitive. I want to win. The only problem is I have no talent. Right. I have no athletic ability. And this is my physique. Yeah, yeah, this is what I have.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so then I have a... I feel like the loser is the unsung contributor to sports. Someone has to lose, and I've been willing to do it for 47 years. I think you're onto something there too, but it's like,

I think people give losers a hard time. You're winners. You don't exist without me. Yeah. I'm your God. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm the might. Michael Jordan of losing.

Right. You know? Right. And everybody puts us down. Michael Jordan of losing is very good. It's a good turn of phrase. They like walk around and they're like fucking losers. If I hadn't shown up, you wouldn't have known you were a winner.

It's like there's going to be a documentary called The First Dance. It's me with braces. The first dance. Yeah, yeah. It's me with braces trying to jump from the free throw line. Making it two feet throwing the ball into the crowd. It's pretty funny. I like it.

The first dance. The first dance. It's a little late. It's me slow dancing with my wife, with braces. I mean, I think there's something really funny and actually kind of profound about it, which is Hollywood is only people telling each other they matter. You know, like, I'll tell you you're real. That's what a lose, the person who loses the game is the person who says you won the game. I think there's something really invaluable to that.

I think so too. If I wasn't there, you wouldn't have known. It's if a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound? Yeah. If no one's there to hear it. If Michael Jordan slam dunks a basketball, but there isn't the mix or whoever the bad team. If Bill Lambeer wasn't there to be dunked on, would anyone have been dunked on? Kid should have posters of bad basketball player here.

That's funny. Yeah. But that's who you should be worshipping. That's right. Michael Jordan should be writing handwritten thank you cards to the, the Detroit. And so then I have, it's not easy losing. You have to get out of bed every morning and put your pants on one leg at a time. And then sometimes that first leg won't go on because you folded it weird the night before. So it's like the leg part is inverted. And then you

punch through it like in a karate class. And then you try to put on the other leg and you realize that accidentally you left a pen in the pocket. And so now it's like blue and splotchy. And you throw on a shirt that shrunk in the wash so your belly is protruding. Yeah. Just the slightest bit, which is a metaphor for the wrestling match you're about to lose. And then the final line is losing doesn't happen in a moment. It happens all day. You need to know when you see a kid lose a wrestling match, he also missed the bus. That's great.

Losing is a mindset. Yeah. You know, you claim it. Yeah, yeah. It's not just something we do on the court. It's something we do all day. We do it all day. Every day.

It takes who we are. You need to say like a coach. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I want you to get up dreaming about losing. That's right. Can you tell me the joke you were about to say? Yes. So it's a story.

It's a true story. So it starts with this observation. I go, like, I think it's so funny when you go to Canada, they act like it's like a real thing. they're like there's like customs and passports there's a big line you have to wait in they scan your bag again and i'm like it's like you're we're touching america and can are touching it's too close it's like going up into your attic and there's a cop that's like slow down for hold on i'm like move aside ketchup chips i'm coming in so that's the first part it's fine and then i go uh

i'm going to tell you every part of the story there's definitely parts we could cut i was traveling back and forth to Toronto, like four or five, six times. My body was wrecked. I needed a massage so badly. My friend Natasha Lagero, who was also in this movie, said, you should go to this massage place that's right by her house. That's important. A woman vetted it. She went, I said, it's not like a weird place.

She was like, no, it was wonderful. It's like, great, I'm dying for a massage. I go in, doesn't seem fishy at all. It's nice. Go in the room to eat. You take off all your clothes, they take off all your clothes, but it's normal.

Get on the mat or the table. And I was like, she was dressed a little sexy. She wasn't dressed super sexy. It could have been like a normal, just like a sexy person. And the way that I started to put together that it might be untoward,

it might be a handjob place. Well, she, I think this line is great. She was very cavalier about not covering my naked ass. She kept like, and my ass. would just be out. Yeah. So I had open-air hams.

She just kept like, she wants to do my leg and the whole ass out works the leg. Ass is just out. Yeah, yeah. Just left it out. Yeah.

And my, you know, I'm like, early red flag. She can see Huey Lewis in the news. They're being squished. It's that rare, rarely seen. She can see Huey Lewis in the news. Dick on bottom. Oh, God.

But she's giving me, this is key, the best massage I've ever gotten in my life. It was unbelievable. It was a, little central, like everyone's one else should scratch or something you're not supposed to do. And I start praying, don't ask me if I want to hand you. I've never been asked in my life, except one other time in Amsterdam. But this is, you know, Toronto.

Yeah. Like, please, because it's so good. I'm like, I will come here every day, literally, because it's like 50 bucks if you don't do this. It's like ending a date with, can I tell you about my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? Like, don't ruin this. Right. She flips me over. Now she's very cavalier about letting my dick come out.

Oh. Like, just every once in a while. Now, I'm happy about this. Here's why. Because I'm flaccid. I'm so flaccid. Flaccid and proud. So proud to be flaccid.

I go, bro, I'm the Elvis Presley of not getting an erection. I have never gotten an involuntary erection in my life. Every erection I've ever gotten is the two. key simultaneous turn executive order. Wow. The Siegfried and Roy of keeping it loose on there. Bro, the lesser comedian, I think, would say sometimes even when I want one, I don't, but I think that's implied.

I'm telling you, I'm soft and I'm proud. It's implied. Do you do that part as part of the vet? I should. Because that's funny. I think that's implied. I think that's implied. But I'm saying the flaccid is the no.

You know what I'm saying? It's a hard no or a soft no. That's very good. So she didn't speak English very well, and she pointed at my penis, and she went, do you want here? Oh. She didn't say all those words. Okay, sure, sure. This is the part where it gets tense.

I'm like, I'm not saying everybody sounds like this. Right. This woman said it like this. She went, you want this? She didn't even say all those words. She went, want this. And I said no. I was like, no, thank you.

And I'm like, fuck. And she was like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. And I'm like, no, it's okay. But in my mind, and this is the kind of people, I think we both are, the massage was so good. I was rehearsing my compliment because I had been to the four seasons three nights prior, and her massage was 10 times better

than the four seasons massage. And that's what I was going to tell her. Because this little dingy place, I couldn't wait to tell this woman. Right, fantastic. Thank you so much. You're incredible. What a talent.

What a talent. Yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to be Mr. Rogers. I'm just saying I couldn't wait to brighten her day, hopefully. And just be like, you're fantastic. And then she said that. I'm like, no, now she seems embarrassed, but she keeps doing it. It's still fantastic.

Then she leaves. And I'm like, I'm still going to tell her my 10 times better than the Four Seasons compliment. Yeah. I go out, she's not there. She's gone. Then I go up to like the madam. I don't know, the manager. Okay, sure.

And the only way I can communicate to this woman, how amazing she was, was to tip her. So I tipped 100%. It was 70 bucks. Wow. I tipped 100, I gave 140 bucks. And then I realize everyone in the waiting room just thinks that guy just got the hand. Yeah, that's right.

That's right. It's confirmation bias. The woman was like, oh. I was like, I want to tip 100%. She was like, wow. And all the guys in sweatpants that were waiting were like, class act, bro. Oh, my God. I'd also like to point out when I went in, a couple was leaving.

What did they have done? And at the end of you going nuts like this? Yeah. You said to the audience, and I'm trying to be like Denzel. Denzel would be like, no, no, no, no. You want to do that? No, no, maybe. I don't know what he would do.

Here's what I'll say about the Denzel Brad Pitt, like, sort of like, I want to be a movie sort of thing. I think that if you can get that working, I actually think I could call back all over the show. And the reason why I think that is that all these stories. stories like you in the massage parlor are you being insane and big yeah and then you i think you can always go back to the movie stars i can't picture denzil turning down a hand job you want to hear my one-a-i bet i haven't tried it's like a one-liner there's you can get really worried about and you know how i comfort myself this is real i go please be a y2k please That's a great joke.

Can it just be a Y2K? Please be a Y2K. Please. It's great. How happy would you be if in five years we were like, it was a Y2K kind of thing? It's not going to make movies. It didn't do anything. It's not going to replace our family members.

It stopped where it was. That's great. Please be a Y2K. Oh wait. I actually have something on the heels of the Canada thing, which is I think to make the Canada thing augmented a little bit, I would say we think that Canada. is our attic. And they think we're the basement. It's a haunted basement. Yeah, yeah, the haunted basement. And no, and so no one's on the ground floor. Yeah, it's like here. Exactly. Because I think like the Canada thing, like, I mean, I've played there a bunch in the last year. They like it there. Yeah, but I think like acknowledging also that we're the basement is not, it's a nice, not. Yeah, yeah.

Or your flooded basement. Because I do, yeah, I, we're your flooded basement. Don't go down there. I love that. One time I was approached by a sex worker in the hotel lounge in Minnesota. I don't know for sure, but this woman started talking to me at a hotel bar when I was grabbing a chicken sandwich to go. And I don't know for sure, but we were talking. And then she was right next to my face. And then out of nowhere, she goes, you're left-handed, huh?

and I go, yeah. And she goes, I've never understood that. And I go, yeah, I don't know. And then I left. We didn't have sex, but in a way we did because we participated in an awkward conversation, which is a type of intimate act. Yeah.

This is the part that's the joke, actually. That part's just really the setup. It seems like I'm a prime candidate it for sex work clientele because I'm sort of boring looking and it seems like I could use a jolt. Yeah. You do look like a guy that coffee doesn't work on.

That's a good tag. You look like a haggard salesman that took the train, the local. And then I wrote, but I guess I had never been given an angle like that hot take she had on being left-handed. And then I wrote this and I wonder whether if we had had sex

there would have been a moment where she goes, now do it with your left hand. And I'd be like, I knew there was a spark. Yeah. Yeah, I was waiting for left to come back. Yeah.

It's a way, by the way, it's a way too long bit for how much of a joke is there. There's not much there. I'll just do it. I'm just going to do that. You're going to do the me?

Yeah, yeah. No, I'll do it as me. Oh, as you. Okay. What's the first line? I've never been. I was approached by a sex worker at a hotel bar.

As a hotel bar, I think I was approached by a sex worker. At least I think I was. I can't be sure because we didn't have sex. I didn't know if she was working. But I was ordering a coffee and I turned around and she's right there, which doesn't normally happen. And she said, are you left-handed? I can't do it.

I can't make it funny. Okay. I respect that. I respect that. You were trying to cut words and you weren't cutting words. And I was like, you're in trouble. I know. That was interesting, though.

It's a good exercise. I've never done someone else's bit and gone like, there's nothing in this room. I don't think for you, I think you could do it. Maybe. It's been in my notebook for a little bit. And she said, are you left hand? And I was like, I guess this woman's taking some sort of survey.

Then I said no. And she said, I've never really understood handedness. I find this hurtful. It is hurtful. I find this impression hurtful. I find this hurtful. Okay. Have you been outside? I was with you outside moments ago.

The final thing we do is working out for a cause. Although in this case, there's going to be a little bonus thing for the premium subscribers where PD and I work out jokes. If people are subscribed to the premium feed, they can hear us working on the jokes of people, listeners of the show, sent in the audio of their jokes. We're going to punch them up. Oh, I can't wait. That's in the premium. So the final thing we do is working out of our cause. In the past, you've contributed to Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles, which is a great,

a great organization. And I'm assuming you'll say, again, it just so happens. Kismet, I contributed to them last time. Their mail just showed up today. Really? Yeah. Literature is great. I love Homeboy.

I recommend he has a new book, Father Greg Boyle, the founder, has a new book called Cherished Belonging. I listened to his books before I do. stand up because I find opening my heart is more important than like rehearsing the words. That's beautiful. And he opened nothing. It's like he casts a spell. It's not religious.

I mean, there's some religious language, but it's very, it's for everybody. That's great. It's very Mr. Rogersy in that way. It might mention the existence of some sort of God, but it's very beautiful and anybody will enjoy it. And Homeboy Industries, if I'm not mistaken, employs people. who were formerly in prison. Yeah, it's the largest gang rehabilitation program in America,

and it's really putting into practice the idea of unconditional love, and it'll floor you. That's fantastic. It's like, what if we tried that? What if we really tried that? All right. Blow you away. I think it's beautiful.

We'll contribute to them. We'll link to them in the show notes. And we're going to record some stuff right now and have it on the other side. Working it out because it's not done. Working it out because there's no...

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