Mike Ward Sous Écoute - #523 - Rachelle Élie et Martin Cloutier

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

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here is Mike Ward, under listening! Thank you! Good evening! Welcome to Mike World's Eardrums. I want to thank my new manager, the permanent Solange, who gave me a haircut for tonight. No, thank you for being here.

Yann, I'm coming back from vacation. Yeah. I went to check how I was tanned. It doesn't look like it, but I was tanned. For real, when I came back, I was in the South. I was tanned for four days, then I came back dry, dry, dry. So my skin just... I became white again. Krem, you've been on a lot of trips this year, I think. Every time I get here, you come by plane.

Really? Yes, yes. Was it Jamaica? What was it before? Before Jamaica... I don't remember my last trip. I went to Florida during the holidays. Ah, ok. Before, you know, at the time we could still go to Florida. Yeah, that's it. So it's my first trip in 2025.

Is that the one with Fallu? I saw pictures with Fallu. Yeah, that, yeah, yeah. If you saw pictures... Did you think it was a green screen? You were like, what? It's really funny, he must be from Mel's. I saw he was with you somewhere, but I didn't know if it was... I rented a house in Jamaica.

Me, my wife, and some family, and a couple of friends. And you know, Falou is family because of his son, he's my son. Wow! And that's it. So there was, yeah, we were a nice little gang. It was really cool. Every time I go to the South, after four days in the East, I want to buy something. And I really had the time.

You know, let's say when there's a French person speaks to you, I get a little annoyed sometimes, or an American, they say, Hey, you're from Canada, I can't pronounce the accent, but you're from Canada? Hey, I have a cousin, Jerome, do you know him? You must know him. And you're like, well, yes, but... No, but I did that to a guy, you know, because I have family in Kingston, and I met a man, and the man starts talking to me, and then I ask him where he comes from, and he tells me he comes from Kingston. And I did that to Stee. I did, hey, do you know my cousin?

And he really did like a, Stee, well no, I don't know my cousin? And he really did like a... Ah, come on! Well, no, I don't know your cousin. And then he said, what's your family name? And I said my family name. Well, I said Ward. And he did... Because Ward is a very popular name in Jamaica. He said, no, the only Ward I know is Cecil.

And it's the name of my cousin. So I did a slap, it's my cousin. And he was like, oh yeah, he's the one who gave me the plant. So the house I had rented, there was a plant that belonged to my cousin. And I was happy to meet my cousin's friend. But I asked the gentleman, I said, don't tell my cousin that I'm in Jamaica. When I went out in Teval, I said, okay, it's funny that I'm going to Jamaica for family and my real family. I didn't say I was there. But no, it was fun.

And I had... Yann, I'm going to talk to you. I feel like I'm really frozen. Yann, I wanted to talk to you. They just sold tickets for a new festival. There's a new Mour festival in Quebec, on June 13, 14 and 15. You know, Mour festivals often have, let's say, one evening, you like the head of the poster, the second night, you're like, no, not really. There, it's all amazing. It's called the Modest Festival.

The first night, it's me. The second night, it's me. The third, in any case, there are five shows in three days, it's just me. And the last show was a sub-listener. So he's going to have... For the world, it's in the Halle-Albert-Rousseau in Quebec. We didn't know what we were going to do. We were going to call it a residence or something. We decided to call it a festival.

And he's going to have... We're going to have... I don't know if we're still booking it, but Pépé and his guitar, and Daniel Grenier, who are going to do the outside entertainment. I want them to have the festival feeling. So when you arrive, they're going to have food trucks, they're going to have an outdoor stage with Pépé, to have a vibe of feeling. Gilbert is going to be a little bit of a do-it-your-own in the feeling. Gilbert will give you a little bit in the line up.

Now, the tickets, we have a sale just for the Patreons. So if you are a member paying for the Patreons for the next 48 hours, you can buy tickets. And the way it works for the tickets, I don't know how many tickets, but it takes the festival's pass for the under-ears. So anyway, I don't even know how it works. So go to www.micworld.ca, click on one of the links and you'll know. Or even, you told me, Yann, the link shouldn't even be on www.micworld.ca. It must be on our Patreon. Well, I saw the publication, in any.ca, it should be on our Patreon.

I saw the publication, I saw a notification on your Patreon. It's on Patreon. So go on Patreon, you will find it. And we will really do it like a festival. The last day of the festival, we will put the prize of revelation back. It will be me. I will be a revelation. I will be a jury choice. I will be everything. I will be the one who will win everything.

Daniel Grenier, we will put him in nomination. Same thing, but... I will win everything and Daniel will be in Tabarnak. And I will... yes, that's it. I wasn't going to talk about it, but I'm nominated for the Olivier de l'année. So thank you, thank you very much. Bravo! It's the 9th time I'm nominated for this prize, which is a record.

And I lost it 6 times, which is also a record. So if you're tempted to go vote, don't vote for me. There are lots of people. There's Arnaud Solis, Mona de Grenoble. It's all good people. Kat Lavac, Rose Ali Vaillancourt. It's all people who deserve to lose. So go vote.

No, that's it. Congratulations Mike. Thank you, thank you. I wasn't going to talk about it and I said I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it, but it's always weird to say to people, go vote. Because after, if you lose, you're not only lost, but you've been voting and you're lost. And you didn't even rally people. You're a loser, you can't rally anyone. Honestly, vote or not, I don't care. My life is going well. I'm coming from Jamaica, I'm a happy man.

And I'm going to introduce my guests. One of my guests tonight, who is nominated for revelation to Olivier. And the other one, he wasn't eligible this year. It would be weird if he was a revelation, because it's been a long time since I've done that. Ladies and gentlemen, here are Rachel Ellie and Martin Cloutier! How are you? Thank you for being here. It's so nice to see you. You arrived with your little champagne flut. Well, he wanted to give it to me after. I was like, no, I'm going to go home with it. I didn't drink for two weeks and I'm a little nervous too.

I wanted to be a little drunk. Is there a reason why you haven't drunk since two weeks? No, I just think I can drink every night, like in our industry. So I sometimes try not to drink. And I really wanted to drink tonight. So I said, OK. I count my calories too. Oh yeah, that's true. OK. Well, yes, because you're a celebrity now.

Yes, it's been a year now, after 27 years, since I've been with the same penis. That's what I'm saying. I don't date, but there's a guy who does Ramadan. He said, I'm going to do Ramadan on me, I'm not going to sleep, I can't sleep with you for a month. And I was like, OK, well, you do Ramadan, I'm going to pick up men. I do Ramadan. Ramadan. So there, I didn't know that Ramadan...

I thought Ramadan, he could kiss at night. If you're married, and I think there are people who have different rules, and he's just someone who wants to be really wise. Okay. I'm like, okay. I don't know Red Lama, I don't play that. No. Ramadan.

No. Or Lent. I was raised Catholic, but we never did Lent. And I don't even know what Lent is. For two weeks, you don't drink or it's one. I have no idea. Okay. But you weren't a Catholic? No, I wasn't. I think it's the quorum.

It's not 40 days, but I think it's 40 days. Oh, I thought it was more than the mosems. But we're not religious either. No, we left the religious aside. I wasn't raised Catholic, but the thing that was really fun, when I was little, my mother was Catholic, and I liked going to her church for the hosties. I loved that so much.

I was like, hey, yes, we have a little dinner. But you know, it's fascinating. I went to a theater that was a church, and they put the hosties in cafes, in desserts, like it's just, you're in a religious tabernacle, right? Like, they used the host machine with the name of the theater, but they put your desserts in the meal. But it's not a host's restaurant that exists. Yeah, I used to buy some when I was kid. I've had them for a long time.

But isn't it sacrilegious to use hostiles for other things? Like for desserts, coffee... There are a lot of things I do that I think will go wrong. I'm not ready for that. I don't think... Or there was a photo of Jesus like that, and you're in the back doing your show in front of Jesus. It's bizarre.

Did you ever do a show in a church that was still a church? No, not still a church. Once I did, you met my character Joe. I remember I did a show in a church that was still a church. There was a young guy who was, who started screaming at me. And it was like, my character met my character. So I was just like, I just got it because he was drunk and funnier than me. I was like, oh I'm fucked.

And I said, fuck off in the show. And there was a fuck off right there and another fuck off in the show. You know, the drunkard. So I was like, I'm really in a tabernacle. You've probably done a lot of shows. We did one in Lavaltry. There's a show in a church that's not desacralized. So there are still services there. I remember a show.

I remember the hall in the valley, David. The roof had collapsed. The old Théâtre du Marais. They had moved our show in the church, a small church on the street. And there, I swear, the house was getting lit up. And you have the priest's clothes that are there. And then you're like, hey, I'm going to put myself in a

little doll, you know, for the first time. First time someone with a white beard, I think. But then in St. Dona too, for a long time, the show room was in the church. It's funny because the church benches split. After an hour and a quarter, you see the crowd. The ass speaks at some point. They are uncomfortable. It happens more and more in Church City.

There are many church rooms that change their vocation because it's a room. So I would tell you that at the beginning, 25, 30 years ago, there were fewer. You had the classics, the Old Church of Amagog, the Little Church in Waterloo, but now it's still in function. Where were we last week? At the Aventerie. It was very cold, it was the Aventerie. But is it still a church?

Yes, absolutely. Oh, OK, I didn't know. Now, you two, are you, Dominique and Martin, are you still on tour? We're finishing. There are maybe 3 or 4 dates left. The show ends on the 6th tour. We finish it after 3 years. A show that was written during the pandemic. We're privileged, but it's over. We finish, I think, in Sherbrooke or something like that.

The rest is very open. Do you guys already think about the next one? Or usually after the tour you take a little break? Usually we are already in the process of doing it. There is a moment when you give up the show you are doing. You say, OK, I have six months left. We tell the booker, don't add a date. We did the tour for many reasons.

And then when we do that, we usually start thinking about the next enlistment, except this time. I think we'll do another show, if we've talked about it. We'll do another show, maybe two more. We're getting old, you know, 55 years, it takes energy to do the tour and all that. And we know we're going to do another one, but there's going to be a little time between the two, maybe more than there's ever been. That's maybe why we want to take a little break. We've lined up the projects, you know, we've stopped.

Because of the pandemic, we waited a year and a half before going on a show. Otherwise, it's six months, a year before we go on the next show, for 25 years. So this one, we're going to take a little break, but there's going to be one, that's for sure. And, you know, like, let's say, you know, from our generation, there's those we were talking about in Descendants, you know, there are plenty of them that have started again, you know, like José, who just came out of a show. José Mario... It works really well, José.

José Mario, it works too. Do you think you can do like a solo show? No. One year or not? We always, we always said, Dominique and I, that once we understood how our duo worked and that we became not worse in there, we understood at the same time that I have no interest in doing a solo show. The comedy, it's with Doom that I'm going to do it on stage, it's really with him. And that's what's cool because even if we finished a tour, we played on Thursday in my little patele in a room...

In Yamachish. ...in an improvised Yamachish, in a truck stop. They made a room there that does intimate shows. And we played there and I did like, OK, we have fun, like at the beginning. We still have fun discovering ways to bring the gag, ways to laugh. So we're three shows, four shows from the end of the tour.

We still find ways to surprise the other, many ways to make it. We are at the end of the show, we are at the end of the show, but we still find ways to surprise the other, to surprise ourselves. To be complicated. It would be difficult to work alone. In fact, it's a job. You have to learn, you have to define our character. I couldn't leave the duo and invent. I would have to do it again like my classes. For real, it doesn't tempt me. I took a class with Philippe Gaulier, the professor at Borat.

And I remember he was always telling me, you have a soloist. You want people on stage, but it's just to serve the soup. But he said you don't have a choice when you have a soloist. But it seems that you two are really team players. You like to have someone else on stage. I like the idea, but I'm always better.

I wouldn't do it with anyone. I like to be someone else on stage. I like the idea, but I'm always better alone. I wouldn't do it with anyone. I like to be with Dominique. And there's another thing too. When I talk to people who have been touring for a long time, some people tell me, I don't like touring, it's flat, I'm alone. And I tell them all the time, them, take a first part. You never had that problem. We have first parties. It's Rachel who does it almost every time. There's Rachel, Marco Mettivier, Danique Martineau who did some.

We also like to have... The idea of the first part is to make a comedian discover the public. Yes, we still need... We don't need it, but we still like to arrive a public humorist discover. Yes, we do need, we don't need, but we like to arrive with another energy. We do a tour, but we are on different times. We are not together on tour, Dominique and I. If we go on a show in Quebec, he goes down two days before, he goes skiing. I do radio. So in the morning I do my radio show. I go to sleep at home, I go on the show, I come back in the evening, I go back on the radio the next day.

He goes skiing the day before and the day after. He's more advantageous of the tour. If you have two nights in Quebec, you'll be back on the radio, you'll be back. If I'm at two shows, I'll stay there. I'll take a break at that time. But one show, I'll go to Gatineau on a Tuesday, and come back the next day to be in Nantes.

But tomorrow, I'll be back in Nantes. That's because you have a Tesla, right? It can drive you home. Yes, it drives you. Because you couldn't do that without a Tesla. I don't have a Tesla. You can, but you would have to work harder. Driving, I'm always tired in the evening. The only way I can stay awake is to eat chips.

But it's not for 5 hours, you know. 4 hours in Quebec is not possible. Me too, but there are side effects. And the radio, are you still happy? The radio, I don't know. No, no, yes, I'm also a fan of Quebec, but there are side effects. It's not possible. And the radio, are you still happy? The radio... I don't know... No, no, yes, yes, I'm still... It would be funny if you did a coming out of... I've been doing this for 14 years, it's been 12 years.

I've been doing this for 12 years. I still like this because it evolves, I still evolve in it. The day when... because you know, it's demanding. I find it tough to get up in the morning, you know morning because you wake up at 3.30am, you leave home at 4am, this winter, especially, there were minus 18, minus 20, and I was like, I got a blow in the face. The same thing with Dominique, to get on her stage or turn on the light in the shade, there's nothing more thrilling than that.

I really have a crazy pleasure in doing that. I still find the same joy as at the beginning, despite the challenge and the tax it takes in your life. My son is 16, he's almost 17, and he's been bugging me since he was 8. Because I'm sleeping in front of him, because it requires that. Do you have a story? A story with his finger sticking good student at school. But I like it so much that I haven't released it yet, but I just signed for two other years. I'll be 13, 14 years old. That's cool.

I feel like I found a kind of... I was surprised to be a radio host, anchor. But at the same time, not so much after the show, because I do that in my duo. A straight man is an anchor radio. An anchor radio, I often say it, someone who makes the obvious, what surrounds him. Even with Dominique, I'll put the puck on Dominique's tape and he's a shooter. I have three shooters around me. Where did you learn to do that for the radio? Did you really do it on the table?

When I started doing the radio, I was called Collerman. I was humorist with Dominique, and we did sketches. At one point, Joanne Cloutier, a program director, she looked at me and said, you could be an anchor. I said, oh yeah, okay, I'll try this summer. I was going to be on the show for two weeks, with energy, and it was a disaster. I didn't understand anything, but she persisted, more than me. She saw you, you didn't see it, but she persisted, more than me. She saw you. She saw something I didn't see. She did it like you're an anchor. When I got to know you, she called me.

She said, you're an anchor. She said, you're going to host the show this summer. Do your classes. I said, I'd like you to coach me. She said, I don't have time. I have a show at noon and another one at night. Do your things. I trust you. Go. But when she gave me that permission, it's as if I stopped feeling someone watching me from above the shoulders,

and I fell into responsibility. And I did it with Stéphane Belavent this summer, who is an animator himself. So you know when you're with someone who gives you what you need to give, he gave it to me because he's a real animator, Stéphane had more experience than me, well that's when I became an animator. Just someone who trusted me.

It's surprising that I asked you in the dressing room if you could do an hour in the afternoon. You wouldn't do it. You like the morning? The morning. But don't you find it difficult not to sleep? Yes, it's difficult. You sleep three hours a night. It's difficult on the body. I always say, it's not even a joke, my family doctor once made me like, ah yeah, you keep going.

She would make me stop. Because every year you take 10-15 pounds in winter. Now I'm in the worst winter time. Now you lose weight in the summer, but there's a 2, 3, 4, 5 pounds that you never lose. So since I started, I pay 55 pounds more than when I started, you know. Because the sleep is so unbalanced. I just realized I've been doing radio for ten years. You're a radio host.

But it's a physical attack, for sure. But the morning show is a perfect hour. I would have less fun doing it. I would have fun doing radio anyway. But in the morning, there's something. It's a medium that is extremely close to the listeners. It's the one with the most proximity. Well, the world is... You know, the dial is your voice.

So there are people who hear you before they hear their guy, their blonde, their child. It's disappointing. But it's funny what you say because, you know, at one point when you start to be known, people say, ah, I saw you on TV. Ah, I saw you doing a show the other day. There are people who recognize me by my voice. And you know, a young man, I was on the golf course two years ago, a young man of maybe 14, 15 years who works on the field, he's behind me.

Then one day, I say, are you the radio man? I said two sentences to someone in the distance, but he recognized me with my voice. I'm not used to that. It happens more and more. They tell me, your voice said something to me, but there's no idea that I'm in a relationship with Dominique, that I've been doing humor for 30 years, there's no idea of that. I'm a voice on the radio every morning. You could do... not only fans, but you could sell... No!

Like, if you have a voice, you retire, you could do... I would be a fan of the fans. But people could hire you Like, if you had a voice, you could retire. It would be ugly fans. But people could hire you to make a voice. There are people... I don't know why, I think about it, but there are probably people... In the morning, they wake up, they masturbate, they think of you, they listen to you, right? You know, you could make money in your retirement with your voice. Because so many people know your voice.

I'm not a murderer that he's seen you cross over. It would be sick if someone finally noticed. It would be weird if someone said, it must be the most disabling thing, if someone said, hey, every morning I was listening to my favorite. No, but think about the actors we see, like George Clooney doing a show for, a commercial for MasterCard. Right? I imagine there are comedians who have decided to make choices later in their lives to make money.

It's kind of embarrassing. You're like, oh shit, you know, good eats or whatever. Or are the Quebec comedians not sell-out? Because in the United States, there are people who do commercials and you're like, oh shit, I can't believe that... It's like if The Beatles did something for Visa or whatever. But I think it looks like in Quebec, there was... You know, it's been a long time since commercials are funny, the Vedettes who do commercials.

You know, like me when I was young, you know was young, Claude Meunier was making Pepsi, it was really funny. There was Benoit Briand who was making Monsieur Belle. I didn't know him before that. Or even Maxime Martin who makes Maxis. They're good ads. Who am I talking about? Maxime Martin.

Martin who was making Honda, he wasn't famous, he became famous in... It seems that the pubs are a plus, the quality is too good, it's not a sell-out. I think it's bad, if the ad is bad, you know, like me, I always said no to real ads, because it was always horrible offer. In the past, I had an offer. They gave me 25,000 to disguise myself as a chicken to announce a wedding or a wedding with a rocket. And we were like, why? And they were like, because Mike Ward in a chicken is funny.

And you did it? No, I didn't do it. And then this year, I had an offer from Rona, who was just... you know the Mike Sharona tour, he wanted to do Mike Sharona. Oh shit! I was like, oh, that's so cool. Mike Sharona.

But everyone laughed, it's funny. Mike Sharona. Mike is a stud. But you know, like know, I'm someone... I always say no, but because I don't like concepts. But at the same time... How much money did you offer for Mike Sharona? We didn't make it there. But before, it was always that.

I said to Michel, hey, say no, but before asking them how they pay to see what my value was. But at the same time, you know, I do a lot of advertising for the podcast. So, you know, I say no to 25,000 to refuse, but I say yes to Poly Sleep. So that's it. But yeah, that's it. Being on the radio, I like... You know, it's more regional radio that do that. But I'm a fan of the live radio. I like the animator who talks to you,

and then one day you're like, OK Chris, he's in a commercial, give me the band Tanguy, and you don't realize it. Did you do a lot of radio? No, not that much. I was a radio writer at the time. I was a writer for the big guys, and I was a writer for comic books.

Comic books had a radio show for a year. The thing that's crazy is that when you say in time, I was in time too, but everyone I was in time with, they're in Los Angeles or New York. So it's cool that you're all, the whole community is together here in Quebec. You know, I love it, I'm a little jealous. Sometimes I'm with the artists of the relief, people who are 25 years old, but that's because I've been here for three years. But it's cool that you have, you know, we do the, I started in 1996.

So when did you start? You know, you all, you have j'ai commencé en 1996, so... On a commencé... t'as commencé quand? Toi, t'as... vous avez... 1993, moi, je suis de l'école en 96. Moi, j'ai commencé à faire du stand-up en 93, mais j'ai... t'sais, c'était vraiment plus juste le dog, là, t'sais, dans le temps, là. Est-ce que tu allais à Toronto comme le Laughers or... Non, ben, au début, au début, moi, t'sais, j'avais commencé started in English, but I was just doing Comedy Works, Comedy Nest, and Ottawa too. I was going to do the Yorkshire to Ottawa, and there was a guy who was booking a show on a military base,

and who was also booking one of the universities there that I was going to do. But it's crazy that you worked for Bill Cosby. Yes, but last summer. You were playing a game of chess. You were mixing up your drinks. You were mixing up your drinks. That's crazy. You were in prison.

You visited in prison. I remember Martin and Dominiqueique before you were a duo. I didn't do those parties because I hadn't reached that level yet. But I saw you two in the publicix sur Saint-Laurent. Bien oui. Puis je vous avais vu les deux. Puis après, j'avais... quand je m'étais dit, « Ah ouais, je vais faire ça, ça va devenir ça ma job », j'avais trouvé votre dossier de presse. Puis votre dossier de presse au début, c'était Sion Cloutier.

Oui. Fait que là, tu sais leur nom du duo, c'était not Dominique et Martin. We even made a poster and we were named after them. It's funny because you're talking about Publix. Martin Matte saw us there before. He was working with his father in the window. He saw us there and he started making fun of us because of us. But it's funny that he was a souvenir of that.

It didn't last very long. It was Daniel Fichot who organized these shows. Daniel who is known everywhere. But yeah, the beginning of our tour was Sionte-Loutier. Because there was the Turkish EVEC, so we took our family names. And at one point, Mario in Quebec, in Dagobard, I already told him, but he was unable to introduce us. He introduced us to Dominique and Martin.

And we were like, no, our name is Siont-Loutier. Ah, that's great. And now we do two, three, four shows, and he introduces us to Dominique and Martin all the time. We take them all the time. And one day he comes and says, you know what, guys? I think Dominique and Martin is more beautiful than Siont-Loutier. And then we went back and we did like,

do you remember my poster? But Asti, it's true, you're right. We kept that name that was more convivial than Siont-Loutier, which was Auster. Yes, Thorez. We kept that name, which was more convivial than the one we used, which was Oster. Yes, yes. No, it's really, it's simple, it's true. But it's funny, if Mario Grenier had a memory, Dominique and Martin would never exist. Yes, that's it.

I know it's weird that I'm working with you guys, and I think I said that for a long time, for two months, I didn't know who Dominique was and who Martin was. And finally, I talked to Billy Tellier and I said, the youngest has the biggest name and the oldest has the smallest penis. Nobody says big, Rachel. Say the truth. Wasn't it nice? It was just a joke, right? He's huge. He's huge. He's huge. He's huge. How do you make radio? You can't make radio if you're not really a bandit or whatever. It's not bandit, it's something else. But that, there must be a lot of people that...

Let's say, since you've become in humor, you have both solo careers, but other than the stage. But for the stage, you are Dominique and Martin. So there must be people who will say, stage, you are Dominique and Martin. So there must be people who go, hey, it's Dominique and Martin. My mother already called me Dominique. Oh yeah. My mother, at some point, I get home and she goes, oh, it's Dominique. Oh, she does that too, but I think it's just the reflex of the first one you see. Because it's never happened to Dominique. People don't call Dominique Martin because the first name is her name, so it works all the time.

And then, listen, when we started to be more famous, it's a funny period in life, when people recognize you, you don't know if it's because they saw you on TV or if you're the finger of money, or if it's your cousin and you don't remember her. And then, at some point, people, I was taking them all the time. No, that's it, I'm not Dominique, I'm Martin. And then one day I was like, yes, yes, it's point, the world, I was always taking them back. No, that's not Dominique, I'm Martin. And one day I was like, yes, yes, it's me, Dominique. Good day, I'm not called Sylvie, it's okay. What do you say when people recognize you, but who are, let's say, who are like,

hey, where do I know you? Do you tell them or do you just say, oh, it's a shame you know me? I introduce myself all the time like a neighbor rock. Okay. If I tell you what, you'll say, yes, rock neighbor, Chris. And then you'll say, no, no, that's not it. And then I leave them in the mic. Okay.

I know the name rock neighbor, but who is he? He's a musician. Rock neighbor. And then... Sing the mic. Helen, things you do make me crazy about you Why are you staying here?

I need a friend No fucking clue! He was really... I know the name! I'm like Rock was in! Yes! He made an album in English that was good and had a certain success in English but he was huge in France. If I knew André Gagnon, maybe my parents listened to him, or he played on the radio. André Philippe Gagnon or André Gagnon the pianist?

I think the pianist. But who is André Philippe Gagnon? He is a singer too. An imitateur. Oh no, not him. But I saw that André Gagnon, he's a singer too. An imitator. Oh no, not him. But I saw that André Gagnon does shows with his son who is a DJ. He sang with his son this summer. Oh, okay. Oh, imitator.

Yes. I can't remember the next person, but I know André Gagnon. But we know Mitsu. Because in Ontario, we were close to Gatineau, but we didn't have... I wasn't really connected with the French culture. Even though I was in a French school and my father was French, we weren't connected at all with the French language. Do you know Sol? Because when you were little...

Reggae? No, Sol was like a meme, but he talks. So it's not a meme, but he speaks. A clown? A clown, yes. I have visuals. There was a show in Télé-Québec, which also plays on TV Ontario. It was like a class.

It was never clear. It was like a class for French people, not a French class for the English, with humor. Little town, I think I saw it. It was just, oh, there's a man dressed like a woman. The little town. The little town is the parody for us, I think. The guy with the beard, the girl with the big boobs. The guy with the beard, the girl with the big boobs. He's sleeping on the edge.

The little life, Rachel, the little life. Yes, but that's how I watch magazines, right? There are people who really read that, but I watched the visuals. On television, I didn't watch the French shows. It was only when I started to do humor, in French, that I watched TV in French. And my husband was like, What are you doing? But I was like, I love French and my husband was like, What are you doing? I was like, I love it, I love it. You know, it must be weird because you work a lot in French. Before you started in French, did you realize how Quebec culture and showbiz work?

No, it was... All of Canada, England, there was no showbiz work. Because all of Canada doesn't have showbiz. It's everywhere. I remember seeing Kat Lovak at the Odyssey room. She was 27 years old. She had a standing ovation. It was sold out. I had just done the Fringe at Edinburgh. Every night I had to sell my tickets.

I had a sell-out, but the next day, I had one ticket sold, I had to go. As a character, to sell my tickets. I have a sell-out, but the next day there's one ticket sold, I have to go as a character and sell my tickets. And I go into the audience room, and it's like the Fringe, Edinburgh. But there are producers, and I saw like 55... I'm an entrepreneur too, so I saw 55 dollars per ticket. Holy shit! This is Hollywood! And he was 27, I was about 50 at the time.

So I was like, holy shit, you know, when women hear my voice, my story will be over, and also men. But when I saw you, I remember that it was really a big moment when I saw you at the audience. Did you calculate how much I won? Oh yeah, totally! And I remember you were like, I don't know if I'm going to start with this joke again. And I was like, you're in a fucking... you're in a theater of 1500 people and you're still smoking. You're backstage, there's alcohol, there's food. I was like, I look at the English scene, it's like we were beaten.

You have pizza lunches, we have to stay, we don't have milk in the morning, you have to... You know, we were abused, like our industry. No, no, it's true, people ask me what the most difficult thing is in French. I say, go back to English. It's always conditions with, you know, five, under, who don't listen. And that's the comedians, that's the audience. You know, they're just there, someone is just...

You know, you try to make humor for a... For almost five years in Toronto, I was making humor without making money, just working to find my voice. But here, the open micers, it's incredible. They can pay for their car, their fucking Tesla, their everything, you know? No, I imagine that's why you stopped doing a little bit more in French or was it...? No, it was really... The thing I don't like about Maurice's job is traveling.

I like that, once I'm in the other place, but it's to get back. The path is long, so that's why I never wanted to do it in English or Canada. So I said to myself, okay, grab my green card, I'll go to New York. And then, once I felt ready to go to New York, it was going well here. So every time I said to myself, I'm going to do half and half, then I started doing half and half, and then one day, I got a gig in English, and I was like, what am I doing?

But that's why I changed too. I was in Edinburgh for... I did Winnipeg, then I did Edinburgh for four weeks, and very tired, without my family, and then we had a... OK, you can come to New York and do your show in Soho. Theater, we were like fucking great, but it was six weeks that I wasn't with my family,

and I went back to the audience, I saw what you were doing here in Quebec, and I was like, holy shit, mini Hollywood here. No, really, it was... You know, New York, I went to see shows with Dominique Courteamange and Fallu a couple of years ago. In the comedy clubs over there, there's also a microcosm that's particular. It's really everything or not everything.

But someone who... You know, I was talking to a guy, he's a comedian, he comes from New Jersey. And I said, don't you dare walk around. He only plays in New York. He's like, no, there are 16 million people here in the agglomeration. And 16 million people, that's twice as many as Quebec. He takes the bus and six nights a week, he does five times his number, and he saves his life with that.

And he didn't have the ambition to do more than that. So that's his reality, where he's in Hollywood, he makes a movie, and then there's a tour in the United States. But there's no in-between there. You know Steph Toolev, right? When she started to really have success in Canada, Canada is like, okay, hubcap, comedy festival, whatever. And if you're a little trash, like she is,

she couldn't even do the Winnipeg Comedy Festival. So she went to Los Angeles, Bill Burle saw it, and suddenly she can come back here to just laugh. So I was always a little trash like, and so CBC, they are always, even when I send my most clean script, they will say, oh, call a little trash and I'm like fuck you. You know what I mean? Like when I saw what you were doing, I was like, wow, the public. One thing I didn't know was how sexual language is. You know, you children will see, I work with Etienne Marcoux, and we worked on my show, and I was like,

your son is four years old, do you think he should listen to my show? Because he was there for Zoom. But he shouldn't. No, but... Sorry, Etienne, but he said he heard the show of Christine Moranci. So he said, oh, we heard everything. But he's four years old. Maybe he's not four years old. Sorry Etienne, but I was like, is it okay?

Because we in English, the Italians, at least, we protect the children from sex. We don't talk about sex. You know, we make corpos. Me, that's why in English, I never did... I never did CBC. You can't even say Meld on CBC. Two years ago, I did the nasty show at Showtime in the States. And once, an offer for HBO.

So it was... You know, you're saying that... But it was like that here. I'm old enough to have... When I started, we didn't sacred our stage. There's no one who sacred on a stage in 90s. Maxime Martin arrived, and then a year later, people stopped taking them. Peter arrived, you arrived, and then Jeff Mercier a couple of years later.

But otherwise, I was doing made a deal with a sac. It was out of question. But when you say sac, if you say fuck, it doesn't count as a sac. We didn't say that because we were less in French than we are now. So there was not much, it was less in today's fuck, fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking. But in the meantime? But in the meantime, I was warned, on a stage, in a room, I was lost in Canada. To say what, like a tabernacle?

Just a tabernacle in a number, a tabernacle that was a punctuation, in fact, that was not free, it was justified. And you do like, there you take that out of it, I'm going to make you laugh, I'm going to take it out because you want to go on TV and do... But I remember at that time, in English, the world was more open, You could be more trash. I see that it was the years when Just for Laughs was at showtime in the States. And here we were at Radio Can. And then there was a switch a month ago that English Canada became very, very, very politically correct, very woke. It's funny because when I started in French humor during the pandemic,

I did a Zoom for the Ottawa library and hired a comedian from Quebec who won, I think, six Olivier. I'm not going to name his name. A girl, let's guess. Who is it? No, it was a man. But it was for the Ontario library. 600 people. And I was the animator. And when this comedian entered the Zoom,

all the cameras started to shut down. And I received a note, because it was me who hired all the comedians. There were like four comedians. And a lady said in the letter, complaining, I was traumatized. I couldn't go back to work for four days.

These jokes traumatized me. In this environment, you should really talk to this comedian. No, it wasn't you. But who is he? So with the comedian, I was like, oh, they're idiots, they're stupid, whatever. And with the librarian, I was like, pardon, I'm so sorry. You know, it was just Quebec. It's a comedian from Quebec?

Oh, you don't want to guess? No, no. But it's PA, if it's someone from Quebec, it's not PA. No, no. No, it's initial. But I'm not going to say, but it's someone who does a lot of corpos, and who is a comedian who can do corpos, but things... Sylvain Laroque. Oh, yes, Sylvain Laroque.

Hey, you're a nut! He started with his trans joke and also the priest. He said, you should have a child, like a priest's joke. And he talked about, oh, when you meet a woman and she goes to the bathroom for men, you're like, oh shit! And I'm like a trans joke and a fucking pedophile joke in the first two minutes. When? I did some jokes where you can't say penis or vagina.

I was like, Sylvain, what are you fucking thinking? Sorry, Sylvain, I'm sorry. I love you. You got paid $1,000. Get over it. When? When Sylvain Laroque traumatizes you, your life is easy. I want to do something with this letter.

I have a letter from the Quebec Library. Write to Madame Sylvain Laroque, she's my municipal advisor. You're a politician, Madame. She was traumatized by a politician in Quebec. I'm not talking about the Rock, she's my municipal councilor. Oh my God, this is great! She was traumatized by a politician in Quebec. I have a letter where she said, and it wasn't just her, it was several staff. And they were like, the lady is shaking, I can't go back to work. And I recently did a composition, because I had so many traumatists like that. I always say, are there things you on aime quand tu vas trop loin. T'es certain?

Je dis, va trop loin, va trop loin. I'm like, OK, fuckers. J'ai la platte en terre et les ovaires qui claquent. You know, I'm going to just... You can't say whore on CBC radio. Même vous parlez de masturbation sur le radio. I'm like, OK, fuckers. I'm going to just... I'm going to just... You can't say whore on CBC radio.

Even if you talk about masturbation on the radio, you know, they have cross-country checkups. So on CBC, you call everyone in Canada, you want to have their opinion. There was something on CBC Radio France where they talked about masturbation at 9 a.m. They wanted to talk to the public. Hey, are there people who masturbate?

Oh, my 6-year-old child masturbates. And when he masturbates, what should I do? And the lady said, oh, well, if it bothers you, don't leave him there or put him in a private room. I was like, I was a Catholic high school student where he said, you're going to go blind if you masturbate. You know, so I was like, whoa, long live Quebec. You guys are fucking liberal.

But not with tabarnak and all that, but with other things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. With the church, right? The church? Yes. You have so many ways

not to say tabarnak. Like tabarnak de papernan, all that stuff. You heard that? Peppermint tapernan? No. Yeah. Apparently, if you don't want to say tabarnak,

you can say tabarnan de paperman. Okay. Yeah. Peppermint tapernan. Peppermint tapernan. Peppermint, Tabernan? No. Yeah, apparently if you don't want to say Tabernak, you can say Tabernan de Papermann. Okay. Yeah. Peppermint, Tabernak. Okay. Yeah, there's like five different ways to say Tabernak. It looks like you've been made fun of by a Quebecois.

No! Okay, cheers, cheers. He was like, do you want to sleep with me? I was like, tabernan to tabernan! Nobody said that, you're going to be a bastard, he wouldn't do that. But it's so funny, the guy I... my friend I was kissing... It's so funny because... I don't know if you had this experience, I love it when he speaks French, but when he speaks English,

when he speaks French, you know he has a soft voice, like I come, I think for an English speaker it's very cute, but he said, once he said, I'm coming, I was like, oh shit, like, I can't say, don't speak in English, but with him, I'm like, never speak in English, like his accent, because people change their personality. It sounded like Le Maupet chaud in English a little bit. I knew someone who fell in love with a magician who had a wig like a...

A wig? A wig from Dollar Store. But he was really sexy like... Did you know? Did you know he was was cheap because he hid a rabbit underneath? No, no, no. His name was... It's like a card. It's like a card.

Mustachio. It was Mustachio. And he was so attractive. Mustachio. His name is Mustachio. Mustachio. He was... They had sex with the wig. But when he took the wig off, he was like,

Oh shit, I don't like you anymore. Did he take the wig off to suck it? Yes. Yeah, and then... Mustachio. Then he put it back on, but he never took it off. His name is Mustachio. Mustachio. Mustachio.

Yeah, and he had a PhD in magic. So she didn't like his intellectual side. She liked the Mustachio dirty with the friggin', you know, just... But when he was releasing his PhD... His PhD in magic... He invented that. Yeah, it looks like he made it up.

I remember my son had a teacher who was always in a bad mood with the kids. At the end of the day, she was like... She said, I have to go to bed and I'm going to take my PhD in yoga. And even my son was like, what the fuck? You're just a loser. Because she didn't like kids. So she wanted an excuse to leave.

Well, maybe that's not nice for people who have their PhD in yoga. But I bought a burka. But that doesn't exist. It exists for real. PhD in magic. But not in yoga. But she's in Poudlard. No, I think in magic, where there's a magic museum in Paris, I think there are places where he takes magic very seriously.

David Topperfield, he learned on the top. It's Jeff Maxx. Yeah, that's it. So imagine. We should ask Chris Ramsey, right? Chris Ramsey will know. If there is a PhD. What university gives that?

I think it was in Toronto. I'm going to ask him. Moustachio. Sorry, Moustachio. Sorry Moustachio. I hope that's what he wrote in his diploma. His business card. Moustachio. So Mr. Moustachio, I see that in your CV you never worked.

You never worked on a TV. Mustachio. Mustachio. He was intimidated. He was intimidated. Yes, he was pale. He made a lot of soups. I said a lot of soups. When you meet a man who cooks, it's a good sign.

Because you're like, OK, you're coming back. But he cooks soup. I'm sure because he didn't have the means to make a real meal. He found his stuff in his wig. He had a wig in soup. But I told my friend, hey, he cooks soup, like he cooks, like you're going to love him. So I did a little set up. So during the evening when he was washing his wig,

she was like, he's hot, he's hot. And I was like, this is going well. Sometimes when you're in a relationship for a long time, you're really excited when the young people have a hookup, right? You're like, yeah, someone's fucking. So I was really happy for both of them. I was like, yes, mustache,achio and Amy will have a fight.

I was like, yes. But when she said, I don't like his wig, I was like, you have a big problem. He doesn't make soup with his wig. He just fucking makes his soup. But is there... How old is Moustachio? Oh shit, Moustachio, maybe 30, 50?

More than that. No. My God, there's an old name. No, but he was an old man. It's a stage name. It's not his real name. Ginny! He has his Batistaire.

Mustachio! You know what? Mustachio's big turn. Did you see him? Oh yeah, he was... Oh, I don't really remember. He had a saber, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives.

He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he was smashing knives. He had a sword, he did you see him? Ah, yeah, he was... Oh, I don't really remember.

There was a snake, he was smashing knives. I think... No, but I don't remember. But you know, one thing I saw, a magician, the most incredible thing I saw, and it's very sad, I saw a magician in his 80s, and that was when he retired. But he did the most incredible thing I've ever seen. He could just take out a pigeon. Just nowhere. Well, he was doing magic.

No, not a pigeon, sorry, a dove. Oh yeah. Not a pigeon. How do you say dove? A dove. A dove. Okay, not a pigeon. He took out a turkey.

That's Joe, my character. So he took out a gift, a what? A dove. A dove. A dove, not a pigeon. He was pulling out a tooth. That's Joe, my character. So he was pulling out a gift, a what? A dove. A dove. A dove. One, two, three. But the third one, so it's three, two, three. He pulled out dead and then he...

No, he was like... What? The dove? Ok, the dove was like... And we were watching the magician try to see his other magic tricks, but one of the friggin' doves was dying. And he was almost dead too, the magician. So we were like, oh shit, it's so sad. He was like, stop making fun of me! But at the end of the show, we went to see him in the backstage, and the dove had died. Okay! He put the dove in his fucking jacket. He didn't have a choice? No, that's the only way you can get them out. I didn't know the magic trick, but you put them in your jacket,

they're in the jacket, and this time, the last time, he's like crack crack crack and just fuck them. And he didn't take his retirement, but everyone in the audience was like, I think it's time we take your retirement. It's sad, but it was the best moustachio soup. It was a meal soup. But did he play moustachio or did he play with his wig on his head? Because there's something funny about a magician who sometimes takes off his wig, his hair, his face...

He never took it off, but it moved a little bit. But I would have loved to remember his friggin' tricks, but no, I don't even remember a magic trick he did. But it's all sad, that story. Yeah, I know. All sad. Where's your 35 year old dog? Chris Ramsey isn't a magic saint. He's incredible. I did a show with a film called Gore Farm.

He sometimes comes to the show and his brother takes pictures. His brother is incredible. He just smokes a lot of pot and takes pictures. It's amazing. His brother is incredible. He just films a lot of pot and takes pictures. It's amazing. That's very random. I was about to ask someone who didn't know he was good at photography. No, I don't think I have TDAH, but my mother had TDAH, so I have a little bit of TDAH.

You're PhD. Yeah, PhD. PhD in TDAH. I want... Hey, Yann, can you google... Moustachio. PhD in magic and moustachio. Moustachio! Moustachio. But the worst... You know, after me, it should be called moustachio. You know, if you have a cheap wig, you want to distract attention.

And you're like, no, check my moustache! But he came in with magic, incredible music. Was his mustache big? He was very curly, like Dolly, a T-Bird. And he came in with music, it was very... He created an atmosphere and something came out. You know, just... I don't remember. You don't give me the pleasure to see him.

No! I want to see his picture. Yann, what did you find? Not yet. Wait. Did you google PhD in magic or did you google Mustachio? I started with PhD in magic. And that's nothing.

That must be... That sounds like a sentence from a cruise. I have a PhD in cuneilingus. There's Magic Academy. Oh, ok. There's an article that says... Are you sure you're a poodle? There's an article that says Newfoundland First Certified Doctor of Magic.

Oh, Mustachio is coming to turn up! And I'm going to google Mustachio. Mustachio. Toronto. And it must be M-U-T-M-U-S. M-U-S-T-A-C-H-I-O. I hope that's his name. Make moustachio.ca.

I don't know if there's a website. Make moustachio on Facebook. I hope he doesn't speak French. Oh, my God. If you find it, I want you to book it. You can get moustache on Facebook. I hope he doesn't speak French. If you find it, I want you to book it, Mike. Oh yeah. We have moustache. With his hair, he cites. Did you work a lot with magicians?

Not really. I do cabaret. I've been doing cabaret for 25 years. I always had friends in Toronto when I was catering at servers. So I wanted to do variety shows with a lot of different forms of art. That's why I had magicians. But it's not always easy to find good magicians. It always makes me uncomfortable. A bad magician who makes you want to go out. Oh God, yeah.

All the time. And he didn't stop. You know, there was a guy, well, Jean-Yves Doriot, you know. There was a guy, in his time... He was still in the city. He was super good, but he was in a gala in Quebec. So everyone, it's their first time on TV, they're stressed. And he's like, hey, I have a rock in my armpit.

And then everyone is like, hey, he's dizzy. He was doing that, listen, the best line I've heard, it's Mario Grenier who said to Jean-Yves one year, he was always doing stuff. He was coming up to you, he wanted to show you that he was skilled, and he was, for real. But he just didn't have any social skills. Then one year, he comes up to Mario, he's like, look, Bing.

And he goes out, he does his launch, he has 25 scenes. From behind, the comes to Mario's side and says, Look, Big, and he goes out. He makes a launch, he has 25 scenes. From behind, Mario's ear, which is 45 years old. Mario looks at him and says, Listen, Big, make 3000 bucks, you get me out of the ass hole, there's no more. Stop, you're a fool, there's no more. I'm going to go do the machine.

And he stops there. I found a mustache-o, but... He calls him the magician because he got caught... There's a weird mustache, and he's a criminal, and he got caught stealing. Well, yeah, it's him. Indeed. What did he steal? He stole some canes? Uh, some ducks.

He stole some? No, some ducks. Huh? Ducks. He stole some ducks. What are ducks? Ducks like, you know, Chef Boyardee and... Really?

...Bebim and... He doesn't want to do that! He stole some. He doesn't want to do that! He was like... Fuck off, I'm going to kill you! He's disgusting! He's making jokes! No no no no! Fuck you Mustache!

God! He's going to do that! He's also going to do that! With ham! No, tonight there's ham on this table! Otherwise there's a book behind it! A book is Moustachio the magician who couldn't pull a rabbit out of her hat. It's a book, for example.

So he wrote a book. Who said that? No, it seems to be a lady. The magician who couldn't pull a rabbit out of her hat. It's a magician who couldn't pull a rabbit out of his ass. When you say Moustachio the magician, couldn't pull a rabbit out of her ass. It's like he couldn't pull a rabbit out of his ass. When you do Moustachio Magician Google image, do you see it? No, that's where I fall on the criminal.

Ok. I don't have my phone. Oh, too bad. And you said where did he come from, Rachel? Excuse me? Where did he come from? Toronto? Toronto, yeah. Okay, I'm going to ask Judge J.P.T. Oh yeah, ask... He's looking for the Booster.

But he's a good magician, just pale. Okay. Very pale. He worked on his PhD, so he was tired. Yeah, and he was tired. But I think with magicians... It's like... I've been a clown for a long time, and when you play a clown who is really bad, it's an experience you can never forget. But when you see a clown who is really good, it's the same with magicians.

As you know, Alex Boyer, Chris Ramsey, they're like... I can't hire them, they're too expensive. No matter who's good. Let's say someone says, I don't like jazz. Maybe you don't like most jazz, but someone incredible, you'll like him. But it's not the same thing. Imagine Bad Burlesque. I remember I saw a woman who was doing Burlesque. And it was like... well, maybe I won't go into that. No, no, no.

I'm sure you will. No, it's just when you read visuals that you have like bad clowns. Like I remember my son, we saw a clown who was in a straight jacket. And the thing was that he was like on a crane. You know? And the gag was that he was going to be in the straight jacket, he was going to get out of the straight jacket, he's going to get out of the straightjack, he's going to get out.

My son is there, he's like five years old, and he puts the key to his straightjack in something on the ground, and he gets on the crane, he starts going on the crane, he starts trying to get out, but suddenly he can't get out. So he's dressed as a clown, he becomes very pale. And suddenly he becomes traumatized. And we're like, is this a clown show or is it true? And he shakes, he shakes, and finally he begins to be traumatized and he goes into shock. The ambulance comes to my son. My son runs to get the key to get him out.

And he starts screaming at my son. And at the end of the show, the ambulance comes... Did the magician finish with, that's your card? And I wanted him to have a good experience, to have a good clown, but it was the worst experience. My son was crying. Even I have a friend who... Where was this show? In Toronto, my son was crying. I even have a friend who... Where was that show? In Toronto, just outside a theater.

But another friend of mine who was a clown, she broke her leg in a clown on roller skates. She was at the beginning of her shift, she was doing the clown, he was laughing, and then she broke her leg, the ambulance came, she was like in a fucking, you know, on a stretcher, and everyone is crying. Last year, I saw, I was at a festival and it was a bit wet and there were clowns on

shelves, on stilts. And they were walking on the sidewalk and then there was one, he started walking on the lawn and I was like, oh shit, it won't end well. And then I just hear, Oh, shit! Oh, shit! And then I just heard, Oh no! Oh no! And then he just fell to the ground. And then I was like,

Damn, Varnak! So then, you know, you know, some people went to help him. I left, watching the show. That's you! And then the ambulance arrived. And then I was like, Oh, that's weird! And then all the clowns who were in the elevator, when we left,

he was just there. But he wasn't working, but he was still there. You know, the first show I did on the Fringe tour was a clown show. And when the show was good, it was so good. But I remember I was in Saskatoon and I had a show, I became pregnant, I was like shit, the show's not going well, I had bad reviews. And there was a room, it was a room where you could do a show, there was a girl who did a show, Come See My Pussy, that's what it was called, Come See My Vagina, and she

had a sellout every night. There were naked dancers who did a show too. And I tried to do a an avant-garde clown. Nobody comes to see my show. There are strippers who do a sell-out every night. I was so depressed. But that's when I was... I wanted to work so that people would understand.

Clown is an avant-garde clown. Your show is beautiful. Was it a clown show? No, it was a show plus more stand-up, storytelling, costumes. It was the closest I had the courage. In what year? In 2015. It was called, I should have been in love with you again. I think it was the year I was there. Michelle, what year was it?

It was the year after you, I think. Because I saw your poster with the muzzle. I think it was... maybe I was there in 2016, but I know it wasn't the same year as you. But it's a... 3000 shows, right? How was your experience helping me? Well, I was in depression, so it's not a good idea to go to another country in depression. And it's raining all the raining, people buying... Yes, all the time. So I'm joking. You know, Edinburgh is a kind of city that even when things are going well, you feel like you're getting beaten up in the back. Oh yeah! I'm very positive and I thought twice, I should beat myself up, you know? But did you sell goods?

Yes, I sold goods, but I had a big, big product. I had billboards everywhere. I did all that. I had my sister and my musician. I saw the part of the world giving flyers in the back, and I was like, I'm not going to be able to do it. But I did 30 hours of show, I was always sold out. Hey, it's beautiful! I was always sold out, let's say from Wednesday to Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, it was half-rooms. It was 3000 shows at the same time for the festival.

You see, competition with 3000 shows. But playing with a depression, it must be tough to make people laugh or it was really tempting your stock. On stage, I think it didn't seem like it, but it's that after the show, you know, I'm usually the kind of person who takes a drink after the show. I got off stage, I went to my apartment. You didn't want to do anything. I didn't see anyone. When you were in school, was that why you were depressed?

Yes, yes. It's been a year. It's been a year I was in school. And I was very naive. I said to myself, I'm going to go to another country, far away, I won't hear about it. But that's all people were talking about, even in the other end of the world. And in the other end of the world, you don't have any resources either. If you're at home, you have close friends, you're alone, far away. So I was alone, and I had my gang there. It was a co-producer from Quebec and British. My British producer had produced the tap dogs and another show like that, the year before.

I don't remember which show it was, but he told me about the tap dogs. I think it was Bl Blueman Group, told me that something had exploded. We went to the park for a day, you do a 15-minute show, people see that, they're all going to buy tickets. I was like, well, for the Blueman Group, I understand, but I do a show.

Mike Ward in a park, that's sad! I'm going to be in a park doing, hey, I'm going to the park, you know, if there's nothing that's going on... It's like, people think you're going to go out in a penis. No, no, no, I'm not doing it, I'm not doing it. Well, no. And there was also, me, before going there, I had the record in time, I had done, the year before, just to fun, I had done 45 shows during the festival, which was the record of the festival. And then I was told that in Edinburgh, I could do 100 shows.

So I said to myself, I'm going to do 100 shows in a month, it's going to be sick. But the first day I arrived, I did four shows and I did... Clear. No, no, fuck off. Even 30 shows is difficult. Yeah, my show and that's it. And then I had friends who told me, you know, my producer over there told me, no, you have to do it every three days. And then I have a friend who said, hey, you should have just done it on Friday, Saturday.

And then, you know, I stuck with it. I wasn't going there to do a career. So it's weird that I followed the same rules as everyone else. And the audience, which is not ideal, they saw 10 shows in one day, they're tired, sometimes they're asleep. There was something that I really liked. In Edinburgh, it was the first years that England really started to really haunt my genre. Before that, I went to England and it was going well. Then the woke side came and it was quite intense. So when I was young, white men,

they were all shocked and the old gays were hitting on me. So when there were some guys in the room, it was weird. I got on stage and I was like, oh yes, old guys. My world in Europe is old parties. I was happy. I was like, yes. What did the young people do? Did they leave the stage? No, but you know, there was one evening, I was making a joke. I had a number in that show that I was telling someone that someone had told me, it's not true that you have the right to laugh at everything. You know, because I had made a joke about I don't know what.

And he said, you can't laugh at that, since you don't know that disease, you don't know what it is. So there, it was a joke from Sida, so I said, you can't laugh about it, since you don't know about this disease, you don't know what it is. So, it was a AIDS joke. So, I said, since that day, she said, you'll be able to make jokes about AIDS the day someone in your family will have AIDS. So, I decided that day, I'm going to give my brother AIDS. And I asked someone in the audience, I said, look, if you have the cider, I'll give you 1000$. My brother is not gay, so it's going to be complicated. But I have it and he fills the cans with cider. And I was doing these jokes.

Oh yeah, it's incredible this joke. And you know, Target, Target, he's gay. They're all like me, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do a strategy. I don't remember what joke it was, but there was a guy in the room who was young, like 21 or 22. And back then, in Quebec, the young were the ones who laughed the most, and the old were shocked. And this is the first time, it's the opposite, the old are the ones who were joking, and the young were shocked. And I had asked a young person, I had asked said, what's wrong with you?

He said, I don't know. I asked him what he didn't say, what's bothering you? He said, I don't know. I said, well Chris, you need to know. You can't be shocked without knowing. It was weird. It's interesting because I work in a theatre form called Buffon for a long time. It was with Philippe Gaulier.

It's satire. You try to make characters that... The idea is that you are the king's clone. The king will laugh, but in the evening he will go and kill himself because you make him think about how he's in trouble. So I had a routine where I played a Pamela Anderson character who is in the Twin Towers for September 11th. And I'm like, Oh my God, I'm a secretary, help me.

And then suddenly she sees that the planes are coming close to the apartment where she lives. So she's like no, I'm acting out and she breaks the window and she jumps. And she's like, America, make America great. Not make America great, but that's the style. And her friends are burning. She's like, oh shit, Freddie's on fire. It was like very dark, right?

And I fall on the floor and I was like, she's dying. And then she wakes up and says, I want, Freddie's on fire. It was like very dark, right? And I fell on the floor and I was like, she's dying and then she wakes up and says, I wanna fuck myself and then she dies. It's really dark. But it was like two weeks after September 11th. And I did that. I did that at a theater in Toronto and a lady said,

there's nothing funny about September 11th. And I was so in my zone, I said, it's satire and if you don't like it, you can kiss my ass. And I went out and my director, my director, said, Do you want to go out the back of the stage? Because everyone was cheering me on and I remember I had come in and I was like, fuck you. But I had a lot of experiences where I was a little too edgy, you know? Like sometimes there are people...

That's why I think I love Quebec and I think they're not easily shocked. We're still in September! That's not it. You paved the way for me. Thank you, Mike Ward. Yann, do you have any questions? Yes, I have three or four good questions. Martin, you have to work late tomorrow. I'm late for work tomorrow.

It's like the time of the holidays. Cheers! We're going to party until 8.30. Exactly. We're going to party until 8.30. Exactly. We're going to party until 8.30. We have a great question from Marc-André who asks, What is the biggest difference between Dominique and Martin in 1999 and Dominique and Martin in 2025?

The bank account. But there are less differences than we think. In the sense that, I was talking about this earlier, we are still able to marvel and find comedic paths, ways to make us laugh again. And that surprises us a little because we have done something like 175 numbers in two. Now, we don't know the patterns, there are only a few. But the biggest difference, I think we're starting to better master what we're doing.

In 1999, we didn't know what we were doing at all. A duo, what was it? It was a bit shown to us by Pierre Légaré, Gilles Lattulipe, meeting people from that time, who, in any case, Gilles Lattulipe, had come across me, you're a straight man, and straight men do this and that. Other more subtle encounters, which... So I think we know more about what we do now. We know more... Yeah, of course, it's the privilege to age a little and to have the experience,

but we still kept the fun of... It's precious for us, the complicity we have, the scene and the kind of energy we have. We look at it with jealousy. It's the same as in 1999. I had the privilege of seeing their capture at the Quebec Theatre. And to see... Did you see his routine? It was a show that we captured last summer. It was not our tour, it was the 30th anniversary of our duo. We were doing a best-of of numbers from 25 years ago to today. Did you see his number from the top?

The green-green. I saw it for the first time. That's wild as an exercise because I see it between 1999 and today. We were perhaps a more physical thing in time, a little more character, let's say. When we started, Mike, we were stand-up, and at one point, when we were coming out of our first show, we were asked to play characters because we didn't really do it. We did it because of the pressure of the producer at the time, and at one point, we spent our lives trying to get rid of them. And now, we've done two shows and we haven't done any more.

So, I would say that if there's a big difference, it's that we We fell back into our boots of making people laugh with nothing, with the verb. Plus, I remember the first shows I saw you, let's say as a duo, the first time was in Quebec, at the DAG. And it fascinated me, I don't know why it's laughing. Why is it funny? It's not wanted to be a gag. But, let's say, you guys... You know, for me, at the time, I was someone to punch.

So I did, let's say, three... I had three laughs in the menu. You guys, you sometimes had eight in the menu. We were aiming for five. It was a mess that it was punching. You know, I was looking at jokes in a minute. It was a mess. It was a punch. I was looking at you and I was like, it's like every joke, all the fat,

there wasn't any. It was the exercise we were giving ourselves. And that's François Masticat at one point who had brought, in a meeting at the school of humor, when we were there, Dominique and I, François comes to talk about math. He says, I'm a mathematician. So I have so many gags per minute, and so many gags, and let's say the show, they're going to sing,

the show, there are so many gags in total, so I'm going to do more than they will, let's say. And it makes us say, OK, well, it's five gags per minute. That means you have 12 seconds to laugh. Sometimes there was a waterfall, there were eight, but it gave a kind of very supportive rhythm, which made you laugh at the gag, and at one point you laughed at the accumulation that was happening.

It made the delirium, the delirium was overflowing, but Guy Jodoin broke it a little. After three rounds, Guy entered our life, and he made it slow down too. There are silences that are shocking, so we have a little bit of a break, but we're still... Listen, our first show, I had calculated it,

we had 434 gags in 2 hours. And we were doing like... And for us, when we stopped playing for a month, a month and a half, we started again and we had a sore throat. Because our breath... At one point, I took like half a breath to say 4 words. And while Dominique was saying 3 words, I was taking a breath and... So you're...

And the first shows after the holiday or after the summer, let's say, we had a bar in the back, and we had some trouble. We were losing what we called the breath in our show. One year, there was breath, but there was no fat. It was really like, with a lot of precision, a lot of... And we kind of loosened it up a bit. That is, we do it again, but we give the people to breathe a little bit, and we... And there was something I learned, I think.

I saw you on the podcast, at Bois-Lord, and it was really good. And you were talking about the first few years, and I didn't realize that's what you were doing, but you were working so hard to do all the shows that had a great screen, that you have to write eight hours of material per year. What I was happy about Marc, is that at one point we got the bottom of the drawers. At one point when you do stand-up, you show your stock and you say, I have a record of material, I'm going to subdivide it in 8 minutes if possible,

for one or two TV captures, three captures. Then there's another one that joins, we always said yes because it was our way to get known. And then we're like, ok, but Chris, it's three gag, two gag, four gag, and there was no link between anything. And then we did like, look, we do this. A kind of pudding, a line, a punch, a machine gun. And listen, it's the first time in these shows that we have a standing. And then I did like, let's see, Kalvacher, you know when you say Celine Dion, let's say we're going to sing the button and it's going to be good, we had the impression of playing the button

and it laughed the same. We did like, there we understood that we were starting to catch something in our comic energy and in the strength of the rhythm. It was really, really important. And we, from the Concision, were apodres of the Concision, but at the extreme, really. So we lived with that. It made that...

And after that, we started writing. After that, we started writing in a more supportive way. At one point, I told Dominique, if we write each one of our daily gags, every day of our lives, that it's snowing, that it's Christmas or not, that it's your holiday, that your mother is dead, whatever. No, but independently of life. I had read biographies, let's say, of Picasso, Victor Hugo, these great monumental artists, they all do the same thing.

They get up in the morning and at at 1am, they work their art. One hour! And after that, they get bored the rest of the day at the bistro. Because you work like that, one hour after getting bored? But that's when we explode. But yeah, no, I... You know, like my last show, I don't even feel like I wrote it. It's written alone.

It's on stage, like you're at the border tonight, you're rowing. That's why I rarely compare myself to Picasso. But to Moustachio, yes. I'm like Moustachio. I drink a lot. With purple hair. With your blonde hair, right? It's not even my real hair. I just didn't want it to look like you're wearing your hair. I'm going to take one, but it's stuck.

I worked in a club in Ottawa, the director, whatever guy is. Did you work with Jason, Absolute Comedy? No, I just did the OKS. I was just... Yuck Yucks. Okay, because he's someone who says you need to have laughter every 30 seconds, but there's an app where you can put your jokes in, because he says like, Bill Burr, Jerry Seinfeld, they're going to show you how much laughter they have per minute, and you can put your jokes in and know where you are, and then start changing the way you work.

But it's a bit... I don't know if... do you think that every 30 seconds... Because you seem to be pretty punchy. People say you're American Stand-Up Emperor. For me, a thing that I realized that I always did naturally... At the time, we never talked about tags. So, you know, the part of the world was doing setup, punch, setup, punch, setup, punch. And the part of the world was trying to do setup, core, punch. I was doing long-stitch setups, but then I was doing punch, punch, punch, punch, punch. So, you know, you listen to one minute, you'll be like, oh, okay, there's just two laughs in that minute, but the other minute I have eleven.

So I try to add more gags in my business. And that's why I don't hesitate to go on tour. Every night I add gags. You have to ramify it every time. So I'm happy. The other night, I remember, I made a gag when I landed on stage, I said thank you, good evening, and then I... You taped it. I usually just record it, but I sent it to be sure I had it in text. The next morning, I wake up and I see 8, 9, 11, and I don't understand.

I'm like, what is this text? I'm like, oh yeah, it's true. The thing that is different in Quebec and in Ontario, I find that working in theaters, you really have to be an established comedian. It takes so long. You already said that for 10 years to be a comedian who does an hour. But here in Quebec, two weeks after school, you're like, one hour, right?

Everyone wants to do it, one hour. But I think it's... I'm starting to do theaters, and it's really incredible to go into theaters, because if you do a theater special, a stand-up in a theater, it's so different than when you do 40 minutes in a club. So it's cool to start working, to be in the mood and to work. Because as you said, you don't get tired of your 1 hour 30 minutes,

because you always have ways to go home with the audience, to do crowd work. But in clubs, I find, in English, that's my experience, there's so much pressure that you always have to be the best in the club. You have 20 minutes before you, two open micers, and everyone wants to try to plant you so you can retire. As I remember, Mike Patterson said he was hired to basically finish the career de plusieurs headliners, like just essayer de rentrer le plus fort que tu peux que le headliner va se suicider ce soir-là, you know? Ha ha ha!

Mais c'est, je trouve, c'est en bonne santé votre industrie ici au Québec. C'est en compération avec, et maintenant avec tout ce qui arrive politiquement, c'est j'espère qu'Anglais va, you know, they get their shit together. Il y a beaucoup de bienveillance des plus vieux. Quand j'entends parler ce que tu racontes toi, I hope that English will get their shit together. There's a lot of benevolence from the older people. When I hear you talk about what you're saying, and I know of the maximum money rooms we had,

where they made yucky yuck with it, and the older people want to eat it. No, it's also mafia, because you can't work in a club. You can work here, and in Terminal, in the club, it's not like that in English. You can't work in different clubs. But it's also because our industry is healthy. It's like we're eight and there's a piece of pizza that's as big as the other one. We're going to fight for it or we're going to die. But if it's a big pizza, you're going to be like,

Chris, I'm going to point at my own head. I'm going to get caught. I've never seen the relief like Tabarnak, because of him. We are also aware of the ecosystem in which we are. A broadcaster will call you, he will ask you for a hand for X, Y reasons. You will go. I think there is no distance between us. We are really all in the same boat. The young relief who arrives, the broadcaster and the established artist,

we are all in the same business, we are all in the same job, but we're all closer than we think. But it's not the same thing in English, I said to the club owner at Absolute Comedy, Oh, I saw a comedian, he's incredible. He said, Oh, you want to give him your three weeks this year? And I was like, Oh no, no, he sucks, he sucks. Because you want, we're forced to be in compete because there is only a little money for comedians. My first one-man show, you know, at the time we could do the summer in Gatineau. Yes, he had summer programs. So I did my summer in Gatineau. It was the first year that the room, at the time it was not called the audition room,

but we also did the le cégep. Puis l'éveiller faisait, François l'éveiller faisait le mois de juillet, puis Michel Bambara faisait le mois d'août. Puis l'éveiller il y avait un bon show, puis on s'entend. Moi à 22 ans, puis François l'éveiller on avait pas pantoute la même crowd. Encore aujourd'hui. Mais il m'aida à vendre des billets, puis moi je l'aida à vendre des billets. We didn't have the same crowd. But... Again today. But... Ha ha ha! But he helped me sell tickets.

And I helped him sell tickets. Because the people who came to see me were like, I love this! We were all in a fit of some sort. One day with an artist XYZ who is not our audience, but we shared those audiences. And it was the first show

for Michel Bambara. It was a good show. But the second show, he never went out. he just did his show in Gatineau. And the first night, there were horrible critics, and my sales were... I saw a big difference. I was more sold out. Instead of being full, I had tiers of rooms, half-rooms, people would leave their show and say, it's not that good, the rest of the world... It was boring. Yes, when you go to a good show, it gives you the taste to see another show.

But it seems that even when I was a young girl, I went to Vermont, there was a festival called Bread and Puppet. And they made bread on the site because they thought that theater was like bread. I think that here in Quebec, it's the same thing. The bread in Quebec is humor. And that's not like that in Ontario. It's not like that for the Ones Le Fun. I don't understand the...

I don't understand my English, but I'm hungry. No, imagine! Have you ever had a week where you haven't eaten bread? I find that in Quebec, it seems that the public... It's never happened. No, exactly. The public consumes humour in the same way we consume bread. It wasn't a good way to explain it. But you know what, I'm really impressed.

I was in Yamashish on Wednesday, a fucking truck stop and a 300-person theater. We don't have that in Starbucks in Ontario, in Ottawa, and a fucking show of humor in Starbucks. There's something that I find horrible about Canada, England, but in Quebec, all the cities with more than 5,000 inhabitants have a theater that makes sense. While in Ontario, even cities like Sudbury, which is a pretty big city, theater is a brown square. The second grade is perfect. Have you ever played at the NAC National Arts Centre? Yes.

How did you do it? Did you do your one man show? I did my first one with no one, which was a disaster. It was a 3-4 minute room. I think it was my last one, full cell phone. I like to hear that because I saw Jim Jeffries, Eliza Sleilinger, Seinfeld, but I've never seen an English-speaking humorist over there. I know Rachid Badouri did his thing. I did it there. I know Lou Jose did it there. But it's the French-speaking ones. I don't think the English-speaking ones did their thing before.

But that's the equivalent of our ODSI room. Yes, yes, yes. Not to be a, oh fuck you Canada, English-speaking, but you know, I'm depressed by, is that the right word? Oh, I'm not one. Depressed by the English-speaking, you know, spectators. But now I think, you know, the fact that Canada is very local, local-bought, it will have to be that the English-speaking Canadians understand that local-bought also means go see Canadian humor, seeing Canadian shows, buying albums. We'll see with Just For Laughter this year, right?

Because Just For Laughter, new owners and all that, we'll see if they'll engage more in anglophone humor, because we, the system that's created, is that we have to go to the United States to become celebrities. Yes, that's what's flat in Canada, English. The world is getting worse in the West, you're not a star in the truth. That's what's flat in English Canada. The world is getting mad at you for not being a star in the States. Oh yeah, look at all kinds of Derek Sagan and even Mike Patterson. They should be stars like you. You're stars. I'm a horizontal star.

Sorry. Sorry. You know what I mean? Like, we don't have... Jerry Dee is our biggest star and he, again, I did his first part in Gatineau, in the casino, but he checks his bookings. He's on Family Feud and he has a show. But that's one of the biggest stars and also Russell Peters, right? Who is in the United States, really. He's been working in Los Angeles for 20 years. And even Samantha Bee. Mustachio! Mustachio!

I love you Mustachio! I'm sorry, I'm sorry! Mustachio who plays at the Metrobéry. Who steals soup cans. Oh, that's sad! I'm sorry Mustachio, I'll lend you some money. Yeah, and then you look at Mustachio and you're like, I'm sure he hid the card in his pocket. Oh no, it's a soup can.

And then... They don't seem to be the guy who's gonna steal fucking soup, but you never know. Yann, do you have another question? Yeah, there are two left. There's one for Rachel. It's Alexandre who asks, could you tell us your worst show in Joe the Magician?

Oh shit, okay. You did the magic yourself? Yeah, I was... For eight years I did a show called Joe the King of Broadway, Even Idiots... No, Joe the Perfect Man, Even Idiots Have Dreams. It wasn't really... I took a class with Philippe Collier,

I did a character... Philippe Collier, it's been a couple of times you talk about him. That's a... He's a clown teacher in Europe. Yes, a clown. He was at the Le Coq school. Oh, there's a Ph.D. in Coq! That's Coq with a Q. And then his biggest celebrities were Emma Thompson and Borat.

When he wrote his book, Borat said thank you. Emma Thompson? Emma Thompson, yeah. So he's really famous. And I took a class with him and he said, come to a class with enthusiasm that no one will recognize you. So I arrived like Joe, the perfect Joe, just a little bit, not in it. And he said, you saw him on the gong show. I think it's the third gong show.

How did you not have teeth? Imagine nail polish, but for the teeth. I said, take your teeth out. You just came in black. I went into class with that. I was always, I was a loser for many of my school, but I convinced my best friend to go with me. So I had a lot of failures. I had a lot of failures, but in this class, I was for the first time, everyone was partying. I had two children, I meditated for an hour,

two hours a day. I was an A+. Everyone thought I was a loser, but when you're going to see me, don't fuck with me. Exactly! So I did Joe and really... But it's a teacher of insults. He insults everyone. He says, you do a scene, we do musical chairs, and the last person who doesn't have a chair, the exercise is that he would say, you are a cow. You didn't dig for 20 years. You want to dig someone. Now you're going to make a sound to tell everyone you want to dig. And that's what you have to do. You have to make a sound that's going to be sexy. And he's like,

Tu es comme un cheval qui fourre un autre cheval. Like, he was like, crazy. Alors, mais, il y avait des personnes qui rentraient sur la scène et qui... Emma Thompson a fait ça. Elle a fait ça. Parce que, il y avait un ami de moi, elle fait son cours pour un an. Et chaque fois, il disait, A friend of mine did his class for a year and every time he said, Is it the most incredible performance you've seen? Or is it not feasible?

And everyone in the class, 60 people, said it's not feasible. For a year it wasn't feasible. It's so much before the Me Too. No it's so! He's cancelled! He's cancelled for sure. You'd have to do it, I wouldn't admit it. He said, it's hunting time, she's a fucking deer, are you going to kill her or not? And they're like, kill her, kill her.

So it was the first time I got success, I was playing Joe, and every time I asked him, can I change a character? He said, no, you play him for life until he dies. And I was like, really? I have to play this homeless man? So he said, he was the only person in the class who said, do a 90 minute show. My director, a very good friend, Adam Lazarus, was there. So we did a 90 minute show. And we had a great success with this character, Joe the Perfect Man.

We did that for eight years. And finally I was like, holy shit, I'm married to a gynecologist, I have two teenagers, like fuck Joe, I have to talk about myself. So I took off. So I didn't answer this question. The worst, the worst experience I've had, I did the Fringe Festival and I arrived at Saskatoon and the guy who was doing the tech was a fashion designer. So he didn't know how to do lighting design. So I had 32 light cues in my show and I went in for opening night. There was a full, like great crowd and I did my show and the first cue, he played 32 light cues. So I was like, oh shit, and I just, I just, I just...

It made me like a crisis. Exactly. I played a Caesar and I fell on the ground. So it's terrible. But the next day, I did a show, the same show for five people, and at that time, the other critic, like me, I went to Alberta, Edmonton, just after, and there was one critic there,

and I had so much trouble the day before, I said, fuck it, it doesn't matter if there are five people, I have to give my show, I have to be incredible, fuck it, 30 people like me. I still had a niche that loved me, and I give my show, I have to be incredible. Fuck it, 30 people like me. I still had a niche that I liked and I did my show. I did so well and a critic came after. He said, hey, by the way, I'm a critic from Alberta. I gave you a 4-star review. Bravo, you're amazing.

And my friend said, you just sold out your whole run in Alberta. I got to Alberta. I had full scenes because he was a critic who knew... So I learned something a lot from doing this... This bad show? Yeah, it was bad. Sorry, I am anglophone fuckers. We wouldn't have said that.

I know it's not always easy to say, but it was really me and my father always told me, my father was Daïti, very passionate, intense, and he always told me, if you can meet with triumph and disaster and meet these two imposters just the same, then you'll be a man, my son. I was like, I'm a woman. But anyhow, I learned because… It's like France for an Asian. You're not expecting that. Anyhow, j'ai appris... C'est drôle comme France pour un haitien. Ça t'en va pas. Mais tu sais, j'imagine que tu comprends ça.

Si tu écoutes tes bad reviews, tu dois toujours écouter tes bons reviews. Alors moi, avec des reviews, parce que dans le Fringe, ça va vraiment affecter combien de biais que tu vas vendre. Moi, j'ai appris dans tous mes tournées, mes cinq tournées tours outside of Canada, I learned that if you listen to your shitty reviews, you gotta listen to your good ones.

So I became a real artist, I was consistent for the first time in my career. That's cool. Yann, last question. Yes, it's for Martin. Why are you always there? If you were looking for your keys. You really looked like you were coming.

You know, yesterday I went to a restaurant and there was a dresser. And when I got there, I grabbed my coat. The guy really did the move you just did. Oh no, it's because he was next to me and it's not clear. Can you ask if you found negative reviews in your career that affected you? How do you manage all that? Because you've had a lot of publicity. I was lucky. I've had some bad ones, but the critics have been good in general, but the chroniclers have always hated me.

You're a jerk. I'm starting to be anglophone. I'm ready for the absolute. His son goes out with an Haitian. He knows what you're saying. I've always hated the chroniclers. But why? I realized that if you listen to what I say, you think,

Oh, okay, it's a gag. But if someone tells you what I said, you're like, He's a jerk, he's a moron. You're like, fuck, he's worse than Sylvain Laroque. What the fuck, that's traumatizing. I'm sorry Sylvain, I'm sorry. Oh my god, I feel bad. Yeah, that's it. So I was there for a long time,

as soon as I saw my name in an article, I stopped reading it. As soon as I was like, OK, it's going to be an insult. And then, at that time, it's been a couple of years, and now I'm getting angry. Sometimes I see things, they talk about me, and it's negative, and I get angry. But you're going to read them. No! I'm fine! If I fall for it, you know, I keep reading the article, but I was there for a long time and as soon as I saw my name, I stopped reading. I stopped reading when I saw your name.

But do you read your ads, your reviews? No, because it's like Mike, it must be... The last time I read a criticism, it was an extremely mean one from Jean-Bournoyer during the press conference. With our second show. And it really got me because it was the only really negative criticism of our show. And then I was there. In fact, I understood quite quickly that I wasn't doing the show for them. I feel so much that we don't even do the premiere of the show.

Journalists can always come to my show and criticize it, but I wouldn't put them on the spot. Instead of giving them the chance to give me a slap, stay home, I'll do a show and that's it. So I don't even do any premiere because it doesn't have an impact on the tickets we sell or on the audience we've built over the years. It's been 32 years since we've done a show. So at some point, there's a faithful crowd following us

and we're lucky about that. But the criticism, for real, is something... We realized that when we were doing a premiere, it was the only show that was annoying us. It was the show that was putting us upside down. The buttons pushed us in the face, and we were anxious, and we didn't sleep for two weeks. For a show that there's a crowd, half of the room is given, and they won't laugh. Because they're going to analyze, because they're going to do the same thing as I'm able to do. So we stripped that of our lives.

There's nothing to do with the other 200 shows of the tour. Why do we do that? We hurt ourselves. But it doesn't affect the sales of goods? I've always told our producers, if you think you need a premiere to sell the show, we'll do it for you. But if you think it doesn't change anything, we won't do it for us. And we do it as we don't do it. My last tour, I wasn't going to do a first media tour.

The only reason I did one was that I didn't know we were doing this. But you know, the record in their calendar, they mark the first media of such and such. And then when I saw my name on the site of the address, I thought, hey, I thought we weren't doing the first media. And then my press attache said, oh yes, I can call the world to say, finally, there is none. But if I do that, it's going to make them shit. So then I said, okay, my goal is not to make journalists shit. So I said, okay, let me, you to piss you off, journalists. So I said, OK, let me...

When I was editing that show, I said, let me do it again. And when I was singing, I was like... I was telling myself, I don't think critics will like that show, but I don't think I'll be picked up. And I said, OK, invite them. Because otherwise, we wouldn't have invited Because if we hadn't invited them... They wouldn't have engaged. I would have looked like the guy who said,

hey, we're doing our first media. Oh no, we're not doing it anymore. He would have said, Chris, it shouldn't be good. Just before we have the last question, I made some banana bread. My children are not at home, so I have to beat someone up. Banane. Mes enfants sont pas chez moi alors je dois materner quelqu'un. Et Yann, j'ai un petit pain de banane pour toi aussi. Oh nice. Elle nous nourrit comme ça avant que tu es chaud.

You know, je sais, Mister Chio est pas ici, mais moi j'ai un tour de magie. Why not? Mais I have cards with... Because I think we have Crimes Against Humanity, Cars Against Humanity. I made cards for humanity. Because I think communication is difficult. And I made little cards with jokes from my show. But it's fun sometimes when you pick up a card. And you've never picked up a card.

Do you have a card? No? You don't up a card. And you never picked up a card. Do you have a card? No? You don't have a card. Ok, so you can pick up a card. There's a joke on it. Ok. Unhook it. If you have kids at home or someone stays at your place for too long, unhook it please. I love this expression.

Because get the fuck out, it's not as cute. Give it to Dominique tomorrow. Oh, touch me flat. If you take a blowjob for two weeks, you draw your penis on it. And it says touch me flat. You leave it on your ear, you'll have a blowjob. From who, for example? Just...

It's stressful. I don't want to eat moustache. I'm like, oh yeah, it's good to stick it on. How come my hair falls off my hands? I also have, I'm a fool, my mother, Melody and I have the flat on the ground. Or, take my father behind. Is there one you prefer? I see, wait...

I'm fuckable my mom says so. Ok, ok, there you go. I'm fuckable. My mom says so. Okay, okay, there you go. I'm fuckable. My mom always said I was a bad rapper. Well, I think that's the last question. Or was there one? There's one left. Okay, there's one left.

We'll do the last question. Yes, it's Marc-André who asks, are you going to put one day the episodes of your sitcom on a streaming platform and is a sequel to your sitcom possible? The sequel, we wanted to make one. It's getting harder and harder to make TV and I don't think if we still have the taste to do that. And unfortunately, there is no more episode of what we did that exists. It was the property of Pointe Finale, which was a production house attached to TQS at the time. It was bought, it was sold. We wanted to release it on DVD when it was in fashion.

Did you have it on DVD? No, I never watched it. There is one episode of my whole life where I found myself unbearable. I can't even hear myself on the radio. It's scary. I listened to one episode on TV with the sound at 2. It was on September 12, 2001. So you had a sitcom with several people, you and Dom. And for three years. But I never watched any episode of that.

I played it, I wrote it, we were in it. But unfortunately, no. There's also Simon Portalance who got a lot of stock. I think there's a chain around where they are. But I don't have a control. Yes, because the Rimiards were getting rid of all the cassettes. So they got a lot of stock. They all did that. Surely André Gloutenay has that. Probably. André Gloutenay is the one who killed just for fun.

Oh, he's the one who said you have to give me money. But it's a funny name, Gloutenay. Gloutenay, yeah. Gloutenay. Not as much as Moustachio, but still. I like that she's like, Gloutenay, it's ridiculous. I was talking about the author of Moustachio, but still. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I like that she's like... Gloutenay, that's ridiculous. I was talking about the author of Moustachio. And...

Oh wow, Moustachio, I've seen the star. But André, André, which I think is a nice name, Gloutenay too, it's not bad. But he recorded everything. It was... It was the reference. I was at school. I went to the school of humor with him the same year.

You did it his year. I did it his year. And when we finished, right away, he became like the kind of... not a librarian, let's say, of humor, but around the world. There was really a collection. He listened to everything he could from 1993, let's say. Everything that was done in England, England, America, Australia, France, everything in Europe. He brought everything together. VHS tape, WICOM. It's him that Seinfeld, Seinfeld Chronicles' pilot, NBC didn't have it.

He had lost it. Nobody had it. And then someone said, hey, there's a guy in Montreal, at Just for Laughs, who records everything. So the NBC contacted him and André had it. So he did it. He's the pilot for Findout. Do you know how much he paid for it? Well, I think there was a contract. It's that Gilbert had offered a contract of, I think, 75,000 per year just to record everything. Oh, I was going to ask, did Gilbert touch men or just women?

He touched... I'm asking myself, did he touch you? Yes. No, no, he never touched me. He touched you in every way. Did he touch you? No. Just women? No, he never touched me.

He was always very short with me. Did someone touch you? My blonde. I'm always curious because I talk about it on stage too. I had a lot of penis surprises. I never had any. You never had any surprise vaginas? Never had a surprise vagina. You've never had a surprise vagina? Never had a surprise vagina either.

I think I heard you talking about a lady who tattooed her vagina with your name or something. No, there was a girl one day, I was doing the first part of Eric Lapointe, and she was waiting in the line-up for the autographs. She just lowered her hips and asked, Can you sign my vagina? She gave me a dick and then I did... A dick? Not even a Sharpie? A dick!

Then I did... I just tapped the person next to me and said, She told me to sign her vagina. Then I saw her, her ass was down. Was she a bush or a Brazilian? You have to write real close-up in this one. We're going to end the team, thank you so much! Cheers you guys! Thank you Mike,! Cheers, you guys! Cheers!

Thank you, Mike, thank you, Martin. Thank you, Melanie. Cheers, you guys. Thank you, everyone. No, you can keep that. Keep that for you. Thank you. The End