Mike Ward Sous Écoute - #529 - Martin Petit et Claude Legault
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live from the Bordel Comedy Club in Montreal, here is Mike Ward, under listening.
Thank you very much everyone. Good evening. Welcome to Mike Ward under listening.
This week is the 10th anniversary of the Bordel. The B The mess has been 10 years, I would like that.
Let's go!
I want to thank all my partners.
It really changed my life.
Thank you very much.
Oh yes, we're going to celebrate.
This is for the 10th anniversary.
This is the only reason I have my drink.
But yeah, I was thinking about that, you know, the mess.
There was really, I felt a before mess and an after mess for the environment.
You know, I think there was, you know, there was a couple of things that even marked the mood.
There was the festival, I don't know why, there was the before Festival, after Festival,
there was the A.A. Monday, before, after, the school of humour before and after, the Me Too.
That also made sense.
The brothel has completely changed my life, especially with the help of the sub-listeners.
The sub-listeners existed before the mess, but I don't know if I would have started again
if it wasn't for the mess. And if I had started it, I don't know if it would have had the same impact.
I don't think so. I think it's important to do this here with you.
So thank you very much to you all for really helping the quality of life.
And I saw what, and then I will introduce the guests, I saw what this week in the newspaper, which talked about the ten years of the brothel,
and the title of the newspaper Le Montréal was
the most important moments of the brothel.
It was written Yvon Deschamps, sous-écoute, and the Gang Show.
And I was like, damn, that's really hot for Charles Deschamps,
that the Gang Show is part of that.
I was like, I'm opening this, I'm like, who wrote this?
It was Charles Deschamps.
But I was happy in his list.
He said the 10 things that had been written.
The podcast, he talked about Preach, who was the doorman when we opened the mess.
Then he started doing open mics, and then he started his YouTube channel,
and his life changed.
I'm very happy, I'm really happy.
I'm going to introduce you to my guests right away,
because one of my guests is one of my partners here.
Tonight, I'm excited because both of them
are listening for the first time.
There's one of them who has already done
the V1 of listening, at the time it was on Skype,
and everything was badly filmed,
but it's the first time.
I'm very happy. It's two good chums.
I think it's going to be a big, big, big, big podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen, here are Claude Legault and Martin Petit. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for being here.
Alright!
It must be fun, a welcome from Mike.
Yes, it cost me a lot of money.
It's all family.
Thank you.
10th anniversary.
Congratulations, Mike.
Thank you. Congratulations, Mike.
10th anniversary.
10th anniversary of this mess.
As Mike said, it started with one scene,
it made two scenes.
And since it's thanks to people, we thought, we need to highlight it, but we don't have a shooter glass.
But we are able to offer...
We're going to offer champagne.
We're going to offer champagne.
Not...
Correct?
That's not possible.
No, no, no, but maybe we misunderstood. Not for you!
Yeah, that's right!
It's not for us!
It's not for us, we deserve it!
We can afford that!
It's cheap as hell!
No, it's not that cheap!
And I don't even know if we have...
Do we have champagne? But we'll if we have... Do we have that? Do we have champagne?
But we're going to give you...
Do we have champagne?
Do we have champagne?
If we have champagne, give us champagne.
We're not going to be cheap.
I'm going to...
The mess has been closed.
No, no, but I'm going to pay...
I'm going to pay with the money from the sub-sales.
Okay.
Because otherwise... We don't know how you manage. I'm going to pay for that with the money from my sub-sales. Otherwise, if it's 9,000$ of champagne, it's hard to pay for it.
It's like they're getting out of the crystal. You're really in trouble.
But in my opinion, the best champagne in a comedy club must be accessible.
I don't think anyone would come here and...
It's not a dance champagne.
I don't think Formula 1 drivers come here.
Usually not.
I wonder about that.
The prize is gone.
But...
Do you know how much is the most expensive champagne here?
Here?
150 dollars. 150 dollars anyway!
The green one.
Yes, yes, yes.
Oh, that's it?
Yes, yes, but we'll call Laurent and we'll apologize afterwards.
That's it.
Hey, you have the health.
Yes, thank you.
Hey, health!
Health!
Bravo!
Thank you very much for being here.
Are you... I don't know...
Do you look like you're analyzing
as if you're like there's one ingredient in the bag?
No, they were hungry because I said no alcohol,
because when I drink, I get drunk.
So I'm analyzing.
But no, it's very good.
It's very good, bravo. I don't know where they are.
But no, it's really good. It's really good, bravo, I don't know where they are.
Gouléant.
A nice dress.
It's the first time I see a review of Virgin Caesar.
I was waiting for the grade.
But no, it's good.
What would you rate it out of 10? I'd give a big 8.
But on TikTok, Claude Legault does virgin tests.
It could be...
You're the other guy who does the pudding, and you do the virgins.
It could be flat enough.
I'd give you...
You'd give me? Not me.
I'd give you 30 seconds per week.
Especially, it would be sick if it was always a can.
So it's clearly the same recipe.
Today we test drive something that has no alcohol.
Alright.
Oh yes.
Yes.
The glass was not clean.
There is some straw.
Yes, that's it.
When there is no vodka in it, you just make a fruit juice.
That's it.
It's sure you taste it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
A margarita for children.
It smells like a bar and bar in Estonia.
Do you know any of the Segep or the second hand?
Damn, Arnouch! I know...
Segep?
Yes, Sege 16. I had to go back to the Cégep in 17 and 2 days.
I had to meet Claude in 17 and 4 days. It was my first coach. It was the coach that left a team that still exists today,
and that my son faced this week in the Claude Legault gym.
It's a gym in Montmorency called the Le Traque gym, and now it's become the Claude Legault gym.
There are pictures of Claude.
Wow, that must be something.
There are a couple of pictures of Martin too.
A couple of pictures of Martin, yeah, but...
But otherwise, you're really...
That's your room.
How long has Claude Legault's room been like this?
It must have been... 6 years? 7 years?
Does he call you to tell you or ask for permission?
In fact, he calls you to tell you,
we're going to do this.
I remember that year,
they called me for this,
and one year, Cinéma Québec calls me,
we're going to give you an honorary title too.
I'm there, I'm at the table,
I think they know what my health is.
Oh yeah, that's it.
We talked at the clinic, and we're going to give you a rabbit too.
The government that wants to give you a medal, it's going to end your business.
Take your prearrangements.
But no, no, I did ok, ok, but this time I was not humble, I was just a little shy.
After that you do like a bugger.
I take it.
I sucked in that room anyway.
Well, you gave it.
You started improvising at the Cégep Montmorency.
You coached talent like me.
You were patient.
Quality talent.
No, no, no. You invested a lot you've invested a lot of time, so you've put a quarter and a half in...
You know, young people talk about the C-Job Momoransi.
Some people sign up for the C-Job to go pro.
That's true.
Because Claude started that, it's not common, you know.
For a game that no one can make a living with...
Apart from Real Bosser.
Real played for 22 years.
Yeah, in the pro world. Yeah, yeah. But, he played 22 years. He employed us in improv.
It gave us employment.
It's a nice active benevolent.
But it also trains your muscles for humor and for the game too.
For writing too.
Yes, yes, yes.
Even because it's automatic writing.
It's complete, let's say, as a game.
It doesn't make sense as a game.
The truth is that this activity has no sense.
To ask someone to do a show without text,
they don't know anything in advance.
Chris, it's really boring to do that to someone, really.
And you do that to two teams.
And you have to be better than the other, but without fucking up and being too rough.
It's just not nice.
It's like there were two podcasts at the same time, and the world judges which one is the best.
No, no, it's so hard to do improv. I've always admired anyone who dared to play this game.
When people say, is it hard to make fun of it, I mean, I've been working on my text for a year and a half before doing it for an hour and a half.
In impro, you do a show for an hour and a half, you didn't know anything beforehand. It's not going to...
I mean, it's for sure you're going to go somewhere else.
Seriously, the kick of the improvisation is hard to find elsewhere. The kick of a big game.
That's it, it's drugs.
You're going to get a drug from...
Do you still play sometimes?
I play games once a year.
Sometimes we play college with the old people.
We are the old people.
Excuse me, I'm old.
I like that you still see young people.
Sometimes we play college with the old people.
It's great to play with others.
But yes, sometimes we play against the I tell myself, hey, I'll say, it's going to make people laugh 5 minutes,
by stressing for 4 days, because I was stressed 4 days before, 4 days after.
And the improv, it must be, you know, this muscle, if you play just twice a year,
it must be less solid than when you play every Saturday.
It's less there, it's less there,'s less there, but when I stopped doing improv, in 2003, I retired in 2003.
I hung up on my running.
You've been in sandals since then, that's what's surprising.
You're in go-goon, and it doesn't do me any good.
But no, I needed everything. I put a lot of energy, you too, in improv matches,
a lot of energy because it stresses a lot before. You stress to death just before boarding, and a lot of energy, you too, in the pro matches, a lot of energy because it stresses you a lot before.
You stress to death just before boarding and a lot after.
Because you analyze your gains, you say, ah, well...
I should have said that.
Four days I should have said that.
Oh yeah, that's horrible.
It's unbearable.
Yeah.
Four days, seriously, four days.
You're there in the bus, oh yeah, but if my turtle had said...
Look. Who think of that?
But there's something that I've never missed in improv,
it's the after games.
Where you're sitting at the table and...
We didn't really care about that, but there you have all those who played in the evening
and who come and who make up the game game again, and the cut-out.
But from the bottom of it... Excuse me, but they destroy the scene of the game for an hour and a half, and it doesn't stop.
But you're like, holy crap, stop it now. It's over. It's done. We move on to the next one.
And it's like... it analyzes. It doesn't work. And big chicanes, you know, chicanes of the pros, because it chicanes all the time.
Oh yeah, a lot of health care.
But, but I, I, you see, there's something I learned in improv that I applied in humor after.
It's Jean-François Paradis, at the university league.
I was, I was, I was at the CIS and then I went to the university league.
So there's Claude, there's Real Bosset, there was older people than me and it impressed me.
I was probably white in the front of the house, I was doing the 100-foot and I was scared.
When you see someone's face, I don't trust it anymore.
Then he came to see me and he was very wise.
He said, hey, you know, it's an impro game. And he said, I guarantee you that the day after the impro game,
there's no one in the room who will ever think of you for the rest of the days.
And he was right.
It never happened that I saw an impros and three weeks later I was like, Oh, it's like when you made a vampire, huh?
The world, it's an instant pleasure and then it's over.
Yes, that's right.
And it's not that we rush into life, it's when we think people stay with a memory of the time you were fucking your ass.
Which is not the case.
No, people stay with the good improvisations.
People in general.
But even for humor,
I used to think about that,
let's say, if you're stressed,
I hope people will like that,
if they like it, that's good.
If they don't like it,
that's good too.
It makes them a story to tell.
When I was reading my show...
Yes, I can tell you, I'm better than my quirk, Chris.
I was saying, someone who sees me, I complain. It's a story.
To make, hey, what's wrong with Asti?
Chris, he doesn't give Olivier a name for anyone.
Exactly.
The standards are there.
Every time when I went to see the famous comedians at Just For Laughs,
I saw Chris Rock get into it and I was happy.
I was like, tabarnak!
That's what's being done right now, the best on the planet.
And in the evenings, he's not good either.
So it reminded me that there's no one perfect.
I like to see people get into trouble for that.
Well, you're a very good coach.
You're a very good Canadian coach.
We would never be serious, but you would always be positive after the game.
It's rare for guys to lose 14 games in a row, but you did it!
Bravo!
Bravo, guys!
Bravo! No one can be better than you in the national league right now.
We didn't put a single roundel on the net tonight.
No one did that before us.
Who did the perfect job?
Who does the perfect job? Yeah.
Did you happen to have some impros that became digital?
Especially at the beginning...
Jean-Michel Anctil, yes.
Jean-Michel Anctil made some impros and I think he did the crossover.
I think it's one of the few that succeeded.
Yeah, because in stand-up it's a bit...
It's completely different.
It's weird.
It's like doing stand-up in impro.
Everyone looks at you and says, Christ, you're yourself.
I had won a trophy, the one he never does as a character.
So I succeeded.
So I went on stage, I was like, hey, I'm a firefighter.
Everyone says you don't have the choice to deal with it, but there was no firefighter.
You know, it was the same as the factor of the pros before, but people say, a big nose is funny.
So I got out of it, but you know, I wasn't a specialist.
You were dancing all your impros by saying, who are you?
I was saying, who am I? I'm a dragon, don't piss me off.
It made things clear.
We were giving each other cues. I was his coach.
I said, Martin, when you get home, you have five minutes.
Take the time to give a context.
Like, we're in the Middle Ages.
You get ready and let people think you're in the Middle Ages.
Imagine, it's a horse already. You're like, he's on a horse, you're in the Middle Ages. Imagine, it's a horse already.
You're like, he's on a horse, we're in the Middle Ages.
After that, make your big nose the same, but in the Middle Ages.
You're already there, and you say, where's the princess?
We have a goal. We're looking for the princess in the Middle Ages, on a horse.
Exactly. But if you hurt yourself, everyone will think...
You don't look like you need a princess.
You found the princess.
Did you find God in improv? Or your character?
I found the church.
Is that true?
No.
How is God born?
That's a good question.
God...
Tonight, I'll explain how God was born.
He was born in a show we did for the 10th anniversary of the Mime.
Oh, yes.
I was hosting the Mime at the André Mathieu Hall,
the movement of improvisation at the time.
It was just a voice-off.
God.
It was the same voice I was taking after that,
which was in a sketch I was doing with Christian Langevin,
where he was doing Jesus,
who was being kidnapped by the Romans.
But the Romans... Like in real life?
Yes, the Romans were a bit like today.
So the guys had lost their makita to screw it on.
So everyone was struggling.
They came to screw it on and they were like,
Ah, it was the post of the union, they were the guys of the city.
So Jesus was waiting, it's really long.
And then Jesus finally intervened, and. Jesus came and spoke with him.
It started the same.
The next year I did another number.
I wrote it in eight.
I said to myself, I'm going to do it live.
That's when I found a whole bunch of money.
I got a coat of arms. The first year the money was just a blanket, a white cloth, I imagine. That's when I found myself a very rough It started there, for fun. I wrote it in one night. It worked so well the next day that I presented it to Just Pour Ré in the summer.
They usually pissed me off.
Really?
Oh man, Just Pour Ré was always there. I was always the backbencher. Yes, we'll put you on a stage, but over there, outside,
while a band plays next to you.
It was often like that.
But I was in the band and you were good.
I know.
My mimics were good because you didn't want to hear much.
We were listening to your rap.
It was crazy.
So yeah, it was not...
They put me in the pre-gala at some point.
I prepared my number of gods and I arrived in the pre-gala and it worked.
I thought that next year they would invite me to the gala.
It took longer than... Well, no. Oh, it's more than that. I've never really been bankable.
I was at the beginning.
I wasn't always in the good.
What's special about your character of God,
I wonder if it's not the last...
The last example in Quebec culture where someone got censored for religious reasons.
When you did your talk show at TQS, they did one show, there was... one show?
We did three or four shows, but we had to do ten.
The others hid on Friday night at 10 o'clock without advertising, just to get a tax credit.
They had to go through the same thing.
But that's for reasons, we understand.
Yes, we had threats.
Did you have a lot of threats?
Not bad, not bad.
Today, I had 200,000.
Because Mike and Mike are on the range of threats.
That's it!
I'm not talking about you. I'm not in the same league.
We're talking about the hockey league and the national hockey league.
But we're talking about threats from a group that has 10 rules, and one of them is, don't kill.
So you're like, go fuck yourself, you're not going to do anything.
What are they going to do?
They're liars, so they might kill you like that.
I trust them.
When your religion is the power.
It's not like you're playing back to the wall.
Were the threats coming to you?
There was no network, so it helped us a little, but we received letters, letters came in, we received an envelope, the Capitonni-Brune envelopes.
Brune and inside there was a... a wood?
It was shit.
Oh! He put his shit in there! He didn't want the crotch to break.
He wanted to go to Tabarouette. He put his dick in a bag.
It was worth it.
The bags were brown.
He ripped the bag off.
We received that.
It must have been an immediate reading of the situation.
Oh yeah.
Because Chris has cond reading of the situation. Oh yeah. Because Chris has a condensation of shit.
It should have been a... Fuck, it's shit!
But it's not for me that they received it, it's the gang over there.
Pierre Yves with his humor, Pierre Yves Bernard with whom I wrote most of the things in my life,
he said to me, he said, Oh, we're in shit.
And it was true.
And we received things that you see in movies, letters, with sticky letters.
Oh yeah, like a death threat.
And one was like, in my country, you would already be dead.
And I was like, well, take off your clothes in your country.
In my country, you keep your hair, but where does it come from?
It came from Canada, I never understood.
We had a couple of religious congregations, priests who made petitions.
But shit, who gets shit?
Me.
I wonder, you know, when you have two ways to open a letter.
You open, you look where you take the letter, directly.
So, the person I hope did like, oh well, yeah, okay.
Do you give me an idea that since then I've opened the letters differently?
Yeah, yeah.
With a pair of gloves, man, gloves, gloves.
Yeah.
If you have time, we'll send you the contract via email.
It's not going to be via email.
That's fine.
You'll do it via email.
That's wonderful.
I had a security guard.
When we were shooting our last day,
I had a guard who was escorting me from the parking lot
when I got to my room.
He was waiting for me.
He was following me in the parking lot.
He was following me to my lodge. He was staying there, next to my lodge.
I was getting my make-up done, he was there, I was going to the studio, he was staying there.
One day, I said, I have to go to the toilet.
But he was going to the toilet.
And you know...
What did you do today?
I went downstairs and he had a hole in his... Oh yeah? He's like, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, He said, he's here to protect me. An efficient terrorist could have gotten in the bowl.
Yes.
I said, if he had done that, he deserved to kill me.
But for him, once your day was over, he brought you back to your tent.
He didn't find anything.
Yes, that's it. A killer just waits for him to be at his house.
I'll fight with his gun.
I had a baseball bat in my car.
A baseball bat and a big goaller stick.
A goaller stick, it's a lot.
But it's sure to happen with a gun.
Except it's long to go out, for example.
You're like a police officer.
Stay there!
Baseball stick, but were you a kid or a kid?
No, no, it was a good one.
In aluminum. A big one.
Nothing happened.
Nothing happened.
Get out of my way with my big one.
And then when you took the character back,
after a couple of years,
I think it was still Grand Rire Bleu
or maybe Grand Rire,
you were animating with La Roque, Dieu et le Dien.
I did six animations
together with...
There was no more shit?
No, live, we never had any problems.
It was when it was on TV.
It was the character of God, yes, that attracted problems,
but it was the sketches we did on the imaginary conceptions.
It didn't go well.
Marie, who was in love with the Holy Spirit,
then she was in a mess afterwards because she had then went to Marnac because he had a baby
and he had to call his heart.
It went badly.
Jesus who didn't want to go back
and said fuck you, I'm not going back
because you're sick.
It went badly.
All biblical revisions went badly.
It went wrong. Yeah. It went wrong. There was a woman who wrote something wonderful for me.
She sent me a document of about 12 pages.
There were little medals of saints.
You know, all saints.
Of saints.
She hung them after that.
And she explained how she was forgiving me.
And how God would forgive me if I really took the right path.
All kind, until the end.
She wanted to see my soul burning. It would be funny to learn the one who shat in the other envelope.
Madam, you're too much. Let's see.
It's because my aunt is sister and I saw my aunt shat in an envelope for three seconds. Madame Tetreault, voyons donc! C'est parce que ma tante est sœur,
pis j'ai vu ma tante chier d'une enveloppe pendant trois secondes.
Ah, c'est elle?
Non, mais c'est ça que j'ai vu!
C'est ça que j'ai vu, elle était tellement sweet.
T'aimes tellement Dieu que ça se fait pas rire de lui.
Tu chies.
Moi, j'aime.
Y'a aucune cause qui me tient assez à cœur pour chier d'une enveloppe. You shit. I like it. There's nothing that keeps me in my heart enough to shit in an envelope.
There's nothing. You know, no matter what war it is, I'm like, hey, look at these people.
But not enough to maybe cut my throat.
And it happened, it happened in paradise. And in paradise, when they came in, they did like...
The shit thing was maybe a little too much.
Oh yeah, that's right!
But it was to protect you, sir.
Yes, but...
I let you pass, but I saw you shit in a envelope and...
We lowered the standards, but honestly...
Since I'm everywhere, I'm forced to hit myself in the face.
Stop it.
You lived a little the same thing last year, but not in live.
Yes, that's it.
No, I didn't have an excrement at that point.
You were just people here who were...
Because I lived on January 7th, around...
No, I was here, I was in show here.
I was doing my full show. And then there were about twenty pro-Palestinian protesters who came.
And then, yeah, that's it.
So when it happens, you say, I'm in it, everything's fine.
But I found it really flat for people who came.
Well, yeah, yeah.
You know, couples who come to see a show and who pass through the Palestinian flags
that fly and people with megaphones and people who...
I found it intimidating for people to see a mass of anyone. After that, when you zoom I zoomed in on who it was. I wasn't scared. It was...
I received a lot of messages saying,
my neighbor is a queer filmmaker
who was there and she sends me Facebook links
and it's all people that you could play with.
They're not mean.
It doesn't pose a danger to society.
But in groups, disguised, with flags and stuff, I was thinking...
But in the end, people came.
The audience went through, we had a great evening.
Except that, to get briefed by the entire M.E.U.T. squad,
just before boarding the stage, saying,
if you see me and I arrive,
I'll give you a chance, I'm already prepared.
In an hour and a half, you call me,
I change my name, you live in...
You're all new.
I live in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu,
you're a factor.
I'm used to it, I did some improv.
And...
There was a lot of money spent on that, which I found sad.
You were also... it was a bit of a mess.
It was the consequence of what I posted on YouTube for my end-of-year review.
But what you were doing that night...
Oh, it had nothing to do with it.
Was it a mess show or were you still night... Oh, it had nothing to do with it? No, but was it a show you were still in?
I was at the end of my show, A World Better,
and the content was not...
There's nothing, I'm not talking about Palestine in my show,
but I think they made a link between humorism and me,
and it's a link that I don't understand.
That's it, they wanted... I just want to say that when your show is not well-done,
you have a natural stress that is added.
And then having two minutes before the police...
How do you live with that?
To do, OK, I'm going to go...
OK, were you very nervous at the same time
that someone got up to go to the bathroom?
No, I did improvise. Maybe that's it.
The stress of going through this stress.
I couldn't be insecure.
There was a cordon of police officers in the corridor.
Montreal spent a lot of money that night for my safety and the safety of the public.
I've never been as protected in my life as I have that night.
We had fun.
When these things happen, you think, okay, the effect doesn't matter.
When people do that, they want to destabilize you.
They want you to shut up. They want you to shut up.
They want you to be afraid.
And to make fun of it being the opposite of being afraid,
I was proud to do something, I was proud of the world,
and it was great.
And an hour and a half after this event, we had all won against that.
OK, well, wait, I have a question.
That's it.
Oh yeah.
What did you say to the people in Tabarnak?
I made a joke that I didn't even need to...
It's a joke that's written.
I laughed at the woman who, in another demonstration against Palestine,
made Hitler to Jews. So she saw the Jews, she lost her color, and she said,
Hitler, we're going to kill you all.
Oh, okay.
So, I don't know, I'm not freedom of expression. So... But you know, I think that...
It's a tear.
She pulled the elastic.
And it took an hour.
The internet identified her.
The internet took her picture, found her job.
And the girl manages, she is a second cop.
Oh, yeah. She's a girl. She manages the second cup franchise.
Oh, yeah?
So she manages a second cup at the Jewish Hospital of Montreal.
Oh, really?
To what extent does she not like her clients?
She's been scared of get some booze.
She's had enough of her freedom of expression.
When you tell your clients, do you want a little special in your cafe?
How?
I just make them name that thing that is absurd in itself be named.
So it's like...
Because, you know, protesters have to be both
showing off and being shy, but at the same time being victims.
So if you point someone out who is not a victim,
it's a game. It's a game.
So there was people who were there to tell me that in the end, never talk about this subject, Martin.
And unfortunately, that's an invitation.
So I decided to do another show next year.
I'll surely talk about the subject.
Well, yes, I'll talk about the subject again.
It continues anyway.
Oh yeah, and it's written by itself. I'll talk about the subject later. It continues anyway.
It's written by itself.
Did the lady lose her...
I'm fascinated by that lady.
She lost...
The beauty of the matter is that at the end of that day,
Second Cup had already said,
and bravo Second Cup,
we don't accept that from our franchises.
Second Cup franchise was removed, so it was...
So sometimes, there are consequences.
You know, there are not when you block the streets,
but in Montreal right now, you block the streets,
there are no consequences.
But if...
But if the city blocks the streets...
That's it.
But if...
We don't know what's going to happen,
but if they ever make the mistake of blocking a bike lane, I don't know how it's going to...
I don't know what's going to happen.
And you tomorrow, check a good pack of bikes in front of your house. When it happened, I really did it. Asti Martin will sell 100,000 tickets more.
I would say that the reaction was super positive.
It always has a Barbra Streisand effect.
What's that?
What do you mean, the Barbra Streisand effect?
What's that? Is do you mean, the Barbara Sturgeon effect? What's that?
It's because of your nose!
What?
Barbara Sturgeon who is Jewish, be careful!
Listen, you're forcing me to explain something that I don't understand.
Do you know what the Barbara Sturgeon effect is?
The Barbara Sturgeon effect. What's your thing about Barbra Streisand? Barbra Streisand. Barbra Streisand said, she didn't talk about it, so everyone did.
What do you mean I don't want to talk about it?
And everyone was interested in what she was saying.
She actually tried to get a picture taken.
It was a picture she didn't like.
And the more she talked about it, the more she tried to get it taken away,
the more the internet shared it.
So she called it the Festuari.
You see? I told you.
It's Lose Lose.
It's like it's a complex thing.
I was expecting something more spectacular.
Like the Chinese syndrome.
No, no, no. We didn't learn anything.
But indeed, people are not for this kind of behavior.
Quebeckers, we're people. But there's something fascinating about getting involved emotionally in a file that's on the other side of the world.
It's fascinating to see that there are people involved in this cause.
Often, these are people who are not even willing to meet in family at Christmas and tolerate each other during a dinner.
You're talking about me?
No, I'm not talking about your family.
It's always easier to ask everyone to love each other when you're not even able to have a party with your family.
That's often the case. That's often the case.
That's often the paradox.
It always struck me when you do...
Let's say you want Russia to stop doing something,
and you do a demonstration in Sherbrooke,
and you're like...
I don't think it's the Sherbrooke mayor who's the problem.
Or the mayor. It's maybe the mayor, but it doesn't matter.
I think it's more about the people.
When Zelensky came last time, he said...
He said...
Thank you, Sherbrooke gang.
He said...
Thank you. It changes everything.
He said, we received the petition from the gang.
At Actonville.onville saved lives.
I saw a picture of a little guy who wanted to make a thumbs up to thank, but he had no arms anymore.
So he was bleeding and he was like...
It's for sure that a show in Sherbrooke makes the Kremlin is shaking in Sherbrooke. Yes, yes, yes!
Poutine got up in the morning and got on it.
He's nervous.
He's nervous, too.
It's correct to be informed about what's going on in the world,
but even the chroniclers, sometimes the chroniclers,
they do like, in any case, what's going on in the United States,
but nobody reads you.
So why did you lose that energy?
You know, because it's easier to talk about something that nobody knows what happened
than to watch what's happening in your city.
But also often, for example, for what happens in the states,
you look at the logo, not you, the other one.
Oh yeah, that other one. But, you know... Oh yeah, poor Claude. Poor Claude.
You didn't have any of that before.
It happened in your life and you didn't have a choice.
And now you're caught with...
I don't like him.
Poor Claude.
But, you know, when he was talking about Trump, you know, he was like...
He treats him like an idiot and then he meets him and...
He's all angry. He looks like a 15 year old girl in front of Taylor Swift.
Here's his bracelet.
Hey!
He's all angry.
Damn!
And then he meets them again, and he says,
Hey, I'm the one who boycotted the orange juice.
Oh yeah!
He here, Donald, he should be completely... Oh, Donald, that's right. Hey, watch out, I'm gulping this one.
We got science.
You know, like Olivier Primo,
he often gulps the
sauce before.
Yes, yes.
He gulps the sauce before.
He gulps the sauce before.
He gulps the sauce before.
He gulps the sauce before.
He gulps the sauce before., he often tastes the sauce before.
Yes, Olivier Primo puts you in context and he notes the lemon.
It's not the same lemon.
Can you note Olivier Primo?
That's what I don't know him.
It would be good to analyze his analyses.
We feel like we're not far from the Barrier Reefs.
You're back. Do you have fun doing your podcast?
Yes, I have fun doing my podcast. I started it, but I'm not.
I'm really not good. And what the world writes to me, it's quite just, the world writes to me,
FANTAIL! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I had to be a family member where no one listened to me and talked about it.
I was recreating that in a podcast. I'm confirming it.
I'm confirming it.
So it shows your flaws.
I had to deal with my flaws.
I go to every episode. I work hard, I'm like, shut up!
But then it gets long, I think.
The person had to finish by saying what she had to say,
but it's between my lines of questions that took 12 minutes.
You can't have someone in the back and you have a little ear and then you come to talk.
Shut up, shut up, shut up!
It's just André Duchamp.
Shut up!
Don't talk to him.
It's certainly familiar.
It exposes something.
But every new thing we do...
When I stopped doing improv, I started doing stand-up.
Some said, it must be easy, you were doing improv.
No, I think that 96% of what I was doing in improv,
it doesn't apply to the new job of being a stand-up.
And doing interviews, it's another...
It's every time... Writing aup, and do interviews. It's another thing.
It's a different thing.
Writing a film, what do you think?
Because you've done stories, and gangs,
and you even write a film.
You have to relearn the whole job.
So it's interesting to be poached in something.
And I told my son yesterday,
what's fun, I was telling him,
to be 17 years old, is're a little bit of a loser.
But you can only improve yourself in everything.
Or not.
Yes, but that's it.
That's the beauty of being a loser.
But it's the beauty of youth.
You don't know what it is.
Maybe there's one thing that makes you extraordinary, and you just have to find it.
Or you don't even have to be extraordinary.
One thing that you're possibly good at.
Enough to just not humiliate the family, pay your rent and your rent eventually.
Exactly. That's it. You do jud judo, you start with a white belt, and you don't feel bad about it.
Seven years later, you're still wearing a white belt. Yes, it's a shame.
But normally, you should have gone to Brunei. And bravo, you're not getting old.
Or you're just not made for judo, for school kids. But after seven years, I would have understood.
After two years of eating mornifs one after the other, you say,
you've tried another sport.
I was jealous of the world when I was young,
who was able to continue in something when they saw that it was not good.
If I tried something and I saw that it was not good,
I would do it once or twice and I would say,
I'm really not good, I'm going to find something that I'm going to be better at.
But I had friends at STI, they played baseball, they weren't able to start,
and it had been three years that they played.
That's a mystery, that's beautiful.
Yes, it luck. It's a mystery of life. When you stop,
between persisting and giving up in a lucid way,
you're embarrassing that it's not given to everyone.
There's a difference between perseverance and charm.
That's it.
Yes.
That's it.
It's hard to find.
It's hard to catch.
It's all about...
The default, like with humor,
at the time when we started, if you weren't good, there was almost no evening.
So if you were bad at shit, they wouldn't book you and you wouldn't work.
But now there are so many open mics, you can be bad at shit and work, but you don't work in the right place.
So you're far away, So you're good on stage.
Because you did 9,000 shows,
but you're bad at shit
because you don't have talent.
It's...
I was in a Uber in Los Angeles
and the guy brought me back to the airport.
And the Uber asked me
what I wanted to do.
I said I wanted to do humor, I'm a comedian.
But in Quebec, you know... He said, I wanted to do humor, I'm a comedian. He said, that's what I want to do, I want to be a comedian.
It's a humorous uber, in Los Angeles everyone is doing something.
So he explained his path, his father paid me a 30,000-40,000 dollars a year.
And after three years, he said, that's not what I want to do, I want to be a comedian.
He explained his daily life, he does open mics in Los Angeles,
but not even in the evening.
I said, where is it? He said, it's in the afternoon.
We often meet, it's like a big corridor, a bit of a corridor,
and there are three chairs, and three other open-micers,
so there's no audience.
Then they get up, they count the jokes, they watch each other and go home.
It's the OO?
Yes.
Really?
It's the...
With the guys.
The chances...
No, but at this rate, it's going to be good, but in 12,000 years, because...
His children or the children of his children, maybe.
Poor him, you know. So I don't know what this dynamic is, but I don't think I would have...
I don't think I would have been tough on two afternoons.
But you know, I wasn't good on a stage, but I found gags, so I just wanted to go on stage.
But if there were as many nights of humor as today, I think I would have been better
faster. Since I was... I was not good on stage at the beginning. I didn't look at the audience.
You were embarrassed.
The fact that you were on your back didn't help.
We told you.
We told you.
Behind a blanket with a guy with a head...
You're on your back.
Yes.
When you...
When you started, Mike, I heard you talking before I even saw you.
You already had gags that everyone was repeating.
I'm a good writer.
Yes, you were good. You're happy.
No one was saying,
there's a good joke, but he missed it so much.
You said it.
We understood it. That's the point.
I told my blonde,
who's here tonight,
I said,
Mike Ward is one of the guys
where I almost died watching his show.
So well control.
Thank you.
For real.
You almost died often.
I almost died often, but this time it was fun.
You say, well, come on, he didn't say that.
Then you think, is it over? No, there's a counter-clack.
Above another.
Then you say, okay, he's gone.
He's going to empty the vein of what he's saying.
It's one after the other.
He doesn't take any prisoners.
He doesn't take any prisoners.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
When I saw you do stand-up for the first time,
did you still do the existing Bizareids.
I think the first time I saw you on stand-up, you were really solid.
I feel like you had already found your way straight on the go.
No, because you arrived a few years after I started.
So I knew them.
That's it. No, no, no, it's because being a stand-up, in my opinion,
I've seen a lot of testimonies,
it takes between 8 and 10 years to become a stand-up
who knows what he's doing on stage.
Not coming home and saying,
I was funny, what a coincidence,
to say to myself, I know what I'm doing.
It takes 8 or 10 years.
You flash in the first years.
I was in a group of humor.
I didn't have 100% of my energy to put on being a stand-up.
Like those who were my age at the time,
Mario Jean, Maxime Martin, Patrick Huard,
who were all in full time, and I saw them progress.
I think I was progressing at a slower rate,
because I was doing sketches.
Yeah, but you caught up with the scales
that the others didn't catch up with.
No, but I was doing sketches anyway,
half naked, with poolboards,
and it takes time, and it prevents you from writing...
You know, you know...
Yeah, but you did a lot of scenes with that.
Yes, I did the scene, I traveled traveled and that's what I wanted to do.
And I also had the impression that, and what always impressed me,
when you're in a stand-up, you give your opinion on the scene.
And it looked like it was taboo, in any case, at home, to dose.
I found that, there was something that I found so gossy to give his opinion,
and there was something permanent. He gave it, it's over, he can't come back. I found it so fun to give his opinion,
and there was something permanent.
He gave it to me, and then he came back.
It stressed me out to see people get involved.
I realized that it's not okay to say the opposite the next day.
But it seemed that the gravity of the situation impressed me.
Guys like Maxime would come in and he'd talk.
I was like by guys like Maxime, who would come in and talk. I was like, wow!
Maxime, a chance that didn't come in the time of social media?
At the start?
Well, he would have broken...
His computer would have broken.
I don't know now, but it broke something.
Maxime, when he arrived, a young man couldn't talk like that.
Where did he come from?
I think he came from the center of Canada, so there was an excuse.
He came from Manitoba.
Manitoba is...
It's all Canada, I think.
It's good, isn't it?
Yeah.
I saw people starting to get mad. It's good, isn't it? Yeah, and I saw people starting to get mad.
It's interesting.
It's always like that.
As soon as we talk about Manitoba here...
People are mad.
People are getting together.
People are like,
Oh, a little thought for people.
Oh, I don't want to...
I tried to name the capital, but I couldn't.
Manitoba must be innipeg, the capital.
Besides, it's the only city.
So it must be her, the capital.
There's Saint Boniface, the Maneutoba's laval.
It's the same one that's written.
Have you played in Winnipeg?
No, I've never been there.
I've played once in English, once in French, and in French, you know, there are a lot of French people in Manitobin
that you speak to them, it's their language, so you're like Chris, they'll understand everything,
but they have no reference to Quebec. Even Yvon Deschamps, there was...
Christ, wait a minute, Yvon, if you don't know Yvon,
fuck you.
If you don't know Yvon...
But that's what they do there.
That's it.
It explains the turn of...
Apparently, that's the first call of suicide action.
The demography drops the bomb. Apparently, that's the first call of Suicide Action. The demographic drops.
When you call a suicide victim in Winnipeg, it's Yvon playing music.
And now it saves lives.
Don't put it in there.
This summer, you're back at the stand-up, you're back in Quebec.
Where did you go in the process?
Because at the Gallant, you have four numbers to do, at STIC, that's a lot.
In fact, you have a large number of openings, your closing number, your first part, because they do two things.
One opening number, second part, closing number,
and between that you have the links with the numbers, but at the same time it always depends on who is on the line-up,
if they need me in the number, I will also embark.
And I will also do a number, the fifth number, which is called, on another show, I do it with Mablon Gael.
Ok, yeah. Oh wow!
She will have fun massacring me, I will do the mass kill her in music because my blonde is an off-beat musician.
So we're going to do that in music.
Have you ever been on stage with her?
Yes. She came to Murrow State last year.
Ah, okay!
Yes. We haven't talked since then.
But when you were doing Asmatic Elvis, you were singing.
Do you remember that?
No.
He was doing Elvis but in Asmatic.
OK.
It's not Elvis.
Oh yeah.
Félix! Félix! Félix!
I think I wouldn't be able to do it.
That's it, we were saying...
That's probably the most stupid number I've ever written in my life.
It's really funny.
But it was funny.
It was very funny.
The first night I did it, just to laugh.
Everyone laughed, but at laughing, but everyone was like,
Ok, what is this?
It's so good.
Elvis, we said Elvis died because he did the last one,
so I started again,
do for the show,
and it went on and on.
At the end, it was like,
Love me tender,
love me sweet.
But it was so close,
he ended up dying on stage.
And he's getting up,
I'm crashing on a chair,
come get me.
It's wonderful.
It's another creation
you did in two hours.
And there you go.
What do you want Elvis?
When you said you were scared when you watched stand-up films
that made their opinion, when you saw him do that, you were like
I can't believe he dared to say that.
Or you were okay with that.
With Claude?
No, no, it was my gag that was missed.
Oh, you speak in general?
I was doing a gag...
I thought you were doing a link.
No, no, I was doing a gag and in 10 years I should have just taken a fork.
That's why I didn't catch him.
There wouldn't be a gag, Martin, reassure me.
There's no joke.
Ugh, confusion, but...
No, no, but I never... I've never been out of touch.
There's one thing I've never been out of touch with.
With something I saw on stage.
I love what happens on a comedy stage.
The fact that the mess has been happening for 10 years,
every night that we have't have a light here.
And I love that.
You know, when you put it back in the 20s,
it didn't get any worse.
Yes, yes, yes.
I knew it was a real mess here before.
That's it.
But that energy to see,
and to see my colleagues test jokes.
You test the most hardcore version of your tests.
Sometimes we're in the room and they're like...
It was too much. But we have to do it.
But we're live while it's too much.
It's a beautiful feeling.
Are you tired of not calling the police every time?
Not denouncing us?
People are so capable of taking advantage of it.
That's what's wonderful.
I like it.
Often, a couple of years ago, we talked about the term safe space.
When he wanted to censor or soften the humor.
What I didn't like about the term safe space, censor or soften the humor. And I find that here...
What I didn't like about the term safe space,
they always said,
here it's a safe space,
there won't be jokes about this, about that, about that.
So it was safe for no comedian.
Since you arrive, you're in a mess, you can't say anything.
Wait, is it a safe space for who?
It's a safe space for the short-haired ladies
who are going with Palestinian flags.
What I like about this mess is that it's a real safe space for humorists.
That's what I like about stand-up comedy.
There's people who will say what, and vont dire de quoi, que sur le coup t'es comme, voyons, on va stick.
Après, ils le revirent de bord.
Moi, c'est un genre du mot que j'ai tout le temps aimé.
J'aime ça que la prémisse me brasse un peu, puis qu'après le punch, je viens me chercher.
C'est ça.
J'ai jamais compris le monde qui se choquait pour ce genre du mot.
Ben, probablement, c'est des people who are stuck in the set-up.
They find it unacceptable.
They hear a word...
And they don't hear the punch anymore, which brings it all back in a smart way.
And now they're traumatized by the set-up.
But you know, well...
But even serious... even thick numbers...
Elvis, we agree that in the category of thick numbers, it was 12 out of 10. No, he wasn't thick, he was easy bit thick. Elvis, we can hear that in the category of thick, he was 12 out of 10.
No, he wasn't thick, he was easy to understand.
Yes, but solid.
I think nobody does that kind of...
A number of tatas.
It was tatas, but what was the purpose of that number? What a wordplay.
To make people feel at home.
No, not really.
At one point, there was a wave of that.
Same thing as on TV.
I did a lot of youth shows.
And in the 90s, I was writing for the 100 Watt
Club, I stopped because I was so happy to be told
that it wasn't possible, it wasn't ecological,
it wasn't possible.
I was eating shit, writing the text, and I stopped doing it.
And one year, even the first year in a galaxy near you,
I was like, what the hell, we're getting censored, it doesn't make sense.
And one year, I said to myself, they go to school 8 hours a day,
and they have homework. Can you give them patience when they get home?
Can you see things a little bit left-handed,
and stupid, and nasty, but funny,
that are made to laugh, that are made to laugh?
But I think in the sketches, it was a little bit like that.
It was like, yeah, but he knows what your content is.
There's no content. It's just a big, a dad joke.
And you laugh at it. I'm not laughing at anything.
It's my dad's face.
Oh yeah.
That was the goal. That was just the goal.
There's always an energy of school teacher, but over the years, it's lost.
And in humor, it's realized.
And it's always grimoire. It's like, ah, no, but you know, like, ah, it was good, but it's fun.
And what's fun is that we learned something in the show.
I don't expect to learn anything, but whatever it is.
It's like when I'm going to get massaged.
I don't feel like the masseur is whispering to me advice on how to make a garden while she massages me.
Or she explains how your sciatic nerve works.
Fanteyeux! Try to listen to music. Music with running water, often.
I just came to relax. I came to relax.
I came to relax.
That's good.
There's a lot of Maurice who feel like,
hey, people are going to learn something from me.
And you're like, hey, you weren't good at school.
If you weren't good at school, you'd be a scientist.
You'd be charismatic, and you would be a fan of your own shit and you would have fun with me.
Yann, do you have any questions?
Yes, we have questions.
I have the impression that you must have a lot of questions.
I have a few, cousin. My question is for Martin and Claude. Have you ever thought about writing a series or a film together?
We haven't done that.
I wrote The Fishermen and Claude has been in each of the seasons of The Fishermen.
He came to get me. That's great.
Claude never asked for conditions on any of the scenarios I submitted.
When you write, it's precious to call someone and they'll do it.
He just says yes three weeks before receiving the text.
It's certain that if I write another film, Claude can't help in that film.
I have this fantasy. You, I know you write at night and it doesn't last long, so I don't know if you want to collaborate.
But usually I sleep at 3 o'clock.
No, I write during the day now, my blonde can confirm.
Is that a guy who wrote only at night before?
A long time ago, I wrote a lot at night.
What did you like about the fact that the phone didn't ring?
No noise, everyone was asleep.
He improvised a lot. We wrote a sketch together in which you strangely didn't play.
Do you remember what I think?
In zone 2, it's Didier Lucien who played the role.
We wrote a sketch together and two days later you told me,
I don't have time for this anymore.
So it's Didier who...
You were supposed to be in Zone Interdite 2?
Yes.
Oh, wow!
Oh, yes, I was shooting three things in there.
I don't know, what you're doing...
Well, apart from the dope.
That's going to be a reference that 8 people will...
But you know, in zone 2, there was a sketch that Didier made a guy from the Ku Klux Klan,
that there were racist sentences, and then Didier took off his mask and was in Tabarnak and left.
The word hate had been said, yeah.
Imagine the same sketch, but instead of Didier, it's him.
It works less.
It works less.
It's funny, we were, we were, look, there will be 10 people who will know.
We were well included in the clock scan.
And Didier took out the hands of the suit.
So right away, it laughed for a minute.
And then I was next to him, and I couldn't see his hands.
So I sang the whole word in N, saying,
and then the hostages...
So then they got up, they took off their...
And then I went, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
You know, it was...
It lasted a minute and a half, but that's it.
Well invested.
It shocked me, I remember.
But the two forbidden zones, there was a magic around these shows, that you felt it. I remember Zone Interdite 1, or the two Pierrot,
it was... we had the impression that it was like a rock show,
and it was a nice mix between...
it's trash humor that you never saw in French,
and then go up like a traditional show of the time.
So Sketch, Stand Up, it was really fun.
What was fun was that we did what was risky in the forbidden zone. It was like a 3x show,
but we decided that we would talk about many heavy subjects. It's a passion
since forever. But we had said to ourselves, we're going to end the show, how?
It ended with Sylvain Ouellet. Sylvain Ouellet is a humorist who died in an absolutely atrocious way.
He was a guy who suffered from a lot of different mental health problems that we know today.
Bipolar and all that. But at the time we didn't know what was there, but there was everything. So on stage, it was a guy who did a number and everyone who saw it, Sylvain Ouellet did it.
It's a number that is remembered.
So we created the show, Maxime Martin, Mario Bélanger and me,
so that it was Christendom, it was Sylvain.
Because Sylvain was someone who needed help in all aspects of his life.
But it's a number that we thought, this is a gem.
The show has to end with him.
So we did the staging and the show.
And it was the first night.
We didn't have any
We worked on the show for a month and a half, but there was no show.
All the journalists were in the room.
So it's a bit of a risk.
So we're the scriptwriters, and I say, Sylvain, you're going to go into The End of Doors.
And then he goes in, he's a preacher, and he goes...
And then you hear...
And then you pull the hair. And then you know, I have the hair.
And then he's like, hey, do you have a fridge?
And then he's like, and then the room starts, because he had that talent.
Then everyone is like, who is this guy?
Everyone is following him, and I haven't seen a lot of people recreating what they were able to create.
He's really there, he was invested, and...
There, he's there, and the door's door.
Then he does his sketch, and we're behind the curtain,
and we feel like it's working, we're shivering,
and we say, it's working, and then we look at each other,
there's 30 seconds left until the show ends,
and we say to ourselves, how do we end the show?
And then Maxime Martin says,
oh yeah, we were saying, we do like the Red Hot Chippers,
we put a grain bus road to get in.
But then we realize that,
was it during the day that we didn't go through that?
So we don't have what we would call the accessory, the good stuff.
And then we look at the three of them,
and we say, Christ, it's a magical moment, you bastard,
it's a magical moment, it's a magical moment, we're not going to get say, Christ, this is a magical moment, dammit, this is a magical moment, this is a magical moment,
we're not going to get there, this is a magical moment.
So there are 15 seconds left.
We take Noba,
who did a general rehearsal.
We're the summer,
the show,
and for the audience,
we put it on!
And then the curtains open, and we go in the three of us.
With the bas-sal, with the... you know, the...
The black heel marks. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, of the press' art book. There were so many complaints that the press changed its internal policy
on what was going to be presented.
Because there were too many complaints.
What is the rule? And what is that?
I'm not a bad person, I'm a dirty person.
He's a dirty person. So we've seen less of that.
So after that, you all had your little bath.
After that, it became an accessory.
So it was clean.
It's a good idea.
I'm happy to bring his memory back because he was the one who...
Before the Denny Drelet, there was Sylvain Ouellette.
Yes, yes, yes.
If we do it in the order of the absurds of Quebec, the missing dog is Sylvain Ouellette.
Yes.
I had...
The year after Zone Interdite 1, I had a show with Sylvain.
Since Sylvain wasn't in Zone Interdite 2 anymore, I was like,
Chris, let's take him. I had a show with him and it was necessary.
And then, while I was on the show, I understood why he wasn't in Zone Interdite 2.
It was really fun to work with.
He's a genius, but he's crazy.
Just some absurd sentences.
We had been to Quebec.
We arrived in Quebec.
We looked at the Château Frontenac.
He was like, ah, is that you?
And we laughed. We laugh.
Chris, you're...
In zone 1, I wrote a joke.
We needed 30 seconds to change costumes.
And I said, I have a joke. Do this joke.
It's time to say it. We're going to have to change costumes.
The joke was,'ll have time to change our costumes. The joke was at the time,
it's fun, the festival is just for laughing,
it's fun to laugh, especially when you pretend to like jazz for two weeks.
I remember that gag.
You gave me that gag.
That was the joke.
It's a joke with two thirty seconds, and we move on to something else.
First night, first night, he says,
Hey, it's fun just to laugh, it feels good when you don't like jazz.
And then...
I say, OK, we're not far away, but...
Are we going to work on it tomorrow, Sylvain?
The next day, hey, the jazz and the festival,
it's a lot to do in Montreal.
You don't know that anymore, Chris.
And then I repeat it.
Oh, okay, the next day, the jazz, it's fun, we laugh just to laugh.
But every time it was more funny.
It was always more funny.
You're like, oh, listen, he takes the words backwards, in the right place.
There was a freedom.
I had a car accident in certain times.
It worked.
One day, I was going to...
I think it was at the River Douloux with me.
He was in the bus.
He had forgotten to get off the bus.
Since the bus...
You know...
Stopped...
You know, but we...
We stopped in Montmagny after Rivière-du-Loup, after Rimouski.
We can't forget that corner.
And then we get off.
And I do...
You know, he sees us all get up and we go out.
And where is he? He's going to Rimouski.
And... But without going, he was writing.
He was looking at the book and writing.
And then he was looking at us and I was like, what are you doing?
And he was like, don't do that.
Automatic writing.
And I was like, no.
I wrote words, then I look at the words.
And my challenge is to find a joke with each word.
And in the end, it becomes too hard. So I put all the words that remain in one sentence
and it becomes absurd. It's the same as the joke, there was a joke
of smoking a joint with Louise Deschâtelet. And he said, I had to smoke Louis Richer and another thing. No, Jesus, Louis Richer.
He smoked and he was like... I was like, that's too weird, not everyone knows Louis Richer.
Louis Deschâtelet, it's going to be more popular. And I was like, damn it!
His gag was like, Jesus arrived and he said, he was like Louis de Châtelet,
smoke, smoke, smoke!
That's his joke.
It worked.
It's a strong laugh. Even the people who didn't like it, the absurdity.
I missed something.
No, no, no. He was a genius.
But...
Nobody did anything with the techniques he had developed.
It was amazing.
Sylvain.
Sylvain Ouellet.
Before the next question,
we talked a little bit about fishermen.
But the fishermen that were sold in the United States,
it was Bert Kreischer who created the version.
But in the exact setting.
Yes, but they changed it to reality.
That was how the process was, because I remember at the beginning it was supposed to be Jason Alexander and HBO.
How did it go from HBO to Netflix?
I don't think it was HBO. We didn't know. Jason Alexander did Seinfeld, George did it.
He didn't want to re-enter with a network that makes 22 episodes a year.
He didn't want to do Seinfeld again. He wanted to make 22 episodes a year. He didn't want to do Seinfeld again.
He wanted to make...
Like a British series.
A series and make it trendy.
Make 8 episodes.
And he tricked his fishermen, which is absurd.
Because I was influenced by Seinfeld.
It's like a weird boomerang effect. So I found myself, I don't know if some of you have seen Seinfeld, so it's like a boomerang effect, a little weird.
So I found myself, I don't know if some of you have seen Seinfeld, the episode where Jerry was with George and he pitched.
So I got up, I was at Fox, and I have George, Jason Exon is next to me, and we pitch the fishermen at Fox, one next to the other.
That's absurd.
So in my head I'm filming and it's absurd, it's ridiculous.
And over there, the way it works when you pitch a show, very different from here,
here you're going to pitch it to Radio Canada and they're going to give you a test.
I like your show and it's going to take six months before they give you an answer.
Over there, you meet all the TV stations in a week
and they all know you went to pity your neighbors.
So they all know they have a weekend to think about it.
So you meet everyone.
So I went out of a show one day, I went out of Fog, Matt Damon is there, he's going to pity a show,
and then it jams between us, like when you leave Radio Canada, and I say,
I'm going to help a camera between the two of them. I'm filming myself in my head.
I'm not there. I'm like, you know...
It's like I'm here, but not the same faces.
But I'm thinking about it, saying that it's like I'm here.
The report that everyone has among themselves.
But anyway, all that to say that it didn't work with Jason.
And one of the weird reasons is that I learned a lot
from this meeting. I was in a meeting and the person, I'm making a joke, the person
she says, she says, the thing is fishermen, you are there, I saw the pilot, it's interesting,
but she says, you are three in a cottage, go to town. I said, rarely.
Because what made the fishermen in Quebec sell is,
we're going to be three actors in a chalet.
So they listen to you, after two minutes they're like,
OK, not so expensive.
And from not so expensive to not so expensive, it cost a fortune.
But that's what sold the series, it won't be expensive to have three it costed a fortune, but that's what sold the show.
It wouldn't be expensive to have three humorists in a chalet.
It was a selling angle in Quebec.
So I have this selling angle.
I said, that's one of the strengths of the show, because there are only three humorists.
So he said, the city, is there a mayor? Is there a guy from the Panthers? And I said, no, no, no, no.
That's the power of the show.
Three humorists in the chalet.
And I see his face doing...
Oh yeah.
Since she was going to get Matt Damon like the mayor.
That's it. And now I really feel like I've been treated in the void.
And then I have Jason Alexander looking at me,
looking for solutions to try to get back the bullet I stuck in the ground.
And you can feel that I lost the interest of AMC, I think, at the time,
which produces the zombie thing.
And then I'm out of focus, I'm talking and I'm out of focus.
And behind him, there's the poster of Walking Dead.
With 25,000 zombies.
And his station's success is not to put two zombies.
I have a show for you.
It's the living dead.
There are three.
No, but you're going to see victims coming in. There are three of them.
They're not going to be victims. There are never victims. Never victims. They eat each other.
They try to eat each other but they don't have teeth.
I was selling the Quebec version, so they had to be big.
If I had said, oh, there are 200 secondary characters,
they would have said, alright, talk about that. It's big. There's the oh, there are 200 secondary characters, he would have said, all right,
talk to me about that, it's big, it's big, it's big.
There's the sheriff, there's the cantor.
What do you think, you know, next time, what would it be?
Would it be read the room a little more?
Yes, well, that's now that I know that.
I know that for them, the big difference with us, is that money is never,
in the first ten hours of discussion,
we never talk about money. Not because it's taboo, because it won't be a problem.
I didn't tell Madney from a corner, there was the head writer, Jason Alexander,
and then he says, hey, Madney, I heard, how much do you think it will cost per episode? And then, tomorrow, I don't know, first class, they're going to send them to the woods,
a million, two million, and then I see them brainstorming the millions,
I think three or four million, per episode.
And then, Tabarnak, in Quebec, all the conversations are like that.
The first conversation is how much it costs, and you're better off not going over it.
It's another reality in Quebec, but all countries in the world are another reality than the United States.
Learning that, I found it really fascinating.
Now, when they made the adaptation with Birdcatcher, completely different,
I wanted them to take the ideas we had developed in Quebec and improve them,
a bit like they did with Starbucks.
It's fun to see your idea transformed and improved.
It's not a word-of-mouth, but there are good ideas.
You improve that, put 12 writers and slap it on the other side.
At the last minute, he said, no, I'm an impro.
So he decided to go in three cameras, 12 hours of shooting in a
cottage that looks like ours, but three times bigger, and improvise.
Which could have been that. It could have been that, the fishermen.
We improvise for a day and we take the best.
And I thought it might not be great.
I looked at the results and it's not great, but it's two different shows.
It's like he said, I'm going to take the fishing rods and I'm going to turn it into a podcast.
I had the impression of listening to a podcast in a whirlpool on the shore of a lake.
That's right. Now he's done an anal wash and I've been for the shoot. It took about an hour and a half for someone to do an anal wash.
I know in his head he's going to take three minutes, but it's a nice shoot.
He said it was going to be blurry during the editing, but during the shoot, zero blur. No flutes. So... So you saw Birdcrusher
getting a anal wash
for an hour and a half?
I saw the outside
and the inside of Birdcrusher.
Oh, well, no.
Because...
Even if your anus is really dirty,
after four minutes,
it must be clean enough.
After an hour and a half of the age.
He looks bloated, but there's a 6-liter of Nestle Eti in this guy.
He must have a hole in his ass to kick after an hour of water.
It's not a show. I confirm that it's not quite a show.
We didn't have that in the fishermen. It was another show.
No, I appreciated not having that.
It was another show.
It's funny, for example, the fishermen, because every time I sent them their text,
I said to myself, where am I going to go the furthest in humiliation?
Because I was still at the bottom.
Yes, that's it.
I wasn't always at my best in there.
And that's what I liked. That's what I liked.
He said, no, you're very sensitive.
You made bad decisions.
It's nothing.
You got married.
It fucked the dog.
It never really went well.
I stole his father. Yes.
Which is an anecdote of Patrick Huard, in fact.
Really?
My father...
I can say he's dead, but...
Are you sure?
Yes.
My father is very strange.
He's one of his fathers
who is not able to say
bravo.
So, that's it. I'm fine. I'm just laughing.
But my father needs to talk to me every five years.
I don't know. So, every five years, I go by car with my father.
And he talks to me about his life and all that.
But he never says bravo, my son son, positive things. Never.
So I love you, but it must be a million...
No, no, Patrick Huard comes in and says, we're laughing at 4.40, and it's been six hours,
I listen to my father talk, I've never had anything positive.
And he says, who impresses me? I'm like, it's going to hurt.
He says, Patrick Huard.
I'm like, oh yeah, that's it.
You're a guy of my age, Carlis.
It's not that they're going, I'm not in competition Yvon, but...... Patrick, let's start at the same time.
What impresses you so much?
He said, no, I've already seen the interviews.
Interviews not long ago.
He said, I don't say it often, I love you.
Because when I say I love you, it counts.
And now it's a crisis of good times.
To tell me I love you.
Now it's bar open in Assi.
15 km further, still no sign of life. I'm like, damn, we're not going home on a date, are we?
He never told me.
So every time I see Patrick Huard, I'm like,
if he knew how proud my father is of him.
You know, he's probably more relaxed than you.
He probably didn't tell you that by the band.
Yes, he told me, but I didn't know.
I didn't know. You know, he's probably more relaxed than your...
He didn't tell you by the band.
Yes, he told me, but I was getting hot.
Yes, I know, but...
You should be proud when he came...
You know, your father came to the premiere of Starbucks,
but it was just to meet Patrick.
He was like, are you there?
Are you there Patrick?
If only it could have been my son.
So, there you go.
Listen, it's...
But, yeah, if your generation...
Yeah.
...is funny.
No, his generation. I think he had a nasty gag.
I don't think so. I think since the Renaissance until 1958.
Since Jesus. We come to Jesus.
I don't think Jesus says to his father with the nails in his hands on the two by fours,
I love you, dad. I love you, my son.
Jesus was like, are you proud of me?
Are you proud of me, dad?
He said, my nose is cold, because it hurts!
And God was like, hey, do you know who impressed me?
Mahomet.
Mahomet.
Poor Jesus.
What a joke. Oh, yes. Poor Jesus.
What a joke.
Don't draw them.
No.
That's...
I had one year,
I was hired to be a writer
for a series, an animated cartoon
by the Tremble brothers,
who are guys
who work for Warner Brothers,
who do all the Looney Tunes and stuff.
But they are Quebecers, they made me go there a thousand years ago.
And then they wanted to make a series, it was young Jesus in cartoon.
So it was Jesus and his friends, it was Mahomet, it was, let's say, Buddha.
But it was in the years that we didn't know, we thought that a drawing could shock.
But we had worked on that too, we went to brainstorm and we were like,
hey, it's going to be funny, Chris, he's going to do this, he's going to do that.
And when all the shit went left with Charlie Hebdo,
I was like, if this show had been released at the time,
there would have been deaths.
You know, there were deaths of Charlie Hebdo,
but now it stopped me.
It stopped a little bit because of you.
It stopped more or less.
But you know, on YouTube,
there's the sitcom, a few episodes of the sitcom about the Jewish couple who live next to Hitler.
Ok.
It's an American series.
In the 60's, people put money in it.
So you have a studio and there is the Jewish couple who say,
we're going to welcome the Hitler tonight.
I'm not a monument.
We're on the same floor.
To what extent did anyone read a history book to get to this set-up? And it turns around and you hear people laughing in the studio.
They did three or four episodes, so it was unheard in the United States.
That pitch.
And there were good gags.
So you say, wow.
Hitler, Joseph, a rabbi.
Maybe that series,
it was just the Jewish neighbors
who left because of the pitch.
He was like, yeah, but Hitler,
are you going to be alone?
He can have neighbors.
He can have neighbors. He can have neighbors.
You know, the sound is very white man.
He can have Jewish people if you want.
That's good.
It's hard to say.
It's like a production.
I want to see this series.
On YouTube. I saw it on YouTube.
I'm going to google it,
Coupes, Juifs and Hitler.
Sitcom, sitcom.
It's funny how Hitler came back twice tonight.
Hitler comes back all the time.
It's going to be funny.
My algorithm is going to say,
OK, this guy wants funny Hitler videos.
Oh boy. It's going to make funny Hitler videos.
It's going to pop somewhere. Videos of the black and white gas chamber with the music of Benny Hill.
With the version of You Got Mail, but it's shit.
Yann, do you have another question? Yes, there are a lot of people who want to know where it came from with the project of
In a Galaxy 3.
And the...
It's going very well. It's going very well. You didn't finish your question.
There are two parts, but you can answer the first part.
We are writing six to seven days a week on this.
Our goal is to set up, we are putting charge of the production in July.
We are in charge of the production for Téléfilm Canada and the Sodec,
by asking them to finance the film.
We are in charge of the production in July.
We are in dialogue.
How many of you are writing on this?
We are two. Pierre-Yves Bernard and I.
And it has always been you two?
Yes. In the series, we had other authors who took the 65 episodes, but the two films are Pierre-Yves and me, and the third film too.
Ok. So when you made the third film, let's say, for funding, did you say, hey, it's automatic?
Or, given that it's governmental, it can still...
Listen, it can be annoying.
It can be annoying. But wait, it's because, you know, the money pie has decreased, like on TV, it doesn't stop decreasing.
It went from 78 to 45.
It looks like you're mimicking a toilet that's flushing.
But in Australia!
It's a lot less.
We're not talking about who they're going to fund us for.
There are a lot of projects and a lot less money.
It would be a mistake to say that these galaxies will say yes. What we do is we want to put them in the shit by putting a scenario so good in their hands
that if they don't want to finance us, they will have to find a good reason for a crisis.
So that's the only thing we can control.
And we're really busting our asses on it.
But it's good because Pierre-Yves and I are very rednecks on writing.
We're not good.
Get out of here.
We don't let anything drag us.
And we have a script and a scriptwriter, Michel Touga, who is a big fan of writing.
So we're going to put it back.
And even the version we're going to put back, it's going to be good.
But while they're going to be debating for three months, we're going to make another one.
To improve it.
So when they come up with the score, we'll probably have to fix the problems.
The score, you have to do it. I imagine you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
And then you do exactly what you want to do. I imagine.
Ah, that was beautiful. That's what's coming.
In 90% of cases.
And don't answer because you haven't finished the financing yet.
No, no, no, but...
Pretend that you did.
No, no, once we went...
It's pertinent what he says.
Once we went to launch...
I just went to accompany Patrick Sénégal and Pod
to launch the 7 days of the Talion.
To finance.
We had a great show.
I think Rémi Girard came with us.
And the shit got me.
With Sénégal, the shit can get you quickly.
You look at his books and you say, he can write that Patrick Seneca.
There's no mesh, he just has wax.
So there, Monnet, they started to say what they liked, and Monnet started to say what they didn't like.
There, I saw his vein start to swell on the side of his head.
He swallowed dry, and I thought, it's going to be hard.
And he didn't say he was good to get drunk.
And then it went.
It was when it went.
Then we said, the film is over.
We will never have the funding.
Besides, we didn't have funding on that side of Canada.
Because there were too many drop-in-gants.
What did he tell them?
He was wearing too many droppés and gloves. What did he tell them?
Without saying why, the tabarnak, the hostiles, the christs, the chalices were not necessary.
And he had a hat on. I was laughing, it was coming out, my old man.
The more I listened to it, the more I looked at Rémi Girard and said, I was like, I'm not going to suffer from this movie, that's for sure.
Finally, we made the movie, but without them.
They financed it differently.
When we were financed, they put money back into the adventure and all that. And Pod made a movie the way he wanted.
They found it trash.
But at the same time, it's the 7 days of Italian written by Patrick Senegal.
It's not Snoopy if he drinks.
You say yes or no right away.
He can't cut himself in the pocket.
But yes, that's what he does in the movie.
We won't see him there.
We'll see him later.
You understand, we're quite funny.
Yes, but he must have drifted.
Yes, you're right.
It would be a nice little bag. A wallet.
Do people who work in the arts already know that they are employees who were at the office. I'll give you an answer, and it's not to lick my ass before I have my money.
There are a lot of very competent people in the reading industry.
Yann, will you put this as an excerpt? It will help him.
Just invest in it.
Often we say bad things because we haven't been financed.
We say, oh, it's all... No, there are people who know how to read films.
I think that these people are smart and know how to read films.
That's why you have to give them a good film.
You can't say, I'm Galaxy, give me my cash.
No, we're going to get there.
We're Galaxy, it's already expected.
It's crazy how it's expected.
We went to the book fair. I get there, the appetite for Galaxy never slacked, it became completely stupid.
How many years has the series been a little in the way?
Excuse me?
25 years?
It's been 20...
The broadcast stopped in 25 years, but there were rebroadcasts, rebroadcasts, rebroadcasts, you're right.
But it's like Star Trek, Star Trek didn't work in the last three years.
Far from my idea of comparing Star Trek to our show.
Your ship is going much faster than yours.
Yes, it's true.
It doesn't have the capacity to...
No, but it doesn't pollute. We're just driving a Belgian car. Yes, that's true. He doesn't have the capacity to... No, but he doesn't pollute. We're just playing the Belgian game.
Yes, that's true.
But Star Trek didn't work.
He was threatened to be flogged
for almost every episode.
For three years.
The whole first year,
we had this threat too.
We received not very encouraging memes, we don't like that, we understand.
Some understood when the family...
We don't have a cable.
Among others, there was a gang that didn't have a cable.
But after that, there were a lot of reprises that went on during the summer.
It locked our fan base.
So in the fall, they realized that there were a lot of people watching the recordings.
So when we went to negotiate with them the second year,
and we had to do the double episode in the second year,
they were still a little on their side.
There was a guy in Canal Famille who was cheating. He said, yeah, but no, that, that, that.
And one year, Pierre-Yves Bernard said,
he looked at me and said, we're going to take it down.
And we got up and left.
And then, Diane England,
running after us in the building,
on stage 4,
guys, guys, we can't go.
We left, we forgot that.
Two days later, she reminded us,
they're going to make concessions.
Not concessions, they're just going to
increase our patience.
Young people like that.
We're not doing it for my uncle,
Jean-Guy Sybois, not for him.
One of the jokes, not jokes,
but the funniest jokes I've seen,
Pierre, in a meeting, he could be
pretty mean.
The boss, he says, ma fille elle écoute ça,
pis elle aime pas ça. Lui il dit, c'est parce qu'elle comprend pas les jokes.
Elle bosse. Ça commençait de même le meeting.
Finalement, il nous envoyait quand même d'autres affaires dans la deuxième année, genre
changer ça pour ça, pour ça, ouais, mais on the second year, like changing this for this, for that, for that.
We would do that, and we didn't do it. We did what we wanted, and in the end, it was the fans who carried the series.
Well done.
Yann, how many questions are left?
There are two.
Ok, perfect. There are two left. There is one for Martin.
You like to play, you're good at it, and you're surrounded by it.
You know a lot of directors. Would you like to play more, make more movies, and maybe play more dramatic roles?
My God, that's a question I never asked myself.
Is it true?
No, I never asked myself that question.
I play a girl in a movie and I think I play the role of an idiot very well.
I think it's something I've been good at.
It's what will remain after my death.
He was really a fool to lose himself.
But otherwise, I think that...
You know, as I get older, I look a lot like Saruman in...
Ha ha ha!
Yes, yes!
But it's already been done, so unless the Lord of the Rings comes back, maybe, it would be dramatic.
I don't know. I'm an author first.
You can't have 14 lives in one life.
I'm an author and I love my life as an author.
My pleasure is to write in the day.
I don't have a fantasy to go on sets.
I would say it's not a bad thing, but it's not a fantasy for me to go and play other projects.
I'm so preoccupied with my own projects, and that's my pleasure.
At 5am I'm doing my paper and I become a dad. I love this life.
It's engaging to go and play a doctor in a stat room and be a non-colog, and... Oh yeah.
He's an oncologist and tells everyone who dies from cancer every week...
You know, it could be one of the girls, but...
You know, there's other things than STAT.
No, no, but...
Is there other things than STAT?
Presently, no, but...
That's it, but it's a good question, but nothing impossible.
Mike, the sitcom you want to look for is P. White's Drolets,
which says, the sitcom Martin was talking about is called Hail Honey, I'm Home.
An episode was broadcast in 1990.
In 1990?
It's not that old!
It's not 80s.
Hail honey, I'm home!
Hail honey, I'm home!
That's it!
The goth!
It's great goth!
It's like saying, we're making a comedy about
the native peasants.
Stop!
Stop! Oh yeah. Stop it! Stop it! Hey boy! Think of your family!
A question for Claude, would you do a heavy series like 19-2 today?
No.
Lighter.
No, no, not because it's too...
It's because for 10-15 years the TV format has changed.
There are companies that decided that TV was made at 250,000 or 300,000
dollars an episode. And it does shows where it's getting hot. There are good shows, it's
getting hot. But it's getting hot. You know, 19-2 was police patrols. You have to get
cars out on the street, you have to go to interventions. So big shows like that, there
are no more Vos Macri, there's none.
Even the show on the base camp of the army, it looks like it's shot in a...
in a siege, in a back class, you see?
There's no money, they don't move, there's no money left.
What's good is...
But if the policeman is a sniper, you know, he doesn't even need to fight, he just pops.
You see his emotion.
His emotion, when someone is eating in the street in the morning.
15 bucks. 15 bucks, I'll give you 15 bucks.
And then he's like, if he's not in a good mood...
Then he's in pain, he changes, he goes to the bathroom and cries.
He's only sleeping with a girl.
He's already there.
If you can hold a pizza box, it's all yours.
Oh yes.
Excellent. We have something.
We have a budget of 27.
We raised it.
I've had a lot of writing offers in recent years, and I have always refused because of that.
Because there is no way to make big series.
I find it disturbing because the platforms are multiplying in the world.
You have Scandinavian things that are amazing.
You have things that come from everywhere, you see that they put money.
And we here, we cut, we cut, we cut, we cut.
And they want us to do the same thing with that, in the shortest time.
You see, I meet actors that I know sometimes, they say,
hey, I'm all in, I just received my texts, I have 14 pages of blah blah to do in the afternoon.
We do a take and it's all stuck.
That's what we're watching.
Shit, I don't do that.
We're getting closer to improvisation.
Yes, but improvisation, we were freer. We were freer.
Yes, the same things.
That's what's wrong. If TV, let's say, cuts the budget, if they say,
look, we have less budget, so do what you want. You have 200,000,
have fun, you're the pro.
Invest in Norbo.
But there must be the same rules as before, but you're being shit and you don't have a sister.
But there are people who said in a sketch, there's no money.
Where is it? Where did it go? It's not something that disappeared in the world.
It creates as much wealth as before.
Where did the money go?
Where did the money go for that?
It's not true that movies, TV shows, shows are not profitable.
You look at everyone, and it's not good for the people.
It's not true. Because you watch a TV show, everything it does,
you look at the screenplay, everyone who works on it,
all the businessmen who work on it, all the industries that have to provide material
to make a TV show, it makes the economy roll to death.
So there's no...
It's like a way of thinking, I don't know where it comes from,
but it doesn't take us to the right place.
That's for sure.
The only thing I know about culture financing
is that I don't know of a cameraman who hides money in the Bahamas.
No, that's it.
So that money, when we say it stays here, it stays here.
It stays here. Yes, that's it.
That's the only certainty I have.
Yes, so it's complicated.
If we had the same conditions, if we had conditions to make big series,
heavy like 19-2 or midnight, yes, it would be tempting.
I think we have original ideas in Quebec, and if we dared to make ideas that others dare not to do, or midnight. Yes, it would be a bit of a So, Martin Mat will be doing a series with Prime. Have you had meetings, let's say, a series, either Netflix or Prime,
where they have an unlimited budget and they want to go get their own?
It's interesting, they don't have an unlimited budget.
What I've experienced with Netflix is that they have an algorithm.
So, yeah.
So, they have an algorithm. So yeah, in my head it's a machine,
but obviously it's more complex than a software,
but it gets the popularity of the actor who is involved in the project.
It gets the popularity of the other actor who is involved,
and the theme, it talks about what,
and then it's a computer.
And then everyone says, the algorithm gives you time.
How do you get your little nose?
With an artificial intelligence that manages an algorithm of that.
And then there's no more human beings who do like,
I put my house on'm like, fuck that.
I put my house on your idea.
One opinion.
You know...
I had...
Let's go, we're going all in.
A couple of years ago, Amazon wanted to launch more podcasts.
And I had a meeting with someone from Amazon who wanted to buy under the guise.
And then he was like, you like, we don't have money.
And I was like, hey, your boss is in a sparse right now.
I was like, you have money.
You can give me real cash or take it off.
That's it.
And he took it off.
He went on Mars.
That's it.
Now I'm in a hurry to the Helico Club.
So...
They're back in Gatineau.
It's not signed yet, but
they're going to give me 2 years free in exchange.
So thank you guys, thank you so much.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you all.
Go see it this summer, just for laughs. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Thank you all.
Go watch it this summer just for fun.
Go watch it on tour.
Listen to his podcast.
Bye everyone. Thank you.
Bye bye.
Thank you. Thanks, guys.