Mike Ward Sous Écoute - #535 - Michel Lauzière et Martin Perizzolo

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

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I was in Yann for 7 weeks on the North Coast. I usually walk around all the time. I have my little tour bus. I had a show in Bécomeau, a show in Sept-Îles. Then I had a show in Brossard. I didn't have time to do my show at 10 o'clock. So I came back by plane. But it's way easier.

In Sept-Îles, Montreal by plane, it took me two hours. I felt sick. I texted Steve, my director, to film. He asked me where I was going. I was at home drinking vodka. He was like, I'm coming to Forestville. I was like, call me coming to Forestville. And I was like, what's going on? But the shows were great. It was really fun.

But I realized that I wouldn't even have to do shows. And I think people wouldn't realize it. Because in Bicomo, I was in a bar, at the hotel. There was a little restaurant. It was a hotel restaurant, but I was in a bar, at the hotel, there was a little restaurant, it was a restaurant, but it was also a bar, there was a guy, pretty hot-headed, he came to see me and he was like, Asti, Asti, you're funny, Asti, you're funny,

I said thank you, he said, I saw you on the show, three years ago, you were funny, I did, where did you see me? And he said, I saw you at Boulatek. Three years ago, when I was playing with Amo, after the show, I went to Boulatek to get a beer. I played at the pool, but I had... Christ, it's a pool place, there's no stage. But he saw me in a pool place, and he thinks he saw me in a pool place and he thinks he saw me on stage. Not only does he think he saw me on stage, but it was funny in the tavern.

So I was like, why did I write gags? I should just walk from side bar, in the region. I just arrived, I took a trip to the pool, and then people were going to say, Hey Mike Ward, he's funny, the guy is smooth. So that's it, it was very funny, it made me run a lot. You have a nice little look today, you look athletic, you look built. I look like a... that's the thing about a cotton... But in the meantime, I... yeah, that's it, I did creche, I have air. But that's the beauty of cotton. Since everything is loose,

you know, I'm not obliged to do that. When you put... No, that's it, but I can tell you, I'm in the sauce. I'm... That's not it. Sa sauce! Shhh! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!

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Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! I'm more in shape. You look like a guy who takes a walk sometimes in the morning. I do. Chris, we started with, you look built. It looks like you take a walk. You look like a guy who ties his shoelaces. It's going to end up that you look like a guy who has a door under his bath. You look like a guy with a door under his bath. I take a walk sometimes. But it's all the shirt.

If you're a bit chubby, put cotton candy on. You'll have a better shape. I'm going to introduce you to the guests. This is the kind of episode that makes me the most excited. When you have someone who has lived a long, long, long career and who comes to listen to you for the first time, there are some who will discover it. I was talking about a lodge earlier. It's been 50 years since he started doing this job.

He went to Letterman three times. He did shows in 55 countries. This is my first guest. The other guest played in Quebec and... He's going to be a stage actor on November 4th. My other guest is a guy I love. He just launched his one man show. He has had the best critics of the last five years. I haven't had the chance to see his show yet, since I'm always playing at the pool at Bécamo.

But I can't wait to see it. Ladies and gentlemen, here are Martin Peridzolo and Michel Lausière. Applause Hi Michel, thank you for being here. Thank you Peridz. Applause Thank you for Peridze. Thank you for being here. It's my pleasure. Thank you very much for the invitation. Am I speaking at the right distance from the microphone?

I think so. For sure, all the older people will know you. You are one of the founding members of the FOUBRAC. You have held the first Gala just for Ré, I think. Not the first, the second year. The first was in 1983 and we succeeded in this, because in the time there were no platforms to present new ones. Yes, yes. And then we spent a while doing it in Ghana. We were making a good living with that, but

we were not known to the general public. In 1984, we did the selection. I don't remember how it was. There was no audition, but it must have been a video or something. Or a scouter. It worked. There was no audition. Someone saw you somewhere. Yes, we probably had a little demo.

And then they came somewhere. And what's fun is that in that time, I don't want to use that expression too much, because the old good men who said, you know, in my time, it's not better, it's different. It's that if you were making a gala, in a big hour of listening, just to laugh, it was like that, you didn't have a lot of humor. And there weren't a lot of TV posts either. You were like 2, 5 or 7. Even the...

If you didn't like that, you had to get up. If you didn't like that, you had to get up. It gives us a chance. So we did the festival and it was a... We really had a great success. When you say it, it reacted, you feel it. Was it the number with the Guineas? Not this time. I think we had a summary of our numbers, which was juggling,

a little ridiculous acrobatics. Even if we were poppies, we were poppies acrobats. Yes, because there are really impressive passes. And there are passes, it's just these two cavs. Exactly. But the two guys, they didn't do it. We were imitating the circus numbers, where they do something extraordinary. And we were doing some crazy stuff.

We looked proud without drawing, but in the context it was funny. But there were other things that came afterwards to confirm that it wasn't just... It wasn't too nono. Because absurdity, there's a limit between absurdity and nonsensicality. Sometimes it's just a question of... The context is perfect. The atmospheric pressure of the theater, I don't know. You must have immediately felt a difference.

In those years, you do a hit, a gala, just for fun. You went to do little shows in front of 80 people, to have full rooms. And precisely, the famous date of broadcast of our big success at the 1984 Festival, just for fun, we had the date, we knew that on Sunday, we were passing the chamber of the evening, and we knew that on Sunday we would be known everywhere in Quebec. And as a matter of fact, the week after, the agents called, we signed

with Chaux Biz International, Luc Fanouf, the father of Ben Fanouf, who took over the business. Not only did he take over, but he also... Oh, you signed with Fanouf? Yes, yes. He made some great artists, Plume, Jerry Boulet, Béreaux-Digueu-Biloubaud. Oh, Jerry Boulet was with Fanouf? Yes, yes. It was just music and you two. Yes, yes, I in Fennec, it was just music and you two.

Yes, yes, I understand what you mean. There was no other humorist than you two? No, you're right. And also, there were some humorists at that time, but not like today. There was no school, of course. And the stand-up was less known. For example, there were some limiters. There was Jean Guimauro, Claude some imitators. There was Jean-Guy Morot, Claude

Landry, Pierre Merville. And a lot of love for characters. Daniel Lemaire was a stand-up, but he made a lot of characters. Yes, Daniel Lemaire, who is also one of my generation. And also a guy from Drummondville. We were in the same class during… What's in the water in Drummondville? Yes, we were in the same class. We played in the same class during other things. What's in the water in Drummondville? We were in the same class, but we played in the same baseball league. Were you always humorless?

At the beginning, it was sketches that you were talking about, and you said, hey, it's better... We were always... We're going to be international! No, but it's the same. It's what allowed close it. No, but it's the only thing that allowed you to travel. It's always been verbal, not too much at some point, but verbal and very improvised. I've never done any improvisation.

In the improvisation classes, I know you've done a lot of it, young people in the guillemets. What? In the guillemets? Thank you, you guillemets, save us from the torture. That's nice. Thank you, Guy-Met! Thank you for the Guy-Met! You're the best! That's nice. That's the equivalent of your beautiful age! You're young, Guy-Met! That's exactly the formula I continued to use after I left the VWAC in 1988. It was our last show, but we talked, but we didn't talk too much because we had to mix visual and sound.

We also made music with, for example, the bicycle pumps, which were our, how would you say it, our trademark. I continued in the same direction. But the improv that I wanted to talk about was that our shows were so messy. I remember that we were leaving in the summer. I was going to school at the time. I was not even a child of the ball who left his family at 12 or 13 years old. I met my partner who was much more erotic than me, 13 years old. I met my partner who was much older than me, 13 years older. I met him when I was 13.

13 years old at 26, it makes a big difference, but the more it goes, the less the difference appears. And when I went to school, normally, we went in the summer. Excuse me, it's weird. Yes, it's weird. 26 and 13. I thought it would happen like in the bar. It's not for nothing. It's not for nothing that it was a whole story.

There was a big reaction from my parents and I understand it. He's with a man. How come you're not going to have a show with a a gentleman. How? Why are you talking to the wind? Okay, okay, we'll accept you in your life. At least there were shows right away. Before there were shows, I was driving around and he was a guy who was a game monitor at the time. And he did all sorts of things.

It was really a... It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience.

It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a very interesting experience. It was a guy who was a game monitor at the time. He was doing all sorts of things. He was really an original.

An original, it seems. And I was... Both, I think, because you proved after 50 years of career that you were an original too. Okay, so that's why I saw something in it and I was always fascinated by jugglers. When I was young, I used to listen to Elf and Leaven, because there were Beatles, of course. But sometimes there were also numbers of variety. The gentlemen who turn the plates, the acrobats, the jugglers. And I was fascinated by that. Yet, nobody in my family did that.

The artists, plus the circus artists, it must be because of that too that you don't talk. When you go see, let's say, a circus show, the clowns, they talk, they will say a word here and there, but it's basic English. That's what you do like the two acrobats. There was one little word here, one little word there, and it was really limited.

I know... I don't remember that one, do you remember better than me? Well, yes, I practiced it in the U.S. earlier. With a 13-year-old child who met... I was there, yeah. I did... No, no, but... The parents did... Oh yeah, okay, okay, go ahead. How are your daughters? Oh, okay. But it was still a mentor. And then, I didn't take care of those things.

But at one point, it became serious. There was really like a complaint to the police. And I had to, I was 14 at that time, I was in high school. Who filed the complaint? My parents. Okay. Because they were saying, what are you supposed you doing to hang out with the gentleman?

They filed a complaint to the police. Yes, but they said it was a minor's turn. But it wasn't really that they did it. But they just used that word. So, at some point after school, every week, I had to go to the police station, and I had to report to a... he wasn't a police officer in a suit, he was a detective. No, he was a detective, a social worker. It came after.

Yes, it existed at that time. The social worker, He came after me. Yes, yes, it existed. The social worker, the psychologist, it was like, hey, it's here. Stop making such a mess. Shut the hell up. So I guess that this man, he did his job a little bit, and the first week he said to me, Oh yes, correct, you report, it's correct. So, okay, next week.

I go there on Friday night. Friday night, after that, I introduce myself to him, and he says Next Friday, I'll introduce myself. And he'll say, who is this? I'll call him and I'll say, you had to come back. He'll start looking at the files. No files on you. You can go. I understood the message. So after that, I did amateur contests.

We were looking for... Wait, I have a a message. So, after that, I did amateur contests. We were looking for... But just... Wait, I have a question about this. I have one, two, eight questions. Ok, so you had to report... Ok, wait, it's fucked up because your parents... They say, hey, what's wrong? They don't understand.

I understand my parents. They're good parents. I think so. It's a bad detective. We don't understand that. But actually, no. You know, you commit a crime, it's not the victim who will report it. Yes, yes, yes. It's him who will report it.

It's like he wants to observe. I don't know. Because you were defending him. You said, no, no, there's nothing wrong. Everything's fine. Okay, observe. I don't know. Because you were defending him. You were saying that everything is fine. So he was doing... Oh, he likes that little hammer. Let's see.

So... So the trick is, if a pedophile with a child waits 8 days... You know... So what was we saying already? Eight days, because... But you have to be a good detective.

Yes, absolutely. Another thing is that it wasn't something funny. It was funny. In adolescence, you look for things, and you find something in a certain theme. Yes, you're good. It opens up to me, it taught me things. You know, to many, especially juggling and acrobatics.

Ok, it was me. Dissect! No, I'm kidding. You're right, we're here for that. But no, that's it, it's creepy, and I understand the tear, because it was late that's it. It was late to find... We are forced to find what we want to do very young.

You found it, you fell down by accident. And it makes you freak out. And then we put you in the street. Do you think sometimes, what would happen if you hadn't met this man? What would you do in life today? No, I never thought about that. I can think about it for two seconds if you want.

But it's because it's for sure that he is the great encounter of your life. I think it's extremely important, because it gave me this passion. In fact, it's confirmed. Otherwise, you think about it and it's fun, but there's nothing concrete that can help you get into something. At first, I should say that I didn't have the intention or the idea, or even I didn't imagine... To make a career? No, no, no. It was like, I'm going to ride this until I'm 18, and then... I see there's no problem with that.

No, no, I didn't... It's when you realized, OK, yes, it's going to be that all my life. Is it during the Foubrac or after when you started traveling? It's last year. OK, last year you realized, oh yes, it's probably not a past tense anymore. At the age of 10, yeah. No. I must admit that... wait a minute. I think it's when I saw it started to work. It's when it started to work.

When you were at Le Dermune... When you were at Le Dermune, you had to say, yeah, think about it, it's not worse. It's not worse. We're getting pretty far. It's pretty hard to say. What was your question? There wasn't any. You were talking about...

Oh yes, at what point... Go on. At what point did I think it would be possible to make a living with this? First, I was doing caricatures at the same time. So, humor, I was in humor. I started doing caricatures for the local newspaper in Drummondville, my hometown, about 16 years old. What is the newspaper? Is it the Express?

It's the Word. And so, already, I had a foot in humor. And at the stage level, I started winning amateur competitions, whether it was at the agricultural exhibition, at some point there was a singer, and it was really amateur, amateur. And suddenly I had won 20 bucks, I was so happy. The other time I won a meal at the restaurant. But 20 bucks at that time was 100 bucks.

At that time it was worth 3-dollar meal. At that time, it was worth 3,000-4,000. Oh, 3,000-4,000. No, not that much. It was rough. For me, because it was the first time in my life that I won money with something I had done on it. And I was so proud when I came back and I told my father, I did an amateur competition and I won 20 dollars. Your father, did you jump on the wall like the scammers, the first ticket he won? I couldn't spend it and won 20$. Your dad was typing on the wall like a The first ticket he won.

I couldn't spend it, you're right. Oh yeah, he couldn't spend it. He typed it, like you said. He typed it. Ah, well, it's very cool, it's perfect. Apparently that's what brings wealth and prosperity. No, that's not what I was trying to help you with in your gag. No, you shouldn't.

Hey, it's going to be a J-10 miss all night! When you see me in Lysée, just keep going! Let me die on the side of the road! Otherwise, we won't get out of here! We're a team here! That's the beauty of being in the middle! If one of the two doesn't like your comments, you just turn your back on him. We're going to jump a bit, but Peyreeds told us that when you did Letterman three times, The first time... I remember seeing you in rollerblades with water bottles that you were making... What song was it?

I made two. The first time it was Beethoven's 40th Symphony. I don't know the name, but everyone seems the air. So, just to summarize quickly, those who haven't seen it, there were two rows of bottles that were 450 feet long, distanced from about 1 meter. And I had lined wheelbarrows where I had installed small wooden

sticks with springs so that when I hung the bottles the sticks wouldn't fall. And you had sticks here. I had a spring so that when I was hanging the bottles, the bottles wouldn't fall. So it was like ding ding ding ding ding. And you had sticks, sticks here. I had sticks because the slope was light and I had to keep the speed constant to make my turn. So that's... It's visual, it's visual.

How do you do that? But wait, but wait, so the bottles are filled with water to make the right note. So they go over there and to make the right note. So they go on top of it and it makes the right note. And I think I'll put this number up and I'll take my life away five times before ten bottles. But how did you do it at the beginning? You have the idea. Then you filled the bottles and and leave them with your hand. First, I find the bottles because there are bottles that sound raw and bottles that sound lighter. It's like the world.

Seriously! The difficulty was... I had the crazy idea of... Passing that to customs... You live in Quebec, you arrive at customs with 4000 empty bottles, and they're like... Sir, why is there a homeless man in class? No, no, wait! Are you empty?

Are you empty or do you leave water in? Once the water is in, I move the bottle and that's my Mii Tabarnak. You don't touch it, it's my Mii. Exactly. Because you don't bother filling it up. How does it... You're right. It was a long time to find the bottles.

Once I found the bottles, and at some point there were big bottles of Vinci. Vinci, the red boot, if I remember correctly. Excuse me, it's not my drink. It doesn't exist anymore. And those bottles made the lowest notes. And for the highest notes, I took a few bottles of beer. But the beer bottles were more delicate because they could be easily reversed. But once I found my note, I moved it so that it evaporated and we wouldn't touch it anymore. So when I went to Letterman, I went with my Econoline and I had lots of bottles in the bottle, but they were also interlocking. So when I heard it, we grabbed a hole and it was like...

I said, hey, maybe that's what Mozart heard at the beginning, before putting them in order. It made a nice deal. I stopped making numbers because I had to drag a character, I had to drag a wig and a shirt. I was like, I can't carry this little wig anymore. It's tiring. Carrying a wig and a shirt. And you came with a But I had to transform half of a recycling bin, because I went to the big recycling bins in my neighborhood, in Laurentide, where people would put their empty bottles. I went in a couple of times in the bin because I saw the bottle I wanted.

Oh, I have my back! I have a nice back and a ground here! But I was careful because before leaving, I was looking if there was anyone who was picking up their bottle. Ah, yes, yes. But, in addition, to practice this, you practice this in the street in front of your house, where you find a street that is about the same angle. Did you go to New York with a level, and there you are looking for the same kind of slope in St. Sauvage? Yes, because it was in front of a studio, I think. Yes, yes. It was in front of a studio, you were doing that?

It was on Broadway. It was just next door. We were leaving Broadway and we were going to the next one. We were doing a block in total. So you can't practice there, since there's always traffic all the time? No, no. No, but at least that's not why I had my sticks. I knew there was a small slope, I had already been there.

But I found schools that helped me. It was in winter. I found schools, when I was practicing,, but I found schools that allowed me to open a door and do the whole length. So I practiced like that and at one point, this thing was delayed several times. You know, you announce something, you're invited to the tournament, you think it didn't happen because it's a big storm. After that, the next week, he's going to do it, but no, he didn't. So there was a kind of wait that was created. You know, he can never do it without a number. So what I said, it can happen anytime.

So I went to the United States. I didn't have any commitments there. I stayed there until there was no more snow. I don't know why I went to the United States. Oh, it's because it's warmer. So I went there. It would be ridiculous. And there, I practiced a big truck stop by boot.

I put a few measures. I practiced. Then the truckers stopped and looked at that. And the guys with turbans, all kinds of colors, they were like wow! I thought to myself, hey, I'm holding something. Especially because I knew that he was a man, he had seen a demo and they said, hey, we're going to close the street. Usually, he closed the corner because people who listened to this show often performed quite strangely on the outside.

Sometimes, it was on the building. Someone was crossing, going down. He was crossing a long road and we were watching him fall down. The same thing. But they never had to open the whole box. But there was a problem. At the end, which was my final, there was a parking lot. The shooting was going on for 4 or 5 hours. When everyone wanted to leave the parking lot.

I had to negotiate myself. While we were practicing outside, they asked me if I could do half of the job. Half of the job in 2.42 seconds. I didn't want to do 20 seconds. I said no. We absolutely have to do it the same way. They said we have a problem with him. I went to see the guy who was the guard of the parking lot.

He was a bodybuilder. He was wearing a nice jacket and a tie. Oops, sorry. a bodybuilder, a guy with a nice jacket, a tie, oops sorry, my mistake, a nice tie, and he was there and he was imposing and he knew and he used it. So I was very polite with him, not very polite, but I was polite. Did you have your rollerblades when you spoke to him? Yes, yes, yes. I was a you had... But it's still... I was a little bigger. I'm almost his size. But it's a good approach.

A buddy builder who arrived in rollerblade... A rollerblade with small sticks... He doesn't even feel his wheels. Yes, yes. With sticks, with sticks. And you don't want him to fall. Yes. Yes, that's it.

He breaks. It's the right approach. You know, you convince a lot of people tomorrow. Yes, if there had been small wheels, you would have had the bikes, you know, the bikes for the children. Yes. So you convinced the guy to turn and you convinced him to go. Yes.

And you convinced him to go. Yes. And you convinced him to go. Yes. And you convinced him to go. Yes. We've had a lot of people. If there had been small wheels, we would have had bikes and children. So you convinced the guy to open and let you do it. Yes, we did it. I told him, if we do this, I'm the one who was... I told him, if we close just five minutes before, we asked a production crew, a few minutes before, tell us, we'll close, put the yellow accounts there, we close, but we close for just about five minutes.

So then he said, oh, that's fine. So we saved ourselves like that and I was able to do it. I told you it's a relief when you say it's been about a month and a half that journalists say, hey, he's going to do something, go to the tournament, and then suddenly they're going to do half of it. That's what I've been hearing from you. It's going to fall. You have a month and then they'll do it again. That's what I've been doing since earlier. The world doesn't realize it, but your journey seems more complex than what you do, what we do. It's harder.

It's all about explaining, convincing people, and convincing your parents that it's okay, Mr. 26 years old. You know, it's convincing, it's convincing a lot. Your job is to convince people that you're a salesman. But you do your 42 seconds and we're like, wow, but with all that, you had to sell it and convince yourself that people speak another language, that can can break you in two. When you think about it, your first Letterman, it took two minutes before you got on the bus, you had to convince a guy...

While Céline, her first Letterman, she wasn't like, please, stop making jokes, two minutes, you're going to sing my song. And then... Yeah, that's it. But you say that I don't work like you guys, it's not true because apart from that, it's the only time I did a number that wasn't on a stage.

Yes, but I wasn't saying that, I was just saying that there are a lot of... You work like us, I identify myself, yes, yes, absolutely, but with weird ideas, it requires a lot of... but it inspires me, I listened to your whole Letterman story and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris, a melon on the ground. Don't say the email letter. Don't say, hey, it's not that I'm in the wrong. Hey, Dave, I have a good idea for you. There's another show on Netflix, you know, which is not quite the same thing. And me, the first time I saw you after Les Foubracs was,

I was a big fan of the Super Dave Osborne show. I had the impression that you had been there 30 times. I loved the show. Unfortunately, Bob Einstein died about 50 years ago. He's a great writer, an excellent one, which is great in my opinion. He was funny in Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yes, and that was his last important role. He played Marty Funkhouser, a very good role. So what was he?

Really what helped me to transition between working for about 20 years with a partner and suddenly you don't have a partner anymore, it's a re-adaptation. And so, the fact that I was offered to do a duo where he was the straight man, and I was the comic. So in the duo, before, I was the one preparing the gag for the other. People said you were the big one and the little one. I wasn't that big and he wasn't that big. And he wasn't that small either. Oh, you see, he was 13 years old.

We were like, yeah. But he arrived with a number. Instead of presenting the numbers of variety, because that's what I am, as you're present and you're leaving, he had the turn to integrate them into the show. He said, you're going to play the role of a guy who wants to do auditions, but he doesn't know it's not here.

He thinks he doesn't know we're filming. I said, I have something original, Super Dave. So I did a little niaiserie. At first, I said, my punch is that. He said, OK. We worked as a co-script, as you call it, co-writers. But we didn't write anything. We wrote what I had done. Once it was recorded and the show was over, he wrote it weird.

He said, OK, is he able to, my trick is to change the ass in one second. He said, is he able to change the panties in one second? So, is it possible to change your panties in a weird way in 5 seconds? OK, I do that. I do a niaiseuse that I invent on my neck, where I change panties in the same way. How do you do that? I'm fascinated. How do you change panties in one second? I had a trampoline, a little bigger than that, to do the exercise, it still exists. And I had velcro everywhere. And the dead velcro was there.

The dead velcro was on the trampoline. And it's important because the other has to be the opposite. Otherwise it doesn't fall off. And under my pants, excuse me Martin, can you hold my leg for a second please? So here, there was an elastic that was coming from there and coming there. So when there was an elastic below the pallet, there was a small pallet with some valcro, unlike what was here. So when I jumped on the trampoline, I jumped on the trampoline, the butt was there. I feel it coming out,, I detached it in half, I turned and landed in a greenhouse on the other side with hangers that were half open, but it was a precision of about

1 cm. Stop, stop, stop! This is a number that stressed me out so much, one day I said to myself, let's do the rehearsal, it's going well. One day I said to myself, let's turn around tour. I still remember, I said to myself, I want to change my mind, I can't do this anymore. It's way too stressful. I miss you so much.

It's like the circus world, let's say, that was jumping in... Except you, not only you hurt a little, but you also move your tail a little, like you're invited. Yes. But was it live? but you're moving the line a little bit like you're on TV. Yes, but was it live? It's a segment that I'm less familiar with, it's less part of my culture, this show.

I know the actor, but was it live? It was live, but it wasn't live. No, it wasn't live at all. Oh, it's a sketch. My memory, there was an audience behind the camera. No, there wasn't live at all. Not even to tape. Oh, it's a fool. I think so. My memory, there was a crowd behind the camera. No, there was a crowd. But live to tape is that you don't usually stop. I understand where I am, but there were little bits where we stopped.

So yes, it was things that... Fortunately, it wasn't always delicate and difficult and precise like that. But this one, just to say that when you come up with a punch, someone who was successful in my case, to make me do some elements that made him always put me out. He said no, he knew me, he said that's the director of the bicycle section of my complex. He supposedly had a complex to make these waterfalls. Because he was a waterfall maker, a character, obviously a waterfall maker,

who always got into trouble, but he claimed that his business was huge. It's like an evil can evil, but he did it every time. He was always dying in the basement. He closed the door, he caught fire, he always got something. So it never worked. But when he presented a guest, he would integrate it in a smart way. And the formula we did there, which was repeated several times with different numbers, I did it and then I was asked to do it with other famous people.

Other streetmen, other animators. Other animators in Chile, in Germany, in several places. Did you do it? Yes. Yes, we even did it. So you did TV. I know you did shows around the world, you also did TV around the world. Yes. I said TV in quotes.

I was filming. Did you play in China? Did you do TV in China? Yes. Before I played in China, it happened like that in several countries. At one point, when I did the tournament, it opened up to me. I had already played in about 25 countries, Europe, South America, many United States, but that's a bit of a surprise. Maybe that's it, we'll be in Germany soon. Yes, yes.

No, but I had already done that, and when I did Letterman, it opened up the Middle East. That means that it was just my website that made me think, Oh, would you like to do a television show? So I had some from China, I had a lot from Japan. And it wasn't going directly to you, you had... You didn't have a swimming agent. Yes, we jumped when I was more used to it. When I started solo, we talked about the Foubrakes. Yes, I'm here, I'm following you.

I started solo, but I started in a very rough way. I started with a ball number. Maybe some people have already heard that. Then I went into a ball and in time it was very original. I have a question. I've always wondered since I saw that number, when I was still quite young, how does the air come out when you take your arm out,

when you take your hands out and you applaud, I remember, before you come out of your head, How does the air stay in the balloon? The air stays in the balloon. It comes out, but I make sure it comes out as little as possible. When I start the number, it doesn't appear, but the balloon is a little longer than it is high. When I get in, I put it like that, and it doesn't really appear. And that's not what interests us, to see that he's missing a bit of air. So this number, we launched it so much that I did something like... about two or three months after launching it solo, I did it in South America, in Japan, in Holland, and it started like that. So I had five minutes, well, I didn't really have five minutes of numbers, I had maybe 20 minutes of minutes. And it was already starting to go like that.

So I said to myself, wow, that's stimulating. And then you ask again, and then you make another number. The challenge is to make another one. So it started the same way. So much later, suddenly I developed an agent in South America, one in Paris, one in Los Angeles. You had an agent everywhere in the world. In every place you had an agent. I had all kinds of show formats.

I could do five minutes on TV. I went to Tokyo, I did four minutes on TV, and I came back home. Ideally, I would do other things. Once, I did three continents in a week. I went back to Montreal and I changed assistant because he was not able to do it anymore. Because the back shift is hard. I took another assistant and did the rest. That's why I arrived at home and slept for two weeks.

But 13-year-olds are not strong. I understand that you're... I understand that you're changing. The 13-year-old is... Stay there. There, there. He stayed everywhere. So, China, the show you did?

I didn't do anything. It happened right after. Once I had several agents, I was always loyal to the agents. There were too many artists, and you sent a video and suddenly it turns out that they don't care. So I talk to the producer. Excuse me. I talk to the producer, I ask him if he received the video and I send it the month after. He says no. He's a guy who doesn't know the spiel.

It means you have to turn the batteries on. I say, we'll go live with you. I did it once, but in general, the agents died. There was always something that finally I found myself... But it's life. I'm older, I'm older than I look. No, but seriously, at one point I started... I'm not a seller.

You might have noticed that I might be a seller, but I consider myself... It's not my profession, I don't like that. And then I started to be able to answer. There was a wonderful invention that came, it was called the fax. The fax, listen to us. I got up in the morning, it often came from Europe. There are lots of beautiful shows here,

beautiful offers. So later, the internet went down, and then it came from China, so I started to have a request to go to a TV in China. After that, I did another one. In two years, I did three. So you represented yourself from a certain point of view? In a certain territory. Okay, in a certain territory.

Where the agents were not dead, I was still around. Okay, okay, okay. And you know, it was before Google Translate, so it was an offer for China with an approximate English? No, quite well. Even after two or three appearances, of course I did other things, two or three different national television appearances in China, four or five agents contacted me to do some tours. They knew I had a full show.

So I took the first one because I couldn't really check them. I took the first one and I did three tours in China between 2013 and 2014. What does a tour in China look like? How many shows? What are the cities? Do you just do the big shows? I did the big shows. They were often cities I had never heard of. What does it represent? 10 big cities? Maybe 10 or 12 big cities per tour.

Or the cities. The cities are all big. A city called Chongqing, I just found out. I thought you were lying. You are Chongqing! It's not right to do that. No! You play in Chongqing! It's not right to do that.

No, no, no! Chongqing! I watched the population in Chongqing. I was twice as big as New York. I had been a fan of a tour in China about ten years ago. And I remember every time I arrived in a village, they apologized for the population. They were like, excuse us, it's just a small town. We're just three million.

How much is it? When I was in Wuhan, I was like, how much is it? The big Wuhan. And he said, ah, it's like 30 million. I had made 30 million tabarnak. It's Canada at the time! It's like your village, it's Canada! I apologize for adding...

I have the same phobia of having the drop in my nose. Excuse me, I almost caught the rum. So, Wuhan, it's fun because I'm there. We're talking about Wuhan, we're getting nervous. Yes, exactly. I wasn't really surprised that the virus... Comes from there? Comes from there. When I was there, I remember very well that I was taking a walk, I was looking at the ladies in the morning, I was doing the time shift,

and I saw that the ladies were washed their laundry on the rocks of a river with thick green water. I really find it quite peculiar. It seems that they use a good detergent, I hope. But the other interesting thing is that there were markets. Sometimes, modernity was there. There were big buildings. There were big, beautiful buildings. Yes, and there were wet markets too. And lots and lots of small streets where there were, did you call them wet markets? Yes.

Why did you call them wet markets? Because everything is wet and disgusting. I don't think that's why they call them that. But I think they call them wet markets because they mix aquatic and animal, they put everyone in the same cage. They say, I have two cages, we'll put fish and a cat. And a monkey. In Wuhan, one of the things I didn't even have to note, because it struck me so much, is that in a small market in the city, or the equivalent of a market in the city,

they call it the same, a wet market in Opus, the equivalent of a market in Opus is called the same, a wet market maybe. I don't think that's what I'm talking about. That's the name. You know, the bags in which we buy oranges and lemons, in a bag like that, there were three big frogs, like my big fist, as big, even a little bigger than me, huge, alive frogs. And he was at 3 pour 1 piasse this week. No, it's a good deal. I have a store that opens, the frog in a net bag.

It's a good deal. 3 pour 1 piasse is a good deal. I would have jumped on it. I have no idea. But it's a world. It must be the easiest thing to steal in the world. You open your bag and it jumps out of your hand. No, no, no.

It's not bad. It's not bad. You're already... Little fly. Very little fly. But I've traveled a little, but the local markets, if you want to be peaceful, that's the place. And if you want to be peaceful, China is the place. I heard in another podcast that you went to China, but I thought you went there to visit,

because I was thinking about a stand-up show? Did you do it in English? Yes, I did it in English. Okay. And I had done about fifteen cities. It was from a gag. There was a guy, he was originally from Montreal, who had the Shanghai Comedy Club. When I was in high school, when I had my first green card, he had just written to me on Twitter in a gag, he wrote, Hey Mike Ward, you should come and play in China, you'll see we have more freedom of expression here than you there.

And he wrote me without a gag, so I wrote it, I said, hey I know it's a gag, but I would go. You know, I wanted to travel, and then he contacted, there were just two comedy clubs there, there was the Shanghai Comedy Club, the Beijing Comedy Club. They got together to book, but for me it wasn't a tour, you know, like you, it was a theater, it was a bunch of things, it was small cafes, it was very underground. I didn't, when I arrived, I pretended to be a tourist. That's about in what that? 2014-15? 2014-15. After that, it closed a lot.

I thought it was because of me. No, I wouldn't think so. Even at the time, I thought that the passion for the accident was obvious. Even in the lobby of the hotel, a big lobby, where we would go to eat. There was a big lunch buffet and there was all kinds of stuff in there. And I would eat in a way that was for me a meal. Because of the time shift, I don't know, I had some trouble. So whatever.

But it was... He was playing something that I find ridiculous. A big screen, he was playing Tom and Jerry in black and white. As if for them, he was enjoying it, because there must be a lot of tourists in summer, because it's a big hotel, as if they were western tourists, I mean. So he wanted to make us happy by playing something

that I didn't even listen to when I was little. Same thing for Russia and Ukraine. I worked at the two beaches. It was much more open. In years like this... The years that go by! No, no, no. That's what I'm talking about. I plugged in what I knew about this international policy. No, but he had a tag, it fascinated me. I stopped following him after. I stopped following him.

Yeah, you missed a bit. But I have a question. Because when we look, you know, I asked you, we talked a little while ago that we were coming in. But, you know, you started at 13, and you were kidnapped by a man at 13. The term is sequestered. You start in there and you do that. I look at your numbers and I refreshed my memory.

Afternoon, I checked and I saw things you did in Germany, Italy. We're talking about Italy, we speak Italian and work in China, we say that you speak a little in your numbers, there is a little bit of speech, and you speak, in the numbers I saw, you speak German, I saw you speak Italian, and all your numbers, and people who don't know what you do, go see, what he does is ingenuity, he shows things. It's crazy mental. He uses everyday objects and transforms them into... It's crazy what you do.

You do things like acrobatics. I... I... And, okay, and the things you do, you have to know the music. It's that you have knowledge... For a guy who's a sacralist, that's a question! It's... It's... Or is it... It's that you have a knowledge pack,

you went to get your training, or... How did you learn all these things? Because it's clear that you master music. Hey, filling a bottle of water... Fill a bottle with just enough water so that it sounds like the right note. You have to know music, you know? You have to know the languages, you have to know the engineering. How did you learn all that? How?

That's my question. But, Belle, your question, for example. Wait. I don't know if there was enough detail in his question. I'm asking you. Could you repeat it please? I didn't understand. How... With everything you did,

where did you learn your stuff? Autodidact? The answer is short. Autodidact. So, let's move on to another question. I gave you the answer without any further ado. The worst thing about to have a flash, then a good podcast or something, you know, a web series,

it's the endless questions of Martin Perritier. Yes! It's just you, you ask a question, with layers and layers and layers. For a minute, 9 minutes, 11 minutes, and then the question is just... Yes. What? 9 minutes, 11 minutes, and then the question is... The answer is just... Yeah.

What? Or just, oh, it's fun. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, you're doing it. Oh yeah, I knew it. That's what I was thinking. I doubted it. Okay.

But, for me, it's the pleasure of learning things that I didn't study at school. Yeah. So, music, unfortunately, I didn't... That's what I'm saying. When you left... That's a long question. When you left the Fouvraks, you were 13 years old. No, excuse me.

I met the guy. We started doing things, practicing acrobatics, juggling, but the first show, I was 15, maybe. 14 acrobatics and juggling, but my first show was maybe 15. 14-15. Which is a lot better! Yes, it changes everything! Gala Jusporé, you were 19-20 years old. Gala Jusporé, I was... I was 84. I was 30.

Okay, okay, okay. I don't know why, but in my head, I was like, you became my professional risk at 13, so I was like, now you learn, you keep learning. Ok, ok, so did you keep going to school? I know there are historians of humor who listen, so I have to say that I did the first shows for, like, while going to school, sometimes it's the end of the school year, or when you go to a session, and there were people who sang at the end, or others who did other things. But to say to become a professional, it's a big word, because even I went to the CEGEP,

so at CEGEP I was 18, 19 years old, so the fougra, it took time before it became concrete, even if we did small summer tours, we would arrive from a parish and ask the priest if we could use his parish room. They would announce it to us on Sunday evening. On Sunday afternoon, they would say, come and see this. They would take half of the recipes. Today, it's with Facebook. You have to put money in the ad. That's right. We would go out with 75$, how much was your bill at that time?

Today it's a good 3,000-15,000$ at the time. But the curie didn't touch you, it was a good deal. Yes, it's true. Some people got worse. So to say that it started to be something that allowed us to live a little bit, it was just when we did the famous Jules Poirier, the other one we talked about earlier. When you were 30, so all your 20s were artists. When you shot the gala in the summer, and then you know it will be broadcast in October. When people call you for shows, you say, Chris, can you negotiate on Monday?

Yes, yes. Right now, I'm worth 20 bucks, but if on Monday, the 4th of October, I'm worth 800. Because already, our first Gala Just For Laugh, it had an impact, but nothing like ours. What year is your first gala just for laughs, it had an impact but nothing like yours. When was your first gala? I don't know. I'm trying to remember. It was in the late 90s. It was in the late 90s.

98, 99. There were still some that had an impact but it wasn't... I think it had an impact from the beginning of 2000. Yes, yes, yes. Until André Sauvé, Rachid. There was one per year until 2005. But it's funny because you look at a guy like Simon Gouache, it wasn't in the Galloq, but it had an impact. But it's a Galloq number that leaked on the Internet,

which went viral, with reason, that's amazing. So it has an impact, but just differently. It's still an impact, you always have to be good as much as possible. That's why, bravo, you do a good job, and I'm sure there are other questions. I'm going to go to your place, because we haven't talked about you. No, we haven't talked about you. I wanted to be here with Michel. You just launched your one-man show, Dramatis. You've had incredible reviews. Yes, for once.

No, but for once in my life. What is not so disturbing as we think, because I had good critics and I read them and I was like, damn, it really touches me and all that. Now you remember the old people who are sick. The bad critics that all your life you have tried to survive, you have a death crisis, I have a death crisis. But when you receive good criticism, if you want it to be true, you have to accept all the shit that happened before. So it was a three-week intense psychologist. So do you believe in good criticism? Oh yes, immediately. I deny, I deny everything I did before. Oh, I'm a bitch. Everything I did before was a fucking mess.

They were right. They were right until the end. The critics are... And I wanted... What? I wanted to introduce you. I put your date on the list. I was the one who wrote it.

I was the one who wrote it. I didn't know anything about it. You wrote it in a guide, but it's your party date. It's my party, yes. It's going to be your party for 50 years. 50 years. On November 4. The 5th is the day after my party. It's a little bit more of my party. I know there are people who do it on the weekends.

You do it two nights. I do it two nights. I celebrate two nights. There's even a casino in the middle of the street. It's in the 8th or the 9th. It's still my party. So if you want to celebrate with me, 4 or 5, the 8th of the casino. That's the time.

Because after that, it's not my party anymore. It's going to change. There won't be a cake. I'm not looking for a cake. Don't come to St. Augustine. I'm going to do an encyclopedia. There won't have a cake since my party. It would have changed. There won't be a cake. Don't come to Saint-Eustat. I'm writing if there will be a cake. It's too complicated. Gluten, lactose, fuck off.

You should buy your cake. You know, your party... I noticed that your answers can be long too. Yes, yes. Effectively. It's good. All of them. It's a good answer.

It doesn't put you under pressure. It's true that when you have the right criticism, you've already done your job. But it doesn't put you under pressure to say, I'll have to choose again without a cut. Well, no, because I was really in a hurry. When I did my first one, I was in a hurry. Then I did the first one, and I was bad. So it takes away all the pressure.

I have fun. But that's really it. In fact, I think I have fun with this show. I came back to the basics. In recent times, I've had the chance to learn that. It took me a long time. I'm long in everything because I'm long to learn too. It took me 30 years before I learned to have fun and have fun.

And the show I did, I did it for myself. What would I like to see as a show? What I didn't do before, I tried to do it so that's what I had to do. You look happy on stage now, something you didn't look like before. I always thought you were good, but on stage you looked like... It looks like he's getting pissed off to be here. We're bothering him with our smiles. But now you look happy. You're in a You look happy.

You're in a good period of your life, I think. That's right. I'm long in everything. It took me 30 years to learn. Someone who is slow to learn, I'm the same. It's just because I'm quiet that I persevere. Often, I was with friends, for example, and we drew together. we were 13 years old.

We had fun drawing, and he was good, he had it, it was easy. I was fighting, I took the time and he stopped because he was already good. You became an artist in visual art. I became visual art. Two years later, I was the caricaturist for the local newspaper. When you say the name of the newspaper... You have bad critics. No, no, no. I thought it was a bad joke.

I was happy to say it, but you're talking about it again. But it's fun to have this newspaper because when you cut, you cut the word. Oh, well, that's good! And then I thought of this gag when you were talking to him and I said, Oh no, shut up, it's bad, it's bad. But then with a couple of drinks too, then... Hey, but that, 16 years old, getting a check for jokes, and jokes, and drawings that you do, it's's crazy.

Do you remember the cash? It was $20. $20 too? Okay. It's true. It's all the time. It's all $20. It's all $20. A prize of $20.

And at one point, even, I was doing the fougraques and then I was doing drawings. I was going to school. I was doing lots of things. I was in the club of Anne Ball, from the Cégep, a little older. I continued to draw. At one point, during the Olympics, the cartoonist of Montreal Matin, one of the main newspapers in Montreal at the time,

took a vacation. Marc Lerando, who was one of my heroes, because he was one of the cynics, became editor-in-chief of that newspaper. I sent my drawings everywhere I went. I wondered how I was doing. I was with Girard in his office, and we spent hours together.

I went to Norman Houdon, another great caricaturist, and I went to his place with his wife in the morning. We spent the day there, he served champagne, she served apple juice, and we played. Oh, he was 13, that's for sure! No, I'm not 13! But all of this leads me to say that Mr. Lourando, who is aware of my drawings, offered me the job for two weeks, during the Olympics, during the holidays. In the newspaper? Yes, in the newspaper. From Montreal.

Not from Montreal, but from the newspaper. From Montreal Morning. But I want to remember. But I'll finish my story, it's not long. It's not long. I'm a long-term story, it's not long. After that... Well, it's not long! I'm a long-term specialist, it's average. It's average long.

I have to say it's a bit long. You're right. But finally, after two weeks, they did the job for me. And I had a big decision. Did you remember? Yes, no, it was worth it. They did the job for me all the time. Not all the time, I mean regularly.

So, in other words, it was you who took the place of the time. Not all the time, I mean regularly. So, in other words, it means you're taking the other person's place. And then I was doing shows and the two of them started to arrive at... At the same time. It's like, welcome to the big ones. They offer you a position of the main caricaturists in Quebec. And I thought a lot and I said no, because I felt that there was... I had to be available to do the... The guys who are more expensive than 20 dollars.

Exactly. We charge 30, 30 bucks for the shows. Yes, that's it. I'm not going to get into that. Did you draw for Crow? Yes. I tried. Wait a minute. What did I do with Crow? I published paintings. Yes, that's it. But it's not regular. But I was thinking of doing caricatures, I had presented that.

He said, well, the comic book is done, we'll do another review, you'll come back. But in the end, I didn't have time to come back. It's the same man, Pierre Huet, who directed Cro, who hired us, the Foubracs, for our first big show in Montreal in 1976. So after that, it started to be a little more... We had a name, first, we found a name, it's a bit hazy. We just found a name, Les Foubrac. But we looked at each other and said, they are Foubrac.

I went to see the shoot of Dominique Paquet. Yes, exactly. And it's Pierre Hubert who was with me, who had the other ticket. So I sat down, ah, write Pierre Hubert, we jaded. It's fun to see. A good man. An encyclopedia on two legs. Well, yes.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. Sorry, sorry. But you wouldn't have had time to do the caricatures and the shows of the Foubrans? Or did you think it was your partner who would be jealous of your success? No, not at all. It has nothing to do with it. It was not realistic to do caricatures every day. I usually did it two or three times a week, but I published one every day, of course. But to be regular and to be creative all the time, and always comic and relevant. You have to stay current.

For example, I had to go to the village caricaturist and he received you with champagne. I always have the impression that... No, no, apple juice. No, no, but he had apple juice, but the other one had champagne. But I have the impression that to be a good caricaturist, you have to be close to people. And I think that there is no one less close to people than someone who receives you at champagne. That's true. In the afternoon.

In the afternoon, champagne is disconnected in a tabarnak. Well, in the week. In the week? On a Tuesday afternoon, you drink champagne, and you leave. I apologize. We have nothing to say. You're too ashamed to be an alcoholic. You want to be like, no, no, I'm a little gay! I'm a little gay! Go get my foulard!

You drink your champagne, you suck your boogaloo with your foulard! Satan! The class! I'm a dandy! I'm a dandy! They're good gentlemen because they received me. I was taking the bus, I didn't have a car. I was taking the bus and I was arriving in Montreal, in the big city. It must be tough to say no to a gig like that.

When you're on the bus and you're like, I can feel the wind, it's going to take off. But now I have a real job with a real salary, and I wouldn't have to go left and right at that time. But I liked going left and right. It was my dream to go left and right. I think it was a good decision because I had a good contact with other caricaturists and I saw that it wasn't easy. It would have been more difficult to have a family of five children like I had. Five children? Yes, five children.

I imagine that your wife or partner, or your partner, I was going to say partner, she's not five children. She's 13 years older than me. your wife, partner, or partner. Your partner. She's 13 years older than me. 13 years older than you. Great. It's still... I was going to say... I imagine she's part of the business. You travel around the world.

You've said three continents in a week. You're often on the road. You're not the world, you travel around the world, you know, you said three continents in one week, you know, you're often there, you're often at the end. It wasn't you who was having lunch that week. When I was there, well, we kids were having lunch the other day, you know, my year has limits, especially when it comes to 14 years old, you know. Yeah, five children. Yeah, 13 years old, that's what I mean. I think so. 13 years old, you'll remind me.

Well, 13 years old is okay, but at 14, it's wrong. But I think it's for real. When you're little, you treat your first child like a baby until he's 18, if you're only one. But when you're 4 or 5, you have to be like, hey, you're 4, you're going to get a lot of money. Go away! Go clean the trash! But you have to say, when there are many, the older ones, the younger ones, they don't have any trouble. The older ones see what's going on, the children are like animals. They see what's allowed. They're old enough to play mullet. I could have my children in a room in Spain, in China. They're in the I don't know. No, no, I'm not correct. But after that, the third, fourth and last, the last one was raised by himself.

It's the biggest ones who are taking care of it. He's here, it's because of him that I'm here. The youngest? Yes, he'll be 30 soon. He was raised by the other four. I was happy because I wanted to have you on my show for years and I didn't know how to contact you. The other day, Michel told me that his son, Michel Lausière, asked me if I wanted to have his father. I said yes. So it was booked and you were booked and you weren't even very honest.

He didn't even tell me. He told me yesterday. No, that's not true. He told me the next day. Did he tell you directly, do you remember Mike Ward? Of course. You're going to see him? Yes, yes, certainly. And there's another one who's here too. I don't want to... There's another one from 2006 who's here.

Hello, Marc too. Oh yes. No, whether it's equitable. Marc is here. He loves you just as much. Yes. He's here because of the other one. The other one, he's here because of the other one.

I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to much. He's here because of the other one. The other one, Marc, you know, is also entitled to it. It would be crazy if Marc paid for his ticket tonight.

And what about your children? Are there any that followed in your footsteps? No, most of them did very well. Ok. No, no, no, wait. I know that one of your children was working as a genius and it wasn't enough for him. Yes, that's Joel. Joel. So... So... So... So...

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So... So... So... So... So... So... So... So... So... So... So... You're a little Hey, Yann, do you have any questions? Yes, there are three good ones.

By the way, I just saw on Mr. Lausière's website that his paintings are sick. Thank you. His paintings are sick, they are magrits. It's a magrit style. In oil painting, magrit is my inspiration. It's not a copy, but the influence is assumed. It's a great genius. And all the humor too.

Humor appears through your faces. It's really beautiful. Thank you very much. It's simple. Maybe the question is not in the opposite direction. Sam asks, for Mr. Lousière, where does your inspiration for the numbers, variety come from? Do you have an idol of youth? When I was young, I wanted to be like the Beatles or the cynics. Curiously, what I do is related to music. And it's also something that I was approached by Mr....

Let's see what you say. Another glass of wine is good. I was approached by Mr.... Let's see what you say. Another glass of wine, it's good. Oh, yes. Mr. Lerando, excuse me. And yes, it was one of the cynics who became a journalist. And he asked me... A noodle of youth on the part of that, I would say...

I would say Chaplin. Chaplin, there is something in him that I is both clownish, visual, but brilliant. When you do a job like mine, where I use objects, there is always a little physical and visual humor. There is always a little prejudice that I felt over the years in the show industry in general. They use accessories, so it's like a little shell down there. So I said to myself, yes, I understand that there were also a lot of sideshow that were like weird things, but between weird and original, sometimes you have to be careful. The original sometimes also has a little freak side.

I understand what you mean. It's true that the comic props, I myself do it like that. That's why I understand it. Because I saw it and I said to myself, if I want to do that, I look at what is done in the visual, and that always attracted me, but I want to innovate in it. I don't want to be the orchestra man with the bass drum in the back,

but I made an orchestra man who has never been seen with my tapataquise stuff. Oh yeah, with the guitar in the head. That's my orchestra man. You're a musician, it's amazing, you're really a musician. You're a one, it's amazing. You're a one-man-band. I saw that number. You play the guitar, and with your head you play the drums. No, you do it with your face. It's amazing. Again. I don't know. It's amazing. It's really the definition of a one-man-band. You know, you do the whole thing, you're alone. It's impressive.

You know, like Daniel Grenier, have you ever seen Daniel Grenier from the Chick-N-Soul? Have you ever seen him? I think he goes in the same zone as you, Alain, but in his own way. I find it funny, but I also speak a little, but not much. Because I did things in 15 languages, I don't understand them all. I mean, I learned what I had to say, and then, for example, a gag, I said a little, but not much. I did things in 15 languages, but I don't understand them all.

I learned what I had to say. If I put on a dress with a slipper and a lot of claps, and I just did other things before, I put it in front of the audience, I have to say what. I find gags that I translate in the right languages. Did it work? It worked fine. I'm talking about what you say, because sometimes, when translating... I understand what you're saying.

It worked. It's always a gag. Besides, when I wrote a gag, I was sure that the gag wasn't based on something, a word play in a language. Or something particular. I was saying, my habit of action... You can't say in German, Hey, how do you say, Hey, I look like Guillaume Paz, I'm here.

That's it. But... That's it. I'll give you an example. Something I translated into about 15 languages, it's in Turkish, in full English. Then a Russian, then a... It was that I put on a horn habit, to which I stuck a a little

box with strategic here, there, there, there. I have 18 notes. I have to put it in and it takes a while. I thought I would get it in. I said, well, I presented before, a lot of instruments made with cheap things.

I said, for example, it was expensive. Because the La Petre room is about 20 cents a piece, or a rupee, whatever. The tlaxons aren't that expensive either, but all the bikes I had to buy to get the tlaxons... The gag, I wrote it in German, because I'm doing a series of shows there. I translated it in English and then I did it in French. But it's done in any language. And then you arrived in the country, you asked someone, you said your joke, and then did you record it to listen to it? Yes.

Is it the kind of thing that you listened to for, let's say, two hours, just the sentence in German until you said it? At least 13 hours. Okay. And then... And then... I'm on it. I saw what you did. I saw what you did.

I was like... He's a dental. Perfect. Perfect. I was doing it before because I'm like you, I don't learn fast. Slowly, yeah. He said it! No, but it's very serious. So I sent my text, which was a few paragraphs, and if it was five minutes, it wasn't long,

and if it was a month of Manchurian, it was long. I also did it for things that were one hour and a quarter. But I had to study it. So I translated it in the language I needed, and when I took the plane, or even before, I would record it. They sent needed. And when I took the plane, or even before, I would record that. They would send it to me to record it, and I would practice my words. But at some point, when I went to Anxin, I grabbed my wall.

That's when you run, you do the marathon, and you get to the 37th or 38th kilometer, and suddenly you have no energy. Well, I grabbed my wall of languages there, because Mandarin, I was able to do it by doing my numbers, but I was way too busy thinking about what I was going to say, and I was just resting there. So I said, no, no, no, I made a record that made the links between the numbers, and the rest was okay. And did you do lip sync? Oh no. Okay. You weren't like...

You weren't like... You were like... Ni hao ni hao... For example? We were just like... I was like... That would have been a good joke. I could have borrowed it if I reincarnated.

But it wouldn't have been good if you had put it in. It starts with you saying, this is lip sync. And for real, you see it here in the kitchen. Can we have some wine too? Yeah, we'll have some. When, let's say, there's an American artist

who comes in English and they just say, Hello, Montreal, I'm happy. We're like, Where is he? And like... Where is he? Where is he? And he said three words in my language. Here are my heels.

I'm showing my heels. But you know, if you know 28 words, even if there's a... You know, it's not always the perfect accent. It's never the perfect accent, that's for sure. But it's kind of the charm, in quotes, is that you talk to the world, and you say... And you hope they don't answer. Because... You hope they don't answer.

Yeah, there's nothing to say about that. You learn a sentence, you say it, and then he responds. Another sentence. Don't speak. I had planned that. Another sentence I asked at the end was, the sentence was the following, you translate that into Chinese or whatever,

I don't speak the language. Everything I heard from you heard from you by heart. I learned that because I told him, he came to sign a program, whatever, and I was like blablabla. I said my word, the French, the French. It means it shouldn't be bad. It's clear that I had an accent, but... Another thing would be to have an hearing aid, and you do it like you're deaf. And then you hear a... But what if he does...

You're dead. Because I didn't know, but the sign language changes... It's not the same in each country. It's not the same in each country. Oh yeah. It's crazy. I saw it. I learned it a little.

It's the little check. What you just said, you have a little accent when you do it like that. Yes, well, that's for sure. I have an accent. Because I know that language. I have the elbow... Yes, that's for sure. You have the Italian elbow.

OK, Jan, next question. In 2018, you performed at Buckingham Palace for the 70th anniversary of the King Charles. How was that? It was stressful, please. I was talking about that earlier with the little gang and I was saying that one of my sons was having a race this morning, it was very long and very difficult, and he said to me, you know, it comes to my nose and I say, what am I doing here? I said yes, when I was doing races, it came to my nose and I was saying to myself, you're suffering, what am I doing here? But there, at Buckingham Palace, I was so nervous waiting for the performance that I lay down under a table, because I was

there and I came back, it wasn't long, I lay down under a table in my room because I was trying to sleep a little and I was not able to. I was so nervous, I said to myself, I don't want to live this anymore, what am I doing here? And yet I said to myself, I'm trying to reason, I've been doing shows for a long time, they asked me, etc. It must be okay, but then my wife arrived, because when it was beautiful places and places like Hawaii, she came to that time. Oh yes. When it was quite... When you go to Wang, she does...

She arrives, she... Wang. And she went to see a little bit the room, saw people getting settled in. She had a nice place. She said, Hey, Maggie Smith is here. And there's this other actor, Maggie Smith, the one who's in charge of Harry Potter. I said, Tell me about him. Stop telling me who he is.

I don't want to know. She said, I know there's the Queen, and there's going to be Charles, but the others don't need to know. It's funny that there's the queen and then there's Charles, but she's the daughter of Harry Potter. Yes, but the lady. attention to my action number that I was talking about earlier, which is probably the one that I find most representative of what I did. When the time came, they asked me not to use my sheet of paper, my scores supposedly, because I have drawings with little boys and dots. That tells me that I did the thing, and when the point is vis-à-vis the knee, it means that it's the note that plays because I don't really read the music.

So all the scores are from you who does the... Yes, exactly. You're complaining about that. So another musician comes in and he goes... Especially, he's trying to learn that from the violinist. You can't use that. They asked me to make a number that would be completely classical. Because in my number, I made it myself, there are classical pieces, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Mozart, and all that, but it was cut off all of a sudden, as if I was getting lost and I was playing...

I change places. And if ever, because it's very difficult to do this number perfectly, if ever there is a piece that I don't do as I should, a little piece that I have trouble with tonight, I don't leave it four times. I do it, oh my God, I change pages. And then, the fact that they tell me, we'd like you to do this, all classical, and there are 17 musicians who will be there with you, who will all follow you, who will follow you, and they'll accompany you. So, they just took my thread off.

Oh my fucking God. And I've always had a thread. Even when I was a little bit stubborn at the beginning, I said, hey, I'm not sure I have my business. They said, we would like it. I said, well, according to my experience, if someone invites you, the producer knows what he wants. It must be better.

So I said I'm going to take it so seriously. It must have cost more than 20 dollars, that gig. So you do like... OK, but I understand. In addition, you've never done it with an orchestra behind you? No, never. So, you know, there... No. And are they the ones following you or are you the one following them?

Are you the one leading? It's me who should lead. Yes, but I should be the one leading like the world. Because, listen... Otherwise they will follow you in a different direction. Imagine the impact. No, but imagine the impact. How it goes... Wa wa wa.

Yes, yes. I laugh. Then you know, you go, you know, you just got yourself and when you go out, you hear FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR FUR Tabarnak played for the king and he's not able to have a glass of wine! But it was... No, but it was really... Oh yes, thank you, William! Thank you very much! Tabarnak!

Thank you, thank you! No, really, I was... Fortunately, I said yes, and I practiced so much that at one point, I said to myself, I'm going to do it. I did it everywhere. I did it in the toilet. I did it everywhere, because it was a big, big toilet. No, but it was at the Ritz in London. Imagine, and then the world that's there, you know, I open the door, boom see someone. It's Kerry. How do you sign a US Secretary of State? John Kerry. Exactly. A great man. I said, oh, sorry, it's John Kerry. So he's from the same world. It's just to make you feel like you're not in of world of its own. And it's just to put you in appetite. You're not in the world of the Vedettes at all.

The other funny thing is that they take us to the limousine. And then at some point, we arrive, the limousine arrives, I run to the side of Buckingham Palace, at the entrance. And then there are two, two, three young people who rush, rush, and they come to see, they come to see in the limousine, to see who it is. Come on. It's us.

Oh yeah, well, you know, I'm still thinking about it, yeah. Who is it? It's us. I'm still thinking about it. It was good. What I find fun is that I don't do any more shows. I decided to stop. I said before that when people will stop asking me, I will be discouraged. I still have offers and I say no. It's very physical what you do or what you were doing.

Let's say you're 80 years old, it's demanding. That's why I stopped. Even for a 50-year-old guy, it must be demanding. Your wife wants to have her spoon, her slush for soup. Stop blowing in it. It's all objects. All these things are all objects. I told you, half of her kitchen, half of her garage.

It takes a garage to have your career, absolutely. It's definitely a garage. It's definitely a garage, you bastard. Your garage is your basement has four floors. Oh, what is this? It's a glass. Yes, but that... That's it.

That's it. No, but for real. No, I don't have the absolute ear. I don't have the absolute ear, but... But on the other hand, the relative ear means that if two glasses make another... Same note. Okay, make me a tune. I drank it all for nothing.

It would be crazy if you were to go everywhere and you were like, ok, this one is correct, I have another one, I'll get another one. We'll end up on a... I'll make you a vase. How many questions are left? There's one last question left. Have you ever had numbers that were too dangerous, that you had the idea or that you even started to build but that were too dangerous to do? Me, no. Me, no one ever told me anything. Too dangerous?

I don't know. Me, yes. Ha ha ha! Oh my God! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! But you have to have numbers.

Sometimes you have an idea, you do it, and you do it. When it works, it's euphoria. but if once out of three it works, it's not worth it. There were times when I wasn't too dangerous, but at a certain point I think it will work, and I try it, and I see that it's not that hard. And when I try a new number, it's always in the middle of the show. You're sure you're in a good spot where you've already done your intro,

and you're sure of your end, where you trust, in any case, most of the time. And then you try something new. Or I rework it, or I present it differently once or twice, but otherwise I don't do it. But too dangerous? I don't think so. I've never done anything dangerous. You try it twice and if it doesn't work after two or three times, it's over. That's right. I remember that in the past.

I did stand-up, but at school they forced us to do characters. And I often got stuck in stand-up. Getting stuck in stand-up, it doesn't hurt because you can do a little joke, and then you go into something that works. But as a character, I found that humiliating, since I was like, you're still dressed! I'm still the factor that... You've come off the idea. Yes, I come off the idea. I do my business.

I've seen, in this most funny business I've ever seen in my life, Jean-François Mercier, in the time, there was a number where he arrived... Jean-François was bigger in the time. He arrived in Bobbette-Lepore. And his first line was, I saw the Tarzan movie, it was good as hell! And then he was talking about the Tarzan movie.

All along. And I saw him doing that in a bar, and it didn't work at all. The world didn't get on board, so he cut his number, and he goes to another You know, all the work you put in, let's say your balloon number, to see the disappointment of the world through a balloon, it must be heavy. It breaks your balloon. Oh yeah, it breaks your balloon, indeed.

Another word game, you started off with a word. Yeah, wow! Carly, what's in the rum? It's good. But if the balloon was blowing at the wrong time, unfortunately I could see it very well because there was no balloon. But it happened a couple of times. But in general I had a change. So it was expected that if it was blowing at the wrong time, which is always possible,

at least I would go get another one and start over. I do that with condoms. OK! I always have another spare. So that's it. So it happened once, there was no room to put the spare, so it broke down. I was doing this like this tonight.

Oh, it's like a call? No, it's on a boat. Because, you know, on holidays, when I didn't work, there was a company of cruisers who hired us. Well, my wife and I, she came as my assistant. Oh, a cruiser, that's for sure, she'll be there, she'll be there! Well, yes, well, yes. Oh yeah!

And I was doing one or two, two, I was doing a little number like that at the very beginning, because they have great theaters in there, it's incredible, it's like real housewives' halls. Yes, it's crazy, with big boats there. Yes, absolutely. And then I was doing that number, and to invite people to see my two 15 minutes a week, you know, because every week we sometimes crossed cross the Atlantic or the Pacific. And then this time, the balloon blew.

You know, you feel like you're all naked. There was music and I was waiting for the music to finish because it was always blowing towards the end. And when the music was finished, I was doing a hey. A little bit like that. No, I mean, I was doing it as if it was planned. was planned, but I knew it wasn't true. Yeah. And then you're crossing the street at the buffet.

Since you have a boat. Yeah, in a mini-city. So you're like... But at least there were two thirds of the number that had been visible. And they couldn't see the show anyway. Sometimes we did that in the place where there was the big theater and there was also a small club. And there were always small clubs. And I said to myself, you do two shows in 15 minutes and everything is paid.

And we took nice vacations in the middle of the sea. Did you have a salary or was it just the 10,000 if we paid for three times? No, it was a paid salary. It was a nice vacation. I couldn't do that often and for a long time, but I would do it once or twice if I spoke a language that interested them, you know? I don't think that in Quebec, they would say, Oh, the dramatist, that's not good. But it's a nice chance to do that.

But once it was my fault because I did the ball game where the first time in my life, I was a girl. OK. How many times in your life on stage? The first time in my life, no, yeah, that's it. I had always been a girl, you go on stage? First time in my life? No, I've never been on stage. I had spent the summer in Monte Carlo. My wife had come, you guessed. I started to know your wife. You like me, you'll tell me.

Yes, that's it. Yes, pretty girl, no. Will you come to see me at Saint-Eustache, no! So, we're going through the summer in full, and we only had three children at that time. And my wife wanted others. I wasn't in there until... Oh yeah, it's fun when the last two are in a row! They're the ones who work hard! They're like, hey, let's book it! Maybe he'll love me!

It's a good jet set, but that's what happened. We spent the whole summer, the little family, in the sun. It's just, listen, the other side of the street is Monte Carlo, and it's big like Mayole Monte Carlo. So, you see, we were overlooking the casino, and I was working at the Sporting Club, which is a big room with the roof open, not far away, and then in a magazine. I wasn't alone. And then what happened was that I arrived a little before the rehearsal, and my family, who came with my little family, three children only,

and my wife came back a week before me. So the day they leave, I'm going to drive them back to the airport. I come back, suddenly the apartment was already very small, but with a nice teacup, but all alone. And suddenly what I see is a little boy who had been forgotten. The little 2-year-old who is there, he is 36, he had forgotten, well, it's not him, he had forgotten the boy, but anyway. Well yes, it's really, it's really, it's a good thing you have come back. Little 2 years, you know, yes.

Your 2 years, really, it's true. You're two years old! That's it! I really had a kind of emotional shock when I saw that. I was like, I'm the family! I love that! So I said to myself, I think... I think so! So I took a bottle of wine, and we usually empty it in two, I empty it all by myself. Then I had to work afterwards. I had to work afterwards, and I was in the water.

When the family arrived, I finished with the number of the balloon, I jumped on one leg, I worked afterwards and I was a It was... The end was...... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

... ... ...... I was going crazy. It must have been a clown. When you have him in your mouth. I didn't expect him to be a guy with a balloon. Nothing was expected. All I could do was to show you what was expected, I would blow it up, and then I would do my little thing again, like, you know, I'm done. But then, I said to myself, it didn't really happen that time.

And then after the show, I called my wife, I said, hey, I have news for you, we're going to have another child. Usually it's the wife who calls, huh? It's me who said it. I knew she wanted one. So, that's all to say that this little boy made the one who studied medicine, he was the one who arrived. And it also made the last one who was here, when my wife said I think I'm in 5 and we didn't want more than that, I said, hey, wait a minute. No, no, but he had a planned trip. He had a planned trip to a beautiful city, that's why. It's true that we didn't plan it. But my wife told me, I think I'm pregnant, I'm going to do a test.

I said, wait a minute, Suzanne. If I punch you in the stomach hard... So, continue. First, I'm sure you're pregnant. I was looking at her and she fell pregnant, not complicated. I'm sure you're pregnant and I was watching her when she was pregnant. I'm sure you're pregnant and we're watching her. Yeah, good fuck! I'm sure you're pregnant and we're watching her.

And I just learned that my father was going to die. So it was like a spiritual thing. Not spiritual, but I understand. So because of the tibet, all the others are there. By the way, the one who lost his boy, he's here and look tibet, all the others are here. By the way, the one who lost his hat is here. Look at his feet, he's missing a hat. He's trying to recognize him. Sure.

Never mind his hats. No, but I just thought that my father died on June 1. Oh, it's true. How long has it been? 95 years. Oh, shit. It's been 30 years. It's been 30 years, but sympathies still years, but we still have a lot of sympathy.

Oh, yeah. We're happy about that. Oh boy. I like that. That's what you always do when you listen to us. I saw you laughing. You didn't know it was your first time. I saw you laughing, then we're mad.

We're always laughing, then we make veterans cry. Thank you so much, Michel. Congratulations on your career. Thank you for sharing it with us. Thank you, Martin. Thank you all. Have a good evening, everyone. What's your father's name?

Marcel. Marcel, thank you, Marcel. Bye bye. you