Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - DAVIDO: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 223
Episode Date: June 11, 2023We are joined by the globally renowned artist, Davido. We delve into the extraordinary life and career of the Nigerian superstar, exploring the triumphs, challenges, and invaluable wisdom acquired alo...ng the way. Davido has left an incrdible mark on the music industry. A trailblazer in the Afrobeat genre, he has successfully bridged the gap between African and international music markets, captivating fans across the globe with his infectious sound and charismatic persona. With numerous awards and accolades to his name, Davido's journey to the pinnacle of success has been a testament to his unwavering determination and exceptional talent. From his breakthrough single, "Dami Duro," to chart-topping hits like "Fall," "If," and "Fem," his discography is a testament to his ability to produce chart-topping bangers that resonate with listeners from all walks of life.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame
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I just want to know how do you feel.
Afrobeats is on another level.
The world is respected and it's bracing it.
They loving it.
You live on both sides of the game.
America, Africa.
How was it growing up for you?
You know what I'm saying?
coming up, you know, over here.
How was it?
You know, first of all, like, I'm second generation, like,
back and forth in my family, like, going to, you know, America and been in Nigeria.
My parents actually, you know, finished their university in America.
You know, I'm going from, straight from Nigeria.
My dad, my dad graduated from Kentucky.
You know what I'm saying?
My mom, I think Clarks in Atlanta, Atlanta.
So I'm second generation, you know.
But, you know, with me, it was really more of, we mainly stayed in Lagos, and we'd come to America for, like, the holiday.
So it was kind of a thing where, like, the kind of, you know, successful people that were in Nigeria at the time, in, like, every holiday, all the kids, you know, like, all the rich kids, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we take a holiday to either London or go to America.
So that's really how I started coming.
I was born over here.
so a lot of times what happened was that you know a lot of parents would bring come over here especially
people who had money and you know could get to America to give birth over here so we don't got to go through
all the visas and all of that so once you get birth over here in America you you're from
automatically a citizen so I came here my mom gave birth to me and I left after like five months
you know back home with the passport and boy that blue passport you don't understand it has helped me
like my whole life yeah
So, you know, that's that.
And then, you know, just coming back and forth.
But I didn't really, really stay in the U.S.,
like really stay, like, live to, like, close to, like,
when I was getting to college.
So let me ask you this question, though.
So by the fact that you was born in the States,
did they give you any issues going back to Africa?
What?
They welcome you, like, the blue passport.
Yeah.
That blue passport.
Yeah, but what I'm saying, you go to London,
you with a blue passport.
Yeah, they'll welcome you,
but you're taking your ass home, nigga.
You're from over there.
How long are you going to be here?
Yeah.
No, but your parents is Nigerian, so.
Oh, okay.
I have dual citizenship.
So when I got back home,
yeah.
Obviously, to get to back home,
I got to get a visa.
Yeah.
I don't understand what you're saying.
Yeah.
If I'm American, yeah,
I got to get a visa to get back home.
Right.
So when I got back home, obviously,
they probably took me to...
But how you mean, get back home.
Your home is now here.
You was born here.
No, it doesn't work.
See, I used to argue all the time.
Yeah.
I used to like,
Like, even when I got to college, and I'll be like, where are you from?
They'd be like, I'm American, my dad is like, I'm like, no, it don't work like that.
Right.
Wherever your parents are from, in Africa, that's where you're from.
Right.
So if you're Liberian and your people left there 500 years ago, if you come to America, you're librarian, but you're American, but I'm asking where you're from, like, you're a librarian.
So I know in America, it's where you're born.
That's where you're from.
Right.
Where you people are from?
When they ask you back on, where are you from?
I'm talking about blood.
blood.
I'm not talking about
what's your nationality
or, you know what I'm saying?
What neighborhood you was wrong.
Yeah, so home is, like I said,
just being born over here
it was because my parents
had the means to bring me over here.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know what I'm saying?
It was good.
Let me ask you a question.
Did you ever take any flack
from being born over here?
Like as far as in your music,
you know, hate motherfuckers.
Well, he wasn't born.
He's not originally born here.
No, no, no.
Oh, that's beautiful then.
I think because, no, I think also because that part of my life didn't come out until I blew up.
Oh, okay.
You feel me?
I didn't come out saying, oh, I was, I didn't come out.
Oh, people thought I lived in Nigeria.
Right.
It's later on, like, three years, four years down the line of my career.
People started, I told like, oh, yeah, I did come to college and stuff like that.
It wasn't like I was introduced, like, as an American artist in Nigeria.
Oh, no.
Like, I've been in the street.
I've been, like, back home.
all that all the only thing is that i just i could fly anytime i wanted like go to america
every time i wanted that was beautiful you don't understand till date i don't care how much
how much money you got that blue passports is worth more than a million dollars i'm telling you
it's crazy because like just even with like it's crazy just even with like booking venues
like if like okay for example we're going to australia for a tour so it's like to get it to
Australia is so hard. So even parts of
like my band members, they're
getting difficulties into like getting the
papers because, just because of that
passport. Do you understand? But obviously
it's kind of easier for me because of the blue passport.
So that's like an example of how
it kind of has been easy for me.
How was it that? See, you've been in the
game for a while before Applebees
blew up. And you was
getting embraced by a lot of
hip-hop artists. You didn't did songs
with anybody from me,
Rick Rose. Chris, Chris,
Chris Brown, young thug
Like, everybody was fucking with you.
Everybody was fucking with you.
The two babies, yeah, yeah.
But people were fucking with you before it blew up.
Like, they was already born you in fancy music.
Because of Atlanta.
Yeah.
So I can explain that.
Obviously, like, even before, like, even before, okay,
so when I, when I, my dad sent me to college
in Alabama, I was 15 years old
in college.
So it's like, I'm young.
First of all, I'm African.
I'm black.
You know what I'm saying?
The only kind of advantage I really had was like,
I just always had paper on me.
So I go in there, you know how that goes being in an all-black college?
You got paper, you good, whatever.
Right.
You 12 years old, you 13.
So my sister, my sister went like two years, like,
she went like three, four years before me, school.
So when I'm coming to America, she tells me, she's like,
when you get to school, like in our language,
like when you get to school, don't tell them you have 15 or.
like nobody will fuck with you type shit
so I'm like cool
because like I say
where I'm from
if I show you a 13 years old
you'll never believe it
right
thing like a grown man
you know what I'm saying
so me I'm coming with
we call it OTI orientation
so I'm coming to America with like
orientation
I'm 15 but I got that orientation
I was like a 22 year old
you know I'm saying
so I remember I land
I land in America
I have my school stuff
so I'm coming from
I'm coming from grade 11
that's like over here
that's like 12th grade.
So I'm going to college.
Blah, I land.
The first school, actually the first school
they took me to, I was in Tennessee.
Yeah.
It was an all-white Christian college.
Flunked out after like one semester.
So then they moved me to Alabama,
HVCU.
Next to the school was Alabama A&M.
Oh, yeah.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So I remember about, like, my uncle dropping me off
on campus.
So my daddy's telling him, like, okay,
we're going to take you three schools.
pick the one you want to go to
because obviously
you don't like that one
or white one
so we got to Oakwood
and then I've seen
the first
you're making you enter the school
when you walk into
the registration
where you go
register
two dreadheads
just passed me
spending like
we
you're like
yeah
I said
I said
I think I'll be able to
money
but still at Christian
school
because my dad is a
big Christian
so any university
I'm going to
it must be Christian
school
you must go to church
So in that school
you have to go to church
Wednesdays
Saturday
we're seven day
Venice
You know what I'm saying
So we got to go church
on Saturdays
So I enrolled in then
So when I enrolled in that school
That is when I really start
understanding
The fact that
Yo
These people are really not
Educated about Africa
At all
You know what I'm saying
Like I said
I only come for holidays
So I'm not
You know what I'm saying
Come for holidays
I'm not really notice
saying nothing, you know what I'm saying?
So I remember, you know, when you get at the dorm, they fix you up with a roommate.
And I think the first guy they put me in was from, like, New York or something, I can't
remember by his name.
So he's asking me, like, oh, where are you from?
I'm like, yeah, I'm from Nigeria.
I was like, oh, like, where are you from?
I'm not from Nigeria.
Like, how'd you get here?
I'm like, bro, I just flew him from Nigeria, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, a couple months ago.
He was like, wow, like, you guys have airports?
You guys have, do you know what I'm saying?
So that was really like my first.
It was a little different.
He'd be a moderate.
that nigga was like y'all niggas got airport son yeah
the mother's son is airport
what part of New York from was he from Brooklyn
yeah it was from Brooklyn hold a hold up time out
now listen he came right in there so you're from
this is a twist this is a twist
Liberia where fuck is that son we like where you from
there's two type of people right there's two type of people
that I don't give a fuck where you go at in the world
a nigga from Brooklyn a nigga from Nigeria
they every fucking way in the world
I'm talking about there everywhere
Listen, them the two places
With them two people
It's everywhere in the world
So y'all, I'm talking about
That's crazy
And you're gonna say something?
Motherfucking, Nigeria must be
the Brooklyn of Africa.
Yes.
Because they're some hustling motherfuckers, man.
If you can survive in Lagos,
you can't survive anywhere in this world.
I'm telling you.
I was in Japan.
We was walking down the street
and Nigerian nigga
tried to get us to come into a strip club.
You talk about I run this.
This is my strip club.
Come in.
I'm like,
Nick, me, it's your pain.
So what fuck you do?
What is true?
That's crazy.
So I think, also I think that
that was like the perfect person
that like they could have put me with.
So once I go into school,
I start hanging around like the New York people
because to me,
those are the closest,
I'm happy you said that,
because to me,
those are the closest people to our Nigerians way.
Just how like New York,
Jake and.
So from there, that's really like
how I started like being out here
and then, you know,
like then like I'm in you know I'm in the dorm just chilling
and then like I remember like two three weeks after
I'm like you know what I've been in the door
let me try and explore and see what's going on in school I walk around
blah blah I started making some friends and then you want to see the masses
come on man yeah yeah yeah from there that's when like they kind of kind of
knew like yo this guy's kind of different like they didn't really know it was kind of weird
Like, oh, what your people do, bro?
You know, those kind of questions.
And then from there, you know, I was just how old.
They knew you was different.
He said he had their paper.
He always said he had their papers.
I know, let me tell you why.
So there was one day, right?
I'd never forget.
So it was one day.
I remember, like, after we eat, like, my friends,
they always go line up somewhere.
You know what I'm saying?
And apparently it was like, I think this place called financial aid.
So I ain't know about that.
Yeah.
That you're paid for.
That's your pay for.
So my only's food, food.
My daddy's even paying.
He's paying like 10 months, like five years in advance.
Right.
So I was asking him my friend.
I'm like, why are you guys?
What is this line?
He's like, young guy?
I'm like, what's that?
He was like, come, let me take you.
Then he takes me to the account office because he's just trying to make sure I'm okay.
Right.
He even trying to see if my hand was you're sleeping.
He's trying to make sure that I'm okay.
They pulled the records up all of him.
They start talking to Africa.
Add a plus.
You know how you have the minus?
I have an overt.
word, I had, like, plus 27,000.
Bro, he can look at me so crazy.
Because he'd take you in there, I just want to make sure my man, financial aid cool.
They pulled them up.
They're like, yo, get the fuck out.
We're not giving you no money.
That means you got more money in there.
So I ask him, like, what are this plus 27,000?
I mean, he's like, oh, that means you have, like, extra money.
I'm like, oh.
That means your pop over paid.
Could I get it?
You try to get the money.
He showed me how to get it
Boy, I was on from them
Oh, you took the money out
It all came from his pop
Damn
That didn't come from the government
Then she came from his pop saying
How much is it?
It was like it's $27,000
This year's pop said
47,000
No, he was doing crazy
Just in case he needs something
No, no
He wasn't doing it because
He didn't even think I knew
He was just doing it
Probably just leave bed there
That was the best shit
That he could have did
It sucked it to your pocket
I got it though
I know
Because you can get the check
Bye by
Anyway like
Fast forward
That's when I got that check
Start hanging out with the New York people
Left the dorm
Yeah left the dorm
Doing all that
Mind you
I'm still like
15 and a half
You're in a party with all the checks
I was dating a girl
She was like
I don't know if I could say it
I was doing a girl like much older
So this time I was like 16
I had tattoos
bro, as in
how they get me?
Them New York niggas
church you
bruh
every jays that came out
all the jays
that was coming out on Friday
I'll buy it for
five of my friends
every Friday
while I go to the mall
while buying the new jays
then like the new polos
then it was like polo
that shit was like
coming to a man
you were hanging
with the New York niggas
and I was paying for everything
too
oh you know they're something
Vanessa nigger
they said son
All they tell me like
they tell me like
okay this the new ones
that come out
I said how are we outside
Niggin, we get them.
So we get the shoes.
We go to the game.
And this time I'm like 16, 17, like.
And you hanging with niggins, the 18 to 19?
No, yeah, they think, no.
I'm hanging with girls older than that.
Chilling, boy.
So after that, then that's how I kind of like
goes into the music.
I was really serious about the music.
So you weren't even doing music then?
I was, like, kind of,
but it wasn't like, I didn't like have a studio set up
and all of that.
So that's when I kind of like,
because I had a friend through the Jamaicans,
but he was like a gospel singer.
So he was like our roommate.
His name was J-Mo.
So he was a gospel singer.
And then that's when I, like, one day I went to his room.
And then I seen, like, studio equipment just like this.
The gospel singers.
So I'm like, that's why I'm always hearing music.
He stays upstairs of where we used to stay.
So I'm like, that's why I'm always hearing music.
He was like, yeah, he does gospel music.
That's my first time I see.
interface
mic set up
all that
I'm like oh
so you record
then
I'm like okay
so how much
is all this stuff
he's like
like a good set
up
probably like
1500
like that
and you said
Nick or what
I was like
oh yeah
so from Dan
got the equipment
fast
you got that shit
in two days
go about everything
no actually
went to the store
I went to the store
guitar center
I never forget
today I went to like my first trip
went to guitar center
bought all the equipment
and that was the beginning of like
my musical journey
from that point
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Stop playing games.
Damn.
So let me ask you a question.
Are you recording in college?
Yeah, so I bought the equipment.
And then obviously, I'm not recording myself in college.
Don't forget, I'm around a bunch of the York people.
Oh, I'll rap.
Oh, all rap.
So I'm like, but.
So I started just like, I started using them to, like, practice
because I was really more focused on, like, musical engineering and stuff.
like that. I plan to call my dad
like at the end of the semester. Like, oh, dad, I want to
change. I think I had, like, I was doing
like business major. Yeah.
And the marketing minor. I wanted to change
it to like a minor in music
technology.
Any of them New York niggas try to talk, you in the
manager, no?
Sponsoring them.
Same thing.
No, but hey, do you know the crazy
stuff? No, I'm going to get to that.
So after I did that, I was recording, like,
mixtapes for people, because I was just
using it. I wasn't charging them.
Right.
I was using it to, like, get better.
Right.
So there's this one dude from Philly, funny enough.
I mean, I promise you, he's upstairs.
I recorded his whole mixtape.
Did he put it out?
It was called, I remember, I never forget,
it was called the guillotine or some stuff like that.
He put it out or like whatever, like him then,
it was like lime wire or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Or like, what's the, there's some popular stuff?
But he put it out.
So I was getting better, getting better.
So he got to a point where it's like,
so I've done, like,
It was like a year and a half, been in America.
So now I'm in America.
So, like, after a while, my cousins from Atlanta, they all moved back to Atlanta, and they do music too.
So I'd go, then I started coming to Atlanta every weekend.
So this is where, you know, I'm trying to tell you, like, how the whole Atlanta thing.
So I try to come to Atlanta every weekend to see my cousins.
I'll get on the Greyhound.
Only me, I'll get on the Greyhound.
I'll go from Huntsville.
the Greyhound was like
$117. I go from Huntsville.
The Greyhound takes me to...
I've seen so much shit, right, Greyhound.
I see him like Cracken's having sex.
Bro, that's crazy shit.
Yeah.
He used to be a Greyhound Warrior, too.
Crazy. So from Huntsville,
it would take us to...
We'll stop in Birmingham, Alabama.
From Birmingham, Alabama,
I don't know if it's Memphis.
I would stop somewhere before we now
get to Atlanta. So I used to do that
like every weekend.
because my Monday I got to get back to school
because my dad had an uncle there
that was like my supervisor
because obviously I was not of age
but then I had my older brother's ID
and come down here and turn it up
yeah so I could I was good
so I come to Atlanta every
you know I'm saying every weekend
you know start recording
you know my cousins
people are in the hood
I said I had so much weed for free
because I record all the drug dealas
big car big car
different people
you're right on and I'm doing this all
like people don't even know my background
I'm just doing this because I want to learn
I want to get better so it's like I'm just
They paying you a weed thinking you fucked up
huh man take this little half ounce man
So we did that
And then from there that's
That's when I was like I don't want to go to school no more
Like I really want this one I want to do the music thing
And stuff so started moving my way around Atlanta
That time like A call was really big
How did your parents feel about that?
No they didn't know
So you just dropped that
My man passed when I was not.
Oh, okay.
So it was really my dad.
So my, this time, I'm telling me my dad thinks I'm in school.
Yeah.
He doesn't know about me doing music.
No way.
Oh, shit.
Nothing about it.
Right.
So over coming to Atlanta so much, I'm being so focused on being in school.
Sorry, being so focused on the music, I forgot about school.
Like, completely.
I just fell in love directly with music.
Yeah.
So my grace was bad.
It was crazy.
Like, like, so I.
I remember when my first, the grades, like, first bad grades came back.
And, like, normally I'll send it to my dad, send it to my dad.
So this time, it's like, you don't send me your grades this time.
I said, no, no, no, no.
I said, this semester, I don't know, something happened.
I think Obama became president.
I was like, oh, because Obama, the black pride, I lied.
I said something.
There's no school.
There's no results to say.
But I'd flunked out.
So it's time to go home for Christmas.
Every December, like I said,
go back to Nigeria
I tell you go back to Nigeria
when you come here
boy
I went back to Nigeria
boy
ha ha
I'm seeing
Lambo's
I'm seeing
I'm seeing
I'm seeing
Bentley's
Mastomartins
niggas
rome Lexus
APs
I'm like
I'm like
what's going on
like the
entertainment industry
making so much
money
so I've seen it
from before
like happening in Nigeria
I remember
being in the club
then like
the biggest artist
was like
P Square
DeBanj.
Like, even then,
Whis kid was like,
young, he was really young.
But, like,
I remember, like,
him just coming up
in the game.
So the game was coming up.
And I remember that moment,
I was like,
I want to do Nigerian music.
Yeah.
I want to get in on this early.
Like,
I can really tell, like,
it's going to be big.
Big, yeah.
So whatever I was doing in America,
like,
I just started focusing on African music.
Yeah.
So my plan was,
okay, I'm here for Christmas.
I'm about to go back,
you know,
try to get these grades up.
and then transform.
You know, I told you I'm in a Christian
at Ventus University.
So you can transfer your grades.
And there was one in Nigeria.
So my plan was moved the grades to Nigeria.
Right.
Blah.
Pop's like, nah, fuck that.
Go back to school.
Right.
So that's how I came back to America
and then ran away again.
And that's how I finally said,
I'm doing music.
And that's how I finally left school.
So just even just going to Atlanta all the time
and just being around Atlanta,
lifetime. As soon as I got like
some type of success
from Africa, you know what I'm saying?
I came out back here
and just started finishing my way.
Did you ever go back to Africa though and start
fucking with the music? Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
So when I came back
to trying to get the grades
up and stuff, my dad had found out
that I lied about that one time
and he got the real grades
and all that. So I'm like, shit,
I'm already fucked up.
I can't, I know there's one thing about Africa
fire homes if you leave if you do something bad don't go back until you have become something of
yourself yeah you know what I'm saying like don't go home like if you like if you're like you left
a failure can never come back in failure I don't care how long you stay away from home you
cannot come back a fail you must pull back up with that G wagon with that Rolex so like with some
cash in your pocket you know what I'm saying like yeah nigga like that type shit yeah so in my head
I'm like almost like I ain't going back and I have a big
family so all I'm in here is why can't you be like this guy right don't you be like this guy so I'm
like fuck that like I ain't even going back on that shit like I'll be on the road I'm on demon time
I'm outside right it's already I'm already fucked up so I moved back to Nigeria start hustling bro
just like imagine a billionaire child sleeping on the floor bro like yeah I'm coming like a 60 million
dollar house 15 minutes away I'm sleeping on my friend couch on the floor right just because
I must do this music I can't go back away
Yeah, you can't go back home
because you dropped the fuck out.
You lied and told you dad.
He told you my fucking dad,
Obama got elected to the Lord of the Lord of Lump.
That was a crazy one.
I thought about that shit for about five months. He said
that shit don't make no sense, man.
The fuck Obama getting elected.
Your uncle was slipping.
Your uncle was slipping.
He was supposed to be watching you.
He was over a party.
He was over there party.
They got some ass is so bad.
I don't know.
My dad, he can watch this.
But his son,
Man, me and that's something we used to blow down.
So, Tim, we used to go to the back, blow down.
Fucking Saturday, right?
That was your brother or your uncle?
No, it was just like my dad's friend, you know?
So, like an uncle to me.
They said Tim thinking Tim was responsible.
Tim, they got some good-ass wheel over there, nephew, you hear me?
Because I told you, I always had on my pocket at all times.
That's 200, 20, 30, 30, 30.
It's always on me.
You know what?
And then, we ain't smoking smoking, because you know what I'm saying?
then a quarter was like $25
or some perp or some regular
That nigga just called him
Bring me 15 quarters
I'm calling the house
He's like this
All getting blazed the fuck up
Huh
Didn't even know your pop think he'd here
Being responsible or shit
So from then
Obviously like my dad
Then my dad finds out
You know what I'm saying that
Yeah
Dude ain't been in school
Blah blah blah
So, then I run away feel like my dad looking for me.
I feel like a good.
And I'm the last child.
His last child.
Pop was talking crazy about you.
He cut everybody off.
No more allowance.
Even to staff.
Everybody going to look for David.
There they come.
Where the fuck was you running at?
And your pop got all these people.
Man, he was a couch warrior, man.
I was, I was in.
You were sleeping on his own big couch?
No, I was in Lagos first.
And it got too hot.
So then I ran to London.
I had a passport.
Keep telling me.
So you was able to move around?
If I had to go to Russia, if I had the money,
I can't just go to a ticket counter and buy it.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So at this time, think about it,
I've been telling you the stories on school.
So at this time, I'm like 17, you know what I'm saying?
About it hit 17.
So I had to go to London because it was just hot.
My sister calling me,
oh, dad tripping, brother, blah,
he cuts everybody off.
Damn.
Imagine a billionaire cutting everybody off.
Like, he shut the whole shit down.
Like, David don't call.
come back, I ain't bad again, shit.
So everybody called me, like, you're fucking up
about our own pew. Do you understand?
So I was in London.
I was London for like four months.
I had a girlfriend at the time.
London. One of my guys was chilling.
He had a studio in his house.
You know what I'm saying? So that's really
when I got time to, like, record.
So this whole time, this is like, when, like,
Facebook was popping. So all my family members,
every morning I'd wake up to like 20 new messages.
You need to come back home.
blah, blah,
your dad,
this one,
blah,
I'm like,
God,
just leave me.
I don't want to
do this music.
I don't want
anything from you.
I don't want to do
this music,
but it was just like,
he was like,
no.
Like,
nah,
he ain't,
he ain't bugging.
He ain't budging.
So I found a way
to, like,
get some bread,
you know what I'm saying?
I came up a little bit.
Then I was like,
I mean,
equivalence to like
$60,000,
you know what I'm saying?
I was,
like, 17?
Yeah.
So I was like,
shit,
I'm going to get this paper,
go back to Nigeria, get an apartment,
build a studio, and start working.
And, you know, before I left,
because I was from America,
so every time I'd be in the club,
me and my boys already act like
with stars already.
So people in Nigeria, industry,
I already knew, like, about us.
And obviously, they knew like,
his dad has money, all that.
So I already kind of knew people in the industry.
I knew whiskey, I knew Wandaq, I knew DeBanche.
So my plan was,
Shamba was about to go back and turn up.
But, and I knew I was good.
I had the music, I had the music sense, everything.
So I moved back to Nigeria fully.
First time, instead a couple months left, came back.
Boy, when I was now going back with the money, you know, had the plan, everything.
As soon as I get off the plane, fucking army, grab me, bro.
Damn, damn, nigger, dad got an army.
He ain't that about this.
Real army.
I'm not.
The sergeant, get that motherfucker.
The army that go to war to fight type of shit.
I know.
I know what you told you.
And how was that conversation?
You just grabbed me.
I was not like, fuck.
Because I thought when he grabbed me, I thought he grabbed my pants because I was sagging.
My pants was down.
So I thought he was telling me.
But he was like, tell me, ooh, we're going to get you type shit.
Like, go step your passport.
Bro.
As soon as I stepped my passport, bro, I just walked outside.
So one of my friends.
And he had money.
One of my close friends, he had given him money and manipulated him.
Because that's the only way my dad could have gone.
me because my friend ran me out.
So I'm calling my friend like, oh, I'm landing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Not knowing that they give him money already, blah, blah, blah.
So I look at my friend as I'm coming out.
I'm like, ah, I'm late.
I'm taking my girl away from me at the hotel.
I'm taking, we going out tonight.
You feel me?
I just looked at me.
He just looked at his face like this.
You know, like, you knew how, like, I know you had disappointed in me.
I looked at, I don't say never.
I said, you sniff.
I can never forget.
I looked like him. I said, you snitched?
I just looked right. I just saw my dad.
What did your dad say?
He just ran and hugged me, like, shaking, crying.
That nigga thought he didn't know what the fuck he was doing, baby.
He thought he was on a vicious crack binge or something.
David, I did do it.
Smoking rock.
Yeah, they thinking, I'm going crazy, but I was actually chilling.
So he put me in the car.
I remember that the ride home. It's like, ah, why did I run?
I was like, but you know when, like I told you,
you know when like
you know you should have listened
type stuff
listen to you
you know what I'm saying
because he's a real busy man
you know what I'm saying
so
I would say like
he wasn't like
Did you hear them with a little bit
of the guilt
the guilt trip down?
Man he had him
Father that it's not my dream father
no
no
I was just like
we're just talking
and then we got to the crib
imagine getting to the crib
and like
it's like
I have a big family
but he's like
where did you go
so I'm just like
bro what the fuck so I go in my room
close the door
you can't lie though it felt good to be home
oh a little bit
it felt good they had a burden off your chest
he running from his pot
it felt good to stop running
I wasn't fitting
good like oh I'm home like
oh food money
it felt good to just stop running
you got people calling you
you know what I'm saying
so
then we're men to have a meeting
the next day right to figure it out
so he like
yeah so let's have to meet
So I remember I go in the room
I face some of my girl at the time
And she had the hotel
She actually told me to go through Ghana
And then drive to Nigeria
Because like it's like an eight hour drive
I'm like fuck
How was this nigga on the run
Like a fugitive
From his parents shit
That's crazy
No land in Jersey and then dry down to Philly
Because you know your pop got an army
That's crazy
But guess what
If I'd gone to Ghana
I might not be sitting here with you
because I want to have got caught
and then the story would have went
the way it went kind of.
But let me feel.
So we had the meeting the next day.
So the meeting is like, okay,
what do you want?
I said daddy, I want to do music.
I don't want to stay in the house.
I want to leave.
I'm okay.
I'm okay, I've stayed the night.
Everybody see I'm back.
I don't want to fight.
I'm good.
My head, I got 60K on me.
Like, I'm good.
He's just like, okay, just go to school.
What do you want?
I would do it.
anything you want.
So I'm like, all right.
They're talking what I like.
So what's up?
What's he going to do for him, man?
He said, I must go to school.
I said, I was thought about it.
I was like, all right, man, cool, cool.
But I want to go school in Nigeria.
So he agreed, like, cool, he can go school in Nigeria.
But then he sent me, he tried to send me to, like,
the village far away.
So I'm like, nah.
So he's like, all right.
If he
gives me money, if he builds a studio
for me, like a world-class
studio, like he's really
telling me, not all these
Robby Studios in Nigeria, I will go to
Atlanta, who will pick
the best equipment.
Flex! And that's exactly what I did.
We'll pick the world-class equipment,
anything you want. Any studio you see in America,
show me the picture. We'll build it for you.
Just go to school.
And lucky, I'd be feeling like he promised
my mom like before she passed like please make sure they go to school because my mom was a teacher
yeah in the university the same school so i'm thinking in my head i'm like he's like he's really
adamant on that school so i'm like okay i go to school cool but what's the deal you're like okay i got to go to
school so the school is like five hours drive from the city so if i go to school for two weeks
that for two weeks that weekend i can come home go back do another two weeks that weekend i could come
to the studio that he's built it.
Yeah.
Right?
So I'm like, shit.
Cool.
I'm about to go to school
for like five months.
Blow up, dip.
Like, that's what I'm thinking.
So I started going to the school.
I got enrolled in the school five hours away.
He built me the best studio in Nigeria.
I mean, like, everybody used to come there.
Whiskey, depart.
So that is when I started, like, because I had the best studio.
Right.
But think about it.
He has the best studio.
The studio is only open every two weeks
Because they're in school
So that shit's the fuck the head up
Like damn, like
So I come every two weeks to the studio
Everybody would be coming over
Coming over
And stuff like that
And funny enough
That time I was really recording my music
Like that
Like I said
I told you I was learning engineering
So I'd have people come over to the studio
And be recording, recording
So one day
I always give people ideas
Like if you're in the studio
You do a verse
or you do a hook, I'll switch it
or I'll say
I'll say, oh no, sing it this way
or do it this way
then my boy started realizing that
bro, you better than all these people
that come in?
Yeah, cool.
Right.
But me, I'm like, no, no, I'm like, bro,
I figure out to go to school.
My dad tripping, I haven't tried
to run away and do all that shit.
They were like, bro, just trying.
I was like, fuck it.
The first song I recorded
it was up.
First, not first song that, oh, hear my song.
The first song I ever had, like, took my,
obviously I've recorded, but like,
the first song that I was like,
this is going to be my song.
This is it.
Bro.
They dropped it, like, funny.
You know how you, SoundCloud?
Then we used to use, like, YouTube.
Then it was like Twitter just blew up.
So I dropped it.
And then I went to school because I had to go back.
You know, I'd do the whole.
two weeks thing.
So I did the song
it was called Back When Feature
NADO C there.
So I dropped it and then I went back to school.
So I go back to school.
And at this time, I've been
in school for like seven months.
So to be honest, I've actually kind of
gotten used to school.
The vime of one of be artists
is like, the dream
is kind of dying. I ain't going to laugh.
Like I'm already in school. I'm like,
fuck it. You know what I'm saying?
My friend just called me.
after I've been in school for like two weeks.
Say, brother.
I said, bro, what's up?
I'm tired.
I'm laying down.
I remember the series I was watching.
You watched Dexter before?
Yeah.
I was like, I'll never forget.
I was on like season six of Dexter.
I watched Dexter.
I watched all the series because I'm fucking bored.
In that place.
He just called me.
He said, brother.
I said, well, sister, I was in the club last night.
When they played your song, all the girls went crazy.
I said it's a lie
She, bullshit
I said it's a lie, Joe
Who was that, that's your brother right there?
Yeah, it's my cousin
Was he the one that called you?
Nah
What was he say?
And the rest is history
And the rest is history, huh?
So from that day
I was just like
I said, I'm sure
I said don't let me leave this school
I don't want to run away again
Yeah, I'm coming back
Yeah, because if I
If I run away this time
I'm like, it got to be, oh, you know what I'm saying?
He said, brother, I know then there was no Snapchat, you can't send you.
It's only word of mouth.
You have to, you have to, you have to see it.
I said, fuck it, I'm coming, I'm coming to you.
So I did like a fake human, you know how you do the fake human being that you can put the pillows in the bed?
Because my dad, guess what?
My dad had me sleeping in the same apartment with the principal of the school.
Oh, Lord.
Damn, yes.
He had a three-bedroom apartment
This is the principal of the school
This is my room
And this is like his son's room
Nika dad had so much money
He paid the principal
Go check him at night
Bro
That's crazy
Principal David, you in there?
I did the whole thing
From there
Dip
They start calling me again
So I'm on the way to
Lake the city like
They call me, calling me
I'm like boy
Whatever this boy said
About the song
Better be true
I've left Skulu
So Sam got to the club
To see if what he's saying
It's real
Yeah
He walked in there
When I walked in
I looked at my cousin
I was like oh fuck
Boy
So yeah we back lit
Boy
It was like a wave
My dad couldn't stop it
Was so much
The President's ringtone
Was my song
The president of the
country. He's a ringtone.
Damn. That's my song.
So from there, that's like...
So hold on. Okay, hold on. All right. So now you got the song, song pop and all the
women listening to it. They banging it.
Your dad wasn't like, I don't want to hear that shit. Go take your ass back to school.
No, yeah. He was like...
Because it takes a minute. It just don't like it come out and then it just blow.
It takes a little minute for it.
I blew up. But not like he was like... Every show I'd go to, he sent a police to
The rest, me, you booked the show, you, you paid for a table to watch the ticket to watch
the show, the fad, you too.
Everybody gone.
Damn, how many shows he done that shit till?
So they stopped booking me.
And you just kept going, you didn't give a fuck.
And then I did another record, and that record was like times three of that record.
And then from there.
Digger Dad had so much money, he locked the old club up.
They booked David, lock the club up.
That's fucking crazy.
They got 500.
Arena up.
Not the clubber.
Not the clubber.
Lock the whole fucking arena
You know how much money they take
It's a lot of money
And he probably bailed niggas out
Let them all stay for a day
Then bail everybody out
When did he break down?
Shit
Like let me do what I want to do
He said like you know what
Fuck it
Yeah it was kind of just getting peak
You know what I'm saying
We're getting big guy
And then I actually got an offer
For a contract
By this like media company
In Africa
Like this telek
It's like a team mobile
Yeah
Of Africa
of Africa.
Yeah.
How much they offer you?
How long?
Then, like, I was...
What year?
I think then, and this is just like two songs in.
How old was you?
Like, how old was, like, 17?
18, something like that.
Like $250,000.
Yeah.
So when he, because, you know me, he's a non-bos guy.
Yeah.
He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a non-bos guy.
Uh-huh.
So he hears that, okay.
So then he now calls me in as his son to start.
advising me. Okay, let's do it this way.
So he actually
arranged my stuff, registered my
company, registered my name,
you know, opening an account for me,
arranged my royalties.
Really just made sure nobody like...
He's seen that you finally in the business.
No, Papa is a fucking business
man to the top of the lot. The niggins, wait, they offer
you what? He got to be good.
Come on here, boy, let me
tell you about this business.
You know what I'm saying? You're about to get in it now,
nigga. When that happened,
You know what I'm saying?
And then, and then me just became cool.
And then he kind of finessed me into, like,
go doing like a part-time school, online stuff,
going back to school right now.
And I ended up getting a degree in 2015.
Damn.
Still got a degree through all that.
That's a blessing.
Damn.
So that shit just...
So from there, you know, that's when, that's when,
from there, that's when, like, everything just popped off.
Yeah.
So obviously, like, now, like, I'm on, you know what I'm saying?
but don't forget
I'm coming from America
so I'm blowing up in Africa
going crazy like
everything is spreading so quick
everything's happening so quick
and I'm just coming from America
so all my boys
hit me up like yo
yeah
I see you know all those
New York people are like yo
I see you
but obviously
I didn't reach them yet
but they've seen it on my page
like oh I see your moves
and obviously the dream
was always you know what I'm saying
to be able to come out here
and do the same thing
right and um so i i i'd come but obviously like there was no afro beats here at that time right
so i'd come just link up it the first person i really was like linking up with was uh was thug
yeah you know what i'm saying because i was friends as one of his partners yeah so he always
be in the studio so me and thug was like the first person like always go over there smoke with him
chill yeah they did records and from there i met i met baby when baby first came out of jail
little baby
before I did the record with him
the day
he came out of jail
I think the next day
I met a little baby
I promise you
smoking, asking
me where I'm from
you know what I'm saying
so from then
I started meeting
everybody
Migos
blah blah blah
so when they
all would come to
Nigeria
or come to Africa
the first person
they asked me
was like
yo my partner
David all out there
you know what I'm saying
so I picked them up
and then you could do
a big in Africa
oh
the first people I picked up
I remember I picked up Quaver from the airport.
Nika.
I'm my boy, you know, all of them, three of them.
This is like, and guess what?
This is like right before Bad and Boogie blew up.
Yeah.
So, like, they had their experience.
And I feel like everybody that's come to Africa is always like, they come and they blow up.
Yeah.
Same thing with, um, it happened with Migos, happened with little baby, happened with cats.
Yeah.
You know what's so crazy.
You was big.
You was understanding.
Okay, he big in Africa.
Okay, cool.
But then when they got over there and you was able to say,
I'm going to pick y'all up from the airport.
Dad, I need the Army.
You took the Army with you.
No, right now I'm the Army.
You're the Army at that time.
It's different.
Now I'm the Army.
Right.
So now you pull up, they probably like.
God.
Damn.
And it was so like, you know, like my joy is like able to pull up on them
with things they see here.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I picked up the baby in my Ventador in Lagos.
I picked up a little baby in my
in my Bentega in 2018
when the car just came out
Yeah
You know what I'm crazy
It's like, you know, I'm happy
Like
Even the reaction I see it like
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, living in both worlds
I'm just happy to see that
And I always knew
Like even when I got my deal with Sony
In 2015
It's the first time I'm signing
A contract with a major label
where I'm from
where I just used to
wake up,
drop a record,
tweet it, put it on Instagram
before I sleep and wake up
is the biggest record in the country.
You know what I'm saying?
That's where I was coming from
before I saw my deal.
So imagine, you know,
over time, like,
you know,
Afro beats really blew
internationally.
It was actually through the UK.
The UK was like the first
area to like really acknowledge
Afro beat, I can make it pretty real big
a thing. We're doing the arenas in the UK
from since. You know what I'm saying?
So from there, it kind of
moved to America.
Right. Moved to Atlanta.
Move to New York and Atlanta.
And then kind of like spread.
But I used to tell them, I was like,
this is the next sound dude.
I'm telling you, I remember,
I remember when I used to want to do
records with artists and they,
we do the song, and then
the next day they'd send my lawyer
invoices with a clearance for 350K.
Right.
man
400k
that's what a lot of artists don't understand
to a motherfucker do the record with you
take your money and everything
no just give me just give me
50,000 to do the record
now when I see them
hear me like you all to remix this
I'm like
the only artist
the only artist in this America
that I tell you facts
it's Chris Brown
that does it because he loves the arts
that's for me
child de breezy
I don't know about anybody else
and when I'm talking about
killing the record
video shoot
staying there for five hours
loving Afro beats
not only do my record
even helping other Afro beats artists
and that's like now
the genre is break
everybody trying to harp on it
but I'm saying
we have to acknowledge the people
that you know
was there in the beginning
you know
Thug hasn't really done Afrobeat
because me and Thug are more
on a friendship
level but when I'm talking about like
the African culture and people that really like
I'd say put on. I say like
you know what I'm saying like Chris
you know what I'm saying? A couple other people but
mainly him you know and I said that when I was going to do this
interview I was going to give him a big shout out
but we've worked at a lot of people do a lot of people and I'm just
happy that you know finally the genre
because I remember when you know when you're in the studio
and everybody just playing their stuff
you know how it is like play you let me hear this
And every time, like even when I used to be in the studio with them,
Thog or whoever I'm in studio with,
everybody played their song.
When I played my own,
it was always different with the Afro beats.
I always knew when I was in the dorm,
when I was playing in my dorm,
when I was playing them Peace Square and the band.
My friends that are walking past my room,
be like, yo, what's that?
I'm like, yo, this African music.
Trust me, one day, you're going to love it.
You know what I'm saying?
And then
And now
As arena's all over the world
You know what?
I want you to
name about five
Right
I need five from you
From back home
Right
Okay
That the world
Need to know about
But they don't know
About right now
I need you
I need you to say
Their names on here
Hmm
That you want the world
To know about
But they don't know
I don't want to say
Because I think a lot
Of them people know
But also wants to just say
I'd say like the five
Next five
I can say the next five
The next one.
Because I don't want to, you know, leap in a lot.
I say, Rema, he got the Calm down record.
Calm down, calm down.
I say Rema.
I say Buju.
Uh-huh.
I say Ira Star.
Uh-huh.
I say...
Victorini.
See, now this one, it gets tough
because he started looking around
the room at niggas.
Think well.
I don't want Joe, so.
Nah, nah.
Ah, okay, okay, okay.
So, okay, let's do like this.
It was Rema, Buju,
as Shakere.
Without a doubt, shocking.
No, he's gone.
Oh, good, nice.
Him and Rama.
Him and Rama.
I say they are.
They're at the top.
Who else was it?
Ira Star.
Buju there already.
Ira Star, Gruga.
Ruga.
The future Afrobeast is crazy because now it's different.
You know, before we needed a whole studio to record.
Now, you can record on your phone.
You can record on your phone.
And these boys are so good.
You know what I'm saying?
My only worries is which I feel like for me is the next phase,
especially after this album and tour that we're about to go.
I feel like this is the run that's about to change the things.
Not change things in terms of the culture,
but change things in terms of ownership of the culture.
Ownership before they grab it from us.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yes, ownership.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's really what we're working on now.
like ownership of the culture in the diaspora
in America, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
I want to be able to have an app
that agents can download
if you want to book the healthest African artists.
You know what I want to be able to have our own this,
our own debt.
I'm doing the first,
it's going to be,
possibly the first African festival
are going to be like the African culture.
you know what I'm saying
owned by an artist
you know obviously the people do other ones
owned by like Live Nation stuff
so I'm trying to do one
I'm gonna do one in Atlanta
I have a seven arena tour
in a month
seven arenas back to back
what's the name of the tour
the timeless tour
timeless tour
after the album
I think we start at D.C.
DC Chicago
Toronto
Boston
where else we go to
Houston
Houston
Yeah, Atlanta
gonna be the last stop
and then go Europe
It's crazy
Yeah
You know what?
I'm gonna challenge you right
This is what you do
Because you said you want to
But you can
You got the resources and the means
Yeah
Create this app right
But don't just create this app
To book the artists
Create this app
Throw the big boys on there
So they could book them
And all their stuff
And then put the hub and comers on there too
should they get exposure to
and it's going to go
you know what I mean
and like you said
the festivals the merch
you set up all these stuff on there
and I'm telling you
it's going to go
because there's nothing like that
out there
for half a piece
I'm telling you
one of the homies
can do it
get with a colder
set that app up
naming something
boom
definitely
definitely in the works
just not even only that
even like which
even with like music distribution
that all that
like even with the new cuts
coming up
I don't want them to make
like the same mistakes
we made, you know what I'm saying?
You know, just rushing.
And I know these days you can blow in 24 hours.
When you say mistakes, what do you mean, bad contracts?
Not only bad contracts, you know what I'm saying?
Just bad moves.
Like, you can have a bad contract before you get to your contract.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You always signing to five people before you even get to where you're meant to be.
You know what I'm saying?
I would say I sign the best contract.
You know what I'm just about to sign some crazy shit right now.
That's tangible for me.
And just because of I didn't have the knowledge.
You know what I'm saying?
Obviously, they didn't have the knowledge.
They didn't know my music was going to blow, you know, as much as this as well.
So, you know, that's all I'm trying to do.
I have a label as well that, you know, I have, you know, sign artists, also develop creatives.
Just a lot of stuff I walk in a lot.
Absolutely.
That's what it's about, man.
And what do you want the people to know about you and about the future of you before we get out of here?
No, apart from being a musician, like, obviously, like, the charitable side of me, you know, are very, very, very, especially my family, are very, very big on charity.
Yeah, yes.
Giving back to the community.
Like, I have a great, great story.
I don't know if he had, on my birthday a year or two years ago.
I wanted, like, a leather strap, Patek Philippe.
So I told my friends, I was like, um.
everybody dropped
like I have so much friends
so I'm like everybody donate to this account
I want to get the watch
you know what I'm saying
instead of spending it myself
and then
it just ended up
being a thing
you know so everybody was sending money
then I ended up tweeting my
one of the accounts I didn't use
that was like zero balance
I tweeted the account number
you should go read on after we leave you
I tweeted the account number
and all my fans
just started like donating
and this
is off just being of the goodwill I've done
over the years. So just like
everybody donating down to
even people that have 25 cents
are donating like transfers
transfers and it ended up coming up to
$600,000 in two days.
I'm going to put, well, fuck it's my birthday,
man.
See how much these niggas
love me, you hear me? You ain't got
to love me 600,000 worth
nigga, just a couple hundred thousand
But, nigger, $200,000, I'm happy.
I thought you.
I think they're meant to pick up,
because I'm going to go eat after.
So,
yeah, so it came up to $600,000, right?
Guess who calling us?
Pops.
What do you say?
Ring, ring, ring.
Hey, daddy.
Come.
You know you cannot keep that money, Abie?
Like, you're saying that,
you know, you can't keep that money.
Part of me was like, yeah,
and part of me was like,
hey, I knew he was okay.
That nigga said,
daddy, it's mine. What you mean?
They sent it to me. He was like, no,
no, no, no, no, no. God
has blessed you too much.
He was happy that, you know,
people, the fans and the country
have showed appreciation.
$600,000 for nothing in two days?
He's like, we have to give the money
to every motherless baby's
home in the country.
See, that's easy for
Pop to say when Pop got a billion dollars
and shit. Pops didn't know so much
motherfucking money.
You got to give it away
Just give it away
You're like, what?
So we had to
I'm about to buy a fad of
No, I'm about it
No, I had to kill it already
Well, I was about this location
But anyway, he made us like
We had to like send people in the field
To go look for all the
Incredible motherless baby's homes
In Nigeria
And he came to about
Ah
It's 36 states in Nigeria
Damn
Yeah
And we get
I think at least
each state, like four, five
mother-at-es-baby's homes.
It all split the $600,000 to the T,
to the zero balance.
And, you know, that's how we gave it away.
So we do that as well.
So that's something like I want to be doing
like every year.
God bless your heart, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Every year.
You're a good nigga, man.
My last birthday, I couldn't do it
because, you know, what happened
me and my wife.
But this year, we plan to do it again as well.
A lot of stuff, you know, even like with politics,
my uncle is now officially the governor.
You know, I don't know if you were on my page years ago
when I was campaigning one time.
Yeah.
I'm sure you saw it.
So he, like, four years ago, he won the election
and they switched it up and gave somebody else.
And then we ran again last year and we won.
So we have a lot of good things, you know, going for us.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit, one thing I want to do, I want to commend you
Because they had to send me 600,000
Pops would have called.
I'd have been back on the run for the fourth time.
Where's David?
I'd have been back on the run, dog, for the fourth time, man.
Crazy.
That you think I'm giving up just $600,000?
But you did a good deed, man.
Yes, he did.
It came back in a billion folks.
Yes, it did. I'm talking shit,
but I probably would have gave it away, too.
But I just know it was hard at first.
like shit
yeah
600
I was like
let me keep 200
like nope
every single dollar
you know what I'm saying
right
so shout out the pops
for
for just
having so much money
that's 600,000
oh me
shit damn
give it away
but listen man
you got the tour
coming up
timeless tour
yep yep
yo you don't understand
like
And you know the crazy thing?
The bigger the genre gets, the more you spent.
Especially with production on shows and stuff like that.
I remember when my team would come to me like, okay, we're doing a 10,000 venue, 10,000
and 5,000 venue.
All we got to do is just put the screen behind.
Oh, yeah.
Get the DJ, have the band.
Now they're giving me a bill of $300 and some thousand dollars to build.
They're bringing you in from a helicopter.
You're going to drop from the sky.
You know what I'm saying?
Insurance, blah, blah, blah.
So it's good to see as well, you know what I'm saying?
Like, even this tour we're going on.
Like, we've already started planning from a month before, like, stuff you want to build.
Just making it look good, you know what I'm saying?
Because now it's at a place where, you know, eyes is on us.
You know what I'm saying?
And like I said, ownership is very, very key.
Very.
Very.
And another thing is,
You know, when you got the light, man, you got to make sure that bitch shine as bright as possible because you never know.
You know, that she could be here today and then three years from now, that shit could be gone.
You know what I'm saying?
What do I always tell you guys?
I said sleep.
I can't sleep.
But I cannot sleep because I'm the type of, I tell me, I'm going to buy out gracefully.
I always said, I'm never going to be that, nigger.
They're going to be like, oh, damn, it's over.
Hell now.
I'm bound out on top.
Right.
Right.
I'm living on top, goddamn.
I bet you that.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm never out of the one that.
I wanted to dim.
Like, bro, like six months ago,
I wouldn't even think that I would be able to do an interview.
Right.
Do you know what I'm like,
even before what happened to me,
two years, a year ago,
I'm like,
and you know,
I would tell people this.
you can have the biggest
point of your career
you enjoy that moment
as much as you can't
because when it goes down
all you're going to be thinking about is
I remember that time
yeah
especially like with music
with mentally I tell people
I tell people that
let that success not be your
your pinpoint of being happy
yeah
because I've been at the point
where I've been the biggest
and imagine
Imagine having been, and that's the worst position
because as soon as you just want to relax more
or it's not the same or you don't get 10 minutes in a day
because you got nine, it's a problem.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So imagine being that kind of person
and I'm just, you know, grateful, so grateful.
You know what I'm saying?
Like after 12 years of killing shit,
the biggest album just came.
Yeah.
nigger just getting started after 12 years
so imagine like shit been lit
and I was telling somebody the other day
I was sitting in the group shud like patience is virtue
I could have been hitting
on who
I'm happy for I'm just happy that the genre is up
yeah but you know what though
you know what though for you
I feel like
you always going to have a sense of
of being able to make your
make your best music
because you got into this shit
because you really love it.
You was willing to say
nigger, dad, I'm not trying to hear
none of that shit.
You're a billionaire.
You got all the money.
I'm running away from home.
I just want to do music.
I don't care.
I sleep on the couch somewhere.
Yeah, I got a nice-ass house
with a bunch of armed guards outside
a big-ass balcony probably,
but I'm sleeping on the couch
because I want to do music.
You really love this shit.
It's a difference.
Some motherfuckers do this shit
because they think it's the cool shit to do.
Some motherfuckers do.
this shit because they just want to be famous
some motherfuckers do this shit because
they really love the art from this shit
like you said uh no
I'm gonna record niggas for two years
just so I can learn how to record
knicks all right now I know how to record
niggas I can record myself
all right let's go
then a motherfucker said
dog man you you be making
better sounding songs than these niggas
man you just don't never record them but
in here you tell them niggas what to do you need
to do it part of you
had to be like, you know what,
all right, fuck it, let's do it.
If a part of you ain't got that fuck it in you,
then you never do it.
No, man, this shit ain't for me, man.
I'm just going to be an engineer
for the rest of my life, man.
I'm telling you.
I say, the best feeling,
and this one I felt,
the best feeling is when everybody
just thought it was over.
And it just gets so lit.
I know you know what I'm talking.
Nick, I know when you saw a lot.
Shit.
The niggas thought I'd be doing security at Ross right now.
You guys don't understand.
Shit.
When I was, see, when we were in Dubai, and I saw one white girl tear a shit on Avileu person.
I said, God, you got me.
But we thought, like, we thought there's the, cannot get bigger.
No, because they talk to that day, say, how?
How do it?
Brother.
Chabay.
Right.
So it's like, I'm grateful to God.
Like, with everything that just happened, it's just like.
But I haven't been thinking I'll be sitting here talking to you, but, you know what I'm saying?
It's brought some type of healing, you know what I'm saying?
For me and my wife, just, you know what I'm saying, musically.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just grateful to be here and then do it again.
And also, I know how many people have inspired that are probably going to, like, the same thing we're going through.
Absolutely.
So I know how many people, you can't even tell me, because, like, even in my DMs,
somebody wrote in the other day
that after seven years
after seven years of losing her child
she's just getting up after I dropped timeless album
she said somebody can lose their child
and record this type of album
and have energy
she got up, took a shower, did her hair
like show me the whole story
like her and she'd been on the bed for seven years
you know what I'm saying
and when the album dropped
she's like
for somebody to be able to do this in,
you know what I'm saying?
And for me,
I look myself in the mirror.
I miss him every day.
A tear comes out of my eyes every morning.
Nobody, you don't have to see it.
Right.
But I looked at myself in the mirror
and I said, bro,
apart from me,
just being about me,
I know how many people would love me.
I know people are depending on me.
My son up there is looking down like,
he wouldn't want me to be like,
apart from me being strong for his mom
you gotta hold it down
which is my
primary
responsibility
but have to be strong
for the world
and you know I'm saying
I'm just happy
that you know a lot of people
thought you know the album
we're going to drop the album
we're just going to be a lot of like
sad
and we gave them bangers on bangers
my son is dancing and my mom
is dancing in heaven
yes that's what I'm talking about
rest and peace to them both of them
so for four
for people to see that
it's possible
not that I wish it on anybody
I would even wish it on my enemy
do you understand
but to be able to
stand up again
and be able to work man
it's only God
can't tell me
it's only God
so you know
those are one of the things that
you know me and my wife
like you know God it's a real boy
and then everything
everything just aligned back bro
like
we perform him better
Like, you know, we're in the gym, we're eating better.
You know what I'm saying?
Business is better.
Right.
You know, obviously, like, well, God is really rude to never give up.
Because even though, a lot of times, even though you lose something, you know, when you go through the pain, you go through that hurt, it also put a sense of focus on you.
Of course.
You know that nothing is fucking promised out here, man.
Nobody has promised tomorrow.
So even if you're not thinking like that subconsciously
What you just want through
You understand that
None of us here is promised tomorrow
So I got to get this shit
The other day my boy was speeding
I said what I say I said slow
Why are you rushing to?
Chebert will go to the restaurant
What's the time?
Right. It's ate something
Why are you washing to?
Right
Bro, you don't understand
I'm walking like
Yeah
Before it's walk
I have a living life
Just enjoying life, you know what I'm saying?
You walk in light, baby.
This oxygen, even just waking up and just, just sleeping and just waking up.
It's a gift.
I hear stories all the time.
People sleep, don't wake up.
They'll do autopsy.
Nothing.
No cancer, no sickness, no nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
So just to wake up is a gift, understand that.
But, man, we appreciate you for pulling up on us, man.
We appreciate you.
Like, even, like I said, like both of you,
watching you guys since before the show.
You know what I'm saying?
Even like when you were inside,
when you just got out, I remember that video,
when you and your wife just fucking around on the bed,
my wife, send me the shit off.
I mean, it was just amazing to see
what you guys have,
it's crazy.
And imagine how many people you guys have inspired as well.
You know what I'm saying?
And I really, really want that Lagos trip
to happen.
Yes.
You know,
I do a festival
my assistant
working out.
I do a festival
every December
in Lagos.
It's very, very important
for you.
We come out.
You guys have come out there
and, you know,
you know,
you know, I'm saying,
fuck with it.
You know, a lot of artists.
Not only interview artists,
interview, you know,
African legends,
but we're politicians.
Interview artists.
There's this guy that,
you know, Felakuti?
Yes.
The guy that made all
Felakuti's albums,
all his,
album arts walks
and you've never been to Africa
I'm gonna make it happen
I'm making it happen
by making it up on December
December
We're in Africa baby
We gotta do it
And it's just like that
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