Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - JOE BUDDEN: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 234

Episode Date: August 20, 2023

In honor of the 50th year of Hip Hop we brought two 50 year old Hip Hop dinosaurs together for the podcast of a lifetime. The OG Hip Hop podcaster, Joe Budden, came to clear the air and no topics were... off limits including sponsor money, Charlamagne beef, and Gillie's bedroom window. Although the point of this convo was to make amends, somehow it resulted in an agreement to do a celebrity boxing match. We'll see you in the ring, Joe.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon music. Right. Now, this is a special moment in history, right? Yes. It's the 50 of your era of hip-hop. I got two hip-hop dinosaurs here.
Starting point is 00:00:18 These guys are in the game. They're music. Some of you guys will have to Google them. They're doing print magazines, rap pages. Yo, rap. They're in some pages and magazines. These dudes is legends and dinosaur in hip-hop. and today we got to honor them for being hip-hop dinosaurs of their museums.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I'll take it. They're museums. They're part of the artifacts of hip-hop. These two dudes, listen, man, this is back when, you know, it was just vinyl. This before tape cassettes, these guys was rapping. If you think about, like, rappers at a lot, hip-hop, they came right after that. We're talking about 84. The fuck.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You know, it was in jail for all of it anyway. The fuck is you speaking on it for. These two dudes. Why are you doing a 50-year hip-hip anything? He was gone for half a year and see shit. None ass niggas, niggins. What came in third place in the fucking hip-hop talent show
Starting point is 00:01:02 every three years in a row to fuck out of it. I want to say this to the young guys. You young hip-hopers, y'all making a bag. Once we did an extensive, how can I say, a forensic financial investigation,
Starting point is 00:01:15 Gilly made $3,700 in hip-hop and Joe Buns made $77,000 in their whole career doing their hip-hop legacy. You guys are winning. Be thankful for it. If it wasn't for these guys getting burnt,
Starting point is 00:01:27 raked all the type, they lost, they published, They lost everything. Speak to it. They lost their publishing. Speak to it. Wait, who burnt and raped you?
Starting point is 00:01:35 Who burnt and raped you? I had a bunch of bad deals in my career. Damn. I'm not going to say burnt and raped. I don't call it that. There were bad deals. But you got to, I'm high, I want him to keep highlighting all of that
Starting point is 00:01:49 so you can highlight the transition part. Yeah, the transition. But because, because was it, could you say, was it lawyering? Was it the lawyers? or was it just the people throwing you bad deals and lawyers?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Well, you signed with Clue, didn't you? No, I was never signed with Clue. Oh, damn. I was never signed with Clue. I thought out the Clue and death was doing. Why the fuck I always thought you and Joe Buttons? I mean, you and our Frabb was with Clue.
Starting point is 00:02:12 No, Fab was with Clue. I was signed to Web and Nitty who was with Clue for all intents of purposes. And Web and Nitty, they gave you a bad fucking deal. No, they gave me a production deal, but you're taking a production deal into death jam.
Starting point is 00:02:27 now. Okay. So the deal ain't what it's supposed to be. Then you go do a pub deal that I just got out of my pub deal maybe four years ago. I sat at all time my podcast. Like that was how long I was locked into that situation. They didn't acknowledge independent projects.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like you wasn't, that didn't count against nothing. EPs didn't count against nothing. Like this is a whole different time to win right now today. So you mean to tell me so the production deal is where you sign to somebody and then they take you, they own you basically. And they take you to a label, get the and it's percentages they don't own you but it's but it's 50 50 you acknowledge the part that
Starting point is 00:03:02 they will do as a production company it's not just a artist on it to a label so it's their job to groom and develop would you recommend somebody doing that like say if say if you grabbed the artist right now would you do a 50 50 would down I wouldn't grab artists because they're headaches I'm not I'm not looking to do that all the artists are we speak it we cycle the artist is psycho so I'm not doing it hypothetically and we don't have to do that because that's what they're doing that's what they're doing that Yeah. There's a lot of people that are in production agreements.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And then later on, you see the fight between them and that company. So if you come across the next. Well, no, because what happens is the artists go blow up, right? And then now you turn around and say, hey, dog, you ain't really do too much. I'm him now. So let's change that split. That's how that's going. Yeah, that's real.
Starting point is 00:03:50 That's fucking real. So at the end of the day, you signed a lengthy publishing deal. Yeah, I didn't know it was so long. lengthy. I didn't know that they had all the options. I didn't know it ran so long, but I didn't know anything. I didn't have proper representation most of my career. I didn't have a lawyer that was advising in my best interest. Like, you miss, I missed some of the steps in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Like, so once you start getting fucked, then you just end the system of getting fucked. Now, now, when did you get? Because I seen you got with the, I seen you got with your brother Ortiz and all of them. You've been, come on, plenty of time. You ain't been in jail and you went through the road. You never got fucked. In my life, fuck is y'all in here talking about. Fuck, no.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So you best, you wait to, you was a bummed up and been for them. I never got a fuck, period. You never got them wrong in the contract. No, you're full of shit. Bro, my first contract was with Tony Draper. This episode of million dollars worth a game is brought to you by body armor. From sports drinks to sports water, body armor keeps us hydrated all day long. whether we're talking, watching, or even playing sports,
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Starting point is 00:06:29 fucking, I want the cash money. What'd you talk about? I had got 200,000 thousand dollars. When I signed with motherfucking Warner Brothers, what'd you talk about? We was the hottest motherfucking group in the fucking world. The fuck you talk about. I got, when I signed with Koch for a single deal, fuck you talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Who was the hottest group in the world? Major fucking figures. Because you agree to that. Fuck you talk about. Everybody, every group, every fucking, every fucking record label on the fucking world was trying to sign us, nigga. No, I'm telling me what you're talking in the world of it? I ain't got to fucking tell y'all what years is it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I don't remember, I don't remember. I remember. I don't remember this part. I'm talking about unsigned, bro. They was already on. Oh, fuck you're talking about, bro. He's talking late 90s. He's talking about late 90s.
Starting point is 00:07:15 99, nigger. 98, 2000. Okay, but you usher it in, but you would cash money. so even still so even i never got no fucking bad deals fuck you're talking about my representation always been fucking right so if you're not to get a bad then what happened what happened why you were doing shows at bars why you were you talking about why you were doing shows in bars
Starting point is 00:07:36 because you just said some crazy shit hold on what happened was I never got the opportunity to put an album out on cash money because I knew what the fuck I was doing I was selling my publishing okay Tony Draper went through a situation with universal and he lost his motherfucking distribution, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Well, whatever happened he got out of his distribution. Okay. I left there and went to cash money, bro. Fuck as you talk about,
Starting point is 00:08:03 I left there and want the cotch. I've been independent, niggas since then. I've had a job, nigga. Fuck you're talking about I don't have
Starting point is 00:08:10 Jaguars, Benz's, a fucking name. Cause, so fuck, wait, wait, wait, hold on, I'm talking now.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, you didn't make a rap. Hold on. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I'm going to, so when you came home, right, I wasn't living bad. This is from rap. This wasn't from the podcast wasn't out yet. Was my house right next to another fucking house when you came home? No, can I see this? Oh, no, no, no, no, nigger, answer the fucking question. Can I see this? Was my motherfucking house right next to another motherfucking house when you came home in 2017,
Starting point is 00:08:44 niggas, all right, listen. Fuck you're talking about. You had some of these days. White, suburban, picket fence around my fucking shit When you came fucking home, nigga Off a rat, nigger. Hold on. Off an independent rack, nigga. So all God was doing was transitioning to me To get to the point where he wanted to really let me win.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Can I see this? Sometimes you don't win when you want to win, nigga. It's obvious I got the motherfucking talent because Jay-Z tried to sign me. 50 cent tried to sign me. Tony Draper gave me some money. cash money gave me some money Koch gave me some money Warner Brothers gave me some
Starting point is 00:09:24 motherfucking money Then I partnered up with Tom Bahali He gave me some motherfucking money So one thing So if we don't know one thing We know one thing I'm a motherfucking close A nigger
Starting point is 00:09:35 Put me it in the knife in a nigger And I'm gonna get it done The fuck is y'all in here talking about Let me say something Now I'm gonna tell you like this Joe still ain't got good fucking representation. He needs to let me fucking be his representation. Fuck you
Starting point is 00:09:50 wrong with you. Let me tell you someone. As soon as you get done with your motherfucking deal, Joe, I'm fucking, I'm representing you. What do you? He got no deal. He got his own shit. Oh, so you're free right now? I'm going to always be free. Oh, no, the fuck yeah. I'm going to go get you. I'm going to try it that shit. That's his party right there. We're going to go get the 99 million. We don't want to
Starting point is 00:10:11 fucking hear that shit. Let me ask you a question. Why do you can't get the 99? No, no. Because it's going to take two motherfucking long. Get it that way. If you can get it fast. I got to ask you a slow money and fast. What did Spotify offer you? You say, fuck now.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Y'all doing me dirty. And did they let you see the books? Now they didn't let me see no fuck. I knew. I knew who was going to say me. And they try to play you. I'm not going to say that. They protected their books.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm not going to say they tried to play me. They gave me what they offered what they felt was fair in the market. They watched me for two years. they had exclusive rights and they made an offer then that I wasn't going to take. At the time at the time was I a little hurt
Starting point is 00:10:53 by the offer? Yeah. Yeah. But in hindsight, they... Because you knew you was worth more than a little funky-ass $8 million.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Like, so how the fire was playing with it? But it was, it was the money combined with the asks and the rights. They asked you for everything. They wanted more than I was willing to give.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Damn. So, so now you're doing your thing. And, you know, and we talks about, like, a lot of these people... I got to watch how I'll talk to your podcasts. Listen, everybody... No, no, that's cool. We're not talking about rap no more. I got to watch you.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I got to watch this, d'ning. Hold on. Hold up. Me and you had a, me and you had a conversation. And we said this, Joe, we talked to act joint. It's two type of things because a lot of people out here, you know, everybody think they could just plug up a mic and I'm going. I'm going to be Joe Bunn's.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I'm going to be drink champs. I'm going to be Gilling Wild. I'm going to be this person. I'm going to be whatever. And they don't understand. nobody understand how to get the money. Subscription, we talked about, ad sales. It's two different type of ways.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Even within the subscription, you still got ways that you do other partnerships, you know. Is it money in podcasting to, if I'm a student and I'm asking, if they want to know from jail? Yeah. And the answer is yeah. What is the revenue streams?
Starting point is 00:12:10 What do you mean? Like, what's the multiple revenue streams in podcasting? It's description. it's subscriptions there's ads there's the integrations there's touring there's there's different there's all types of different languages you could put for watches it's production budgets there's all types of shit do you ever think you would have been making this do you ever think if you got the the right shot when you was doing music you would ever reach that's high
Starting point is 00:12:36 of a level uh yeah but i was doing media really i'm talking about music but i was do i did media back then. So, I mean, in 2004, when I did the morning show at 997, I thought, okay, I want to circle back to this. That was fun. That was fun. And it was a good check, but it was fun. I didn't know that this would be the medium, like it would turn into podcast thing, but I knew I wanted to get back to talking to people after rap. All right. So now you got your own network. You're doing your thing. You're on all of this, which is great because there's an avenue that's open for everybody. Everybody don't understand When somebody that looked like you
Starting point is 00:13:13 Open the door You can also walk through a door That's similar to that In a different way You know we had the conversation Before we talked about that That's true Now when you see it
Starting point is 00:13:24 Because we see I see you did the network I see you had different people At one time It was different shows Karen It was different Where is it going at
Starting point is 00:13:30 Shout out to Karen Shout to Karen Shout to Karen said one of them Where is it going at? What? Like where is you taking it To the next level Because you obviously it's real
Starting point is 00:13:37 I just fucking told you When he took it to the next level I'm about to take it from you. You're talking about man, man, my Caucasian good. See, you got to, you don't need to talk to the niggas. I looked at the Caucasian. He said,
Starting point is 00:13:50 Oh, are we got either? We already know. I ain't talking to you, niggas. I look right at the Caucasian now. I said, nigga, you can get the 99 now. He said. Oh, damn. Ian flip, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Look, look. Listen, and even the nigger that was behind the white man said. They're the business folks right there. They're the business folks. Why are you? They're talking subscriptions. Subscriptions.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Subscriptions. We fucking with these subscriptions. We're going to need prescriptions. The fucking Zadis. I'm going to say this, though. To get fucking hard and get by. I love this conversation. Fuck all that.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Get this fucking beef making now. Nobody really haven't. I'm going to represent. Me and Walo are going to go represent y'all. Look, listen, we don't want to sign no papers. We just going to bring the motherfuck of deal back. Listen, Joe. They want three years.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And Joe, I can't even tell you this shit out loud, all right? I can't, listen, I'm going to type this motherfucker number in the phone and I'm going to turn the phone to you, nigga. Subscriptions is going to get you on prescriptions. Drugs, nigga. Don't take the long way, take the short way, Joey. Bam! He ain't going to say, Corey, don't even tell you that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:15:06 He ain't going to say, he's going to say, you know, Joe. No, I still want to take the subscription I'm gonna say fuck is you talking about me You hit me like that again I'm gonna fuck you up You try to get your shit off You try to get your shit off you fucking nut I needed that while I hold you that
Starting point is 00:15:20 I got you He ain't gonna slap this shit out of him Now Joe, now on the other side What is it that? Oh man You know by you being hip hop dude I'm a real hip hop pig You're not fucking real hip hop
Starting point is 00:15:32 Stop saying that shit Fuck you mean man everybody Because you know a bunch of old rappers Cairas one just fucking DM me I said the fuck up No He told me to come to the block party. You don't just tell you.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You think Carras, one, just telling a nigga to come to the block party. No disrespect. I'll let you care as one. No, the shit out of you. You'd have sent me a fucking flyer to a fucking block party. He said to me.
Starting point is 00:15:52 He didn't send it to everybody. I'm just saying, but if you did it. No, I can't even. Oh, it's coming up. If you were to send me a flyer to a fucking block party, I'd have been fucking highly offended, especially if you don't even follow me. You don't even fucking follow me.
Starting point is 00:16:06 So that means you type my name. Hold on. So that means you type my name. Why are you looking at me like that, Joe? Why are you just trying to play me like that? Because that means. I'm just saying that's easy a fucking legend. See it.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Type this name in. Seeing that motherfucking follow. Now, I ain't following a nigger. Message. Come to the block party, nigga. I ain't going to say it like that, though. Oh, no, fuck that. I ain't going to say it's like that.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Don't even do that. Now, Joe, how do you feel about yesterday's rapping the day where? You know how you feel. No, listen. Just shut the fuck up for a woman. What's yesterday? This episode of me and I was, game is brought to you by New Hampshire Damn Vaca. Now, uh, life ain't going your way.
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Starting point is 00:17:31 I couldn't get enough day. New Amsterdam Vaca, the official Vaca, bars through sports right yesterday is when y'all was rapping when y'all was doing beatbox on your chest when your gill was rapping that diggers is rude no y'all y'all y'all was a little you know y'all y'all about 20 years ago when y'all was hot set the fuck no but i'm saying i like the rapping back then i like rap that they do though i like who do you like right now don't lie that's not rap rap that's not rap rap i like ral 49 okay i like him a lot I got Fabio Bias.
Starting point is 00:18:11 That's my man. I like him a lot. There's a few rappers that I like a lot. Niggas said two niggas out the whole coach. I know you like Simba. I know you like LeBrus. Simba's cool. Reason is cool.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I like the young niggers. I like the young niggers that I'm not just focused on the rap. Like, y'all are brands. Y'all are businesses now. Okay. So the days of me just judging you on your rap skill and your rap ability, I don't really give a fuck about all of that today.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I give a fuck about how you're moving who you're dealing with. How you're talking to people? Like the young niggas with like a, like a vent staples, like that? Yeah. The niggas that's going to go on to the labels with questions. The niggas that's going to look at all of these podcasts and information
Starting point is 00:18:57 sources. Take it, retain it, and go do something with it. Make it applicable. I'm a fan of those people. Okay. Now. See, that's too fucking deep, but y'all diggers it's too fucking deep, man. We just talked about put the fucking music and listen to who the fuck you like, man.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I don't get fucking who they talk to. You're smoking some bad way. Yeah, I don't care about all that. I don't care about all that before I know. You don't? I don't. Because you can be the nicest nigga in the world, then what?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Then what? What? What happens? What do you get? It's a trick. It's by design. It's like when they give you a plaque, he's a hundred million on Spotify here.
Starting point is 00:19:34 That's why you gotta have basically, you got to have basically you saying, motherfucker out they had their infrastructure together in their team. You're more focused on the team behind the artists. And I tell artists a lot of time. Labels don't sign artists, they sign teams. A lot of times because they need the babysitter. Like, I'm not going to babysit this, Nick.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Well, the good artists are teams and have teams. Right. Like, the niggas that's just moving on their own, like, you can normally tell that when you look at the product. But the people that have the teams, yeah, help, trusted hands. Niggas that wear hats. Yeah, those guys. Yeah. Now, when I first saw you, Joe,
Starting point is 00:20:08 outside of Pump Pump was a great song Big, that was an unbelievable song. That was one of my favorite. Pump, punk, man. There you go. He was singing in jail. He was singing in jail. See, you know, see,
Starting point is 00:20:18 he was going to kill me. Now he would have killed me. Yeah, yeah, he had his little radio. But I'm going to keep it all way real. He was singing a little different in jail, though. I wasn't saying, yeah, he was like, pump, pump, pump, pump me up. The fuck out of that. How do y'all do this all, man.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You're nut-ass nigg. No, Sally was Ricky Minaj. So this is the whole twist. So now, so now. Yeah, too silly. Ricky Menide. So now, let me ask you a question, Joe. How much you was getting paid the most at the show?
Starting point is 00:20:44 In my rap career? Yeah. Maybe 10 grand. Damn, that ain't bad. Now, after that I've seen you on, loving hip hop to hope. Was they doing nice paychecks or was that shit like? Which time?
Starting point is 00:20:55 From the beginning. No. No, you started on YouTube. What's you doing your own shit on YouTube? Hey, come on, man. You read your little press, publicist, little paper. I had a cell phone.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I had a cell phone in jail. First of all, let me just say this. I got caught over the cell phone. Back then, it didn't even matter what they was paying. He was Joey Savage back then. Joey Yeo back then, baby. The first time, no. I didn't matter what the fuck they was paying.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Fuck you be, Julian. Another break. Yeah, why are you spreading these rumors? He lied. Don't do that. You're lying on you. Stop. You're lying on.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But the whole twist is like this. So, but I'm saying, like, was it good money was it like not the first time but the second time was you able to get the bag i'd say so because you seen the house upgrade i've seen it yeah you so you was able to not i've seen the house upgrade nigger fuck wrong with you in the line of notes first first episode he was i'm barely making it second episode he was bitch and shut up i got this you should over there yeah oh yeah they gave him to me was you in a line of notes was you in the credits did you start asking for like not the first time
Starting point is 00:22:05 I'm talking about the second time. Would you like, yo, can I get some EP? Oh, yeah. Mnona was like, Joe, if you don't get the fuck out of it? No, I'm old as fan. Was you in the credit, the nigga? Yes. You was?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. They gave you executive producing credits? I started being an executive producer or anything I touched. Damn. So you was getting a real bag off that shit? From 2018 on, I was, I was EP in. Well, let me just take this. Don't do this.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Well, don't do this well-fucking show. To be somebody else. Oh, executive produced, me and I was like, hey, you fucking, right? Hey, think I bought an executive produced. Don't be doing it. We're telling those niggas that shit, man. No. All right, now, now, okay, now the pivot.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Now, when did it really start when you said, you know, you was doing the shows? I mean, when did you say, I'm jumping up in this? Does somebody give you the game about this podcast shit or whatever? Or was you just like, I'm just doing it from off of seeing what I'm seeing out going on? Tagstone gave him the game. You know, that's your fucking. Don't make me get animated in here.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Don't get animated, nigga. I'm trying to give you a nice cool podcast. I don't know what I'm going to fucking nice cool podcast. I don't know what I'm over here like your fake. I'm trying to be. I'm trying to be. You know what, first of all. Who gave you the game?
Starting point is 00:23:09 Who gave you the game? He's not to get me mad. No, no. Joe Bud's here. He's still chill. No, he just asked you this question. I'm trying to hear this shit.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I'm trying to hear this shit. I'm trying to hear this shit. Shout out. Shout out to all the podcasters. Who gave you the game though? Rest in peace. The tax tone, nigga. Everybody did it, though.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Oh, so he said anybody. You kidding. Everybody that was trying to maneuver in the space. I mean, it started with combat, Jack, for me. Yeah, everybody, yeah, combat was a legend. Him and Pete is probably at the top of the start of where that list starts. It did text, though. Pete, Juan.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Well, no, why you name him, you keep your name in workers. That's why we can't have the right conversation. You keep naming workers. What do you mean workers? I'm not a worker. No, I said text don't give you some game on a podcast. He couldn't give me the game I was looking for because he was a worker. I was talking to the people running the network.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Who was running the network? Carmack Jack. Oh, Comback, Joe. And his partner. So when did you say, I'm going to get me a laptop and a mic and go in? And who gave you that? You said, Comback, Jack, people, and all I gave you that. When did you say?
Starting point is 00:24:13 They gave me a lot of helpful advice. But again, remember, I was doing radio in 2004. So I always wanted to get back to that. So in 2011, I was on the laptop recording my voice by myself and uploading it. I didn't know what I was doing, but I was practicing. I was fine-tuning. We didn't start our podcast until 2015. The framework for that maybe started in 2013, 2014, right?
Starting point is 00:24:38 By just chopping it up with slaughterhouse and having conversations that was like you couldn't have publicly. Like we was having who's the best rapper talks, like real ones and putting real numbers by us. Like then, if only niggas can hear this. And that's where that came from. So I went and talked to Pete. Pete, Juan Epstein, hey, help me. And that was my star. And I'm going to go back to that.
Starting point is 00:25:01 What do you mean putting numbers behind who was the best rapper? we were doing you know everybody does like top five top 10 we were doing a top 50 like we were really assigning people to numbers who was number one i can't tell damn i can't tell you all right so and it was in groups it was in tears like it was one through 10 then it was so if you could bring somebody back right now who would you bring back big of your two pop who would i why can't i bring both i'm back no one one jo come on man one who you bring it back right now? Does Park have kids?
Starting point is 00:25:36 No, right? So you're going to bring Biggie back? That was a politically correct answer. Okay. Now. I'm bringing back the parent. Okay. Say no more.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So. That fucks me up when I'm looking at. Okay. Say no more. Yeah. I know CJ too. So, all right. Now, and I was just talking about musically.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I wasn't talking about it. I didn't even think on that level, but you got me. Oh, I keep telling you, my focus ain't the music, really. I think, I did what you're saying. It ain't the music. They both great. There's too many niggas that's great. everybody's great all right now when you so you grabbed that when did you start making money
Starting point is 00:26:07 off of podcasting Spotify all right oh that was the first time so even that was the first like check they gave you like before then you ain't had no ads and that you wasn't there was no real money in podcasting okay there were there were ad deals that came with a ceiling and so all right so everybody took those so we give credit right now man you cracked them all fucking cool yes you You helped, well, I ain't going to say, just you by yourself, but you was one of the dickens that helped crack the code. No, you was the first one that had the deal. They had a deal of that magnitude.
Starting point is 00:26:39 At the time, yeah. Nobody was doing those deals. Nobody was doing them type of deal. No, so they came to me, and they came to Amy Schumer. Yeah, okay, I knew. And Amy Schumer was where the money was. And we'll just see what he does. And that was the start of it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 We took off. Was that the only, was that the only, The only people that came at you with a deal? There weren't people doing deal. We had another deal with, I don't want to see it. That was, shout out to Luminary. That was a good. Luminary, yeah, they out there.
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Starting point is 00:30:21 holly at Walmart and walmart.com so you could be straight talking right I didn't believe in where the subscription model stood at that time I wanted the marketability
Starting point is 00:30:36 and the visibility of the Spotify partnership before I thought about subscription see let me just say something though you'd be wanting all the abilities I want the marketability the visibility the invincibility
Starting point is 00:30:50 at times timing timing timing today i don't we don't really rely on visibility at all but me ian went the papability no he's in a long game too you're on the day to we're in a long game because he's in a long game because too many people see the top number at the top of the paper and ignore all the language underneath and because we never had shit because of where we come from we look at that big number and say i'm in well that's mom's niggas we still i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not wired like that but even in ownership, there's language attached to ownership
Starting point is 00:31:25 that will strip you of ownership rights. That's why you got to get you a fucking lawyer. Tell them, don't tell me. Listen, the whole thing is this. As a podcaster, you just got to know what you in it for and what you personally in it for. And what game you want to play. And I thank you. Like, there's too many.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I think I fucking thank you for opening the doors. Niggas like you. You walk so we can run. Because Spotify don't office a deal if he wasn't there. If, if, if, if, if, you know, if, you know, if, you know, just imagine if these two niggas were selly in jail.
Starting point is 00:31:57 No, no, no, these two niggas and sellies in jail? Why you don't relate everything to jail? Because he, he, he, I don't have had this thing of making Chi-Chi as fuck as you talk about. Listen, if these two niggas were selling in jail, man, make the beds, man. You don't want to be bigger beds, man. You don't have been bigger beds, man. I might have shoved you through themselves.
Starting point is 00:32:13 You crazy shit, I'd understand you to my fucking all got tired of time. You would never able to sleep again. You would have a 40 pounds. No, I would. 160 and my hands is deadly. You wouldn't have run no cell. My fucking hands is deadly. Oh, so this.
Starting point is 00:32:26 What is you serious? I'm gonna say this though. My hands is, and we could do it. We could do it. You'd have been putting in a box. You like one, you like eight, you like one 90. 225.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You would have. Let's do us a celebrity best. Let's do a celebrity boxing match. Me and you. How much? We can get the money. Oh, Ann, come on. Let's get the sponsors.
Starting point is 00:32:42 We get the deck together. Me and I don't you're going to get the deck together. Now you're going to wait. We're getting the deck to get. How much? How much? How much are we doing it for? I'm about peace.
Starting point is 00:32:51 No, but I'm saying we're saying you're saying how much. But you don't say how much? You can talk about a window in my bedroom, nigga. We're doing a celebrity boxing match, I'm about, fuck wrong with you. I'm open, I'm going to put, I'm going to tent the windows on your fucking face now. You're talking about the window.
Starting point is 00:33:06 How much you want? We're going to get with our, I'm going to call Al Heyman. I'm calling you later. Absolutely. A lot of people can't call out. You already agree to it. I don't know, I'm a dead fucking serious. I know, it is.
Starting point is 00:33:18 The fucking stupid. We call it. We fight right before Jake Paul of the white boys. Listen, I'm letting you know. Because you talk about that. Anybody, listen, honey, why we got to take a bit of, open up, uh, Jake Paul? What are you talking about? No, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:31 We got a whole shit. Hey, when you talk to me, we got a whole shit. We got a whole shit. We got a whole shit. Listen. You think I'm training to go open up a Jake Paul? A hundred thousand. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Listen, hold on. Listen. You think that. Because I already know how this is going to go. I'm going to go train. I'm going to go spar for two months. I'm going to beat the fucking leather off of you. I'm going to fold you up.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm telling you something. Do you think... How much you knickers they want? So we didn't have a head of the business. I was trying to get to get this. I want to do this in front of... Let me get this money. 300,000?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Or do I want to do this in front of $1.3 million? Well, I can get some little backing money on that motherfucker pay-per-view. How much you think our pay-per-view would do if we own, if we actually owned the paper real and retained all of the information that came through. How much you think?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Not Jake Paul, just me and you fighting. How much you think that baby? I see any way of between how many paper you sell? 150 and 250. That's all you're all going to sell? Dog, you know how hard it is to sell
Starting point is 00:34:35 fucking 99 fight? How much are we selling the fight for? How much is the fight? That ain't never they've never seen fight? Let's figure it out. How much is the fight? Hold up. Wait, 75.99.
Starting point is 00:34:44 There's not people fighting right now. They ain't never seen fight. Yeah. And them niggas is doing. 2,000 streams Not fucking pay-per-view Pots How much we sell on our fight for?
Starting point is 00:34:53 7.59, nigga. No, I think $100. Okay, let me put it to this way. 11 million. Right. Okay, let's try it this way. 11 million. Before your name gets into the pot, the Joe Budden boxing fight
Starting point is 00:35:07 against a ghost is doing more than $250,000. You're confusing me with that man. Joe, nobody never seen you fucking fight. It don't matter. It doesn't matter It's the people that's going to buy All right
Starting point is 00:35:20 Let's set it up How much I'm trying to do this in front of 1.3 million Listen how much are we first in We had us in With Jake Paul or Logan Paul He fights somebody else too We're doing 1.4 million
Starting point is 00:35:32 Now we go down to history We don't broke a paper few fucking racket We're the co-main event We ain't just under them niggas It's event in Co-Maine Sometimes you call We're saying co-Maint now You think I said to go ahead
Starting point is 00:35:43 Listen wait hold you think I know had a The main attest of my shit. Brands? Always got the main attest of my shit. I got 10 spots. I got 10 spots for these guys' shorts. Get with me, send the emails over. We're going to, you know, if you want to buy ad space on their shorts.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You know what I'm putting? If you want to put ad space on their shorts in second. Already, let's check the motherfucking mouth. God, we ain't doing those subscription base over. I will say this. I will say this. We ain't doing subscription base on shorts. Let's hold up.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Hold up. Hold up. And I will have a removable tattoo logo on. on their back. So if you want your logo on their back, he'll do it too. Listen, listen, I'm telling you, both of dudes. You're fucking right. Fuck wrong with you. Both of the the fight is coming. I'll do it too.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Call me. Call me. Car on me. Now I wouldn't. I'm telling you. I don't. I don't. You fucking would. Listen, if we came in there and said Joe, how much would you be told on? Hold on. If we came in there and said Joe, don't try to get it. Corse light got one point two million a night
Starting point is 00:36:41 for you to put a fake ass course like tattoo on your back in Hennel. You You'd be right in the motherfucking dress room an hour before. Gilly. It's just so he could come up. You'd be right there hour before and motherfucker, motherfucker, Ian, be right there getting that motherfucker check. Gilly. What is he talking about?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Why wouldn't you get the money? Gilly. Gilly. No, I would not. What you mean? Are you fucking, that sounds like a nightmare what you're describing. No, the fuck, I'm not putting a Budweiser hinnett tattoo on my back for $1.2 million. Are you nuts?
Starting point is 00:37:13 Fucker, I would. Yeah, I thought Hennett was. talking about for fucking dog their fight is going to last four and a half minutes you're going to fuck to sleep you just got $1.2 million for four minutes. I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:27 eight minutes to walk to the ring fuck you're talking about let's negotiate 1.5 you're cool you're going to sleep soon as you're the joint bam they get to see all on you you laying on your face your back core's right they're happy
Starting point is 00:37:41 they happy if these are the numbers that you're taking If you're down with taking one point-dollar No, I got eight of them I got eight sponsors though I clear 8.6 And you go get the ad money
Starting point is 00:37:53 Go put all that shit on your shorts Fuck wrong with you I'll have the back I came in there Beat you up in four minutes Got 8.6 million That ain't got nothing to do With my check
Starting point is 00:38:01 For me actually getting paid It has nothing to do With the paper view buys And ain't got nothing to do Am I going to listen to you Pretend to know how to fight All right That's the only reason
Starting point is 00:38:11 That I'm going to listen to this It's because we're in here I love this All right Now back to what I was saying Why wouldn't y'all take the money There you go Yeah tell me
Starting point is 00:38:23 There you go break it down Break it down I'm not gonna break it down No you break it down Oh Oh I'm not getting out of bed for that Hmm See that's where I disagree with him
Starting point is 00:38:36 I'm not getting out of bed for that Why you disagree wouldn't he mean You wouldn't get out of bed for $8 million And Spons You said 1.5 you just changed number No You said 1.5. That's one sponsor.
Starting point is 00:38:46 He said multiple Jones on his back and hit a tattoo. You got moldable. You got shit on your shorts. You got shit. What you talk about, bro? That's the game. You're going to take it? Oh, my God. It's the fucking game.
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Starting point is 00:40:26 for 1.5 is different than 10 ad for 1.5. I just said, you're having a different conversation. I just said, did I just say, I'm leaving with 8 million? He did say that. That's fine. What if your 8 million just cut off your 60 million a month later?
Starting point is 00:40:41 From what? Tell them. The deals you didn't let materialize. You took the quick buck. It could look like a lot today. But if you don't know what you just cut off for the future because of exclusivity, your brand's not wanting to compete with the brand, you just kind of tattooed on your back.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Okay. All right, but listen. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Cuts. Wait, hold on, Cuts. Because we deal with... Okay, I'm going to give you another perspective. Because we deal with these people all the time. So, nine times out of ten,
Starting point is 00:41:11 11 times out of 10 If they're coming in for the fight And they want to get you 1.5 million A puts something on your back This is not the only thing they're doing with you They're giving you a shitload of money For all but other things Because if they coming in
Starting point is 00:41:25 This one time with that type of money They want to be in some type of marriage with you So this is not just one thing This is just the money that they're giving you For that night You didn't give that contact I mean I thought I thought
Starting point is 00:41:39 I thought that we were people that deal with sponsors. But I forgot we deal with subscriptions. Do we ever get fucking one-offs? Oh, we just want to come fuck with y'all for this. No, we don't. But see, that's what I mean. You're going to step in that.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You know what I mean? We're going to let the workers be the workers. We're going to do the motherfucking business, man. You think? You know what I mean? I'm worried about it. All you motherfuckers are crazy. Now, back to where I'm going at. Now, this is where I'm going at, Joe.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Spotify come in. Now the bad coming, you're like, all right, back, cool. Was it a value to that deal, or could you stay like you was and still grew? Because everybody knew Joe Buttons, everybody knows. What you mean? Like, say if y'all didn't take it, right, y'all took it. Y'all took the deal or did your thing within their world, Spotify. If you didn't take the deal, you would have kept going independently because people need to know it.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Because some people are like, I might don't want to take a deal. So, do you believe you still would have been on the magnitude that you are today? It would have took longer. okay it would have took longer that was the commercial that you felt I needed at the time especially being a music pod Spotify being one of the music yeah yeah a giant it made sense I'm just saying man y'all dig us go ahead man I'm gonna fall back come on come on get your ass you don't go ahead come on get your shit off
Starting point is 00:43:00 these d'clock who's the king today man I know y'all like wow what the fuck no I need to get the information out cuz what the fuck is you want to say say what you want to get the information out too why you ain't show my own Roy the motherfucker motherfucker receipts, man fuck wrong this motherfucker What receipts
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yo, you're out of pocket This is it got a pocket I wrote me some gun shit up today Is that what I should have did? Yeah, that's what you should do Was anybody on the paperwork but you? What you mean? Was anybody else on the paperwork?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like that was your company Joe Button Network. Nobody else was on that paperwork, right? okay right there's I think a lot of people work on this old he ain't shit no but if you're not on the paperwork you're a worker I know the paperwork make the paperwork you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:43:50 so you're all you guys man you know what I'm just saying you know what I mean it's not the same that it gets more than them but I understand you got to be on that paperwork to get certain access to certain information no I'm all right that's my motherfucking people
Starting point is 00:44:06 I know I know what I mean you're my people's no yeah I mean we ain't got nothing to do with that shit They just said you did them dirty. I don't know if you did them dirty. You got to ask them. It looked like you did them dirty like some gym socks, though.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I'm just saying what it looked like. I'm not saying if you did or not. I'm saying from the outside looking in. You know what I mean? But then they say you and Moore used to let it go. In a one bed room, a little bunk in. He's funny as shit. He's funny as shit.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Yo, you right there. He let us dump shit. You love that dumb shit. That's his bad. Listen, all I say. All I say, all I, I'm just saying what I heard. I heard him and ball used to live in a one-bedroom apartment
Starting point is 00:44:46 and Hoboken and the neighbors used to always complain about arguing. Gilly, I've never lived in a one-bedroom in my life. I'm just, I'm just saying what it was, but you and all did lit it up. Not a one-bedroom and not Hoboken. Now, right outside of old book. Take that to your sources. Take that to your fucking horses, nigga.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Now, now, now. now now now as you moving forward right I see you got a team my man that's not here to talk oh fuck that fuck that oh y'all y'all do your thing yeah nigga cause I ain't nobody went here that's marlow I'm trying to figure out I gotta get information now you know that
Starting point is 00:45:26 I need to know too fuck what you smoke a hooker with your man bitch for man man yeah why do you know all this though why are you watching all of this stuff why not is entertaining that was a one time occurring.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Oh, why would you be smoking hookah? What was that? What was that? At the time, at the time, at the time, at the time, at the time, let me clarify. A d'niko said you smoke a hookah with my bitch and nine years. Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:45:54 At the time, my house operated like a kickback house. Everybody came to. So your house is the hookah lounge. Yeah. So, so. You ain't see that wrong with that? He was just like, no, he, well, what did he see that he felt his door? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:46:10 No, I'm just saying he just said, let's you, dude snapped out. You were sleeping with my, I can't believe this. What the fuck happened? This is what happened. Him and Joe must have had a conversation. Joe said, yeah, I don't even entertain my homie's exes. That's what happened. My man, the man, my man bust out laughing.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Right? Joe said, fuck you're laughing at. He said, because you did entertain the ex. He said, you had no, hold on, nigga. He said, you had my ex over your motherfucker house smoking hookah, niggas. He never approached you about that beforehand? Wait, we had a talk. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:46:44 This wasn't a new talk. Wait, hold on, though. He said, so obviously, Joe must have been paying him back because Joe thought that he fucked this bitch because he just screamed that out of nowhere. You don't I fuck your best, niggas. I was like, wait, hold on. What the fuck's going on in this joint? Like, how is you niggas playing?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Oh, my God. It's Joey Savage. We have honest talks over there. So then he just screamed. that shit out of nowhere, right? I was like... And I didn't think that about it. I was like, hold on, wait.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I'm like, you smoking hookah with his bitch late at night. You know what come after smoking hookah. What come after smoking hookah? Blowing a saxophone. The fuck is you talking about. A lot of times smoking hookah leads to blowing a saxophone.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No, not this day. Maybe it didn't happen. All I'm just saying. But I'm just saying, though, like why would I be smoking hookah with wild old ex bitch of nine years man just me and her she was nine years damn at the crib
Starting point is 00:47:45 he's a he's a year you don't feel guilty about that no he said no I don't feel bad you'll do it again no I wouldn't do it again then you must feel guilty if you if it's something that you won't do again
Starting point is 00:47:57 and you don't feel like it was no foul in it no harm the ex popped up what do you mean the act she just came she wasn't cordially invited and wait hold on so she just came So you was just in the crib. She bombed up one day
Starting point is 00:48:11 and so I got to talk to you. And I lit a hook up. Wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on, wait, hold on. Joe, see, she said, I got to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:48:21 So you were just chilling at the crib. Joe was a good friend. There was a few people chained at the crib. It was a lot of people. Oh, so just one you were hurt? No. Oh, so why he made it like that? Why is his woman choose you to confide in?
Starting point is 00:48:32 You're to confide her. I'm good to confide her. Oh, shit. I'm good to confide. I like that part. Now, now, now, I want to say, I want to ask this. Okay, bet. I want to ask this.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I want to ask this. So, so, so. See, so after the hookah, it was a secret. No, stop. Y'all be honest. I'll just say, you set yourself about you. Let me ask you a great question. Let me ask you a real question.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Let me ask you a real question. No, I wouldn't fuck me my niggas girls. All right. All right. All right. Again. What is, what is, what is the issue? Is if it really was an issue because a lot of times people see shit on social media and we
Starting point is 00:49:05 say, damn, it's an issue. It ain't no. I'm going to kill you. I ain't going to do this type issue. It's like people have fallen outs. What is the issue with you in tax? None. No, no.
Starting point is 00:49:14 The reason I say that because every time you say, when tax name get mentioned, you're sunny. That's not true. You just got on him. Man, he was a work. Like, you just got on him. And so what is, it's something there. He was a worker.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But was it ever a tension between, you outside of the interview. It was never a tension outside of that interview. And I don't even really think that interview was tension. Cameras was on. He pottin. Niggas is potting. Tax has spoken to me, had people come up to the podcast,
Starting point is 00:49:44 asked of different things for support while he was in. I think I seen him the night before they snatched them in SOBs. Like, man, tax kicked it. That's internet fodder when they tried to say there was a problem with me and him. You know what's funny about us? We never is a messy podcast ever. Like, we just- I just said that on the way up here.
Starting point is 00:50:06 We just give up. We just give out game. God has attention, motivation, and education. No, y'all been messy today. You know. It's got to get messy when Joe is here. Joe talked about the fucking window. Stop this shit.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Stop the, nigga, stop it. Nick, I'm going to ask him about something. Fuck is you talking about. You still talking about that fucking window, nigga. Fuck the window. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. That shit was on the same room. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:50:29 You keep talking about the window. Fuck the window. Let me just say this. You know what it is. Let me just say this. And, oh, ho, hold. Don't forget the fucking the sharing, the sharing the room. Get him.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Get that day. See, you forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. You forgot. That one was for fake.
Starting point is 00:50:43 That one was for fake. No, that one was for fake. That one was for fake a little bit. That nigga, him and he had a plenty of things. I had a room in plenty of things. I didn't get a hundred million shit. You had a hundred million. You had to share to me.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Cuck out. Yeah. Cousin's a fucking piece of shit. And you and you're a kid. And you and it was coloring, nigg. I said, but go ahead. I heard of those type of cousin.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Why, why you sent shots at Canron and Mace? I didn't send no shots at Cam Ran. Yes, y'all did. We'd love to see the old niggas fail. They come with these sports podcasts. That wasn't an issue. You won't say there wasn't no fucking shot, Joe. That was a shot.
Starting point is 00:51:24 It was not a shot at Cameron. Who was the shot at, the old four? Or Mace. Who was this shot at? Well, you should ask the person who said it. Don't start asking me about another man words. Okay But say right now
Starting point is 00:51:39 It's all love right It's all love So I'm gonna keep it It's all love right It's all love He's all love Joe you fucks with anybody right It's just
Starting point is 00:51:48 Joe so it's all love right Yes Okay You heard that Joe fuck with anybody You took a long time to say that The people that it ain't all love I think know that it ain't all love I don't need to bro
Starting point is 00:51:59 Is it list long? Mm-mm Okay It's not long list Okay bad Why wouldn't it be all love No he's a million reasons You got people that...
Starting point is 00:52:07 20 billion reasons why... With podcasters? With humans. Let me ask you a question. But I'm saying people that that's podcasting. How is you and Charlemagne? You cool with Charlie? No.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Why? I'm just... If you don't... Salomey helped you a lot, bro. Oh, my God. Now you're about to creep for this. Charlotte, did Charlemagne? I don't...
Starting point is 00:52:28 Charlie, you know, Charlotte may help everybody. Oh, my God! You know Charlemagne helped everybody. He helped you? I ain't helped me. Charlemagne never helped you. Was you ever cool? Yo, let me stop.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Let's stop, because this is going to appear to be messy. Charlemagne has been helpful. Thank you. All right. Charlemagne has been helpful. That was good. He has.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I don't want it to look like I'm trying to say he hasn't been helpful. Plenty of people have been helpful along the way. I don't ever want to sound like I did this with the help of nobody. Right. Because that's not true. Now, along the way, have niggas done fuck shit that I've looked at with a, with a, with a eye and said, got to distance myself.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Back to behavior. Remember that's all we just had with the rappers? Okay. That's all across the board for me with humans. All right. Let me ask you a question. All right. Let me ask you a question, though.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Did you, hold on. Did you even have a conversation? You need to bring you on the political campaign. No, I'm saying. He need to bring you with him on the road. Listen, I can only operate with him awful motherfucker that I know how I, he, dealt with me. You feel what I'm saying? And how I know him to deal with
Starting point is 00:53:40 a bunch of other motherfuckers who we talked to and we like no, we just be talking. They're like, no, because Charlemagne plug me in. No, because Charlemagne, no, because Charlemagne. So, he just did you dirty for no reason? I didn't say, did me dirty. Don't put words on him. He said, you saw some fuck shit. I said, I saw some shit and distanced myself. All right, now let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:53:58 That's not blaming him. That's not putting the onus on him. Is it a possibility that y'all could Anything is possible? That y'all can reconnect. You go do the breakfast club and you'll have a conversation no you damn so you said anything's the possibility of joe i'm not doing the breakfast club yeah but you're going to have a conversation the company looks like they've taken the backing away from the show okay all right so so so so oh yeah he's a shot wait wait wait wait hold oh wait what you mean the company look like they took you the
Starting point is 00:54:24 back away back and away from the show this motherfucking elaborate what it looked like the optics why we got to ask our but listen let me let me ask your question fuck all that don't look the thing i'm gonna get away from that right it look different can you and show He's not there. That's the only difference. And that show looked like they have some support from the company, right?
Starting point is 00:54:43 What do you say? No. Well, hey, see. All right, go ahead. This motherfucker Joe, man. Can you and shawler kick it? Why don't talk to so much about other niggas?
Starting point is 00:54:53 No, no. We're talking about somebody record, because y'all big in the game. That's what we're saying, y'all. Like, we got to be an example at one point, Joe. I understand.
Starting point is 00:55:02 People don't fuck with the show. Here come to motivation. Listen, people. He said, he's about to run toward me. Good morning. Listen, fuck all that. Good morning. Give me some more.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Give me some more than this thing out there. What I'm saying is this. Why do you don't work with Charlemagne? Huh? Why are you not working with him since he helped you so much? Fuck you mean? We can't, we fuck with. I didn't ask you about who you fuck with.
Starting point is 00:55:21 What you mean? I asked you about the inner workings of your business. Oh, no, no. We got to be. Why don't work with him? We had all the business. He helped everybody, gave everybody opportunity. What happened?
Starting point is 00:55:28 What happened? Answer my question. No, no. You have all that. Fuck all that. We already have been this prior to that. I got this. Now, I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:55:36 All I'm saying is, you have business. People. Bad business. Now, I say you had business. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, I'm just saying like. So if you had business, you might not need to be in business with your own.
Starting point is 00:55:46 No, what is the issue? What is the issue to the point where it's, though? Could you say everything, anything is possible? Anything. Which are, but you're all reconnecting your brother. I don't,
Starting point is 00:55:54 I don't have, this is not, listen, for me, this is all like podcasts. So it's not that deep. This is not, this is not a real.
Starting point is 00:56:01 issue between Charlemagne, myself. Oh, yeah, cool. Any of the people that it looked like it was something on the internet, that's not real life to me. That's not, that's not even how you let somebody know at this juncture that there's an issue. Okay. Like, there's another way to do that.
Starting point is 00:56:16 If it was really interesting. If it was, yeah. Like, if Charlemagne walked in here, I could acknowledge that he just walked in it. Hey. Salute. Yeah, I'm cordial. But I've never been Mr. Big Talker, Mr. Clicky grew up. Let's be posse gang.
Starting point is 00:56:30 we did that ain't I mean we ain't like that either I didn't say it was I didn't say it was I said I Yeah but it's cool to be human It's cool to connect I like that human
Starting point is 00:56:41 It's cool to be human That was a brand job It's cool to be human I'm in voice to y'all You ain't got to hang with a motherfucker To connect with a motherfucker You think Ian ain't To fucking hang with you
Starting point is 00:56:51 He is Fuck And you know what's funny too You want to come down here With us smoke some weed Some type Like even look at him Look at him
Starting point is 00:57:00 Look at him He said, yeah, he lit the whole car right up. He lit the whole car right up. But listen, even if there was, like, tension between, let's say, imaginary nigger A and imaginary nigger B, I think that those two people should still be able to conduct business together at some point. That's what I'm saying. I stand in that.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Because it don't be no beef. If there's business to be done, yeah, this should don't be about nothing. Right. It don't be no beef between me and you. So that's why we're going to sign you. That's exactly why we're going to sign you. I want to imagine. Which camera is.
Starting point is 00:57:30 mine. It'd be imaginary beefs. I'm gonna ask y'all some questions. It'd be imaginative beefs between me and Joe. Like he just said, we can still get money. Right. So we go. Gilly started getting money and start sending shots to me. No, I did. You're a lying-ass nigga. And I let those shots go for a while.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Because you, my man. Then Gilly found a way to infiltrate my team. I was hurt. What happened? He found a way to infiltrate my team. I was hurt by that. I then had to respond. In real time, he caused a lot of grief and trauma to my world. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yes, he did. I'm telling you. I was connected with your team, not him. I'm telling you. I never was connected to me. I don't talk to all and roaring. Well, what's he to tell me? I don't talk to him.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Listen. Oh, what would you tell me? I don't talk to niggas. All right, well, how did he infiltrate your team? It's not important. No, give it. You got to speak about it. You got a liar.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You just threw that shit out there. You threw that shit out there. He's lying. So let me ask you something. If I call, if I call your phone, right? Come on, let's talk. If I call your phone, what's the likelihood
Starting point is 00:58:32 that Gilly might be in close proximity of you, and I can maybe get a word to Gilly through you. I don't think. I don't know. Can you answer my question? But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Is it a possibility, but I don't hang with him. He's another ass nigga, but go ahead. I know y'all don't hang with him. Fucking that ass nigga. But go ahead. We got different lives. But it's fine.
Starting point is 00:58:50 It's fine. No, but what happened? But I've forgiven Gilly. I didn't do nothing. Get the fuck out of here. This fake ass forgiven shit. I forgave you. And then I thought it was cool.
Starting point is 00:59:01 You said Gil threw shots at you. I threw shots at him. No, go ahead. He's saying through the conversation. Go ahead. Yeah, you did. He said really hurtful things. But I then forgave him.
Starting point is 00:59:09 What the fuck did I say? And then he invited Charlemagne up here. And that's when I took some of my forgiveness back. I didn't like that conversation. Y'all had up here. What did you? I didn't like it. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Joe, what was the shot? I don't give a fuck. I'm telling you, I didn't like that. Say the shot. I didn't say nothing about a shot. I'm putting the on this on me. I didn't like that person. Oh, yeah, that was a personal stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That's personal. He don't blame that on me. He puts it on me, nigga. So now. Don't blame that on me. So now you went at the window. It got to happen now. He went for the window.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Don't blame that on me, Nick. Because Gilly is the front man of this part. So when he gets on his animated shit and look in the camera and do all of that shit, I have to respond to you. I look to respond to you. I can't respond to a nigga. I just came on 20 years. You look crazy doing that.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Charlemagne came up here trying to do some shit. I saw that play from around the, corner and I responded appropriately in the lightest of fashions in the lightest of fashions I don't really engage in all the all the shenanic but we didn't say nothing about your buddies I know you didn't so you got your feelings I know you got a motion watch it but you said you said shot though you said shot still hold on this oh no shot you got on some light skin shit no you got extra skin you did didn't the same thing you're doing today with your with your re-emphasis on how you feel about ass versus this and
Starting point is 01:00:28 deal. You put you, you had to shoes on when Charlamagne came up here. I almost drove up here. Oh. For what? Didn't you beat the fuck up? I almost drove up here. Listen, Joe, Joe, Joe, listen. And we don't have, and we don't have, the paperview do not do that. We got to have that shit together
Starting point is 01:00:42 before any of this. I said drive up here and y'all automatically take that as vime. Yeah, fuck you drive. You could call the thing. You got to call the thing. Why you got to drive a hour and a head? Why you ain't called a day? Or academic. Why you ain't been responding in our group chat, Nick?
Starting point is 01:00:56 No, no. I can do it. I did. No, no, he was on vacation. I was in a pizza. He was on vacation. Don't thumbs up in the group chat. Yeah. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Don't thumbs up in a group chat. This is got a long list of PetPee. I'm selling you shit. No, you got a long list of Petit. I don't like, I don't like that. Don't thumbs up in the group chat. You got a long. You got a long list of PetPee.
Starting point is 01:01:19 But I'm going to say this though. I'm going to say this. When we went, you know, even with that, everybody. If you do podcasts, you can get money in subscriptions. You get money. advertisement. Act was mad at Joe. How fuck Act?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Oh yeah, Act was mad. But we told him... I told him we was coming. He was mad. He was mad. He was snapping. You know, he was mad at Joe.
Starting point is 01:01:37 But Act, act, treat people better. Who? Now that y'all up, don't stop. Fuck you mean. We all, come on.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Fuck you mean. Get that. Joe was some bullshit trying to put that shit out there. Stop the do shit. I'm telling you what he's saying. Listen, y'all, y'all fixed it. Y'all made it right. You all made it right.
Starting point is 01:01:54 You all made it right. Act saying some bullshit. Listen. Y'all made it. That would go in there and snap the fuck out about nothing. Because he had a couple fucking brusky. A couple of hot bruskees. He's a fucking Brucey 11s, four locoes, and he goes crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:05 No, because y'all support is a fucking tea joint. Y'all's coffee. Y'all support is important to people. So when they're looking for you to show up and really impact their platform, let's take some time out your busy day, man. You took time out of your busy day. And I will say this. I will say this about Joe. The day is, you know, five a day.
Starting point is 01:02:22 And he said, I'm going to get some time and I appreciate that. The day. No, for him, he had the kids today. What fuck are you talking about Giving a wrong message off today Father's Day Wait, what the fuck are you talking about He was going back and forth
Starting point is 01:02:34 He said, listen I'm going to make it my business Even though I got the kid To then say today he had his son I thought about Today he had his son You talk about today is Fathers Day motherfuckers are like
Starting point is 01:02:44 They shot that shit on Fathers Day No, I didn't like that I'm just saying Yeah no I told you I was gonna make it my business And I appreciate you for doing I came up here So people could know
Starting point is 01:02:53 Like in real life That there's no Joe But Gillian Wallow. Yeah, you came up busy when we seen your traffic, we ain't jumping, you know, I ain't a down for that thing.
Starting point is 01:03:03 He's a bitch. You've always been a bitch. You'd definitely be him to fuck up. You must be on a creatine. I'm never saying, such a tiny person. You'd definitely be him to fuck up. I ain't worried about that.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah, I mean, it's all good. Be the same height. He's just way more. I'm gonna ice the shit out of him. I ain't worried about that shit. He don't understand. He don't understand that fucking weight though.
Starting point is 01:03:21 That's just gonna be, what I ice you, it's gonna be hard for you to get up. You had to roll and all that shit Roll and get the fucked up and all that I ain't gonna lie though Ain't no icy odd in my own I ain't gonna have some salt neither
Starting point is 01:03:33 Ooh Ain't ain't gonna be no extra salt You ain't did a physical fucking activity In 30 fucking years That part I do gotta give to you You like podcast athlete of the year With all your basketball What am I'm me too? Me too
Starting point is 01:03:48 Did you see me spar in a professional boxer? No See that's your problem I didn't see you do nothing with these Yeah, caught him with that other cut. Bam! I saw a lot of this. That shit comes from here.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I saw all of this. That shit comes from here. I didn't see nothing with these. That shit comes from here. I turned that shit over you. Wham! I turn that shit over you. It's all in the way.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It's all in the head, too. So you're going to be throwing all the arm punches. I'm coming from here with that shit. Bram! You don't have you put up. Look at your legs. You skip leg there your horn. Look at your legs.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Let me just tell you something. I'm about a athlete. You might need a knee replacement. I'm an athlete. A hip replacement. I'm an athlete. Just because you got to come in the door Sidewaves and all that shit, man.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I ain't got nothing to do with that plan. Motherfucking. Just because you got water on your knees and all that. You suffering from OPS, old people's shit. I was going to hit you all about some type of fundraising basketball events. You don't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Jersey niggas ain't ballers, man. Cut that shit out, man. Don't do that. New Jersey niggas ain't balls. I'm not. So I took that. What type of event? You got, you know, hold the,
Starting point is 01:04:54 It don't matter. No, no, no, no, no, no. This shit happened with Cube. This shit happened with a lot of people, man. I'm tired this shit happened with Carmelo Anthony, Damien, Liller, and now a fucking Kevin Durant now with you. What the fuck you keep mentioning his game and not mine? You're like, you don't see that we play together.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Because you fucking... What the fuck is you on, Joe? Like, you hate saying... I've seen more gilly basketball clips than I've seen... You never seen none of my fucking clips. I didn't say it. So when you see them, why you're not acknowledging my motherfucking game? He always file out.
Starting point is 01:05:21 He always hack it. You know what he called him. I said, what? Hakeem Elijah, why. Fuck out of there. Let me see if my highlights are. We'll see. And you never want to be that guy, right?
Starting point is 01:05:32 Fowler shit out. I could like to pull up your own highlights. But, I mean, it's fine. I'll take the phone. He called the nigger. You see, that's the big, the big three. There you got me on this shit off. They got me number two.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Before Gil. Yeah. They got big, oh, oh, Kane on there. You know, I'm going to go. Fucking Kane. Big Daddy Kane, man. No, he's the coach. Shout out to Kane.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah. Fuck, you talk about. You think Big Daddy Kane was playing. is wrong with you, man. Big Daddy Kane was grown in 80. No, he's not. And Dougie Fress playing, nigga, what the fuck is you talking? No. Look, look, Curb is the fucking coach, man.
Starting point is 01:06:03 And Carl's... He'll be able to fucking suit on, man. He ain't fucking playing, man. That's my fucking nigga. I need y'all to take some more ads so we can get some air in this room. Don't worry about it, nigga. No, this is the trap, nigga. There's the good airs out there, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Swelling like a motherfucker, I need to say. You can sweat for a minute. You can sweat for a minute. You can't sweat for a minute. Welcome to the trap. You ain't been in the traphouse, nigga. And 30. I know them
Starting point is 01:06:24 Welcome to the track, Bigger. Bent installation don't be cheap. Duck work. Yeah, that's fucking wrong with you. He's fucking right. His nigga crafty.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. I don't know why they open that door. No, no, it's not for real. No, for real. Yeah, I mean, he's sweating all up under the leather louis. No, that's true. Ain't a fucking bite until you wear a leather louis. It's an 89, big, fucking greens out.
Starting point is 01:06:46 He got a fucking leather louis or drinking coffee. I'm sweating. I bet the fuck you is. You got a fucking. wrong with you. You're going to cook a fucking egg with your biscuit right now. You got a fucking leather. There, there you go. Open that motherfucking door.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Yeah. You got a fucking leather, fucking Louie. I'm sitting with a fucking hoodie or I ain't doing nothing. He said with a t-shirt on a leather fucking, a leather ball cap baking his fucking biscuit. It's true. Yeah, with your fucking sunglasses on. Thank you. How was Gilly? How was Gilly?
Starting point is 01:07:16 You know how it was. You got an invitation. You got an invitation. You got it to him. You got it on vacation. You was on vacation. My fault. I caught you. My fault. No, I thought I gave you my fault.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Damn. He wasn't coming. He's an introvert. Must have slipped in the mail. He's a fucking introvert. He already put that other day. Don't give me a bite because I ain't coming. That nigga ain't coming.
Starting point is 01:07:34 It was too many niggins around. The only place he go to is the strip club. Sit there. Look like a fucking old-ass creep. I would have came again. Yo, how much money are you, how much money are you wasting the strip clubs? Your life. You see him, though.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's not that much. He looked like an old ass. Oh, so how much. Look, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, Joe. you ever got when you went in the strip club? Not that much.
Starting point is 01:07:56 What's not that much? This nigga tight, y'all. The most? Not that much. Oh, this nigga petty murder. A lion. Ain't. I think it's a privilege.
Starting point is 01:08:04 No, I can't tell you. They didn't bro. I'm all going to call your ass crazy. I'm not doing that, man. I'm not doing that. I'm trying to jam me up, man. Everything's cool. Whatever spent is spent.
Starting point is 01:08:15 It's gone already. Don't come. Don't come doubling back to me. You see a couple ones. I see it. Anytime I see him, I see a good $150. That's it. Splashed out.
Starting point is 01:08:23 That was it. It's my bag. Hey, when you see this bag normally, normally it's just a hold about three and four. But I'm just saying that's a old. And when this bag is gone, that means three and four is gone and you should go home. You know that's a pocketbook, though. Whatever it is, they hold three and four. I wouldn't give fuck what they do, but they hold three and four.
Starting point is 01:08:39 You got an old school, my old school mom pocketbook and shit. It's a nice pocketbook. Yeah. Yes. That thing is high, man, he got contact. That'd be Joe got contact, man. Oh, my grandma rules,
Starting point is 01:09:01 Paco book, man, fuck we're all with him. The rest of a piece of Grandma rules. Niggas get too much money. Don't know what to spend that shit on, give me the go yard pocket pocket pocket box. What's your foul on your taxes last year? To you know what I'm going to ask all these fucking questions. No comments.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Don't say nothing to that. Don't say nothing to cost. Hey, no, no, no. First of all, nigga, you keep talking. I'll show you what we just paid in one quarter. No. No. You don't have to.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I've seen the cars outside. Nothing. Listen. I see the cars. We're not doing on it. But listen, let me just say this. It was the same car from the YouTube video. Listen, that's their car. Yeah, I don't know who said that. Yeah, I don't know who said that.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Take them back. That's what. We ain't leasing no creasing, you hear me? Hey, the same card from the video is there. I saw it. I'm gonna say this though. Lamborghini Lovene. I will say this.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I will. Mayback Lizzie, nigga. AMG 63 Lizzie, nigga. I will say this though. Too many van old ass joints that need water pump. You weren't about the new classic Because I don't sell them bitches The motherfucking minivans is classics
Starting point is 01:09:57 I'm not letting them drop them nut That part of the story You're fucking nut I'm mad you cut him off When he was going to explain the window thing though No go explain the window Go ahead explain it
Starting point is 01:10:07 That ain't the window Break the window down Joe like windows That window bigger than that Window Wizard You also get a window sponsor It actually longer than that Window Wizard
Starting point is 01:10:15 Y'all don't remember Window Wizard That was a hell of a It was a hell of a company Joe you know You know when this is over right what's funny is I actually did a video
Starting point is 01:10:26 I could show it to you too right where I wasn't stood at one side of my bedroom and I was crazy and I was and I didn't even respond listen listen listen and I had
Starting point is 01:10:38 my my bedroom door to my walking closet open and I was like this is what everybody's joking about I never let Gil respond I said this is 700 this bedroom is seven hundred
Starting point is 01:10:50 this bedroom is 700 square feet. I said, this is a half a block. Joe Budge, why don't you come over so we can have a block party in my bedroom? I didn't post it, John. That's sound wild. A block party in my bedroom?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah. That's how long my block. That's how long the bedroom is, nigga. Fuck wrong with you. You've seen that video, nigga? No, but you didn't even know my motherfucking bedroom was that big. It sounds like wrong with you.
Starting point is 01:11:17 700 square feet. Fuck, yeah. How many niggas bedrooms can you take 15 steps in? from front to back. Fuck, we talk about most niggas, bedrooms you take five and you're through the whole bed.
Starting point is 01:11:27 So, what I'm gonna move to bed? Fuck wrong, which I ain't gotta move to bed, nigga. You think I'm dead? You think I'm worried about what you talk about, why you don't want to look out of the window?
Starting point is 01:11:34 When it look like F.C. Kerbac outside my motherfucker house, nigga, you think I give a fuck what you talk about. I won't write the fuck up and did a video right from that same spot
Starting point is 01:11:44 the next day, the next day, the fuck is wrong with it. I ain't get a fuck about what you talk about, you shouldn't either. None of, I don't think any,
Starting point is 01:11:52 picture. I knew you a asshole. Everybody knew you an asshole. See, I disagree with that. What? I think I'm one of the nicest people you'll mean in vodka. Let me just say this. I'm one of the nicest people you will meet in. Let me just say this. Charlemagne would say you're an asshole. Maul would say you're an asshole. Rory would say you're an asshole. Taxone would say you're an asshole. I would definitely say you're an asshole. That's not nice. That hurts. Wعلwood would say you're the other nice people. Who's other nice people? Who's the other nice people? You name and wait, hold on. name and people.
Starting point is 01:12:23 The Miggles would say you're an asshole. No, they wouldn't. That man's wife of eight years. He's... Man, that man was so hurt, man. He couldn't wait to get this shit out. Within the midst of smoking a hookah with it.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Did you ever think this might not be right? Tuma's nice. Who? Yes. Oh, yes. He is. What? Tuma is a fucking legend. Tuma?
Starting point is 01:12:45 Tuma. Our guy. Carl Cherry is nice. Carl Cherry. He's a fucking legend. Ebro's nice. You're not a nice guy. You're not considered
Starting point is 01:12:52 nice guy. I'm one of the nicest people. No, you're not. I am. Even to the... You named all the people I've been assholes. Even to the companies, you're not a nice guy. I'm not a company man. I know. I know. We know. I'm not a company man. You're fucking idiot. That's what they say. I don't deal well with companies. They don't say... Why are you rat? Don't tell me what they said.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Why are you telling me what they said? I don't know. I'm just making shit up. That dink of fuck what I know what they said about you. They might have told you. No, but I knew you're a fucking idiot. They might have told you. Ian told me. I ain't want to put that out there, but fucking Ian told me.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I was crazy when I mentioned. I'm going to say this though. Some of the stories you hear about me might be true because I might have been a little off when these people met me. Was he off when you met him? Uh, no.
Starting point is 01:13:36 He was off? Just pills. Was he all? Perks? Like he was crazy? Heavy. He was just a dick here to you, huh? Oh, we can't.
Starting point is 01:13:45 30s? Oh, he was it? Let him go ahead. 30s? Let me see. How many you was taking it one time? Four. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:13:50 No, no. No. I wasn't going crazy like that, but I took it's like a motherfucker. You took perks? No. Stop fucking talking to me about perks, man. Like you understand. I took a 602, my back return with me.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I took a 602. That's a perk five bitchy ass joint. It's the small. He don't respect that. He don't respect that. I started though. That's like stepping up, you bitch ass knicker. That's like a Tylenol.
Starting point is 01:14:11 That's like a Tylenol. That's like a Tylenol. Beans though. It's not. That's how you know you was too heavy. A six on two is not a title. The fuck of you're a extra strip. That's like eight Tylenol's.
Starting point is 01:14:22 You got to take the whole jac. Now, now. You got to take the big boy. Now, let's straighten it out for the people. We got to straighten this out because you sound like you enjoy it. No, no, we got to straighten this out for the people. Beansdough both of y'all was perk addicts. How did y'all get pulled in to help you?
Starting point is 01:14:35 I'm just saying, how do y'all help people? Like, how did y'all get rehabilitated? I went on the news. What you mean? I went on the news and say, hey, stop doing pills. But let me take it to you. That ain't got anything to do with juice with yourself. No, no, I stopped.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And then I went on the news. told them to start i did my service jo really how did you shake the piece Joe really wasn't talked to somebody though like how did you shake the piece like a picture that before the podcast he was in there hi I'm jonathan button
Starting point is 01:15:03 I'm an every perk user I take five or ten a day I argue all the time with my roommate mall yeah we wrestled for two hours last night yo stop I'm bringing up all the niggas names, man. You know, you said you wrestle, man.
Starting point is 01:15:23 You're wrestling. Why would they wrestle? Jonathan, why was you wrestling? I wanted to watch movies. There was no tide there. All right. Stop, man. Stop.
Starting point is 01:15:32 These motherfucking throw you. See. Stop. Leave that to the mold, cuz. No, no, I'm on. No, this the kicker. No, that's going to chop this shit up and piece it up. This the kicker, though.
Starting point is 01:15:43 This the kicker, though. He like, but I'm mad at myself. They like, why are you mad, Jonathan? He was like, Because I actually thought I bought the tide. He did. I was too high. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I forgot this time he bought the tide. So. They were crazy. They did real talk. And he was like, then when I opened a refrigerator, it was why podcasted didn't need mics. When I opened an refrigerator,
Starting point is 01:16:08 and I see my craned apple that I had put Joe Button on and was gone. It was really on. Nobody drinks my grand apple, especially when I'm off. a punk, 120. Nobody. You and Marr was in there going through it. You high as shit. Was Maul getting high with you? May no answer that. I don't want to know.
Starting point is 01:16:28 More wasn't doing no. I don't know. So you all in there high. Stop putting pills on me. Maude don't do that. So you all in there high fucking with Maul. How do you take that shit? You think I would live with a nigga I had to share pills with? Damn. Oh my God. These niggas is crazy, man. What are you talking about? How would your women dealing with you off them joints? I guess not good. They all left. Why they all left?
Starting point is 01:16:47 because they ain't no fucking more oh thank God because I'm in love now break that down thank God you did a post because I found love
Starting point is 01:16:55 what's what's up good thing good thing but she got the best version of you yeah she locked down oh she didn't get the
Starting point is 01:17:01 oh yeah she came in at the right time she looked out she ain't get this nigga that's my baby she got a good version
Starting point is 01:17:06 I see you take vacations a lot you take them vacations you don't be playing the three of us do three of us do who y'all too three of us do
Starting point is 01:17:14 he just got back right she didn't get this Jonathan Hey, hey, you hit the group chat. Run bump it up back. You hit the group chat. Like me?
Starting point is 01:17:23 You started on me in the group chat. No, you was on vacation. And then, soon as you come back, he had to go. No, I booked another one. Man, because he only be going for three days. Joe, just booked an extra two days, Joe. That expensive. I got to take my shots, Joe.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Get your shit off. You talked about my fucking bedroom window, you know. I gave me it so you. You know my fucking window go. You know the window go. Let the window go. I told you about that shit. mirror window
Starting point is 01:17:47 the fuck up fuck wrong with you that window comment did get the comments heated up man they did he loved it he was sitting back laughing he loved that stuff
Starting point is 01:17:58 I did I was laughing too he loved a shit I didn't I jumped in the comments if that was really something I wouldn't have jumped in this nigga
Starting point is 01:18:05 I was laughing though no that was funny it was funny it was funny well not as funny as they love fucking hat you got on right now
Starting point is 01:18:11 why he's drinking motherfucker you spent a thousand dollars for their drink too and he spent like a thousand $1,000 for their drink.
Starting point is 01:18:18 For the hat? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Canal Street. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah, why do all black podcast is pocket watch like this?
Starting point is 01:18:29 I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't do it. I don't know. He got a leather head from the moodyful guys. If you do a few ads, you could get this hat, too. Hey, this leather hat.
Starting point is 01:18:41 If you put Marlboro on the side of your face, you can get this ad. Let me do this ad, do it for real, for real. This leather louis hat is both of you by Moody Fugas on Canal Street. Fresh from Nigeria. Come get all your Louis Vuitton right now from Muddy Foucaus. And now you're doing free ads. Yeah. I'm going to say this, man.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Come on, get some motivation. We don't even do motherfuckers. We don't get some motivation up here. We don't do fucking podcast this long, man. And this shit, man, we ain't here. We don't say here my motherfucker asked her. I don't know how you do four fucking hours. That's how I had another hour
Starting point is 01:19:18 Don't never say that Don't never say that Dog I don't sit on this couch like this one No you just said that your cheeks hurt I'm not like that They ain't hurting like yours was hurting fucking tough my shit hurt from sitting down You was a jail getting worked to fucking out
Starting point is 01:19:32 This is a big difference Yeah okay fuck wrong with you They came in the cell fine you Laying on your stomach with your ass wet He's like to He's fascinated with jail He was knocked up with him on his motherfuckers This is great
Starting point is 01:19:45 This thing I love jail This is awesome You ever been locked up? No You got locked up before You never got locked up once Not in jail I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:19:52 But you locked county Yeah How many days How many days You got three DVs A bunch of different times No how many days What's the long
Starting point is 01:19:59 Is you done? Oh two days Stories from the cell What happened when you was in jail? Like you go in there I got the fuck about it is Where happened? I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:20:08 Did they get you I couldn't believe People was cool With these living conditions I had to go I'm just saying What type of sandwich did you What type of sandwich
Starting point is 01:20:14 Did they give you? why you was there in the two days you was there for two days that's a long time yeah no we got trays and how was the trays should i ate it oh so it wasn't that bad but it wasn't good it wasn't good then the next time i went back it was budget cuts so did you was there for two days you ate the trays you was starving did you mean did you didn't you miss you got locked out i had seconds of the trade did you miss you oh you was a tray warrior man a three day tray warrior you know that's you like broke a record no usually motherfuckers still be trying chill Yeah, motherfucker said
Starting point is 01:20:44 He ain't two trades Straight motherfucker said Joe Pum pump Pum pump Pum I mean That was my song
Starting point is 01:20:51 That was my job That was my job That was his joint I told you that People still sing that song That was Joe I told you when I said Floyd Mayweather
Starting point is 01:20:59 And my wife was dancing You seen a video Nick Don't act like you ain't see it Nick And I ain't trying to act Like you know You're not ass
Starting point is 01:21:05 Niggas Niggas Ain't no way my followers They said that I'm gonna say this A thousand times. Did you miss your girl when you was in jail for them two days? I don't know if I had a girl when I went for the two days.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Bro, he woke up in jail. He was on the fucking perks, man. How did you feel about dating? No, that's the other problem. How do you feel about dating? It wasn't about, I don't know nothing about dating apps. He was on Christian Mingol. I always been to him outside.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I don't know nothing about the date naps. That wasn't, that's some new shit. Oh, man. Let me ask you, how long you and your current woman have been together? Four years. Four years. So I'm fine. Listen.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Can I, I just, I just would love to ask her one fucking question. You don't think God she doesn't do any of you. Like, just one, I'm gonna ask on here. You've been with Joe for four, going on five years. That's, that's my man. How the fuck you put up with this nut-ass, nigga? I've been sitting there thinking about Wallow for 90 minutes. Fuck you do that.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Like, you are like, you to deal with this. I couldn't deal with both of you, You go on the road? What's her name? What's her name? I'm not telling you. Debra. Debra.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Debra, the real MVP. You're the real, she got an old-ass name. I was about to say that. Fuck up here in 70. No, that name is the damn, Debra.
Starting point is 01:22:24 You know what I mean? You're the real MVP, though. You put up with this nut-ass niggas? Because I know he hot, cool, on all. I don't know he just. I'm so, I'm so, PTSD.
Starting point is 01:22:34 I'm so calm and preserved. ADHD. And I feel like these narratives that you podcasters, like put out there, travel over the years. Then I got to see people in public and they believe some of this shit to be like what it is. I'm not all of these things. Do you take pictures in public
Starting point is 01:22:49 when people run up with you? Because you see like, no, man, you see me with my chick, chill. I'd rather not. Oh, no. If I'm with my girl, I'm with my girl, they're still run up on you. Oh, if I'm with my girl, they still run up joke, I get a picture. No. But they do run up on you still. You're an asshole. Unless I'm trapped and I can't move and I have to take it. But no, I ain't take no fucking picture. I'm
Starting point is 01:23:10 Like my Caucasian dude back You do that? Fucking right. All of them? All of them. You too? Mm-hmm. Fuck wrong with you.
Starting point is 01:23:20 That's who paid the motherfuckers reason why that motherfucking Lamborghini outside. Fuck wrong. I got to take, you know, I just listen. Two of them, that's a corvette, man. They look like so fly. He thought it was a like, motherfucker. The whole twist is, the whole thing is like.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Two cars and one, nixon. 66 back with an 89. I think to each his own when it comes. to that. Everybody got their own way of their privacy and how they like their space. Because some people will come up and, you know, whatever. Me, I'll take a picture whatever or whoever. Anytime somebody come. No matter how you look. No matter what time it is. What you mean how? No matter how you look, that's that light skin shit. No matter how
Starting point is 01:23:57 you look. See, that light skin shit just came up. No matter how you lay. I'm about how the fuck I look? How old was you when you lost your top, man? When your head went out. How old was you? I got hair now. Nigel. No. Joe, you ain't got no fuck. Joe, you lying, nigga. You line. You line. You ain't got a bird's You know you ain't got no one fucking. I got hair. I ain't you. This nigga is, you know, god-dell.
Starting point is 01:24:16 You don't grow hair? You don't grow hair? Joe, you ain't but 38, nigga. You should be able to grow hair. Joe, you're lying. You ain't got the regular shit. You ain't got no one. Get the fuck out of it.
Starting point is 01:24:29 I went, I went ball on my own when I was 31. I cut it off my self. I don't believe that shit. I was the first ball-bearded nigger. You were lying, Joe, your shit was starting to be lying. Nah, I just don't got corners. You're fucking lying. This shit went out of me.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I just don't have corners. That's what that nigga head lies. But check this out. And I'm not going to turkey to get one. We can't make it if we try just the two of us. I know. Because he wanted to be dead. He wanted to bring his line back.
Starting point is 01:24:59 He won't here. Doug, you ain't got, come on me, bro. You know to bring your line back. I'm not going to turkey. If you let your shit wolf out and you took your hat off and we shine the light on that shit, it would put the Batman signal up in the motherfucker. head, man. Fuck wrong with you, man.
Starting point is 01:25:13 And during COVID, there's pictures out of me with my head, beard, it's looking crazy. I just don't have corners. Damn. That nigga got, that nigga got a city with no corners. Yeah, that's it. And I don't want to know here. I'm closer to laser in this shit off.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Cool. Like all of it. Fuck hair. But that shit is, that shit is pain. If I was looking at him on YouTube. The mustache, then. No, no. He's talking about the hair.
Starting point is 01:25:34 The shadow. So you want to have the shadow. You're going to be looking like low. Fuck you mean like me. No. Let me see. Lyle, he got here, too. Lowe got the butt-necked, though.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I ain't got no hair. No, you got here. He got the joy. On the side. That's here. See, I would remove that. That's what I'm, you know, that shit painful, though. Wait, $100,000.
Starting point is 01:25:52 You ain't removed that? No. That shit painful. Did you see, did you see, hold up, hold up, Joe. Did you see, do you see a video with that shit? No. When they're popping that shit, nigga, you. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:26:03 That shit like a fucking tattoo. That should be lazy. That ain't, but. Yeah, but I got tattoos. That don't determine. different man that shit different you got tattoos too i'm talking about tattoo removal they say they should oh no that hurts that that's what
Starting point is 01:26:15 it looked like i'm not shit that shit i don't need hair that bad i'm not trying to be down with none of these things like i ain't trying to look young they got tattoo on his ass they down low fuck out of it I'm just saying his niggas out there dying their beards and all that you never used Beijing that's why I see you what my barber used Beijing on me
Starting point is 01:26:31 when it first came out then I had to go I was like I was that motherfucking CIAA and that shit melting right down in the middle of the event in the middle of the event I was trying to talk to a girl
Starting point is 01:26:46 shit just started bleeding nigs looking like my face is melancho yeah you good I ran into the bathroom yo let me just say this that was bad times let me just say this that's before they had
Starting point is 01:26:55 the Beijing technology where they started doing it they do it a little better now fuck all that let me say this I ain't I ain't exclude nobody if you wear Beijing
Starting point is 01:27:07 you're another ass nigga I'm just saying. Oh, it's a mad, a bunch of nutt-ass nests. They're wearing Beijing out there. Yeah, for sure. Is it Beijing all-stars out there?
Starting point is 01:27:16 Beijing was out when we was fucking younger. What we used to do. We used to bust on niggas, man. Man, you're nut-ass, nigga, you're about to fuck the whole pillow set up, niggas. Come on, man. Did you talk about?
Starting point is 01:27:27 Did you fuck a pillow set up? Fuck wrong with you. They were putting that shit on me while I was on TV. Yeah? Damn. Like, let me just say something, man. Let me just say something.
Starting point is 01:27:38 something man you're going to TV or face it. The worst thing you could do in life as a man you're Beijing Listen, I'm gonna keep it all the way real because let's be for real if you get in Beijing
Starting point is 01:27:51 is because you're missing something because when your shit right and right you don't put no Beijing and you know just line me to fuck up dog So when you get Beijing that's because you got to add a little corner you got to put a little head your shit little light
Starting point is 01:28:04 So the worst thing you can do in life as a man is love some shit that ain't loving your back. See, your headline that ain't loving you back. Your headline is like, no, dog, I'm out, you know. West Side, I'm out, bro. You feel what I'm saying? And you still holding on. You still trying to hold.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Chop and screw that shit, man. You run around here with this side of your mother. You got brown hair for real, but your shit all dark. Motherfucking looking like a pack of suey sauce all in your shit, man. Fuck wrong with you. Man, that shit ain't cool. And I'm going to tell y'all, y'all be looking corny. shit. I'm gonna be the first one
Starting point is 01:28:39 to tell you. Stop that shit. You look corny and shit. Your shit look all black. Shit look too black. Shit looks stiff and shit. Nickin' smile. You got watch who you bump up against the shit. You can't ain't bump. You can't even be playing. Ah! Oh shit,
Starting point is 01:28:56 Doug! You fuck my suit up. Like, you can't be white. Fuck wrong with you, man. Can't wear white. You can't, you can't even wear white. He went through it. Like, you in the party. You're in the party, you got to monetize much you dance and shit. Yeah, yeah, everybody.
Starting point is 01:29:11 You're in there with brine and shit. You're like, hey. Oh, shit, I'm sorry. This way. Can't stand under the light, bowl. Give me in my fucking towel. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. You got a ass, a nigga. My shit running? My shit in the Olympics yet? Yo, dog, is my shit in the Olympics? That's true.
Starting point is 01:29:29 That's true. Now, now, if you party too hard, you look like a bitch that's crying and a mask air than ran. Except for your shit coming all day. down here like dog let it go man let that shit go man for real I like my grays I wouldn't ever know we ain't talk about your grays
Starting point is 01:29:45 but that the niggas is Beijing and they grays oh that's what they do that shit full too yeah no you got dudes that don't got grays and be Beijing and that's the thing those are the niggas that they can't get it right but broke your hair looks stiff as shit it looked bad then they got the Beijing gun
Starting point is 01:30:01 that spray the they spray the whole hair with that joint And then they get the blade out. And lie your shit right up, Cuss. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Shit crazy, man. Y'all don't know about them struggles
Starting point is 01:30:15 because y'all don't have facial here. No, because I ain't know. Because I ain't trying to hold on. I ain't no nigga no throwback Thursday. Why aren't we in face you here? Like, you're still in that, like, the jail look? No, it's just that. That shit irritating.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I don't like it. They come in. For real? Yeah, that shit, irritate. How do you get rid of this? Jay, my razor. How do you get that? That nigga like that when you said that.
Starting point is 01:30:36 No, a razor. I raised her. Like, you want to slid a nigger throw the fuck's going on. A couple times. A couple times. I raise him. The jail was going.
Starting point is 01:30:45 What the fuck's wrong? What you mean? What you mean? You want some other shit. For real. Oh, man. You was on some take some ass just next. I raised her.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I wasn't all that shit, man. Yeah, y'all are great. Yeah, we appreciate you. I appreciate you coming, man. This was great. great thank you all i know y'all not used to sitting there this long like gilly said yeah if this was if you had your Beijing in there you would have sweated this shit out what oh my facts she would have been dripping down this all old dennis robin head that shit would have
Starting point is 01:31:18 been black no it would have been black afro right before we get out of here let me just do this ad this episode of million dollars worth a game is brought to you by mootufocas motherfuckers will provide you with some louisvitin hats right off canals glasses glasses glasses Watch us Look at it Came in with a fucking love a hat on It's 92 degrees outside That's when you know you think you cute
Starting point is 01:31:42 Just stop raining It's not lying out Yeah, it's not lying out of it It's weird cute man It's a storm, niggas You know what I think he cute man I did I got dressed me off I'd be seeing you be seeing you on your Instagram
Starting point is 01:31:53 too What do you mean? With all these fucking expensive fits on This nigga pulled up to the studio You know we're getting too old for that shit right Well, motherfucker I'd be saying you You'd be having $4,000 fits $4,000 fits on me
Starting point is 01:32:04 You'll be seeing you and your inexpensive fit. Yeah. I respect it. Saving. That's one way to do. I ain't got to save, niggas. Fuck you talk about, Nick. That was a shot.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I threw motherfucking ones in the fireplace in a wintertime, nigga to keep the house man. You, black podcasters don't have to be like this with each other, man. Stop. What I wish I said is. This nigga pulled up in an SUV. I mean, he ain't on one side. He had a fucking, a pedicurist, this little aging lady in the car doing his feet.
Starting point is 01:32:34 What type of shit is that? I never thought about that, but that was wild. This was a smooth ride down here, Paul. I got to take this ride more off. Hey, I'm too, man. You want to come kick it with you. I know you drink some boo? You both drink two 11s.
Starting point is 01:32:48 You're 42? Forty-three. You know you want to come kicking with your fucking old head, man. You know, both drink. I'm shocked because he was only, do you 30-9? Nick, I'm 47, nigga. You fucking tell me. Oh, you're with a beardier page is right.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Yeah, I'm 47, nigga. You know, you believe that shit? You my fucking young boy. I said, God damn. You're my fucking young boy, nigga. The fuck out of it. You my fucking young boy, nigga. Come down and drink some beers again because you both of you are drinking.
Starting point is 01:33:11 You see this? You know what this is, right? Yeah. There's a wing. It's a wing, nigga. I'm put you up on there, nigga. You're going to need it. You're going to be my fucking young boy.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Both of you are my fucking young boy. You're my young boy too, John. I'm not, none in. I might put both you all down. You're my young girl. You're not. You're not. You're not.
Starting point is 01:33:28 You're not for real. You're not. You're going to get you a new deal, Neff. From me on out, that's what I'm calling. Yeah. I'm appreciate you. You said you 40. You said you're going to breach it.
Starting point is 01:33:37 You said you 40. He's going to burn. 42. Nick, I'm five years and we wouldn't even have been in high school together, nigga. Fuck wrong with you, nigga. You young ass, nigga. Matter of fact. He 50 for real.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Hold on, man. This nigga's old. Oh, you better not be publicized in your age if you're old like that. Fuck you, the window is going to get smaller. Matter of fact, nigga. He's still caring. Can you? He's still carrying.
Starting point is 01:34:01 What I got. Good thumb, right. Come on, come on. Come on, let's do it. You got to get a money clip. Yeah, that's old school. Right. Old school.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Is these off whites at Cherry Hill Mall, right? Me and Wallow wear ten and a half. You want the white ones. You get the white ones. I'm getting the black ones. I'm already tell him. Call him, tell you on your way there, get yourself something. I'm going to robbed you too old.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Hey, it was bad. You want to rob. this shit. You wouldn't have been a track store. You would have been in New Jersey Olympics. You would have been a gold medalist of New Jersey, a hundred meter day. Did you imagine. Huh? Dude, why don't get him?
Starting point is 01:34:45 Hey! You're a dog! Police! Who, woo, whoa! Get you a man to Joe Robin, man. Hey, luckily for us, I love Joe. Everybody is doing great. Y'all think this is crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Everybody is doing amazing. These things are, you're fucking my shirt up. Oh my God. Fuck my fit up. man. Thank y'all. I'm going to touch my shit, man. Y'all two niggas...
Starting point is 01:35:05 You know, I keep a major joke trying to... Y'all think it's crazy, man. Y'all two niggas is fucking nuts. But no, for real, for real. In the podcast game, you and Gil may be the two nutter-ass niggas. The two nuttiest nutter-ass niggas. It's only him left doing it.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I stopped. I stopped. Charlemagne's not. Everybody stop. It's only him and act when he get drunk. You him and act. It's act when he get drunk and gill it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:35:31 first of all i don't do not all that all that exhausting energy shit you disrespect everybody ever since your man you're gonna stop since your man you smoke hookah with your man bitch stop stop being messy you being messy you being messy shout out to all the hookah smokers out he was hurt though wasn't he no that was a old clip he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't hurt though no anything on camera is content you smoke with my bitch for nine years He was not hurt. He was not hurt. Right, right!

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